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Ladies and gentlemen, we got a great show lined up for you today.
We've got Lee Smith on about deep state gangsters and his new best-selling book.
You're not going to want to miss that.
And then we've got Seth Leibowitz on the Reawaken America tour.
Really talented artists did some really great portraits in the style of Alex Gray.
Buckle up and get ready to make sense of the madness.
You know what your problem is?
I'm angry that I have to be here to testify about the weaponization of the FBI and DOJ.
Your problem is you think this is about justice, and it's not about justice.
It's about mitigating damage.
There was a deep rot within the FBI.
They said that the FBI suspended me in order to financially devastate us and leave us stranded in a new city without any support.
What ultimately kind of was the final straw for me was I got poisoned twice.
The Justice Department and the FBI, they don't get promoted by not charging you.
They don't get promoted by not ruining your life.
Look, everyone, we're getting more January 6th subjects.
At this point, if the worst of the worst haven't been arrested, like, what are you doing?
The FBI agents, we have taken off child sex trafficking cases to swat people's houses.
I think we all know, James Cohen, that you're a great storyteller because you made up the entire story about Crossfire Hurricane.
As far as the allegations of CIA hacking into Senate computers, nothing could be further from the truth.
We wouldn't do that.
They were hell hint on destroying me.
It didn't take very long, maybe four months before the FBI ended up raiding my home and began a couple of years worth of retaliatory harassment.
Several FBI whistleblowers that call themselves the suspendables.
It was as if my name was Toxic, which a lot of them are having trouble making ends meet and taking care of their families.
And that's one reason, of course, why the FBI and the Department of Justice are punishing them.
To set an example, I would have to fight communist-like totalitarian tactics, particularly working for the Central Intelligence Agency, where I'm supposed to defend and protect the Constitution of the United States.
Instead, I was supposed to defend and protect the bureaucracy first and foremost.
If any of you are thinking of blowing the whistles, look at these boys.
They can't feed their families anymore.
So think twice and you better fall in line.
And we are now joined by Lee Smith.
He is an investigative journalist and author, also part of the Deep State Gangsters documentary.
His latest book is Disappearing the President, Trump, Truth Social, and the Fight for the Republic.
Lee, thank you so much for joining us.
I know the book has recently been released.
Why did you choose this subject matter?
And obviously, being a part of the Deep State Gangsters film, I would assume that over the years you have seen a shift in journalism and an attitude towards whistleblowers.
Yeah, what the book is about, disappearing the president, it's a comprehensive, comprehensive account.
It's a comprehensive history of what's happened over the last eight years, how Donald Trump, his aides, and supporters have been targeted.
So that's one crucial piece of this book.
The other important, I think very new and very vital is that we've been talking about the deep state for during this period.
And the deep state, of course, we know what it is.
It's the permanent bureaucracy.
It's unelected officials who think that it's their right to run the country.
I think, though, that we need to add, I think we need to add a little bit more, fill out that picture a little bit more.
I make the case in this book that our problem is not an abstract entity, right?
It's not a blob.
It's not a system.
There's actual leadership behind this.
And what I do is I identify the leadership.
And at the top of this organizational structure, I put Barack Obama.
And what I do is I show in the book, you know, I had a pretty good idea of Obama's role in the anti-Trump get Trump operation.
But going back and finding that he's really at the origins, at the starting point of every part of this multi-pronged campaign to go after Donald Trump, whether we're talking about the censorship campaign, the surveillance campaign, the election interference component, whether we're talking about the struggle over COVID lockdowns and the goal to break Trump's economy in 2020, and perhaps most significantly,
the campaign of political violence.
A lot of people have said right now after the two attempts on Donald Trump's life: well, it's really the rhetoric of the media, and it's really the rhetoric of people like Jamie Raskin or even Democratic candidate Kamala Harris comparing Trump to Hitler.
Well, all of that's true, and all of this augments the dangers.
But I tie it back and I show the central moment, the most pivotal moment is in December 2016 when Barack Obama gets his CIA director John Brennan to produce an intelligence community assessment finding, I mean, it's nonsense, but finding that Vladimir Putin helped Trump to the White House.
What this does is it not only delegitimizes Trump's presidency, but it effectively labels Trump's supporters, as well as Trump aides and indeed the president himself, as Russian assets, either dupes or willing accomplices in an effort to undermine the United States government.
So that right there is what splits the United States.
And we've been living that divide since December 2016.
It wasn't just a political dirty trick by leaking to the press this nonsense dossier that some British super spy says Donald Trump's a Russian agent.
No, this was a concerted effort by the then president of the United States, Barack Obama, and his intelligence officials to stamp this conspiracy theory, this campaign of vilification with the seal of the government of the United States.
So that's the argument that I make in my book.
And I think it's really important that we be able to move forward identifying the leadership.
Because again, there are so many bureaucrats in Washington, D.C. Our fight can't possibly be cleaning 25 to 50,000 bureaucrats out of positions in the federal government.
That is to commit us to an endless and unwinnable conflict.
We need to look at leadership.
We need to go after leadership and get the people around them.
And that's what I do in disappearing the president.
I say, who's been running the Get Trump campaign and provide an organizational structure?
Who else is around Obama, whether it's donors, lawyers, journalists, intelligence chiefs, big tech oligarchs, Wall Street, Wall Street, Wall Street actors as well?
So again, that's really the heart of disappearing the president.
So there's a lot to hit on there.
I want to start with the idea of accountability and names can be named, right?
Because number one, when we talk about the bureaucracies, one of the things that I really liked about the Ramaswamy campaign, again, I think a lot, not a lot, all these people are imperfect, but he talked about on day one, cutting each three-letter agency in half via a social security number to do mass firings.
I think that's brilliant.
I'd never thought of it.
I don't think the government stops.
I think that's one way to at least cut it down.
Now, at the same time, when we are talking about executives, and I mean within the executive branch somewhere, or that surrounding bureaucracy, a lot of people, what they would call the deep state, I haven't seen any accountability in my lifetime.
I'm 45 years old, and I would say Iran-Contra was the last time we saw any kind of accountability of this kind of executive within an executive.
And a lot of that was slaps on the wrist, ceremonious.
People got pardons, commuted sentences after the fact.
Somebody like Oliver North, who has made the face of it, really not the face of it, but made the face of it.
He gets book deals and radio shows and television appearances.
Not the way to deter that behavior.
You got to go all the way up to Scooter Libby, I think, until another person within the executive circle is successfully prosecuted at all.
And really, he took the brunt, the fall for Enron.
He was actually pardoned by Trump later on, but that's it.
And that's very obscure.
So now, when we're talking about these people that you can name, I think Brennan is absolutely one of them.
And there are many others.
I see just, I don't know the path there.
You know, I had Rudy Giuliani on the other day, and he has a book out right now on the Biden crime family and the blueprint to prosecute them.
And I made the same point.
How do we start actually getting accountability in these arenas in the injustice system we're currently under?
Well, the most important thing in the event Donald Trump wins is to get a real attorney general in there.
And then that attorney general is going to have to bring in a dozen to two dozen lawyers who are going to spend an awful lot of time cleaning out the rest of the Justice Department.
Well, not all of it, but maybe 200 of the people that the Democrats at the Obama administration and now the Biden administration is seated in there.
So that's the most important thing because you can't move on anything.
You can't hold anyone accountable in the bureaucracies and you can't investigate the people you want to investigate.
Congressional investigations are not going to do it.
So many people were talking about, you know, when Republicans took control of the House in 2022.
Yeah, we're going to have like a new church commission.
As I explained in disappearing the president, the church commission was largely a disaster.
The church commission is what led to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which is the program that was used to spy on Donald Trump and his aides from the 2016 campaign through two years of his present through a year of his presidency.
So again, this is not a bureaucratic fix.
It cannot be a bureaucratic fix.
And as much as I respect Vivek Ramaswamy, I've also followed what he's been saying on Twitter.
And I'm sorry, I don't think he's doing it purposefully, but this is misdirection.
No, if we're going to fight the bureaucracy, I mean, you know, Americans know this because we all have to deal with bureaucracies personally.
We go to the DMV.
Now, can you imagine waking up one morning and saying, I'm going to devote the rest of my life to fighting the DMV?
I don't like the way that things are run down there.
They're not polite.
They're corrupt.
Things aren't done on time.
So that's what I'm going to do.
I'm going to fight the DMV.
Well, that's preposterous, right?
What you do is you go after leadership.
Because these people are bureaucrats, even at the FBI and the CIA, right?
The people who work at Langley, these are not people with daggers between their teeth.
People in the field, perhaps that's true, but not the people by and large who are sitting at Langley, who are sitting on the seventh floor at the FBI.
They're bureaucrats.
They do not move from their desks without a piece of paper, right?
When we talk about the deep state, we're not talking about Turks, right?
We're not talking about Turkish intelligence officials and Turkish military officers who are hard men.
These are not hard men.
We need to go after leadership.
Going after the bureaucracy is a bad idea and we can't win it.
Renewing the church committee, bad idea, pointless.
It will only strengthen the FBI.
Why?
Because the FBI is playing on its home court, right?
They have an enormous lobby.
Same with the CIA throughout Washington.
They not only have an enormous lobby themselves, but also they've penetrated Congress.
When everyone says, oh yeah, the FBI, they have all this dirt on Congressmen.
They don't have dirt.
They have dirt maybe on a few congressmen.
The big thing is they have all sorts of FBI people who are working with committees and who are working with congressmen, and they effectively recruit them.
Remember, they're spies.
So that's what's going on in Washington.
To try to fight that is a losing hand.
We need to go after leadership.
And by leadership, I'm not talking about John Brennan or James Comey, who are also fundamentally bureaucrats.
We need to go after the people who keep raising their hands and saying, it's me.
Now, I've spoken with different senior congressional officials, former officials, who say, well, I don't know, if we go after Barack Obama, if we name Barack Obama, start investigating him, won't that seem racist?
All right, okay, then that's fine.
Then that's what's going to happen.
Then you can go after the deep state and you can go after everyone whoever quotes Sololinsky and we'll get nowhere, right?
Once you start naming the names and targeting, zeroing in on the people who are in that circle, then you're starting to get somewhere.
Then people start to talk.
Then people start to get nervous.
Will the media be furious?
Of course they will.
But of course the media will be furious as well if you decide to cut every three-letter agency in Washington in half.
So why waste time going after the bureaucracies when the goal, as Rudolph Giuliani knows as well as anyone else, when you're going after a large group of people, when you're going after a conspiracy, you have an organizational chart.
You figure out who you're going to get and for what purpose.
Who's moving money on behalf of what causes?
Who's on top of the chart?
How do we get them?
This is what they've done to Donald Trump.
This is why they targeted Michael Flynn and Roger Stone to get to Trump.
They didn't go after fourth-level Trump officials as a matter of sport.
The goal all the time was to get to Donald Trump.
So that's my argument, disappearing the president.
I hope very much that as we go into this election season with lots of hope that Donald Trump will be reelected as president of the United States, that the people that he names and that his goals, that his goals are tightly focused.
And that's not about going after the bureaucracy.
We're going to take a quick break.
When we come back, I want to talk about the Russia aspect of all this because we're still hearing, even today, Russia's ready to interfere with our elections.
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When I was a kid, I was still doing the duck and cover drills, right?
Russia was the big nuclear power.
You're very afraid.
You know, you're a little guy.
You're in the hall.
You're, you know, curled up in a ball, the whole nine.
Fallout shelters.
The whole thing, right?
You watch The Day After Tomorrow with Steve Gutenberg.
They really hammer it home on you.
Yeah.
But then you get to the point where Gorbachev knocks down the wall.
I mean, even before the internet or the 24-hour news network, I don't even know how many times as a kid I saw Reagan go, you know, Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.
And then it kind of moves into like Russia rock arena.
They bring in Boris Yelson.
He's rocking the vote on MTV.
Everything starts to be kind of normalized and westernized almost with that relationship to the point, even when Put Put gets put back in there, he's doing galas and balls with Kurt Russell and, you know, singing on Burberry Hill.
You know what I mean?
It had moved way in the direction where really Russia wasn't the enemy.
The new enemy was, you know, Muslims, the war on terror, the Middle East, be very afraid there.
Somehow, some way, in that 2015, 2016 era, they were able to flip the script again, and all of a sudden, Russia was the boogeyman again.
They even demonized Trump for daring to have open talks and relationships with Putins when the previous president sure did.
I mean, like, that wasn't a new thing.
So, how was that narrative able to be shifted so rapidly and effectively into something we're still seeing today?
Well, because there are two different Vladimir Putins, right?
They're two different Russia, two different Russias.
There's the real Vladimir Putin, who actually does represent a threat to American interests, certainly in the Middle East.
And, you know, and I covered the Syria war extensively, and I understood exactly how Barack Obama's administration was coordinating with the Russians.
So they were very, very close with the Russians during the Syrian war.
And that was one of the things that tipped me off that Russia gate was nonsense because no American president had ever worked more closely with Moscow than Barack Obama and Barack Obama officials.
So that's the real Vladimir Putin.
There's a real Vladimir Putin who is a threat to American interests, but that's not who Democrats are talking about.
That's not who they're worried about.
The Vladimir Putin that they're worried about is a fictional Vladimir Putin who's elevated Donald Trump to his position of power.
So there's, again, a real Vladimir Putin who does represent a threat to American interests.
And then there's the fake Vladimir Putin, the, you know, Donald Trump's friend, right?
Donald, Donald Trump's controller, right?
And that's, and that's a fictional Vladimir Putin.
And it's a nonsensical view of Donald Trump as well.
But that's where the Democrats are.
I think it's important as you were talking about all that stuff, reminding me of what Cold War culture looked like.
Yeah, remember who the bad guys were in the day after.
It wasn't the Soviets, it was the Americans, right?
Throughout West, in most of Western culture, throughout the Cold War, it was the Americans who were the bad guys.
Whether we're talking about Dr. Strangelove, whether we're talking about the, what was the song?
99 Luft Balloons.
Who was that?
Nina or something like that?
Two versions of that one, by the way.
And by the way, I love, that's one of my favorite.
And, you know, again, my generation didn't really watch that one, but Dr. Strangelove is a classic that holds up to this day, black and white, Peter Sellers, and all.
It's a great movie, but who are the nuts?
The bad guys are the Americans.
Well, don't you think?
Wait, at the same time, hold on, let me push back a little bit here.
Look who's been put in power right now.
We got a dementia-ridden zombie that before.
But I mean, but before that.
But no one thought that was going to happen.
But it did.
And before that, I would have referred to him.
Yeah, and by the way, before that, I referred to him as Joey B because he was a gangster.
Like, he was literally that guy that came in with that gangster-ass attitude all the time, cracking jokes.
And the thing that I didn't see coming, even when they put in Biden, right?
I would argue, again, that we've had varying degrees of what a president is, right?
George W. Bush, for instance.
I don't necessarily think he was running much.
The people behind him, I may not like them.
In fact, I despise most of them.
Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Rove, go down the line.
They're capable vipers.
Is Milley really capable?
Like, you know what I mean?
Is Lloyd Austin really that capable?
Is he a Colin Powell?
I don't think so.
You know, it would be possible.
Again, when it comes back to leadership, this is what I mean.
It kind of comes back to what I'm talking about, right?
Because you could see a Mark Milley or a Lloyd Austin being, you know, being useful, being useful public servants, being good bureaucrats.
I don't know if they're good administrators because that's a talent all its own, but you can see them being good public servants had they been directed.
Instead, instead, because of their egos, instead, because of their attitudes, they were pushed in another direction.
So you had, for instance, Mark Milley telling Bob Woodward for one of his books, yeah.
And then I called my counterpart in the People's Republic of China, and I told him that if Donald Trump lost his mind and started attacking you, that I'll give you a heads up.
Well, and this was celebrated in Washington, right?
And what was treason was celebrated in Washington because that's what that is.
Right, exactly.
I will give you advance warning of U.S. troop movements in the event we go to war with you.
I mean, it's insane.
And Washington celebrated it.
But you can imagine someone like, you can imagine, or I can imagine someone like Millie being a good public servant had he not been caught up with these poisonous influences, right?
Same with people like Mattis, who I understand was a, you know, was a very impressive combat commander.
You know, and if you look at Rex Tillerson, too, the guy had a lot of success.
But what happens when they get to Washington?
They come under all these poisonous influences.
And, you know, and they have very big egos.
They think they're superstars.
And so that's an enormous issue that we'll be facing going forward as well.
And I think my belief is that Donald Trump, again, if he is elected, he understands that he chose some bad people last time.
People who were not pursuing the interests of the American people and people who were not helping.
Let me jump in there because he has acknowledged some of that, right?
I mean, even Just On Rogan, he talked, I believe, about Mattis specifically.
He talked about Bolton specifically.
He even gave a pretty good anecdote of, yeah, this guy was a wackadoo, but when I walked into a room to negotiate something with Iran, they knew that he meant business.
So in that regards, it was actually a possibility.
Yeah, that's what Trump told me, too.
He said, yeah, when I interviewed him for the book, he said, you know, Bolton's nuts, but I mean, it helped me with negotiations walking into a room because everyone would look back and go, oh, boy, that guy Bolton is nuts.
We better listen.
But at the same time, hold on.
There's another point there.
He's still praising Pompeo.
Pompeo speaks at the RNC.
You know, Pompeo's a guy that helped talk him out of putting the JFK files, obviously had influence in regards to what happened with Assange.
And obviously, there didn't need to be a pardon there.
They just need to drop the charges at the time.
In fact, if you look at that, both administrations, or potential administrations, have been completely silent on the fact that Assange essentially pled guilty to journalism on a low regard, but that sets an awful precedent that you can be charged successfully with the Espionage Act for essentially doing journalism.
Well, again, as I said, I think that Donald Trump understands that he brought in some people, lots of people, you know, and he's talked about this, and other people have talked about this who've come out of long, have had long talks with him about this, like Robert F. Kennedy Jr., about the kind of people that Trump would bring into another administration.
You know, I like the way that RFK Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard are phrasing it.
They say, yeah, we know that, you know, not everyone's going to see eye to eye on this, but there'll be robust debate about what a new Trump administration would look like, who the people are that they're going to bring in.
Lee, we have run out of time.
Let everybody know where they can get the book and what would you like to leave the audience with?
Well, they can get it at Encounter Books is the publisher.
They can order it directly from encounterbooks.com.
And of course, it's available on Amazon.
It just came out on the 29th from Amazon.
So they can pick it up there as well as Barnes and Noble.
And I always like to encourage people to visit their local independent booksellers.
What do I want to leave them with?
I want to leave them with the idea that this is a very that while we've been through many trials over the last eight years, it's a time of great optimism because of Donald Trump and because of the people who have joined forces with Donald Trump.
When we hear what Elon Musk is talking about, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
So we're looking across that bridge, across that bridge, the American future looks really bright and really hopeful.
And that's the best way to, the best way I think to think about this election season.
Lee Smith, thank you so much.
We're going to take a quick break and more making sense of the madness after this.
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Ladies and gentlemen, we are with a very, very talented artist, Seth Leibowitz.
Now, unfamiliar with your work, was talking with one of your buddies, showed me a couple pictures of your work.
We're going to display that.
I took a little video of two of your pieces, and immediately I saw the Alex Gray influence.
I'm a big tool fan.
I've watched the Alex Gray documentaries at the same time.
I'm not in a cult.
You know, they have this whole, actually, one of my ex-girlfriends was at their commune like a decade and a half ago as well.
So very well aware of that.
First of all, you are extremely talented.
How do you get into the art field?
Then, how do you kind of get an approach?
I would assume like a kind of an apprentice, a mentorship from Gray himself.
And then kind of, how'd you get into this arena from there?
Well, thank you, first of all, for having me on your show.
Big fan of what you're doing.
Grateful for everything.
I am a tattoo artist, and I saw a lot of these tattoo artists painting.
So I started tattooing, got into painting from there.
I was immediately attracted to Alex Gray's artwork as a child.
I draw eyeballs on everything on my tests at school.
And when I saw his artwork as a child, I was immediately attracted to it.
And a friend of mine said, hey, I'm going to Burning Man.
I'm going to be out in the desert for a week.
No running water, no money.
Basically, living off of the land.
And why would I want to go to the desert and do that?
And he said, Alex Gray is going to be there.
I'm like, I'm in.
I'm in.
So I went out there in 2006, met Alex and Allison, immediately clicked, hung out in their dome all week long.
I have photos of us painting together.
He told me to come to his place in New York, Chapel of Sacred Mirrors.
This is when he was downtown New York.
Big fan.
I listened to Tool as well.
Had a great time.
They recognized me.
And it's me to be recognized by one of your favorite artists on the planet, one of your biggest inspirations.
I was like, oh my God, I can't even believe this is happening.
So then I just started, I repeatedly went back to Burning Man, traveled back up to New York from Pittsburgh to their gallery, started live painting for them.
And then I started taking their workshops as well, so I could learn from them as well.
The kindest people.
I became very close with them.
They let me stay in their house.
I've spent a lot of time getting to know them.
And so their influence is very heavy on my artwork.
I guess you would call it visionary artwork.
Looking inward, I've done a lot of psychedelics, a lot of DMT, LSD.
I've never done anything hard like heroin or anything like that.
More mind-expanding Reddit and mind.
The psychotropic stuff.
Psychotropics.
Plant medicines, whatnot, mushrooms.
I've been there.
And that really has opened my mind to new ideas, different ways of thought.
And unfortunately, in 2020, I thought that I was close enough to, I had an art community.
I had a tribe.
These were the people that I felt that I was a part of.
And not only live painting there, but I was live painting at music festivals, concerts.
Started getting my artwork out there, meeting a lot of people.
Really enjoyed the scene.
To 2020, I immediately knew something was up.
I've been studying Agenda 21, all the NASA documents, everything since I was actually, this is very, kind of a side note.
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As I was growing up, I grew up with these two girls, and their father had me airbrush his Humvee in 1994 with aliens.
He worked on HARP.
He was the man, the gentleman that cleaned up the Exxon Valdez oil spill.
Told me about the TR-3B, all this interesting stuff.
Dr. Joseph Resnick, unfortunately, just passed away.
Received blood that they weren't sure if it was contaminated with mRNA or not.
And he ended up with Guillain Beret and died of a blood clot in the heart.
So, you know, God bless Dr. Rez, put me on my path.
Actually, he was the one that introduced me to Alex Jones back in like 1995.
So this is something, you know, being, you know, seeking the truth and what's really happening.
It's something I've done.
You know, I didn't grow up as a normal childhood.
I would go to my family reunions with homemade books and tell people that they're spraying us like bugs from the sky.
Well, they are.
They're spraying the bugs and the rest of us as though we're insects in the sky.
And really now, it's been multiple decades.
And it's the weirdest thing, you know.
I remember, for instance, and I didn't watch it, but the Don't Look Up movie, right?
And you have to deny your own visual reality constantly.
And I'll tell you what, I don't talk a lot of politics with my nieces who I take care of.
I want them to grow up.
I want them to have their own ideas.
Certainly when I hear or see things, we'll have a conversation.
But I can't help myself when we're driving along on a summer day and it should be totally blue skies and I see these crosshatch patterns and I can see a team of four to eight planes in conjunction doing this.
I can't help myself but be like, I get angry and I say I don't like them spraying the skies like that.
And the kids, you know, are a little bit receptive to it, but they know how angry that makes me.
Because again, if you point up, I'm supposed to be the crazy person.
And the thing is, I don't even use their terminology.
I learned very well from Rosalind Peterson, right?
I never use the term chemtrail because it is defined by them as a conspiracy.
Demonized.
Yeah, and instead, what she would do, and what I like to do, is prolonged jet contrails.
Prolonged jet contrails.
Prolonged jet contrails, you know, and again, on varying degrees.
And from what we know from people that have tested the water, the air, Dane Wittington, the vegetation, Dane, among many others, what do we find?
Barium, aluminum, strontium, different types of sulfur oxides, etc.
And the bottom line is we really don't know what else is in some of them, but all of this is micronized and part of the bio-nanotech arena.
Exactly.
It's weaponry.
It is.
It's aerosolized weaponry, and it's invisible to the eye, so people don't even know to fear it or be aware of it.
And you do have to use terms like geoengineering or aerosolized or stratospheric aerosolized injection.
Solar radiation management.
Solar radiation management.
And, you know, it's funny because people will be so scared of an invisible virus.
But you look up and you just see checkerboards in the sky.
You don't question it?
It blows my mind after these last 25, almost 30 years of noticing this.
Yes.
It was a phenomenon.
You know, I'm 45 years young that certainly was not around when I was a kid.
Even when I was a teenager, it wasn't until really I went to college in 97 that I started noticing these things.
But again, you know, I didn't question them.
Number one, they weren't as extensive, right?
No.
You certainly, if you did see them, it was rare and it wasn't creating basically a gray or a mist or a haze around the sky eventually.
But by post-9-11 in the early 2000s, I clearly saw a ramping up of this.
And questioning 9-11 made me question what exactly was going on because even when I was a little kid and you'd see the plane and you'd see the little trail behind it, the water condensation, it would pass.
Disappear.
It would disappear.
And I still, as a kid, would be like, mom, what is that?
Or I talk to the science teacher, hey, how does that happen?
If you do that with the other thing, they still try to tell you it's water vapor.
I've showed people the video of the sped up video.
You see the line and then it falls.
It's a material falling.
When does water vapor fall and rain down on things?
It's just mind-blowing that people still would like to contest that.
We're in an age now where people should be questioning more than what they do.
So you were telling me these two girls, no, this gentleman kind of put you onto this.
Where does it go from there?
Put me onto this.
So also, my art teacher that I grew up with, Terry is just a beautiful woman.
Her husband ran Pittsburgh Paint and Glass and decided to break away because he was actually William Cooper's top researcher.
And a lot of the stuff he was using, the photocopiers, the PPG accidentally leaving documentation and possibly getting fired for doing that kind of stuff.
But he ended up breaking away, starting his own company.
Right now holds four patents for nanomaterials that are being weaponized against us, which is he's a God-fearing man Christian, one of the greatest humans.
This was not the intention for this and also the substrate for this.
He's been selling to China, working with companies like ANS that's a subsidiary of Lockheed Martin Advanced NANO Systems and had no idea that his invention, that he thought that he was doing to help humanity, is being flipped on him.
You know, I tried telling him.
I was like look, if I invent a hammer and you build a house with that, that's great, but then this guy over here whacks someone in the head with it.
You, you know, I can't be held responsible for that.
So every type of technology is dual purpose inherently yes okay, and unfortunately, just like information itself, things can be weaponized exactly, and it's scary that people's eyes aren't open to it.
Now, more so than ever, I love seeing people talking about this.
I love seeing you know the help of, you know Infowars and truthers of yourself.
You know, especially with loose change, that was a big impact.
I talked to people all over the place.
I have a child in another country in Eastern Europe.
People there have seen your movie.
It has made a big deal so so.
So tell me about.
You know this 9-11.
You know it's great.
I just want you to know that we've been very blessed that that got out there and you know again, I think it was one of those things.
Don't get me wrong, I think luck had something to do with it.
But you know actually, me and Alex.
You know Alex ended up producing Loose Change, final cut.
But we had that discussion and you know when it broke.
We also, I think, the timing of it right.
I don't think that Loose Change can go as viral without ironically, Google and it's because at the time, Google that was Don't be EVIL had created a platform called Google Video in competition with YouTube.
A lot of people forget that YouTube is really the last platform slash technology.
That was not like seed funded by intelligence or you know corporations working with intelligence.
It was just bought out by that corporation for eight plus billion dollars because Google became a viable competitor as well.
But they realized that branding of YouTube, had we not had the Google videos and the YouTubes of the day that were free, fair and open and without algorithms, it was literally, if you shared it, people looked at it.
I don't know that we get there right and, and you know, we've had certain documentary films that have been able to go viral outside of the system, but very minimally.
Plandemic would be probably one of them.
But even if you look at something like you know what is a woman, or am I racist?
By Matt Wall, 2000 Mules yeah yeah, 2000 mules.
They have a limitation right, they have an echo chamber.
Unfortunately, loose change surpassed all that it did.
You know it didn't matter if you were a Democrat or a Republican.
You had the same chance of seeing it posted by your friends or family.
You know what I mean.
Well, the thing about 9-11, it was a traumatic experience that the world all shared together and you know that's part of the psychological experiment from the Tavistock Institute.
You know they have to like, shock it all, like the Challenger, the Challenger explosion, so something like that that really hits, hits the heart of people around the world, not just Americans but all around the world.
And so loose change I mean what is it?
Didn't even Spike Lee do a documentary on 9-11?
So Spike Lee actually commented on loose change many years ago as well.
He was one of the first really uh, prominent people that commented about the Pentagon.
He recently, a couple years back did a documentary on 9-11 where he was actually going to include stuff about the controlled demolition and I believe he had What's that?
Building 7?
I don't know that he, I think Building 7 was part of it, but all of it.
All the control demolition.
I think he actually had interviewed Richard Gage of Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth.
And then he was forced to edit that out in the final product.
In fact, there's articles all about it.
But that doesn't mean that he still doesn't question that event.
I would give Spike Lee credit, you know, number one, from going, a lot of people start in the documentary business and try to make feature films.
He did the opposite of that.
And I would also note that when he did, when the levees broke, he did ask the question as to whether or not they blew those levees up.
And he was one of the few people to do that.
Wow.
That is obviously post-loose change.
So I think that hopefully we add a little bit of skepticism to him and the possibility of putting that out there.
But, you know, that's the whole thing, right?
I'm not trying to preach to the choir.
I'm trying to reach as many people as possible.
And I don't expect you to believe what I say or maybe what I put in a documentary.
But what I do expect you to do is if you don't believe it or don't agree with it, challenge that information.
Try to find the counter information and then look at both sides of the story or all sides that you can and use discernment.
Discernment is something that is not discussed enough and it is not used in practice enough.
Instead, these echo chambers actually do exist and people look on a surface level of whether it be their favorite network show or even alternative show and automatically believe them.
When I see or hear Jones talking about a document, right?
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The first thing I do is I go get that document myself.
Got it?
Yep.
Well, I'll download a PDF.
Or download the PDF.
And then I'll not only read through it, but let's say it's absolutely massive, right?
And there's no way I'm reading 854 pages.
What I will do is, depending on the subject matter, I will go through the document.
I'll search for keywords.
Keyword document, yes.
Once I do the keyword search, then I'll read subsections pertaining to that.
Do the same thing.
And then from that, I can put those out there.
And then, but I'll always say this.
Is there a counter to that somewhere in the document?
Again, keyword searching.
And I'm always open to criticisms and alternative viewpoints of that.
And then you've got to engage, right?
I question everything.
Yes.
And even if it's something plain in front of my face.
I don't just accept anything blindly.
And I don't follow people blindly.
So somebody that I do trust and I do respect, you know, getting back to Elon.
You know, I started on this big Elon kick.
I thought this man's making rockets that can go up to space and land on their own.
I thought this was incredible.
I got onto Twitter just so I could follow his information.
I was really, really big into this.
And, you know, technology, I was a little bit skeptical because Nikola Tesla is my oddmost hero.
And this, you know, the Tesla car does not run on free energy.
So you stole this man's name, put it on a car, and you're mining lithium and destroying the planet.
And by the way, Tesla is not a car company.
It is a technology company.
There are plenty of other EVs that were around prior to that.
Even major companies like Ford, et cetera, had tried to do it.
They didn't have the government subsidies to keep it alive.
And then you look what Tesla did.
They partnered with Kurevac to print up the hate and lie shots.
He actually increased his wealth 600% during COVID-19.
Yesterday in my presentation, I showed a screenshot of him going before Germany and the EU with Merkel and others, standing in front of these micro factories that they built, showing you the technology that they were going to inject you with.
Top of that, it is also behind the Optimus robot.
And I've always warned people against humanoid robots because the bottom line is we're not perfect in the sense of doing types of labor.
If you want to build a robot that is useful in that sense, you don't just recreate human beings, you actually make them better, you make it more persistent, and you don't necessarily go with the human form.
When I see a bot like Optimus, I think that is an acclimation technology to get you used to more robotics that are humanoid and not necessarily automation.
That's very problematic because obviously that's the road to transhumanism, in which his other company, Neuralink, is really at the commercial forefront.
Well, that's what happened.
And getting back to the CureVac, I actually got kicked off of Twitter after Elon Musk bought Twitter because I went and I screenshotted his Curvac information and posted it all over Karen Kingston's Twitter.
I woke up the next morning with a picture of a rubber chicken and said something went wrong here.
And my Twitter was gone.
And I'm like, oh, wow, so what about free speech here?
Unless you're talking about Elon Musk.
And there's screenshots.
There was no speculation.
It wasn't even anything out of my own.
Well, here's a funny thing.
The Adrian Dittman character, who I do not believe to be Elon Musk, by the way, I think that it is probably a person with a voice modulator plus an AI.
So I think it's an AI product of Elon that they're trying to create.
But every once in a while, it's imperfect, just like GPT, and they can't have the whole, you know, oh, the servers are down.
So you need an actual human.
But at the same time, if that is the case, obviously he would have access to that account too and could kind of dopple gang in.
But the first question I asked Adrian Dittman was specifically about Curvac and Tesla.
And it, you know, it, him, they, whatever, not only didn't want to answer it, it got caught up where it didn't have an immediate answer.
So as to where, you know, usually it's Johnny on the spot, there was like a two to three second pause and he goes, we're not talking about medical questions today.
And if you haven't seen it, you should.
I need to.
It actually ended up being a really engaging conversation about simulation theory with Dippman because immediately he tried to obstruct it and get into David Icke.
And I had to say to him, well, actually, I don't subscribe to David Icke or the simulation theory on either side.
I think we are in base reality.
I do too.
And, you know, we had a very big back and forth where that's what we should have is like open discussions.
The problem is that discussion should have been about Curevac, mRNA, and Tesla.
Instead, it was subverted into a larger scale thing that you can openly talk about without criticizing Musk.
And here's the thing: whether you like Trump or whether you like Musk, and those two paintings are very impressive of both.
Thank you very much.
We, as the people, the ones that are supposed to form our government, a government by, for, and of the people, we have to hold our elected officials to their word.
Okay, so that means like you have to have the constructive criticism and then the will to put it out there when they go against that.
And then, in the proper manner, not you're orange, you're a Nazi, you're a domestic terrorist.
But you promised us the JFK documents the first time and you couldn't deliver.
Now, it's been reported that it was Pompeo that swayed you otherwise.
Yet Pompeo was speaking at the RNC this year.
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That's a no bueno, man.
I don't understand how some of these things can slip through the cracks.
You know, you have these infiltrators.
I don't know if these are being allowed to be there so you can show people the evil, so everybody can see it and kind of outfit on your own rather than accusing and then you being some sort of like, oh, you're accusing people.
And then they demonize you for that.
It could be one way.
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So then let's get in to kind of obviously 2020.
You know, maybe a falling out with Alex Gray because of the COVID-19 episode vaccination issue.
Well, it started with the ivermectin.
And so originally, you know, Dr. Pierre Corey in March of 2020 made the announcement about his success with the ivermectin.
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And I immediately, one of the first people, you know, because I've spent hours talking about conspiracy theories with Alex Gray.
We've talked about nanotechnology.
We've talked about how the government has weaponized technology against humans and the distrust for government.
And in 2020, I sent information about ivermectin and got no response.
So I sent more about hydroxychloroquine.
And as time's gone on, Francis Boyle was talking about the Franken shots that are about to come.
And I started sending him information on that.
And he's basically kind of ignoring some of that.
And I wished him happy birthdays.
He's asked me how my daughter is doing.
Seriously, on a personal level, I have not seen anything dark from Alex Gray.
I've only seen positivity, very childlike innocence almost.
He's welcomed me into his circle, into his home, fed me, ate dinner at his dining room table in his personal home.
So to me, once the shots came out and I was testing the injection point with magnets and keys and such, I started sending him my documentation on that.
And then I started, when I found out that we're all magnetic now, whether if it's a cell phone sticking to a chest or a key and even non-ferrous materials sticking to the head.
I sent him all that data as well because this man paints electromagnetic fields of the human body.
He paints energy radiating, you know, coming from and to the body.
I figured out if anybody on this planet, Alex Gray would be excited about this information.
And he wrote me a very long message back stating basically in a simple way to put it, please do not send me information like this.
I'm working on Entheon.
We love you.
And basically it was a really nice send-off goodbye.
It was a, we love you, F you.
It happens.
It happens.
You're no longer welcome to paint in our house anymore.
And it wasn't just him.
I've lost thousands of followers on Instagram.
I've been cut out of circles.
I used to live paint at music festivals, concerts.
I've been parts of many gallery shows, even tattoo conventions.
Who are the big tough guys?
I'm a tattoo artist by trade.
That's how I pay my bills.
All of the tattoo conventions have banned me from all of them.
I'm not going to say names, but one very prominent gentleman said, I'm a misinformation super spreader.
All for posting CDC, FDA, you know, and patents and whatnot.
Super spreader.
That was a good Bernesian.
Misinformation super spreader.
Super spreader.
And I will not be allowed to step foot in any of his conventions.
And that broke my heart.
I thought this was my tribe.
And I've come to find out that these people just, you know, vegans, vegans who will not eat a protein bar because it has honey.
We're the first in line to like, all right, let's give me that shot.
You know what I mean?
I'm like, wow.
For a tattoo artist, you got mild tattoos.
What about tattoos?
Well, I grew up into tattoo.
I grew up and I didn't like tattoos.
I didn't think that you could really do what you wanted on skin.
And I saw a portrait of somebody did of Kirk Cobain.
Brother, you don't have to say thank you to me, but we have run out of time for the segment.
Oh, I'm so sorry.
No, no, no, no, brother.
Liz, we did over a half an hour.
Oh, wow.
It's awesome.
What would you like to leave the audience with?
And how can they find and support your work?
Well, I would like to leave the audience with the thought of don't blindly follow anybody.
Even if they seem to be 100% with your thoughts, values, and everything, question everything.
I've been told that by Dr. Resnick in the early 90s, and it has put me on my path and put me in the right places in life.
And that's my best advice.
And to Elon, if this ever gets to you, please, please, do not allow the AI to take over the nanomaterials that are already in our bodies to control us.
We want to be free-range humans.
And I am grateful for the things that you have done and the innovation that you have done.
But please, you know, let us be free-range humans.
That's all we want to be.
And look, what I really like about what you just said there is don't trust anybody.