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We're going to be talking Trump 2.0, foreign domestic doge, the musker nuts, everything under the sun.
You're not going to want to miss it.
Buckle up and get ready to make sense of the madness.
And we are joined by Mel K.
She...
She's the author of Americans Anonymous, Restoring Power to the People, one citizen at a time.
You can get that over on Amazon.com right now.
We're a little over 40 days deep in Trump 2.0.
There's a lot to like.
There's still plenty to question.
There's the Epstein debacle to talk about.
And, you know, I think that's a good place to lead.
Yeah.
Because there's a lot of hopium out there in the conservative field of the Epstein list that doesn't exist, of these documents just coming out carte blanche.
Like some people actually believed that Pam Bondi, after she went on Jesse Waters, we're going to get like the magical revelations from the realm of Pandora or something.
And I'm just thinking to myself, okay, guys, I don't think you grasp the evidence they already have and the fact that if you are going to get anything new, if you've actually been listening to this administration and their promises, first of all, they can't release documents that show criminal behavior without indicting people and then prosecuting them.
Those documents don't become available until the court process and the evidence is presented in public.
So right there, anything new, folks, don't bank on it if it's criminal activity, period.
Today, there's a clip of her going around from the news last night where she says she's now gotten the documentation from the SDNY.
I've posted that clip.
I want people to pay attention to what she said.
She said, we got them all by, or hopefully got them all.
So again, a truck full.
A truck full.
A truckload.
But again, she doesn't even know if that's all the documents.
And they're probably not, because if you just have the SDNY stuff, why wouldn't you have all the stuff from Palm Beach?
Right.
And a lot of that stuff is publicly available.
But again, one of the things that's glaringly not publicly available are the other co-conspirators' names.
We do seem to know them from the documents out there.
The Leslie Groffs of the world, Heli Robinson, Sarah Kalin, et cetera, Nadia Marcinko.
But there could be more.
And it's not official.
But that's just bare minimum of those documents.
Where do you think the Epstein story is really going to go?
Because already now there's been a statement that not only the victims are going to be blacked out, but any national security issues.
I thought that the caveat was in the national security will be blocked.
Also, I believe that Khalain Maxwell is in the middle of an appeal also.
So letting, what are they going to let out that would jeopardize her case?
You know, I mean, you also have to look at the Southern District of New York as a whole, the Southern District of New York, back to Cy Vance and Perdeep that Trump fired.
But also, the Wiener laptop was never exposed at all.
He got a slap on the wrist instead of the insurance policy and all the emails that Uma had coming through C. Steed from Hillary Clinton, that disappeared.
And by the way, just to be clear, because a lot of people associate Wiener going to jail with that laptop.
That's not what happened.
I mean, that laptop never had any criminal repercussion whatsoever.
It was one of his 15-year-old victims that went public with the Skype conversations and the video capture that actually got.
Now, I want people to think about that.
If that occurred, then obviously his laptop was more than likely the thing used in the communication, and yet that never came out in the public arena.
So please continue.
No, that never came out.
But also, Southern District New York is where the Allan brothers took off after basically hacking the election and stuff and never were seen again.
And then also, Jason, you and I were both out there reporting it when the NYPD apparently and the field office of the FBI in New York went into Epstein's house.
We had a blackout in New York at the time.
And frankly, what I was told is that there were binders of CD-ROMs with names and ages on them and multiple binders, but also that there were hard drives and that they left them there, left, came back, and they were gone.
So, I mean, the evidence we need to see and know about is who was blackmailed, who was paying for the blackmail, because don't forget, as you know and I know, Prince Andrew and Epstein and others go back to the Iran-Contra.
They have a lot to do with selling weapons.
Les Wexner, his only client, ended up buying Air America and moving it to Ohio, where we know what happened with the head of Abercrombie and Fitch.
And of course, Epstein was promising all the girls Victoria's secret contracts, which Les Wexner owns both, never questioned.
And when we go into all of that, you and I both saw, I think Luke from We Are Change went down to the island and got footage.
We don't know.
People don't even know what happened on that island, let alone.
And when they're talking about 250 victims, if this started in the 90s, there are way more than that.
Jean-Luc Burnell, what do they have from him?
He was suicided.
And by the way, Jean-Luc Brunel is another example of this network and why it wasn't again.
The misnomer is they were flying down to the island to have sex with kids and there were clients.
No, no, no.
They were there for other reasons and then they were compromised depending on their taste.
It could have been of age girls and they're married.
You know, some people just don't want that blackmail, so they get divorced.
It was varying degrees.
And just about every single one of these girls ran through Epstein first.
We know about this recruiting.
So we're talking about hundreds, if not thousands.
For instance, Glenn Dubin, his name is there.
And Eva Dubin was a former girlfriend of Epstein.
Okay.
So Jean-Luc Brunel is photographed with them on private planes, photographed with them with his IDF, his Israeli Defense Forces hat on.
And he was another one of these people in the modeling arena.
So there's the one transactional thing, but they weren't paying.
For instance, if you look again at the publicly available evidence, not just the black book, but the planner, there is Jean-Luc Brunel's name, and then there's like whether or not these are two eight-year-old girls, right?
Yeah.
Now, Brunel, because he was record recruiting, and he would have been one of the few people, I think, that maybe got to some of these girls before Epstein and weren't just pawned off and it was kind of integrated together, but you both used to compromise individuals.
For those that don't know, he was arrested, criminally charged, and found dead in his cell in Paris.
I think now a little over a year and a half ago.
I could be wrong on the timeline.
Whether he committed suicide or not is a moot point.
They have a ton of information criminally on this guy, not just the FBI, but Inner Pole.
We're talking about intelligence services like MI5, MI6, overseas.
The list goes on, but continue, Mel.
Yeah, I mean, and that's why people saying that he was a massage agent.
It seems to me that Epstein was working for whoever paid him the most money.
And we still don't know that because I think that the top of this isn't Hollywood or D.C.
I think it's Wall Street and the banking system.
And don't forget, Chase had to pay $350 million to the victims, yet nobody was charged.
This is HSBC too.
So, I mean, look at what was happening in the Virgin Islands.
So, so much going on.
And then, of course, he was connected through Libra and the Human Genome Project and Harvard and MIT to all of that world and the Edge Foundation and the billionaire dinners.
I mean, there's so much evidence on Epstein out there that should be available.
And yet they're telling us that they had 200 pages and announced to the world that they were going to release them.
Then they have all these people come to the White House that have not covered this, okay?
And give them binders, and they're holding up the binders.
And you and I have dealt with some of the victims.
And all I thought in my heart was, oh my God, the last three days for them.
This is terrible.
And frankly, I don't know what's going to happen.
But if we don't find out, the money trail, frankly, I just think if Bill Clinton is never even questioned, this is dead.
And that's the worst part because to me, Bill Clinton is the most obvious person to question to at least give it a legitimacy that they care at all.
And then, of course, the head of the FBI in New York, I mean, the head of the FBI in New York yesterday was resigned or let go or whatever.
But that guy's been there the whole time.
Every single person that is in the Southern District of New York basically either came in under Obama or Clinton.
And at the end of the, you know, the Southern District of New York is basically where big cases go to die.
And I don't know.
I don't have much hope other than it coming out from people, not likely our government, but from other people.
But I don't know what's going to happen.
All I know is that a lot of little boys and girls and adults, I'm sure as well, were trafficked.
I believe that it had something to do with Haiti and the Clinton Caribbean Island Initiative.
And don't forget, as you know and I know, in the first case, Epstein's lawyer sent a letter to the judge saying that he started the Clinton Global Initiative, Clinton Foundation, with the Clintons.
And the other guy that started it with him jumped off a building, Stephen Bing, in LA during COVID.
So whatever's going on, it definitely connects to the Clinton Global Initiative, Clinton Foundation, whatever happened in Haiti, and all this other stuff.
So, I mean, it's very deep.
And to release the Epstein things would be to start telling the story of 20 years of this operation.
I think it would be more than 20.
I think you'd probably be looking at 40 or 50.
And if you get into Glene Maxwell's father, you already can go back further than that, where, again, a media mogul was running intel operations, not just with Israel, not just British intelligence, but also Russian intelligence as well.
And that's why I've always, although quoted some of the three-letter agencies and their corruption, when you get to broader programs, these are often international intelligence operations.
Now, you know, you mentioned Iran-Contra and you talked about Israel.
And one of the things that people have to understand is during Iran-Contra, it's Israel that bought the weapons.
So it wasn't the United States even buying the weapons and shipping them down.
No, Israel bought them and then shipped them down.
And then they were paid off in this plausible deniability circle after the drugs and other contraband had come up through the border.
Now, it's really interesting, again, during that time period that you mentioned kind of Epstein and what his work was.
Well, you had Holly Weirdos in the arms trade, Arnon Milken.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And not only Arnon Milken, but Sidney Pollack, who is in Eyes Wide Shut.
You know, he's kind of like the main ghoul in that.
He was a longtime Israeli arms dealer and spook, and he was an American citizen.
He was never, you know, an Israeli citizen.
It's funny, Robert De Niro, supposedly new since the 70s.
And De Niro is currently putting out propaganda films about the White House and domestic terrorism, Zero Day, just pointing that out, and is a huge adversary of the Trump administration.
Yeah, but didn't he get De Niro get snagged for children, child trafficking of some sort in France, in Europe at some point?
So, you know, he's been in and out of this world also with that.
Don't forget, Epstein also supposedly owned a modeling agency where I assure you they were not models of that you would look at.
And the other thing, too, that we have to remember here is that Epstein had passports from Austria and Saudi Arabia with his picture on them as well.
And that was tied, a lot of people thought, to the mysterious mega group, which is frankly the Wexner, Lauder, the ones that were involved in Nexium, that family.
The Bronfin family.
Bronfman.
So, I mean, a lot of this is very sketchy, but like you said, it goes all the way back to Air America, basically, Nina, Arkansas, all of that.
Well, let's say you get it back to the 80s, right?
Because I think that, again, people on the peripheral that aren't paying attention and don't know about the Clinton Global Initiative part, they're like, Bill's on the plane.
You know, we're going to get the same people that believe the lock her up mantra.
Hey, guys, let's get into the real world for a second.
Now, Clinton's certainly a part of it, a huge part of it, in the sense that, yes, he had a plan.
They had on the Zorro Ranch, they had their own little facility, the Clintons, that they visited a ton.
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Okay, so number one, that's something that wasn't discussed.
You know, you kind of got into the transhumanist aspect.
But when you talk about not only the 80s and gun running, people have to remember Prince Andrew was the gun runner.
So this is what I mean.
Prince Andrew wasn't like, oh, I want to buy this girl and that girl.
He was probably like, oh, I like this one.
And then Epstein's like, let's all go on vacation together.
And while they're doing that, they're also cutting arms deals with others that they're ensnaring in their blackmail campaign.
And some of them, they don't necessarily have to compromise on video as long as they sign on the dotted line and everything's good.
That way you get them comfortable.
And then later on, maybe they come visit the island.
They've done this a dozen times elsewhere and they get compromised.
There are many nuances to all of this.
And unfortunately, there are just so many people that like a nice hashtag, an Epstein client list, or a simple story, and they just don't get how deep this goes.
Folks, this goes into the very fabric of control in every arena possible.
We're talking banking, like you said, JP Morgan, HSBC.
We're talking geopolitics.
We're talking gun running.
Academia.
Academia, transhumanism.
The only thing that really hasn't been outed, and I assure you, at least on a micro level, was part of it, is drug running.
Again, the girls that they were currying favor with young, impressionable, obviously plied with not only alcohol, but drugs.
We're going to take a quick break.
Americans Anonymous is the book restoring power to the people, one citizen at a time.
More with Mel Kay after this.
Hey, everybody, Jason Burmes here, and it's with somewhat of a heavy heart that I come to you with the news that Making Sense of the Madness is changing and will hopefully be staying alive in some form.
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Well, after three years, I no longer have any paid gigs.
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Now, unfortunately, this is going to mean that some of the very high-caliber guests that I've gotten in the past will no longer be joining us.
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But until then, please consider the links down below if you're watching this live or over on my socials.
Thank you so much.
And we are back.
Now, Mel, kind of moving away from the Epstein files and into just the absurdity that we were getting something new.
We are supposed to get a whole bunch new from the executive order on MLK, RFK, and of course, JFK.
We've been a little radio silent, not totally radio silent, but the one huge piece of news that we did get is that 2,000 documents magically appeared that have never been seen before, that were not accessible to the Warren Commission.
And let me say this to people.
Remember, Old Trumsky and Hutch promised it to us twice during his administration.
Now, there were reviews twice during his administration.
Pompeo's Pushback00:07:48
He's now talked about the fact that Pompeo and others told him not to release it.
This would mean that he was directly lied to by Pompeo and others that his people had seen all the documents if they found 2,000 more.
Now, the other caveat to that is, are these real?
I'm not saying they're not real, but we also live in a world where Snowden revealed that we no longer just have the blackout protocol of documents in the real one.
We make fake documents and then put them out.
So in regards to that declassification process, where do you think we are?
And where does it need to go and how rapidly?
Well, what I thought was so ridiculous was I don't know her, but Ana Paulina Luna and a bunch of people said that they were on a task force.
And then next thing you know, they're giving out binders to people that have podcasts at the White House.
So the entire thing is kind of, I just keep saying, I hope the theatrics are worth it at the end of the day.
Well, all right, let's talk about theater for a second.
I don't know Anna Paulina Luna personally.
I don't know her really professionally.
I don't know her social media.
I don't know her inside of the halls of government.
This is what I know about her.
Her last name has been changed.
She's a former stripper, turned social media superstar, doesn't acknowledge the stripping.
And that launched her political career.
Now, all I'm going to say about stripping, I'm not here to judge.
Do your thing, ladies.
Very transactional business.
Very sexual business.
And apparently also in Florida.
I don't know that she got connections there, but her coming up as a social media superstar also speaks to not only this hashtag, but our obsession with beauty and celebratard culture and not so much what they have to say.
Sure, they're saying things that they like, but, you know, again, moving that also, someone's saying, hey, this person's getting millions of views on TikTok, Congresswoman.
Right.
That's a whole nother problem.
You've seen behind the veil at least a little bit at this point.
You know how transactional this is.
What are we doing?
You know, I just had Kurt Weldon on.
And it was a banger of an interview.
But at the end of the day, he said, especially about 9-11, not only does the truth come out, no congressmen, no intel officers, no oversight, non-politicians are the ones that need to form the investigative committee and have access to everything.
And that will hearken all the way back to these documents in the 60s.
What are your thoughts?
Well, that's what I don't understand about what's going on now.
And as you know, in Americans Anonymous, because I worked adjacent to reality TV in LA, what I see is a lot of orchestrated moves that are used to kind of keep people coming back.
Like reality show, you know, they cast the people that are going to fight and then they throw in bombs so that they fight because people like that, which is also part of the consumer culture and the, you know, this kind of putting a lot of weight into celebrities' opinions.
I saw this morning, Lizzo does not want us to get out of NATO.
I'm shocked and amazed.
So, you know, I mean, I think that that's failing on a large scale at this point, frankly, but it is, it does seem like this reality TV thing.
I mean, I don't know how to turn the tide here, but it is not productive.
It is a waste of time and energy.
It goes along with the whole law affair.
It's just a giant disaster, which is why.
Let's talk about this really quick because I think we do have to delve into the Trump administration kind of not only leaning into, but promoting the Celebritard culture of the day, right?
These influencers.
Now, first of all, I think the move to do the podcasting thing, totally brilliant.
You're running for office.
I saw it.
We discussed it months into it.
I said, you watch, the end game's going to be Rogan.
Sure enough, the end game was Rogan.
I mean, they launched it right before, just that little, like, you couldn't spin it quick enough for it to have an effect.
You know what I mean?
So many people just watched that raw thing.
It was a brilliant move.
I think it was also a brilliant move in the White House press corps.
First of all, she's a savage.
No doubt about it.
This woman's actually prepared.
She's not a notebook ninny like the last one.
It's not a clown show.
But them inviting other people in, I would hope that they would be brave enough to invite some real players in like Sam Husseini and Max Blumenthal, who were dragged out of a press room recently.
Now, as I understand it, they had already scheduled this meeting.
with all these influencers and it was not, Epstein was not a part of it.
Here's the problem, just like you said, somebody within the administration had this light bulb moment.
Let's make this a PR thing and we're going to pop this phase one together, which was a binder of things, again, that in large part were released between 2017 and 19.
When that last release happened a year and a half ago, I warned everybody there would be very little new.
There was very little new.
I mean, a handful of things that were new and unredacted that we are like Kahood Barack's name was finally put out there, right?
Very, very little.
And I'm sitting there on the Mario Nafal space as it's happening.
And I'm trying to explain to people what's going on and how none of this is going to be real and there's not going to be anything in it.
And there's just diehards.
Well, there's got to be something.
And then there's a ton of, I got somebody on there, Mel, drove me nuts, that acted like they're the ones that published the black book online.
I had to stop them.
And this was the real frustrating part.
Nick Bryant, the investigative journalist, got his hands on a physical copy of the black book and flight logs and was the first to publish both of them.
Period.
There's no doubt.
And none of them on the space even knew who Nick Bryant was.
Ah, there you go.
That's the problem.
That was my biggest problem with it.
If you're going to invite people and people put their lives on the line, not just you, Jason, and obviously Sean Atwood, Whitney Webb, I mean, many, Luke from We Are Change, many people, but also, you know, the people that made Out of Shadows,
like there were a lot of people that lost a lot by going out there bravely and exposing this in the beginning who, you know, you would think, and they're watching this and they're thinking, but it looked like everyone that was invited had like a million plus followers on X.
So that list of people that they invited looked like it was very much tied to X.
And that was another thing.
So if we're talking about all the theater with Elon Musk and, you know, and all of it, it does seem like it's a production.
Well, let me say this too about Musk.
I was talking to my brother and I wasn't even the one to bring him up.
And he made just a great point that, I mean, I guess subconsciously, I kind of realized, and it was just another moment where some of the mainstream was kind of attacking him for it.
So I didn't think about it.
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But he's like, are you kidding me?
They got an autistic guy with a chainsaw next to an Argentinian, essentially dictator.
Sounds great.
Argentina's not doing great.
And he's kind of like just letting the globalists do sitting up there like it's idiocracy.
He's like, I'm just waiting for, where's President Camacho?
And I'm like, you know what?
You're not wrong.
Like, think about that look.
Like, oh, he's cutting everything.
It's as pro wrestling, at least PR style, as it gets in that moment.
What did you, because again, I don't like to play into the Nazi stuff and the talking points and the left-right issues.
But when you look at that as a base level, handy guy, A chainsaw?
I mean, that's a doge on it, right?
Yeah, yeah.
You know, I mean, what I have to say is, I, I, like I said, I think that we are watching a choreographed situation.
Um, and what we have to remember, Jason, which you talk about and I do, is that the global public-private partnership that created the global public infrastructure is going full steam ahead.
Okay, they are not stopping.
They're still having their world government conference and their fourth industrial revolution conference and all of that.
While we're looking at some kind of uh bread and circuses down here and being promised things we're not getting and and all of this, all everything that's going on.
You're talking about Elon on stage and tonight's the state of the union.
Who knows what's going to happen there?
It's like every day is some kind of uh new event, but we are taking our eyes off the ball that there is a serious threat, not just to America, but the world from the technocracy and totalitarians that run the Agenda 2030, fourth industrial revolution.
And they are going full steam ahead because I just read this morning that all the money that's going to Ukraine is being tracked by Palantir.
So, how long has Palantir been in Ukraine?
And then you have a picture of Elon of Vance and Trump at one of the sporting events with a big palantir next to their heads.
And we know that, of course, he's very close.
Peter Thiel with Musk.
We have David Sachs there with the Sovereign Fund.
We have JD Vance there.
We have all these people there.
And frankly, I believe that they are part of the global public-private partnership.
And there's no way to say that they're not.
So, as you've said all along, the global public infrastructure for that track and trace surveillance that really is Agenda 2030-17 goals is completely built.
And I feel like at this point, the real question is, which who controls it at the top?
Because you got the Klaus Schwab and the aristocrats and the elitists that are basically eugenicists and the fourth right.
And then you got this whole technocrat group, you know, Ellison and all these people out there.
It's all about efficiency and technology and all of that.
But you still have to get your new ID for the plane coming up.
And, you know, and the digital, we're not having the central bank digital currency, but we're having this digital currency.
And all of this is saying to me, we're losing our liberty, we're losing our privacy, which we've already lost and nobody's pushing back.
And more important, we're walking eyes wide open into what we said we were fighting, which was the great reset.
So to me, I'm watching everything and I'm saying, hold on.
The theatrical side to me is so obvious.
But where is the pushback?
About, I don't hear anyone talking about the pushback towards a full surveillance, AI, you know, Larry Ellison wanting to have all of our health records with Palantir.
The health records is the easiest in.
That's why Obama created Obamacare.
And, you know, a lot's coming out about Obama, but just, I mean, but just enough to distract you and not to not to really point at that above our country, above all countries, are the global public-private partnership and the Larry Finks and the Powells and the Yellens, all the people that say they don't really care who nation states have leading them.
It doesn't really matter to them.
And look at what the EU is doing right now.
They've just frauded those nation states over a fraudulent net zero and all these things.
And then their crackdowns on free speech and all of that.
And we're still even discussing being in NATO and paying for NATO, or we're discussing remaining in the UN when everything that they were tasked to do, they failed at.
I just saw like Gutierrez out there being like, you know, all this money being cut from USAID and the international foundations is people are going to starve.
You're going to get, there's going to be more war.
There's going to be more corruption.
I'm like, that's exactly what the UN and the tentacles do.
So, you need the money to keep that going.
And the American people, I don't think, fully understand that a lot of this money from, and I'm talking hundreds of billions of dollars through the Green New Deal and the Infrastructure Act and all of that went to solidify Agenda 2030.
I mean, so where are we as Americans when we are apparently the only country that has a constitution and bill of rights that could possibly push back?
And it would have to be on the local level.
You even have Norm Eisen, the head of lawfare, out there talking about municipalities need to be infiltrated for 2026.
That is the American people not cleaning up in their backyard.
We need doges in every community and looking at the money, looking at the surveillance, looking at the sustainable development BS and pulling out the roots where they are.
Because to me, I look at DC and I look at the Epstein and I look at and I think, like, what do we think we're going to fix?
I just, I really think the only power is to realize that this is really in your backyard and you better start fixing your life and your circumstances.
Because if we can do that in enough states and enough counties, you know, maybe we can push back.
But for now, the vassal state known as the District of Columbia is just, I think, rotten to the core.
And they're just prolonging the obvious, which is get your digital ID and track and trace surveillance and just be okay with it.
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And I'm not okay with it.
But I think a lot of the bread and circuses is so people don't realize that the great reset, the fourth industrial revolution, is moving full steam ahead without any pushback.
They'll know how.
Well, I do want to talk about the technology aspect, the announcement of a quote-unquote crypto reserve, the Stargate project, artificial intelligence, Sam Altman, and of course, the Muskerdew himself.
But I also want to talk about the UN, NATO, Palantir feel, and beyond.
More Making Sense of the Madness after this.
Hey, everybody, Jason Burmes here, and it's with somewhat of a heavy heart that I come to you with the news that Making Sense of the Madness is changing and will hopefully be staying alive in some form.
If you followed my work, you know that I've always said I am extremely lucky whenever I have a paid gig.
Well, after three years, I no longer have any paid gigs.
So, when you look at Making Sense of the Madness, the format is going to change where you're going to be able to watch a more commentary-driven show live on my socials: YouTube, Rumble, Rockfin, and X first and live, and then it will be carried by Patriot.tv.
Now, unfortunately, this is going to mean that some of the very high-caliber guests that I've gotten in the past will no longer be joining us.
And once again, the format is changing.
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Now, let me say this: one of the best pieces of video I actually watched in a long time was Trump finally dressing down Zelensky.
And I was actually so happy when he jumped in when he did, because it was this old trope about it's going to come to our shores.
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Right.
And I've been hearing that old trope since the war on terror.
And that's all it is: a trope.
And that would have angered me greatly too.
And when I watched his demeanor, and that's why I don't think that's WWE wrestling, his face got red.
He's like, no, that's enough.
You know, and good.
That was the right thing to do.
At the same time, now they are talking about leaving the UN and NATO for real.
Thank God.
We need to do that 100%.
I've been calling for that for 20 plus years.
And you've got some real dumb people out there that think that that's a bad thing.
Jen Stoltenberg, who is the former leader of NATO, just left.
He just got his permanent seat at Bilderberg.
He'd been going for years as a steering member.
So that means this coming May, probably a couple months from now, maybe a little more, he's going to sit next to Peter Thiel, the head of Palantir, which is total track trace database surveillance, not only of this country, but all Five Eyes nations, I assure you, Australia, the UK, probably all of the EU, just to let everybody know whether or not they're in Five Eyes or not, Israel, et cetera, Canada.
It's a real thing.
And again, because it's being done through the color of law and national security, these people don't see any problem with it, right?
No, it's a huge issue, especially when you've got AI now conducting warfare.
And as much as I loved what Trump did with Zelensky, he just gave Israel a blank check.
Now, we all knew he was going to do this.
He was saying when he was coming in that essentially he was going to do whatever Netanyahu wanted, right?
And I was, you were on panels with me where I said, look, Israel is going to do what they want.
The problem with that is that nation carpet bombed all of Gaza.
It is in complete rubble.
And now they're going to get it.
And not only are they going to get it, they're going to get more land because Syria just got overthrown.
And I guarantee you, they're getting a peace there.
And Lebanon's a problem as well.
I was just going to say, when you finally give something to someone that they've wanted for a very long time, you don't discourage them by doing so.
And the Greater Israel Project is a very real one.
And that includes parts of Lebanon, Egypt, and possibly Iran.
So instead of Trump creating peace, which I think he thinks that's what he's doing, right?
Y'all, we're going to uproot the problem there.
It's going to be over.
Far from it, I guarantee it.
That's where the true powder keg could kick off with a military operation where there are boots on the ground with Trump's full approval.
And not enough people are speaking.
I feel like, unfortunately, the only people that are critical of that are the Israel runs everything crowd, right?
And that unfortunately intersects with the bigots of the world.
Like it or love it, folks, it's the truth.
That discredits people like myself that are like, no, this is way dangerous, way dangerous.
And again, there are so many people in the administration that are outwardly pro-Israel, including RFK Jr., Heg Seth, go down the line, that that's the real danger.
What's your 40,000-foot view on only the Middle Eastern policy, but the UN, NATO, Ukraine, Russia?
Well, first of all, I think we have to absolutely get out of NATO.
It has not been a defensive force.
And we also promised Gorbachev, Reagan, and Baker did that we would not expand NATO.
NATO is, to me, the global public-private partnership's private basic military.
And the United States is paying for it.
And our contractors that are also sold on Wall Street, I mean, our military-industrial complex contractors have everything invested in endless wars.
That's how they make money.
And that's how they do it after.
Second, the United Nations has completely failed at its mandate.
It is a bunch of elitists and aristocrats that put their friends in there, again, to benefit the World Economic Forum.
You know, global public-private partnership.
I frankly think that a parent company is running the United States and that we the people are being totally deceived that our country is actually already captured and has been since, in my opinion, 1912, 1913.
And there's a lot of work that needs to be done on that front.
I think we should bring home everyone from the 800 bases we have all over.
I think every single embassy needs to be looked into.
Every CIA agent and every embassy has to be brought back to America.
And we need to, I think, fully fix our country and our borders and our plans and all of that in a better way and then find a new way forward to cooperate with nation states around the world rather than through this conglomerate that really is about the Bank of International Settlements, the World Bank and the IMF.
All the money that we put goes into their hands and we're not allowed to audit them.
The Bank of International Settlements has immunity, like the Vatican and whatever's going on there.
So we have all those problems.
As for Israel, what I believe and I've always believed, and maybe I'm right, maybe I'm wrong, I don't know.
But about a year or six months before October 7th and what happened in Israel, I noticed that Abbas had met with President G multiple times and so did Netanyahu.
And from my estimation, when I looked on a map, I said, you know what?
There's going to be something's going to happen in Gaza because of the port there and because of the waterway.
And if you look at the Belt and Road Initiative on top of the map of the world, you're going to see that that piece of land, that piece of the Mediterranean was very valuable.
Plus they found apparently, or they say they found oil out there, but I think it's more about the shipping route right there and to have multiple shipping routes.
Whatever the case may be, I do think that the project in Israel is a part of the Global Public-Private Partnership's plans.
I think it's part of the agenda, Agenda 2030 and the full track and trace surveillance and all of that.
They had been testing that out, not just in Ukraine, but also in Gaza, people should know.
Another thing that's very sad about Gaza that a lot of people don't want to say is that from birth, if you are born in Gaza, you are pretty much born to be a soldier and a super soldier.
And you are born with an ideology.
And I don't think that that's an accident.
I think that's by design.
And as Hannah Rent and many people that were against Israel being a theocracy said, well, what you're doing is you are creating a forever war opportunity in the middle of the Middle East.
So for me right now, I don't know what's going to happen there, but it's a terrible tragedy.
But again, I don't think, I think the Ukraine war, I think what's going on in Israel, I think what's going on in Africa, in Europe, I think it is all being orchestrated by the global public-private partnership of the international organizations, the international UN tentacles, and frankly, the Central Bank of Central Banks, the Bank of International Settlements.
And I feel like they're paying for everything on both sides.
And the hard part of the haters that want to blame one country or another is I believe that this group has no allegiance or alliance with any country, with any flag, with any religion, with any anything.
They have been born and bred to believe that they are the super class, which comes out of, of course, the Council of Foreign Relations.
You see them going nuts the last few days with their foreign affairs magazine as if it's a magazine.
Also, Chantham House, the Trilateral Commission.
All these people are losing their minds over the idea that we might be pulling out of the alliance of NATO and of protecting Europe and of funding Europe and all of that.
So I believe that most of this, everything that's going on, they don't care how many people die.
They don't care.
We're not real to these people.
I think that it's just a matter of their financial system on the global level is failing.
They needed the great reset.
And what they did is we got a counter-great reset.
So again, the power's not going back to the people.
It just looks like it's shifted to other people.
And, you know, to me, I just think that we are all being played on a global scale.
And like they said in Tragedy and Hope, there's maybe 6,000 people in the world that are actually benefiting from the murder and death and pandemic and climate nonsense and what they're doing all over in Africa and South America with IMF and World Bank.
I just really feel like if we don't go to the head of the snake, then we're just fooling ourselves.
I don't know if you saw they want to put out all these documents that they've been hiding from.
Grassley put in a letter about it looks like Operation Paperclip.
I don't know if you saw that in the last few days.
And I'm thinking, well, if we're dismantling the whole thing, well, that would be necessary.
But at the same time, let me just reiterate that.
When we talk about Operation Paperclip, we are talking about absorbing Nazi intelligence and Nazi scientists into our military industrial complex that gets modernized through NASA, through the Central Intelligence Agency, et cetera.
And in 2013, when Annie Jacobson released her book of the same title, she revealed there were still half a billion, not half a million, not 500,000, 500 million documents regarding that program.
I think that that needs to sink into people.
And really, look, I'm not saying it's the real deal.
I'm certainly saying it's more than a possibility.
It probably is a probability.
They lied to us about Hitler, everybody.
Post-World War II, everything has been a deception on a grand scale.
And frankly, in America, since the murder of JFK, nobody within our government has been held accountable for anything.
We got to take one more break.
I want to talk about that accountability.
And I want to talk about it in the form of not only currency, but is there gold in them there, Hills?
We talked about Musk.
It's time to talk about Fort Knox.
It sounds like a great idea.
Let's live stream the bad boy.
But again, is this more idiocracy bread and circus?
Final segment of Making Sense of the Madness after this.
Hey, everybody, Jason Burmes here.
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So again, here it is.
Yes, I want Ron Paul to audit the Federal Reserve, and I want them to go into Fort Knox and live stream it.
For people to really grasp the Fort Knox situation, there has not been a physical audit with the media presence since the 70s.
And in that, the media did not get to follow them around.
They had to take the word of the government officials, I believe it was congressmen and senators that went in and looked at the gold.
Now, again, sounds awesome on its surface, but why does Elon Musk have anything to do with it?
I understand Trump.
If you wanted to take the Treasury Secretary with him there, okay, I get that too.
The other thing is, I'm not, I mean, he's already hinting at there might not be gold there.
I'm not saying we're going to get that shock moment, but we're dirty.
We're dog dirty.
For those that don't know, many, many years ago, I believe this was during the 90s, we cut a deal with China in gold bars.
And China received these gold bars, but upon further inspection, they realized that most of it was actually tungsten dipped in gold.
Now, I'm not saying that they would do something like that to trick the American people, but I'm also not putting it past them that what does an audit like this look like?
What is it in reality?
I mean, is Trump going to go in there and start like scratching it off with like a diamond?
I'm going to be like, it's going to see Geraldo with the Al Capone vault.
Nothing's exactly.
Is it going to be that?
I mean, that's what some people are expecting, but it would be ironic because it would be the thing they were expecting.
Like most people were expecting the vault of Al Capone to have all sorts of goodies and cash and all this other.
It was just empty.
They're putting out the projection it may be empty.
What are your thoughts on this whole deal?
And the idea now is instead of a gold reserve, we're going to have a crypto reserve.
And one of the crypto coins that was talked about was XRP, which got past its little legal troubles, started to explode again, and has been put out there already by the World Economic Forum many years ago as a possible CBDC.
Right.
Go ahead.
Right.
So was Ethereum.
But listen, as for the gold, I do know that gold has been being shipped from the city of London to New York.
But apparently that has slowed down, which doesn't surprise me.
But for the last four years, China, Russia, India, even small countries have been storing and stocking up gold as they've discussed the BRICS nations and the gold-backed BRICS currency, which then Trump comes in and says you're not going to be allowed to have the BRICS currency.
Yet we still see people out there talking about turning our country back into a gold-backed currency, maybe even a crypto based on gold.
I don't know, but whatever the case may be, gold has to be revalued.
Like whatever.
They've never revalued it.
And what we do know is that many people, including Chase and other banks, have gone to jail over the years for manipulating the gold and silver markets.
So again, this is so extreme.
And then the other thing is they've been selling gold stock certificates on Wall Street for years and years.
But some people think that those certificates are sold multiple times, one after another.
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So whatever's going on with gold, there's so much that would have to be done.
It's not like, wow, there's our gold, like we're leprechauns, and all of a sudden we can go do it.
It is not valued right.
It needs to be checked.
You are absolutely right that gold was sent overseas that was dipped in gold and we got caught.
And then also, I have to tell you, I don't know what's going on over at the Vatican, but something very bizarre is going on there.
And I was told a long time ago that they were all involved in the gold, you know, shipping gold around the world.
And why were we sending our gold to the city of London anyway?
So it's just all very incestuous when it comes to talking about gold.
And I think we've been deceived the whole time.
The one thing I know for sure is that Henry Kissinger encouraged Nixon to go off the gold standard at the same time that he sent Klaus Schwab, Henry Kissinger, to start the EU through the World Economic Forum.
And then all of this, again, goes back to the Bank of International Settlements, which has never been looked at and I believe pays for both sides of every war.
So at the end of the day, I do believe that no matter what happens, it's the people of our nations that are being put through a circus.
And the answers are out there, but they're going to make them as theatrical as possible.
And that's what scares me, even of Elon Musk and everything going on.
What scares me the most is that we have serious infringement upon our privacy, our future, our self-determination, our nation, our land, our property.
It's all coming as fast as it can to get us on the digital public infrastructure.
And yet nobody's talking about that at all.
Not in the mainstream, but not in the government either.
So to me, it's like, wait a minute.
So we gave all this money through the Inflation Reduction Act to ledger technology.
You know, the IRS bill with 87,000 agents, that wasn't the scary part.
The AI part was the scary part.
So all these things are not being talked about.
And by the way, Mel, the chief AI officer program is still going strong under Strump, under Trump.
There's not.
With Schmidt still involved?
Well, he's still on the National Security Council.
They didn't strip him as far as I know.
I didn't hear anything.
And why would they?
Why is there a story with that?
Why do people have, why is he stripping the 51 agents of their security clearance?
Some of them haven't been in the government for 20 years.
Well, because they still get access and they still have networks.
That's ridiculous.
Well, it is ridiculous.
I'm glad that he did it.
But again, with somebody like Schmidt, who still has great ties to Alphabet, Google, YouTube, the National Security Council.
In fact, you know, one of the videos I did in recent weeks was showing him at these national security events.
Folks, his best friend was Henry Kissinger.
I know.
And he wrote a book about AI taking over.
Nobody, hello.
And Jason, you've done great work on that.
That he was in Google China when they built the track and trace surveillance system, the global infrastructure in China.
He was part of that.
The Google employees felt like they were doing something wrong by creating it with him.
And I firmly believe when I talk about the global public-private partnership, I think that they built that in China for us.
And that is what that China is the test ground for the global public infrastructure that you've laid out on your show is already built.
All it needs is America.
If America is sucked into it, then that's then the technocracy Agenda 2030 works.
And listen, we have to be most careful where the road to hell is paved with great intentions, right?
We're in a world now that we're utilizing AI to quote unquote target terrorists.
Trump just labeled the cartels as terrorists, expanding that.
Not sure what that means, but I do know that my government has been involved in high-level cartel drug running for a long time.
So there's a lot of blind spots.
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There's a lot of good things going on.
You've got to be able to be balanced and not play team baseball.
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