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We're going deep in the weeds with Jason Burmes here on AD in the Morning.
Bo Ramsey there with the intro song.
I love that.
That's right up your alley, man.
Taking care of stuff at home and making deals on the phones, all the things Jason Burmes is so good at.
Of course, documentary filmmaker.
And he has his own YouTube channel and his show, Making Sense of the Madness.
What's going on, Jason Burmes?
Living the Dream, as always.
How are you today, Aaron?
I'm pretty good.
You know, side note, so a while, like years ago, probably four or five, the local newspaper did a story on us.
And I'm not a big, like, live in the dream guy.
Like, I don't say that very often.
I know that's a common thing, but I happened to say it when they were interviewing me, you know, because I really am.
Like, this is what I wanted to do when I was a kid, like when I grew up.
And then I had this whole normal life, and then this sort of just landed in my lap, which is weird.
But anyway, that was the cover of the, you know, on the story.
It was Living the Dream.
And I was like, oh, I'm a cliche.
We're all a cliche.
I wouldn't be too concerned about it.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
So we were talking a little bit about some of the stuff of the news here in the last week.
And one of the things I wanted to dive into was the marathon three-hour interview Hunter Biden did with Andrew Calligan, who is a guy that you, you were just on that show, what, a few weeks ago or months ago, before Hunter Biden?
So they posted a video that I confronted Andrew Callahan on about, I don't know, it's probably like two or three months ago now.
So maybe like three or four episodes before that.
But in all honesty, that occurred almost two years ago.
I think it'll be like two years ago, a week from now over in outside of Des Moines, Iowa.
And essentially, you know, for those that aren't familiar with Callahan, he kind of does this pseudo journalism kind of borat style.
He even kind of admits that.
And it's a lot of close-ups.
It's a lot of zoom-ins.
It's a lot of jump cuts.
I had not really been familiar, you know, with how big he was on YouTube.
I had seen him because he had goofed on Alex Jones.
And he had gotten a deal with HBO to do this film called This Place Rules.
So when I was at this conference, I saw him and I didn't quite recognize him, but I knew I knew him from somewhere.
And eventually I figured out who he was.
And then when he approached G. Edward Griffin, who I have the utmost respect for, for those not aware of G. Edward Griffin's work, he's the author of books like The Creature from Jekyll Island.
He's been doing documentary films and not only writing books, but doing big-time interviews.
That Yuri Besminoff interview that so many people post and post and post again, that was done by G. Edward Griffin.
So I just kind of stepped in.
I said, come on, man.
You know you're here to goof on these people.
And so we ended up talking.
I wish that I had taped our entire interview.
Although I didn't think I came across too badly, you know, a lot of people were in my comment section saying this or that.
And I'm like, well, if you actually watch the full interview, I actually did address that.
So, you know, Callahan's journalism is, I don't know, shoddy at best.
You know, long form stuff, however, like this is a little bit better.
I always say this, if you're going to do that type of stuff, you really have to release the whole interview unedited.
And that's something that I've done in the past with my documentary films.
After the documentary gets released, I really do try to put out the interviews of these individuals unfiltered so that people can get a broader sense of what they had to say and understand that I wasn't deceptively editing anything.
Right.
And that's fair because obviously, well, we just had what the $16 million payout from CBS to Trump for them editing the Kamala Harris thing.
I mean, this goes on.
And, you know, in a documentary, that's it's normal.
You're not going to show an entire interview.
You're going to show snippets of, oh, well, this is this and this is this as you got other stuff going on.
So it makes sense.
But, you know, bottom line, how much does the Democratic Party just want Hunter Biden to go away?
I mean, this guy and some of the stuff, I mean, language, like, wow, like he really went off and he looked like he was a little fired up.
You know, if you are trying to make the inference that he may have been on certain substances during sections of that interview, I don't know that you would be far off.
Obviously, the big clip that's gone viral is the one where he's sitting there dropping F-bombs and essentially talking about El Salvador and our current immigration policy and the quote-unquote Maryland man.
You know, the problem with that is that I'm just so sick of those same tired, false arguments that there's all these jobs out there that Americans don't want to do, that it's only immigrants that cook our food and clean our homes, et cetera, et cetera.
It's just a sad trope.
And look, I'm not trying to demonize those that have come over to the United States to try to live a better life, but you don't have a nation without borders, and you don't have borders without immigration law.
And, you know, obviously our immigration laws and the enforcement of those laws have gotten continually worse.
And I often argue, you know, continually worse after we put the or actually created the Department of Homeland Security and put them in charge.
A lot of people, oh, we hate ICE.
A lot of people forget, you know, ICE wasn't even a thing during my generation.
We just had border patrol and border security.
Right.
So we're about the same age.
So yeah.
Yeah.
So I mean, I get it because those are the talking points of the party and of the day, and they're being utilized in that rah-rah-rah fashion.
But, you know, does Hunter Biden have a political future?
More than likely not.
I can't see, you know, he talked about if I were president, you know, I'd be invading El Salvador.
Well, that's insane.
And it would be insane for you to be on a party ticket.
You know, he also talked about his father and the 81 million votes.
Obviously, highly skeptical of the 2020 election and the results.
And although there's a lot of talk right now about Russia Gate and possible indictments and Obama and treason, and look, all that stuff is legitimate.
I tell people to read the documentation themselves.
No one's going to prison there.
And if you really do want to change the system for the better and the infrastructure, you have to kind of go full force right now at the 2020 election to go after things like the voting machines, the loopholes with mail-in ballots, et cetera.
And I don't see any real effort to do that.
So to me, that's extremely problematic as well, Aaron.
Absolutely.
And I think, like I said, well, they came out with the slogan too big to rig.
Pretty much, if it's close, you know, I feel like there's definitely an opportunity for manipulation when it comes to elections.
I feel like one that I remember very well is W and Al Gore.
You know, it comes down to some lady that works for W's brother, the governor at the time of Florida, that's going to decide.
I mean, it was hokey.
I mean, I felt like, do you guys really feel like you're selling this?
You know what I mean?
And again, I think if it's close, there's always an opportunity for manipulation.
You pretty much, if you're going to win, you better win big, and then they don't have that opportunity.
Well, I mean, you got to win super big.
And I believe that Trump won super big, really all three times.
And that's the main issue.
So you're talking about the hanging Chads and Florida and the 2000 election.
What's really sad about that.
I forgot about the Chad.
Well, you got physical ballots there, and at least they were counting the physical ballots.
And, you know, it came down to like, I think, you know, less than 100 votes, like a dozen times that they had counted and recounted those ballots and what was qualified and what was disqualified.
That really set the stage for the modern day corruption.
You know, by 2004, so many of these machines, you know, we talk about the different machines now and they'll sue you.
But back in the day, Diebold and these other companies, I believe, were just as corrupt.
For instance, there was plenty of evidence that John Kerry actually beat George Bush, but did not challenge the election because he was sent there to lose.
John Kerry, for those that don't know, actually went to college at Yale with Bush.
He was a little bit older.
They're both in skull and bones together.
They were distant cousins on both sides of their heritage.
So these are, you know, blue bloods.
A lot of people also forget that back in 2004, Howard Dean was really the frontrunner.
And then the media made this circus when he lost the first primary.
And he's like, yeah!
Yeah, they caught that video and going, we're going to win Michigan.
Then we're going to get rid of it, he looked like it was going to explode.
And then they just kept running that clip, that like eight, 10-second clip, and then he just went and he was done.
Yeah.
And again, if we were a little bit more politically astute, if it was not 2004 at the time, if you looked at a rally or an event with John Kerry, he couldn't get 100 people there.
That should show you the power of the media and its manipulation.
So those machines have now been entrenched everywhere.
I think that they are the main problem.
They really, first of all, they're run by private companies that have quote-unquote proprietary software.
They're easily hackable.
Time and time again, they say that they are not able to be hooked up to the internet, but that turns out to be a falsity and a lie.
And they use a system called fractional voting.
Bev Harris, who did a great book called Black Box Voting, and they even did an HBO documentary on this back in the day.
It really showed the issues with these machines.
And those issues were never solved.
They only got worse.
And now we've gotten to the point where if you dare to challenge them on any level, you'll get sued into the ground like Mike Lindell.
Is Mike Lindell a little bit of a wacky guy?
Yeah, he's got that crackhead energy, just like Hunter Biden does, folks.
But at the same time, hey, truth be told, right?
But at the same time, I think a lot of the stuff that he was talking about was legitimate.
I think he did get pulled in to some of this hokey or Johnny nonsense that was kind of internet lore at the time.
He got taken in by some of the grifters that were involved in the QA nonsense later on, and that really hurt him.
You know, if you're going to get into these fields, you have to know that you are going to be attacked brutally.
And if you have financial means and resources, you're going to be attacked financially.
These are not easy fights to win.
With this administration in there, with the justice system, the way that it has been weaponized against them time and time again, if we don't get noticeable change in transparency this time, I don't know that we ever get it, Aaron.
And when I say that, I mean paper ballots that then can be audited and counted by human beings in a public setting, much like they did in Florida.
As flawed as that system was, it is a thousand times better than what we currently have.
Man, I couldn't agree more.
Anytime the digital critter kind of creeps into things, there's just way too many opportunities for machinations, you know, hacking, whatever, because there's always somebody smarter than you on a computer.
And I don't like any of it.
Like, I don't, you know, I mean, computers are computers, it is what it is, but it's, yeah, I agree 100%.
If we kept it the good old-fashioned paper ballot and people hand count them and you don't have any machine machinations per se, I think that's the best.
Have you ever seen the movie Campaign?
Is that the one with Will Farrell?
And it's one of my favorite Zach Galifanakis.
It's an underrated classic.
It is.
Thank you.
You couldn't put that better.
But watch that.
Anybody.
It's a hilarious movie.
And then they go through this whole process.
This whole thing happens.
And then at the end, the rich guys that are trying to kind of be the, you know, the puppeteers anyway, there's a pair of brothers that are modeled after the Koch brothers.
Then they just bring in their own voting machines and make it the way they want anyway.
After the whole movie, you know, but it's a hilarious movie.
Man, there's so many funny parts.
The baby, where they're fighting over who's going to kiss the baby.
And that movie is hilarious.
Underrated classic.
You are spot on.
It is a great movie.
And look, during that time period, as a culture, just like I was talking about, you know, HBO was doing documentary films on this.
I remember in 2008, I'm a huge Simpsons fan when they did their Treehouse a Horror Halloween episode.
The opening was Homer going to vote with the machines and continually trying to vote for Barack Obama and the machine continually voting for John McCain.
See, that's the goof and the perception that it's only the Republicans that are evil and there's no vote rigging on the other side or vice versa.
You shouldn't trust either side of the aisle.
And once again, putting our voting systems into the hands of privatized companies that cannot be audited is one of the most insane things we have done as a society.
Yeah, 100%.
Well, you know, you brought up The Simpsons.
Bernstein Bears Controversy00:02:30
There's still the argument that Matt Greening is maybe some sort of time traveler.
But you debunked some of this when we had you on in the studio one time.
I mean, as a huge, I mean, The Simpsons is still probably my favorite show of all time.
I think I'm about two seasons behind now because I actually went on a run where I hadn't watched in five to seven years, but in the past like year or so, I caught up on it.
There were some cringy moments.
Look, when you throw that much against the wall, they've got the Harvard writers.
They certainly are able to pick up on trends.
But this idea that they've predicted the future again and again and again, people are going to see what they want.
It's almost like a Rorschach painting.
At the same time, is there some spooky stuff?
I still remember the New York City episode where they actually go to the World Trade Center and Bart has this magazine for New York that's $9.11.
Yeah, that's pretty odd.
Do I think one of the writers of The Simpsons or one of the artists had inside knowledge of 9-11?
No, I don't.
I guess they're fun, right?
Like a lot of people like to, when we talk about getting deep in the weeds, they're in it for the entertainment value, right?
They want to go check out the Mandela effects online rather than to get into the deep geopolitical arena that I think is far more important.
Right.
Well, it's funny.
We brought up the Mandela effect the other day on the show.
I couldn't remember what it was called, and Joe remembered and sent it to me, but we were talking about something.
Well, and then I said Bernstein Bears.
And that's like the big one because of the Berenstein versus Bernstein and that whole thing.
But anyway, that's a whole nother rabbit hole.
I mean, again, with those type of things, they're fun.
I mean, the Bernstein Bears, they were huge as a kid.
You know that.
Back in the day, when you had like less than 12 channels, a Bernstein Bears cartoon that might come on, you know, once every four months on a weekend was a big moment because obviously the books were everywhere.
They were in the schools.
When you went to the doctor's or the dentist's office, those were usually the books that were there.
But at the same time, is it Bernstein or Bernstein?
I just don't think that we're in the multiple ripples of reality that CERN has ruptured and changed everything.
Dementia Moment00:07:13
Right, right.
How the hell did we start with Hunter Biden and end up on the Bernstein Bears?
It's just kind of how we roll, Aaron.
Yeah, yeah, I guess so.
We are deep in the weeds with Jason Burmes here, as we're doing every Friday from 9 to 10, brought to you by River Cities Reader.
And yeah, well, to cap this little Hunter Biden discussion off, I think, like I said, everybody just wants him to go away.
You know, anybody from the Democratic Party is like, oh, no.
Like, what's, oh, gosh.
Oh, please don't.
Oh, no.
And, you know, he looks high as a kite.
He acts erratic and crazy.
We still don't know.
Nobody ever did come out and say who that cocaine in the White House belonged to.
So the guy's on drugs.
He's, I don't know.
Off his rocker is what comes to my mind.
Especially now that his dad's out of office and kind of went out in a shameful way.
And yeah, angry.
Very angry.
I mean, I think the bigger story is the fact that not only is father out of office, but was he ever really running that office in the first place?
He's made almost no appearances or commentary after leaving Aaron.
And that shouldn't be a shock because, again, this guy was a dementia patient when he was installed.
He made the cancer revelation.
But once again, if you went back during that administration, he actually talked about having cancer in one of his dementia moments.
I thought it was a dementia moment that he was just saying that.
No, it was a dementia moment where he mentioned something that he should not have said.
Biden, obviously, also involved with Russia Gate heavily, with what happened to Michael Flynn, and even the first impeachment of Trump.
You know, Aaron, if you had told me when I was reporting originally on the fact that Hunter Biden in front of the Council on Foreign Relations at a filmed event that people can go still watch on C-SPAN to this day, sitting up there with Richard Haas, who was the president of the CFR, bragging about a deal being cut with Ukraine for a billion dollars, going there and saying, yeah, I've got the billion,
but have you gotten rid of this prosecutor?
And the prosecutor was the one that was investigating his son and John Kerry's kid, by the way, okay, during that whole Ukrainian barisma energy scandal.
And he demanded that that person be fired.
He said they weren't going to fire him.
The Ukrainian guy, he goes, Well, then you're not going to get the billion dollars.
He brags on camera that he's got his plane leaving in about six hours.
And lo and behold, he goes, son of a bitch.
He fired the prosecutor.
Now, somehow, some way, that situation where Trump ends up on the phone with Poroshenko, the leader of Ukraine at the time, asking him to investigate what they were already investigating.
And if that he didn't, he would be withholding aid.
If you had told me that was going to get him impeached, I couldn't have believed it.
I mean, that is just such cartoon level that one guy literally admits to and laughs about a crime that is covering up the crime of his son.
And then the crime is then passed on to the president of the United States who wants that crime investigated.
That's how far we've come.
I mean, we are in a world where the criminals are able to weaponize the quote-unquote justice system against those that would have them investigated.
Yep.
Yep.
That's yeah, that's right.
That kind of makes your head spin around, doesn't it?
It really does.
I mean, and the Bidens have been around for a very long time.
Obviously, if you take a look at Hunter, he was never really groomed to be in the political world.
That's why Bo Biden was the one that did get into the political arena.
For those that don't know, obviously, Bo is no longer with us, died of brain cancer.
Bo was also the one that was in the military.
Hunter didn't seem to have a problem, you know, having a relationship with his dead brother's wife right afterwards in short order.
And I will just say that there are things on that laptop that suggest that he did much worse things to a much younger family member.
Oh, gosh.
Have you?
Well, Hunter seems like he was more groomed to make the back room deals and not be the political face.
You know, he was going to do the dirty work and take the mud on his face, which he does.
But anybody, you haven't happened to look through that Hunter Biden laptop, have you?
I have seen a lot of the Hunter Biden laptop.
I know the stuff that really got, I guess, play in the media was the smoking crack or the hookers.
Crackhead energy.
I love that.
I'm going to use that, by the way.
That's great stuff.
Well, let me just say this: one of the things that was largely overlooked in that laptop, but reported on, is you know how you sync your iPhone to your laptop and it's got your iCloud and all your contacts in there.
Do you know what Hunter Biden had his father's phone number in there as?
I don't.
Pedo Peter.
That is not a joke.
That's what he had his father's number in his phone as was Pedo Peter.
What does that tell you?
Does that tell you that he's got a great relationship with his dad?
That his dad is really raised an amazing family.
Let's not forget that yet another thing that the media suppressed was Hunter's sister, Jill, or I'm sorry, I forget what her, it's not Jill, but Hunter's sister, Joe's daughter's.
Is that one of the wives?
What's that?
There's an Ashley Biden.
That's it.
Ashley's, it is Ashley.
So Ashley Biden was in a halfway house, and she happened to leave her diary in this halfway house.
The next residence ended up getting it to Project Veritas.
There were actually FBI raids on some of the Veritas people.
Veritas didn't even have the gumption, the sack, to put out the diary.
Instead, it made its way around and an outlet called National File put out the diary.
And in the diary, Ashley Biden talks about not only remembering inappropriate showers with her father, but talks about her cousin and how she feels like her and her cousin may have been molested and that's why they're so oversexualized.
Cloud Seeding Controversies00:07:54
Oh, geez.
Yikes.
Oh, man.
It goes deep, doesn't it?
It goes deeper than most know.
And the thing is that, look, it's not like I'm coming up with these news stories out of nowhere.
It's not even like I'm just, you know, citing sources that are not mainstream or documentation that isn't available.
It's just that you don't see these as the headlines or the mantras of the mainstream media outlets, whether it be print or on television or even online.
And unfortunately, even the alternative sort of influencers, they're all talking points.
I mean, when it gets down to the meat and potatoes of so many of these issues, the people that have been able to carve out a niche, unfortunately, don't really know much.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, and that's why I like talking to you because I feel like you read everything and then you like flip it over and read it backwards.
You're very sharp on sourcing, which is a big deal to me, and also kind of just cutting through the crap and understanding, well, this side's going to present it this way.
This side's going to present it this way.
Let's find some kind of truth in the details.
And you're very good at that.
So Invisible Empire, a great documentary film that Jason did, you really crack a lot of that open.
And I highly recommend checking out all of his films if you get a chance.
We are Deep in the Weeds with Jason Burmese brought to you by River Cities Reader.
Let's switch gears quick here because I really got a problem with bioengineering of weather.
I don't like it.
I feel like what we just had happen in Texas, that tragedy.
So two days before, a company had done some cloud seeding in San Antonio, which was only 150 miles away.
And of course, we didn't have anything to do with that.
We didn't have anything to do with that crazy storm that no one's ever seen that wiped out all these people and rose the river 26 feet in two hours or whatever it was.
No, why would we have anything to do that?
Well, because you're cloud seeding, and that's what cloud seeding does.
And I just, it creeps me out, Jason, that this goes on and that no one really talks about it.
There's very little, you know, the government's not explaining anything.
They don't even want to talk about it.
And for a long time, it was just a few different countries that were doing it.
Now we've got companies doing it for said countries.
And I don't know, man.
It just makes me nervous.
I bring up the Derecho thing a lot, how it happened.
And then exactly one year later, it happened again.
And are you seeing any more news on this?
Have you seen anything that I haven't seen that can explain any of this stuff?
So geoengineering, to me, is a rather broad topic.
And, you know, you mentioned cloud seating, right?
And cloud seeding, to me, is just a very small part of what is actually happening with geoengineering.
We have been manipulating the weather on some scale, not only through aerosolized sprays, solar radiation management, but even electromagnetic fields and programs such as HARP.
And anybody can look this stuff up.
Alex Jones, way, way, way back in the day, I think his name was Livingston.
It might have been Ed Livingston.
Ed Livingston was basically the godfather of weather warfare.
In the 40s and 50s, this guy was flying into the middle of hurricanes, and they were able to either strengthen or completely knock out the hurricane.
They were able to use aerosols to not only spray certain particulates, but dim certain areas for cover, et cetera, et cetera.
This has actually been going on on a privatized level outside of nation states now for well over two decades.
And the real issue is there's constant, and I mean constant weather manipulation from both privatized, state-run organizations, and then what you could call, you know, the Defense Department projects.
For instance, on a recent episode of Dr. Phil, a woman asked about the spraying to RFK Jr.
And I was kind of surprised because most politicians have either ignored this issue, they've said it was completely insane, or they've spoken about it under their breath.
RFK Jr. actually said that the spraying was going on and they weren't sure who was doing it, but they think it was DARPA.
Now, I want that to sink into people.
You now have an executive office that is talking about an executive within an executive that is outside of that executive.
And I know that sounds like a mouthful, but hear me out.
So you have an administration that has been elected into office and appointed through Trump that apparently has no oversight over massive programs being run by the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency.
That should alarm everybody.
And, you know, I often talk about this one, Aaron, because this is a subject that, you know, it concerns, I mean, it's the air we breathe, right?
It's the water we drink.
It's not just these large-scale events that may or may not have been manipulated by this technology.
And I think, look, if I ran and won the governorship of Iowa, could I stop the spraying in the sky?
Would that even be in my jurisdiction?
And I don't know that it is.
You know, we had State Senator Jeff Shipley, along with others, try to introduce legislation just this year to halt these geoengineering and aerosolized programs.
And the opposition party, Shipley is a Republican, the Democrats came in and they just said, you know, there's a lot of speculation.
There's a lot of talk.
There's no proof any of this is happening.
I mean, people are up there giving the proof, talking about the organizations, talking about the time they spray.
No, there's just none of that.
He goes, you know, but if it is real, I understand that they're trying to stop global warming and I want them to keep me safe.
So it's the denial and then the admission that, well, if it is real, it's for the greater good.
It's actually benefiting me.
So I actually want this to occur.
I mean, it's totally and completely insane circular logic.
But again, most people are just on the peripheral of this information.
You know, you mentioned Invisible Empire, which I think is a great film.
I made a film after that called Shade the Motion Picture that really delves deep into the geoengineering aspect of this predator class that I often discuss.
Well, I haven't got to watch that one yet.
I'm trying to do one a week.
And I was thinking about it.
Maybe at some point, maybe we get into this, we'll get our segments down a little better and we'll do a little review on some of it.
Or if I have questions to throw at you, stuff like that, maybe we'll get with you on that.
But it's, I don't know.
Yeah, you just made it, made me even more stressed out about this.
I just want you to know that because it is like, who's doing it?
And I wonder that a lot with our three-letter or five-DARPA, you know, FBI, CIA.
You know, who knows who?
You know, who knows what?
Well, what are they doing?
Well, what are we doing?
Are they going against each other at times?
Do they just have carte blanche?
We'll just do whatever the hell we want.
And if there's a problem, then it's classified or however that looks.
Iran-Contra Connections00:10:21
It really does feel that way at times, right?
You do have these programs that are outside of the presidential purview.
And a lot of those programs, by the way, you go back to post-World War II, and you started using that model of compartmentalization that worked so well in the Manhattan Project, the kind of need to know.
And the president often didn't need to know.
You know, you texted me about Area 51, and Area 51 was a hotbed for much of this technology, whether it be nuclear or propulsion systems or different types of aerial systems that would be used to spy on other nations or for surveillance.
And, you know, they tell a story in that book about the ox cart.
And anybody can look that up.
And basically, this is a plane that was able to get, I believe, 60,000 feet into the air.
And Lyndon Johnson had no idea the program was even going on, but was extremely delighted after it was revealed to him.
Recently, on Tucker Carlson, you had one of these SEAL Team 6 guys.
Now, I take all this stuff with a grain of salt, especially with the SEAL Team 6 bin Laden raid.
But I do believe something did happen there.
And if you remember, there was a helicopter crash on site, and that helicopter didn't look like anything that had ever been revealed to the public before.
Well, he talked about that on Tucker Carlson.
He said, you know, they revealed that they had these helicopters that had never been used operationally.
He said the president of the United States had never even seen these things.
And he likened them to quote-unquote transformers.
So, you know, again.
Really?
Yes.
So the idea that we don't have these projects, these programs in the realm of technology that are not under the purview of, you know, Trump sometimes goes out there.
He goes, we have weapon systems you've never seen.
You know, that's just what they're telling him.
Even with this latest Iran mission, right?
These multiple sites.
He said it was B-2 bombers.
I'm highly skeptical they used B-2 bombers for this.
I mean, that sounds like something out of Top Gun Maverick.
Why use B2 bombers when you have things that can fly higher for longer durations of time?
Or maybe you're not even using traditional means.
Maybe you are using things through the Strategic Defense Initiative or Star Wars program or quote-unquote space weapons.
You know, I know that sounds like something out of a science fiction movie, but it's literal technology that they've been openly discussing, creating, and deploying over my entire lifetime, Aaron.
Yeah.
Yep.
It's, again, I just wonder, you know, like, and for the president to not know a lot of this stuff, I figure they look at it like they don't want to burden the president with some of this information because then they know something they probably shouldn't know and could be considered guilty for knowing it, especially if it was a legal activity, which happens all the time in a clandestine manner with these organizations.
Well, they always like to create that circle of plausible deniability.
You know, outside of a technology realm, you could go to the Iran hostage situation, which, of course, is connected to Iran-Contra.
But you had Reagan out there saying, hey, you know, we didn't trade weapons for hostages.
We weren't involved in any of this stuff.
I truly don't think he had any idea.
I don't think he signed off on any of it.
I think that, you know, George Bush was doing these things behind the scenes.
He had the connections to the Intel community, heading up the central intelligence agency just prior to becoming vice president and, quite frankly, having almost a lifelong relationship with the Intel community.
So I think that we've been in a situation for a very long time, unfortunately, where certain things are not told to the president on purpose, but we've strengthened that bureaucracy over the years.
You know, I just mentioned George H.W. Bush.
It was really during the Reagan and then the Bush administration where they strengthened the continuity of government program, which a lot of this stems out of.
And they were able to take those executive powers outside of the presidential office and put them into black sites, into covert operations, into classified technology, really under this guise that we were in this more dangerous world and it wasn't just nuclear attacks, but so much more that could turn our government upside down and on its head.
And that's where, you know, people love talking about the deep underground bases now.
That's a real thing.
And a lot of that infrastructure was created not only post-World War II and into the Cold War, but continues to be modernized to this day.
You know, a lot of people forget that Elon Musk also owns the boring company.
If you even remember what the boring company is, you probably associate it with that ridiculous flamethrower that he sold.
No, that company is building and facilitating underground bases for the U.S. government and its government contractors.
So this is something that continues to this day, Aaron.
Oh, yeah.
Would you like a Pepsi?
I'm a Coca-Cola.
I'm like us.
Oh, you're a Coca-Cola guy.
Okay.
Well, that was always one of my favorite parts of Spies Like Us, which I've probably seen like 30 times because he used to be on regular TV on like Sunday mornings.
They'd have spies like us on.
Man, that was a good one.
But yeah, they got one of those black ops operations down below, an old drive-in in the middle of the desert, and you'd walk in and would you like a Pepsi?
And then they dropped in like 4,000 feet into the ground or whatever.
It's funny to me, like getting to chance now to start talking to you more.
You know more about George H.W. Bush than I think you put out there or you have suspicions because he kind of had his hands everywhere.
He was in Dallas the day Kennedy got shot.
He was the one briefing other people on what happened.
And we know there was probably another gunman.
Just makes my eyebrow go up a little bit.
Benny's running the CIA and kind of just fields right into the vice presidency.
And I don't know.
We might have to deep dive on H.W. Bush here one of these days.
Yeah, you know, you're discussing a lot of the stuff that I put into Invisible Empire and New World Order to find after I get into the Iran-Contra segment.
And I show this network that reaches not only from Iran-Contra, but into the Bin Laden network and BCCI Banking, a banking organization most people are not familiar with at all, the Bank of Criminal and Cartels International, but at the same time, Wait, wait, wait.
There's a bank for criminals and cartels?
That wasn't its actual name, but it was BCCI.
So they gave it the acronym.
Wait a minute.
Yeah, okay.
Sorry.
I just had to make sure my brain was catching what my ears were telling me.
So BCCI actually ended up having a bunch of its executives arrested.
And when they started delving into it, it was not just Iran-Contra.
It was the Mujahideen.
It was Bin Laden.
You name it.
Now, although that bank got caught and they had to do a little magic, they didn't even shut everything down.
Banks like JP Morgan, Barclays, remember, they're paying out in this Epstein scandal.
Why would they be doing that?
Well, because they're still up to the same exact thing, money laundering for arms deals, drug deals, political backdoor deals, you name it.
That's how the system works.
And BCCI, I mean, again, they truncated that investigation.
Bush, during the time, you know, obviously utilized those networks.
And in that documentary, I show you how he came up really in the Intel community.
Prescott Bush was an OSS guy, becomes the governor of New York.
They can't really get George H.W. Bush elected.
So he's never officially a member of the Central Intelligence Agency, but there seems to be this picture of him possibly in Dallas that day.
But the document you're talking about is the document in which the Central Intelligence Agency actually briefs J. Edgar Hoover, the head of the FBI at the time on the Kennedy assassination.
And it is supposedly a George Bush who briefs Hoover.
George H.W. Bush is one of those characters in history that I think we're going to find out a lot more about in the next several decades.
I don't think that history is going to do that guy any favors.
And I think it really does speak to the fact of how the world really worked through individuals like him.
For instance, even on 9-11, Aaron, it's not an Invisible Empire.
It's actually in Fabled Enemies.
George H.W. Bush was the Bush who was in the White House on the morning of 9-11.
His son was down in Florida reading My Pet Goat.
But H.W. was actually in the White House and then went to a meeting, I believe, with one of Bin Laden's brothers.
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I mean, don't get me wrong.
Bin Laden's got about, you know, over a Baker's Dozens brothers, but it was at a, I want to say it was a Halliburton energy meeting.
I could be wrong about the meeting, but I know that he went and sat down in a meeting.
The Bushes and Bin Ladens had done business for decades prior to 9-11.
They vacationed.
Didn't they get him out of here?
Like, didn't they get the bin Laden family out of here after that happened?
So, again, in Fabled Enemies, you can actually watch the family, or at least members of that family, getting into their private planes and leaving the country while most flights were grounded.
That's 100% true.
Yeah, I got to watch that one.
Yeah, I got to digest all your movies so I got all the background information in my own head.
At least what I can remember, that's swimming around between all the malted hops.
But, you know, it's, I highly recommend everybody, you get a chance, check out some of Jason's documentaries.
It gets your brain going, man.
That's for sure.
And that's why I love talking to you.
We are deep in the weeds with Jason Burmese, right to my River Cities Reader.
And we're running out of time here.
We've got about 15 minutes left.
Let's talk about Area 51 a little more, if you don't mind.
Yeah.
Or homey airport, as they call it.
You know, the thing that really gets me about Area 51 is as soon as you say it, almost immediately, I would say that there's this visualization in people's brains of gray aliens or what we think gray aliens look like.
And I think that's totally on purpose.
I think that we have been conditioned to believe somehow that Area 51 is where all the alien aircraft are, and that's where they've got the grays, et cetera, et cetera.
I don't know that any of that's true.
I am highly skeptical of everything alien, especially in regards to Area 51, Roswell, you name it.
Andy Jacobson has done just an amazing job of dissecting at least what we publicly can know about Area 51 these days, as a lot of the work was done through Lockheed Martin and contractors.
That's where, you know, the Silverbird comes from.
I already mentioned the Oxcart.
But, you know, those programs that were post-World War II, you know, they've kind of dismantled Area 51.
Who knows how many more of these sites they have?
That had been going on all the way through the late 90s, early 2000s.
Yes, I think they're working on propulsion systems.
Yes, weapon systems.
I don't think it's a coincidence that you see a lot of the quote-unquote UFO sightings, now UAP sightings in that general vicinity.
And the big one is they did a lot of nuclear testing there.
A lot, a lot of nuclear testing.
Yes, 739 of 928 nuclear tests conducted by the United States Department of Energy have been carried out there.
And you just mentioned a department a lot of people don't even know exists, the DOE, the Department of Energy.
The Department of Energy is behind some of the biggest black projects out there, you know, up and until today.
The Department of Energy even has a role in the COVID-19 nightmare, believe it or not.
You know, when I was talking to Andrew Huff, who was the vice president of EcoHealth Alliance, and for those that don't know, EcoHealth Alliance is the privatized company with the gain of function on basically what was a U.S. project.
You know, a lot of people like to talk about Wuhan China.
Well, this project started in the United States.
It started at Chapel Hill.
It started at institutes in New York and through the Department of Energy itself.
Even during the Clinton administration, Aaron, when they had to come out with this large report of government human experimentation, where they had done horrific things not only to military members, but civilians and people in prisons without their knowledge or consent.
Again and again and again, the Department of Energy is mentioned.
So when you're talking about nuclear power, you're talking about a plethora of things.
You're talking about weapon systems.
You're talking about energy.
You're talking about managing the experimentation that goes along with that, etc.
The Department of Energy is key, and they kind of work hand in hand at these black sites like Area 51.
So to me, you know, Area 51 has been kind of made into this cartoon where everybody's like, that's where the aliens are.
That's where the aliens are.
No, that's probably where.
Alien storage.
Yeah.
Well, not only the propulsion systems, but probably some human experimentation that's going on in there.
Are you aware of what a chimera is?
Yeah, C-H-I-M-E-R-A, some sort of like a, isn't it sound like mythology?
It's a human with some extra stuff going on, some animal stuff.
So kind of.
So yes, like it does go with that kind of Greek mythology motif.
But essentially, other than being an awesome metal band, chimera is when you take the genetic material of one species and you splice it with another species.
So it doesn't necessarily have to be human, but we have had human chimeras now openly discussed via universities, even the gestation process for decade upon decade.
I can only imagine what they have done underground and in black sites with this type of technology to create super soldiers, to create different types of biological materials.
I mean, I'll just say this.
I can probably not even imagine what has been done behind closed doors.
But getting back to Epstein, just in a roundabout way, Epstein was doing that type of experimentation on his islands, not island.
He had multiple islands.
Again, Bannon is sitting on supposedly 15 hours of videos with Epstein.
When he asked him about the island, he said there were islands and he said, islands of Dr. Moreau.
And he said, yes.
And Dr. Moreau is that story of this guy doing genetic experimentation and creating these animal-human hybrids.
Yeah, that was, let's see, Brando was in the movie, wasn't he?
Yeah, although a lot of the scenes that you think are Brando.
Yeah, no, no, it's a Brando movie.
It's a disaster of a movie.
Oh, yeah, it's not a good movie.
Well, Brando, the Brando character, like over half the time on camera, isn't even Marlon Brando.
It's some other guy.
Brando's tired.
I'm going to take a break on this one.
You be me, buddy.
Yeah, not a great movie, but yeah, I know the concept of what you're talking about.
Yeah, and even The Simpsons parodied that one.
One of the better parodies, also in a Treehouse of Horror episode.
See, you get it all here, folks.
You get the geopolitics, you get the conspiracies, and you get the pop culture.
There you go.
It's a mishmash.
A good time.
Every time.
For sure.
So, you know, if it feels like that, Area 51 is like, no, no, yeah, this is where we keep all the aliens.
No, really, look, while you know, over there behind the curtain, you really see what's going on.
I mean, from not only weapon systems, but energy systems that could empower humanity.
I think those are the type of things that are going on.
Hell, even the fact that we're now openly discussing using many nuclear reactors on site at data centers probably lets you know that that technology has been refined time and time again at sites like Area 51 and others that have been experimenting with the technology literally since the 40s and 50s.
So the good stuff could make things probably better, easier, let's say to provide energy for people on a mass scale, but they don't want to let us know they got the good stuff.
You know, like, eh, you know, like you said, Trump said, and he has on a number of occasions.
Oh, we have weapons you've never even seen.
I'm sure we do.
Yeah, I'm sure we got technology.
Who knows if they figured out cold fusion?
They just don't want to tell us.
You know, I feel like there's a lot of that.
A lot of like, well, what's really going on kind of thing.
You know, it's funny you mentioned cold fusion years ago.
Oh, here we go.
When I was doing interviews for Loose Change Final Cut and Dr. Stephen Jones, I think he was like BYU professor.
He was one of the first guys to come out and question World Trade Center one, two, and obviously seven, and the fact that they came down in the manner that they did.
He talked to me about some of the black project work that he was able to do with Cold Fusion.
You know, he said he couldn't really talk about much, only that he had taken part in some of these kind of projects.
And that's often what they do.
You know, some of these people only come in and see a glimpse.
That's how compartmentalization works for a short period of time on technologies that may or may not be ready.
Cold Fusion is one of those ones where NASA has openly discussed it.
I often talk about Dennis Bushnell.
He headed up a couple of different groups on that.
There's the Jason group.
It's not just Jason Burmes, but the Jason group.
And the Jason group is actually discussed quite a bit in Area 51 as this group of scientific wise men.
And often, you know, with government agencies, it's like an acronym.
This time, it's not.
It actually, the scientist that they kind of came to through the Defense Department to create this group was asking his wife what they should name the group.
And they took it from the Jason and the Argonauts story.
So the Jason group is supposed to be this group of wise men that know better than us, that get a glimpse into this kind of technology that apparently, you know, the general populace can't.
And they work on those programs.
I'm not sure if Jason is still around, but they were around at least in the early 2000s.
In fact, it might not be Area 51, although I think they do talk about that.
It might be in her book, DARPA, the Pentagon's Brain.
Right on.
Man, I don't know how you keep all this stuff straight in your brain.
Like, your ability to recall is just completely insane.
Well, I appreciate that.
I don't know if it's completely insane.
I collected a lot of baseball cards as a kid, and I could probably still name every single player from that era.
Oh, yeah, I collected a lot of cards too.
I remember on the back of John Stahlworth's 1983 Tops card, it talked about him selling insurance in the offseason.
See, that's the kind of exciting stuff that I thought that I was going to be involved in in my later years.
It just, you know, happened that, you know, I was alive in a time period where 9-11 really did change the world completely, totally upended my worldview.
When I talk about it politically, I often say that our entire geopolitical system, both foreign and domestic, is based on the narrative that they sold us on that.
And it hasn't been for the better.
And as I see us moving into the future, I'm not sure we're moving in the right direction.
As I talk about these technologies, and I talked about those mini nuclear centers at these mega AI data centers that are being built around the country and the world, the other thing that they're planning on doing is using our water at a mass level for that.
So, you know, that's I'm, you know, we talked about the air.
The water is going to be just as important in the next five to 10 years because these data centers are going to take massive, massive amounts of water to cool them down.
And if, in fact, they utilize nuclear power, folks, nuclear power only, you know, is used to actually create steam, which creates the energy, which you need water for.
I mean, that's how ignorant most people are.
They don't even know what the source of nuclear energy really is.
So I see a lot of changes coming rapidly, especially in the realm of human resources that are essential, whether it be the air we breathe or the water we drink, Aaron.
Well, I've been saying for a long time, I thought by the time I'm old, well, I mean, I'm 47.
I say I'm old now, I feel old, but when I'm in my later years and maybe 20, 30 years, that water will be more important than oil on the worldview because I don't see, you know, there's more and more people all the time.
We use water and then don't get it back a lot.
You know, people leave water in water bottles.
It goes to the landfill, which sounds minuscule and silly, but when you think about how many water bottles are consumed every day and how many might be just half consumed and then thrown away like that, it starts to add up after a while on the scale of billions and billions per day.
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That's, you know, I don't know.
I worry about water a lot, to be honest.
That's something that concerns me, you know, that's going on.
But I don't know, fascinating stuff.
Let's talk more about, maybe we'll get into some water next week and figure out what else comes up here in the news and find something else classic like an Area 51 to shoot around to.