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RFK Jr Epstein And 9/11: Deep In The Weeds

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Deep in the Weeds 00:01:09
Hey everybody, Jason Burmes here and it's time to get deep in the weeds once more with 1077WQUD.
Now, unfortunately, in this episode, at one point when I'm talking about Epstein, I get disconnected without me knowing it.
So we're going to play through the portion that I do disconnect.
I reconnect, and I'm going to have to repeat some information about Epstein over again.
Just a small warning.
Buckle up and get ready to make sense of the madness.
Deep in the weeds with Jason Burmese.
That's right.
Here we go.
It is time for Deep in the Weeds with Jason Burmese, brought to you by River City's Reiner Course documentary filmmaker.
Check him out on YouTube, TV, Making Sense of the Madness, or at least trying.
I think he does a pretty good job.
And here he is, the man, the myth, the legend, Jason Burmese.
What's going on, Jason?
How are you doing today?
I'm doing good, man.
I'll give you a warning here.
We have Mike, our 68-year-old, partially retired guy that kind of helps me co-host this stuff.
And I try to get him in here.
Pfizer's Political Lobbying Power 00:05:47
It's tough, though.
These retired guys are busy.
But yeah, he's in here today.
I thought he'd be a fun guy to have in for a little other perspective.
And he's really enjoying the segment and wanted to be part of it anyway.
How you doing, Mike?
I'm doing good.
Hi, Jason.
Hi, how are you doing today?
Real good.
Real good.
All right.
So, well, a little fireworks yesterday with RFK Jr., huh?
Yeah.
You know, I've been following, obviously, this second Trump administration pretty closely.
And although, in my opinion, there have been some major disappointments with Donnie T, one of the people that has really shined brightly during this second run is RFK Jr.
And I know there are a lot of critics out there that's saying he's not doing enough and the food dies is a distraction, etc.
But if you watched even a quarter of what happened yesterday on the Senate floor, it was disturbing.
It should really let you know where establishment politicians are at when the vast majority on both sides are actually attacking Kennedy, when Bernie Sanders is going on a tirade in which he does not allow RFK Jr. to respond.
And that was kind of the theme for anybody that was trying to quote unquote dress him down and make him out to be some type of anti-science Neanderthal.
They never let him address them.
And if they did, it was in a short form and did not allow him to elaborate or speak.
I would hope that the vast majority of Americans can see through this thin veil of really authoritarianism based in this big pharma lobbyist culture.
Sanders got up there and was like, is everybody corrupt?
We're all taking money from big pharma.
Yes, you are.
Yeah, you are.
Actually, that's not a great argument for you.
I've often argued that modern day lobbying is one of the key things that is keeping us away from reinstituting our constitutional republic of checks and balances.
And what do I mean by that?
Until Rogers, well, until Roger Stone and the gang came around, and we're talking early 80s, it was completely illegal for lobbyists to come in with their money and just start paying politicians.
They're the ones that not only legalized that, but then normalized that practice.
Politicians should not be able to take any money from any type of quote-unquote lobbying groups.
And lobbying groups should not be built just for big corporations or non-government organizations or special interest groups, but the very citizenry that make up the constituency that these politicians are supposed to vote on behalf of.
So, what do I mean by that?
Well, if you're going to allow a lobbyist from Pfizer to come in and talk to your local congressman or center, there should be equal time for a group that doesn't have the money of Pfizer.
And by the way, Pfizer can't give them money on top of it.
I think that that would do a lot to even the playing field.
But even when you look at these big drug, big pharma companies, the FDA, the CDC in particular, it seems to be a revolving door of politicians that champion their causes, vote for their causes, and then work for their institutions at an exorbitant rate, great pay hike after the fact of them leaving office.
Seems extremely corrupt to me.
And I thought that RFK Jr. did just a phenomenal job deflecting, answering the questions when he was allowed, and sticking to the truth.
And the truth is that we have been manipulated and lied to by these organizations.
The truth is that, quite frankly, Kennedy has not done enough.
The truth is that that purge over at HHS was completely necessary, and we need more.
The truth is, he had every right to fire that woman that all of these Democrats opined about.
So, you know, if there's a champion in this second administration, it really is RFK Jr.
And frankly, to me, he is far and away the best choice coming up for the 2028 elections while an RNC is trying to push a JD Vance.
And look, JD Vance is a very, very smart guy.
He's very well spoken.
I don't know that he has not only the credentials, but the gumption of a guy like RFK Jr.
RFK Jr. is absolutely killing it.
Well, I'll say this.
He has to survive this four years first.
And if we keep seeing what we did yesterday, he might have a air quote heart attack or however they make it look like a natural cause when it actually wasn't a natural cause.
He's a Kennedy.
Let's keep that in mind.
They have like a little bit of a curse following him around.
And I don't think he'll ever have the opportunity, to be honest, to run for office, to run for president, or if it looks like he's going to actually get the nomination or actually make it.
Why We Left Facebook 00:03:15
But I did want to inject a little math into this real quick for everybody.
And this is according to Bernie Sanders' Facebook page.
No, I'm not on Facebook, and I sure as heck don't follow Bernie Sanders, but I pulled up some stuff because I was looking for numbers, and there's all kinds of different areas where you can look at this.
But so over the past 25 years, drug companies have spent $8.5 billion on lobbying.
Now, the lobbyists are typically former congressmen or women.
So they kind of just loop right back in.
They've also given $700 million in campaign contributions to political people on both sides of the aisle.
In 2020, Bernie Sanders accepted $1.5 million alone in lobby dollars from big pharma.
And now he sits, I don't know if he's the chair, but I know he sits on the healthcare and pharmaceutical, whatever it is, committee, I guess is the word I'm looking for.
So this is what $8.5 billion.
That's a lot of money that they're just bribing these guys with.
And what a great way to keep things just how you want them.
What a great business model, Jason Burmes, to actually own the people that vote on what you're able to do.
You know, absolutely.
And remember, you know, you just kind of alluded to the idea that you have the revolving door of politicians actually working as the lobbyists.
You alluded to the fact that it is highly profitable to vote and champion the causes of big pharma.
But I'd also like to point out why you see big pharma commercials literally on everything en masse.
And the truth of the matter is that those commercials aren't necessarily there to sell you on the latest drug.
I mean, if you think about how many quote-unquote HIV prep drugs that you see on the History Channel or TLC or ESPN, do you really think that many people have HIV or need those drugs?
No, these advertisements also act as a way to pay off the television networks and the media companies, again, to be extremely friendly to these causes, to have their news anchors eviscerate people like RFK Jr. for daring to step out of the box.
So that's just yet another example of how we've been taken advantage of by these corporations and how they flood the zone, not only with their propaganda, but with their money, power, and influence over varied institutions from the media to politics.
Absolutely.
They're the best customers.
How's that going, Death of a Salesman?
It's hard to convince a man of something when the opposite is what his salary depends on.
I mean, when your best customer is a pharmaceutical company, you're not going to go smear them on the news, or you're going to try not to, or you're going to walk around it, or you're going to try to say it as politely as you possibly can.
Spending by pharmaceutical companies in 2023 on advertising, $18 billion.
$18 Billion AI Debates 00:12:29
And that's one year.
I mean, when you think about $18 billion, not $18 million.
$18 billion with a B. Billion dollars.
I don't know that there's a politician out there that you can't buy at least their silence on any of these matters, if not their support with a piggy bank like that, Aaron.
I agree.
I didn't think of that either because I guess maybe you have two levels of bribery.
You know, you got the, you have to support us bribe or lobby contribution, whatever we're supposed to call it.
I'm going to just call it a bribe.
You got the supportive bribe and then you got the silence bribe.
Like, all right, I'll give you half as much just to shut up.
Mike, what were you going to say?
Well, I just have a few points that I've been thinking about.
One of them is, and you alluded to it, is two of the senators, and it was bipartisan dress down of Bobby Kennedy Jr. were doctors and Republicans, a senator from Louisiana and Wyoming.
And then the other thing is I think of the NRA or other big groups and the money they, I wonder how much they spend.
We can look it up.
And then after that, you sort of, it's been like that forever.
But as far as lobbying or buying or gifting, Our President Donald Trump just received a 747 and the family gets rich.
That's another topic.
Yeah.
But then the elephant in the room to me is: I'm pretty independent and neutral, but to me, I watched some of those hearings and I agree Bobby Kennedy Jr. didn't have a very good time limit to respond.
But for me to listen to Bobby Kennedy Jr., the elephant in the room is this halting speech.
And I don't know if he's, yeah, I mean, I can't see, I'm sorry to say it, I can't see that man being president.
No, he doesn't sound smooth like, you know, excuse me, Mr. Speaker, can we help you, please?
He doesn't have that going on, and he's got some sort of throat thing going on.
Yeah, you know, God bless him.
Yeah, just to let you know, the NRA spent on lobbying last year, no, this is 2021, 4.9 million.
So so far and above, pharmaceutical companies.
Big difference between NRA is spending $4.9 million, the pharmaceutical company's $18 billion.
A little different.
It is quite different.
And let me just say this about RFK Jr.'s speech.
Yes, it is grading.
It does grow on you.
You know, you guys were kind of making the old school Kennedy, yeah, he used to talk like that.
You know, I mean, like, if you go back to, you know, 25, 30 years ago when he's doing interviews, he was extremely slick and well-spoken.
And look, he doesn't have the best past personal life either.
And he's certainly been attacked for that as well, maybe rightfully so.
But I just look at a man's actions.
And, you know, you look at the way he was deflected by the Democratic Party when he tried to run for the presidency in 2024.
And it was very, very apparent.
They wanted nothing to do with him.
And they would, they, first, I mean, they tried to push old man dementia.
And if you didn't see old man dementia today or yesterday, he has a massive head wound.
Let me let me repeat that.
He has a massive head wound over the right side of his skull above his eyeball.
Clearly either fell or maybe had some kind of medical procedure.
The guy was never there.
They were willing to go with him over even allowing Bobby Kennedy into the primary arena and then tried to push Kamala Harris.
They didn't even want a debate and they successfully did that.
Can you imagine if RFK Jr. was on stage with either a Kamala Harris or a Joe Biden and other establishment Democrats, even with that grading voice, I promise you he would have absolutely and completely eviscerated them.
If you go back to the 2020 election where Tulsi Gabbard, in my opinion, the other shining star of the second Trump administration up against establishment Democrats, and she was barely able to speak, maybe in a two-hour debate, she got all of six minutes.
She made those six minutes count.
She absolutely embarrassed Kamala Harris.
And really, after that embarrassment, they ran the numbers on Kamala Harris.
She couldn't even command 2% of the primary vote and eventually had to step out of the primaries.
I had this discussion with Dinesh D'Souza.
And the last thing that the Democratic Party wanted was a disruptor like Trump, which basically revamps at least what the party outwardly represents.
And he would have absolutely done that because look, I know it's all the rage and the fashion to go out there and meme and dunk on somebody on the left that's wearing a wacky hat or has their hair dyed.
But at the end of the day, Bernie Sanders clubs.
Exactly.
At the end of the day, the vast majority of the people on the left or that vote Democrat have more in common with their neighbor, the Republican, than they would like to admit.
And we have to start looking at people like Bernie Sanders have been held up by this Democratic establishment as the quote-unquote alternative.
And they're anything but it is unfortunate to me because now that Bobby Kennedy is in this administration, you know that he would never run as a Democrat in 2028.
And quite frankly, I don't know that there is a Democrat in 2028 that can shake up the establishment in the sense of a Kennedy or a Trump.
And I think that's something that the left very badly needs because I think once we get something like that, there will be more of a consensus in the middle.
And, you know, I'm not sold on this whole idea of the culture war that we're absolutely at our throats and we can't talk.
I think that's a media projection.
But if we truly do want it to get better in the sense that we can visually show how we're coming together, we do need that figure in the Democratic Party and on the left.
And it has to be someone that is genuine and not just taking big pharma, military-industrial complex dollars.
I agree.
I, you know, I feel like two strong parties are good for our country.
I don't care which side you're on.
I'm a moderate, you know, and so I don't, I'm not really like far left, far right.
I don't, those both sides are way out of tune for me.
Like, I don't understand that.
And a quick side note: watching those Senate panel hearings, I would compare it to if you had one cookie and the kindergarten teacher left the room and all the kids can fight for that cookie.
I mean, that's how they act.
It's insane.
They act worse than middle school kids.
And these, I mean, talking over each other.
It is completely asinine that they act like that.
And these are the leaders of our country.
It's crazy.
It's absolutely crazy.
I look, I watch those things, and I can't help but just shake my head and believe that these are the folks voting on what we're doing, huh?
Okay.
I mean, it's wild.
Anyways, if nobody's ever watched this, give yourself, if you need a good laugh, watch five minutes of any Senate congressional panel hearing and you'll get it.
Blazing saddles.
I didn't get a hurrump from that guy.
There you go.
That's what I'm talking about.
It's crazy, Jason Burmes.
And then, well, speaking of crazy, while we're on the topics, I thought this whole Department of Defense, the Department of War thing, is stupid.
Why?
So that Pete Hegseth can call himself the Secretary of War and he can flex in the mirror when he walks by because you know he's that dude.
And I mean, whatever.
I'm not saying he's doing a bad job, but he's that dude.
And, you know, and how much money we figured out if they change 1 million people, so there's somewhere between 650,000 and 900,000 employees of the Department of Defense.
There's 1.3 million active duty military.
I don't know who all gets business cards, but if a million people had business cards and they had to change them and they got just 500 new ones, it would cost us $2 billion on average just to change the business cards.
That's not the placards and the nameplates and the emails and just so Pete Hegset can call himself the Secretary of War.
We're going to spend all this money.
That's stupid.
Well, let me just say this about the Secretary of War.
I'm not necessarily for changing the name, but what people don't know is it used to be the Department of War.
It was.
Yeah, yeah, they changed that post.
Yeah, they paid exactly.
They changed it post-World War II to kind of soften the language.
I think it really speaks more to the culture and even kind of like this rabid MAGA movement of the people within it that Trump can do no wrong, that they can't take a step back and see that that is the wrong direction, that we should be using our military on the defensive.
But listen, if we're going to be up, we're going to be honest, we are the Department of War.
I mean, what we've done right now off the coast of Venezuela, in my opinion, is absolutely and completely heinous.
You know, there's a lot of back and forth over this quote-unquote drug boat that was supposedly taken out by the U.S. military.
Venezuela has come out and said that it's entirely AI.
I don't know that I believe that.
Yes, they've come out and said that that boat video is AI.
Now, I was just about to bring that up.
So here's the problem.
We are now in this post-truth world where almost anything can be created digitally in a short amount of time, and it can be done so rather convincingly.
Actually, at the top of my ex account at Jason Burmes, that's B-E-R-M-A-S, you will see a rather entertaining and well-done AI deep fake video of Donald Trump sitting at a table with Bill Gates and Bill Gates cursing and confessing his crimes against humanity.
And it's pretty funny.
Now, some people think it's real because they don't understand what world we're in.
Now, as far as, and we'll get back to Maduro and Venezuela in a section, Trump actually being shown on the spot by Peter Doocy and him saying that that was AI out of the gates, must be AI, must be AI.
I think that's him shooting from the hip without knowing.
Earlier in the day, you had some White House official actually say that they were doing maintenance there because Trump's argument was that they're not even allowed to open the windows and that the windows are completely sealed.
Okay.
Right.
And that may actually be the case.
They're bulletproof windows.
He's probably 100% spot on on that.
But at the same time, if you look at that video, and again, anything's possible on AI, and you look at the commentary of the person that's zooming in, if you see the clearest video that hasn't been compressed five times on social media, it's clearly a human being in that window dropping something.
So this whole AI thing seems to be a catch-all now, where if you're not sure about something or if you want to deny something outright, you say it's AI.
I don't know that that's AI, just like I don't know that this boat is AI.
Drug-Running Boats Allegations 00:07:32
But what I do know is that this boat, even if it was real, in no way, shape, or form, could have had a significant amount of drugs on it.
It looked like, I mean, again, it looked like one of those drug-running boats that what they do, if those that are not familiar, they don't take the cargo all the way to the destination.
Instead, they'll leave a place like Venezuela or somewhere else in South America.
They'll go off the coast five or ten miles, and then they will release their drugs into the water, and they'll be on buoys or whatever.
They'll be floating.
They'll have a GPS tracker on them.
And then another boat comes and gets those drugs and then funnels them to a larger boat.
You know, I pointed out, and I'll show people this for those that are watching after the fact, that a boat like that, number one, it's not even going to make a dent in the drug trade.
But I always like to remind people that it was in 2019, and this happens much more than people realize.
Ships seized in $1.3 billion cocaine bust is owned by JPMorgan Chase.
Now, isn't that interesting?
Now, this is not a small little boat, okay?
This is a massive boat.
And if you adjust for inflation, that $1.3 billion in cocaine is probably $2 billion in cocaine.
It was also connected to a very prominent family.
Neither J.P. Morgan nor that prominent family was ever prosecuted.
Instead, eight of the crew members were prosecuted.
And this is what happens more often than not.
If I really believed, okay, that the United States government was out in the Caribbean Ocean because they're going to stop the drug trade, I might be for this.
But that's not real.
You know, I was discussing this on one of the Marion Nafal debates that I get on.
And my friend David Pollock, he's an adamant conservative.
He's, yeah, we've got a president that's taking action.
And we went back to the Panamanian days and Noriega.
Now, I was just a little guy at this point, but I have this specific memory where I was at my father's for the weekend.
My parents were divorced.
And we had just surrounded Noriega.
And it was the big thing on the news, and they were playing the music and they were ready to get him.
And my father chimed in and he said, Good, let's get that son of a bitch.
What I did not know at the time is that my father was a low-level cocaine dealer who would be in and out of jail and eventually serve federal prison time for that crime.
Now, obviously, that creates a moral conundrum and a dilemma.
But then you find out later on, you know, I didn't find out at that time, but that Noriega was on the CIA payroll.
And you find out about Iran-Contra and the fact that the United States is dealing the drugs in many senses or using the profits from those drugs that they have shipped into the country for other black programs.
Now, if that were the only case, maybe, maybe, Aaron, you could give them the benefit of the doubt.
But fast forwarding to 9-11, one of the things that is not discussed in this country whatsoever is the fact that the Taliban in the late 90s had totally and completely eviscerated the opium trade in that region.
You know, love them or hate them.
They had taken that operation in their country and they had basically made it vanish.
As soon as we went in there, as soon as we went in there, okay, we immediately put somebody in called Hamid Karzai, who was a Chevron executive.
He was a guy that was very sympathetic.
Yeah, sympathetic to our oil needs, okay?
And guess what?
Venezuela has a whole bunch of oil.
How dare they?
Very, very resource-rich nation.
And so while we put Karzai in, we start guarding farms that are now producing opium.
Whereas Afghanistan was down to less than 5% of the global opium trade under the Taliban within about two years of the United States occupation, it was up to 90% of the world's opium.
There is a famous, and I mean famous clip out there that anybody can watch, and it is of Geraldo Rivera asking the U.S. military why they are guarding this opium farm.
You know, again, run by the Taliban.
And he explains, well, you know, it's their culture and we have to do it and we have to keep them safe from the warlords.
You know who the main warlord and drug dealer was in the region at that time?
It just happened to be Hamid Karzai's brother, Waleed Karzai.
Okay?
So now you're telling me that we go into a country that's not dealing heroin and it becomes uber heroin and we put somebody in power whose brother is at the head of that trade and our military is actually helping facilitate this.
Color me skeptical that we're out in the Venezuelan waters because we're upset at Maduro being a leftist dictator.
It's a great cover.
But the truth of the matter is we're there for the resources.
I don't know that blowing up a boat of five to 11 people, I'm hearing different things.
I'm hearing about eight people.
It's very hard to tell from the footage.
I don't know how much of a deterrent that is.
And I'll just say this.
If I really thought we were fighting the quote-unquote war on drugs and the policy of that war on drugs was actually something that you could measure and show people and things have gotten better, maybe I would have a different opinion.
But my opinion is fact-based.
And I know that that is inconvenient to talk about, that our government is at the heart of a lot of this drug dealing globally, but we are, Aaron.
And that's just the truth of the matter.
Well, I love that you were able to source everything, you know, as well as you do and just point this stuff out.
But, you know, we are in 1984, man.
Truth or lies, lies or truth.
We're making videos of fake things of famous people, politicians, Bill Gates, whatever.
It's, you know, probably not what you thought was coming, Mike, back in the 80s, watching cartoons, huh?
Well, as a younger man, 1984 was a long way away.
So is that song in the year 2025?
That's a weird song.
Yeah, you know, and then you've got Soylent Green.
And so there's all these things that science fiction, a lot of things that are in science fiction partially come true.
So, yeah, no, it's crazy.
Ukraine And Zelensky 00:15:54
The United States and all the world powers have always been manipulating to, you know, when we had the Iraq war, years before, we put Saddam Hussein in power and gave him military, Mike.
Then all of a sudden, 10, 15 years later, he's a bad guy.
Yeah.
And we got to take him out.
So, yeah, you start reading history, and then you start looking at history and 38, 39, and how Hitler invaded countries.
And I know you're not a big fan of Zelensky, but I am not.
But how do you say, let the aggressor take part of this?
That's all.
To save the rest of your people.
Well, let me just say this.
Let me jump in.
Okay.
So you look at somebody like Zelensky, okay?
And here's another great example of somebody who is an entertainer, turned politician, and the way he's able to get that successful political run is very much Westernized funding and promotion, whether that's from the United States or from NATO.
Now, since you've mentioned Saddam Hussein, remember, Saddam Hussein was put in power by people like George H.W. Bush back when he was the head of the Central Intelligence Agency and then becomes the vice president under Reagan for eight years and then the president for four more.
I mean, this guy is literally as black ops as you get.
And even he, during his tenure as the president, said not one more inch when it came to NATO, because originally NATO was there to oppose the Soviet Union and Russian power.
And NATO has completely and totally expanded to the point that they were predicting the quote-unquote Russian invasion of Ukraine, not because Russia was acting overtly aggressively,
because they had essentially surrounded them up to every single point that had gone far beyond that not one more inch and ran military drills until they finally goaded Putin into that initial strike.
And I'm not here to say historically what land is whose, but I can tell you this.
They haven't had an election for some time in Ukraine.
Those have been suspended.
Zelensky openly talked about that with Trump on camera at their last meeting.
And, you know, many of the people in that region do consider themselves Russian.
I would also say that that military conflict that we think is only a few years old would not have been able to be facilitated, not only without that NATO encroachment, but the direct involvement of the Central Intelligence Agency from 2014 on.
Early on, during the military conflict between Ukraine and Russia, they were taking videos down.
And one of those videos that they took down was Oliver Stone's Ukraine on Fire.
He had done a documentary series about the Central Intelligence Agency and their involvement in that area.
I would also point out that Ukraine has been a hotbed for globalism for some time.
I know that a lot of people have seen that famous clip of George Soros on 60 Minutes when he is asked about his past during World War II.
When he was actually an individual as a kid, he was a teenager at the time.
He had been brought in.
His family had given him to somebody who was a prominent German at the time.
And they would go in and they would take people's property.
I mean, he was part of the Roundup crew.
And he makes a comment on it.
He's like, this was actually a very happy time.
You're young.
You're arrogant.
Yada, yada, yada.
What they don't tell you about that clip is if you watch that whole 60 Minutes piece, George Soros in 98 or 99 is going to the Ukraine with Hillary Clinton.
Okay, so they've been involved in backrooms and backdoor policy.
When I say they, I'm talking about this pervasive globalism that tries to push you into NATO, into the European Union, and quite frankly, under the consolidation of global governance.
Does any of this mean that Putin is a good guy?
Absolutely not.
That is not what this means.
What it does mean is that you have opposing power structures that are extremely real.
I don't know if you caught that hot mic clip.
Now, you know, obviously, I don't speak Russian or Mandarin, but recently Putin was caught on a hot mic with Xi Ji Ping, where they were talking about immortality and essentially utilizing younger organs and transplants to try to live not only longer, but forever.
These people are completely psychopathic.
I mean, I don't know what else to say.
I'm happy with mine.
You know, I've talked to a few old people, and it comes to a point where they're like, I'm ready to go.
I'm good.
I'm good.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, especially with what's in the future.
Yeah, it definitely makes you worry.
But I found it hilarious that a couple, three days ago, Putin said that him and President Trump had come to a mutual understanding on Ukraine.
And then I think it's the next day he invites Zelensky to a private meeting.
What are the odds Zelensky comes out of that meeting alive?
I'd say 0.00.
And one other just little feather on Ukraine, that's where the Pritzker family's from.
Isn't that something?
That's something.
They got a good look, that Pritzker family.
I mean, very healthy people.
Yeah.
We were deep in the weeds of Jason Furbit.
That's a good singer right there.
Oh, boy.
Yes.
One of the things I did definitely want to talk about before the segment is over is all of this new Epstein information that we may or may not be getting.
What we did get from the DOJ earlier this week was just absolutely ridiculous in every sense of the word.
And why do I say that?
Because they didn't even put together PDF files of the massive amount of documentation that has already been released and already in PDF format.
So the big headline was that 33,000 pages had been released.
Aaron, they released each page individually as a JPEG.
Okay.
That is asinine.
That is on purpose.
And it just shows that these people really, really do not want the vast majority of the documents and the information to come out.
Now, we had that interview with Ghelane Maxwell and the DOJ.
I would encourage people to actually read it and go beyond the headlines.
There were some really interesting nuggets there.
For instance, Maxwell does not deny that her father was an intelligence agent or asset, talks about his time in British intelligence after World War II, and then talks about being in those circles and around those people, but having no direct knowledge.
She also talked about how at one point she was on a kidnap and kill list.
And this was prior to her father dying.
And I say dying because some will say he committed suicide by jumping off his boat, the Lady Ghelane.
Others will say that he was actually murdered.
Now, aside from this documentation that was released by the DOJ that included the Ghelan Maxwell interview they'd already released and all these older documents, it does seem like there may be some very minuscule new stuff.
There allegedly is a video of the Little St. James raid, the One Island raid.
We had had a video of the Palm Beach raid.
We still don't have the video of the New York raid that we know exists.
And look, we had some of the victims hold a press conference the day after this DOJ release.
Some of these victims had never spoken publicly before, but they did so with an individual by their side, their lawyer, Bradley Edwards, that I think is very much worth noting.
Now, Brad Edwards represents at least 200 of the victims.
I want that to sink into people.
Everybody thinks they have a beat on this case, and yet from all the documentation, even if you are as rabid as Jason Burmes, you really only have, you know, maybe a dozen or so, two dozen tops actual accounts of people that are named or named as Jane Doe.
What does that tell me?
That you have literally another, you know, 150, 200, maybe even more victims that we have not seen the documentation on.
Now, Bradley Edwards, who represents these women, had previously stated that he had the black book that was published by Nick Bryant.
Many people are aware of this black book.
And he called everybody in that black book.
He alleges that nobody contacted him back except for Donald Trump and Donald Trump's people and that they were extremely helpful.
Now, I bring that up because Bradley Edwards was by the side of these victims that he continues to represent, and he went on Anderson Cooper.
Now, the clip's like four and a half minutes long, and I know we're kind of tailing out here, so I'm not going to play the clip, but anybody can go check it out or check it out on my ex.
I'll show it here for those that are watching the program.
But he discusses how, you know, not only does he not understand what Trump is doing, but he was in contact with him.
And from the files that he has seen, there is nothing of a criminal nature via Donald Trump.
So that leads him to one conclusion, that there are other things in the files that he has been advised need to be kept secret.
Bradley Edwards also states that perhaps there are files even he has not been privy to, despite the fact that he has represented all of these women and actually won in court against Epstein.
And what do I mean by won in court against Epstein?
So because Bradley Edwards was such a prominent lawyer and had taken on so many of these women's cases, Epstein immediately started a slander campaign, a whisper campaign, and went after Edwards and sued him for defamation.
So went after the lawyer.
Now, Edwards took it all the way to court.
It got to the point where they had selected a jury and they were ready to start this civil trial.
Epstein bent the knee.
He gave out a carefully crafted statement in which he admitted that he had done wrong to Bradley Edwards and Bradley Edwards had essentially done his job to the best of his ability.
And he also paid Bradley Edwards an undisclosed amount of money.
So I ask everybody, if the guy that is representing 200, 200 of the victims beat Jeffrey Epstein in a court of law, I would put more value into what he said than many of the others.
And Bradley Edwards also, let me see if I can pull this one up.
Maybe I'll be able to do that.
When he won this case against Epstein, he actually stood, and yes, there it is right there.
So, again, if you are watching this, Bradley Edwards right here is next to his lawyer, and in the background, what we're seeing here is boxes stacked four to five high and probably 15 across with the documentation just in the Bradley Edwards case alone.
So, I would posit that if we were actually to get the Epstein files, we would get every single one of those documents amongst a multitude of others.
And unfortunately, I just don't see that happening.
And Aaron, it's crazy.
You know, right here in Davenport, I was driving down Kimberly a couple weeks ago, and they got one of those new fandangled billboard signs that changes up, right?
It's the electric billboard sign, and they've got a picture of Donald Trump and Epstein, and you know, a whole thing about how Marionette Miller-Meeks doesn't want the Epstein files out, et cetera, et cetera.
So, it's on billboards in the Midwest.
And then, even last night, I was watching some of the YouTubins, and guess what?
One of my ads was, again, this ad in the Midwest based at Marionette Miller-Meeks on the Epstein files and how the Epstein files now need to be released.
So, this has almost become a partisan issue.
It certainly, whether the mainstream like it or not, has become a mainstream issue that has penetrated the public conscious consciousness in a manner that most issues have not.
And I think that we have to continue to push forward.
The family, or I'm sorry, the victims have come out and said that they will be compiling their own quote-unquote list of people that abused them.
Again, I'm very hesitant when people talk about the quote-unquote Epstein client list because he was not running a brothel.
He was using these women as tools to curry favor and blackmail individuals.
And we had politicians come out yesterday, including Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Of course, Thomas Massey has been very good on this issue.
Marjorie Taylor Green says, Look, these people are extremely powerful.
And if these women name these people, they could be sued into oblivion, have their entire lives turned up on their head.
And she said, Look, I'm not afraid to name them.
She goes, I will go on the congressional floor with the list that they give me, and I will name those names on the congressional floor.
So, whether or not that happens, I don't know, but I am certainly looking forward to where it goes from here and whether or not we see new names, and those names are entered into the public record on the congressional floor.
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We still there?
Hey, man, y'all, y'all good?
Yeah, I don't know what happened there.
I didn't even realize I dropped.
Oh, really?
No, I had no idea.
I got a text from Todd, and I sat here and ranted for five more minutes.
I texted you too.
I was like, hey, what happened?
And that's weird, dude.
Yeah, no, I have no idea.
I didn't even get a thing from my Zoom that I'm calling in that I'm paying for.
Thank you, Zoom.
You rock.
Yeah, what the hell?
Well, at what point did my rants stop?
You were talking, you literally were saying Jelene Maxwell and Epstein, and then Burp, you just got, you got clipped off.
Okay, well, let's fix that.
So, I guess I will go on this rant and rave again in these last 10 minutes.
So, we didn't get to the family member, or I'm sorry, the victims holding a press conference or Bradley Edwards, the lawyer?
Yes, yeah, you were talking about that guy.
Okay.
Yeah, you were talking about that guy.
Okay, so did we show the document?
Did I mention the amount of documentation that Bradley Edwards actually has?
You were talking about how many girls there actually are versus, you know, what we know about.
Sure.
Let's go back on right now.
All right.
All right, we actually are back with Jason Burmese.
He's okay.
The guys in the dark glass jackets apparently didn't get him.
We don't know what happened, though, which is odd.
Very odd.
Never really had that one go like that before.
But Jason, you're back with us.
Please finish up.
We were kind of talking about, you were talking about the attorney for the victims and how in the Jelaine Maxwell Epstein situation and how we know about, we have like depositions for like 15 or 20 of them, but there's actually 150 plus more.
And then that's kind of where you got cut off, I think.
Okay, thank you so much.
So Bradley Edwards beat Jeffrey Epstein in court.
So essentially, because he was representing so many of these women, Epstein not only sued him, but started a whisper campaign.
And Bradley Edwards won in court.
It went as far as basically they had chosen the jury, and then Epstein bent the knee, had to put out a statement about Bradley Edwards, and then gave him an undisclosed amount of money.
Now, for those watching at home, I want to show you the amount of documentation that Bradley Edwards had presented in that case and was ready to roll with.
You're looking at Edwards with his lawyer in front of boxes four to five high and about 15 across.
Now, of course, we have not seen all that documentation.
As I stated before, what they just released was laughable.
It was, you know, these 30 plus thousand actual scans.
But we also had some of the victims come forward for the first time, okay?
And we also had them say that they are going to compile a list of the men that actually did abuse them.
Now, I want to make this extremely clear.
I have in the past.
There is no quote-unquote client list in the sense that Jeffrey Epstein was running some kind of underage brothel or pimping out women in that sense.
No, he was using these women to blackmail and curry favor with people that he was cutting deals with, doing business with, or wanted to compromise, which is a very, very different thing.
Now, Marjorie Taylor Green came out and basically said that if these women put together a list, it is very dangerous for them to name these names as they are some of the most rich and powerful people in the world, and she fears that they will be sued into oblivion.
So what she's claiming she's going to do is she's going to allow these victims to put together a list and then she is going to take that list and read it on the congressional floor.
Now, whether or not that happens, we shall see.
Whether or not there are any new names in there, we shall see.
But this story is going absolutely nowhere, Aaron, to the point where, you know, a couple weeks ago, I was driving down Kimberly, and they had one of those new fan-dangled billboards that changes the digital billboards.
And on that digital billboard, we have Epstein with Trump and an attack on Marionette Miller-Meeks.
Last night, when I'm watching YouTube, yet again, the Epstein files come up.
They're attacking Marionette Miller and Meeks.
Has become a mainstream issue that has pierced the public consciousness like very few other issues ever have, Aaron.
Yeah, considering, you know, Marionette Miller-Meeks has nothing to do with either.
You know, I mean, she, I'm sure, I'm going to bet she's never met Epstein or any of that.
They're just, they're throwing his face with other politicians.
They're using it as their political fire because we're coming into election season, and this is going to be one midterm that I'd say everybody probably better strap on their big boy pants because it's going to get rowdy.
This certainly is one of those issues.
And let me say this about Bradley Edwards.
I don't think that it came across.
I forgot that, you know, we got cut off.
He went on Anderson Cooper with one of the victims last night.
And this is a guy that in a previous interview with my friend Derek Brose had talked about how he got the black book.
And he had contacted everybody in that black book.
The only person that contacted him back was Trump and Trump's attorneys.
Now, he claims in this Anderson Cooper interview that Trump is not implicated criminally in anything that he's seen.
And of course, again, he's represented 200 plus of these victims and he's seen the files because he's part of the files.
And he basically said it like this.
He goes, look, I don't know why Donald Trump doesn't want to release these.
None of them implicate him.
So obviously it's somebody else that's talking to him or something else.
And he also says, and perhaps there are other files that I haven't even seen.
And if that's the case, then there's much more to this case than even I can bring to the table.
All of that is important to think about because again, people that are sexually assaulted, the vast majority never come forward.
There is some indication, especially in this case, you know, they always call these women quote-unquote survivors.
Well, there is a good indication in this case that many of these girls and women over the years did not survive and are no longer with us.
So unfortunately, not only is this Epstein case not going anywhere, my guess is that it is only going to continuously get darker as to where that darkness actually goes and whether or not there's any accountability is anybody's guess.
Unfortunately, with the names that have already been out in the public arena for well over a decade at this point, whether it be a Prince Andrew or an Ehud Barak or a Bill Clinton, these people are above the law.
And I hate to say it like that, but we can't sit here and suck our thumbs and be children and act like we're all treated equally.
And there isn't a certain class of people that does whatever they want.
There are.
It is called the predator class and their minions.
And if you are involved with Epstein on that level, you are more than likely one of them.
Yeah.
I wonder what happened to all those other girls.
Can't imagine.
Don't really want to actually imagine.
But another great hour deep in the weeds with Jason Burmese.
We didn't even get to 9-11, man.
We didn't even get to it.
Now, I want to remind everybody, I did while we were waiting to get back on with you here.
River City's Reader cover this month talks all about the event that you're headed to in Washington, D.C. for 9-11 this coming week.
You're going to be calling us live from D.C. next Friday.
So really looking forward to that.
And as always, man, I got to screw my head back down after he spun it off.
Another great day of great information.
Well, thank you so much.
And for those that can maybe make it to D.C., it is called Turning the Tide, 9-11 Justice in 2025.
It is a three-day event, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, Thursday, 9-11.
I will be hosting that event that includes U.S. Senator Ron Johnson, former Representative Kurt Weldon, who brought us the Abel Danger information, former U.S. Rep Dennis Kucinich, who actually tried to impeach the Bush administration with 30-plus articles, three of which were involving 9-11.
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John Keriaku, the CIA whistleblower that blew the whistle on torture and waterboarding.
Clayton Morris, who's going to be the live stream host all three days from the Redacted program, family members like Matt Campbell and Bob McIlvain, Richard Gage from Architects and Engineers for 9-11.
Truth, you actually had to leave that organization and ic911.org is the new one.
Ted Walter and so many others.
I hope that you can come down.
I'm very much looking forward to it.
And the point of this is that on the 24th anniversary of 9-11, maybe we can start gaining enough momentum that into the 25th anniversary, we can either get a new independent investigation or some type of real accountability.
Because unfortunately, Aaron, not only have we been lied to massively about September 11th, but to this day, the vast majority of our foreign and domestic policy is based around that narrative lie that we were sold on via that fateful day.
Yes, sir.
All right.
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