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We've got John Strand with us off the heels of the massive pardons by Donny T and the gang regarding January 6th.
You're not going to want to miss that.
And then we got Brian Reisinger to tell us why eggs are so expensive and what we can expect in the future via this bird flu scare.
You're not going to want to miss it.
Buckle up and get ready to make sense of the madness.
I was going to talk about the J6 hostages, but you'll be happy because, you know, it's action, not words that count.
And you're going to see a lot of action on the J6 hostages.
And I was going to talk about the things that Joe did today with the pardons of people that were very, very guilty of very bad crimes, like the Unselect Committee of Political Thugs, where they literally, I mean, what they did is they destroyed and deleted all of the information, all of the hearings, practically not a thing left.
They deleted all the information on Nancy Pelosi having turned down the offer of 10,000 soldiers.
You wouldn't have needed 10,000.
You could have had 500 and it would have stopped.
Because we may have had a million people that day, the people that were there.
You don't see any photographs of, but we have a lot of great photos.
But you don't see those photographs.
They don't put them in.
They show the people at the Capitol.
But I was talking about that.
I was going to talk about that.
They said, please don't bring that up right now.
can bring it up tomorrow.
I said, how about now in front of the very, I'll bring it up right now.
You know, this little time delay is good because we're getting great reviews on the speech.
Now watch.
They'll take the speech and say, I didn't like it because he left there and he's talked to people.
But we're giving you a little more information that we gave up.
But no.
They pardoned a lot of people.
They pardoned, before we even get to today, they pardoned, what is it, 33 murderers, absolute murderers, the worst murderers.
You know, when you get the death sentence in the United States, you have to be bad because they don't give it much.
And he pardoned almost everybody having a death sentence.
And if you went through the crimes that were committed, you wouldn't even believe them.
The level of violence, the people that were killed, the innocence of people that were killed and children killed by these people.
And he pardoned them for whatever reason.
He spared them.
But they didn't spare the people that they killed.
And, you know, who knows what happens in the future?
It's one of the worst because a lot of times they let him out early after that.
You know, they say you're going to be in for life, but then all of a sudden they get let out for good behavior and then they go on a rampage.
It's one of those little things, right?
But I was going to talk about that.
But I was really going to talk about the level of, you know, what's going on.
Why are we doing this?
Why are we trying to help a guy like Millie?
Why are we doing Millie?
He was pardoned.
What he said, terrible what he said.
Why are we helping some of the people?
Why are we helping Liz Cheney?
I mean, Liz Cheney is a disaster.
She's a crying lunatic and crying Adam Kinzinger.
He's a supercrying.
I never saw the guy not crying.
He's always crying.
I looked at him.
I remember years ago he was actually on my side.
And then one day, you know, when you don't want to kill people in wars, they turn against you.
Liz Janey hated the concept of not going to war with everybody.
Let's kill everybody.
Let's spend a lot of money on military equipment.
You know, where her father works, right?
And we are back.
We are joined by John Strand.
Now, John, I met you several years ago at an America's Frontline Doctor event in Iowa.
At that time, you know, Simone Gold was speaking.
She ends up doing jail time.
I talked to you.
You end up doing jail time.
Up until, I don't know, a couple weeks ago, people are still being arrested for the sham of January 6th.
And although it was a talking point and obviously spoken about a lot during the campaign and the run-up to this inauguration, people were unsure.
But Trump sure delivered on this one.
Blanket pardon, over 1,500 people.
I saw some of the lists.
I know there are some people that are contesting, but some names on there of people that I have interviewed or worked with in the past, Stuart Rhodes amongst them, of the Oath Keepers.
These are huge.
You know, Stuart's somebody I've known for well over 15 years, almost 20 at this point.
And, you know, when you look at the way these trials went down, how evidence was suppressed when the defense was trying to show the actual narrative, how a Department of Justice went totally and completely rogue and attacked so much of the American populace.
What are your feelings right now?
Because you must be ecstatic.
I saw some of your posts.
I saw the hugs.
I saw the kisses.
Give me your rundown of what the last 48 hours have been like.
Wow.
Jason, thank you for having me on.
And the feeling right now is absolute exhilaration, a total, complete, and historic victory.
Let's start there because that's the truth.
And it's a really important point to make when we are making sense of the madness.
I mean, the madness is really the war on truth.
The madness is this relentless assault against reality by the lunatic left, by the lunatic media, as I like to call them, you know, certainly the Democrat Party and Rhino Uniparty coward supporters.
But there's just such an assault on what's real in this world, whether it's COVID, January 6th, or otherwise.
So to make sense of the madness, we got to return to the roots of what's really true.
And what's true is that President Trump, promises made, promises kept.
That is not a slogan.
It is a reality we are seeing unfolding before our eyes in an unbelievable manner right now.
So we're really excited.
We're really grateful to President Trump for his courage, his leadership, and for his integrity, making good on that promise, not to let off his friends like crooked Joe Biden did, but rather to acknowledge, again, the truth of what really happened.
And the truth is clear.
The truth is from the government's own mouth, they admitted the FBI's dirty fingerprints are all over January 6th, clearly involved in an entrapment event.
From the government's own mouth, if you were an FBI insurrectionist, you got a paycheck.
If you were a MA insurrectionist, you got sent to prison for the same behavior on that day.
So explicit selective prosecution.
That's an overt violation of the equal protection guarantee of 4th and 14th Amendments.
And of course, as President Trump acknowledged, 100% conviction rate in Washington, D.C., which voted 90 plus percent for the Democrats and openly hates President Trump viciously.
So that's a clear violation of the Sixth Amendment guarantee of impartial adjudication.
January 6th was a constitutional abomination.
But that's just the legal warfare that the government waged against innocent unarmed protesters, American citizens in the four-year aftermath.
The day itself, of course, is fraught with indications of very concerning government corruption and nefarious involvement.
John, let me just stop you there.
It's not just that day.
It's the run-up.
It's the night before.
It's the pipe bomber, which I'm very glad that Donald Trump is now talking about whether or not we get to the bottom of that and we find out what actually happened.
Again, that remains to be seen.
But I want to talk a little bit about the promises kept because I run with the quote-unquote black pill crowd quite a bit, the Whitney Webbs of the world, who I love and I respect, the Derek Broses of the world.
And, you know, in so many of these forums that we have, they'll always come at me with, well, there's no real difference between this side or that side.
And I'll say, look, I'm not saying there isn't a uniparty.
I'm not saying the guy's going to deliver on everything, but certainly with the 1,500 plus people that just got released was not happening under a Biden 2.0 or a Harris administration at all.
In fact, more prosecutions would have come and this narrative would have been pushed further.
There are very tangible differences, in my opinion.
Does that make this guy and this administration perfect?
No, but I got to tell you, I love the fact that the guy went out there, he did his inauguration speech, he did another one, and then he went to work.
And not only did he go to work, he took a press conference while he was signing these things, talked to the press for over an hour.
That is more than Joe Biden engaged the press in perhaps his first two to three years in office combined.
And that is not an exaggeration, is it, John?
Not at all.
You know, they love to say that elections have consequences.
Well, now we've learned that rigged elections have consequences and President Trump is delivering.
So it's absolutely exhilarating.
It exceeds or it expands far beyond just the January 6th issue.
I mean, day one, he has withdrawn the United States from the totally corrupt World Health Organization.
That is incredible, mind-blowing.
Just a concrete example of President Trump making promises, keeping them, and actually delivering on what America needs and what we demanded in a landslide mandate victory on November 5th.
So, you know, you mentioned bird flu, and I'm excited to share goldcare.com, which I'm the creative director at America's Frontline Doctors and GoldCare.com.
So we're working actively on a patriot coalition platform to deliver medical freedom to Americans all over the country and actually all over the world so that they can, they, you know, they can actually wage battles to protect their constitutional rights, including their medical freedoms.
So there's so much at stake.
There's so much going on, but it does start with leadership.
It does start with men who will exercise uncomfortable courage.
It's what it says in the back of my book that I wrote in prison, which is called Patriot Plea.
Urge everyone to get a copy of that at johnstrand.com.
It will blow your mind.
I promise you that.
But the point of the book really is that uncomfortable courage, when we exercise what we know is right, when we have a clear choice between good and evil and we choose good and we stand up to fight against evil, that is when the world shifts on its axis.
That is when history is made.
That is when legends are born and the blessings of liberty for our posterity are secured and delivered, which President Trump is doing right now, in which every one of us as American citizens can participate joining with President Trump and the MAGA movement as we embark on this new golden age of America.
So you mentioned bird flu.
And I think that we've got to discuss really what I think is one of the biggest failures of the Trump administration the first time around.
That's the COVID 1984 nightmare.
Correct.
Correct.
And obviously, allowing the Fauci's, the Berkses of the world, the WHO, et cetera, to really have their way with him.
Now, I would argue that although he hasn't come out and said, hey, I was duped.
Hey, these people did the wrong thing to me.
He obviously did the Maya Culpa with RFK Jr. as the HHS secretary.
That's what that is.
It's right in our face.
Now, in the run-up, when RFK Jr. was actually running for president, I got to admit, I would have liked to see that debate because it would have been a spirited debate.
Obviously, warp speed would have been brought up.
Obviously, these shots, mRNA technology, perhaps even the origins of the virus.
And one of the things I really respect about Simone Gold is I remember those few years ago when she gave her speech and he said, you know, the next big lie they're going to tell you is this thing leaked.
And she's like, not a leak.
And I'm like, you're damn right it's not a leak.
And if you look at the evidence, you know, objectively in the United States in October, really before they even do the event 201 drill, doesn't get hyped up until January in China.
But now you even have Redfield out there going, oh, yeah, no, Chapel Hill.
And you look at DASIC and you see the New York institutions that may have been involved outside of EcoHealth Alliance.
That's a big thing.
RFK Jr. gets confirmed.
What are the first moves that he has to make?
Because this administration is moving in rapid fashion.
We know that Trump and him have already met with some of the pharmaceutical giants like Pfizer and others.
Where do you see that going?
Because yeah, I want the red dye out of foods.
I'm sick of seeing all these commercials about drugs that are going to give me suicidal thoughts and actions, but hey, maybe it'll clear my skin up or I'll drop 10 pounds, right?
Total insanity.
What moves does the new Trump administration and RFK Jr. have to make to make the Maha part of MAGA a reality?
Great question.
I would say President Trump has really already delivered the first step in the sense that he signed an executive order last night on stage in front of the world in a brilliant move, right?
To end government censorship wholesale, start to finish.
The line is drawn in the sand here and now.
So these are important questions you're asking about health considerations, about make America healthy again.
And clearly there is a mandate for that, as there should be.
But the first step is actually ensuring honest, real, genuine conversations and debate, because that is what science is.
Science is the pursuit of truth.
Science is always asking questions.
Science is presenting a theory and challenging it and setting it up to fail so that you learn.
So we need learning.
We need to make education great again.
We need to make free speech real again and make sure that everyone can ask any question that they have and that people are honest and legitimate in presenting possible answers, challenging them and learning.
Consider Multiple Voices00:03:37
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And so this platform facilitates that.
in a revolutionary way.
There's so many reasons why this is completely different and almost unconventional from what people have been used to for so long.
But when you ask what can Bobby Kennedy do, and we want him confirmed as soon as possible, we want President Trump and his entire cabinet to be confirmed and get to work.
And we do need to learn lessons from the past.
So President Trump and Bobby Kennedy, they have made mistakes before, depending on who is around them.
And it's important to consider who you're listening to.
So you want a multiplicity of voices.
And if you have free speech protection that allows everyone to contribute, the best ideas will rise.
So we are really grateful and proud of what Elon Musk has championed with the X platform and other free speech platforms that we all want to engage in and facilitate to make sure those conversations continue to happen.
But certainly we recommend that President Trump and Bobby Kennedy consider the voices that have been proven voices from the beginning.
Who was right all along in suggesting what was going to happen with the China lab and the many other lies surrounding COVID?
I mean, Dr. Gold and the frontline doctors, they were right from the beginning.
So I would suggest you give extra weight to those who have been proven right over and over again, particularly the ones that are most fiercely targeted with censorship.
That's another clue about truth tellers.
They don't fight to censor those that are putting a bunch of confusion and propaganda into the mix.
So a lot of different voices that you can find, but we need to just continue having those open conversations and making sure that the best ideas rise to the top.
When we're talking about free speech, to me, that is almost the lowest of bars when we're talking about a free society.
Without that, you can't have a free society.
And honestly, just that that's entered the vernacular after this onslaught of terminologies of misinformation, disinformation, them coming up with the term of malinformation, infusing that into the arena is extremely worrisome.
Obviously, there has been, if not a realignment, an attempt at a rebranding of some of these tech oligarchs.
Hey, Zuck, I'm glad you're choking people out in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
Let's see some real free speech out there.
You know, Bezos, great.
You have an Amazon Empire and your girlfriend's got her boobs out at the inaugurations.
Fantastic.
How about less censorship all the way around with the Washington Post, et cetera?
All that remains to be seen.
And I'm cautiously optimistic.
But at the same time, really, if we want a free and open society, we have to hold these people's feet to the fire.
We're going to take a quick break.
We're going to come back.
John Strand is our guest, more making sense of the madness after this.
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And we are back with John Strand.
So we've talked about RFK Jr., talked about the incoming administration.
You've alluded to these preemptive pardons that were last minute.
And I got to tell you, really horrible.
You know, these stories were out weeks ago.
And I was like, can they really do this?
Is this really going to happen?
But then you saw the Hunter Biden pardon.
And for me, when I saw that pardon, I'm like, well, why didn't you just make it his birthday?
I mean, you're really throwing it out there at 2014 with the Ukrainian corruption, Burisma, et cetera.
And then you see this slew of other pardons last minute literally being announced in the media as he's sitting down 15 minutes before Trump actually takes the oath of office.
That's his family.
About an hour before that.
Fauci, Millie, Kinzinger, Cheney, Raskin.
The list goes on, and I'm like blown away.
You can commit treason apparently in this country, never be charged with it, and just be protected for the treasonous activity that you committed.
Now, literally.
I mean, it's crimes against the United States.
We read the pardons on air.
Now, at least to his credit with his family, they were non-violent offenses.
So if his brother ended up shooting somebody in the head on tape in the last decade, maybe he can get charged with it.
I don't know.
But still, you know, I had Giuliani, for instance, on the program a couple months back, and he's got a book out currently about the Biden crime cartel.
And he starts talking and, you know, this and that.
And in case I stopped him.
I go, Rudy, let's stop.
No one's going to jail, bro.
You know, no one's going to jail.
I know no one's going to jail.
We have not had a system of accountability on an executive level for decades.
Really, John, if you look at modern historical precedent with the United States, the last time we got any semblance of the quote-unquote deep state or the bureaucracy or whatever, the establishment, whatever you want to say, any kind of accountability would be Iran-Contra, where they got caught running guns, four weapons, drugs, the whole nine.
Even there, people got smaller sentences.
They were often pardoned after the fact or commuted.
And they made Oliver North the face of that, right?
Oliver North got book deals.
He became a millionaire.
That's not how you discourage that type of behavior.
And eventually, like Rudy had to agree.
You know, there was nobody.
And, you know, Scooter Libby went to jail for Enron.
Trump pardoned him.
And really, Scooter just took the brunt of Cheney and the gang, right?
So how do we change that system?
I know Kash Patel says he's going in there, guns blazing, but can't do anything about January 6th, supposedly now, unless it's a state case.
And since it occurred in Washington, D.C., how do you do that?
Because it's not a state.
And then you look at all this other corruption involving his family, Burisma, Ukraine.
You've already got Central Intelligence Agency fingerprints all over that situation, which is going to make it difficult enough.
Obviously, this pardon doesn't help.
What are your expectations for the FBI when we're talking about reality, investigations, and accountability?
Right.
So a lot to unpack there, Jason.
I want to say right off the top, these preemptive pardons are nonsense.
They are a direct assault on reality itself.
The word pardon is an actual thing that exists and that matters, and we must define it.
It means to clear away a charge and or conviction that exists.
It does not mean you wave a wand and things that don't exist can't then exist later.
So to say that you're going to preemptively pardon members of your government of anything they might later have been determined to have done that was wrong, essentially it is a government license to commit crimes.
So we know with absolute certainty that Liz Cheney not only committed a crime, she violated the exact felony statute that she and her January 6th committee and Biden's weaponized DOJ put me in prison for for almost three years.
That should shock you.
It should disgust anyone who's digesting the reality of this.
This is not my opinion.
This is not me being upset because I was mistreated.
This is just me understanding the facts.
1512 is the 20-year felony statute that they threw me in prison for almost three years that I was given.
The name of that statute is tampering with a witness, victim, or informant.
That is precisely what Liz Cheney did.
It's documented.
You can't get around it.
So the irony is so rich.
Now, is she going to go to prison?
Probably not.
But wait a second.
How are you preemptively pardoning people for things that haven't existed yet?
You can't.
We looked it up on Grock AI.
Can you pardon someone that hasn't been charged?
No, a pardon is clearing away of something that actually exists.
So I think we need to challenge that fiercely.
It sets a ridiculous precedent, literally, that governments can issue a government license to commit crimes.
Not just ridiculous, John, an extremely dangerous precedent.
Very dangerous.
And the thing is, right now, you have those dates set, like I said, 24th, but that's arbitrary, just like any of this is arbitrary.
If you can grant somebody immunity from something that has never been investigated, I mean, you don't really have a system of justice.
You don't have any due process.
Challenging Pardons00:09:32
Correct.
And that's the whole thing.
Look, I'm not the guy that's going to sit there and go, nobody's above the law.
That's not real.
There are plenty of people that are above the law, not just in this country, but across the world.
If you just look at our diplomatic nationals policy, those people in many cases can commit crimes in our country, not citizens.
They're above the law.
All right.
People within the executive in certain cases, they can do things you and I cannot do.
They're above the law.
Our military and military-industrial complex in certain cases are allowed to lie to the public and are completely above the law.
We have to acknowledge these things.
And I think that we have to make the best effort with the ear of this administration that we want a constitutional republic of checks and balances back.
Now, you've had Mike Lee out there already saying Congress has to take the role.
Thomas Massey, probably my favorite person in Congress out there saying, hey, we're the ones that make the laws.
Nobody else does.
Let's bring that back.
And we've already had that Supreme Court ruling earlier last year where they acknowledged there are a ton of laws on the books that are completely and totally unconstitutional and never voted on by Congress.
I'd love to get your thoughts on that.
Oh, the Chevron Doctrine decision at the Supreme Court was massive.
I absolutely love the work that Senator Mike Lee is doing.
Shout out to him and credit for his courage and his clarity in communicating directly to his constituents using the free speech platform of X.
So we need those conversations to continue.
And specifically on the point you just made, there is nothing more important than reexamining and remembering what, first of all, that we are not a democracy.
We are a constitutional republic.
That matters immensely.
What is our constitutional republic?
What does that mean?
How is it supposed to function?
And how have we gotten so far off the rails, a thousand miles away from where the founding fathers intended it for us to be?
So let's talk about that because there's so many people that don't want to acknowledge the fact that a constitutional republic is not a straight democracy.
In fact, it has democratic values.
In other words, you are voting for your leaders.
You are their constituents.
But when you get to the really important stuff, when you get to the Constitution itself, and this is why I've always said, look, the Constitution of the United States was the perfectly imperfect document.
It knew it was getting a few things wrong and that there was going to have to be a method to change those things.
Blacks were not three-fifths of people.
Women should obviously vote, et cetera.
So what did they do?
They set up a system, not of a majority vote from within, but a two-thirds and then three-quarters vote in the House, knowing that if we were going to change something so tremendously that you needed more than that 51%.
And that's just one small aspect of our constitutional republic that doesn't involve the states' rights and the challenges to the federal government, all of which are extremely important and an integral role in systems of accountability and justice.
Yeah, absolutely.
There's always a huge danger with pure democracy, which can devolve into mob rule.
So the founders were very clear on that.
The quotes from the founding fathers are hysterical.
There has never been a democracy that has not suicided itself, essentially, is a paraphrase.
But they were very clear about this.
And I break it down in my book, Patriot Plea, this way.
Democracy is the verb.
Constitutional republic is the noun.
Okay.
So democracy is what we do as Americans.
The republic is what we do it for.
Democracy means rule of the people.
Demo is people.
So the people's voice is what is driving the conversation.
And the people's will is what should be representative in leadership and in the direction of the country.
But the mechanism and administration of that will is channeled through the guardrails of a constitutional republic because our founders, their greatest genius was understanding this one simple thing, and that is the irrefutable, inescapable truth of human nature.
Human nature is flawed.
It will always devolve towards a destructive end without guardrails.
So, and you cannot change that or wish that away.
That is essentially the poisoned heart of Marxist theory and communism and fascism and everything else that imagines that some person can do better than others and construct a utopia because they're the smart ones to get it done.
It's not how human nature works.
The founders knew that.
So they channeled human nature in the most productive manner possible with the guardrails of the Constitution.
And that's why we can never surrender or sacrifice those guardrails and the genius of the Constitutional Republic that they built.
If we can keep it.
John, let everybody know where they can get the book, support your work, and follow you on this journey that hopefully is coming to an end in the regard that we are going to see more and more justice for those that have been wrongly imprisoned.
Absolutely.
I highly encourage everyone to track, support, and follow the social media content on the digital free speech public square of x.com.
You can find me there at John StrandUSA, as well as JohnStrandUSA across social media.
And of course, johnstrand.com.
Please pre-order Patriot Plea.
That book will blow your mind.
And the call to action is powerful.
The conversation this book, I pray it will ignite in our country, truly can lead a revival of American citizenship and patriotism, a spiritual revival of recommitment to the truth of God and his word, which is what this country was built on.
That solid foundation is the only way to ensure our republic will survive and flourish.
So it's an essential commitment and opportunity for us to seize.
Please read and share that book.
And of course, continue to follow johnstrand.com for all kinds of incredible updates that are going to be coming very soon.
We'll continue to share those as we continue our battle for the soul of this republic, for a return to truth and transparency.
And justice is a really important liberty and justice for all, right?
So without justice, we will not stand.
What is justice?
Well, it is a recognition of the reality of what happened.
And it is a commitment to restoring what has been damaged or lost back on track to where it should be.
So we're championing restorative justice with a movement called WeARJ6.com.
Every single human listening to this can register as an advocate.
Anyone who is a J6 defendant can register as a defendant.
And we're going to coordinate the truth of what happened to these people and share it with the world so that they understand this is a nonpartisan mission to recognize the truth of the damage done to these people and their families.
And that restorative justice involves a recognition of the truth and a commitment to making it right, including significant and we hope historic financial restitution for these people who have been destroyed beyond your wildest imagination.
It will make you sick.
It will bring you to tears, truly.
So we owe it to these people and ourselves as a country to heal this divide and make these people whole.
So we're committed to that effort at wearj6.com.
Let me just say, I couldn't be happier for you.
Congratulations.
I know this has been an extremely long journey, and I want to thank you on the heels of this pardon, this massive moment in history for taking time out of your busy schedule to be with us today.
JohnStrand.com.
Thank you so much, John.
I really do appreciate you.
Thank you, Jason.
The honor is mine.
I appreciate your courage.
God bless you.
Thank you, brother.
We're going to take a quick break.
We'll be back with more making sense of the madness after this.
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Energy Costs and Farming Solutions00:14:18
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We are now joined by Brian Reisinger, author and generational farmer.
Brian, I am paying out the Arnis for eggs right now.
Now, usually I go get, you know, the 60 rack, the big guy.
I don't feed my dog dog food.
Don't get me wrong, I like eggs myself.
But in every batch I make, I throw four or five eggs in there.
Not just great for them physically, but I mean, they're coat shine, they're softer.
Eggs are awesome, right?
That's why you have the rise of people like Raw Egg Nationalists.
Like, it's an important food.
Right now, the prices are out of control.
I was doing the math on non-organic eggs in both.
I'm paying 30 to 45 cents an egg.
An egg when I remember a time pre-COVID 1984, I could walk into my local store or even gas station or convenience store, and you would have 79 cent to $1.39 for a dozen eggs.
Large, gray day.
I would hop on that all the time.
It seems like for some reason, those days are long gone.
Obviously, in the very beginning of the COVID-19 44 nightmare, eggs were through the roof.
The memes were out there of people holding like six eggs and like offers, no low ballers.
I know what I got.
What is the truth about what's going on with our livestock, in particular, our poultry, our eggs, et cetera?
Here's the issue that we're facing.
This is a kind of, you know, sequel to what we saw during COVID.
You're so right to make that comparison.
What we saw during COVID was the locking up of our supply chain.
It was a stress test for our entire food system.
And in many ways, we failed that test, right?
What the issue with eggs is showing is that we haven't completely learned that lesson yet.
This will continue to happen over and over unless we do something about our food system to have our local farms supplying more local and regional and specialty food rather than just relying on our current fragile supply chain.
So you've got bird flu that will hit a farm or a processing facility or spread through the chicken, eggs that are already in the distribution centers, whatever the case may be.
When you take down a large facility because of concerns about bird flu, you have a massive impact on our food supply.
So that's the reason people many times can't find eggs anywhere.
And if they can, they're through the roof.
And we have to understand that this is really serious because eggs are an important staple food and families can't afford it, number one.
But number two, it speaks to the larger risks.
We're getting warned again where our food system is, we're seeing that teetering going on and we have to take heed of it.
So obviously, yesterday is a big day.
Trump gets sworn in.
He goes right to the executive orders and not only goes right to the executive orders, holds a press conference while he's doing it, speaks to the press, I think, for a little bit more than an hour, which would be more than the first two to three years of the Biden administration combined while he's doing that.
What were your thoughts on that first day?
Because, you know, obviously some of the promises that have been made have already been kept.
Our first guest, one of the January 6thers, that was a big issue to me.
But at the same time, we got to hold this administration's feet to the fire.
And I got to tell you, I'm not in love with this decision out of the gates.
If you look at this, folks, we're pledging almost half a trillion dollars or more than half a trillion dollars to HASS to accelerate some kind of bird flu vaccine when I'm not so sure that the United States human populace needs that.
I'm not in love with the talk of mRNA technology being utilized on our livestock.
Where do you see this going?
Are there going to be new types of inoculations, not just for people, but for livestock, birds in particular?
Because there are so many people like myself that want to see less of that, not just with our livestock, but also our produce.
For instance, one of the ads that's running here in Iowa on the radio are pro-glyphosate ads.
Now, I've never been a big fan of Monsatan.
I'm certainly not in love with the fact that years ago, a lot of people forget this, they merged with Bayer, the pharmaceutical company, and they did so at a time they were losing massive lawsuits based on glyphosate, Roundup in particular, and its connection to non-Hodgkin's lymphoma.
I'm sure you've had to deal with glyphosate and other types of chemical products.
What is your overarching view of this?
Because again, the ads they're running in Iowa are like, the farmers want glyphosate.
Let's not ban it.
And I'm like, whoa, I don't know about all that.
Maybe we can find something different.
So I want to hear from a farmer on that issue.
Yeah.
In the short term, what we're seeing is that we're trapped in these series of terrible choices, right?
We've got situations where we want to move our food system away from having those kinds of chemicals involved.
We want to move our farms toward growing more of our local, regional, and specialty food.
And at the same time, we have a lot of farms that are locked into some old traditional ways of farming that are, they're working to work their way out of it because of government subsidies and limited market opportunities and other factors.
They've only got a certain couple kind of crops they can grow and they're trying to turn a profit.
So we're stuck in this weird situation.
I think you probably will see the Trump administration continue to make some really kind of difficult, complicated choices that people on both sides would probably like to have turn out differently in the short term.
The real way to break out of this in the long term is to do something about the disappearance of American farmers, as you and I've talked to before, losing 45,000 per year on average for the past century.
We continue that for the next generation.
We're going to wipe out the majority of our family farms in this country.
Another 40 years at that pace, and our family farms will be gone.
It will really only be the massive large facilities, be they farms or food processors that are producing our food.
If that happens, we are locked in forever into choices like you want a bunch of chemicals in your food and you want no food, right?
And that's not the choice the American people should be left with.
So in the short term, there's all these difficult, fraught things.
I think you will see more movement toward that stuff.
In the long term, I think if we can address the disappearance of our family farms, we can sidestep that dilemma.
We don't have to pick between food with chemicals in it and no food.
We can be growing more food in more places and getting it to more American dinner tables in more new ways.
Now, obviously, in your book, Land Rich, Cash Poor, the focus is the family farm in the United States and how it can not only survive, but hopefully thrive again in this country.
Number one, what are the farmers around you expecting to happen in the coming weeks and months to hopefully put us in that direction?
And what do you feel needs to be done in those coming weeks and months to make that a reality?
Yeah, I think what you are seeing with farmers, the folks that I talk to back home and people across the country I get a chance to talk to as a result of the book, people are hoping that there's a way to bring costs down or hold that increase in costs down.
So whether it's energy, seed, fertilizer, energy is a big one.
I mean, that is skyrocketing and it's a huge built-in cost for farms of all sizes and types.
They're hoping that the cost of energy and other things can be brought down.
They're hoping that that can happen at a time when they also maybe have some good existing markets, maybe some decent prices in their existing markets and maybe move into some new markets.
Those are the hopes.
In order to do that, we need to have a very nimble and fast set of actions that are taken now and that are carried out over the long term.
And what I mean by that is we need to get regulations out of the way.
We need to get tax out of the way.
Things that are increasing the cost, especially on those small family farms, we need to make sure that government isn't making it harder for them.
We can do that in the short term.
Over the long term, we need to reinject innovation into the American agriculture system.
It's a proud part of American agriculture that has been slowing.
We need an R ⁇ D revolution.
We need fair markets domestically and internationally, as you and I have talked about before.
If we can make those kinds of policy changes over the short term, that is what can really make kind of kick it into gear and allow us to make changes over time.
Because right now we can get government out of the way in the short term.
But over the long term, there's a series of bad decisions that have been made by both parties over decades that we have to undo with more innovation and more fair markets for our farmers domestically and internationally.
So let's talk about the energy aspect.
I think one of the things that many people voted for Trump for again, or maybe did for the first time out of the three times he run is the fact that we were eating $4 to $5 gas on regular in the Midwest.
Forget about when I would go visit to California, you would see $5, $6, $7 gas.
East Coast, New York, not great either.
Some of those prices have been reined in the last six to 18 months, depending, but I'm still paying $4 for premium gas over here.
I'd like to be paying $250, $3 max like I used to.
I think that that definitely could be on the way.
I mean, the term drill baby drill was used hundreds, if not thousands of times by Trump in this run.
What are your thoughts on cheaper energy?
Because we're not just talking about gas.
There are plenty of people that have gas or oil for their homes, right?
And that's something that exploded.
My brother's heating bill for his house in upstate New York in the country literally more than doubled during this administration.
You know, we talked about a lot of the costs of goods, services, and food going up, right?
Lumber exploded, food exploded, but the energy cost really crippled people.
And if you're running on those energies and it's not just a three to five bedroom home, which in this day and age is already large, but it's an entire farm.
I mean, you're talking about energy bills that can be in the thousands, if not tens of thousands for the bigger farms every single month.
Yeah, that's absolutely right.
You know, again, there are things that can be done now, and then there are things we need to do over the long term to change our system.
In the short term, you know, go and listen to those folks, listen to those governors and states that say, hey, we can do more drilling here.
We can do an environmentally safe way and we can open up some of a resource.
You know, those folks that are expert in where can we go offshore, where are the places that we can do that?
There are all kinds of, if you actually talk to people who aren't just engaged in the politics of this, there are people who will tell you that there are resources we can open up and you can combine that with getting tough with international negotiations with some of the folks who supply our energy as well.
And so those are the things that we can be doing now.
Once again, we have to also look over the long term because of how long-running and deep-seated these problems are.
And the American farmer can be part of the solution there too.
Now, I know that ethanol is a controversial thing, including amongst conservatives who will debate it in different directions.
So I'm going to set that aside for a moment.
But there is, as part of a research and development revolution, there is room for other types of crops and products to not only feed the American family, but also supply new types of energy.
It doesn't have to be oversubsidized.
It doesn't have to be a boondoggle, but new types of innovation to help with sustainable jet fuel, things like that that can allow us to create other ways to increase our supply as well.
So again, short-term and long-term action.
We want to take bold action now to deal with this.
And we want to look over the long term to make sure we're making some of those systemic changes to make sure that we don't find ourselves back in this place five, 10 years from now.
Absolutely.
The book is land rich, cash poor.
We're going to take a quick break.
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Fierce Action on Tariffs00:05:34
So let's talk markets.
Let's talk taxes.
Let's talk tariffs.
Another big, big talking point of this administration.
Even yesterday, you hear about it.
Tariffs, tariffs, tariffs.
China, South America.
I mean, they're everywhere.
As we've discussed previously, he even floated the idea of abolishing the federal income tax and the IRS.
I'm not holding my breath.
Love the rhetoric.
Love to hear it.
Probably not happening.
However, I do think there is going to be something to the tariffs and the markets.
What is expected in your wheelhouse, in your arena, and what are the steps that have to take us there in short fashion?
And let's say those steps aren't occurring.
What pressure do you have to put on this administration to ensure they move in that direction?
Yeah.
Well, there's a lot of issues and political missiles being fired back and forth over the last several days in many, many directions, focusing specifically on how ag and our American farmer is affected by the tariff issue.
I think what you're seeing is you're seeing an administration that is studying this issue very clearly and very closely.
You know, the president has talked about taking massive action pretty immediately.
And I think what you're seeing is a little bit of a legitimate push-pull because you have many people, including American workers and many American farmers who say, we've got to get tough on trade.
We have to wipe out these unfair trade deals.
It's also true that you'll have ag groups that will say, okay, but also we need to make sure that we don't allow retaliatory tariffs from other countries to make it harder for our American farmers to sell goods abroad.
The reality is there's a little bit of truth to both, but there is a way to get tough on trade.
There is a way to wipe out these unfair trade standards with a targeted strategy.
So I'm watching for two things.
One is when and how does President Trump's administration take action around tariffs?
Now, the world knows he will do it.
He's kind of got the madman theory thing going on where people don't know what he is or isn't going to do, but they know that he means it, right?
So I'm watching to see what is he going to do on those enforcement actions that force countries to the table and negotiate.
But then the other thing we need to be watching is what's happening behind the scenes.
That's a little trickier because we don't get to see that all the time in real time.
But behind the scenes, what kind of negotiations are happening with these other large trading partners to make sure we're wiping out unfair trade barriers and keeping fair markets to farmers open?
And also, what other countries are we going and negotiating with?
We have a world where we can step away from these big, massive trade deals that have huge trade-offs with multiple countries, multiple products.
It's good in one way.
It's bad in another way.
It's screwing the American worker, the farmer over here.
It's helping over there.
Focus on negotiating with individual countries on individual products.
So if President Trump takes fierce action around tariffs, but it's smart and it's being done alongside of negotiations to get those large trading partners in line and open up more fair markets across the globe, he can emerge having wiped out unfair trade standards and open up American markets, American goods to more markets.
It can be a total revolution in terms of how this happens.
What are some of the suggestions that you would give to the family farmer right now to start doing in the midst of this administration that's going to ensure that they thrive, not just survive?
I mean, we don't want them to go under.
And then what would you say to somebody that's actually thinking about getting into farming?
In other words, they live in the country.
Maybe, you know, the guy down the road is a farmer, doesn't have kids or grandkids that want to get into the business.
They're buddies.
They've thought about it.
They like the sustainability game.
You know, they've already getting the cow and the produce from that individual.
They say, I can do this now too.
Don't get me wrong.
Like farmer's blood is real, folks.
I mean, that's a lot of working to get in there.
But what are the suggestions that you're giving people?
What are the tools that they can use right now to really accelerate their profits and accelerate the viability of their system?
That is such a crucial question.
And when I'm talking to people across the country and including on our farm, our fourth generation farm in Wisconsin, as my dad continues to operate and my sister works to take it over, the whole name of the game as much as possible is diversification.
You know, so many farms have been locked into growing certain types of crops because of government subsidies and other unfair market conditions.
And the reality is that we need to begin to diversify.
So what we're talking about as a family on our farm is, okay, we've got these couple traditional crops that we're growing.
How do we take a couple acres and put it towards something that's an alternative crop?
How do we explore a new food product?
We're constantly trying to figure that out.
That's what the American farmer needs to be doing because these are small businesses and it takes time to make transitions and you can't make it all at once, right?
And so farms need to be looking at what can I grow that can be sold locally or what can I grow that can be sold into a specialty food market?
Those people who care about where their food comes from, how can I grow something that can fit that market?
And it might be they can only put five acres into that or 10 acres into that.
They got to keep growing other traditional crops for now.
The reason is they're small businesses.
They're operating on tight margins.
It takes money to transition to a new crop or product, and there's risk to it.
So set aside a little bit of acreage, try to figure out a path towards something that could be a new and budding market for you.
Make that transition over time.
Begin to try to do that now.
And then for our policymakers, they need to understand that we want to switch this system to one where farmers are growing food that's sold locally and regionally.
But we need to make sure that farmers are able to make that transition.
Making the Transition Locally00:01:04
The book is Land Rich, Cash Poor.
Brian, what would you like to leave the audience with?
You know, I think I want to leave the audience with a little bit of optimism, which is despite having lost so many of our farms and despite the upheaval and the increasing costs of late, we've still got nearly 2 million farm families that are working hard, working to grow our food.
And so we've got a system that doesn't work for them.
Imagine if we did something that did work for them.
And so I'm hoping people get a chance to pick up the book on Amazon or other online retailers or bookstores across the country and just get this conversation going around how can we support entrepreneur opportunity for our farmers.
Absolutely.
Once again, the book is Land Rich, Cash Poor, My Family's Hope, and the Untold History of the Disappearing American Farmer.
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