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We got Dr. Mark Sherwood as the Kennedy confirmation hearings are happening.
We're filming this.
I was watching it just before.
I've got a lot to say in that arena.
I'm sure he does as well.
And then we're going to talk cannabis studies.
You know, a lot of people say it's harmless.
I myself am an avid user.
I read these things and I wonder.
I mean, I look at a guy like Joe Rogan doing pretty good for himself.
We're also going to talk to Zach Payne about so much new AI data centers and beyond.
You're not going to want to miss it.
Buckle up and get ready to make sense of the madness.
And we are back.
We are now joined by Dr. Mark Sherwood.
So let's just get the first week of Trump's administration out of the way.
I'm impressed, right?
Like at the same time, not perfect.
I'm sure we could have done a whole segment on Stargate and Larry Ellison, et cetera, an extension of Cancer Moonshot.
There are concerns there.
But on top of the pardons, on top of Ross Ulbricht getting out of jail, on top of leaving the WHO, on top of starting the immigration, I mean, I could go on and on and on, freezing funding, taking away national security clearances for monsters.
I mean, this does seem like a turning point.
And a huge part of that turning point, I think, includes RFK Jr., right?
And I was just watching these hearings and you knew what they were going to go after.
I hadn't seen any of the trashy personal life stuff yet, but we certainly had the, you know, conspiracy theory thing thrown out a million times, dangerous.
We had he's suing for money for Elizabeth Warren.
He's certainly towing the line on saying that he is pro-vaccine while they are trying to get him to say anything but.
But the truth of the matter is, if this guy gets in and his first month is anything like this first week, we are in for huge, huge changes.
So I want to get your 50,000 foot view.
You've seen this same week plus now.
You know these hearings are going to be about as tough as it gets.
This is probably the person with the most pushback.
So what are your thoughts?
Well, I like you, Jason, think the first week has been the fulfillment of a lot of promises.
Is it going to be perfect in anyone's eyes?
No.
But is it better than what we had by a long shot?
Yes.
So I think we're all happy with that direction.
And it is America.
He's our president, and we're going to back him.
And this is the direction we're going in.
And I think personally, as you do, it's a much better direction.
So I'm happy to see some of the bureaucracy cleaned out and the mess cleaned out.
And I think it's going a good direction so far.
Is it everything I want?
No.
And I've got concerns here and there.
But when it comes to RFK and this position of HSS, I'm very happy with his direction.
I realize that he's being grilled, but let's face it, the whole Senate confirmation hearings right now is nothing more than a circus.
I've watched this occur over the last week or so.
And the amount of pettiness, the amount of insults, the amount of juvenile behaviors exhibited by so-called senators is disgusting to me.
People that are in a public eye, as I and you are, you're going to have skeletons and they can't be in your closet because your closet's going to be open.
Everybody's got them.
It's okay.
Own them, move on.
It's like a marriage, man.
Unpack your bags and anything in your suitcase.
Your spouse is going to get a chance to sort through those, man.
And so that's fine.
But I do think the conversation of having more accountability, more transparency in vaccines and ingredients in our foods is overall going to be outstanding for the health consumer, outstanding for the consumer to be able to choose what they do.
You can't take away McDonald's, but you can give them another opportunity to eat a salad.
You know, and one of the things that's already come up has been the fluoride in the water, has been the red dye in the foods.
And if we can see a massive overhaul in the ingredients that are allowed in just the normal things, and then start focusing on kind of repatriating the nutrients in our produce and our livestock, hopefully by different methods of farming in many ways.
And look, a lot of farmers back Trump as well.
They see these problems.
How likely is that shift?
And what do you think the very first target is going to be?
Because obviously there's a lot of hype around pharma.
I like the talk about getting these damn ads off the television.
But at the same time, I think that we have to extend that.
The television was all well and good when we were talking about the 80s and 90s.
They can't be running on YouTube ads either.
Sorry.
Sorry.
We can discuss whether or not and where they can advertise.
But again, this is life and death stuff and should be reserved to you and your physician and not being influenced by a bunch of dancing people having the best time of their life.
And then as soon as it tees off into the real part of the commercial, they go, may cause suicidal thoughts and actions.
Like very slight and a slew of other things.
So, so what do you think are going to be the first targets and where will it go?
Well, I'd like you to think that the target to limit, if not completely restrict big pharmaceutical to people is a great step.
But I'll go back one step further.
Who makes the policies to make this stuff happen and further who made the policies to make this stuff even possible?
Well, it's because of lobbying.
And you need to eliminate or severely limit the amount of lobbyists from big pharma money that goes to these politicians' pockets because that system right there is set up for corruption.
It's set up for biased influence and that has to be eliminated.
I think that's target number one.
Maybe a 1A would be in the idea of vaccines, ingredients, and even food ingredients.
You're going to have a hard time with the complete elimination of all things, but you may get some things, such as fluoride in some bodies of water, because you're going to have some resistance from some state and local facilities.
We know that's going to happen.
That's gamesmanship that it is.
And you're also going to have people resist even red dyes.
I know it sounds ridiculous, but you're going to have people do that because you're going to have some attorneys out here to say, well, this little bit's been shown to not hurt anybody.
That's just a sleight of hand.
It's a bait and a switch.
That's all that is.
These ingredients are harmful for mankind.
They enhance the toxic load and toxic burden in mankind.
And we are getting more obese as we get into our lives here in America.
And the obesity is a key to the storage of toxins in that fat tissue.
So these conversations with the information and discussion even we're having today, I think that's a direct benefit from the person of RFK sitting in that chair today getting grilled.
Well, again, I'm really hoping that his confirmation goes through.
I hope, again, that we can see the type of things that many of us, you know, Operation Warp Speed, obviously, has also come up in these hearings.
And for a lot of us, including myself, I feel like RFK Jr. is that meaculpa for Operation Warp Speed.
And look, he tried his best to kind of glance over and say, you know, well, this was supposed to include, you know, other types of treatments and all that other stuff.
And that's great.
I get it.
But as soon as he was able to receive, for instance, the Regeneron, right?
And all of a sudden it just wasn't available for anybody else.
We couldn't warp speed that.
Donnie T, you should have wised up then.
That's all I'm saying.
That's all I'm saying.
But again, we're here.
There is no time machine to go into the past.
Let's get to the next article here.
Cannabis warning is major study finds two-thirds of drug users suffer reduced brain activity.
Now, I read through this bad boy, and they've got the heavy user, the moderate user, the non-user.
And when they're talking about two-thirds, they are talking about the quote-unquote heavy user, right?
And I think that that was like over a thousand times in their lifetime or something like that.
That was the number.
And look, this will be coming up.
I'll be 46 this summer.
You know, that's like, geez, that's 30 years on the sauce, everybody.
30 years on the sauce.
I like to think I have pretty good recall.
Not saying it couldn't be better.
At the same time, at the very end of the article, the last thing, you know, I kind of just quipped about big pharma and suicide.
But they marked suicide as one of these long-term effects.
Everybody out there, I just want to let everybody a pretty happy guy, not suicidal at all.
Okay.
Thank you for clarifying that for all of us.
Yes, just for everybody on everything I've done, even when the going gets tough, the tough get going.
I'm fine.
I'm going to make it.
When you look at these type of studies, what are your thoughts?
And I always wonder, okay, you did this.
What other types of drugs are they taking?
And I'm not just talking about illegal drugs.
I am talking about those big pharma drugs that are probably not incorporated into the study, especially when you're looking at those long-term effects at the end.
But I'd love to get your take on what you think cannabis, memory, brain function long-term really does.
Well, when you look at an article like this, this is give people kind of a 411 on how to read them.
Every article has a point of bias, and you have to sift through it.
So in this one, a couple of points that you have to think through is what defines a heavy user, and is it done by questionnaire?
Did the persons give you the truth on the questionnaire?
You also have to look at the age of the person.
You have to look at the genetics of the person, which is never talked about in these articles.
This is more personal.
There's something called the endocannabinoid receptors that are coded genetically.
So what that means is some receptors are more sensitive to the effects of one THC than other people, right?
So then you have to think about the health status of the persons and other drug usages or other sort of illegal drug usages as well.
So that all factors in there.
So I look at a study like this and I find it interesting, but I don't find it something that I can make a decision on.
I think the other side of the coin is if it's two-thirds that did have neurological decline, one-third didn't.
I think that's a point to point out as well.
You probably in one of those one-third thinks, I think, knowing you personally.
So congratulations.
I mean, all I'm saying about it is, again, when we are talking about that one-third, we also know that about two-thirds or maybe even three-quarters of Americans my age are taking a slew of medications, and I'm not on the Johnny nonsense.
Little cardiomiracle here or there, little NAD plus, some vitamin C D.
I mean, we've taught the B complexes, turmeric.
Again, I'm not going down that road.
I think that road is actually a very dangerous and complex one.
And I didn't see that factored in.
I thought that that was one of the big biases.
I think that if you're actually going to do that study, you have to look at the other kind of drugs.
And like you said, if it was done by questionnaire, et cetera, et cetera.
I would be more convinced if you gave me just straight and narrow, no, we just do cannabis and there's not a history of alcoholism as well.
I mean, that's a whole nother factor that you don't even get in there.
You know, there was a whole nother article I almost sent you on all these different addictive substances down the line, but I didn't see sugar on it.
So I thought that we would forgo it.
Sherwood.tv is where you can find Dr. Mark Sherwood.
What would you like to leave the audience with?
Lack Of Health Information00:03:32
And again, Mark, I know that you're hopeful.
If you had your way, what would be the first thing to change and how would you go about it?
I want to change the information that's given out there to people across the board.
You know, I'm not one to eliminate free speech.
I'm one to enhance free speech.
And people like yourself and like me that have been broadcasting this message of health for a long, long time.
They need to be given the opportunity as well and quit being censored.
So if you're getting the opportunity today, folks, to watch a broadcast like this, my encouragement for you is to share, share, and share because you care, care, and care.
And I really mean that because our health is our future.
Our lack of health is our demise.
Our lack of health is killing this nation one step at a time.
And this is a point of contention that I've had for a long, long time.
And I'm grateful that we have to have this.
We're getting an opportunity to have this conversation.
I want to see it turned around, man.
You know, I am old enough to know when it was rare that somebody had autism or somebody had a peanut allergy.
You know, I remember that uptick really, really in my 20s when my brother started working with adult disabled people.
And it wasn't the Down syndrome people that, again, like I was more used to in the 80s when we were talking about these things.
You know, it was very rare to see the types of just dismantling of humanity that we've seen over the last 20 to 30 years.
So I'm hopeful.
Let's maha.
Dr. Mark Sherwood, Sherwood.tv, thank you so much.
We're going to take a break.
We're going to come back.
We're going to hit it up with Zach Payne.
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And we are now joined by Zach Payne.
Zach, we got a lot to talk about, my friend.
And I know that you're a heavy mag guy.
And look, it's been really on so many levels a gravy train with biscuit wheels.
Even as we record this, the Kennedy hearings are going on.
Yesterday was that first press conference where guys like you and I can now apply to go and be a part of the DC Press Corps, that opening up.
The look on little Leslie Stahl, aka Caitlin Clark, as she tried to derail this younger, more attractive woman who simply smacked her down at every level.
I mean, I guess we're going to start there because there have been so many good things that I don't want everybody to think that this, I'm going to be taking a big dump here.
I think that in the technology aspect, clearly there were those that foresaw that there was just no stopping this Trump train and somewhere along the way hopped on board again.
You know, Peter Thiel is probably the big influence not enough people talk about.
Trump's technology supervisor, very heavily influential, not only in Silicon Valley, but the military industrial complex.
And JD Vance was a big part of that.
And one by one, after those moves, it was really in that direction that all of a sudden the Zucans came out and started to Zuckerbero everywhere for Trump.
You even got Bezos at the table.
Sam Altman sliding in there at the very last minute.
So I think those are the concerns we're going to address.
But before we get there, do another victory lap.
Let's talk about it.
What are some of the things that have made you the happiest in this first week plus?
So many things, Jason.
I mean, it's difficult to pinpoint it down to one thing because he signed hundreds of executive orders.
Just today, he offered buyouts to millions of federal employees.
Yesterday, he cut off funding to foreign aid projects around the world.
Prior to that, he shut down the pipeline of money that was going to places like Catholic charities.
I mean, you really have a difficult time doing anything other than the YMCA dance that I just did.
I mean, I feel like this is 100% full speed ahead.
Like, we just, politically speaking, in terms of the direction of the country, previously we were riding a burrow through the desert of Arizona.
Now, we just jumped into Starship One and blasted through a wormhole.
And we are coming out on the other side, truly in the midst of this new golden age here in America.
And I understand nobody's going to be happy about everything.
But I mean, good Lord.
I mean, I expected it to be hot and heavy.
And I think that's what was necessary if we were going to kneecap the deep state and start this off exactly where we need to.
With the CIA and the State Department, the first two confirmed cabinet members, I think that was exactly the direction that we needed to take because the CIA and the State Department are sister agencies in the deep state, not only here in America, but around the world.
And the power that they possess, the amount of influence that they've been able to gather throughout the decades, you know, ever since the CIA was created and ever since the State Department has been setting up diplomatic missions, putting case officers into those diplomatic missions around the world, and then also funding projects through agencies like USAID.
We have been a malign and malignant force around the world.
The CIA has been, not the United States of America, but these agencies acting as the deep state have completely destroyed the world in so many different ways.
I mean, overthrowing democratically elected leaders in other nations, assassinating democratically elected leaders here in the United States of America.
If we don't get these agencies under control, then there's no way that we can stop the deep state.
And if we don't clear out the federal government, there's no way we can stop the deep state.
If we don't turn off the money spigot, there's no way we can stop the deep state.
And so far, we've done all of them.
I mean, a lot of great things in the realm of taking away national security clearances, of, like you said, stopping these NGOs that are being funded by the government almost immediately, and you're seeing people cry.
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I'm not sure what exactly is going on with Medicaid.
Getting back to the Medicaid issue, I got to admit, I don't really know exactly what's going on there, but I know it's a heavily abused program that I really don't love in the first place.
And one of the things that was being discussed today in the RFK Jr. hearings, for instance, was the fact that, you know, look at the results.
If it's doing so great, why are the results so poor?
So, like you said, look, a lot of great things have been going on.
At the same time, with all this technology and especially AI already at the forefront, right?
It's kind of funny because we heard it on the peripheral, but it seems like almost immediately with the Trump administration, it is now in the apex.
And what I mean is what happened with DeepSeek, really, what, 48, 72 hours ago as we record this.
An AI model developed for much less and at the same time runs on much less power and costs much less.
Now, here's the thing with this model: number one, people have to understand it's not an all-around model in the sense that this is just another GPT-like bot.
So it's a conversation bot.
And, you know, it'll answer questions typed in, it'll converse with you, et cetera.
The metaversion of that right now is Lama.
And aside from that, as far as I know, I think there is image generation that's there, but I don't think it has Sora-like capabilities yet, right?
And that's where you're really going to need the power and the data centers.
But the thing is that as we speak, Alibaba has already released another AI model that's saying it's surpassing DeepSeek.
And DeepSeek is open source.
Now, as this happens, you know, massive amounts of energy are being prepared for these centers.
Chevron is talking about powering AI data centers with natural, U.S. natural gas.
But the truth is they're moving into building fourth generation nuclear facilities.
And U.S. stock prices really did plummet, including NVIDIA on the heels of that.
Now, we're going to get into the data centers themselves and the metadata center in particular.
But I would say this about NVIDIA.
I think their valuation should not have plummeted as much because no matter what.
These things, especially the commercial versions, I mean, we're doing this broadcast with the help of NVIDIA graphics, really doing the brute force work, especially when I'm streaming to four different platforms at 1080p.
You know, don't get me wrong, my gigabit connection is distributing that, but how are we processing it, right?
I mean, we're in real time right now.
I'm in the Midwest.
You're in sunny Florida, although it's gorgeous out today.
Let me tell you right now, Zach, Midwest underrated.
I think what we're going to see, you know, in this realm is certain levels of this will be inescapably maneuvered through open source.
In other words, as long as we have the hardware to drive this stuff, a lot of these surprises are about to come along.
And that is going to mess up the models of some of these people because once you release this stuff into the commercial arena, it's unpredictable.
I mean, I'm a tinkerer myself.
I see what people, I mean, there are people out there right now, you know, retrofitting old game systems like Nintendos and Ataris with HDMI ports.
Damn, we'll just do a little bit of dick and dick-and-do.
And that's a minimalist thing.
However, when we're talking about hardware in general, in other words, the quantum computing arena, quantum chips, other types of physics that may not be in the public arena, I think that's where the AI advantage really is.
But at the same time, you can't really admit to that because then it comes into the consumer arena.
It's quite the paradox.
What do you see happening in the near future with AI?
Because hey, this AI model, also DeepSeek, won't tell you about Tiananmen Square, isn't going to take a large dump on Xi Ji Ping.
And really, the other thing that to me that this is expounding that we've discussed before is garbage in, garbage out, right?
It's what is programming these things.
Go ahead.
So first of all, I don't necessarily take DeepSeek at face value.
I think it's really interesting that they released it and announced it right after the announcement of this $500 billion data center Oracle Open AI deal that President Trump just had that press conference about.
First of all, this is a product of the People's Republic of China.
That means that even if a portion of it is open source, we don't necessarily know exactly what it's running on or how they trained it.
The way that they described it certainly makes it seem like they've outdone OpenAI or they've outdone meta.
But how do we really know that what they're telling us is the truth?
The fact that it came out at the time that it did, it definitely undercut that announcement that President Trump and Altman and Larry Ellison made.
But it's also coming out at a time like literally a day before NVIDIA is set to release brand new 5,000 series graphics cards.
And today was the end of the embargo.
So what?
It came out 24 hours before the end of the embargo.
It turns out that the numbers on these new 5,000 series cards are not nearly as good as NVIDIA was telling people they were.
So I think that their stock price was likely to dip just a little bit anyways.
But with this announcement from DeepSeek, they essentially have told the world, hey, we did it without these incredible NVIDIA AI chips.
And so this is something that pretty much anybody can do.
But it turns out that they actually did have a stockpile of those NVIDIA chips.
Yeah, there's an embargo now.
So they can't get the newest ones.
So we really don't know what's going on with DeepSeek.
Personally, I think that it's beneficial to humanity to have a multitude of AI models that you can tinker around with.
I've got links open up in tabs on my computer so that I can go to multiples of these things and I can try them out and see what sorts of results I get from them.
What are the spoken and conversational results I'm going to get?
What are the AI image generation results that I'm going to get?
I like to play around.
I frequently will use the image generation for my thumbnails.
If I want to see something like Joe Biden chasing a group of children with fangs or something like that, I'm not going to get that from every place, but I will get it from some place.
So you can ask DeepSeek questions that perhaps OpenAI is not going to respond with on ChatGPT.
You can definitely ask ChatGPT questions about Tiananmen Square and Xi Jinping that DeepSeek is not going to give you.
Lama's awesome because you can run it locally.
I guess you can run DeepSeek locally as well.
Haven't had time to tinker with that, but I've heard that people are installing it on Raspberry Pis.
I mean, that's pretty incredible right there.
At the end of the day, AI is inevitable.
In the announcement that Trump made with Ellison and Altman, I think that that was a good move in terms of national security.
Personally, I would rather have the United States of America under a Trump administration and hopefully going forward, future America-first administrations be the ones that are in control of the development and the dissemination of artificial intelligence so that we can kind of control the way that it's going.
We don't want this to get into the hands of the People's Republic of China so that they're the ones who control the direction that AI is going.
I mean, I think that it's inevitable that it's going to be put into their social credit score system and their sort of mass surveillance grid system.
Sounds like Ellison wants to do that kind of thing here, but there's no way.
That's not what I want to happen with AI.
I also am not interested in boutique mRNA cancer vaccinations.
I mean, what a lot of people don't realize is that to create something like that, it's a very expensive process.
Even if they could do it for everyone on the face of the planet, on a case-by-case basis, that is going to be so expensive.
Your average Jane and John Johnson are not going to be able to afford a boutique cancer vaccine.
So they're not about to come out into the general public and say everyone has to get this boutique cancer vaccine.
I mean, this is going to be the kind of thing that perhaps the very rich and powerful are going to do for themselves.
But there are also plenty of them who understand the dangers inherent in mRNA technology.
Does that mean it's always going to be dangerous?
No, not necessarily.
I think that the only way we're ever going to find that out is through research and development.
And through research and development, perhaps we'll come across something that has not been thought of before that will be of benefit to humanity.
I think that quite often President Trump will present something and he'll present it in a certain way so that it just gets out there.
And then at the end of the day, it turns out it was going in another direction entirely.
I mean, think about President Trump's first term in office when the mainstream media was decrying him, saying that he was not a strong leader.
Syria was bucking up and they were acting like they were going to take out the Middle East or whatever.
They were gassing their own citizens, total garbage.
And they had nothing but bad things to say.
And then he sends missiles into Syria and suddenly he's FDR.
Okay.
And they just like fell to their knees and said Trump is the leader we always knew he could be.
And a lot of people in the independent media sphere and in conservative circles said Trump is a warmonger.
Look at this.
He's taking us into World War III.
But then 24 hours later, you find out that it was an empty airbase that actually was a nuclear enrichment site for Iran and nobody died.
Okay.
Wow, that's awesome.
Okay.
I mean, if we're going to keep America and the rest of the world safe and we're not going to have to kill a lot of people, I think that's a great way to do it.
I mean, peace through strength has always been the sort of tone and tenor of President Trump's philosophy on national security.
And I think that by controlling artificial intelligence here at home and creating jobs and creating opportunities for other businesses, I think that's the only way we can go.
We got to take a break.
There's a lot I want to retort to.
In that arena, we're going to talk AI data centers.
We're going to talk super intelligence and the future of AI, Stargate, so much more.
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All right, Zach, let's talk about a few things.
Now, first of all, as far as DeepSeek being the best AI out there, and who knows about this Alibaba release, et cetera.
Mike Adams, the health ranger, who I respect a lot, has done a lot of good work.
Doesn't necessarily mean I believe everything he says, but he does scientific work.
He's been working with AI for some time.
He loaded it up on, you know, his NVIDIA graphics computer.
You know, I assume he's probably got a 40 series, probably like a 4090 card.
Like you said, the 50 series is just out.
Maybe he has something like that.
My best card here in the house is a 4070 TI.
We're currently on a 3060 TI.
There are variations of these, folks.
But he said, hands down, there is no doubt, this is way more powerful and way more open source than anything else.
But he also made the point, kind of like you did, that if China is able to get to super intelligence before the United States, that's a wrap for everybody.
Like super intelligence is a real thing.
I would say that, man, it's so difficult because you're not wrong.
Like I'm not necessarily saying that the origins of DeepSeek are what they're telling us.
However, they might be.
I mean, there's a lot of hungry people out there.
This is derivative math.
China, I mean, for those that, you know, I watched a guy travel through China.
I think he's like some bankrupt guy.
He's a bald bankrupt man.
That's how you fall to bankrupt.
I love him.
I think that's how you find them.
But it was very, I suggest people go watch it so they can get a grasp on different aspects in different regions of the country because he does travel there.
The technology is certainly there.
I mean, even before we get to AI, China was a key place because of its cheap energy for people to grab NVIDIA graphics cards and mine Bitcoin and then Ethereum, etc.
And then, you know, that's tailed off a lot because proof of work is not the way that they're moving in, which is kind of convenient for all this AI smart contract meme coin nonsense, which is a whole nother aspect.
So for me, like you, my experience with AI is pretty limited.
The queries, I've done some live shows with Grok.
And for instance, I got Grok to show the conflicts of YouTube and Google and their military-industrial complex things.
But then when I'm asking Grok whether or not it's a meritocracy, it has to answer it's a meritocracy, not a meritocracy, but in the most massaged way possible.
Live Shows with Grok00:11:08
You know, isn't going to use the term shadow man.
It's always algorithm and boost and blah, So all of these, unfortunately, these AIs that we're dealing with seem to have like a sneaky gangster persona.
There's always, you could never, it's not, you're always going to have doubt surrounding them, right?
So that puts into question super intelligence, all of it.
And to kind of get to your point about Stargate, the other thing is they've sold the left so long on basically we don't have enough resources, right?
There's a shortage of all sorts of resources, and they continue to do it.
They're still playing into the idea that we don't have too many people doing too many things.
We don't have enough gas.
We don't have enough oil.
We're polluting the water and the air and it's all going to go away.
And nuclear power is bad, by the way.
One of the biggest things that's been drilled into us forever, right?
I mean, we watched the scary movies on it.
And now they're going to say, well, we're going to fast-track these nuclear facilities, but only for, you know, facilities that are the size of lower Manhattan.
So, folks, that purple area right there, and people are asking me how many city blocks it is.
Let's count it.
Let's count it down.
Let's see.
That's one city block, two city blocks, three city blocks, four, five.
I mean, it looks like it's about 120 city blocks.
It's a big one by about 40.
Okay?
Like, it is a massive, massive center.
And again, AI is going to be a lot running remotely.
They want it running on the cloud because if it's not running on the cloud, it can't be controlled as well.
Right.
And that's another problem with these things.
So I don't know how they're going to build that narrative other than through like a Trump guy.
And rightfully so, right?
Like he's going to push for these things.
He should.
But the fact of the matter is, these nuclear facilities should be utilized to give us cheaper energy.
Who knows?
Maybe we're really going to get the abolishment of the IRS and everybody's going to get on board and there is going to be a restructuring of the economy.
I know I said a mouthful there, but what are your thoughts on all of it?
I mean, I think we talked about the idea of small-scale nuclear reactors at least once in the past.
I mean, this is what's been powering our nuclear submarines all around the world.
And I mean, you've got kids right out of high school that go to a minimum amount of training.
You know, they don't get doctorates in nuclear engineering.
They end up on a sub and they can operate them with, you know, basically no problems at all.
I mean, I can't think of a nuclear sub incident that the United States has ever had.
You know, it's all coming down basically to the fear that was built up around Three Mile Island.
And that would be a totally different type of technology than what we're talking about with these small-scale nuclear reactors.
I mean, I am 100% in favor of that.
And I think we will have an abolishment of the IRS.
I think that we're looking at a complete restructuring of the United States from the ground to the top.
And energy has got to be a part of that.
I mean, if we have the ability to build reactors that are going to provide clean, unlimited sources of power to every single home in the United States of America, then we absolutely should do that.
Anything at all that we can do to increase the quality of life, to increase the wealth of the average American, to increase our longevity, to increase whatever you can possibly throw out there, any positive you can think.
I think that the government has a responsibility to do that.
There's only a couple of things that they have a responsibility to do.
And that would be to keep us safe and to guarantee our health, our wealth, and our happiness.
And I think that we have the ability to do that without destroying people in the process.
So if this is going to get rolled out, first of all, to AI data centers, then I think that's kind of like a proof of concept.
Okay.
Like, look at this.
We put this in here.
It absolutely works.
Maybe there's a little bit of extra power.
We can pump that into the grid.
And then, wow, before you know it, we've got individual small-scale reactors in every borough in New York City.
People's lives greatly improve.
And then they just, you know, boom, start pushing them out all over the United States.
Let's do it.
You know, my biggest fear is that all this is going to be rolling out so rapidly, right?
Like just, I don't know, I guess it's now six months ago when they put out GPT-4.
I was like, man, there's going to be a lot of people that are now going to start having relationships with these type of AIs.
I will say that hasn't been fast-tracked commercially yet, but it could be in the near future.
The thing is that even like these magic boxes, really the only advancements seem to be AI features, right?
And the conversation features not quite there, but you look at Apple, right?
And the number one app was DeepSeek right away.
So who knows?
Maybe this is the turning point.
Maybe we are going to see that in the next coming months.
At the same time, the good old Central Intelligence Agency director is talking about a national laboratory for artificial intelligence like the Manhattan Project.
I just want to say this.
They've already got it.
This is them telling you and then building a new facility.
This is what Google and NASA and DARPA have been doing for a long time.
Actually, you want to see something fun?
Let's do something fun.
We'll do it live.
Okay.
So that's right.
You know, for the first time ever, we'll play this on the show really.
We'll do it live.
Okay.
We'll do it live.
Fuck it.
Do it live.
I'll write it and we'll do it live.
So we are going to type in Google, NASA and DARPA in the beginning.
Let's see what comes up from Google itself.
Oh, wow.
It took off the Google AI answer.
Yikes.
That's usually it has, we did a video on it and it actually gave the Google AI answer and that the initial funding of Google and the algorithm, their search feature was from Indeed, NASA and DARPA together.
They funded Larry Page and Bryn.
Where is the AI feature?
Man, I've been having some.
I'm going to go to Chrome.
Yeah, I'm going to do it.
You know what?
You're right.
Because I've done it before.
And for some reason, that does seem a little iffy.
Let's bring a little chromage over here.
Let's see what we get this time around.
I just searched.
No, it took away the AI overview.
We're in Chrome now.
Oh, wow.
And it took away the AI over.
That is insane.
Let me try on Safari on my computer because I just did a search.
I was searching for something on E. Howard Hunt.
And hang on just a second.
We're doing it live.
Kind of.
Okay.
And let me, can I share my screen?
I don't know if you can.
You can try.
It looks like I can.
Yeah, go for it.
Let's see.
There we go.
Okay.
And there we are.
Okay.
So don't switch.
Google and what was it?
Google and Google and NASA and DARPA in the beginning.
I wonder if they took that away after my videos got long.
Yeah.
That is insane.
And you know what?
Now I almost feel like we've got to do it live.
Look at that.
I did switch to Google and NASA and it brings it up immediately.
Yep.
And actually, yeah, because now they're not talking about the origins.
Yeah.
Google and NASA and DARPA.
Okay.
Yes.
Type in Stanford.
See how this is how deceptive AI is.
See, and now it took it away.
Oh, okay.
I had an S on there.
Oh, man.
Why do you type in the word origin?
This is insane.
There we go.
Finally.
Now we get to the digital library initiative that it should have given me on the first one and used to give me on the first one.
By the way, it gives a much more elaborate breakdown than even what you're seeing right there.
Zach, thank you for sharing your screen.
Very well.
Again, see, that's why.
I mean, that proves my point as we have the conversation.
Garbage in, garbage out.
It learns how to mask and deceive itself.
No bueno.
No bueno, everybody.
We got more to talk about.
We got to take one last break.
I love having Zach Payne on and maybe a little bit of O'Reilly.
No, not O'Reilly.
We wouldn't want him on here.
I would eviscerate O'Reilly at this point.
In fact, my bet is that Jim Acosta is going to be working at News Nation and he's going to be buddy-buddy with O'Reilly really soon.
But hey, that's a wild card.
Take that break.
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Concerns With AI And Medicine00:04:53
So, Zach, that should just reiterate.
the concerns with AI, but let's talk about Stargate for a second.
And Joe Allen, the author of Dark Eon, a great book on AI, did a great piece on this.
And I do think it's really important because part of it is the continuation of this mRNA project that, again, is a DARPA project, is a BARTA project.
And like you said, whether or not they can actually tailor these things to everybody doesn't mean it's going to be available to you.
We've seen time and time a huge class gap in medicine.
You know, I'm going to give just a really quick class gap in medicine, and even for somebody with the means.
So many, many years ago, Brock Lesnar was fighting UFC.
And while he was fighting in the UFC, he was up in Canada, and all of a sudden his stomach was just a mess.
And they told him he had divertaticulitis and he needed to have this surgery.
Basically, he was going to have a colostomy bag the rest of his life.
He immediately left.
He went to the Mayo Clinic in the United States, fought many more times for the UFC, wrestled, is still wrestling, I think, time to time for the WWE, never got a colostomy bag.
It just shows you the huge gap in medicine.
And by the way, I had to watch Bernie Sanders sit there and go, is health a human right?
Is medical care a human right?
Blah, And it's like, I don't want the medical care that's going to give me the colostomy bag when there's the medical care that won't give me the colostomy.
I want the right to choose.
And that's the big problem with socialized medicine.
So the other real danger is I was hearing about, will you support mandatory vaccinations to RFK Jr.
mRNA is not a traditional vaccine, but now it's in that category.
And I'm sorry, I don't want mandatory gene sequencing and gene therapy injected into my body, spike proteins or not, Zach.
No, neither do I, and I don't think many people do.
You know, the idea, as you mentioned, that, you know, mRNA is the vaccine.
I mean, it's really a genetic manipulation therapy.
And I think that what they're truly afraid of is that RFK is going to come in as director of HHS.
And these things are going to be discovered.
They're going to be widely publicized.
It'll be on record official from the United States government as a policy of HHS.
Perhaps mRNA will no longer be considered as a vaccine and it'll be categorized as exactly what it is.
By and large, these people are worried that their pipelines from the pharmaceutical industry are going to shut down.
It was hilarious to watch Elizabeth Warren accusing RFK of making money off of the pharmaceutical industry, demanding that he would not accept money.
And, you know, she's taken all kinds of money, millions of dollars from pharma companies.
Most of those senators have.
But RFK answered and said, I don't think any of them want to pay me because he's been so critical of them.
I think that when RFK Jr. Is confirmed as the Secretary of Health and Human Services.
In the same way, we're seeing a dramatic top-down reimagining of the financial sector, of the workforce in the federal government.
We will also see the same thing in the healthcare sector.
Right now, this is a giant sucking pipeline of money from the federal government into the hands of large health conglomerates.
They are providing substandard care.
They are paying, excuse me, they are charging way too much money for things that don't make sense.
And they're deciding standards of care based upon what somebody can actually afford.
And right now, Medicaid is a disaster.
The amount of money that we're spending across the United States of America, it doesn't matter that people are covered by it.
I mean, if the coverage that they're getting is garbage, like you said, garbage in, garbage out.
It is, listen, again, I'm very hopeful that we can change what we eat in so many ways.
We can change the medicine that is distributed, the model.
I don't think it should be a port for-profit model.
I'm not a Luddite.
I want to see these technologies empower humanity.
I think that mRNA technology is not inherently evil.
But at the same time, the way it has been distributed and utilized certainly isn't pro-human, Zach.
I'm just saying, not so pro-human.
Pipe Bomber Reveal00:04:15
Moving along, January 5th, Pipe Bomber.
We got some new video.
Not that it really shows us much.
But for those that can't see, it's right over here, a little dickadickadoo of the pipe bomber.
We had Trump come out and admit the drones were ours.
Actually, left a little more wide open than I would have liked.
He said various other reasons.
Yes, they were doing technology.
Oh, really?
What about various other things?
I've always said surveillance drones, obviously, maybe reconnaissance.
There could be a number of things there.
With January 5th, after the January 6th, pardons, are we finally going to get the truth on this?
I mean, is this finally going to come out on what actually happened, which obviously looks like some type of a government or pseudo-government operation/slash drill of some kind?
The answer in short, I believe, is yes.
Just the other day, I interviewed a researcher that reached out to me on Twitter, and he's put together a pretty amazing tool using Google Maps, which traces the route that this alleged pipe bomber took as they walked through downtown Washington, D.C., going from these various buildings.
It sure looks to me like, well, on this map, first of all, you can see where every single camera is.
You can see public cameras.
You can see private cameras.
You can get a good look at exactly, you know, top-down what this looks like and what the most direct routes would have been.
To me, it appears that this person wanted to be seen.
You can also look at every single piece of footage that's been released to date, including this new footage.
Interestingly enough, in that footage that they just released the other day, there's a series of frames that are missing as he comes around that corner and then comes back down to sit on the bench.
You can also see in a number of these videos that the FBI has intentionally obscured the face of the individual that was caught on camera.
I think that when you put all of these pieces together, you're absolutely right.
This is an operation that was designed to cause maximum fear in the people, also to distract the local police presence just before things started going bad at the Capitol building.
And it would make it so that it would seem plausible to people who didn't look any deeper that the Patriots on that day had overpowered the Capitol police and broke their way into the Capitol building and then calmly walked through the velvet ropes and maybe picked up a couple of things.
Red Pill, 78news.com is where you're going to find all of it.
Zach, we didn't even get into the declassification stuff.
I think we'll probably save that for when we find out what the path for that is actually going to be.
But at the same time, I think we need more.
I would have actually liked to see some Malcolm X in there.
Maybe a little too radical for you, Trump.
Maybe too left.
But I would have liked to see that in there.
And obviously, I want to take it full force.
I want the 9-11 documents.
I want the real deal.
Let's shed light on Iran-Contra.
Let's break these networks up for real.
Let's give the American people and humanity in general a fighting chance because we damn well deserve one and we damn well want one.
I want to thank you, Zach, for joining us.
And I want to thank you guys for joining us right here on Patriot.tv, where the truth lives.