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Machinery that gives abundance has left us in want.
We think too much and feel too little.
More than machinery.
We need humanity.
We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat.
As if that's the way it's supposed to be.
We know things are bad, worse than bad.
They're crazy.
You've got to say, I'm a human being!
God damn it.
My life has value.
You have meddled with the primal forces of nature.
Don't give yourselves to brutes.
Men who despise you, enslave you, who regiment your lives, tell you what to do, what to think, or what to feel, who drill you, diet you, treat you like cattle, use you as cannon fodder.
Don't give yourselves to these unnatural men.
Machine men with machine minds and machine hearts.
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Ha ha.
It is showtime.
It's time to buckle up for making sense of the madness.
And who loves you and who do you love?
Hey, everybody, Jason Burmes here, and I got a great show lined up for you today.
Now, we are creeping up ever so close to the 24th anniversary of 9-11.
And many of you now know that I'm actually going to be speaking in DC, hosting an event where we're going to have current Senator Ron Johnson, former Congressman Kurt Weldon, Dennis Kucinich on hand, Bob McIlvane, family member, people like Richard Gage, my good friend Luke Radowski, Clayton Morris of Redacted, and so many more.
And I'm really hoping through this event, and really, I would say the revival in the interest in 9-11.
After all, the Tuckens, Tucker Carlson on 9-11, is putting out a five-part series on the quote-unquote truth surrounding 9-11.
Finally, it has pierced the mainstream and the mainstream of the executive branch, if you will, with even people like Bobby Kennedy Jr., Trump himself having to make comments at the Live Golf Tournament and beyond.
So it's an issue that to me certainly is not and should not go away.
That's why, when my friend Adam Riva of DauntlessDialogue.com sent me his latest documentary in the Order Out of Chaos series, A Clean Break, I really couldn't wait to take a look at it.
And there's so much more over there.
Make sure to check them out over at DauntlessDialogue.com.
Adam, thank you for joining us.
Now, one of the things that I want to talk about kind of just out of the gates is not only are you a great documentary filmmaker, and if you're not a part of Dauntless Dialogue, go check out their free stuff first.
You're going to want to support this guy.
You pull out the archives, my friend.
You know me.
I'm a big show your work kind of guy.
And when I can see clips for the first time that haven't been recycled here and after over the past 20 plus years that I've been doing this on the internet, I'm extremely excited.
And not only did you open this film with a very strong segment about the creation of Israel itself from the perspective of the executive at the time, Harry Truman, but you continue throughout this documentary to pull up stuff from people like Philip Zelikow, who we have in the thumbnail, Netanyahu himself,
and those surrounding the larger Israeli, I would say, and neocon apparatus, which you also fundamentally highlight in this picture.
So I've droned on for the first few minutes, by the way.
Thumbs it up, subscribe, and share if you're new.
Adam, tell us about this series and part five right now and why it focuses not only on that cohesion, if you will, with this neocon slash Israeli movement, but its intricacies into 9-11 on the operation and the foreign policy that then kind of encompasses up until where we are today with Iran.
Yeah, Jason, thank you so much for having me on.
It's a pleasure to be here, man.
I am a guy who came up, you know, when 9-11 was getting exposed.
And it was one of the first big things that kind of rocked my world around like 2006, 2007.
I was doing on-the-ground activism at Ground Zero in the years of 09 and 10, maybe even 11.
I can't really recall.
But I was down there passing out DVDs, talking to people.
And so 9-11 has been with me throughout my journey.
And as you've mentioned, it's kind of making a resurgence now.
There's new people getting into the fight, coming out with documentaries.
You mentioned Tucker Carlson.
A buddy of mine, Brad Zerbo, just released Codex 9-11 about a week ago, which is catching some good traction on Rumble.
But there's new attention on it.
And every year for the anniversary, it's an opportunity for us to keep beating that drum and remind people.
Now, you brought up how I resurfaced some older clips.
That was a lot of fun.
I feel like a digital archivist or a digital archaeologist sometimes because I'll find a clip, but it's the same clip that's been recycled and copied and pasted a hundred times from 240p.
And guess what?
We got to go back to the original source material.
Sometimes that process takes hours, days to track down the original.
And that's in a digital world.
You know, I remember back in back in my day before we had the high definition or even the 480p on the internet, I was literally going through archives where you'd get like a short little, you know, thing on what maybe this news clip was.
If you were lucky enough, maybe something like Truman giving a speech, you would have the whole dialogue down, et cetera.
But then you kind of have to hope and pray that you were able to get something out of that video.
Same thing with like the C-SPAN archive is amazing.
I saw you utilizing that.
It's fantastic all online.
You can keyword search all that.
Basically, back in the day, you had a short synopsis and the event itself, and you had to order a DVD and you had to pay for that DVD to be burned and then sent to you.
It was literally like a two and a half, three week process.
I think I have some of those burned DVDs actually on 9-11 around here.
Maybe we'll pull them out and show the world what they look like.
But that was just unreal.
And even today, especially with the way this internet that was supposed to share all of human information has been relatively censored, especially around controversial subjects.
That's got to be tough, my friend.
Kudos to you.
Yeah, thank you, man.
People don't realize the lengths that we go through.
You're describing an even more laborious and frustrating process than what I've done, but it is a hunt.
You go on a hunt trying to find the original source material.
You want to get the highest quality, but you also want to make sure you're not clipping out extra context that might be useful.
And I believe in showing the original source material to basically make my case.
I don't have anything to hide and they shouldn't either.
So if we go back to that original source material, I think there's a stronger argument there.
Now, as you know, the Wayback Machine isn't perfect.
And so there's a lot of stuff that's even deleted off there.
So stuff gets lost down the memory hole and it makes our job a little bit more difficult trying to string together evidence from 20, 30 years ago.
And so, yeah, I think this particular installment in our Order Out of Chaos series is a powerful one.
The series attempts to kind of get at the who, the lingering who question, right?
And so that brings us up to Israel.
That's a major part of this film, the Mossad more specifically, Israeli intelligence.
And so we pull on that string and it brings us right back to the neocon party here domestically.
And those two things are kind of intrinsically connected.
And I even have a montage about halfway through where we kind of demonstrate just how compromised the American Congress and Senate is.
And I think that with that in mind, and then you reflect back on 9-11, it starts to all make a lot more sense now.
And you know what?
You even pull out the James Trafficant with that like possum on his head.
For those that don't know about James Trafficant, pretty outspoken politician, really one of the first to stand up to the Israeli lobby and one of the very few people in a very corrupt world to actually be charged with corruption and put in prison.
I just want to show people that's what you actually got.
That's Abel Danger hearings 2005.
Here's Ken Holden of FEMA right there.
Well, obviously you had to convert it because these were, you know, again, if you wanted to edit it, they aren't MPEG files, right?
They're actually burned to the DVD format.
So, yeah, man, it was a whole ripped, you know, the whole deal.
Like, editing wasn't like it is today where I have to sell my soul to Adobe every month and everything kind of works most of the time.
There was a ton of other equipment that went with it, but that's what you got and you paid a bit for it.
So let's shift into this because, you know, talk about Israel.
And, you know, you don't get into modern day Israel other than kind of talking about the policy with Iran.
But at the same time, I think the importance of showing Truman talking about the quote-unquote Arabs and the Jews and where they want to drive each other in this conflict and that the Jews want to drive them into the quote-unquote sea, it establishes this idea of a greater Israel from the inception.
You know, those that deny, especially the Netanyahu sect, that they want all of Palestine.
And really after October 7th, he was adamant.
I mean, if you didn't, I mean, there are boots on the ground in Gaza right now, but he was telling everybody, no two-state solution, no Hamas.
I don't know what anybody else thought that meant.
That meant no Palestine.
That's it.
And they're really trying.
I mean, it's it.
And they're trying to take it.
The issue beyond, right, like at the time, obviously when Palestine doesn't exist, he's talking five, six million people.
Think about this.
All that population growth we have, folks, what are we talking about today?
Two million people?
And there are some estimates that about 400,000 of those people are no longer with us.
You see the devastation.
That's not out of the realm of possibility.
So, I mean, over that time, we've got that.
But if they do get everybody else out, that 1.4 million or 2 million that are left, that's not the end of this project.
If you look at what greater Israel means, it is parts of Syria.
It is parts of Lebanon.
And also that heavy hitter we keep hearing about, Iran.
And you make it very clear in this that there are those working through policy networks, if you will.
You know, every once in a while, you throw out a name like the Trilateral Commission, right?
Etc.
Could you explain how that works?
Because a clean break, which this is named after, is really one of those policy papers that you point out here.
Yeah, so the gist of it is in 1996, there was a document that was authored for Netanyahu called A Clean Break.
And it goes, it basically lays out some policy goals for Israel, given that their peace treaties had repetitively failed again and again.
And so they found themselves in a situation where they resorted to spy craft and infiltration of America and leveraging other nations and all of these other things.
But they couldn't have gotten far if they didn't have a network here domestically to implement that.
And so that brings us to things like APAC and others.
And we go through, I think we list about 10 or 12 different groups here in America that act as the apparatus for implementation.
But of course, there's also this personnel implementation in the DOD and in the George W. administration.
And so there were a lot of players involved in this.
But what we attempt to lay out is that a lot of the American actions taken after 9-11 are inexplicable unless you take a look at a clean break and other such documents where it seems very much like the big takeaway is America is acting on the behest of Israel.
And again, we make the case pretty strongly, I would say, that right up to the present, everyone in our government, it seems like, is doing the bidding for Israel, whether they're raising money or, you know, sending dod arms over there it's just one big like well you know it's funny because you bring up one gun runner in there who also happens to be a drug dealer um
But one of the things that I'm constantly bringing up when we talk Epstein is the obfuscation that he was also an arms dealer, that the major arms scandal that we actually know about is Iran-Contra.
And again, it was the Israelis, Mark Rich, that were buying those weapons from Eastern Europe, then shipping them into Bolivia and then into South America for this plausible dynamic, plausible deniability circle.
And even in our Hollyweird circles, and I constantly bring this up, we have admitted gun runners, arms dealers, and Israeli spies.
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And the examples I often point to are Arnon Milken, huge produced, made a whole movie about it with Argo.
And then, actually, I don't know if you know this.
I know you're a Kubrick guy and eyes wide shut, but Sidney Pollack, who plays the Red Hood and the evil doctor guy, you know, that's with the hooker that overdoses.
Also, an arms dealer and Israeli spy.
I forgot all the hearings that we had on that and all the investigations.
I mean, people don't, I mean, these things are mentioned as an afterthought as though they're a positive, yet they're just a small, minutiae window into the scope of how this network actually operates.
Can you explain that, please?
Yeah, and I just also want to mention that this is the fifth installment in our Order Out of Chaos series.
Volume four, the one that came right before, is called Cyclone.
And so let's not forget that all the way back in the 80s, the CIA was providing arms and financing to the Mujahideen and basically propping up Osama bin Laden to be the future fall guy for 9-11.
And we have so many different advanced warnings coming from within and around the world.
And then our president and his cabal basically get on TV and they continue to repeat the lie, like Condoleezza Rice saying, there was no advanced knowledge.
It's like you guys not only armed and propped up everybody over there, you were also doing like tomahawk missile strikes on civilian targets, just fomenting so much anti-American hatred over there.
They're fomenting this chaos.
That's why we call it Order Out of Chaos.
So one of the players that you focus in on pretty early, and again, some of these clips were just fantastic, was an individual named Philip Zelikow.
And essentially, for those that don't know, you had the commission heads of Hamilton and Keene.
And in large part, they are the ones that did the press conferences, wrote the book together, slapped each other on the back, okay to comic book about 9-11 based on the commission hearing.
But the person that oversaw the whole shebango was actually Philip Zelikow.
And one of the most disturbing aspects that is not under dispute, and even Zelikow himself in one of these clips kind of has to admit that you should be somewhat skeptical of my position and my stance, is that they wrote the outline for the entire report three months into the quote-unquote investigation.
And Zelikow himself, aside from being an adamant Zionist and a part of many of these think tanks, NGOs, and having his name on many of these policy papers, was so tight with Condi Rice, they had written a book together.
And Condi, of course, what, head of the National Security Agency at the time, I believe, right?
NSA head, yeah.
So get into Zelikow.
Or national security advisor, I think.
You may be correct.
I may be butchering it 20 years on.
I got a little Joe Biden moment right there, everybody.
Maybe.
I might have actually gotten it right.
It's better than a Biden.
Can you get into Zelikow and why you really hammer him in this?
And some of those clips, again, where he's being asked not only directly about the Israeli involvement, but any foreknowledge whatsoever.
He basically, foreknowledge, absolutely not, Adam.
Yeah, this dude is such a creep.
And he believes that if you talk slowly enough and calmly enough, that it's a magic wand, that he doesn't have to actually answer your question.
And he makes these jokes that, you know, I'm one of the henchmen involved in the cover-up.
And he laughs it off.
And everywhere he goes, he's still treated like one of the good guys.
But he was one of the original authors on catastrophic terrorism, tackling the new danger.
And so he co-authored this with Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter and trilateral commission member, former director of the CIA, John Deutsch.
And so this is a paper where before 9-11, this is in 1998, they're kind of envisioning this attack, this catastrophic attack on American soil, where it would kill thousands of Americans.
They even reference the original World Trade Center bombing and say, you know, if that had been successful, there would have been mass casualties.
And so then they talk about how in a post, you know, in a post-catastrophic terrorism world, the government would clamp down on civil liberties.
There would be mass surveillance.
And they pontificate about all these other things like the Patriot Act that would eventually come to pass.
And so, yes, he authored, co-authored a book with Condi Rice.
I think they eventually did a second book together.
And Philip Zelico was then appointed to the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board.
So he gets this very high position under George W.
And then eventually authors, as far as I understand it, by himself, the National Security Strategy for America.
Now, this is a document that generally comes out of the Office of Net Assessment.
The Office of Net Assessment has about 12 very intelligent humans.
They will assess everything going on in the entire world from energy to geopolitics to technology to space, all these different jurisdictions and sectors.
And then they'll put that together in a net assessment, provide that to the Secretary of Defense and the president, who will then decide on a national security strategy to guide us forward for the next 30 years.
This was started under Nixon.
So the fact that Zelico authored this document was unorthodox.
Years later, Barack Obama, just as a sidebar, would eventually put the kibosh on the Office of Net Assessment producing net assessments.
You know, it's one statutory requirement.
He would actually stop that.
So our military would basically be flying blind or flying without a compass.
But yeah, Zelico, dude, this guy, he is so creepy.
And the things that I think he said on camera that we put into the documentary make your skin crawl.
But him and the rest of the Zionists, you know, coming in to the Bush administration, they had their hands on the levers.
And I think history is starting to look back and realize just how much this was premeditated.
I'm talking about the full invasion of Afghanistan, the invasion of Iraq, and the occupation of all these other places.
It's been on, you know, it's been on their wish list for a long time, probably going back to Daddy Bush.
And it's funny, you know, not that, you know, the project for a new American century, and that quote is important, but you don't even have to go to that.
And that's one of those things I really love about this is you kind of tried to thread new needles on some of the information that was out there.
For instance, you did use the, hey, no weapons of mass destruction under here, blah, blah, blah joke.
But then I'd forgotten about it because again, it's been, I think that's a 20 plus year old clip.
I want to say that's from like 2003 or four.
And he also gives the skull and bones joke, right?
And then you have John Kerry, his skull and bones brother over at Yale running against him and also his distant cousin on both sides, who probably won that election, by the way, everybody, and just bent the knee.
But I'm a conspiracy theorist.
They had bigger ambitions for him with climate change and all that, yeah.
Well, I mean, let's be honest.
He had way more to do with the hands-on running of the foreign policy and the diplomacy of the Biden administration than Joe Biden did.
Joe Biden wasn't conscious.
In fact, there was actually a moment where they were in the same room internationally via the United Nations on some climate Johnny nonsense where they're both in the room and Joe Biden fell asleep on camera.
So like it's both figuratively and literally, he was way more awake and involved in that administration than the puppet they put in there.
So that's another just scary aspect I'm sure we could talk about for 20 minutes.
But I want to just kind of also expand upon Bush because at no point do you accuse Bush or really anybody in the administration directly of having involvement, quote unquote, in 9-11.
You do highlight people like Paul Wolfowitz, et cetera, which I think you do rightfully so.
But the clips that you do use of Bush, and I just mentioned the skull and bones one, but the other powerful one is how uncomfortable he is.
Even to have to answer questions about 9-11 before the commission.
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And you also highlight the fact that he is testifying not under oath together with Dick Cheney.
And I mean, he looks like a scared child with his response.
Am I wrong?
No, you're not wrong.
He's asked twice by that journalist because he tries to dodge it the first time.
He tries to, so the question was posed, why aren't you appearing alone like the families requested?
And he kind of dodges it.
And then the journalist presses him one more time and he says, because we're looking forward to answering the questions that they're looking forward to asking us.
And so he's just sort of like, yeah, panicked, you can see.
Now, this is, as I mentioned, the fifth installment in our series.
So episode one goes into the B thing.
We go into the art program where we have the Israeli art students.
They were the largest foreign spy ring ever busted on American soil.
And the FBI was about halfway done rounding them up by the time 9-11 happened.
And then that whole story went away.
And by the way, you know, just because I don't want to gloss over, you know, everybody talks art students, our students, our students.
But it was a bigger network than that.
And these people were also in mall kiosks.
And they had those like zip tie helicopter things.
So overall, what you have is you have an infiltration via academia and the school system with the art students and then them kind of going around apparently door to door because one of the things that they were able to do is identify not only the government offices and military bases we would know about, but secret offices and places that we weren't supposed to know about.
And I would say that that was probably some of the on the ground.
But then you had some general surveillance also kind of around young people in these kiosks.
And you got to remember, this is peak mall, right?
This is like late 90s, early 2000s.
Everybody's, there's no Amazon, okay?
Like it's just getting started for books.
So like they're, they're kind of, I mean, they're embedded in hotbeds of not only youth culture, uh, but Americana, where we never even talk about that at all.
Like this network gets picked up pre-9-11 and post-9-11.
And although you don't have it in your films, uh, in Fabled Enemies, I have both Colin Powell being asked about these Israelis that had been rounded up and were still being detained post-9-11, and Ari Fleischer, who was the then press secretary, also commenting on this.
So, so this is not well known, but it is certainly known.
And again, where were all the trials?
Where were all the hearings?
Oh, wait, no, we just let them go after the fact, didn't we, Adam?
Yeah, in fact, if you go back and you read some of those reports or the alerts, these art students were going into certain government buildings.
They were loitering and asking certain odd questions, you know, and trying to kind of map things out.
Now, there was that video that came out recently in the last year or two of that Saudi Arabian fellow who had a, you know, video camera.
Al-Bayoumi.
Al-Bayoumi, who was at the Washington Monument, who was at the White House and other such places and filming and showing where the airplanes are coming in from.
And he's talking to someone, some handler.
He's saying, this is what you wanted me to get.
These are the areas that you wanted me to film.
So he's talking to someone.
He's not just filming it like as a home video.
And so we have reason to believe that there was the same kind of reconnaissance going on from Israel.
And of course, episode two of our series goes into the high fivers, which is, I would say, a smoking gun of exactly that, where you had individuals who were celebrating when the towers were burning.
They were eventually, you know, apprehended and they were rounded up as part of this bigger network.
The whole network was eventually let go.
And I think it was Michael Chertoff intervened and let them go.
And at the time, Chertoff, pre-9-11, he's the deputy director of the FBI under a newly crowned Robert Mueller.
And who the Muller report?
I mean, Robert Mueller, who long time, long-term in the DOJ, best buddies with Bill Barr, by the way.
They're not very tight.
Okay.
He becomes the head.
Then you got Chertoff under him.
But wait, Homeland Security doesn't exist yet.
You know who's going to make a great head of Homeland Security?
The guy that let all the Israelis go?
Michael Shertoff.
Good way to go, America.
Continue.
Yeah.
Well, and there's videos you can go watch Robert Mueller testify that there were weapons of mass destruction, biological, radiological, chemical weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
So he was part of that whole charade.
But yeah, I was saying that these Israelis eventually went back, that the high fivers, as we call them, went back to Israel, went on some national television show and bragged that they were there with the explicit purpose of documenting the event, again, illustrating foreknowledge, again, illustrating Israeli foreknowledge and involvement.
And volume three of our- Wait, wait, wait.
Let's peel it back for a second.
We're going to peel it on back for a second.
Because although in your documentary, rightfully so, you show these individuals in what are photocopied copies of the photographs they were taking.
Now, I want people to kind of understand this.
All right, now everybody's always into the UFO file and the blurry photographs that they have and all that, right?
They didn't even give us the photographs.
Now, wait, it gets better.
One of the highlights of this and one of the things that had been speculated about before the release of this information through an FOIA, and I was in touch with that individual who got the FOIA, and it was never made clear if there were more photographs or if there was also video footage of any of the events involved.
Again, they didn't have to confirm or deny that.
But in these Xeroxed POS copies of whatever they photographed, they literally blanked out their faces.
Yeah, big box.
They did not, because one of them, what they didn't blank out, was them holding a lighter up to the tower.
Now, can you imagine the outrage of four Israeli intelligence officers that were filming the event and smiling about it while having a fire underneath while people were jumping out of the building?
Now, I mean, even if someone halfway framed that in the mainstream media, which no one's touching, and if you think that they don't somewhere, somehow have those actual photographs and that they destroyed that evidence, you're crazy because that's like prime blackmail material for those individuals and everybody who ran that operation.
And maybe it's destroyed on the surface, right?
But I promise you, there is a black site somewhere that is offline that is holding that and things that are probably, and I don't know how they get much worse than that, but they do.
They absolutely do.
And more.
So, so can you even it would also have it would also have that black site would also contain more frames from the Pentagon footage or some footage from the other like nine or ten cameras that were pointed at the Pentagon.
So there's a lot that they're withholding.
Absolutely.
All right.
So I got us a little off track from those individuals, but I'm sure you're about to get into how that network expanded even beyond just obviously who they rounded up, the art students, the kiosks, into actual telecom companies like Comverse and Amdocs.
Could you talk about that?
Bingo.
Yeah, you knew exactly where I was going.
So that's volume three of our series.
We get into Amdocs, Converse Infosys, which now goes by the name Varant Systems.
And we make the case that this is not just starting with George W, that this was all occurring under the Clinton administration.
What people don't realize is that our entire national surveillance infrastructure was handed over to Israeli companies.
This was long before, you know, the iPhone.
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This is long before all that kind of modern stuff.
But they had the ability to track.
I think you go through this actually in Fabled Enemies.
They had the ability to collect emails.
They had the ability to collect phone calls, all electronic messages.
And so, you know, one would just ask the question, why wouldn't that all be vertically integrated in the United States intelligence apparatus?
Why would we be outsourcing some of that stuff?
And what would be the incentive?
So, like, what do they have on Clinton?
Are they twisting his arm?
How do they control these puppet presidents that get in?
Wait a minute.
Bill Clinton, the guy that was super close, apparently super close to Ghelain Maxwell, according to her DOJ testimony, and not necessarily Epstein, who had a painting of Bill Clinton in a blue dress and high heels pointing with a little smirkle on his face.
And then also this weird painting of George Bush with some Piper airplanes and these blocks that appear to represent two knockdown towers.
And the same guy that when they basically leaked from the New York raid some of the pictures that were there is arm in arm with MBS, you know, arms dealer for Saudi Arabia, was best friends with Prince Andrew, arms dealer for Saudi Arabia, did business with Adnan Khashoggi, arms dealer in Iran-Contra,
and has a big old dollar bill signed by Bill Gates, who, you know, doesn't like talking about that relationship very much, that said, you were what, right, Jeffrey, with a big old smell of face drawn on there.
Huh?
Just, it's wacky stuff.
It's just, it's a, it's a weird and wacky world, my friend.
Same, same guy that Epstein, apparently his lawyer and his brother say that he's the one that actually started the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton initiative.
You know, the guy that was at the White House 17 times between 93 and 95 when Clinton was president.
It's weird.
Yeah, exactly.
He's been, Bill Clinton has been on the Lolita Express like 26 times, ditched Secret Service like 13 times.
Well, let me say this.
And again, I know that they say the 26 times on there.
Ghelain, again, God lover and obviously a very honest woman.
She has said that that 20 is literally that one Africa trip and that she was on that, which I'm not sure is all on the flight logs.
Like what we've been able to get on at least the Africa trip, and I'm not sure if that by the flight logs, that's all 26 times.
She's claiming it.
We know that what, Spacey was on that trip and Chris Tucker was on that trip.
And Spacey, another really stand-up individual, everybody.
I mean, we're talking about an honest Thomas here.
He now, after all of his persecution, recently when he was asked about being on the plane with Bill and Epstein and the young girls, does say that there were young girls on the plane while he was on the plane with Clinton.
Fun fact, the Frank Underwood character, you know, that really stand-up guy that you would want to be the real president of the United States in House of Cards, partially based on Bill Clinton and that relationship.
And Bill Clinton was even asked about House of Cards, and he said, you know what?
It's a lot more realistic than you would think.
Yeah, like the episode where they show Bohemian Grove with the oil tycoon or maybe the one where Frank Underwood is implied to have had a homosexual relationship with his fraternity brother on an alumni outing.
Another little fun fact, maybe an inconvenient fact, is like how many of Kevin Spacey's accusers got in car crashes and died right before testifying?
I would imagine that's simply karma for the stand-up type individual.
How dare they besmirch Mr. Spacey's American beauty?
He was Kaiser Sose, man.
Let's be real.
And by the way, Kaiser Sosay in The Usual Suspects, great movie.
Let me tell you something about the director, Brian Singer, also a very stand-up individual, especially when it comes to getting young boys and teenagers into intimate situations via drugs and other things, as you can find out in the film An Open Secret, which I would encourage people to watch.
By the way, a little Brian Singer news.
I don't want to stray too far here.
We still got a little bit more time with Adam.
Brian Singer, who basically has not been in the Hollywood spotlight for numerous reasons recently, just did a film with John Voigt.
Let's stray away just a little bit.
I know that you're sometimes into these conservative circles, big part of Flynn in the background.
We did a show on that.
What really frustrates me with these people is that they want Conor McGregor at the White House, that they want to get behind an Andrew Tate.
And now somebody like a John Voigt is doing movies with Brian Singer.
It's like, hey, guys, if you're going to sit there and you're going to talk about human trafficking and Epstein and the abuse, maybe, you know, maybe, just maybe, you should remain consistent in the types of things you say.
What do you have to say?
Do you think that's just blind spots?
Do you think it's a combination of that and open hypocrisy?
What's convenient?
What gets you clicks, likes, the circles you're in, et cetera.
Why is there like that narrative barrier where they're like the conservative crowds trying to be like, we want to stop the human trafficking?
We want to do this.
And then it's like the three, I could go on.
But those three examples, I mean, even the Tuck-ins.
You want to interview Kevin Spacey, great human being, on his comeback tour?
You want to sit down with Andrew Tate?
And again, Tuck, you want to promote the guy that even if you don't believe he trafficked anybody, made his money on online pornography and gambling?
You want that guy?
And then you want to interview Connor McGregor in a Masonic lodge while he wants to run for president of Ireland after he got, you know, convicted in a court of law of sexual assault.
Not a criminal one, but boy, did she want a criminal case.
So I'm going to let you take it from there.
What's your thought on that?
I think that there is a bell curve to everything, and that bell curve applies to awareness and research.
And so the bulk of any party, even the conservative or the group that likes to fancy themselves as like, well, we're the ones that are aware of all the conspiracies.
I think that the bulk of that group also has this hero complex and latches onto things and does whatever is politically expedient.
And that means raising up certain individuals with very checkered pasts.
And so it does kind of deflate your sales a little bit, deflates your hope a little bit when you see stuff like that.
I wish that, you know, I wish that there were more people on the conservative side of the aisle who held our own thought leaders' feet to the fire.
Because this sort of stuff, you could say that it sort of maybe not invalidates, but it calls into question the credibility of the movement when we're raising up these people.
I mean, you and I have talked about this many times in the past that we have, you know, these pedophile politicians on both sides of the aisle.
And so really no matter which, I mean, it's a uniparty.
And when I've gotten involved in certain projects, like I am, I'm not going to say anything bad about anyone here.
I'm not going to call anyone out by name, but you, when you get close to certain groups, you do see that there is this like propensity to worship or propensity to sweep things under the rug.
There are a whole, there's a wide array of personality foibles and defects, character defects that I don't know, man.
Maybe a lot of people at the top are just willing to look the other way, like I said, because it's politically expedient to getting something done.
But it sucks.
It sucks seeing all that.
Yeah, it's not my cup of tea and it's not the road that I'm ever going to go down.
We got a little less than 10 minutes in the broadcast.
I guess where we can wrap this up.
And again, I want everybody to go check out Dauntless Dialogue.
I know that you're over on Rumble as well, but you're dealing with some censorship issues.
The best way is dauntlessdialogue.com and that's how you support and you see everything.
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But you get into the idea of security of the World Trade Center.
Obviously, you've done some work in the past on this, but also in relation to blueprints and especially at the very tail end, I don't want to give away the whole shebango, but what's going on via building seven and pulling it, if you will.
So why don't you tell us a little bit about that?
And we even get into like alias territory at one point.
Yeah.
So, I mean, our films tend to cover a lot of ground.
And I often will leave certain breadcrumbs in there without really fully explaining them because I want to kind of spark people's curiosity so that they'll pick up the torch and do research themselves.
On our website, we always list all of our sources hyperlinked in our scripts so that people can have an easier time kind of following in our footsteps because I don't want every journalist who comes along to have to kind of reinvent the wheel and spend the hundreds of hours that I've spent, you know, going down every little esoteric part of the internet.
And so, yeah, we end the film with a little bit about Building 7.
We go into some of the connections with, well, we talk about prior false flags that Israel had done on its Western allies, specifically the UK or Great Britain and America.
Operation Susanna is a lesser known one.
I think most people know about the USS Liberty strike.
That's gotten a lot of coverage, but Operation Susanna was actually one of the most documented false flags from Israel in modern history.
And so we talk about that.
You know, they basically, the British was going to pull out of the Suez Canal area.
The Israelis wanted them to stay.
And so they actually targeted via false flag attacks as part of this kind of Gladio network.
They targeted British, American, and Egyptian targets, primarily in Egypt.
And so we bring that and we draw a lot of, you know, we get the string out.
We get the corkboard.
We put in the thumbtacks and we draw some connections to some more modern characters, people whose names your audience are familiar with, like Larry Silverstein.
We also go through the, there's a lesser known part of World Trade Center history that I was very shocked to learn about that.
The Mossad had actually created a front company called Atwell Security of Tel Aviv.
And this was set up by this guy named Abraham Bendor, who went under the alias of Abraham or Abraham Bendor.
I get it confused.
I think his real name was Abraham Shalom.
Correct.
And so he was basically exiled from Israeli politics because he had sanctioned the killing of two Palestinian prisoners and he denied it.
And then it was proven to be true.
Well, this guy creates Atwell Security of Tel Aviv and then they take over the contract for the entire Port Authority security for the World Trade Center.
And once it was brought to people's attention in a more, you know, some people advocated like, hey, you can't have this guy.
He's a killer.
He's also former Israeli intelligence of Shinbet.
And so the contracts were canceled.
But this is after almost like a month of being in possession of the entire, you know, blueprints for the entire World Trade Center complex.
And so, yeah, man, there's just, there's so much to 9-11.
We could easily do like another five episodes.
This most recent one was an hour.
And it's one of the most challenging films I've done journalistically and creatively.
And I think that's a good thing ultimately because I feel like it was like going to the gym and lifting some heavy weights.
So I feel like it strengthened me in a lot of ways.
But I pour my heart and soul into these films so that they're infused with emotion, not just like rage.
I try to make people laugh.
There's this scene where I clown on Senator Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz and some other individuals for just being so openly, you know, foolhardy for like, you know, gung-ho for Israel above and beyond any love for America, any loyalty to America.
No, and, you know, for those that aren't aware, I mean, it is kind of eye-opening.
You know, there are some quotes in there that are like totally lunatic.
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And look, I'm not beholden to any nation state based on who's in charge or the policies being carried out, right?
Even my own.
And especially in today's political environment, like Trump signing that executive order saying you can't burn the American flag, totally insane.
The federal judge that now considers the burning of the Israeli flag to be anti-Semitic because the Star of David on there, totally insane.
But I always tell people, look, you want a direct line of how our country's policy has moved in that direction.
There's one place to look, and it's 9-11.
And was it on that direction?
Sure.
But in the ability to push it over the edge and now institute all of these things from the Patriot Act to the Military Commissions Act to the NDAA to the foreign policy we've discussed today to Homeland Security and so on has been centralized around this false narrative regarding 9-11.
And that's why before we wrap it up with Adam and again, dauntlessdialogue.com, dauntlessdialogue.com, I am going to be speaking in DC, turning the tide, 9-11 justice in 2025.
I'm actually going to be hosting the event on 9-11 in DC.
And had you told me, a little guy, that I'm the guy that's going to be introducing like a Dennis Kucinich who introduced 30-plus articles of impeachment on the Bush administration, three of which had to do with 9-11, probably wouldn't have believed you.
John Keriaku, the guy that blew the whistle on the torture and the waterboarding, served prison time.
He's going to be there.
Kurt Weldon, the guy that brought Abel Danger.
Abel Danger right there on that burned disc.
He's the guy.
He's going to be there.
And then Senator Ron Johnson, who's really been one of the most correct and outspoken people during the COVID-19 44 nightmare.
So if you can make it, great.
I really want you to come on down.
And if you can support me in the links down below via the buy me a coffee or the PayPal, please do buy me a steak while I'm there.
They're covering my hotel and my travel expenses.
That's it.
You know, I don't want a fee.
I feel privileged to be a part of this.
And once again, I feel privileged to be talking to Dauntless Dialogue, aka Adam Reba, because he now has a massive body of work that is not easy to put together.
This latest documentary is heads and shoulders above what the vast majority of the indie media or even the mainstream media try to put out there.
So kudos to you, sir.
What would you like to leave the audience with?
Well, thank you, Jason.
First of all, that means a lot coming from you.
I kind of came up in your shadow.
A lot of people don't know that we come from the same town, Oneonta, which is pretty crazy.
But you deserve that spot there at that event.
And it's cool to see the guys like, you know, Richard Gage and Kurt Weldon and Ron Johnson on the ticket.
And so I just want to make a big announcement here.
This is the biggest thing that has ever happened to Dauntless Dialogue pretty much since I started the company.
I'll make it quick, but I think you're going to like it.
Basically, we have only had a Roku app until now, and it's barely passable.
The thing sucks.
It gets the job done, but it's not sophisticated by today's technological standards.
And I have utilized AI to help me write some code.
And I've built now a brand new app, which will be available on Google, Android, Apple, Amazon.
It's going to replace our entire website.
Our website is outdated and clunky.
It's slow and it's not even that efficient.
Like it's this is going to save me so much time and money.
It's going to save you guys frustration.
It's just going to raise the bar in the truth community, in independent media.
It is going to be on par with Netflix.
And so I'm so excited because like, honestly, this is how you have to fight the culture war.
If you want your information to get in front of more and more people, if you want them to take you seriously, if you want them to be impressed and support you, you got to deliver what you're doing with a mean punch.
And so we are about to punch way above our weight class.
Jason, you've heard me say it for years that I'm building the replacement for Netflix.
And now with this new app, we are absolutely going to be basically on the same technological footing as Netflix.
So now if you build it, they will come.
I'm just hoping that the masses will start to turn their attention to what it is that we're doing so that we can expand.
Look, man, I just need my bills paid.
Basically, I don't need any money beyond that.
But if I want to help affect the global conversation, I need people like your audience to support me.
So thank you for having me on, man.
It's a pleasure to be here.
A pleasure every time.
And again, you knocked it out of the park with this latest documentary.
Please go check out the entire Order Out of Chaos series.
Like I said, you want the freebies, you can go check out Rumble.
You're going to be impressed.
I hope impressed enough to go and join Dauntless Dialogue.
Nobody deserves it more than Adam Riva.
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Remember, the whole deal, I don't think we mentioned Democrat, Republican, right, or left at all.
Neoconservative may have come up, but if you haven't noticed, a lot of people on the left are pretty neoconservative these days.