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We're going to be talking about the Trump administration 2.0.
Is it still a school world order and beyond?
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You can find my guest book, School World Order, over at schoolworldorder.info.
John, thank you so much for joining us.
Now, John, you are an acolyte, if you will, of Charlotte Iserby.
And, you know, she was very critical of the establishment 10, 20, really, you know, several decades ago.
We've been in this progression cycle.
You've written about it in school world order.
First of all, where do you think we are today?
And I know that we have all this, you know, I guess, media coverage that, you know, Trump has saved the day yet again on the education system.
The trans stuff is out, blah, Sure, there's some headway there, but certainly the technocratic aspects have just pushed forward.
So what are your thoughts on this administration, education, and where we seem to be moving into?
Yeah, so one of the things we could start with is, you know, there was all these announcements that we're going to abolish the Department of Education, dismantle the Department of Education.
Several times there were these big news reports that there's going to be an executive order coming to abolish the Department of Education.
Well, I don't know if anybody's been paying a lot of attention, but still got a Department of Education.
So certainly didn't abolish it.
Dismantle, maybe you could use that word because if you dismantle something, right, you're kind of busting it up into pieces, but it's still sitting there.
So the executive order that they signed did enable them to curtail certain programs and some of that dovetailed with his sort of assault on all the DEI stuff.
But government education is not going away and it's going to dovetail with the school choice movement.
So that's one of the things that Charlotte Thompson Iserby warned about.
So one of the things she's most famous for other than her three books, the most famous of which is The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America, would be her time in the Reagan administration.
And so she worked in the Department of Education as the senior policy advisor in the Office of Educational Research and Improvement.
And she found a computer ed tech project called Project Best, Basic Education Skills Through Technology.
And essentially what it was, I've written extensively about it in my book, and I've written about it at Unlimited Hangout as well.
But it was a plan to set up public-private partnerships between Department of Education, big tech companies in order to facilitate computerized learning through operant conditioning algorithms, basically the digital version of B.F. Skinner's teaching machines geared towards workforce training in a planned economy.
And she warned that, you know, and part of that was, you know, the public-private partnerships.
Well, you know, today we call that stakeholder capitalism.
And so you can basically think of school choice as like stakeholder capitalism for schools.
And one of the things that she warned about with the school choice movement was that it's going to be the end of simultaneously elected representative governance at the local level in terms of education, but it's also going to get rid of private education in terms of whether it be homeschooling or religious or just parochial private schools, because it's going to bring with the voucher system, that's going to bring government strings attached to anybody that takes these vouchers.
We might call the education savings accounts and the tax credited scholarships neo-vouchers, but they're all basically the same thing.
You're taking public tax dollars and you're sending it to families so that they can purchase.
They could purchase tuition at maybe a charter school or maybe a private school, could be maybe another public school, but can also be educational technology products, ed tech services, therapies and tutoring, which can be facilitated through generative AI at this point.
So in turn, what happens is, you know, essentially, if, well, when we looked at the charter school movement, what she was concerned was that charter schools don't have elected boards.
They have corporate boards and they're appointed.
So you wouldn't have any civil process there.
And she thought that that would be sort of the first step towards eroding sort of local governance at large.
One of the things that, and I sort of took that premise in my book, but one of the things that I think I missed in the book was the implications of the vouchers and the ESAs.
And so this is another way that you can sort of do a runaround on the civil process for local education, because if you're just taking public funds and you're putting them in these digital baskets for the students, all they're going to do is purchase these ed tech products.
They could be buying products from companies that don't even operate in the United States.
So I mean, like, not only have you bypassed the locally elected school board, you've bypassed, you know, even the national education system and you've integrated a global ed tech system.
So partnerships.
Let's talk about some of that because when you're talking about ed tech, you're really talking about the current technologies, if you will, that are going to be purchased, processed, and instituted in all of these schools, whether they're private, public, et cetera.
WEF's Role in EdTech00:14:58
A great example of that would be the Chromebook movement, right?
There's probably not a public school system, unfortunately, in the country that doesn't utilize Chromebooks at this point, which is kind of maddening, especially because Google, I don't know if you saw it, but just won that antitrust case where they know they don't, not that I thought they were going to be broken up, but nope, we don't have to break up the biggest technopoly in the world.
So when we talk about those purchases of EdTech, you also mentioned artificial intelligence.
That's the next big buzzword.
In fact, a lot of these new Chromebooks have the AI chips in them.
What kind of technologies, aka products are you seeing in this movement right now being streamlined into the system?
Because you're also an adjunct professor.
So you're seeing it on the collegiate level, but I would assume that you're also keeping up in it with the high school, middle school, and even elementary school kids.
Yeah.
So, you know, the book sort of laid out, you know, the book is close to six years old now.
All right.
And, you know, actually, I started writing it several years before that.
So a lot of the research is getting close to a decade, you know.
And so I basically laid out a progression of various ed tech devices that sort of evolve and are integrated through machine learning to basically build the generative AI that we have now.
So those would be like adaptive learning courseware, which is data mining cognitive behavioral or thinking algorithms.
Then they have like wearables, social emotional learning, biofeedback wearables.
They can data mine anything from heart rate, brainwaves, galvanic skin response.
Some of them use facial recognition to infer emotions.
And those algorithms, they have, these have been around for quite a while at one of the schools where I teach at the, I don't know if they call it the wellness center, the counseling center.
You can use heart math, heart math to help you with your test anxiety.
And, you know, what I laid out in the book was that when they anonymize the algorithms from the learning metrics, so they have, there's something called UII and PII, user interaction information, personally identifiable information.
They remove the PII.
They're allowed to take the UII, take all those algorithms and aggregate them through machine learning and neural networks to create the types of tutor bots that we have that come out of like OpenAI and Khan Academy, known as Khan Migo.
And so essentially, at this point, like all of the adaptive learning stuff and all of the social emotional biofeedback stuff can be built into the generative AI bots that companies like OpenAI and Khan Academy are utilizing.
And I can give you an example of one that's actually taking my hours as we speak, about half of my tutoring hours.
There's a company called Upswing.
And this thing, not only does it do tutoring, it'll help it'll help the students with like daily scheduling and thing, but it also does mental health.
Okay, so this is also, I set the premise that, or I posed the question, like, well, aren't some of those FERPA records and aren't some of those HIPAA records?
Like, so the bot is already like playing fast and loose with like how we're supposed to categorize this data.
But what this thing does is it's also hooked up to, or it's funded by a bunch of social impact investment companies and a bunch of venture capital firms.
So for social impact investment, I think we talked about it in the last one, but a lot of the scholarship granting organizations that hand out these Neo vouchers, they are impact organizations.
And basically what Hobbes works is one of the mechanisms is called pay-for-success.
So basically you have an impact investment company.
It puts money up front to help a student achieve certain outcomes.
And then based on whether they achieve those outcomes, they can get money back from the government.
They can even make a profit.
So basically what this company does, and if you look at it, you know, on the dashboard of the company, it brags about how it has all of these different metrics for individual learning institution-wide by group.
So, you know, race, gender, age, you know, zip code, socioeconomic background.
And essentially, what you're seeing is the rise, not just of this new school choice system, but this new social impact investment economy.
And that's the incentive for why one of my schools is going with this company, because they get the data.
And, you know, it's not just that it's cheaper, right?
Because the tutors are cheaper than paying us humans hourly, but it's that it's going to bring money in for grants.
So the institution can go, look, we've got all this data that says that, right, we help these students achieve these outcomes.
And this particular school is actually in a relatively impoverished neighborhood, predominantly Black.
So right, ESG scoring goes up for servicing these students.
Actually, a lot of the companies are Black owned.
So that makes the ESG score go up.
But essentially, it works that you need the AI to get the data because to scale that data, you can't do that with spreadsheets.
So you need the AI to get the data and you need the data to get the impact investment dollars.
But the impact investment firm needs the data in order to get the money from the government.
And so like it's not just a school choice thing.
This thing is part of a broader economic shift that dovetails with the emerging digital wallet and blockchain stablecoin industry as well.
So let's talk about this ESG movement.
You know, again, a lot of people think because the Trump administration is in there, this kind of equity, sustainability and governance movement is gone, but it's not.
In fact, it's still moving full throttle.
One of the things that really hasn't been discussed now this administration is back in there is the World Economic Forum.
There was a big hoop law and a lot of people backpadding on the victory that Klaus Nutschwab had stepped down as the head of the World Economic Forum.
Well, guess who just stepped into his place?
Good old Larry Fink of BlackRock.
When we talk about institutions like BlackRock, a lot of people are concerned not only about the private businesses that they own and the housing that they own, but they are also integral into this new global education system, are they not?
Yeah, well, they just signed an agreement with the American Federation of Teachers to actually set curriculum explicitly.
And this is basically dovetails with at the same time, the American Federation of Teachers.
It's the second largest teachers union in the United States.
Might even be the second largest union, period.
And they also announced a partnership with Open AI to train, I don't know how many 100,000 teachers to basically learn how to onboard AI into their classrooms.
And, you know, I wrote a long series, I think it's four or five article series at Unlimited Hangout about how the National Education Association, the NEA and the AFT, have both been in bed with the EdTech industry for decades.
And many of the people that are high up in the AFT and the NEA belong to something called Education International, which is a global union federation.
And several of the people that are part of that GUF, that GUF, are members of the World Economic Forum.
So the WEF has had its tentacles in the EdTech industry for quite some time.
And, you know, the piece that I most recently wrote, there's a lot of WEF connections to the digital wallet companies that are going to facilitate or being pushed to facilitate the NEO vouchers.
So one is Class Wallet, and that partner is funded by a subsidiary of Lazard Inc.
That's a World Economic Forum partner.
You've got SAP Araba, so the parent company is a World Economic Forum partner, and that company itself partners with IBM and Amazon, both World Economic Forum partners.
Odyssey and Merit International are funded by Andreessen Horowitz, and his portfolio is all wrapped up with Fiel stuff.
FEAL, if people don't know, is World Economic Forum.
Sam Altman, head of OpenAI, is World Economic Forum.
And one more company called Student First Technologies partners with MasterCard.
I think MasterCard might be WF as well.
But it's got this Theodore platform that, quote, empowers stakeholders.
So, you know, all that, all the shifts you're seeing are, I guess we could say, rhetorical at best.
So when we talk about, I guess when we say World Economic Forum, and you mentioned this blockchain technology, one of the things that they put out there into the public arena when they were talking about blockchain and CBDC before The COVID-19 44 nightmare,
quite frankly, and before people were really paying attention, XRP was one of those coins that they were really floating as a CBDC, and it's kind of made a comeback.
Had some problems with the Security and Exchange Commission, dusted those under the rug.
And now you see XRP kind of exploding.
You also mentioned Altman.
Altman has his own coin, the world coin, based in your digital biometrics.
What do you think is next in the realm?
You mentioned a couple stable coins, USDT instead of USDC.
And I know that I'm speaking Spanish to some people right now.
But what a CBDC essentially means is a centralized digital currency that is blockchainable and tokenizable.
And outside of that, that's about it.
A lot of people don't understand because there's a lot of talk of Bitcoin right now and obviously the explosion there and its price that Bitcoin, although not perfect, is a different animal than something like an XRP.
When whereas Bitcoin must be mined and there is a limited amount at the end of the day, XRP is not mined.
There is no limited amount.
It is essentially an extension of what is known as a special drawing rights unit or digital currency by the IMF that is created out of nothing and honed in at zeros and ones.
This is an extension of that into the blockchain under all these different flavors.
So can you expand upon that and what it's going to be utilized?
What push you see in these quote-unquote wallets, exchanges in that arena of EdTech, and especially what you recently wrote about in your latest?
Yeah, so I mean, maybe I'll touch on two things.
One is the broader incentive for stablecoin creation and usage in the broader global economy.
And then we can zoom in on the implications for that in terms of the neo-voucher system and ed tech, et cetera.
So, you know, stable coins are in many ways just as bad as, I mean, they have all the bad things that CBDs have in the sense that they're programmable and trackable and traceable and stuff like that.
But the reason why I think they went for stable coins as opposed to CBDCs is that stable coins have to be backed dollar for dollar with either treasury notes or bills or something of that nature.
So in other words, in order for a company or depository institution to create a stable coin, it has to purchase enough treasury notes or bills to back that, which means, in other words, in order to buy this, in order to facilitate the stablecoin, companies have to prop up the dying dollar.
And so in other words, this is one of those transitory moments where it still has to be based in the current fiat of paper currencies and our Federal Reserve banking system, etc.
But it's in that next step right now.
So for those that don't know, what is it?
USDC is basically Goldman Sachs, is it not?
I don't know if that's the bad, if that's who's behind that.
Gotcha.
USDC.
I don't have any notes on USDC in front of me.
But the other incentive is that, okay, like especially in terms of international transactions and large amounts of money, you can bypass the Swift system by using these stable coins.
So that makes things cheaper.
So there's the incentive there.
But it's all ultimately in the broader scheme, the rise of stablecoins is an effort to prop up the dollar hegemony and everything that comes along with that geopolitically.
And basically to inflate a new bubble for us to buy some time and inflate into.
How does that come down to the ed tech industry?
Basically, what I'm seeing is in the first piece that I wrote this year, I largely focused on how these school choice Neo vouchers are being pushed by sort of the old school Republican institutions, the neoconservative and Beltway Libertarian Coke Brothers-backed state policy network think tanks.
And the digital wallet industry is sort of emerging out of sort of the Silicon Valley kind of futurist arm of the right-wing movement, so to speak.
And so what we're seeing here with the rise of this new global stablecoin blockchain crypto economy, we're also in the rise of the public-private stakeholder capitalism at large, but also in education.
So we have a convergence of essentially the Silicon Valley futurist arm of the right-wing oligarchy with the quote-backed state policy network think tanks.
And so all the companies or several of them that I just mentioned, so I think I mentioned student-first technologies, SAP Araba, Class Wallet, there's a couple others like Odyssey and Merit International.
These companies and their digital wallets, which are being going to be pushed to facilitate the no voucher transactions, they've either been pushed by those, some of the think tanks behind Project 2025 or otherwise adjacent to Project 2025 or its offers.
Big Beautiful Bill00:08:48
So this would be like Excel and Ed, American Enterprise Institute, Cato Institute, EdChoice, Heritage Foundation.
But then the companies themselves are actually funded by venture capital firms that are either, you know, someone like Andreessen Horowitz is not PayPal Mafia, but, you know, he was on the board of directors of eBay, which merged with PayPal early on in its sort of development.
And if you look at his Andreessen Horowitz portfolio, it's intertwined with founders fund.
I mean, they have common investments.
If you look at the overlaps in these venture capital firms, and so basically what you're seeing, what you see is, you know, those two arms of the right-wing establishment pushing these digital wallets, the argument is that it's supposed to, this is the mantra nowadays, it's supposed to prevent waste, fraud, and abuse, right?
So if you give these accounts, because the accounts go to the families and they can pick a range of products and services, right?
So it's not just like the old school vouchers was like, here's money for tuition.
Pretty easy, right?
It can only go to one place.
Well, in order to scale that and track and trace and make sure that people don't spend money inappropriately, the digital wallet company becomes this third-party servicer.
And if you look at the last three companies that I break down in the article, Merit International, Student First Technologies, and SAP Araba, between the three of them, they have a digital identity ecosystem.
They have a Quinn IQ AI human in the loop machine learning platform.
This is the one that empowers stakeholders.
And then SAP Araba, which provides fintech services to other companies, a wide range, but it provides everything from blockchain to AI to EFG monitoring.
So with those three companies, if you were to either synthesize them or have each of them branch out in similar directions, what you essentially have is, you know, through public-private partnerships, you have this digital wallet system that is going to funnel stable coins.
They're going to be programmed only for particular ed tech products and services, et cetera.
And then AI is going to extract those analytics.
And then it's going to, you know, again, that money is going to go into the impact investment economy.
And that's going to create sort of this feedback loop that's going to direct the student to particular career pathways to fulfill these quotas in the planned economy.
So, with this movement, you just mentioned waste, fraud, and abuse.
This administration came in hot, like you said, with Doge, and we were cutting this and we were cutting that.
We're going to go into Fort Knox.
We're going to live stream it.
At the same time, you certainly have seen Trump's frustration with the Federal Reserve banking system.
You just saw the firing of one of the local Fed heads.
That's pretty unprecedented.
Been pretty unhappy with Powell.
But you did mention PayPal Mafia.
You mentioned Teal.
What is the future of money in this administration?
Because we've seen the Bitcoin coin hoorah.
We've seen the Doge hoorah, but now it's been pulled back.
We're pretty early in this second administration.
We're not even midterms.
You know what I mean?
I'm sure there'll be some rhetoric there.
But as far as currency, education, the blockchain, what can we expect in the next 18 months, in your opinion?
You know, I mean, as they begin to onboard stablecoins, I wonder if you'll even notice it a lot.
Like, so, you know, let's say you have a bank account at JPMorgan Chase.
JPMorgan Chase is making its own stablecoin.
You know, if you're using a debit card all the time, there's no reason why they wouldn't be able to basically change the unit that you're transferring with your debit card from whatever we classify this fiat digital dollar that we've all been using.
We don't use, you know, it's essentially digital money when you're not using actual paper currency.
You know, they could reprogram that so that it's a stable coin and you probably wouldn't know the difference.
But as far as like public funds, it's not just so something like a company like Class Wallet got a big boon during lockdowns to facilitate the emergency funds to schools.
Okay.
But it's also, if you go to their website, it's looking into, and they might already be servicing some of these, but they're at least looking into distributing funds like from FEMA, so like disaster relief funds, housing vouchers for HUD, and then, you know, HHS, like block grant monies, or, you know, we might, they might become health tokens or something like that.
So, you know, you'll sort of have two things going on.
You're going to have a lot of private companies that are going to try to get in on the stablecoin, probably make their own stablecoin.
That's going to prop up the dollar.
But in the meantime, as far as on the public end or the government end, I'm pretty sure that we're going to quickly see all of their distribution systems turn into some form of a stablecoin distribution through some digital wallet company.
So, as far as the big beautiful bill goes and the budget funding, et cetera, where is that moving into the education arena?
Of course, we've already talked about artificial intelligence.
We've talked about a lot of this technology.
We also talked about Doge.
Obviously, that was the huge split with the Muskernuts, and Trump was this bill.
And let me say this: you know, as far as the little guy in certain scenarios, the no tax on tips for the first 20,000, awesome.
I know there's a lot of people crying about cuts to Medicaid, but you talk about real waste, fraud, and abuse.
I mean, the entire medical system in our country really needs to be revamped.
It's all about ripoffs, whether it's state-run or not.
What does or doesn't this bill do via the education system monetarily?
Well, so in the big beautiful bill, okay, what I had laid out in the first piece that I published, I believe it was early February, the two main provisions for school of choice innovations in Project 2025 were they wanted to convert Title I funds to education savings accounts, one of those types of NEO vouchers.
And then they also wanted to pass a bill called the ECCA, so it's Educating Children for Choice Act or something like that.
And that one was going to facilitate NEO vouchers known as scholarships through these tax-credited scholarships through these scholarship granting organizations.
Those are the impact investment companies I mentioned earlier, or a lot of them.
So in the Big Beautiful bill, what they did was they basically rammed through a weird monstrosity combination of the two, which in some ways combines the worst parts of both.
So for the ESAs, it was like a basket of money and you could get everything from curriculum materials, education therapies, personal tutors, et cetera, et cetera, right?
For the scholarship granting organizations, that was only going to be tuition for specific schools.
So now what they did was in the Big Beautiful bill, they put in a tax-credited scholarship program that's going to be distributed by an SGO.
But instead of it just going to tuition for private schools, religious schools, other schools, it can be used for all those other products and services that were going to be pitched for the ESAs, which means in the long run, they pitch it like, well, if you're stuck in a bad school district, you shouldn't be stuck there.
But if I live there, what am I going to do?
Drive 100 miles to another school, right?
Especially if I'm in an, you know, if I'm not in it, if I don't have a great school, probably don't have great property taxes, probably means I'm in a relatively poor neighborhood.
So what am I going to do?
What are my options to use that ESA scholarship voucher money?
It's going to be ed tech products and services that I can plug in at home or that I can supplement my education with.
So what this does is basically it's going to funnel all this money into the EdTech products that are necessary to data mine the students to produce the outcomes data necessary for the impact investment companies to get the reimbursement on their sponsorships.
Data Centers and Job Displacement00:03:14
And so that's, you know, so the big beautiful bill basically bypassed the formal legislative process for either of those two things by basically ramming in the writer.
You know, you keep talking about these ed tech products, especially ones that will be utilized at home.
Obviously, once again, the COVID-19 44 nightmare accelerated this tele-education movement that many in the military industrial complex, the big tech arenas have been talking about for decades, right?
And predicting for decades.
And now we're here.
One of the things that comes along with that are these AI data centers that are now popping up everywhere.
You know, I was pretty shocked to learn that they were trying to sneak one in that was relatively small, but large compared to others at 100, I think, in like 57 acres in upstate New York, right by the Baseball Hall of Fame, right by my old town in Oneana.
And, you know, right away, I saw a bunch of morons saying, oh, let's go, but great.
We're going to get jobs.
Like, I'm like, morons.
They're literally saying hundreds of jobs in these facilities.
You know who also provides hundreds of jobs?
The local Texas Roadhouse.
And meanwhile, in their iterations now, they are utilizing so much of the fresh water supply that it is impacting those around them.
And by the way, your power bill ends up going up and you get none of the benefits in some of these large-scale centers that are now being built.
They're actually not only floating the idea, but trying to push the idea of small nuclear reactors on site.
What are your thoughts on these AI data centers and how are they going to be impactful and integrated into this education system?
Well, I mean, they're obviously essential for all the data collection and then all the social credit analytics that come along with it.
I mean, just, you know, my mind immediately goes to when I see that, like, you know, sustainable, right?
You know, and when you see that, it almost, you know, it's hard not to speculate whether or not the whole doom and gloom of the environmental movement wasn't part and parcel with sort of knowing when we were going to get to this point in the evolution of AI.
I mean, if you go back to the Macy Cybernetics conferences in the 1940s, they laid out the theoretical implications and the basis for the feedback loop that is the basis of all AI.
They figured out Moore's laws not too long after that.
So they knew the rate at which the processors and the transistors were going to exponentially increase.
So they could basically more or less predict, you know, with rough, at least around the decade when we were going to not only have the hardware capabilities, but the processing capabilities to actually have all the data necessary to run a social credit panopticon.
And they might have done the math and go like, well, how much energy does that take?
Moore's Law Predictions00:02:18
Oh, all of it in the world.
Well, I guess we're going to have to, you know, we're going to have to funnel all of that into these data centers and we're going to have to come up with a reason to convince people to not use energy and hot water in your house and go back to a sort of like a dark ages, you know, for the ultimately for the sake of running these machines.
And obviously that's speculative, but you know, I mean, I don't know if it's that speculative.
Once again, if you look at the ludicrous mantra that your carbon footprint is everything, that you drive in an SUV and having a big home is making the environment bad and you're a bad person.
And look, even the predictions of fresh water shortages coming into the future and that our generation were sold on buying water to drink out of a bottle.
Remember, generation before that, folks, they didn't do it.
You used to have Lewis Black sitting there cracking jokes about bottled water.
Now, I mean, it's a staple.
John, number one, how can people support you?
What are you working on?
And what would you like to leave the audience with?
Well, you can check me out at schoolworldorder.info.
It's got all the social media and stuff there.
Book you can get from Trying Day.
There's a link to it at the website.
You can keep up with all of my recent stuff, either on X Talus Professor or at Unlimited Hangout.
And yeah, I guess, I mean, the only thing I could leave you with is, look, if you're going to, if you're in the homeschooling movement, don't take the ESAs, don't take the scholarships, don't take the vouchers.
It's going to come with strings attached.
Even if those strings are very minuscule right now, the totalitarian tiptoe is a real thing.
And in the meantime, you're going to be plugging in these AI products to basically be data mining your child and building social credit profiles.
So don't take the money.
That defeats the purpose of doing homeschooling.
John, thank you so much for joining us and thank you guys for watching this show.
Remember, it is not about left or right.
None of the issues we were just talking about right now were conservative or liberal.