CIA BEING SUED For Experimenting On 16-Year Old Girl!!!
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We have developed speed, but we have shut ourselves in.
Machinery that gives abundance has left us in want.
We think too much and feel too little.
More than machinery.
We need humanity.
We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat.
As if that's the way it's supposed to be.
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They're crazy.
I'm a human being!
God damn it.
My life has been.
You have meddled with the primal forces of nature.
Don't give yourselves to brutes.
Men who despise you, enslave you, who regiment your lives, tell you what to do, what to think, or what to feel, who drill you, diet you, treat you like cattle, use you as cannon fodder.
Don't give yourselves to these unnatural men!
Machine men with machine minds and machine hearts!
Hey everybody, Jason Burmes here, and we often talk about the human experimentation on the general populace by our government.
And one of the most known or well-known programs out there is MK Ultra.
Now, there are many other programs.
There were predecessors like Bluebird and Artichoke.
And even during the MKUltra time period, you had things like MK Often, which we covered here with Kurt Medzker, where one of the grotesque things that we know about in that program was trying to recreate the, I wouldn't say sensation, but the end game of a concussion so that you would no longer have memory.
Can you only imagine the things they were doing people to enact concussive-like things to their brains so that they would not remember whatever horrific thing that the government had them carry out or be a part of?
Very bizarre.
Very bizarre.
But truth is stranger than fiction.
And back in the day, I did this little breakup mini doc series via this, just a little MKUltra series from a old school, you know, mainstream investigation called Mission Mind Control.
And in this, we are going to show you just a subsection of two of the victims from the Mission Mind Control documentary that I believe came out in the early 80s.
Okay.
Now, the first guy, he is essentially somebody who was in the military and they went operational with dosing him with LSD.
And then this other woman, not part of the military, and in fact, was depatterned, if you will, through brainwashing techniques and torture, in my opinion, the likes of which that we would continue to do via Guantanamo Bay, where you essentially cut off all sensory perception.
Put somebody so they have mittens on, they can't see anything, their bodies are covered up, and then they're hearing the same thing over and again.
Okay, and the article we're going to read right now, and we're going to read it top to bottom, and then we're going to show you this part of Mission Mind Control, is yet another example of a young person who was sent away for being a wayward teenager, 16-year-old girl, and experimented on by the CIA.
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So here it is.
I think this was out of, yeah, this was the past week.
It actually got sent to me by a buddy of mine, Stuart, Jay Hooper.
We got to get him back on the broadcast, talk some geopolitics.
At 16, I was experimented on by the CIA, and now I'm suing.
Good.
Good.
Let's read this one top to bottom.
The first thing Lana Ponting remembers about the Allen Memorial Institute, a former psychiatric hospital in Montreal, Canada, is the smell almost medicinal.
I didn't like the look of the place.
It didn't look like a hospital to me, she told the BBC from her home in Manitoba.
That hospital was once the home of a Scottish shipping magnate who would be her home for a month in April 1958 after a judge ordered the then 16-year-old to undergo treatment for disobedient behavior.
Isn't that nice?
The old disobedient behavior gag.
It was there that Miss Ponting became one of thousands of people experimented on as a part of the CIA's top secret research into mind control.
Now, she is one of two named plaintiffs in a class action lawsuit for Canadian victims of the experiments.
On Thursday, a judge denied the Royal Victoria Hospital's appeal, paving the way for the lawsuit to proceed.
According to her medical files, which she obtained only recently, Ms. Potting had been running away from home and hanging out with friends her parents disapproved of after a difficult move with her family from Ottawa to Montreal.
I was an ordinary teenager, she recalled, but the judge sent her to the Allen.
Once there, she became an unwinning participant in covert CIA experiments known as MKUltra.
The Cold War project tested the effects of psychedelic drugs like LSD, electroshock treatments, and brainwashing techniques on human beings without their consent.
They always loved the LSD, and yes, you'll hear it in the next one, but it was so much more than that.
Much of our modern pharmaceuticals come out of that era and collaboration with this project as well.
And that should come as no surprise to anybody.
They loved this.
Best thing since breakfast to these psychopaths.
Over 100 institutions, hospitals, prisons, and schools in the U.S. and Canada were involved.
At the Allen and then McGill University researcher, Dr. Ewan Cameron, drugged patients and made them listen to recordings, sometimes thousands of times, in a process he called exploring.
Dr. Cameron would make Ms. Ponning listen to the same tape recording hundreds of times.
It ran over and over again.
You're a good girl.
You're a bad girl, Ms. Ponning recalled.
The technique was a form of psychic driving, says doctoral student Jordan Torbet, who has researched his experiments and their ethical implications.
Essentially, the minds of the patients were manipulated using verbal cues, she says.
Adding, he also looked at the effects of sleep drugs, forced sensory deprivation, and induced comas.
This is what they were doing to these people.
You understand?
Trying to split their personalities, trying to have verbal cues, trying to make their brains mash potatoes.
Medical records show Ms. Ponning was given LSD, as well as drugs like sodium ametol, a barbituate, dysoxin, a stimulant, as well as nitric oxide gas, a sedative known as laughing gas.
Okay?
So again, all those drugs are involved and so many more.
So many more.
By April 30th, the patient had explorations.
She had become quite tense and extremely violent when given the nitrous oxide, throwing herself half out of bed and starting to scream.
Dr. Cameron wrote in the medical files, which Ms. Ponting has obtained through a federal freedom of information request.
The harsh truth about the MKUltra experiments first came to light in the 1970s.
Since then, several victims have tried to sue the U.S. and Canada.
Lawsuits in the U.S. have been largely unsuccessful.
But in 1988, a Canadian judge ordered the U.S. government to pay nine victims.
Oh, a whopping, are you ready?
$67,000 each.
Well, how about that?
In 1992, the Canadian government paid $100,000, about $80,000 at the time, to each of the 77 victims, but did not admit liability.
Well, whoopadoo!
Wow.
Big money hustling.
Well, 1992, Jay, I mean, $80,000.
So what?
I don't want to be anybody's guinea pig.
No amount of money is really going to make it better.
I mean, think about that trauma.
For decades, Ms. Ponning said she felt something was wrong with her, but she did not learn the details of her own involvement in the experiments until somewhat recently.
She says she had a litany of memory of what happened at the Allen or in the years that followed.
She's had little memory.
I'm sorry.
Miss Ponning eventually married and moved to Manitoba where she had two children whom she is still close to.
Now she's a grandmother to four children, but she says she suffered lifelong repercussions from her time at the Allen.
I felt it all my life because I was wondering why I would think this way or you know what happened to me.
She says she had to be on a cocktail of medications her whole life to deal with mental health issues, which she attributes to her time at the Allen as well as recurrent nightmares.
Sometimes I wake up screaming in the night because of what happened.
The Royal Victorial Hospital and McGill University declined to comment as the case is before the courts.
The government pointed the BBC to its previous settlement in 1992, which it said was done for humanitarian reasons and did not accept legal liability.
They love, love, love, love to be protected from legal liability.
You know, forget about the fact that all you're getting is any kind of monetary compensation, so you're never under any criminal liability.
They don't want any liability whatsoever.
None.
Zero.
Zip.
Crazy.
For Ms. Ponning, a lawsuit is a chance to finally get some closure.
Sometimes I sit in my living room, my mind goes back, and I can think of the things that happened to me, you know?
She says, every time I see pictures of Dr. Cameron, it makes me so angry.
And I could show you a video of him playing tennis and just living it up.
I mean, these are real-life Mengele-type individuals.
Although Dr. Cameron's work has since become synonymous with MKUltra experiments, Ms. Torbay says her research shows he didn't know he was being funded by the CIA at the time.
His work with U.S. intelligence agency ended in 1964, and he died shortly after of a heart attack in 1967.
But regardless of whether he knew or where the money was coming from, Ms. Torbet says he should have known the experiments he was conducting were not ethical.
She says she hopes the lawsuit goes forward and the victims get some sense of justice.
It isn't really about giving the patients back what they lost because that's not possible, correct?
But sort of almost making sure the suffering wasn't in vain that we do learn from this.
I don't know if we've learned anything other than we know how corrupt our own government is.
And that's why we're going to play you this video from Mission Mind Control.
Again, two separate victims, the first in the military and the second with a similar story to this one.
When James Thornwell was given LSD by Army intelligence in 1961, this time it was no experiment.
This time, the express purpose was to peel back Thornwell's brain to bear any secret within it.
This time, the Army had gone operational.
Thornwell, as reported on ABC last January, was an Army private stationed in Orléans, France.
Classified documents were missing from his unit.
Thornwell became a suspect.
His two and a half month interrogation included administration of sodium pentothal, hypnosis, isolation, and deprivation of sleep.
Army documents obtained by ABC News refer to this interrogation as conventional.
Despite the severe questioning, Army intelligence was getting nowhere with Thornwell, and it was decided to slip him LSD.
For 16 years, Thornwell never knew what had hit him.
Tell me about the asset.
I'd rather not.
It's a bad trip.
It's a bad trip.
That was a bad trip.
The pain was so excruciating.
It felt like somebody was taking me with a million pins.
You know, it is everywhere.
Oh, it just.
Do you want to start with me?
I walked around.
Do you want to start?
Oh, I can talk.
I'll live through it.
No charges were ever brought by the Army against Thornwell.
He was discharged for psychological disorders.
But an Army psychiatric evaluation of Thornwell obtained by ABC News, one which was done prior to Thornwell having been given LSD, says of him, fairly cooperative, oriented, alert, and gave no evidence of psychosis or depression.
From the Army's point of view, this type of LSD interrogation was a success.
Other documents refer to the exploitability of interrogation subjects, cracking them, keeping them off balance mentally, and providing an economical, speedy, and productive aid to interrogation.
From James Thornwell's point of view, it was no success.
Thornwell still has serious problems.
He's run through two marriages.
He maintains he can't hold a job, can't concentrate, has nightmares, and feels socially and emotionally isolated.
Last fall, Thornwell filed suit against the government in federal court.
In a moment, we will examine the closest experimentation to brainwashing that we have uncovered.
And this is going to get into the depatterning.
This is going to be to get into those Canadian universities as well.
All right, and this is somebody, guess what, not in the military.
By far, the most chilling experiments we have uncovered took place at this Gothic estate called Raven's Crag, halfway up Mount Royal in Montreal.
It houses the Allen Memorial Institute of Psychiatry of McGill University.
It was here that the CIA funded a series of experiments, severe experiments.
The work was done by the Institute's then director, Dr. Ewan Cameron.
It is the closest experimentation to brainwashing yet disclosed.
His work, unprecedented in psychiatry, consisted of three areas which he called sleep therapy, psychic driving, and the ultimate depatterning.
Dr. Maurice Dangier, current head of the Allen Memorial Institute.
In his psychic driving, so-called type of therapy, he would give the patient intensive electric treatment in order to make the patient regress deeply, become forgetful, and then he would attempt to implant new ideas in the mind of the patient.
Now, to a layman, it would appear that Dr. Cameron was trying to take the slate and wipe it clean, the slate being the mind.
In other words, brainwashing.
Exactly, that's a very good comparison.
Brainwashing.
Yes.
True.
Val Orlico of Winnipeg, Canada, the wife of a member of the Canadian Parliament, was a patient of Dr. Cameron's.
She entered the Allen Memorial Institute because of severe depression.
She describes for the first time publicly the LSD therapy and psychic driving treatment that she was given by Dr. Cameron.
And then the drug began to take hold very rapidly because it was an IV injection, and Things became very furry and very frightening and had a lot of sensations that it's very difficult to recall.
Nobody explained it to me.
Nobody ever asked me if I was willing to do it or anything.
He had this feeling that he would be able to get through the resistance of illness and to reach deep change very quickly.
Did he?
I don't think that when you look at that in retrospect, the hopes that he had have been in any way fulfilled.
Well, that's the whole thing.
They always tell you, oh, they weren't able to succeed, or oh, this was the end.
And, you know, I would contend neither of those things are actually true.
I would say they were able to do some really, really terrible things and continue to do really terrible things.
But Cameron would plunge on.
The next step was what he called psychic driving.
This involved almost endless tape-recorded messages and more drugs for the patient.
Cameron wrote that this was the way to make direct control changes in personality.
I thought this was the coldest and most impersonal treatment that anybody could give to anybody in the world.
And I became more and more despondent and more and more angry.
I just became so despondent that I thought I can't live like this any longer.
And I thought I would just go out and throw myself underneath the cars on McGregor.
I stood on the curb of that street and I stood there and I thought, okay, go.
Okay, go.
And then I thought, what if you're not killed?
What if you're just maimed?
What if you don't die and you live and you can't even talk anymore?
And I couldn't do it.
The most severe technique Cameron used was depatterning.
He described it as breaking up the existing patterns of behavior by means of intensive electroshock therapy with prolonged periods of sleep.
He carried out these experiments in something he called the sleep rooms.
People in there were like babies.
They cried and they were very disoriented.
And we were very afraid of the sleep room.
We used to walk very carefully against the side of the corridor that was opposite the sleep room with our backs to the wall when we'd go by.
Cameron used this combined sleep-electroshock treatment on patients as long as 30 days.
One patient he kept asleep for 65 days.
Cameron retired and his successor, Dr. Robert Clayhorn, ordered a follow-up study on the patients treated with Cameron's depatterning method.
It showed that it was no more beneficial in its result than the use of more conservative methods.
But the follow-up study showed that 60% of those who had been depatterned still had amnesia for periods of anywhere from six months to 10 years.
That's quite a memory loss, isn't it?
That is a memory loss.
Indeed, it is.
It's more, I think, more than desirable.
Oh, oh, more than desirable?
I mean, did you see him look into the sides when his talking point got challenged and he couldn't even disagree with it?
I mean, my God.
Retrospect, does Dr. Cameron's experimentation and his treatment appear harsh?
I would say yes, this forceful type of approach that I was describing to you is definitely, it can be said that it's harsh.
I wouldn't call it harsh.
I would say it was harder on the staff than it was on the patients because these people had to be fed and they had to be cared for and they had to be given sufficient fluid and food and toileted and so on and so forth.
Harder on the staff.
Now, I want you to think about something.
What kind of person could have been on this staff on the ground floor, even if they were telling them this was helping them?
I mean, to me, this even goes beyond the COVID 1984 nightmare of nursing and, you know, wabba-jabba-wabba.
Because you're literally watching these people being induced into comas.
You're watching these people listening to the same thing again and again and again and again.
It outwardly represents torture again and again and again and again.
Harder on the staff.
Wow, that's a bold thing to say.
It was a very difficult thing for the staff to follow these patients properly and see that they did well.
Well, I'm glad he was concerned for the staff.
But damn it all, I wouldn't.
I could have maybe had a different kind of life.
And that makes me angry and sad.
And I don't know how to explain how I feel, really.
I just, I just sort of.
How did you feel when you learned that Dr. Cameron's experimentation was financed by the CIA?
Well, I thought, oh, I can't even use the word that I thought because I thought that bastard.
And he was too smart.
He knew.
He knew who he was working for.
And excuse me.
But I just, you know, I just can't, sometimes I can't believe it.
And yet I know it's true.
If you had the opportunity to say something to the people at the Central Intelligence Agency who financed this study, what would you say?
I realize the CIA is a very important organization and they have a very important job to do.
But God, it surely doesn't have to be done on people who are totally incapable of knowing what's happening or having any defense against it.
And I can't imagine the mentality of people who would do this.
I just can't.
As for Dr. Cameron, he died in 1966 while mountain climbing.
A colleague wrote of Cameron, for him the ends justified the means.
And when one is dealing with the waste of human potential, it is easy to adopt this stance.
Dr. Cameron seemed ideally suited for what the CIA had in mind.
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