Jason Bermas and Todd McGreevy investigate coordinated aircraft spraying over the Midwest, identifying it as geoengineering rather than natural weather. They reference Operation Popeye, Ben Livingston's alleged weaponized weather control, and visible evidence like black planes, contrasting these claims with skeptical reactions from locals. The discussion highlights legislative efforts via House File 2640 in Iowa, introduced by Congressman Jeff Shipley to ban contaminants, which stalled due to industry lobbying. Ultimately, the episode suggests that despite political hurdles and unfunded mandate concerns, local grand juries may soon investigate alleged violations of citizens' property rights against powerful cloud seeding interests. [Automatically generated summary]
And I know that I have not been live streaming a bunch, but we are in full documentary film mode on top of another project on top of trying to go live and keep up with this insane conflict with Iran.
But if you haven't noticed what's gotten under my skin, and it's really under my skin from being over my skin and me not being able to do anything about it, is my local skies.
Now, this is an issue I've obviously covered now for decades.
And I think it goes even beyond geoengineering into the fact that none of us have consented to whatever is going on in the skies that I can see with my own eyes.
And I am constantly told nothing but Johnny nonsense.
And when I post these things, for instance, I get these cool blue check mark people.
Okay.
These people, they're not my friends.
I don't know who they are.
I don't follow them.
I'm not interested in them.
They'll have like a one-liner, oh, weird take, or whatever you can do for clicks.
I'm like, who are you?
And why are you posting here?
There's always some kind of Johnny nonsense that comes along with you trying to expose a clear team of small aircraft on a coordinated mission in the skies and commercial travel.
Now, I am not alone in my frustration.
I know there are many of you out there, but one person in particular who is very aware of this and has made it an issue here in Iowa as it gets worse and worse, as we're going to show you, is Todd McGreevy of the River City Reader.
rcreader.com is where you can find him.
Todd, thank you so much for joining me.
And look, we're barely into spring.
It's not like this stops all year.
I see it all year long.
All right.
They always tell me it's certain weather conditions.
Today, as I'm going to demonstrate in one of the videos, there are not only teams of aircraft spraying the prolonged jet contrails that we see go into cross patterns and out in the skies, but they're always with these teams of planes in the same altitude or close to that have normal contrails behind them.
Clearly represented in the sky, there is a clear difference.
And yet, you know, I'm not going to try to put him on the spot here, but I ran into Botsko.
Oh, oh, good.
Ran into Botsco.
Talented dentist and I.
Well, by the way, go on.
Ran to Botsco at Walmart the day of the whiteout.
And I said something to him, and he didn't buy it.
And I'm like, and he starts talking about, well, there, and you know, one of the videos, I literally have a commercial aircraft flying over my house that's black, doesn't look anything like these things.
It's like, well, they're at different altitudes.
I'm like, I understand that, but that's going to be up at those altitudes.
It's not going to be spraying anything and it's going to be black, unlike these white planes that are spraying.
Then he'll say, he said something, well, are they putting it in the jet fuel?
And look, I understand those patents are out there.
What we are witnessing are literal aircraft with blowers and containers.
Okay.
100%.
And you can't tell me otherwise because I have eyes to see.
Like, they're on all day missions.
I wake up, it's blue skies.
It's the way nature intended for the vitamin D to hit my skin.
And then I'm driving to get my coffee at, you know, 7:30 or 8 in the morning.
And I already see a team of airplanes when I'm in my car today.
And I know I'm on a long rant, barely introduced Todd here.
Not at all.
No, keep going.
Please.
When I can take my phone at a stoplight and capture four of the eight airplanes in a team now spraying my skies in a 12-second period, obviously something's going on.
So, so, Todd, I'd like you to take it from here for a moment.
And as you do that, what I'm going to do is I'm going to play your video from the day of the great whiteout.
A lot of people saw my morning video.
This one begins about mid-afternoon, I would imagine, right?
Probably somewhere in the 12 to 2 range.
12 to 1 o'clock.
I was driving downtown and I pulled over.
And just a little quick sidebar: I pull over to film this sky because it was so amazing.
My phone's ringing.
It's Dr. Hartsuch calling me.
I call him back after I film him.
Have you seen the skies?
Yes, David.
I was just filming them.
Carry on.
Yeah.
No, no.
Take it away because we're going to go to this video.
March 20th.
So everybody can see it.
And I'm going to Bettendorf, Iowa.
This is not normal.
This is ridiculous.
This is out of effing control.
If you want to keep your head in the sand and act like nothing to see here, you are a derelict and you are violating your oath of office, Iowa legislators.
Wake up.
Don't be ridiculous.
All right.
It's Friday, March 20th.
We'll have at 2 o'clock in the afternoon, downtown Davenport here.
And the geoengineering is off the chain.
I'm taking this video to hopefully some legislators in Iowa who are in the Senate Judiciary Committee who are holding up the HF2640, I think it is.
I'll put it in the show notes and link to it.
A bill to ban geoengineering and spraying contaminants in our skies.
It's being held up.
It came out of the subcommittee yesterday, subcommittee for judiciary, but being told by Jeff Shipley that now it's being stalled because the cloud seating industry is raising their brow about it, even though cloud seating is not in the bill anywhere.
But contaminants are.
So the cloud seeders, if they're concerned that it's too broad and it covers them, then they're admitting that what they spray is contaminants.
This is not natural, legislators.
If you think this is natural, I've had four calls today from people from two different states nearby that it's out of hand today.
So it's like spring is sprung, spring equinox, and let's really spray the hell out of the people now because they're all going to be outside enjoying themselves.
Do the right thing, guys, gals, uphold your oath of office and end this nonsense now.
And it's still Friday, March 20th, a couple hours later, downtown Davenport.
And here's what the result is of the geoengineering contaminant, particulate spraying of the citizens of the quad cities.
Just a big haze over everything.
It's not clouds.
It's a haze from all the spring they've been doing as far as South Galesburg.
Somebody called today.
Somebody called me from Rock Island this morning.
So it's worse than they've ever seen.
It's all over the Midwest.
Happy spring.
You know, I like this on purple haze, but I don't like this purple haze whatsoever.
Yeah, that's the sunset that night.
I mean, the chemicals make for beautiful skies at the end of the day.
Let's just stop for a second because I mean, it was if you don't see what that was, and just so everybody knows that bridge, that's the Mississippi River.
So, you don't live in Iowa, you don't live in Illinois, you might live somewhere in the Midwest or the South that shares that river.
All right, and it is directly over that river.
You know, it's no wonder that Iowa has so many damn PFAs in the water.
You can blame it.
You have the highest cancer rates in America.
Yeah, listen, I have family here.
You know, you know that I keep the politics away from the kids quite a bit.
But when we're in the car, it's the only thing I can say.
I mean, even when it was whited out, if you looked close enough, Todd, and if I had taken like contrast to it, you could still see the lines that had widened out.
Nothing about that was natural.
Nothing about that was a natural condensation trail from regular air traffic.
And I got to see these jackasses continuously.
You know, I saw this one when I was looking up articles.
Hey, chemtrail conspiracy theorists.
Answer me these 20 questions and gain legitimacy.
I'd love to debate this guy because he loves a good conspiracy theory.
Well, you know what I don't love?
Being poisoned on a regular basis.
So this jackass making less than $80,000 a year, very unhappy with his life, can goof on me via USA Today.
I just, it drives me wild.
We're going to play some clips from today.
And I'll kind of just point out as we do it what we're looking at here.
But again, these are, these are, I don't even think I was outside of my car on these ones.
I think I was just driving and so upset.
I remember I texted you, Todd.
So right there, you can see one, right?
Let's pause it.
Right here, we have these two lines right here.
Those are two planes.
Just two planes.
We're two seconds in.
Okay.
Then over here, we got a third plane.
I go back to these two.
So just while driving in the first 10 seconds, we got three visible planes.
Three.
No big deal.
Next video.
Okay, there's one.
We're going to see.
You can obviously see the one line in the middle that I'll zoom in on.
Okay, so there's one plane.
Go over to the side.
You can obviously see the dark line plane right here over to the left.
Oh, there's another plane.
Sorry, there's three I just got.
So there's three right there.
And then I think maybe I go to the right for a fourth plane.
Don't worry.
We've got more folks.
So again, just driving down, you can see they're obviously spraying.
Here's one plane.
I think I'm out of my car for this one.
Let's see.
We'll zoom in on yet another plane over here.
But I mean, again, there's the other plane.
You're telling me that this isn't geoengineering, that it's not happening.
And look, that one right there, that's my point.
Take a look.
Let's pause it.
So this is a plane at about the same altitude as the others that again is only spraying the regular con.
That's what a contrail traditionally looked like.
Not a bullet line down the max.
Okay.
And there's another one.
Again, traditional contrail, everybody.
I zoomed in on it so everybody could see.
This is the contrail that we were all used to.
Now, and you're looking at yet another prolonged one here, but they're always in teams together.
You just saw, again, another team of at least four airplanes from a parking lot right here in your face once again.
And, you know, we're not done.
We got plenty more, guys.
I hope I'm not boring you.
I heard you when you were on Deep in the Weeds last Friday with Aaron Dale at WQUDFM 107.7 Vintage Radio here in Erie, Illinois.
You talked about, I was in and out.
You said, God bless Alex Jones.
I think you're lauding his canary in the coal mine about this.
Well, because he also, you know, and as we keep watching this, guys, again, teams of airplanes right in front of us.
We'll pause and come back to me and my guest here.
He got the interview with Ben Livingston.
No one ever talks about that interview.
No, Ben Livingston.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ben Livingston is the godfather of weaponized warfare.
He was flying into hurricanes and knocking them out in the 60s, man.
Like he was doing cloud seating.
He was the guy that pioneered everything that DARPA did in Vietnam.
Like he had the goods.
Like Ben Le watch Alex Jones's.
You got to look it up.
Alex Jones, Ben Livingston.
I remember, I'm not sure if I was there at the time or I came there right after, but I was just super impressed, not only with the interview that Alex got, but the guy himself.
I mean, this was 60s technology, everybody.
What was he divulging?
What was he saying?
Broad picture.
If we want to stop a hurricane, we can do it.
And we do.
If we want to start a hurricane, we can do it.
And we do.
He's like, we control the weather, basically.
He's like, we were controlling the weather since the 60s just with planes.
Remember the black and white clip of LBJ talking about this?
Yes.
I mean, again, well, all that stuff that was going on in NOM, which was DARPA's playground, was based on what Livingston was doing.
And he was not only a pilot, but he was a scientist, too.
Yeah.
I mean, again.
Here's a quick anecdote for you.
A first-hand account from my wife's uncle, Bill Johnson from Rock Island, Illinois, was the first commercial, first private pilot for John Deere.
Here we are in the Quad Cities.
John Deere's international headquarters are here.
He taught pilots how to fly P-51s off the coast of the East Coast of America during World War II.
So he's an old guy, died in his 80s.
He was a pilot for four chairmen of Deere, flew him all across the world.
He said, and he's like a total straight arrow, Americana, doesn't want to believe in conspiracy theories, just doesn't want to upset the apple cart.
He's like, that's not natural.
That's not real.
This is different.
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Something's going on.
That's one of the litness tests we have in our family, Jason, is what Uncle Bill says, just FYI.
Talk about that because I went and I got an oil change yesterday.
Okay.
And I'm sitting there.
And, you know, anytime someone's talking to me, you know, I'll be a chatterbox if I'm if I'm.
You learn a lot.
You can learn some things.
So, you know, I'm talking to the guy.
You know, he's, I mean, I say younger, but he's 31.
And he's got a whole rap bit with, you know, how they try to sell you the extras while you get your oil changed.
So he's like, he's got a whole thing with it.
And so we're getting along great.
And he's like, oh, how's your day?
I'm like, it'd be great if they weren't spraying the skies everywhere.
Right.
And now, mind you, this is the local Valvoline where, again, you're outside all day.
Everything's outside, everybody.
It's a little office and it's a big garage that's open.
You've been there since eight in the morning.
And the other kid looked like maybe he was like 25.
And we are all, I could see the confused look on his face.
The one, not the one I was talking to necessarily.
By this time, it was pretty grayed out.
Talking, this was.
I had to pick the kids up at five, so this is like probably like four.
You're in deep haze.
Yeah, we were in a deep haze, but you could still see the lines and you could still see some of the things.
I'm like, you think that's natural?
And the one, the younger kids were like, Well, I bet you it is a bit cloudy.
No, he had glasses on, but I, even with glasses, you've been there all day.
You, you literally, I don't know how your brain cognitively does not watch planes spraying your sky, especially when you're outdoors all day.
I could understand if you were in a soulless company where you're in some kind of cubicle box and you don't even have a window aisle.
Maybe you're getting fooled, right?
And you, and you order DoorDash because you're that lazy for your lunch hour.
Okay.
That's a thing.
All that's a thing.
You're outside the entire day.
Don't look up.
You don't have to look up.
You just have to look straight.
Like, right, right.
Like, that's what I mean.
It kind of bought.
Now, the other guy I talked to for a little bit because he goes, so what are you talking about, man?
He goes, chemtrails.
I go, chemtrails don't exist other than the context of a conspiracy theory.
So I can't tell you that those are chemtrails, but I can tell you that plane right there has a contrail that is prolonged and then spreads out like a cloud.
And I'm like, I'm like, these are the semantics.
I go, they don't call it that.
They call it stratospheric injection.
They call it solar radiation management.
It's all a semantical word game to pat you on the head like a little monkey.
If you dare to question it for a minute, I'm done questioning it.
Todd, McGreevy, I think.
There's so many layers of subterfuge with people that want to put their head in the sand, people that want to promote it, people that deny it.
It goes all over the map.
I guess, should I tell the story about the motorcyclists I talked to?
Yeah, you can.
And by the way, Operation Popeye is one of the things that Mr. Livingston was a big part of, too.
So if you, I mean, you want historic mysteries, Ben Livingston is the dude, everybody.
People need to dig into Operation Popeye.
Was it Vietnam or China?
No, no, no, no.
I don't think it was China, man.
I think this is Vietnam.
Vietnam was all Vietnam was the playground.
So Operation Popeye is the Vietnam War.
Technological rain dance, all the cloud seating.
He's the guy.
McGreevy, tell your story of the bikers.
Oh, God.
So I go to a local pet and garden center, Tesla's Pet and Gardener in Dunt Norfolk to get some cat litter because I need to put it on my garage floor for some oil.
These three guys are sitting outside on their motorcycles in this parking lot, which is like, this is like, you know, you buy plants and animals at this place.
And these little 25 to 35 year old guys are there hanging out in the parking lot.
Kind of different.
I don't know whether they're there.
But anyway, on a winner, I said, hey, guys, quick man on the street question.
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And they kind of looked at me like, okay.
I said, I pointed to the sky where there's all this crosshatching going on.
I said, is that normal?
Do you guys think that's normal?
And the guy right in front of the closest to me, he's a young stocky guy, about 200 pounds, you know, five foot five.
He looks up, he goes, looks at me, he says, you know, grown-ass man like yourself does not need to be afraid of that.
I go, what?
I said, I'm just asking if you think that's normal or not.
He says, oh my God, he goes, this is fifth grade science.
I can explain this in two minutes.
I said, great.
I'd love to hear explanation what that is.
And he paused and looked at me and goes, you're a Trump voter, aren't you?
I was like, what?
Why are we, you went to TDS like in seven seconds?
Like, what was going on here?
And he just got more, you know, triggered.
And did you vote for him?
I didn't say, why are we talking about who I voted for?
What explain what's going on in the sky?
What is how is Trump saving us from the geoengineer?
Like the best we've got is Bobby Kennedy admitting it's real and then saying what's going on.
I'm a Trump, you know, acolyte, whatever.
And I will say this, Jason.
I've made note.
Last year, we had less of this shit going on in the skies.
I mean, I've watched it for years.
I'll say this: we've had less.
Listen, the other day it was just so bad.
It was so bad.
It's only less because they turned it up to like 15 the other day.
You know what I mean?
And you know, I've been seeing 11.
Yeah, I mean, I've been seeing this stuff for decades.
And it's just, it's frustrating to the point now where, where do I have to go?
Because I want to stand at a podium in front of a bunch of people who are going to treat me like a child and force them to watch this in front of a group of people that know what they're seeing.
Like, it's time.
Like, we need to get, we need to get this done.
Like, like, we got the Trump administration for like three years.
At least you can move the dial in the court of public opinion.
I don't even know if we get that if we get into a super hot war with Iran.
Like, like, we're in such a weird place right now where the entire news cycle is now based around that.
You notice it.
Even the Epstein stuff has kind of gone by the wayside.
And I understand it.
You know, global nuclear warfare isn't good for anybody.
But that's a whole, you know, I need to do a whole show on.
I mean, they're not even talking about Israel getting hit.
You see, Israel getting hit today?
No.
Dude, they're getting hit all over and they're just not telling anybody.
We are in a really weird spot.
So maybe, maybe now they're just ready to just turn everything up.
The AI data centers, we're taking your water, we're spraying your skies, we're jacking up your energy prices.
You're going to pay more for gas.
We're putting boots on the ground.
We're taking Cubitad.
MAGA baby.
Woo!
That's out of control, man.
So, FYI, here in Iowa, last year, a year ago, Congressman, State Congressman Jeff Shipley initiated a bill that was modeled after Florida's bill.
And Florida's semi-famous for creating a ban on geoengineering, correct?
I mean, I'm skeptical.
I'm, you know, the bill was passed and signed by the governor.
Yeah.
Whether or not it's effective is a different story.
Very true.
Very true.
Our mutual friend Pat Militant says, doesn't matter what you guys do in the state.
It's a federal program, right?
And I wish that, I mean, it might even be beyond a federal program and into a military program that's then outsourced to contractors.
You know what I mean?
To the credit of the Iowa legislative people, like Jeff Shipley.
Yes.
Last year didn't make it out of any committee, but I was at a hearing and the room was packed.
There were three subcommittee hearing members there.
Ken Crokin, who lives here in Davenport, was there.
Jeff Shipley wasn't on the committee, but he's presenting the bill to the Environmental Safety Committee.
And there were a hundred and I would say there's at least a hundred people in the room packed.
And you had a lot of mothers with their children complaining about respiratory problems, about their crops not growing, their home gardens not growing correctly, and just all kinds of issues, begging that state legislature do something.
And Ken Crokin, who I've known a long time very well, he's a Democrat.
He said out loud, and I'm paraphrasing.
I published this at the Riverse Reader, but he said, you can't prove that this is going on in terms of spraying us with chemicals.
But if it is, and if it's intended to combat climate change and continue research, then I'm for it because it could save me.
Me.
He didn't say save us.
He said me.
So that's the dynamic that we're dealing with in terms of syntax of just being able to put your head in the sand.
Like, well, you don't, you couldn't tell me who's flying the plane.
You couldn't tell me what the tail number was.
You couldn't tell me what the chemicals were.
So this, a cycle later, Jeff Shipley has worked hard to get the bill.
It's House File 2640, by the way, to include a compelling mandate to the Iowa publicly funded airports, of which we have like five, maybe seven, and compel them to monitor the equipment and the chemicals going onto the plane.
Like they're loading up the fuel with special stuff, you need to tell us.
And if you don't report it and we find out it's happening, you lose your funding.
Well, the Iowa Public Association, Iowa Association of Public Airports has a lobbyist in February this year.
His name's Jefferson Fink is his name.
He was on record on the lobbyist declarations at the website for the state against this bill.
Now, I just checked it today on the day after the hearing I was at last week, which we should talk about with Rainmaker and all that good stuff.
He's now undecided.
And I've been at two hearings now virtually on this stuff.
And the airport people are going, we can't do this.
We can't.
They don't say it out loud.
They're trying to say it's like an unfunded mandate.
You can't tell us to have to track all the, what's going on in these planes.
Well, I used to work for an airport for 20 years, someone advertising for me in the quad cities.
I know that what the under the wing and over-the-wing is about and who deals with stuff and what's going on.
And the public safety people and the people that are sworn peace officers out there, they can do it if they want.
Let me ask you this question, Mr. Airport Association lobbyist.
You can feel up my grandmother and her bra to make sure she doesn't have some kind of bomb.
And she's in a wheelchair and you can tell me to take off my shoes.
And we can only have so many ounces of toothpaste to get through your scanner to get on the plane, but you can't tell me what kind of, if there's any dangerous chemicals spraying out of their fuel exhaust on the plane.
You can't do both of those.
You can't walk and chew gum.
This is nonsense.
So I'm very frustrated about this, as you can imagine.
Believe me, man, I'm more pissed about this than anything else because it's literally everything.
It's in our face.
Well, it's not just our face.
I can't, I'm a grown man and I can't do anything about it.
I can't move somewhere because it's happening all over.
I can't not take a shower every day.
It's in my water supply.
I can't not breathe in the air.
I can't not.
I'm trying to be healthy.
You know, I get livestock.
I get my cow.
Guess what?
Soil it's eaten.
Like, I can't, I can't, I can't.
And I don't like feeling helpless.
The government ain't my frigging daddy.
It ain't my mammy.
And I'm sick of it acting like it is and us just accepting these things.
It's this might is right bullshit, God.
And I'm last year at that hearing, I said unequivocally to these to these legislators, I said, you guys have an oath of office to uphold the Bill of Rights.
And the Bill of Rights is a protect our property oath you took.
You're supposed to protect our property.
That's what you do.
Our rights are property driven.
My body's my property.
My house is my property.
My dogs are my property.
My land.
And if you're allowing the spraying to go on, you are in violation of your oath of office.
I did not consent to this experimentation.
And Ken's response to me in an email exchange was, I didn't use the word experimentation.
I used the word research.
I didn't.
It's the semantic research.
It's semantic.
It's SRM.
It's geoengineering.
It's cloud whitening.
It's cloud whitening.
It doesn't matter.
There wasn't a cloud there to begin with.
It's cloud whitening.
Listen, I don't know what we're going to do about it.
This is my frustration.
Like, I had a buddy reach out.
I had actually one of the guys I pledged with.
So we're talking, we don't talk a lot.
I don't even know if we have our phone numbers, but I probably, you know, I don't know if I've seen this kid since 2001.
Okay.
One of his buddies saw me on Alex Jones talking about the geoengineering.
And he wants to talk, you know, he's in New York.
He wants to talk to me about what he can do.
I'm like, I don't know, man.
I know I don't have time to talk to somebody for an hour and a half about how frustrated I am off there if it's not going to be productive.
I don't know what to do other than keep documenting it.
And we just got, you know what?
It's got to become like a thing like during COVID when parents got involved at their kids, you know, board meetings and that we've got to just start going to every damn meeting.
And maybe that's my next big organization thing in the quad cities is to just go demand.
And you know what?
My buddy actually, another buddy of mine, actually the last wedding I went to last year, he said, hey, man, you know, there's an app where you can see what planes are in the air.
And they're, and he goes, I, I do it all the time when they start spraying.
And then you start like tagging them.
And all of a sudden, the military planes transponders turn off.
He goes, it's a fun little trick.
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Oh, wow.
Yeah.
He's like, he's like, you should check it out.
So he sent me the app.
Maybe we need to start doing that every time it starts spraying.
We get on the thing, we check what transponders there are because it's absolutely visible.
And we just start presenting this evidence because again, I can only be talked down to for so long.
And it's not even just about me.
It really is about my family too.
You know, it's not just my nieces that are 15 and 16.
I got a niece that's one and a half now, Todd.
You know, she was in both strolls.
I forgot about that.
Yeah.
She's the third one on the team.
Yeah, man.
It's like, hey, I want the human race to flourish.
I want us to continue.
I wish I had better answers for everybody.
You know, I see the snarky people in my comments already, Todd.
Oh, you still vote in Burmese?
Oh, you voted for Trump Burmese.
I'm not perfect.
I'm working with the systems that we've got.
I'm trying to be damn pragmatic.
I don't know what else to do.
I can tell you what, it's not like you could just use force against a Black Project military program and have any success.
And, you know.
Well, I'll tell you this.
And you heard me say this before, and I know you're somewhat of a skeptic about my tactic, all right, regarding county grand juries.
If we can't get the Bill of Rights and the oath of office enforced by our state legislators and our governor and our law at that state level, then if you can access your local grand jury and you have five of seven people have a spine, and that's a long stretch.
I mean, there might be a 5% chance it even happens, all right?
But there's seven people right now who are sworn grand jurors for a year in Scott County.
And maybe five of those seven look at the sky like we do, Jason.
And maybe five to seven go, you know what, legislators, you didn't get this done.
We're gonna, we're gonna serve subpoenas.
We're gonna serve subpoenas on the airport where these planes.
And when the airport, you know, association tells the legislators we can't do it, guess what?
It's the most self-determinate action that can possibly happen for a civil society or a republic, a local republic to stand up.
And the good news is here in Scott County, Rock Island County, we have two sheriffs in writing who said they will serve subpoenas on behalf of a county grand jury that is investigating allegations of wrongdoing outside the purview of a county attorney.
That's huge.
It's not inside the system.
If five of seven people who've already been sworn in and Scalia himself wrote about this is the fourth branch of government, and nobody's refuted that.
There's white papers that say it's the most independent body there is.
Fine.
But guess what?
We don't know who they are for 10 years and who they were in Scott County.
Three years ago, during COVID, they shut it down that we can't know who they are.
That's a whole other story arc.
But you say, what can I do?
That is what we can do: empower a grand jury to investigate this stuff.
I would love it, but you know, unfortunately, I've only seen grand juries as of late been used to manipulate narratives and falsely indict people, and that's because those were driven by attorneys inside the system.
I get it, man.
It's just this damn system.
It's listen, we're living in Herman Kahn's wonder world in the madness.
But meanwhile, I think the nuance here is that we all listen to podcasts.
We've all watched, and Kathleen, my wife, who published the Riverse Reader for 30 plus years, and I talk about this all the time.
And that is a lot of podcasters just bitch.
Yeah, you can analyze stuff all day long.
Great.
You deconstructed the media.
You told how they should ask that question.
They lied here.
Oh, fine.
What are you doing to change something?
That's why your buddy called.
And you were frustrated because you didn't have an answer for him.
And I get it.
There's no simple answer.
But Jeff Shipley is trying to get an answer at Heist File 2640.
I'd like to talk about that real quickly because at the last week's way, it passed out of the House Environmental and Safety Committee.
Then it goes to the Senate Judiciary Committee.
There's a subcommittee, three people on that, four, I think.
And it was on last, it was on the 18th last week.
Myself, Diane Holst, former Scott County supervisor, and a gentleman named Gray Grayson Gee, G-E-E, were the only three quote citizens who were logged in to the virtual hearing.
And we had a chance to speak.
And by the way, I go to the record inside the Senate Judiciary Committee.
There's all the agendas and minutes and recordings of all the subcommittee meetings.
The 18th is conveniently skipped.
It's not in there.
So, all right, whatever.
So, Jeff speaks about how it's, you know, trying to do this in his pattern after Florida.
This gentleman named Graystone or Grayson, Grayson Gee speaks, very eloquent, very sounds very, you know, switched on.
And he explains how he's, he has a company called Rainmaker.
If you go to makerain.com, Jason, on the screen, we should look at this company.
You really should check it out while we're talking about this.
My audience is already in there about Ridd, the Rainmaker CEO.
Is this a 46-year-old?
First time I encountered this guy, first time I ever heard of him.
Okay.
Yeah.
Whatever.
So he speaks.
He says, Hey, this broad, this bill is too younger guy.
Yeah.
He's out of DARPA, according to my audience.
Okay, maybe.
I looked at his LinkedIn profile today.
I didn't see that, but I'm crazy.
I mean, he was definitely a intern in DC and he's been on public policy jobs for states.
And he's definitely a government wonk.
Okay.
Yeah.
DARPA.
I don't know.
But meanwhile, he made a fair point.
And I acknowledged it when I spoke.
He's like, he Shipley opened up saying this technology is not tested.
And this is the definition of this.
And this goes back to what Crokin said: hey, if it's research and it might stop climate change, I'm all for it because it might protect me.
That's untested technology.
You get into cloud seeding.
That's it's been around for 80 years.
We, we, we, it's, it's, it's tried and it's done.
And it's, it's, there's a whole silver dioxide.
It's all there.
And to his credit, he said, this Grayson guy, he said, it's, it's well tested.
And it, that's, that's wrong.
And this, this bill is too broad.
And we'll be, we will be precluded from doing business in Iowa.
Out in the West, they do their agribusiness out there needs rain.
We got Salt Lake Lake that's drying up.
We're doing stuff out there.
He's got a whole story about that.
Great.
And what he said, the key thing he said was, we're already heavily regulated.
And so Shipley spoke next and he threw down a gauntlet, which I surprised the hell out of me.
I didn't, he said, was your firm Rainmaker involved in the state of Texas when that flash flood happened and those two girls died?
It was kind of a gotcha moment, right?
And this, I can't remember exactly what he said, but he recovered fairly well.
He said, no, we weren't in this, this, this.
Jeff came back at him and said, were you in the vicinity of the flood with your drones doing cloud seeding?
And he said, well, if you consider 250 miles in the vicinity, yeah, we were near there.
All right.
And so, and then another state legislator who was on the call, he wasn't in the room.
He was on the committee, Isaac, I think is his name.
He said, I need to point out, you know, everybody, that every meteorologist in Texas has signed off that the cloud seeding companies had nothing to do with that flash flood in Texas.
So I laugh when I hear about meteorologists, but okay, fine, check the box.
This is a, you know, a gotcha moment that didn't work out too well.
All right.
And I said, hey, wait a second, guys.
Why worry about Grayson if it's already regulated?
We're talking about geoengineering.
We're talking about chemicals.
We're talking about strontium and aluminum.
And that's just making rain.
It's a different discussion.
And he's giving me thumbs up on the Zoom thing.
But when you go to the legislation, Jason, this is key.
You go to legislation.
It says this section shall not apply to the aerial application of a fertilizer, pesticide, herbicide, fungicide, or any agricultural input by a licensed applicator person acting under the authority of federal or state law, provided such substance applied is accordance with all applicable regulated and is not intended designed for the express purpose of affecting temperature, weather, climate, or intensity of sunlight.
So he said he had published a white paper submitted it the day before the hearing, this guy, Grayson from Rainmaker, and it was worth checking out.
And he says, hey, we're already governed by the 1972 Act of something.
I apologize.
You should be more prepared.
He cited an Act 1972 that they're governed by.
So the hair splitting didn't get to happen in this committee.
I feel bad because I should have been more prepared.
The hair splitting is he's already governed.
He should be exempt from this bill, right?
And then it says, not intended to design the express purpose of affecting temperature, weather, climate.
So temperature is a pretty finite thing that you can measure.
Climate, what the hell is that?
Weather.
I guess you could consider rain inside weather, right?
So maybe that's where his hook is like, hey, rain's inside one of the definitions.
But there was no discussion of this, no exemption of this.
Listen, Todd, this is what I mean, though.
You know, you just mentioned herbicides and all these things.
I got to ride around the quad cities and listen to advertisements for glyphosate and lobbying saying that it's going to hurt farmers if we don't use Roundup, even though we've had people win massive lawsuits of tens of millions of dollars for it causing cancer.
Listen, man, the show is making sense of the madness, and the madness only makes sense if they're trying to poison and kill us.
I hate to tell everybody.
We got to wrap this one up, Mr. McGreevy.
Let everybody know where they can check you out.
rcreader.com is the website.
Give us the pitch, my friend.
Well, River Cities Reader, rsuiter.com.
We started publishing in 1993.
We're an independent magazine, newspaper, online, updated every day.
If you keep scrolling down, keep going a little bit further.
You see on the right side there, there's links to like topics, including 9-11, some articles you've written with us, Jason, right there, COVID topics.
It's, and there's a whole, if you go to, if you go to rsuiter.com/slash tags/slash geoengineering, you'll see stuff we've covered as well about geoengineering.
All right, my friend.
And by the way, I tried to get Grayson on the show tonight.