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Oct. 6, 2024 - Info Warrior - Jason Bermas
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Welcome to making sense of the madness.
We've got a great show lined up for you today.
We got my buddy Adam Riva coming on from Dauntless Dialogue.
He's got a new documentary, actually a couple.
I mean, the guy pumps them out.
The crucible of Donald Trump time of deceit is what we're going to be talking about.
Then we've got retired Colonel William Dunn with us.
is going to be talking about AK-47s and I don't know.
Odd lone shooter nut jobs in and out of Ukraine without any kind of real employment.
That kind of thing. We got a banger of a show for you.
you're not going to want to miss it. Let's get ready to make sense of the madness.
We did it! We did it, Joe!
You're gonna be the next president of the United States.
What are these false claims of widespread election fraud doing to our country right now?
If we are right about the fraud, Joe Biden can't be president.
Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.
and Dr. Jill Biden.
Heaven forbid, if we don't protect this democracy, this constitution, against false narratives, against demagogic, wannabe authoritarian leaders, shame on us.
The Russians are here. They're ear-infering in the election.
They're at the heart of these leaks.
They're working with WikiLeaks.
When you talk about misinformation on social media, you try and censor it, you try and, you know, prevent it from spreading, and the virus finds its way to another host.
It was the top scum, and the FBI people don't like the top scum.
Only president of American history to be impeached twice.
Sadly, the person who's running the executive branch is a deranged, unhinged, dangerous president of the United States.
They want to demolish our heritage so they can impose their new oppressive regime in its place.
If you don't impeach him, he might be elected again.
That's the fear.
We are just in the midst of a transformation process where we move in the world from a unipolar to a multipolar world.
Congressman, I've never completely understood the term deep state.
President Biden, he is sharp, intensely probing, and detail-oriented and focused.
I don't need you to get me elected.
I need you once I'm elected.
It was essentially a bloodless coup where they took over the presidency of the United States without a single shot being fired.
He's gone! We will never give up.
We will never concede.
It doesn't happen. You don't concede when there's death in the.
And we are back. We are joined by Adam Riva.
We just watched the trailer for The Crucible of Donald Trump.
This one's going to be Trump-heavy, I suppose.
But before we get into all that, we've known each other for some time.
I'd say probably around close to a decade at this point.
You are one of those guys that pulled yourself up from the bootstraps.
You don't have any kind of traditional training in editing or film or web design or anything that goes in this arena.
And you have literally been able to bring your voice time and time again to a digital audience, create your own platform, which as you know in this business is probably the way to go if you want it to stick around.
Very tough out there.
And continually put out amazing content like this.
So before we get into this latest project, what was the spark that got you interested?
And then what was the push that got you moving?
Yeah, thank you, Jason. First of all, it's a pleasure to be here and I always appreciate coming on.
The push is to just bring a little bit of class and quality to a much needed digital landscape of information.
So if we can do better research and present it in a better fashion, I believe it'll stand out.
It'll be what I call evergreen.
It'll stand the test of time.
Hopefully 10, 20, 50 years from now, people will continue to go back the same way that you and me We go back to the greats who came the generation before us and we look at their body of work.
I hope the same thing will be the case for Dauntless Dialogue.
You know, for me, it's kind of the same thing.
I mean, you didn't answer my question and give me those two moments, but that's okay.
You know, I always tell people it's not about Jason Bermas.
It's never going to be about Jason Bermas.
Jason Bermas is going to be in the ground one day.
And I don't know when that day is.
I hope it's not Tamari.
I hope it's way down the line.
But my videos aren't.
And even me ranting and raving and doing talk shows like this one, that's going nowhere.
So there is going to be this record for the future.
And I hope that this is more reality-based than the AI-driven post-truth world narrative that is now just not only being presented to us, but thrust upon us in a manner most never thought possible out of.
I totally agree with you.
Right now, AI is starting to write the record.
And if you just do a Google search or even on DuckDuckGo, you're getting met with pre-curated answers to your questions.
So you can continue to outsource your discernment and continue to outsource your decision-making process to the Borg.
And that's concerning for those of us who actually understand the levers that are being pulled behind the scenes.
So let's talk a little bit Donnie T. We're two assassination attempts down in short fashion.
We're a little less than six weeks out from the actual election.
People have already voted by the droves in many places.
We have corrected none of the internal processes that have clear roads to corruption that have only expanded over the years from the last time.
Is this why you decided to do the quote-unquote crucible of Donald Trump?
Or were you kind of in the middle of this as the assassination attempts, etc.
occurred? Yes, the latter.
So actually I set out to make a documentary that was about election interference, election fraud, and overall election integrity.
And as I started to get into that process, I keep my finger on the pulse.
I'm watching the daily news.
And so I started to feel like maybe we should take this in a new direction.
And fortunately, John Harold and the guys over at Badlands who were producing the film, he kind of allowed me to just tell that story, the one that I wanted to.
And it quickly became more than just a political documentary.
This film actually follows very closely the hero's journey.
And Donald Trump is up against a million different, you know, lies and attacks and assassination attempts.
And so as our leader, as the next commander in chief, it's up to us to kind of I mean, you watch the love fest with the quote-unquote other side, and it is repulsively vomitas, right?
And that's not to say Trump's perfect.
I got plenty of problems with the last time he was in office.
At the same time, I really, and this might be my hopium, I try not to delve into the hopium, but I'm not a black pill guy.
I would love to see him do what he said he's going to do regarding these documents, a.k.a.
JFK. RFK, MLK, but especially 9-11.
Now, you especially know that this is really close to my heart, but it's not about Jason Bermas, everybody.
It's about the fact that the narrative that we were sold on via 9-11 is literally the launching point for our entire foreign and domestic policy that has brought us into this authoritarianism and outward corruption.
Period. Full stop.
If we can pierce that facade, and it even...
First of all, can he get all the documents out there?
Lord knows. I'm highly skeptical.
But let's say we get a good amount that clearly show we were lied to on a multitude of levels.
Maybe even some things dabbling into Building 7.
I mean, hey, I've read some of the...
The documents that were put out there in 2018 of the Larry Silverstein cases, if the public actually even knew those were out there, that puts a giant hole in so much of that narrative as well.
John O'Neill is mentioned again and again and again in these documents as security Kroll.
Almost nobody went through these things, and that was a small portion.
Let's say we just get the dumps those guys got, and it makes the news.
That could have a huge effect.
Now, I don't know. If that stops the deep state, you worked on the Flynn movie.
I've interviewed Flynn recently.
And I think Flynn's assessment of, hey, even if you get Donald Trump in there, he goes, four years flies by like that.
He's buying us time.
There's a lot we have to do.
There's no one coming in and it's poof.
Everything's going to be great.
So... What are your thoughts on all that?
Because we haven't even gotten to the assassination attempts.
We were just talking about being assassinated by the press time and time again.
But all these things are reality.
And listen, again, I think this time around, he's a little wiser to the game, but will he be as effective?
No doubt. And we can have a rational discussion about the degree to which There is a white hat campaign behind the scenes in the information war.
We can have a debate about whether or not, you know, the degree to which that is playing a role.
But I think ultimately there is an awakening happening and the public's receptiveness to this sort of information is way more, a lot higher than it was just four years ago.
So the grassroots demand, the grassroots support for this sort of thing and the sweeping actions necessary.
To clean out the deep state, to drain the swamp.
I think that support and that demand is there.
So we are winning in that respect, but we have a long way to go for sure.
I mean, it's super long.
I'm not convinced, number one, that there's not a third assassination attempt.
And a third one, I don't think it's a gun.
I think we're in the realm of car bomb, plane crash.
I think there's big questions about him being in Arizona and all these individuals just getting sick behind him.
That type of thing.
And I think that his children, quite frankly, could be a target.
I don't think Ivanka...
Yes, Ivanka is on the table.
I think she's off. I think she's protected by the Kush.
But... But I think Don Jr.
and Eric might want to watch their back.
Maybe even Tiffany.
You know, the child you don't hear about is kind of still a mess.
I mean, that would be crushing to this guy's ego.
If there's anything about Donald Trump that the media doesn't want to show you, is that, look, he's vehemently behind his family, no matter what.
That's another big thing.
I just saw him picking up his grandkid, etc.
And for me, that's a strong characteristic and trait.
and you look at his kids and how they have been able to stay out of the
spotlight, stay out of scandals, say what you want, seems like he was a pretty
decent dad given the situation.
And so, you know, I'm getting a little bit of an echo.
So it's a little distracting.
But there's a lot of other attempts that we aren't really hearing about.
We hear about the main two or recently this third attempt.
But, you know, Air Force One has had to make many unscheduled landings and deviations from its course.
There's been people who've rushed the stage.
So there are many other assassination attempts if you want to take a broader look at it.
I'm just like, why are you taking these unnecessary risks?
Every police department now is starting to have drones with thermal cameras attached to them.
Why can't we get something like that scanning his golf course when he wants to go play a game?
It just seems a little bit unnecessary to take some of these risks, but I do admire in a leader someone who's not willing to cower, someone who stands his ground, and someone who puts his fists in the air after getting his ear blown off.
And that's another really odd aspect of all of this.
Now, there are some people that I respect tremendously.
Okay? I've followed their work for years.
And I am a question-everything guy.
But immediately after the first assassination attempt, there were people that felt like that could have been staged.
And that somehow Donald Trump staged this thing.
Now, you even heard it in the mainstreams of the left.
Now, let me say this.
From the moment I watched it, I thought it was real.
However, I always entertain everybody's ideas.
So what I like to do is a little thing called my own research.
And I went out and I just found all the available videos surrounding the event, right?
And the extended ones.
And one of the first things I found was the video of the dead body, which they took out of the rafters, which is the individual who was with his family and got killed.
And in that same moment, you also had the hydraulics get hit.
There was like a crane there and water spewing, you know, a distance from one of the other bullets.
And the crane, again, it's hydraulics, folks.
That's how it works. The water keeps it up.
It comes down. And, you know, that aside from the fact that when you listen to the whole thing, the kill shot from snipers, the only shot, doesn't come until like 5-10 seconds after Trump's on the ground.
So none of that said stage to me.
All of it said real.
There was really no moment whatsoever.
And, you know, I've never been a crisis actor guy.
There are still people that I hear go, oh, how's that ear?
I go, you just don't understand.
What were you expecting? I mean, did you want the other half an inch so a piece of his skull got bashed out the side of his head?
Or maybe he looks up and it goes through his neck.
Like, what are you talking about?
The man was clearly shot.
I mean, no one's that good of an actor.
They literally caught the bullet on a photograph.
Yeah. None of that's enough.
Go ahead.
Well, Jason.
Yeah, Jason, listen, I mean, I agree with you.
And I think that Occam's razor plays a role in this.
But we also know that there are people calling provocateurs or whatever, even in the digital
landscape who like to stir things up.
And so control that position is a real thing.
You get into a hotbed of patriots who are having a calm discussion, a reasonable discussion,
and you throw some crazy off the wall theories in there.
And sure, some of them will bite.
And then after a while, you can step back because you've set a wildfire.
So what we hope to accomplish with The Crucible of Donald Trump, which I will encourage your
audience to check out because it's a totally, I think, one of a kind film.
There's no narration to it.
It is entirely comprised.
It's like a patchwork of news clips, which I understand sounds extremely boring.
I call it a newsical in some sense because it takes you on this roller coaster ride of the past decade of the coup d'etat on the White House.
How did we get here? Who are the major players, both protagonists, antagonists?
Who's for America? Who's against it? And we kind of show you the various attacks.
So the film is broken up by chapters, which are actually just, I don't want to
give too much away, but they're video game levels. And Donald Trump is the
character going through these levels, right? So there's the plandemic.
There's the rigged elections.
There's the crashed economy.
There's the lone gunman, lone in quotation marks.
So there's many different attacks that I think most people don't appreciate that Donald Trump had to endure in his first term, which is why, look, I'm always willing to give the guy a bit of slack.
How would you do, Jason Burmess, if you were put into office today, even with $4 billion in your bank account.
How would I do?
I like to think I'm a savvy guy, but given the most important job in the world, and you're up against an ancient elite blackmail system, which they don't stop, they don't slow down, and they don't pull punches.
They're out for genocide, essentially.
This is a ruthless elite that is global in nature.
So to put one guy in there as a backstop against A prison planet social credit system is truly astonishing that he even survived at all.
Here we are round two, and I'm hoping, fingers crossed, that he's going to get a lot more done this time around, given the groundswell of support that we were talking about a moment ago.
And that's if they can get him in.
And once they get him in, they can swear him in.
Because look, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, they're doing great!
I mean, everybody's talking about not having money in this economy.
Invest in war, folks.
They are doing fantastic.
I promise you.
And look, the bottom line is I don't like what's going on in Israel and Gaza.
I don't like a lot of Don's positions even there.
He's saying he's going to be able to stop this.
I don't like what's going on in Ukraine-Russia.
You know, he's the only one in that debate, not just the woman he's running against, but the moderators that will talk about the reality of nuclear weapons, that will talk about the reality of World War III, etc., So I don't know about you.
I'd like to put that on hold.
Just common sense. But like you said, genocide, I like to call it democide, death by government.
It's multiple governments at this point.
But they want to bring it into a one world government.
Fascinating conversation with Adam Riva.
We're going to take a break.
We're going to move on to a time of deceit.
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This is why so many people can't stand the mainstream media and why there's a hardcore animosity towards the media that is pretty much commensurate or equivalent to We have an army of digital soldiers.
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Outro And we are back at it again.
Adam, that was the trailer for Time of Deceit.
Certainly, we've talked about some deceitful behavior already in this conversation.
But in an overarching manner, one of the big problems for me is even if you get a Donnie T in there and he's able to do some stuff, This thing, this leviathan, some are calling it the blob now, the deep state, the new world order.
Their agenda is pushed forward, right?
Just this week, we had the summit of the future.
Mainstream media doesn't touch it, except for, you know, to whitewash, tell you how great it is really quick after it gets signed up for.
Alternative media... There wasn't even much of a swing and a miss.
You know, not a lot of people talking about it.
Myself, Courtney Turner, Derek Brose went down there, did some on-the-ground work.
But to me, this was an issue even bigger than the pandemic treaty because it encapsulated not only pandemics, but cyber security and cyber attacks, water attacks.
Air, climate change, space, AI, the entire digital arena.
And we just signed her.
And that's in there.
Now, I'd love to see, again, Donnie T come in there and say, you know what?
New York's nice. It's got a great skyline.
Let's keep that skyline, but let's get rid of the UN. Let's send them on their way and let's make this a museum.
You know, I've heard some people say let's convert it into housing for migrants.
No, no, no. I want the museum.
I want people to see how the UN was really erected.
I want them to see the actual roles and mistakes of the UN as a warning against centralized government and why decentralization and a republic, one that is separated, you know, the one we used to have, is probably a lot better of an idea.
Call me kooky. What do you think, Adam?
Yeah, no, I totally agree.
I think sometimes we get so focused on just the progress made of civilization that we don't really stop to reflect on the past.
I consider myself somewhat of an internet historian, a digital archivist, a digital archaeologist in some sense, where we're bringing the past forward and warning the future.
I think that the future of Dauntless is not just going to be documentary work, but I hope to get into more of the fiction And shaping culture, making cool stuff that people love to watch.
I've got a dozen stories in my head.
Just give me a big budget and I'll make it happen.
But that is kind of how we push the needle.
And so preserving not just the history, but most importantly, the lessons learned.
And we're learning quite a few hard lessons right now as a society.
So let's say, you know, first of all, we're not in a perfect world.
We're never going to be in a perfect world.
I'm not daddy dystopia or utopia.
I think there's going to be this constant battle for good and evil.
However, there are varying scales of dystopianism, and it's not just today or, you know, I don't want to even make it U.S.-centric.
We have to realize there's some hard realities about the world that are still going on in 2024, one of which is human slavery.
Outwardly, we still got it.
And then, just as absurd, just as insane, just as arcane, we still have royalty.
And I'm not just talking, you know, European royalty and King Charles, who, I mean, the douche level on that guy is like...
Through the roof, everybody. But you've got the Saudi Arabian royal family as well.
And then you also have it throughout the world.
That's rule by bloodline, okay?
How far have we really gone as a society?
I know everybody wants to look at the scientific achievements and our social achievements, but we haven't gotten rid of two of the largest scourges of human control and regimentation in Historically, as human beings, we haven't even read that.
That conversation's not even on the table, Adam.
Why do you think that is?
Well, I've been trying to put it on the table through everything Dauntless Dialogue does.
I mean, the first presentation I ever put out on YouTube was like a three-hour tour de force of child trafficking in every institution and how widespread it is, how evil and malevolent it is.
But I actually am going to be having on my show this coming Monday J.J. Carroll and Ryan Matta You should actually check out their new film, What is Treason?
And they make the case, just in the first 15 minutes alone.
You don't need to watch the whole two and a half hours.
They make the case in 15 minutes that the Biden-Harris administration has constructed the largest human trafficking, child trafficking operation in human history.
They've already lost...
Over half a million children into the system.
And everyone knows the incident where Joe Biden was at the CFR and he was bragging on camera about the quid pro quo with Don Shanko and Burisma and Hunter Biden and the rest of it.
But people are less familiar, your audience might know about this, the time that The Guatemalan Attorney General was looking into Joe Biden's effectively like child trafficking centers and he went and did the same thing with Antony Blinken.
He went and We're good to go.
This little inconvenient detail that child trafficking is larger than it's ever been in human history.
And so you really have to ask, who are the clientele?
Who has the money, the means, the time, and the connections to kind of engage in that sort of thing on an industrial scale, right?
Because these children are not being used once a day.
They're being used a dozen times a day.
And there's millions of them in bondage.
Without belaboring that point, it's astonishing how terrible it's gotten and we really need to draw attention to it.
You know, God bless people like Tara Rodas and others that have blown the whistle on this system and even tried to bring it into the halls of government, trying to go through the modus operandi, the mechanisms that were supposedly given where we are going to get accountability, due process, etc., However, we haven't had that criminal accountability on a large scale in this country for decades.
I mean, period. Full stop again.
And often when I have people on this show, you know, a lot of conservative guys,
a lot of old school guys, none of them really have a counterpoint
to the fact that Iran-Contra is the last time that our government had any sort of accountability.
Most of those people still got off with slaps on the wrist, period.
And on top of that, the main guy that they put forward as the face of the operation, Oliver North,
We got book deals, talk show host deals.
Basically became a household name and a multi-millionaire.
That's not how you discourage that type of activity.
And they all kind of nod their heads.
Some agree. Some will expand a little bit.
But no one's giving me a solution other than, we've got to lock him up when he gets back in.
Folks, I don't know that a large-scale retribution that is in your mind is even a possibility.
However, we do need criminal accountability, and that's why I'll bring it back to 9-11.
That's how you do it.
If you can go back those 20-25 years...
There's plenty of people still alive that are accountable.
And you need to start picking them off one by one as well as those that are outwardly acting criminally and you can prove it now.
And that's how you bring this country back.
So those are my thoughts.
I'd love to get your take.
And then I'd love for you to close it out and let everybody know how they can see these documentary films and support your work at dauntlessdialogue.com.
Yeah, man. Fantastic. And I will add that the Diddy case is a RICO case, and so there's a lot that could potentially come of that.
I think if you're going to eliminate some kind of deep state apparatus, it probably needs to be done in a RICO fashion where you're pulling up the whole thing, the whole plant roots and all.
And probably do it swiftly.
And I think that'll be facilitated with a mass deportation of illegal immigrants because that will, in turn, help us crack down on cartel influence.
So I think there are mechanisms in place.
It is a solvable situation.
It really comes down to the leadership.
It comes down to the decisions made and what we demand as a population.
You can find all my work at dauntlessdialogue.com.
You've got it right there on screen. We are a streaming service.
We are a for-profit enterprise.
We like to create awesome documentaries and entertainment, a variety of things that people who have our kind of proclivity would enjoy, people who are researchers, people who want to know what's going on, people who don't want some diluted content.
You know, Netflix version of Jimmy Savile or Jeffrey Epstein.
Or the Menendez brothers.
Huh? F you, Netflix.
You damn well know his dad was a serial child rapist.
And you still made that.
Exactly. This isn't Hollyweird.
This is exposing Hollyweird and the surrounding mechanisms of power culturally, politically, and economically.
DauntlessDialogue.com. Adam Riva, thank you so much.
Folks, we've got to take another break.
We're going to come back.
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And we are now joined by retired Col. William Dunth.
And we are now joined by retired Colonel William Dunn.
Thank you so much for joining us.
Now, you are the author of Gunfighters Rule.
We're also going to be talking a little bit of Trump here, but let's get your background because obviously you are a former military guy.
You are an author, etc.
What's your life been like?
Well, hey, thanks very much for having me today.
Yeah, I joined the Marine Corps in 1983.
I was 17 years old, and then pretty much spent the next three decades, about 33 and a half years, supporting the Marine Corps and the nation, and I loved it.
It was great. I've done a whole bunch of different things in the Marine Corps.
One of the greatest things I got to do was command the gunfighters.
The gunfighters is a Cobra Huey squadron.
We deployed to Iraq in 2007 and spent seven months there fighting for the nation.
It was an honor to be the commander of these great Marines and sailors and to take the fight to the enemy.
So let's talk a little bit about this second assassination attempt on Trump.
I would argue, at least in the very beginning, we got a lot more information and answers than the first assassination attempt on Trump.
Obviously, this person was detained.
We got pictures of the supposed weapon.
The camera, etc.
We got some background, despite the fact that social media seemed to scrub everything pretty quickly.
First of all, what is your take on the timeline?
You know, I've heard things like this guy was there for up to 12 hours.
We've now seen this letter out there that was supposedly written.
But it seems like after the fact, after he failed, talking about $150,000...
The individual himself and his history.
You have this weird arrest 20 plus years ago where there was supposedly a shootout with police and they find an explosive in his car.
He gets charged with having a weapon of mass destruction, yet he does no prison time.
And then he leaves his home.
He owns a home in North Carolina and starts living in Hawaii the last several years.
Pretty expensive to live in Hawaii.
And he I don't think you got anything wrong.
The problem is an individual camped out 12 hours where a president...
Former president, possibly future president, is going to be.
And nobody checked that area, nobody screened that area, and nobody cleared that area.
That is absolute negligence in my mind.
The only thing that good came out of that is the Secret Service agent, when he saw the weapon, fired at him.
That was important.
Had he not done that, you know, we may have had a catastrophic result.
What I think also bears on criminality is the fact that they posted that little memoir the guy put out saying that he wanted someone to carry on if he failed his mission.
That should not have been put out.
I think that was done on purpose to try to trigger someone else to go take action.
I was watching on the news this morning.
It looks like an Iranian plot was foiled and another Iranian plot may be in progress right now.
And in that manifesto, it talked about Iran supporting this attack.
So anyone in the administration that put that out, in my mind, would be culpable.
And they did it on purpose, I think.
I don't think they mind if somebody forces Donald Trump out of this election.
Well, I think it might even go beyond that.
I mean, let's look at the facts that we hadn't had a successful shot off against a president or former president for 43 years prior.
And now in quick succession, we have two incidents, one of which not only was he fired upon, but the guy was actually shot.
And the mainstream media has essentially whitewashed that.
The Thomas Crooks thing has fallen off.
out of the media I think that's even more egregious. As you stated the one good thing you can say about the Secret
Service is that they opened fire immediately when seeing the gun barrel.
An obvious correct decision when you look at the incident in Pennsylvania, none of that.
In fact as far as I can tell the only shot the Secret Service took was the kill shot after the fact when this guy
had been incapacitated by then.
It's the one that's five to ten seconds after Trump is on the ground and surrounded by Secret Service.
They had a hearing for that one.
A woman gets to step down, act like she did nothing wrong, and collect her pension for the rest of her life.
This happens next.
Do you foresee a third attempt?
Because I think it's... I mean, you alluded to the fact that you think they're trying to trigger somebody by putting out this kind of pseudo-manifesto that's out there, this letter.
But at the same time, I think you're now in territory where it might not even be a gun.
We could be talking about car bombs, plane crashes, explosives.
There's that mystery incident where people got sick behind him at the Arizona rally.
I think really just about anything could be on the table at this point.
Yeah, I think we are at the greatest threat to our country right now to have one of our
potentially elected officials taken out.
Bye.
.
We spend a lot of effort and time as a nation protecting our elected officials.
And we need to continue to do that.
Imagine a scenario, if this was happening to the other side, what would be taking place in the media?
It would be all over the media.
It would be focused on that.
And I saw a thing today.
You know, I was watching.
I didn't see it live.
I saw it about a minute after the original shooting.
I immediately, I was sitting with my wife and I said, that was a 5-5-6.
I knew, well, I was very certain it was an AR just by the way that he reacted to that.
I've been in those situations before with those rounds and rounds similar to that being very close.
But the way the president reacted, I told her, I said, that was either a 22 or a 223, which is also a 556, assuming it was an AR-15.
That was before we could hear the sound.
And then once we heard the sound, I was positive of it.
The question I would ask, and nobody has asked this, the shooter that killed him, did he see him with the weapon before he fired?
The rules are simple.
If it's a threat, they do not, and this is the rules for any Marine out there, if someone has a weapon and they're pointing that weapon towards you, they don't even have to necessarily point it at you.
If they have a weapon and the rules of engagement permit, then you can engage that target.
Four are... Presidents and our vice presidents and our elected officials, they don't have to pull the trigger.
Just like they did in Florida, that's what should have happened in Pennsylvania.
Now, I don't know if that individual saw them first, but it seems, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but it seems they allowed those rounds to get fired before they took action.
And I'm not convinced they had to fire that last shot.
I mean, it seems to me local law enforcement seems like two volleys.
It seems like the initial shots at Trump, then some kind of return fire.
From what I understand in that congressional report that came out, they say that they had shot him.
He no longer had the gun in his hand.
I'd much rather have somebody in custody so you can actually investigate that person
than caving their skull out five seconds later when they're no longer a threat.
So that's a big problem. This guy, they do have in custody.
Now, we haven't heard anything on his behalf other than this letter. We do know about the
weapon. We do know about the connections to the military overseas, the fact that he had done this
interview with Newsweek two years ago, etc. I know that you're asking the question. This isn't a
guy with any kind of formal training in firearms. In fact, he's an individual that's not supposed
to have a firearm at all.
So let's talk about that aspect of this.
You know, you hear a lot about the Second Amendment and taking weapons away, gun control, getting rid of AR-15s off the street.
The Second Amendment was designed for the right for all Americans to possess weapons, and that shall not be infringed.
If we just followed our laws that we already have and enact them, this guy should have never had a weapon.
It is very irritating to think a guy had an illegal, fully automatic weapon, didn't go to jail, somehow was able to get an SKS. Either he had it before or he purchased it after or he illegally purchased it, but somehow he had it.
He's putting stuff online that should have been picked up by our systems.
And yet he was allowed to go free.
The concern I have is both these idiots that have attacked our president had no training.
Where we get concerned is somebody with training.
And that's why we need to push that protective barrier out to, you know, five, six hundred meters.
The Pennsylvania shooter That was a grace of God miss.
Because anyone that I know that had been in the military with can make that shot without a scope all day long, every day.
And we trained to it.
That individual, thankfully, did not have any training or not enough training in any missed because the president moved his head.
The guy in Florida, very likely, I mean, I have an SKS. It's a very simple weapon.
You aim it. I know he had a scope on his.
You don't even need a scope for that range if he had gotten within a couple hundred meters.
I guess he was between three and five.
500 meters would have been a long shot, and he probably wouldn't have hit him.
300 meters, pretty easily to hit him, even without a scope.
Those weapons are designed to be durable, to fire, to be wet, muddy, rusty, and still fire.
And they're also designed that you don't need any training on them.
They're not sophisticated.
You just picked it up. I took mine out of the box and I was deadly accurate at 100 meters without making one adjustment to the weapon.
That's how simple these guns are.
So if we follow our laws that we have, and when somebody breaks the law with a weapon, you take their weapons away, then it makes the rest of us safe.
But the thought that people will come to your house and take your weapon or mandatory buyback your weapon, that goes against our Constitution, and every American should fight for that, regardless if you're Republican or Democrat or Independent.
You should be fighting for your rights and fighting for the Constitution.
Well, I totally agree with you.
Firstly, I've been politically homeless for two-plus decades.
I, frankly, hate them all.
There is a handful of people out there that are in any semblance of reality.
I've constantly got to now hear one party.
The Democratic Party, at least, used to be free speech anti-war.
They're totally inverted on that in the mainstream at this point.
And the Republican Party is not much better than them.
There's, again, a handful of people out there.
There's the Thomas Massies of the world, the Rand Pauls of the world, and maybe a handful of others.
I mean, you've got, oh man, I can't remember what his name is right now off the bat, but he's the one leading the congressional investigation.
He's being, Ron Johnson, stonewalled.
Then you have DeSantis, imperfect, but he wanted to do a statewide investigation into this Florida incident.
He's being stonewalled, etc., We're in a very, very dangerous place.
If you're getting stonewalled investigating shootings of the ex-president and possible future president, and really, if you had a free and fair election, probably the current president of the United States, we're in a bad spot in this country.
We're going to take a quick break.
We're going to come back. We've got retired Colonel William Dunn with us.
You're not going to want to miss it. Final segment of Making Sense of the Madness after this.
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And, you know, we talked about security.
Shouldn't he go well beyond the Secret Service at this point?
I mean, for me, if I'm Donnie T, I'm hiring two guys for every Secret Service person on detail.
One to literally mirror the position of that Secret Service agent and one to go...
Beyond that and onto these bounds and to sweep these areas that don't seem to be being swept, etc.
I know that he has upped his private security, but how much does he need to do that?
And do you believe that maybe the third, I hope the third time is not the charm, but it goes beyond just a trained individual with a gun and into the arena of a plane crash, of a car bomb, of something at an event, etc.?
Absolutely. Last year, October 23rd, 1983, last year was the 40th anniversary of the Beirut bombing.
We had an event down at Campus U, North Carolina where we had the Commandant of the Marine Corps show up, as well as some other dignitaries.
Prior to that event, The Marine Corps put out security dogs, security forces.
They scanned and patrolled through the forests that were around the event because it was a forested event.
I mean, there's a forest around the event.
They cleared it and then they kept those individuals out smelling for bombs,
those dogs smelling for bombs, weapons, and also kept the presence out so that
any would-be attacker would see this force and hopefully would be, if there
was going to be a would-be attacker, hopefully that would cause them pause
and they wouldn't come in.
You have to harden the place.
That's what I would recommend, not only to Donald Trump, but I would also
recommend this to Kamala Harris, right? Because when we are so divided, what
I'm concerned about is somebody else fanatical saying, oh, you're going to
shoot at my guy, I'm going to shoot at your guy.
And that terrifies me too, because we don't want that.
We want our elections solved legally and appropriately at the ballot box.
You know, as a Marine, as any service member, when you raise your hand and take the oath, you take an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States.
You do not take an oath to a president.
You don't take an oath to the Secretary of the Army, the Commandant of the Marine Corps.
You take an oath to the Constitution.
And I think a lot of our elected officials have forgotten that.
They're taking an oath to a party, not to the Constitution.
And some of the things that I'm seeing, you know, it's all open source, right?
And a lot of it I see off Fox News.
But some of that is just showing such a divided country.
And I've seen people that are going to vote one way because they believe that if the person wins are so stupid that no one will let them do their programs such as taxing unearned gains.
I had a friend of mine said, well, I'm voting for Kamala Harris.
She's so stupid, there's no way they're going to let her do her policy, so I'm just going to vote for her because I hate Donald Trump.
And I looked at him and I said, you're an idiot.
Well, this is my problem.
I don't think Kamala Harris is an ideologue at all.
Obviously, she's not running anything at this point.
I don't think she's going to be running anything if she gets put in there.
Joe Biden is clearly the largest outward puppet I'm 45 years old.
I mean, the guy had dementia in the primaries.
Now, I would argue, obviously, a lot of presidents, it's really the administration behind them.
Look at George W. Bush, for instance.
I would argue that, look, he wasn't running much. He could still speak. He'd still do these policy
meetings, but he had vipers behind him, people that were very capable. Donald Rumsfeld,
people like Wolfowitz, Karl Rove, obviously Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice. I go down the line.
All those people, whether you like them or not, they were extremely competent.
I look at this administration, not so much. Blinken, he's got those eyes. I mean,
he's definitely in charge of a lot. I look at somebody like John Kerry, who they brought in,
clearly running more foreign policy than either Kamala Harris or Joe Biden for that administration.
And Vivek Ramaswamy did a video on this a couple of days ago. He goes, look,
the thing that scares me most about her is that she's not an ideologue.
Like Bernie Sanders, that's an ideologue.
I can disagree with his policies, but he believes what he says.
This woman is going to say or do whatever she is told.
She is extremely malleable.
The only thing she knows how to do is really repeat talking points.
I think that's why she was more effective at the debate than people thought she would be.
Clearly it looks like she had the questions to answer and clearly it sounds like a lot of those things were rehearsed because whenever you put her on the spot in a live interaction she does not fare anywhere near as well.
So what does happen if we don't have a free and fair election?
Because you know you also alluded to the fact you don't want to see anybody get shot.
Neither do I. If we have anything like that on any level all you have is more of an excuse for authoritarianism possible martial law And then pushing us further away from that constitutional republic, of which I don't know how much of accountability we've had on an executive level for some time.
I mean, to me, Iran-Contra is really the last time we saw any of it.
Lots of slaps on the wrist.
The face of that Ali North.
He gets book deals and TV shows and becomes a millionaire.
Not really how to discourage that type of behavior.
You know what I mean? So, we've got a couple minutes left.
Again, I know I go on these rants, but...
What do we do if we get this guy in?
If he is able to get past November, sworn in in January, how do you fast track bringing back the Constitutional Republic?
Well, the first thing we have to do is protect him.
Period. And if he doesn't win and Harris wins, she needs to be protected too.
That's the bottom line. We don't want that to happen in our country.
But what we have to do is we have to focus on the Constitution.
We cannot have open borders.
How many terrorists have come in this country?
I believe we will have a terrorist attack on our country somewhere right before or right after the election.
I hope not, but I'm terrified of it.
We have had so many people come in.
Look what Israel just did with The supply chain.
Now imagine somebody comes into our country that has small weapons, small bombs, walks into a mall, walks into a football game, a high school football game where there's low security and kills people.
I'm terrified that's going to happen to our country.
But we have got to get back to the normalcy of when one side wins, everybody is supposed to support them.
We can't do that now.
I literally have no idea who our president is right now.
Who is running our country?
Brother, you're not the only one.
We have run out of time.
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Thank you so much, and thank you guys for watching this show.
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