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Hey everybody, Jason Burmes here and we've got part two of our discussion on disclosure UFOs and beyond.
I really enjoyed part one and I know that you guys did as well.
I may have dominated the conversation in the first half, but I let a lot more people speak in the second half.
So please tune in and enjoy some making sense of the madness.
So yeah, that's a thing.
I'm just thinking of like, you know, energy, you know, manipulation and radio frequencies and stuff.
And, you know, going back to Walter Bosley actually wrote a book all about exactly what you just asked.
And it's funny because it fits right into the time period Matt is describing, The Empire of the Wheel, which describes a cult of people in California in the early 19th or early 20th century, 1910s around there.
And Aleister Crowley just so happens to be floating through the area as well.
And I'm surprised Matt hasn't brought this up yet, but we all know the lamb drawing, which Crowley professed to have made some sort of contact with.
Who knows if it was when he was off, you know, buggering his friend in the desert or in the pyramid where he was abusing his wife.
I don't know, but he communicated with this alien.
And Chris Knowles, to bring him back up again, one of the points he was making in a recent podcast I was listening to was that the bodies, the biological entities, they were never really described as living beings that were recovered at Roswell because they weren't living beings.
They were some sort of homunculus, some sort of gollum, this occult ritual that underpins, you know, what these beings are.
And again, you know, I think, Graham, one of the things that my takeaway is like, there's a little bit of a disagreement here.
I kind of agree with both sides in the sense that there is the supernatural, there is the mysticism, but the forces that be are manipulating like a middleman, our ability to interact with these forces.
And I think trying to mimic them and use that against us.
And one of the ways that they might be able to mimic these other entities is by creating a body for these entities to possess and then, you know, mess around in our dimension.
It goes back to the whole fallen angels concept and how all these ancient gods gave man technology.
And then, you know, lo and behold, 2000, however many years later, we're here, you know, birthing the AI alien consciousness with our technology that's wrapping its tentacles around the planet.
So I think all of it is ritual and occult.
And the more they can sort of throw it in your face in this Discordian way to make you question it and make you say, no, it's too good to be true, the better their plan works.
And I think the way they do that, someone already made this point in this conversation is through fiction and sci-fi.
And I think Burmese, you said you collect some memorabilia from the space age because it's just, you know, it's kind of hacky at this point.
But, you know, we look at that stuff and we're like, how cheesy?
You know, we can't even scratch the surface.
The latest Katy Perry and Bezos, that whole space launch, they barely scratched the surface of the thermosphere.
And they're talking about, oh, we're going into space.
It's all ritualistic.
It's all to move human consciousness away from a certain direction that's inevitable because they want to continue to have this control over us.
I think it's inevitable that we're going to be free from that.
And that's why they want to entrain us now to be conditioned to think anything otherworldly poses a threat.
And I'm not saying that, oh, well, the Space Brothers are going to rescue us from Big Bad Big Brother here on the planet, but I do think that we as human beings have a spiritual capacity that goes beyond just our own consciousness.
And if we can get in touch with that other world, we can use those forces to make a positive change in our reality, which is what the forces that be never want, right?
They never want us to excel towards an egalitarian or altruistic end.
So that's kind of my stance on aliens.
I think we all kind of agree.
And in a way, like Sam likes to say, we're sort of screaming in agreement in some ways.
Matt, what can I read about the Theosophy and those lodges and the murders?
it's the exact opposite of what I read in their materials I just wrote a book Volume 3 of my Revenge of the Mystery Cults on Edgar Poe's final mystery and other tales of ratiocination So I've got the last seven chapters in there are on Jack the Ripper murders and the esoteric section of the Theosophists.
And also Blavatsky's relationship with Mazzini and Garibaldi, who is Mazzini's agent running these sort of proto-global color revolutions and who unified the Memphis and Miss Ram lodges in 1880 that Blavatsky became, and she talks about it, an initiate into the Memphis Miss Ram.
This is a useful connection.
Based on what my family thinks I'm crazy was saying, yeah, I mean, one thing that caught my eye, and this came up a little bit before I think Jason mentioned it too, was the question of the big reveal of new technologies that are going to be increasingly spun out.
And you can see the narrative already setting the stage for that, where they're already putting out in congressional inquiries and an open dialogue, right?
That's being very highly amplified into the mainstream that we can expect the new tech that we, or the tech that we discovered from UFO reverse engineered spacecraft from Roswell and all of the other places that spacecraft supposedly crashed because these aliens can like do, you know, transcend the speed of light and jump from one dimension into another with such advanced technology, but they can't fly.
So they just crash into rocks all the time.
So we've been reverse engineering all of this stuff that they're sort of saying we can now expect new tech to be brought into the public light.
One thing I have noticed is that Lawrence Rockefeller was the founder of the first tech venture capital firm in 1946 with the whole Rockefeller Brothers Fund.
And not just him, but Putoff as well has made a fortune off of this sort of thing, as has Jacques Felet.
One thing that I've sort of been picking up on is that there's been an approach where the look.
So the oligarchy, they like stasis and they like control, right?
I think we all agree the oligarchy loves control.
They like predictability in their victims.
They don't like people getting too unwieldy with new discoveries.
So they like monopolizing the discoveries and resources that are currently in play at any given moment.
They would prefer not to have too much unknowns into the formula.
New creative discoveries about the laws of the universe are pretty disruptive and not pleasant for oligarchs that are obsessed with stasis and control.
There's a lot of frontier science and great research that has been done over the last 80 years on different approaches to the quantum, to atomic physics, to plasma, plasma tech, all sorts of incredible things.
And there's some serious case studies where scientists like James Boussard, the father of nuclear rocket science of the 60s, James Boussard was developing all of these incredible designs based on his studies of Kepler's, sorry, Plato's Timaeus.
And he was basically building what are known as polywell devices in the 80s and the 90s that would create resonance frequencies such that plasmas could be organized that would then generate fusion processes at very low temperatures within the certain geometries that he would build up that would be tied to things like the truncated dodecahedron as one.
But there's several chambers like that.
Costs money, though.
So he got money at a certain point from Lockheed Martin, the U.S. Navy, and he thought he was in a great spot, you know?
And at a certain point, he's making prototype after prototype.
They're getting better and better.
And by 2007, you can go on Wikipedia and they describe this.
He starts breaking the laws of known physics.
And at that point, he's iced out of his thing.
He's like 89 years old.
He ends up dying the next year, broken.
He's not allowed to participate.
And his discovery just disappears.
So it's gone.
It's absorbed into the shadow thing, right?
There's a friend of mine who's actually been doing some amazing work on another approach to Christian Bierkland's approach to plasma physics too and the electric universe stuff.
Now, he was making some incredible breakthroughs with a team in Canada and they started getting money from a grouping that was affiliated with Harold Putoff.
That Hal Putoff, right?
High-level seventh-degree OTO Scientology or operating theton.
Did I say OTO?
Maybe it's the same thing.
And so same thing.
Now, all of a sudden, his discovery is being stunted or the work that he's been doing, all of a sudden, they can't talk about it.
They sign certain things that will prevent them from speaking openly about the thing because they got the money.
They got the money to build their devices.
So all I'm saying, though, is that there has been a technique used under the veil of what appears to be capitalism, but it is not really that to try to corner new technologies and new innovations and then only allow spin-offs that would be selected by those oligarchs to then make money on the one hand, but to control those frontier sciences.
I'd say one of the things, Harry Houdini made a movie.
He made some of the original movies in 1916, 17, 18.
Some of them are really frigging good.
And one of them has a scenario.
I'm forgetting the name, but it's in my book.
It has a scenario of an investigator who discovers that uber-rich industrial capitalists on Wall Street are trying to steal patents that they, or not steal, but purchase patents in order to prevent new technologies from being developed for the civilian sector.
What a crazy sci-fi out-of-the-box story that is.
He's exposing all this stuff, and he's doing this in battle with Aleister Crowley, who's also doing the exact same thing, making movies for a very different reason in New York at the same time as Houdini.
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And there's a massive fight over the culture going on.
So it's have you gotten into nukes aren't real yet, Matt?
I'm on the fence.
I think they're new.
I think it's real.
All right.
Let's make sure we get Weezy in here too, because he's been sitting patiently on the sideline along with Tees and Logan.
Let's jump in.
We're learning about all this, Wheezy.
You've been working on this stuff for a while.
Well, when I was a kid, I wanted to believe like the X-Files.
And then as soon as the government started talking about disclosure and started getting involved, I'm like, I think I'm out.
I'm just a huge skeptic when it comes to these things.
I will say a couple of months ago, I saw my first UFO as a non-believer, and it scared the shit out of me.
I'm out here in Florida.
I was about an hour and a half inland from the beach, five in the morning in this new subdivision.
I'm the only one out there.
Left my phone in the truck, went and took a piss outside, and I just started gazing at the sky.
And I had done a moon landing show.
I do these moon landing shows once a month on my channel with the Apollo detectives.
And I saw a satellite traversing the sky.
And I was just tracking and tracking.
I'm like, man, those sons of bitches ain't really that high.
So I was just pondering, taking a piss, dick in hand and all.
And then as I looked ahead of the satellite as it was going across the sky at a steady little, you know, slow pace, all of a sudden, this other motherfucker comes up and starts jumping around the son of a bitch high up in the sky.
And I'm like, I couldn't fathom what the fuck I was looking at.
I was like, it's not a fucking asteroid.
It's not a comet, shooting star, or nothing.
It starts going around the satellite thing.
And then it started descending super quick.
I mean, it started like as a grain of sand, and then it got probably to the size of a quarter of the size of a P and it started descending.
And it felt, I'm not saying this is what was happening, but it felt like that bitch was coming right towards where I was.
So I started like, what the fuck?
Do I go into the truck and grab my phone?
But the way it was moving so fast, I felt if I would have gone to my truck to get my phone, by the time I come out, I'm going to miss all this shit.
So I just kept looking at it.
And then it started descending.
Like I said, and it felt like about the quarter size of a P.
And then the motherfucker just went poop straight up in two seconds or less, disappeared.
I'm like, I have no fucking clue what does that hops around in the sky.
And then just boom, disappears.
It didn't disappear in the sense, you know, just like blink of an eye.
I did see it head straight up and then it just got so high up, I couldn't see it anymore.
I don't know what the hell that was.
Was it alien craft?
Possibly, or is it high-grade military equipment?
That's also possible.
It was right around the time when people were seeing drones and shit.
You know, it kind of coincided.
So I don't know.
To this day, I don't know.
That was a few months back.
I'm still up in the air.
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But like I said, man, when I hear the government talking about it openly and disclosure and this, I don't trust anything those fuckers say.
So that kind of kind of affects my judgment.
And they're not going off the rails just right now.
Good on you, Easy.
Good for you, dude.
Guilty until permanent innocence.
I appreciate your series, which I have watched in hand.
Just said, I would appreciate your series.
I think, yeah, that's an angle that people look at.
It's the whole angle.
Again, I want to push back on something that a few people said.
I don't think the government is getting you to think regular folks.
There's a faction of intelligence people that have bought themselves from journalists.
They have also utilized people like Tom DeLong with a lot of face, a lot of money.
They have a longstanding history of trying to push this forward into the mainstream.
Other factions have been resistant and didn't want aliens and UFOs in the mainstream, but they have broken through and they have managed it very cleverly.
I mean, there was a lot of influencers and journalists who've admitted they were approached and told that there was information to be given to them.
If you look at Stephen Greenstreet, Brian Bender, some of these guys, they come out and said they realized they were being manipulated to bring out a controlled narrative from this group, right?
Schellenberger, he got pushed into it.
Weinstein, you know, a lot of these guys were approached.
They're mitting it now, right?
So there was an organized thing to get these media people out there, influencers, you know, Coldhart, a failed kind of journalist whose career had gone off the rails.
They knew what they were doing and they've managed to time it at a time when the other factions are open to it because of the drone stuff and other things that are happening.
There's no longer the resistance that these people have had for decades to get this out into the mainstream.
And it is a lot to do with the Scientology.
I mean, most of the guys, SRI, Scientologists, guys, like Matt was talking about.
And if you look again, you've got a lot of the guys from the Rosa Cube recruits crucial movements are involved.
These people, a lot of them believe that this is an occult topic.
They're not just doing that as part of the brainwashing.
A lot of them believe this.
If you go back to like, say, the nine channels, we're getting a kind of a reboot.
If you aren't familiar with the nine channels, you know, you had a collective of billionaires, intelligence people, you know, you had the brain, the original brainwashers, they were all involved.
You had Gene Roddenberry, the whole Star Trek thing coming out of it, the nine.
You know, this is rebooting because if you look now with what's happening with this story through News Nation, that you're getting this whole movement around the psionics and making contact.
And they're all going off, they're meeting billionaires in these retreats and they're contacting orbs.
But the organization doing that is called the NAA.
The NAA is the NA.
That's the nine.
That's the same shit.
The same stuff is just recycled.
So you've got a whole load of billionaires, journalists, intel people.
It's the same thing.
A lot of these people are even connected through each other back to the original stuff.
So again, this isn't your government officially doing something.
There is a faction of people that have been involved in this since day dot.
And it does connect in with the psychedelic legalization movement and the billionaires that are in that because they want you open your mind to what they think is contact with these intelligences, what they believe are their gods.
There's some really weird stuff in this.
It's not all about, you know, aliens and spaceships in the sky.
Most of this is occult topics.
And as long as people get the idea, it's all about a spaceship in a hangar.
You are target number one for those people because people are not defending their mind space because they feel the UFO topic is one thing and it's something else.
I mean, you know, very little of it is even about researching UFOs anymore.
You know, it's about stories.
It's about insiders.
It's about narratives.
Can you tell which narrative is true?
You know, and which persona is important right now?
Very little to do with actually some kind of scientific analysis of anomalies in the atmosphere.
That is a tiny fraction of this topic.
You know, so it's, I don't think it's, yeah, it's not what most people think is.
Look at the whole thing with the insiders.
Quickly, I said a few months back, I told people, you're going to have so many of these insiders, you won't know what to do with them.
We need more insiders.
Now we have dozens of them.
Has it brought any evidence of anything?
No.
Instead, anyone who has an intel background, who was a senior military officer, can come out with a story that they have been basing on the same ship from the same people, that they're networking with each other.
And they'll come out and say, I saw a spaceship or I saw this document.
And now you've got a flood of these people and not one of them has evidence of anything.
And they are controlling the narrative.
It's just a whole collective of interwoven figures built around this old story they've been pushing for decades.
That's ufology right now.
That's the alien topic right now.
It's very little to do with any entities.
Even if you whether you believe in entities or not, it's kind of semi-irrelevant.
The first thing people should do is defend their mind space from these narratives and then look into the other stuff separately because this topic's not really about investigating UFOs anymore.
What muddies the waters, though, is AI, man.
AI is getting damn good.
And I mean, the last few, just in the last few weeks, I want to say, I mean, even a few weeks ago, you could look at a video.
Oh, look at that jacked up hand.
Look at that messed up animal morph into a different animal.
It was, you could still tell.
Man, the last few days, I'm blown away with some of the stuff I've been seeing.
And it kind of coincides.
Dude.
And it's amazing how a lot of this stuff, I mean, the Epstein videos coming out.
It coincides with this new AI program coming out.
It's made me start to take a second look at shit from 10, 20 years ago, because we know intelligence agencies and the military has had their hands on this stuff way longer than we're allowed to have it.
And it's just coming out now.
So, man, that muddies everything up.
Yeah, Phoenix Lights, 97, everything now going back.
And Bruce, you nailed it with this.
The UFO video is dead.
You're absolutely right.
As if they were maybe ever real to begin with.
Who knows how far back this shit goes, guys?
You know what I mean?
They've got, I know Logan in his work, he found Photoshop going on back in the late 1800s.
So they've been doing photo manipulation for a long time.
Talk about that, Logan, while we've got you here.
Well, thank you.
Thank you, guys.
And thank you, Brandon.
This is a lot of y'all are why I do this now.
So it's really cool to see all y'all on my computer, really.
Excuse me.
I wanted to remind y'all, which I'm sure y'all have heard Frederick Engels' quote in 1878.
Weapons used have reached such a stage of perfection that further progress, which would have any revolutionizing influence, is no longer possible.
Not only have new weapons been developed, but some of the basic concepts of geography and strategy have been fundamentally altered.
Space and weather control have replaced the Suez and Gibraltar as key elements of strategy.
That was in 1878.
So kind of tells you where we are today, if they were saying that back in 1878, right?
And with the whole, you know, UFO thing, I knew once Action Bronson was watching Ancient Aliens on the, whatever that show was called.
What was it called?
Brandon, do you remember?
The rapper that would watch Ancient Aliens and he was just sitting there in smoke.
And I'm like, they had to double up on ancient aliens.
The history channel wasn't enough.
They needed to put this guy in front of it too.
And that's when I was like, okay, I mean, I was in the Gaia hole.
I was paying that monthly fee on Gaia.
I was listening to those stories about triangle beings and beings and stuff.
And now I just kind of can laugh at it.
But yeah, thank y'all for letting me be here.
Yeah.
Teese, what do you make of this?
You do a really good job of reaching normies.
UFOs have always been, you know, UFOs and Bigfoot are things that normies talk about before, I mean, before the deep state or before central banking, you know, they don't even get to that.
Your first sort of introduction, maybe it's through stories or maybe it's through movies, or typically, you know, UFOs and everything's fine.
And maybe there are space brothers and maybe they're coming to murder us.
But how do you, how do you deal with this topic when it comes to speaking to normies?
Oh, that's a great question.
Man, it's a, I think of like the trajectory of the story that we're all on is kind of like built like a theme park and conspiracy theorists got to see some of the stuff that was going to be coming up later from behind the scenes.
And then as it's scrambled together in front of us and we observe those things that we got little kind of predictive programming glimpses of, we're like, oh, that's this or this is that.
It's really difficult to get people's mindsets up to the weirdness of reality because it's kind of every science fiction movie crash together at once.
And it's not until you go through the ride that it's even believable.
So at a certain point, you can't even warn them.
All you can really do is try and create a show good enough to show them something that garners their attention.
So they don't want to be on that ride anymore.
A big part of what we were born into is a subjugating structure that gives us light shows, kind of like smoke and light bread and circus.
Some of the bread is real and circus is all around us.
And the more in which we entertain that way of being, the less entertaining it's going to be until at a certain point, it's just kind of just like a cliff into the abyss.
And that's what this all builds up to at a very certain point.
It isn't just like the fun dynamics of how they've been psychologically programming us.
It's what it all amounts to.
And that is the contemporary modality of warfare.
They can't get away with things the way that they once were, which is baby boober generation.
You know, they're about to dip off.
And so too is their conception of normalcy.
What is normalcy that comes post baby boomer predictive programming model?
A la the way in which Dune and that sort of thing has given us the Isaac Asimov kind of like Tesla template scripts for we already know all of this.
Everything I just said gave you a vivid kind of flicker in your own mind.
That is them chipping you.
That has already happened to mankind.
So what the fuck does something that isn't built out of their building blocks look like?
It actually involves taking a big old step back and returning to basics in life.
And what that is, is understanding that whatever weird smoke and mirror show that they're about to throw at us, and it's going to be a big one and it's going to be incredible.
And it's going to take all of our focus and energy to try and differentiate and delineate and decipher the mess that is coming at humanity because it's built to be that kind of chaos.
That's war.
What comes after that?
What comes out of that?
I look forward to seeing where that conversation goes, people, because it is an occult one and it is a who knows where it ends one.
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And it's a merry-go-round that I don't want to be on.
But I tell you, if we all take a big old step back together and learn not just what we've heard, but what we actually know, maybe we'll have a chance of putting that jigsaw together and it'll be on this show.
So thank you everyone for coming out today and for participating in a wonderful plethora of opinions about a very important conversation that is ongoing.
And it's going to be interesting to see how it evolves into the next stretch of things.
You get a Howard Dean teeth.
Got to love your face, dude.
Fuck.
Yeah.
It feels, you know, it feels like we're watching a show too, because you feel like you have no say in it.
You feel like you have no ability to get up and walk out of the theater and watch something else.
Know it's being kind of forced upon us by the worst people around, by the least trustworthy people around.
You know, and I get you talked about Stephen Greer.
Yeah, he makes a documentary.
Okay, he makes a few of those.
Great.
What do you think of Stephen Greer?
Oh, I don't know.
My first question would be: where does he get his money?
Oh, it comes from the Rockefeller family.
All right, well, that's automatic disqualification in my book, just automatic.
And Hillary Clinton is tied to them as well, too.
It's like, oh, maybe, maybe this is the good Rockefeller.
No, no, he's no, they're not.
There's no good Rockefellers.
He's just the one you don't hear about as much.
But he's deeply involved in UFOs and all of that.
So it makes me very suspicious when I see the least trustworthy people in the world hovering around this topic, be it Hillary Clinton, Lawrence Rockefeller, or whoever.
You know, I'm interested.
I'm open-minded.
I'm skeptical, but it goes back to my preference on the information being delivered to me by, oh, I don't know, not Hillary Clinton and John Podesta, just as a start.
You know, I can't accept that.
Let's say Charlie on the Rockefeller thing, just quickly to introduce you a little bit.
If you know the famous photo, the Rockefeller ranch, you know, where you've got Greer and Bigelow, whatever.
But the really interesting character is the guy, last guy to the right.
I think CW 22nd, but he's the Intel guy.
And he is the main person orchestrating with Rockefeller's money.
This guy was so embedded into the ufology movement of the time that he is the actual like architect.
He was also in the paranormal conferences.
He was everywhere.
And he said, there's an article.
It's like, oh, the UFO guy you never heard of.
And this guy is there smiling in the corner, but everyone else is a little puppet on his string.
He's a very interesting character.
I'll have to pull out the thing synergy.
Is that C.B. Scott Jones, or is that somebody else?
Yeah, that's right.
C.B. Scott Jones.
And so he's standing on the end there.
He was getting the money from Rockefeller to help orchestrate a heck of a lot in the UFO and paranormal communities for the Air Force and the intelligence.
Really crazy stuff.
But he's the guy you don't get much about because, of course, he's the one sneaking doing all the actual work for Rockefeller, you know, with the money.
So, and with all the other people there, of course, great influencers from the top names of their time, all standing there, all getting the money, yet all being influenced by him.
You know, he's crazy.
Oh, sorry.
I was going to say, the other thing about Greer, the only thing I'll give Greer credit for is that he pushed back on Elizondo and all that stuff.
Other than that, I wouldn't give him much credit.
But I will say, at least he did push back on the whole DTSA Elizondo bit.
But then, is that so he can come back now?
It seems like he's getting brought back in from the cold, where suddenly, through the whole psionics thing, they've brought Greer back in.
And now it's like they're all somehow okay together.
You know what I mean?
So that was probably a setup anyway.
It's sort of a fake opposition who now suddenly they're all unified through the psionics.
So, can I ask if you're Lawrence Rockefeller, you've got all of this money and you're at the end of your life.
What does success look like for him?
What is a successful campaign?
What is all this money and influence by him at the tail end?
If he was investing in this narrative, what's the end goal?
Is it to confuse people?
Is it to keep people in a certain frame of mind where their thoughts are limited?
Like, what is the point of it all?
It's the legacy of the new world order.
And I mean, that's what David writes about in his own book.
You know, I think that quote by David, where he literally says, some people would accuse me and my family of going against the best interests of the United States to build a transnational organization, quote unquote, one world, if you will.
If that is the charge, I stand guilty.
And, you know, again, he's an intelligence guy, but Nicholas Rockefeller. was the guy that the man who did Freedom to Fascism, Aaron Russo, knew, and they became drinking buddies.
And it was Nicholas Rockefeller that let him on the secret that the plan was to chip everybody and associate their currency with that chip.
And if they ever screwed around, you just turn the chip off.
And he laughed about and haha.
And he said, you really want to do this to people?
He's like, yeah.
He's like, I'm worried about me and my family.
I'm really not worried about everybody else.
And I remember for a while, people had dismissed that because they couldn't find Nicholas Rockefeller.
Props to Aaron Dykes, Truthstream Media.
I remember when he tracked him down, he's like, Nicholas Rockefeller.
And this was after Aaron Russo had died.
Nicholas Rockefeller, legit dude.
So look, I think there is nepotism.
I think there are reasons that you have a Saudi royal family in 2025, a Buckingham Palace in 2025.
And that in large part, as far as family dynasties go, the Rockefellers are the last one.
You've got social climbers that are in on it right now, like Peter Thiel, who we mentioned earlier, and the Alex Karp gang and the Schmidts of the world and the Sergey Brins.
But their Defense Department approved, baby.
And they have been from the get-go.
So, you know, when the Rockefellers speak and invest in something, I pay attention.
It'd be as simple as Loosh Harvest, too.
I'm just thinking about, you know, what their end goal is from Charlie's original question.
I think that's a big part of the equation as well.
Why We Keep Talking About AI00:15:44
Well, this is a topic that I know we're going to have to cover over and over and over again.
I'm glad you guys came out for this one.
I want to make sure that everybody gets an opportunity to let everybody know where they are, what they're working on, because it's because I could tell just from this talk that there's a lot going on.
Matt, you're writing about things that Graham is interested in.
Oh, where can I find this information?
There's a lot of topics that got discussed tonight.
And I think it's important for people to take in a wide variety of information and see what fits best with you.
And also, there's a whole lot of backstory that we don't.
I mean, Matt, you write about this and your documentary series goes into a backstory of the UFO of the history of UFOs that I would have never thought went as far back as you took it.
So there's always more to learn about this topic.
And, you know, whether you're taking a piss and seeing a UFO like Weezy did, or you're reading about it and making documentaries, I mean, this is the reason why we do these shows, to get everybody to kind of bring their information to the table and let's throw it out there and see what we think about it.
Let's start with Matt because I know I want to make sure you get a chance to tell everybody where they can get your, where they can check out your series.
I've watched all four episodes of it.
It is fantastic.
It's from a story standpoint, it's great.
If you watched it with the volume off and just looked at the visuals, it would be a 10 just by that.
So, Matt, where can people find your documentary series, buy your books, and support your work?
Oh, sweet.
Thank you for those super nice words, Charlie.
Well, it's true.
Oh, well, yeah, so they can get the first three episodes of the hidden hand behind UFOs are freely available.
The episode four, I put behind a paywall, it's like five bucks on my sub stack.
And well, I guess the easiest way would be to find them on Canadianpatriot.org, or just send me an email and I'll send you links to them, including, well, yeah, so that's Canadian Patriot1776 at tutanota.com.
The books as well, the hidden hand behind, no, sorry, the um the revenge of the mystery cults.
And like you said, this stuff goes kind of dark and it goes far back into the ancient civilization stuff.
It goes into Swedenborg, the Rosicrucians, John D, the creation of the Mormons as another UFO cult that sort of seeded a lot of the other stuff that Aleister Crowley emulated and was inspired by.
So that stuff is those three books that I just put out are available also on my website.
Same one that I just mentioned.
And yeah, that's that's a lot right there.
Oh, and I just want to say one thing to Fenton Spectrum.
I think the thing before we start like allowing our convictions to take a leap into judging like I either one thing or another, like the I think taking an assessment of trying to understand as much as is understandable and available to reason about mapping out the terrain of these black magician, occult Rosicrucian Satanists.
Like really not being unrigorous on this.
Like I think we have to be as if we don't know why the Scientologists are a direct black magician outgrowth of the OTO of Aleister Crowley's Agape Lodge, which Parsons and Hubbard were doing sex magic and stuff, trying to invoke the Antichrist in the desert.
If we don't know and haven't taken the time to fully appreciate how that just got rebranded under the Scientology sort of front, then we didn't go far enough yet.
And I think that just doing some of that mapping, that mind work before circling back to the topic of UFOs, drugs, whatever our opinions are on these topics is important.
Just reserve judgment on that.
Put it aside, review the Satanists as much as you can, then return back to these topics that we might have feelings, strong feelings about one way or the other at the moment, you know?
So I would just support that little thought that you shared there, Fenton.
And please, Scientology, don't sue us.
Thank you.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I got threatened.
Anyway, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
You've got to be careful.
Yeah.
They're awesome.
No, these guys do not miss a beat.
Yeah, you got to be very careful with the words you use.
They're very litigious.
It's a dangerous cult.
Bruce Fenton, good to see you again, man.
Tell everybody where they can find you, where they can support your outstanding work.
Sure.
Yeah, I'm very quickly sorry as I say again.
I really enjoyed Matt's series.
So again, I definitely recommend that to everyone.
So hidden hand.
But yeah, if people want to have a look for me, I'm on Twitter too much, so you can find me on there.
There's a current one, they want genomics setting right handle on there.
Amazon, a couple of books.
Probably the most relevant one for this topic, the alien one, is exogenesis hybrid humans.
But I've got another one which is on human origins and stuff, which is The Forgotten Exodus.
And yeah, got a website, alien techno signatures doing a project that basically look.
I claim I'm the only person with any evidence of aliens because you know if they claim have a look, so I think got substituted linked on my Twitter, I think, and also the I think I've got stuff on YouTube stuff, but I mean, you know, probably tell people on Twitter if they want links and stuff.
Yeah, my last one, very quickly as well, just to kind of put you that the Israeli should say, where are all the Scientologists?
Where are the Radians?
Where are the Mormons?
All these alien groups.
If you think about it, they're quite quiet on social media, but they're definitely involved in what's going on right now.
So it's quite funny.
Looking, there's thousands of these people that don't seem to be announcing they're there, but they're definitely in play.
And they're talking to each other, networking against you in these topics.
If you've got to keep that in mind, that there's spouses in alien religions who have a very vested interest in what's happening right now.
And they're not announcing that.
So keep that in mind.
Yeah.
Cheers.
I appreciate this chat.
Great, great connection with everyone.
And yeah.
Thanks for staying up late with us in the UK.
Jason Burmes, what are you working on these days?
What's cooking?
Oh, you can check me out over at X Rockfin Rumble and of course YouTube where I'm completely demonetized.
You know, just really talking about transhumanism.
Did a video on Palantir and AI just before it was revealed that they were going to be doing the brand new database on individuals in the United States.
I got news for everybody.
There are multiple databases on all of you.
There's an Apple social credit score.
There's a Google social credit score.
So if you don't think the government has access to all that stuff, I don't know what you're paying attention to.
But all of this stuff is extremely dangerous.
And that's why I'm focusing my work on the military-industrial complex, the stuff that goes beyond left and right, the weaponization of space, AI, transhumanism, all the fun stuff, Charlie.
So please, I'm pretty much at Jason Burmese everywhere.
Give me a follow.
Give me a subscribe.
Check out all the documentaries for free that are now all a decade plus, I think almost 15 years old.
I mean, 2013 is the last one I put out.
Shade of the motion picture, Invisible Empire, Loose Change, and Fabled Enemies, Charlie.
Well, I don't know what you're so worried about.
I was told by the MAGA people that we don't have to worry about Palantir because they're aligned with Donald Trump and he's going to save us.
So I don't know.
We're the nerds on the connection of Palpatine.
Come on.
Brando, what do you do?
Let's talk to you.
Oh, shit.
What are you?
What are you working on?
You've got books.
We do actually.
Yeah.
So the journals are, we do a publishing house called Rediginal Publishing.
All words are made up.
So I figured I'd give it a go.
Rediginal means ridiculously original.
And so we do host a journal series that I've created that feature all kinds of cool stuff.
Charlie, you got some quotes in that bad boy, I think.
And they're very cool.
Amazon and Barnes Noble.
Just check for the expansion series.
We also have a few more from some other folks.
We're starting to publish other works and that we're not ready to speak on yet, but look forward to that.
You can find me at Expanding Reality Podcast All the Things.
I think that the Patreon is where I'd point you guys.
There's a ton of shit over there for free.
We host multiple series there that don't go out on the main feed, but they're absolutely free over there.
So go check that out.
Cinematic Alchemists, Frequency Theorists being another one.
This one we get together, we do all kinds of cool stuff.
We have episodes like The Moon is Bullshit and Helen Keller is bullshit.
So we talk about all kinds of stuff.
It is a two-hour talk about Helen Keller being bullshit.
It's great.
It's probably most likely a side for the socialist movement.
It's fascinating.
Anyway, Matt.
I think it's an A plus for the name alone, man.
It's a lot of fun.
And we rate them as questions, right?
Because Eric von Danikett's thing is a big deal.
And I think this is an important part of this, too.
There's a guy on the show, Andrew Benjamin, one time, and he said, the answer to life is the mastery of questions.
And if we're asking the right questions and make sure that we're also not claiming the fucking moon is real and lizard people are doing this and that, maybe the moon is bullshit.
And are lizard people doing this and that?
Maybe, you know, put a question mark on the end of the thing.
It gives us a lot more opportunity.
This is also where I'll just go on my little rant because you guys can find me on all the things.
Well, thanks for coming and thanks for inviting Logan from Luminary Lighthouse.
Logan, where can people find you?
Dude is a badass.
Logan, go check out his series on YouTube.
Yeah.
Thank you guys.
I really appreciate this.
This is a dream come true.
Luminary Lighthouse on YouTube and TikTok.
I've been doing a lot of TikTok lately, but it's just basically I read history with some sarcasm and it just works.
You know, so it sounds like bullshit immediately.
Yeah.
And I've got a video on YouTube called The Unknown Great Wall of Texas.
And it's not Rockwall, Texas, as everybody thinks.
It's in Milam County and Burleson County.
It's two newspaper articles I've found.
And I will be doing a presentation on Brandon's show in a couple of weeks.
So yeah, that's pretty much all I got going on right now.
Thank you again.
Thanks for coming.
We appreciate it.
How about you, Alex?
Where can people find you?
I know you're in Connecticut.
I don't mean down and find you, but I mean, where can they find your work?
Well, real quick, I just wanted to say, Logan, you got love your logo too on YouTube.
It's really nice.
Yeah, absolutely.
So Alex Ranielo, AB Ranielo on Instagram.
That's pretty much my major hub there.
Libertarian Party of Connecticut as well.
I'm a base mural artist here in Connecticut and Enfield area.
I wanted to say, if you're in the tri-state area, come say hello.
Let's do shrooms.
Let's have a nice conversation.
But yeah, looking forward to hopefully seeing Ricky and Mark in August for Sam's next show coming up here.
That'll be a lot of fun.
We had a great time last year.
So, and the other thing I wanted to say to anybody else, because we didn't have time to get to it, was I took up Charlie on his challenge to listen to Unchained Earth's Conversation with the Ether.
I thought that would be a great appendage to this episode, but that'll be a conversation for another day.
But anybody who's interested, definitely go check it out.
It's well worth the time commitment.
Yeah, that was that was weird.
And that goes back to Brandon's point about what that guy said about asking the right questions.
I think the people that are really taking AI to different levels have gotten skilled at asking the right questions, follow-up questions, maybe even berating or waterboarding your chat GPT a little bit into giving you actual answers and not taking those.
So to listen to these inter these conversations that people are having with AI, that one caught my attention.
Thanks to Brandon and Adam Schnell from Brain Supreme for sending that over to me.
And that really kind of screwed up my whole day after I listened to that.
I had to take a walk.
I'm like, my job.
Yeah, a bit much.
Weezy, I know you've got a busy week.
You're talking to Drew Treglios Saturday or what else do you have going on?
I actually had a fun one yesterday as well with an ex-singer of UB40 who got kicked out of the band for refusing the jab.
Interesting.
Yeah, dude.
It was a great conversation, man.
We hit it off and we're going to do another one next month.
We had some great chemistry last night.
But I've been doing Lincoln assassination research for the last almost two years, heavily inspired through the late, great David McGowan.
And if anyone's followed that rabbit hole, which I don't think very many have, but if you have, my takes are very, very different from anything you'll hear from any mainline historians.
And I'll back it up.
I'll show you why I believe the way I believe.
And it just goes to show we've been lied to from, you know, 160 years ago and perhaps from the very beginning of this country.
Just nothing but lies and lies and lies.
And you can search me by just putting in What is Truth podcast by Weezy?
You got to put it in the wheezy because there's some copycats out there.
And when you get kicked off of Google, it's a little bit harder to get found.
So, thanks for having me, right?
Oh, man.
I don't know if it's right.
I ain't making no damn money.
If they don't like you, then it's right as far as we're concerned.
If they're trying to silence you, then there must be something going on there.
So, awesome.
Uh, everyone, go check out what is truth with wheezy teeth.
Are you tired?
Are you in the uh, who are you editing right now?
You said that once you get into the editing of the mini docs, you wind up hating the people because you spend so much time looking at them.
Who are you hating right now?
Okay, well, you're okay, you're next, so I don't hate you.
No, we've all been we've all been in a thing that you did.
What that's a different thing, yeah, you were all uh not all of you, but many of you were uh participated in the plan to save the world, and thank you for that.
And that's on the line for anyone to watch anytime.
Uh, what I do is conspiracysynergy.com.
Um, the previous episodes were kind of like introductory stuff for friends and family who are just starting to exit the mainstream perspective, so they can go there, conspiracysynergy.com, in order to be able to check that out.
And recently, what Charlie's referring to are the mini documentaries that I'm making that go into the firsthand stories and accounts of a variety of different content creators.
One of them already being on Graham, uh, who's with us here today, and Darren, and uh, another one is on Herbohe Morick, and the last one was on Derek Rose.
And the one that I'm doing now is a combination of Ryan from T Lev, so that's uh Ryan Christian combined with Union of the Unwanted Crowd because we had Sam Tripoli there in Tennessee along with a bunch of other people.
So, it's a convergent episode to uh talk about Zionism and go into that kind of thing.
So, that's what I'm up to.
If you can support me, go to conspiracy synergy.com.
That's where to watch the mini documentaries, and then Charlie will be next.
This one will hopefully be out in the next three weeks.
That's what I'm up to.
Awesome.
Yep.
Uh, there'll be, I know that there's going to be some interesting footage of me with Sam Tripoli sitting on an outdoor swing in the Tennessee rainstorm with puppies on our laps talking about the new world order.
Sam Tripoli's Impact00:02:08
Yeah, so if you ever wondered if that was going to happen, the answer is strangely it did.
Speaking of Sam Tripoli, we've got Mark from My Family Thinks I'm Crazy podcast and the most essential component of Tinfoil Hat aside from Sam, I would say, the guy who makes it all happen.
What's going on over with you, Mark?
Wow, I don't know if Sam would agree with that, but thank you.
Oh, he would definitely not agree with it, but I'm going to say it anyway, because he wouldn't have a show if you weren't booking guests for him.
Cool.
Well, thank you, Charlie.
Uh, my family thinks I'm crazy.
Like you said, Graham was recently a guest along with his co-host, Darren.
And Charlie was a guest last month.
So, check it out.
Just put out a new episode with the guy who inherited the triangular manuscript from St. Germain.
His grandparents were telling him this legend when he was a kid, and then he grew up, realized it was something important to his family somehow.
And then he translated the famous triangular manuscript of St. Germain, which allegedly tells you how to find gold and some other interesting things.
So, yeah, that was a great podcast.
I just published it this afternoon.
So, go check it out.
Awesome.
Uh, Graham, how's Gray America doing?
Yo, we're doing pretty good.
Yeah, find everything at GrayAmerica.ca.
We're gonna, we got a couple trips.
We're taking Randall Carlson to the Azores to look for Atlantis in November.
There's like one spot left for that.
We're going to Easter Island next spring.
Um, like Matt mentioned there, we've got lots of audiobooks.
We've got Arthur Cornan Doyle's The History of Spiritualism.
Like Matt mentioned, he's sort of supporting the spiritualism movement.
And we got out lots of other audiobooks at adultbrain.com, like Leblotsa Blavatsky, Sun Crowley, H.G. Wells.
Folks, that was the second part of the disclosure panel.
I want to thank you guys so much for joining us here at patriot.tv, where the truth lives.
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