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April 10, 2014 - Jim Bakker Show
08:45
Michael Maloof EMP Expert
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Michael Malouf On EMP Threat 00:02:27
This is an amazing program.
I read a book last week, and it so shook me that I said, wow, I sure wish I could get Michael Melouf, if I'm saying it right.
Malouf Malouf on the show.
It'll take me a month, but we're going to be old friends.
Michael, thank you.
This is one of the most distinguished gentlemen I think we've ever had on the program.
Michael is probably the foremost authority I know on the EMP bomb.
And it's not a joke.
It's not something that old guys talk about.
It's one of the biggest threats to America, and he's going to talk about it on today's program.
This is his new book.
And he's not only an expert in all these fields, but in government, but he is an expert, Laurie.
You're going to love this man.
Because she's a prepper, I guess you'd call Lori.
She's the original prepper.
Michael is not like that.
He has given advice that I absolutely have never heard before.
And it makes so much sense.
Nation Forsaken is one I came up with simply because I felt the federal government, who knows about the impact of EMP, has known about it for years, but has done nothing about it.
And it's really putting people at the individual level to fend for themselves.
The federal government has known about EMP.
I knew about EMP when I was in the federal government working in the Defense Department.
My job at that time was to halt the diversion of high technologies.
And we saw, we knew what an EMP was from the effects of the detonation of a nuclear weapon.
And we saw how countries were acquiring the technologies, not only for their delivery systems or their missiles, but to make nuclear weapons.
And if they have the delivery system and they have the nuclear weapon, you become a threat.
And we see that today with North Korea.
EMP Pulse Disruption 00:06:33
The North Koreans have successfully tested a low-kiloton weapon.
We believe that it's to develop what we would call a super EMP bomb, which is less destructive but emits more gamma rays.
Gamma rays is a form of electromagnetic energy.
Now, but you say less destructive.
It's really more destructive in a way.
It just doesn't destroy buildings.
It doesn't destroy buildings, that's correct.
It doesn't destroy anything.
It doesn't kill people.
It turns everything off.
It turns it off.
Turns it off.
Things that are not protected.
How does it turn it off?
It attacks, it overwhelms when that pulse.
It creates, it accelerates highly charged particles that just overwhelms your electronics that are not protected through hardening.
And we have the capability.
We have the technology.
A little more expensive, but it can be done.
It only costs about $2 billion to do.
But the government could fix the grid if we had somebody who would say, let's fix this.
That grid is antiquated.
Parts of it are very old, aren't they?
They're not only old, but we're putting more and more demands on the grid by increasing the technologies, by putting greater demands on the existing grid.
So if a squirrel in Ohio can knock out a main power line and turn off the electricity on the East Coast, something like that.
That happened, people.
Yeah, it did.
Remember that?
New York all up through there?
Yeah.
When millions were without power for, what, 24 hours?
Two days?
Yeah, at least two days.
And people were freaking out then.
And you can imagine what this would be like if electricity is out for months or even years.
So as an expert and as a person who studies it, what part of America would die and why if an ENP bomb exploded?
If it was an EMP bomb, it would be catastrophic.
It would, depending upon the altitude, could affect all of the continental United States.
It would be, and even if we had a direct hit from the sun.
from a flare from the sun.
The sun can do the same thing.
Yeah.
NASA estimates that if we had a direct hit, and we're going into what we call the solar maximum period right now, where the sun's at its most intense, if we had a direct hit from one of those flares,
some of which are 14 to 20 times the size of the Earth, if we are hit with one of those directly, the estimate by NASA and the National Academy of Sciences is that it would cost upwards of $2 trillion in the first year.
It could probably take out about 90% of the U.S. population because of death and starvation.
And it would take four to ten years to recover if ever.
Your urban centers basically would be wiped out simply because it relies so much on a technological base to survive.
And if you take out the electrical grid, it affects all the other life-saving, critical infrastructures on which our technological society depends.
Your telecommunications, your automated control systems that do your stoplights, your pumping of your gas, your oil, your water and food deliveries would be stopped.
A grocery store in an urban center maybe has approximately three days of supply.
But it's worse.
Life stopped.
You said in a headline, I think one of you wrote, I said a minute ago, 90% could die.
Yeah, 90%.
Is that right?
Did you write that?
Yes.
Yeah.
Wow.
I'm glad to hear.
Can I shake your head?
I've been quoting his headline in his hand.
This is the man who wrote the story.
But you know what you're talking about.
You have lived it.
That's why I brought you here.
I called you on the phone like three days ago.
He says, I'm getting in an airplane and I'm coming right away.
People in the rural areas, you asked what would be the impact on a community such as this.
It'll probably be less severe than it would be in the urban center simply because people know how to hunt.
They grow their vegetables.
That's right.
You can't grow vegetables in the urban center.
That's right.
And so you'll have...
Have you ever seen martial law in any country?
You know what martial law is.
Could you explain it to these people?
Because they just think some nice guy is going to perhaps take over and he could.
It would be nice.
But it's not guaranteed.
They have like a dictatorship, right?
It's not only a dictatorship.
You could be shot on site if you break curfews.
There's no habeas corpus.
All of your rights are suspended.
It's not a pleasant thing.
And they can put you away indefinitely without charges.
Well, the public will be, it's just going to be chaotic.
You will have the gangs forming.
You will have you never know when you're going to be attacked.
You can have all kinds of awareness, but if you have no fundamental law and order and basic civility, it's complete chaos.
And I think that this is what we're trying to prevent.
Even under the best case scenario, if we can mitigate with the EMP, mitigate an EMP through taking the necessary precautions, you're still going to have some dislocation and some inconvenience.
But if you are able to take care of the more critical infrastructures, it lessens that possibility.
You'll have emergencies, but you won't have the geographically widespread chaos.
And that's a best case scenario.
Yes.
We don't have that.
No, we do not have that.
We haven't done that.
Nope.
And if you'll read these two books and listen to some of this audio and video, you will get a this is probably the most complete picture you can receive of what we're facing.
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