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Hey, everybody, Jason Burmes here, and we are going to get deep in the weeds on the Epstein files, UFO, an alien disclosure.
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It is time to go deep in the weeds with Jason Burmese, brought you by River City's reader.
Jason is a documentary filmmaker.
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He's a wicked smart guy, and I've really been looking forward to today.
So let's welcome in now, Mr. Jason Burmes.
What's going on, man?
How are you doing, sir?
Thank you so much for having me.
Yeah, of course.
See anything interesting in the news this week, Jason?
So obviously, just yesterday, we had a huge arrest via the Epstein case.
And arrest, quite frankly, I never thought was going to come.
I don't think that there's going to be a proper investigation/slash prosecution and then imprisonment of Andrew.
But kind of as I've talked about in the files before, you know, Andrew, as bad as he does look, like hovering over what appears to be an unconscious girl, woman, we don't really know.
Their face is blacked out, right?
You know, as far as the eugenics stuff, at least he's like, maybe we shouldn't grow clones of ourselves to harvest their organs.
Okay.
So we've got that end of Andrew.
The deposition of Leslie Wexner occurred yesterday and then was promptly put online.
It's about four plus hours long, and I've only gotten through maybe the first 40 minutes of it.
I think, you know, the weekend is here.
We may do a watch-along with all four hours over a few videos.
In fact, that really does appear to be where we're going to go with this.
When you just watch the first five minutes, the guy can't believe he's there.
I mean, his face looks so uncomfortable.
He's got the uncomfortable laughter.
He's literally biting his tongue.
He's got a slew of lawyers there.
It's not just the one lawyer that if you've seen, have you seen what the lawyer whispered in his ear?
No, I have not.
And remind everybody who he is, just so listeners know what we're talking about here.
So for those unaware of who Leslie Wexner is, he is the co-conspirator that was named in the Epstein files and then promptly protected.
Massey, when he had that showdown with Bondi last week, specifically mentioned Leslie Wexner because Wexner is the head of L-brands, Victoria's Secret Modeling, etc.
But really, outside of just the modeling arena, somebody who is deep into the geopolitical arena, part of the mega group, Wexner Foundation, very much involved in Middle Eastern politics, very, very pro-Israeli.
And aside from this business relationship with Epstein, where now Wexner claims like he was totally ignorant and Epstein, you know, ripped him off for hundreds of millions of dollars, all this Johnny nonsense.
Wexner is the one that essentially gave Jeffrey Epstein that New York Mansion residence.
He sold it to him in public records for $10.
Okay.
He is extremely involved in the financing and the connections that we just discussed that go beyond the United States and beyond the modeling industry.
So he's finally being deposed.
And by the way, shame on the Republicans.
As far as I understand it, not one Republican showed up for this.
I think it was at his private residence.
But about almost, I think it's four and a half, four hours and 45 minutes.
Somewhere in that fourth hour, and I have not seen what he said beforehand.
People are telling me I need to watch what he said beforehand.
But his lawyer leans in and even C-SPAN posted this.
And he goes, If you give another effing answer that is more than five words, I'm going to effing kill you.
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
Am I paying you $3,400 an hour?
What do you get for attorney two?
That's the lawyer saying that.
That's the lawyer saying that to Wexner.
Yeah, exactly.
He's saying, shut it.
Yeah.
Hey, shut up.
He's old.
What's the Wickner?
Old.
83?
Something like that?
83.
Wow.
And he's a Midwest guy.
You know, he resides out in Columbus, Ohio.
Yeah.
Look, that's a I'm shocked we're getting this far.
And again, I don't expect Wexner to be arrested, indicted.
He's already skirted so many court cases, including civil cases.
You know, he tries to come off as just like this ignorant old man.
He can't believe he winks at his lawyers before it starts.
Like so far, me just watching the first 10 minutes.
And like I said, I got about a half hour, 45 minutes into it.
I honestly, Aaron, I kept being taken aback.
I was like, I cannot believe this is actually happening.
And do I think we're going to get the kind of accountability we need?
No.
But I'll be very honest with you.
I don't have great expectations of any of these things actually happening.
So when they do, you know, I get excited.
Maybe I get a little too overexcited, but that excitement was cut short when within hours of that deposition and that interaction with the lawyer, I was told by President Trump via a Truth Social post that we're finally going to give up the UFO and alien files.
And I just thought to myself, you know, I'd seen the memes.
I mean, people have really been joking about it hard, especially since Massey going in the paint on the Epstein files, getting the act passed that the DOJ actually had to have some transparency and put them out.
So many people out there.
And I thought it was kind of just tongue-in-cheek.
They're going to release the alien files.
You watch.
It's going to be a distress.
And they did it.
They're going to do it.
You know, I watched that last disclosure documentary.
I think you can still buy it on Amazon.
It's trash.
All of it's trash.
If anybody out there believes that they are going to essentially not only disclose aliens, but technologies that have been utilized in covert operations and warfare, quite frankly, since the World War II era, you're out of your mind.
You're out of your mind.
That is not going to happen.
In fact, you know, we talked about the Venezuela raid, and we were kind of one of the first to do it before President Trump had acknowledged that indeed they did use weapon systems in which they were able to shut down the other military immediately.
He's like, we didn't lose any equipment and we didn't lose any people.
And it's classified.
Yeah, they did say some pilots caught some bullets in the leg, so they were shooting up at the planes, but nobody, nobody died.
Yeah.
Well, again, that's the one thing that you can't jam up, right?
Is a traditional gun.
And, you know, he's out there and he's talking about it and he's saying, you know, I can't say much more.
It's classified.
This is classified.
This is technology that we've had for quite a while that is now starting to be rolled out into the public arena for us to see.
I assure you, we have not seen 95 to 99% of it.
And when we're talking about propulsion systems, when we're talking about the arena of being able to have a leg up in the air or in the sea, do you really believe we're just going to tell everybody about it?
Even if you believe it's aliens, which I do not, I think that the aliens is the cover story.
You know, you had the Barack star out there this week on a podcast, kind of smiling and joking.
You know, the aliens are real.
It's the first thing I asked: where are the aliens?
But they're not at Area 51 and they're not in an underground bunker and base.
I'm going to tell people, I am extremely skeptical of any type of quote-unquote alien, whether it be a gray or one of the other multitude of variations that we heard about over the years.
Obviously, the grays had been popularized through folklore lore.
And this isn't just me coming at it as like some super skeptic from a geopolitical arena.
I've been studying this stuff literally since I was 10 years old.
I can still, I still remember my first UFO conversation with an adult.
It was with my mom's boyfriend at the time.
You know, I was probably like nine or 10 years old.
And somehow UFOs came up and I said, oh, that's all fake and blah, blah, blah.
And then all of a sudden he goes, no, no, no, UFOs are real and we've got pictures of them and all these other things.
And then my actual father ordered the Time Life series about these mysteries, Time Life Mysteries.
And the UFO one in particular fascinated me.
You know, I'm looking, this is the days, folks, where, you know, there are no computers.
There's no internet.
If you're going to find something on UFOs, it's going to be in a library and you're going to have to really go into obscure references just to get there.
Maybe they'll have one or two books.
So when I had the Time Life series, I was just enthralled.
As soon as the internet hit, Aaron, one of the very first things that I did is I went out and I downloaded a thing called the Majestic 12 documents or the MJ12 documents that I heard about via UFO lore and some of the documentaries and whatnot I had seen.
And remember, again, there were all these mainline documentaries like documentaries, anything but hoaxes, really, like the alien autopsy.
That's 100% fake, right?
And got people really talking.
It looked like a U.S. military base and there are the bodies and it looks a lot like the gray alien and all of it.
So I read the MJ12 documents.
They're pretty fascinating, although they seem to be inconsistent.
A lot of people have pointed to certain aspects that show they're a forgery.
There ended up being a second round of documents that came out.
I've read those.
And when push comes to shove, I mean, I've read McDonnell Douglas documents.
For those that don't know who McDonald Douglas is, it's one of the contractors, kind of like Lockheed Martin or Raytheon.
Yep.
Compelling first-hand accounts of this one pilot who flies into like this mega ship and has encounters with more of these like humanoid type aliens.
Again, not the grays.
There's Admiral Bird and his written account of going over the Arctic and essentially seeing woolly mammoths and landing and having encounters with these things as well.
We do have some weird historical aspects that point to something going on.
Let me say that first, and I'm not sure what it is.
I don't necessarily think that these things, if they exist, are from another planet or solar system.
For instance, a lot of the lore surrounding the grays or the aliens that are at the bases, et cetera, come from the Zeta reticula system.
And that was popularized via Bob Lazar when Lazar went in to do his work at Area 51 or the sub-base.
I think it was like S71 or S7.
He said that he read these briefings really quickly about these beings and this is where the craft was from.
And he thought that it was nonsense and he was being tested and on what he would believe and they were feeding him disinformation, et cetera.
And then they bring him to the craft.
I mean, that doesn't necessarily mean that they weren't feeding him disinformation.
And a lot of people will say, well, if he's telling the truth and they have these things and they're reverse engineering, what else could they be?
They could also be ancient technology from us.
You know, I think that a lot of people dismiss certain historical stories about humanity because they think they're part of folklore, Atlantis being one of them, right?
A lot of people talk about the Great Flood in the Bible, but it's actually in a lot of historical texts as well, such as the Epic of Gilgamesh.
So there's a great flood is absolutely real.
If you look in a geology book, and I only know this because I moved to Maui.
When I lived there, I found out that Maui, Lanai, Molokai, and Kaulawe were actually all one island at one time.
But about 12,000 years ago, somebody dropped a cinder block into the bathtub and caused the oceans to rise 150 feet.
And they all became separate islands with shallow channels.
But the ocean, the water, if you look in a geology book, that actually happened.
And that's why the Great Flood story is so prominent with every major religion because, you know, it happened.
Great Flood Debunked00:02:01
Now, if the library in Alexandria doesn't get burned down, maybe we know what happened, but we don't.
But, you know, and that was whatever year that happened.
I think it was in the BCs when the library at Alexandria, but that was like the ancient capital or the capital of the ancient world.
And they had, you know, the Pathyrus scroll type stuff back in the day from all over the world.
And everything for whatever reason was stored there.
And then it, you know, somebody lit a match and goodbye.
But, but no, great flood story, absolutely true.
I mean, some incarnation of it, but the water came up 150 feet.
I know that around 12,000 years ago.
Again, you know, historically, we can only know so much through science.
But when we talk about ice ages, when we talk about these catastrophes and these big moments, they seem to happen, you know, rather quickly, right?
You know, you talk about the being one island.
Well, it doesn't seem like gradually it became, you know, separate islands over a long period of time because of rising sea levels.
No, there seems to be an event.
So I think some of these technologies, for instance, I think it's the Cathera mechanism.
I may be mispronouncing it, but anybody can look that up.
And this is like, you know, something with gears and, you know, something that would be akin to, say, a tabulation system just prior to a modern computer that's thousands of years old and should not exist, right?
According to mainline history.
So, you know, as far as the technologies that may have been recovered, et cetera, that we don't have a beat on as modern humanity, I don't necessarily think that's not somewhere in our human past.
Now, as far as a lot of the technologies that were developed during World War II, I think that stuff, a lot of that is the actual, you know, technologies we're seeing now.
Compromised Technologies00:03:41
We know about the Nazis, for instance, and the Bell.
That's probably the most famous one.
But again, it took on a shape that was traditionally seen to be a quote-unquote UFO.
You had an enormous amount of foo fighters during that time period, these beings of light.
And a lot of people say, well, that was the aliens checking up on our war.
Is it?
Or is it more than likely our technologies that have been hidden from us?
The Horton brothers, who were working with the Nazis on a lot of these technologies, they were so sought after by the U.S. and Russians after the fact, because of what they had developed for the Nazis, that we put together something called Operation Harass.
And we actually found them.
And they came to the United States and worked on black projects for us here.
They had what is known as the flying wing.
Anybody can go look it up.
And in World War II, they had this boomerang-shaped aircraft.
Now, its first iterations were, of course, wooden.
But you take a look at that thing and you take a look at the modern-day stealth bomber.
And there's no doubt that its lineage comes from the Horton brothers.
So I, you know, a lot of the characters that have surrounded this UFO movement, very sketchy.
Greer in particular.
I don't trust Greer.
I never have trusted Greer.
He was hooked in with the Rockefellers.
You know, I watched the first major documentary that they put out probably like a decade ago or so now.
And it was, you know, basically just following Greer around and making him into some hero.
And it showed, you know, these events that he was getting people to come and summon UFOs.
Real grifter Johnny nonsense.
But it also became apparent to me, and a lot of people don't like it when I say this, but I say it because I believe it to be true.
And I guess, come and sue me.
It's pretty apparent to me in that movie that Greer is a compromised, closeted homosexual having an affair with his bodyguard.
His bodyguard's in it.
Anybody could watch it.
The way they look at each other, touch each other, interact with each other, it screams of it.
It screams of it.
And listen, I don't care what your sexual preference is.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
It doesn't really matter to me.
But when you do have a family and you are putting on a front, first of all, you're lying to everybody all the time, right?
So you're already kind of inherently a dishonest person.
But then if you really want to keep that secret, you're compromised.
You know, it's just like the Epstein situation where I kept telling people, well, there are a lot of ways to blackmail someone.
You don't necessarily have to have them with a video, you know, with a child or something like that.
It could be something, I don't know, like you're cheating on your wife with Russian bridge players and you're getting venereal diseases and you don't want your wife to know.
So, you know, you want to keep that under wraps.
I think that the world of UFOs is so muddied and so beyond what they're actually going to tell us.
I think Elizondo is totally terrible.
Almost all these whistle.
You know, I watched that latest movie, Marco Rubio's in it.
You got John Brennan, former CIA, pushing this garbage, James Woolsey pushing this garbage, another former CIA guy.
The Central Intelligence Agency hasn't been our friend to everybody.
Rolling Out Aliens?00:03:26
They haven't been the friend of the general populace.
So the idea that we're going to roll out the aliens now, look, we've been doing genetic manipulations underground in these bases for a very, very long time, human experimentation for a very, very long time.
And quite frankly, I don't think it would be that difficult to roll out some kind of biological being, dead or alive, and show it to the public.
And everybody goes, oh my God, that's an alien when it is literally just a man-made, and the thing might even believe it's an alien.
You know, I have no idea.
I'm not buying any of it.
And the fact that they've now decided to roll this out when corruption is being revealed on another level via the Epstein case should also be troubling to so many people.
Yeah.
Hey, look, kids, it's a good year of win.
Yeah, I'm with you.
You know, I definitely have some historical questions for the aliens.
Egyptians, but again, we lost whatever was going on in the ancient world in terms of technology because obviously we know some civilizations like the Romans, you know, had hot baths in 2000 BC and we didn't have running water here until like what the 20s or 30s or 40s or you know what I mean?
Like, so different civilizations were far ahead of others.
And obviously we still have civilizations that are, you know, running around hunting for food and surviving that way today in the world, which seems kind of crazy, but it's true.
So I don't know.
The Egyptian stuff has always been weird to me.
So like it's just so, it was so long ago that they built the pyramids, the Sphinx.
Well, Aaron, let me say this about that.
I don't know that it was the Egyptians that built this pyramid or the Sphinx, and neither do we.
You know, we were lied to for, first of all, let's get something out of the way.
Civilizations don't thrive in deserts.
Okay.
So at the time that the pyramids, you know, were prominent or whatever, they were not in a desert.
I need people to understand that.
The desertification thing, that's not a real thing.
Okay.
So that's numero uno.
Number two, okay.
You look at the erosion on the Great Sphinx itself, right?
That is, I mean, that shows you that it rained there.
That's water erosion.
You understand what I'm saying?
Or wind, right?
But wind could probably move.
I mean, it looks like water to me.
Like, if you cut off the head, that, and remember, we didn't, those things weren't just out in Egypt for years and years and years.
They got dug up at the turn of the century, late 1800s, early 1900s.
There's probably way more to be excavated at this point.
You know what I'm saying?
They say there is.
They've been using those sonar, the things that look into the ground, and they say there is probably more.
Absolutely.
So, you know, we don't even know that the Egyptians were the ones that actually built those pyramids.
They might have been a conquering people, come in hundreds, maybe even thousands of years after those were built and then piggybacked on it.
Royal Scandal Unraveled00:07:21
We really don't know.
It's not like we have a great eye.
And first of all, we all know the winners write history.
You and I, like if we were to go back to biblical times, do you speak Aramaic?
I don't.
I certainly wasn't part of that culture.
Exactly.
So look, I'm fascinated by human history.
And I'm fascinated not just by the Egyptians, but all of these different ancient civilizations.
I think we have a very, very large global misunderstanding of our origin story.
And unfortunately, because of that, we are rife for exploitation.
Yeah, I would agree with that.
I would agree with that.
And then who knows what they really do know about some things and they just don't want to tell us.
You know, obviously there's plenty of that floating around.
We are deep in the weeds of Jason Murvis brought to you by River Cities Reader kind of hurdling over the recent stuff out with President Trump saying he's going to release some classified files on aliens after former President Obama said on a podcast that aliens are real.
He just hasn't seen them.
Now, I want to get into some Epstein stuff, man, because the picture of Andrew laying down or like leaning back in the car with his face again, hey, happy birthday, Prince Andrew.
You're under arrest.
How do you think that went?
It's a good question.
You know, I feel like we've already had enough come out against the guy, and the royal family has been slow playing this with him, but definitely step by step, kind of stripping him of certain things, right?
He got stripped of his royal title.
He got kicked off the property.
They knew that it wasn't just Andrew that had this relationship with Epstein.
There's now actually a lot of evidence that Epstein was bankrolling his ex-wife, who he's always remained friendly with, Fernie.
Yes.
That also kind of expands on this relationship.
Obviously, the royal family would be privy to that.
I wonder what's in the next dump, right?
That they felt like they had to at least arrest him for quote-unquote, yes, for quote-unquote misconduct.
Now, don't get me wrong, there's plenty of the stuff that's already out there, but I would imagine they're trying to get out ahead of it just like they've gotten out ahead of everything else.
They will do some kind of a trial.
They'll probably convict him of something extremely small, and they may, they may even put him in jail for a short period of time and burn him in that sense.
I don't think that it gets to the level where, you know, all of a sudden he's found hanging in his cell either.
But who knows?
I mean, if he runs his mouth too much, just about everybody at every level, if you threaten the top of the pyramid and the power structure that is currently in place, they'll take you out.
So he's got to be really, really careful, in my opinion, maybe less careful than others.
But I would just put it this way.
You know, he's far from the first royal to be involved in the sexual scandals with underage girls or boys.
Lord Mountbatten, you know, the FBI knew that he was referred to as Lord Mountbottom and had a lust for young boys.
And if you don't think that the FBI used that as leverage for many years, of course they did.
If you look at Prince Charles, now King Charles, and his relationship to Jimmy Saville, there is probably not a larger ghoul in the sexual arena than Jimmy Saville.
I mean, this is a guy.
I'm not familiar with him.
Is he the one that put the hole in King Charles's sock?
Oh, my goodness.
You don't know about Seville?
No.
Well, I did, real quick.
I did see King Charles said they're going to let the law run its course with Prince Andrew very much, you know, standing against like, hey, he's going to get in a little trouble here.
And I think he should definitely be on not only Suicide Watch, but also air quote finger suicide watch.
So, you know, I know, I know that you like to bring things up on the computer when I mention him for the first time.
Why don't you just type in Jimmy Saville so you get a good hard look at who this guy is?
I'm 10 seconds ahead of you.
All right, because, all right, for those that don't know who Jimmy Saville is, Jimmy Saville was a huge celebrity and personality for the BBC, the British broadcasting company.
Now, for those kind of unfamiliar how things work over in the United Kingdom, all TV is like essentially free there.
BBC would definitely be in line with like our NBC or ABC.
There's not a lot, I mean, it doesn't get bigger than BBC, BBC Radio, BBC television, the whole nine.
And this guy was a huge celebrity on both.
He was out there doing quote-unquote charity work for children.
You can watch him with giant checks for foundations with Margaret Thatcher.
There were reports that Prince Charles actually wanted him to be the godson of one of his kids.
This guy had all access to the royal family.
He had access to not only children, but he also donated to things like hospice.
So this guy, by all accounts now, was a monster to children in ways that you're going to make you throw up in your mouth.
It said also elderly people.
Not only elderly people in hospice, like I just mentioned, but corpses.
It doesn't get any sicker, and you couldn't get any closer to the royal family without being in it.
Okay.
So look, like, again, when I think of Prince Andrew, I don't think he can even get to a tenth of the level of a monster like Seville.
And then this is one of the big problems I have with the royal family.
First of all, rule by bloodline is absolutely ridiculous and totally crazy in any society, let alone one that is taking place in 2026.
But when you see what these people have done and the people they have surrounded themselves with, it gets even worse, Aaron.
I believe that.
Just a quick stuff, what you're saying and what I'm reading here is: yeah, as a result of the scandal, he lost a lot of his honors, but it was basically decided that he had a knight.
They knighted him.
Yeah, he sir, Jimmy Seville, yes.
And at 28 different hospitals, it was concluded that he had sexually assaulted staff and patients aged between five and 75.
Yes.
Yes.
All right.
Cannibalism Scandals Revealed00:09:15
Well, now we know who he is.
Yes.
Yes.
So, you know, when that, I mean, and remember, he never paid for his crimes while he was alive.
If they can kind of whitewash that, they may be able to do so with Andrew.
The question is, are we going to get arrests in this country?
Because now people, the thing is that the memes out there, bro, you know, they're still trying to make it about Trump.
Even in this deposition with Leslie Wexner, there were certainly those political operatives.
That's the question again, Trump, Trump, Trump.
Trump's in the files this many times.
Trump, I've gone through the files.
There's nothing in there that suggests any criminal activity by Trump by any measure of the imagination that's credible.
I know a lot of people talk about that.
Yacht one.
Again, anybody could call into a tip line and say anything.
If anything, you know, the firsthand documentation shows that Jeffrey Epstein becomes aware that Trump is talking to Bradley Edwards, a lawyer for the victims and a lawyer for Virginia Guffray Roberts in particular.
And this email, I think, is from like 2011.
And essentially, it states that he's about to, should he know anything else about the Virginia situation before he calls Trump?
So it seems like, you know, Epstein also called Trump after the fact, after he had worked with Edwards on the Virginia Guffray Roberts information.
That is in these emails.
So the public still has like kind of this obfuscated view of what this network really is and the crimes committed.
Wexner, big part of it, needs to be brought to justice.
People like Jess Staley, you look at their interactions with Epstein.
It looks like, again, they have big issues.
But we've also got some 9-11 stuff, Aaron.
Have we discussed any of that yet?
No, we have not.
I know that's right there in your wheelhouse for sure.
We are deep in the weeds with Jason Burmese brought to you by River City as a Reader.
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Before we jump into that real quick, so I don't know what year the thing, the whatever statement came out of the files where Trump referred to Epstein as disgusting.
But my thought on that was that maybe he found out about some of this cannibalism stuff that we're seeing kind of pop up in some of the files.
And then as we get, as we kind of drift out, I know that Billy and Hilly are going to be testifying next month, and there's been a bunch of photos of Billy popping up in the hot tubs and all that other stuff.
So, you know, I don't know.
I'm interested to see what happens next week for sure, but please proceed, sir.
So since you brought up the quote-unquote cannibal stuff, before we get into the 9-11 stuff, I am telling people, I think I even said this last week, be very careful with the quote-unquote coded language stuff and what you think it may or may not mean or what you think it entails.
And I'll tell you why.
For instance, if you watch this after the fact over on my thing, that famous cannibal email, the one where they're talking about the chef, right?
And the jerky.
Yep, the cannibal actually exists.
It was in Long Island, New York.
And the chef that they're talking about also exists and is in the emails like a thousand plus times.
His name is Francis Derby.
So there is a cannibal restaurant.
He did cook steak there.
And his name is Francis Derby.
Now, I want to go over one of the pizza emails really quick.
Obviously, Pizzagate was huge, and everybody is kind of breaking out their jump to conclusions, Matt, that anytime you see something like coded language, whether it be jerky or pizza, it's some kind of grape soda.
It's some kind of, you know, sex or cannibal thing, right?
Let me assure people, there's more than that.
So this is an email.
That's where I thought you were going with that statement.
Well, all right.
I'm not, this is what I want to say to people.
I don't know that anybody is eating anybody, right?
I know there's some really disturbing emails in there, and I know there's coded languages.
I know these people are pretty sick.
I know that Jeffrey Epstein refers to growing trumpet plants in his quote-unquote nursery.
If you don't know what a trumpet plant is, it is literally a zombie plant.
Go look into it.
It's crazy that that's in the emails as well.
But, you know, I've talked about Lewis Black and that conversation he had with Ahud Barak or with Jeffrey Epstein about the arms dealing, right?
Well, Lewis Black went there with another comedian named Bobby Slayton.
Bobby Slayton is no longer with us.
He has one of the best episodes of Kirby Enthusiasm ever.
But Slayton was friends with Epstein.
Now, one of the pizza emails with Leslie Groff, Leslie Groff being one of the co-conspirators with Epstein, Leslie Groff, Sarah Kalin, Adriana Ross, Nadia Marcinko, Groff all over the emails.
They're talking about Slayton coming into town the next morning or leaving the next morning and coming into town the next day.
And here it is.
So in this email, Groff goes, hello, Bobby.
Hope you've been having a great time with your honey.
Hope you have been having a great time with you, honey.
Reconfirming you will both come see Jeffrey at 4 p.m. today.
So he's talking about, I guess, she's talking about Bobby and his current girlfriend.
And he says to her, leaving tomorrow morning early.
And yes, of course, we will be there at four.
You need a pizza or anything.
And then the response from Leslie, now remember, this isn't Epstein's associate offering him a pizza.
It's Bobby offering her a pizza.
She says, ha ha ha.
No, I don't need a pizza, but thank you in big letters for offering with a little smiley emoji, wink-wink thing.
See you at four.
So to me, that's probably drugs, right?
I would imagine that Bobby Slayton, the comedian, is not with his girlfriend coming in from somewhere else in the country and then going to just pick up like a small child for Leslie Groff, right?
I would sure like to think that.
Well, again, I think that's more drugs.
I haven't seen any evidence of Groff abusing any of these young girls.
Instead, it looks like Groff was one of those that was, you know, abused but taken in, you know what I mean?
And became part of that harem and network as some of these girls did.
So I think there's a wide range of stuff in there that is illegal, is terrible, could go to the darkest, dark places, but could be, in some cases, cocaine, ecstasy, things of that nature.
Epstein kept a secret garden of toxic plants that turned people into zombies, quote, eliminates free will, zombie drug.
Mike, you grow these plants.
What do you use them for?
I can't remember.
I mean, you know, and these plants are apparently from India.
And yeah, they produce some sort of drug that makes, you know, people don't know what's going on.
Not shocking that they would be linked to Epstein.
Kind of, kind of wild.
If you remember that 80s movie, The Serpent and the Rainbow, all about burying people and the zombies, like that, that took place around those trumpet plants.
Okay.
So, you know, it was supposedly based on a true story.
You know, obviously, it's a horror movie, and just like the Amityville Horror House, they, you know, took a lot of liberties with it.
But based in that are these kind of trumpet plants.
There's also another movie out there, much more recent with Channing Tatum about an island and these type of plants and some pretty dark stuff called Blink Twice.
So, look, I'm not saying that there isn't plenty out there that does seem to be extremely dark.
I just warn people not to break out the jump to conclusions, Matt, and not getting, like, again, Derby is his chef.
You know what I mean?
He is his cook.
I want to hope.
I want to hope that we're not talking about actual cannibal activity.
But, like, for instance, there is like another really weird and sarcastic email about babies and cream cheese that doesn't make a lot of sense that is in these files as well.
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Let's just bring that one up for people to read.
Now, again, I don't know what this means, but it says this right here.
And this person's emailing Epstein.
LOL, I don't know if cream cheese and baby are on the same level.
Dot, dot, dot.
It's okay.
There is still enough time today.
I am trying to schedule priming for 5:30, fuel explosion, 9:45 p.m.
We'll bring a new engine startup video.
Now, we don't know who this is to, but then, you know, Epstein responds: there are millions of babies, very little good vegetable cream cheese.
So, again, take it for what you will.
I don't necessarily know.
What I do know is that these people were surrounded by other powerful people and part of narrative management groups.
For instance, in 2003, in January, Ghelene Maxwell gets contacted by a J. Edward Epstein, or I'm sorry, Edward J. Epstein, who is not related to Epstein and instead is a quote-unquote journalist, but we'll get into that in a minute.
And he's asking her, any interest in being on the shadow commission on 9-11?
The membership list is secret.
Now, there's a couple websites there.
Ghelaine Maxwell says she's too busy to join.
So, what the hell would a shadow commission on 9-11 be?
Well, this guy is notorious for narrative management in the sense that he's like the contrarian and the dissident, but he doesn't go too far.
So, he wrote several books on the Kennedy assassination, you know, all of which delving into the conspiracy.
But then at the end of the day, he's the guy that I'll tell you, you know, after 40 years, none of the conspiracies have panned out.
So, I honestly believe, and I told you, I've done some more history digging on this.
It's H.W. Bush, because that's why they'll never release who killed him.
Well, if they've even put that on file, or, you know, first of all, we don't even have any, yeah, I mean, we don't even have any documentation other than some of the FOIAs that you can't necessarily, you know, pin it on George H.W. Bush being there.
You know, he's not officially in the CIA until he's the director.
And yet, his father, Prescott Bush, OSS, integral in creating the Central Intelligence Agency, you seem to have pictures that look like Bush in Dallas that day.
He doesn't know where he is.
Yeah, isn't that his claim?
He always said he didn't know where he was that day.
Yeah, I can't remember what he was doing or where he was.
Plebe with dad to leader of the CIA.
You got to pull up a pretty big job.
But that's, in my opinion, that's the closed door for me is that they'll never release who shot Kennedy because it was him.
And they can't have that.
I mean, can you imagine?
If that was actually an accepted truth?
Can you imagine if it was not just him, but it was a wider conspiracy with a few, you know, Bush would become a future president, but also the current president, Lyndon Baines Johnson, who doesn't look good.
You know what I mean?
That would show you, you know, the current power structure at the time was able to do it and then put that same power structure in the presidency later on, which to me is, like you said, it's a pretty big possibility.
As far as the narrative management with this guy, this J. Edward Epstein, he questions whether or not the hijackers actually used box cutters.
There's very little evidence, if any, that they used box cutters, by the way.
It looks like there was weapons planted on planes and it went far beyond that.
But I found this one really interesting because the guy that's sending Epstein one of the torture videos and you see Epstein cooking with is a guy that actually also had to step down this week because of the files.
And it's a Saudi Arabian contact.
I'll show the email here.
It's Sultan bin Sailam.
And in this email from 2010, he's contacting Epstein.
He said, I'm attaching some media clippings regarding the Israeli operation in Dubai.
I will call you around 7 p.m. Eastern time.
What happened doesn't help anyone.
So once again, you have Epstein being contacted by a high-level government official in another country about a assassination taking place via the Israelis.
Again, this shows this guy is networked into geopolitics on that level.
It turns out that this is an assassination of a Hamas official, right?
And none other than J. Edward Epstein will go on television and try to marginalize or obfuscate the Israeli role in this assassination altogether.
So when we're talking about narrative management, it seems like the Epsteins are very much simpatico.
And by the way, I mentioned that he was a quote-unquote journalist.
He's also an MIT professor.
And we also know what Epstein was close to another MIT professor that was big on narrative management and being the contrarian and the dissident.
Who's that?
Noam Chomsky, right?
So Noam Chomsky will tell you about manufacturing consent and the West, etc.
But you ask him about building seven and 9-11, and he'll tell you you're crazy.
He'll tell you to question authority up until the point that the COVID-19 44 nightmare comes into town and they want to inject you with bioweapons.
He says, if you don't want to be injected with those, you need to be separated by society.
Now, really, another big, interesting aspect of 9-11 in these files, you know, you just mentioned there's still another two and a half million pages that we know about, or some people are saying only 3% of the files.
Well, it so happens that there seem to be some files missing from these, and they coincide between two big time periods.
One is 1995 to 1998, where in data set nine, a lot of the correspondences are totally and completely missing.
And then between 2002 and 2005, a bunch of the financials are missing.
But in this period between 99 and 2001, the 9-11 stuff, we have DB SDNY 027018 as one file.
And then the next sequence is SDNY 04200.
That's 15,000 ledger lines that are no longer there.
Now, will they be in the next dump?
I don't know.
But why would I speculate about those two time periods?
Number one, we know that Maria Farmer went to the FBI in 1996 on Epstein, right?
Now, that was pure speculation until this first file dump came out.
That's one of the files they released.
She reported him to the FBI.
Imagine if the FBI had opened up some type of an investigation on Epstein or they were ordered not to, and that's in the documentation between 95 and 98.
We already mentioned that Epstein got a heads up when Trump started talking to Bradley Edwards.
Epstein seems to have got a heads up when they opened the other case and he orders the sulfuric acid.
You may see in that time period that he gets a heads up that the FBI is surveilling him and maybe opening up an investigation.
It would also be pretty telling as to what the FBI investigated and who they brought into that arena.
Now, as far as the 9-11 stuff, Epstein's an arms dealer.
He never stopped dealing arms.
And the war on terror was big business.
On top of that, you have the insider trading with the airlines just before.
There's a possibility there may be something in the emails there.
But then you could get into DHS, like we were talking about.
DHS didn't exist yet.
Department of Homeland Security had a lot of great contracts in the Defense Department.
And not only just arms dealing and weapon systems, remember things like body scanners that were put in via the TSA at airports.
Those were done so through people like Benjamin Shertoff, who, you know, was a member of the FBI as one of the deputy directors and then one of the heads, original heads of Homeland Security.
So imagine if we have those type of emails between those individuals and Epstein's profiteering from 9-11 or maybe even has some foreknowledge of it.
You know, anything is possible.
I'm very interested as to see what is in those emails.
And then there's this one tip email.
Now, as you know, Aaron, I've kind of told people you got to be careful on what you believe with these files that, you know, especially 2019, 2020, anybody could call in and make a tip.
And in this email in particular, I'm on the fence.
I don't know who it's from or to because all that's redacted.
In fact, there's a ton of redactions here.
But the subject line is Khashoggi connects to Epstein.
Khashoggi, of course, the arms dealer with the harem during Iran-Contra that did business with Epstein and Epstein learned how to get a harem from him.
Now, in this, you know, very jumbled email, there's this section at the bottom that says, if there is a grand jury on 9-11 and Epstein, then Berman, Jeffrey Berman, who was running that operation, knows they connect.
So if there is any credence to this tip and email, there would be a good chance that Berman would know that Epstein and 9-11 connect because he was on that case.
Well, there's a lot of connections here, that's for sure.
I got a couple of things I want to throw at you quick here before, because I know we're running out of time.
Did you see that in New Mexico, lawmakers passed legislation to launch what they said will be the first full investigation in Zorro Ranch?
I did.
I did.
And you know, that one also comes from an email conversation where at first I was very hesitant.
And I'm still, again, when I talk about these things, there's so much out there that I don't necessarily just commit to, right?
We've had this conversation.
Yes, it exists.
What it means, that could be a completely and totally different thing.
But this one in particular that we're going to talk about, essentially, you had what I thought was just a random tip.
As it got less redacted, you find out that the individual that gives this tip is a prominent DJ in the area, and he's actually running for office in that time period under the Republican banner.
So he's contacting, he's got a contact inside.
But when you read that email that has the bit about the two girls that were apparently killed during, you know, rough sexual activity and then buried on the ranch, again, I read a more redacted version of it.
I didn't realize that it was somebody that supposedly worked there that said that and was being relayed by this person.
But at the end of the day, they claimed that they had like five or six videos that they time coded of certain abuse outside of those two people that were buried on the ranch, and they wanted a Bitcoin for it.
They said if they got a Bitcoin at this address, then they would provide those videos to the FBI.
Now, I doubt that the FBI paid off that Bitcoin, but it could have very much been a quote-unquote Bitcoin heist.
Now, let me take it to the other side of the arena.
For those that don't know, Courtney Love has been in the documents and on the, I think she's on the flight list, certainly in the black book, as an Epstein.
Courtney Love.
Yes, as an Epstein contact for many, many years.
And Courtney Love, of course, now back in the news because of the renewed interest in the death of Kurt Cobain.
In fact, she's not even in the country.
She moved out of the country, I think, in May of last year for whatever reason.
Her father, interesting guy, who's like a band manager for some famous bands, did some things.
He believes, number one, that his daughter, he's dead now, but he believed his daughter did kill Kurt.
And he also had written something about Epstein.
So I contacted him.
And he never came on the show, but I did a video where I showed our conversation, which was through Facebook Messenger.
And in that conversation, he said, he essentially said, yeah, no, the lucky ones are the ones that got out alive.
He goes, there are so many people that didn't and just were taken off into the desert and buried.
So, you know, again, I didn't say it.
I don't have any insider knowledge.
He believed that his daughter, Courtney Love, and her boyfriend at the time were part of the ring that was actually trafficking in the young girls and women through the modeling connections.
Wow.
Well, there's a lot of the, I've seen, you know, speculation that the baby tie-in was some of these girls that they were trafficking got pregnant would have the babies and then they would keep, you know, God knows what.
We're out of time.
It's Kurt Cobain's birthday, by the way.
Didn't know if he knew that, which is kind of a weird tie-in.
Real quick, do you know if there's another file dump coming or when it would be coming?
Yes, there's absolutely another file dump coming.
The question is when.
No, we don't have a hard date on that.
At the same time, I just want to remind people: we do now have the four-plus-hour deposition of Les Wexner as of yesterday.
That is a big deal.
I would implore people to not only check out what we have there, but what is coming.
We're going to have the depositions of Hillary and Bill Clinton.
And I think that we're probably going to see physical dumps of more documentation over the next couple months, but also intertwined with this quote-unquote UFO disclosure in order to try to make the UFO and alien disclosure the story and obfuscate the true crimes of these individuals.
We're in for a wild ride.
2026 is going to be a year to remember.
I can promise you that, Aaron.
I believe that.
I saw Pam Bonnie said they couldn't prosecute everybody in the Epstein files because our government would bold or something like that.
Listen, let me say this.
I saw that same quote about the entire system collapsing.
Somebody needs to show me the video clip because, again, I'm seeing fake stuff everywhere.
There's no reason to fake anything, guys.
There's so much here.
There's so much meat on this bone.
Beware of anybody that is posting things without proof, without the documents, and just telling you the most sensation.
Look, I get it.
Asmund Gold's a big streamer, and he's just learning about this stuff.
And he's talking about the jerky and the cannibalism, et cetera, et cetera.
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These people do not have a baseline for the actual information, how these networks actually work and what these files actually show.
So be very careful out there.
And if you want to see the actual documents, you want to see the actual breakdowns, come on over to my channel, The InfoWarrior, Jason Burmes, B-E-R-M-A-S on YouTube.
And then also watch all of my documentary films.
Listen, I laid out the entire Epstein network without Epstein, an invisible empire, a new world order to find.
A must-watch, folks.
Check this out.
We'll leave you with this, Jason.
Mike.
No, I got a question for you.
Let's hear it.
That's here.
Where were you when JFK got shot?
I was in second grade, I think.
Yeah, so at St. Matt School, and the nuns told us, and everybody cried.
So my point is this.
Josephus just texted me something.
How would anyone on the planet that was alive the day JFK was shot not know where they were or what they were doing, George H.W. Bush?
Great question.
Because everybody remembers where they were when JFK got shot.
Just like everybody remembers where they were when 9-11 happened.
And that is going to do it, folks.
I hope you enjoyed the program.
We explored so many aspects of what is going on, not only with the Epstein files, but mainstream media narratives and beyond.