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Sept. 24, 2024 - Info Warrior - Jason Bermas

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	Thank you.
	We've got a great show lined up for you today.
	We have David Rodgers Webb, the author of The Great Taking.
	Then we've got Bem Miller.
	He's going to be talking about Bundy versus the Deep State.
	You're not going to want to miss it.
	buckle up and get ready to make sense of the madness.
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	America is in trouble.
	you The Federal Reserve can be summarized in three words.
	It's a scam.
	I never realized it was the most profoundly corrupt institution in the world pretending to be honorable.
	The custodians are empowered to borrow the securities out of the pool without any limit at all.
	And it's a partnership between the bankers and the politicians And they create money for all the citizens of that country.
	The secured creditors have absolute assurance that they will keep the client collateral in the event of insolvency.
	And this is the shocker.
	Not your insolvency, but insolvency of the people that secretly used your securities as collateral.
	So in a sense, what they're doing is converting your property, your assets, into money.
	They don't need your money.
	They can create unlimited money.
	It is about subjugation of people.
	Who was it Kissinger said a long time ago?
	If you want to control people, you control food.
	If you want to control nations, you control oil.
	If you want to control the world, you control money.
	And I think that's the plan.
	And now, right now, it seems like they're using the climate change It's the mechanism to be able to step in and take control.
	So I've written this book, The Great Taking, to put on the table a very sophisticated structure designed to take essentially all financial collateral globally.
	Everything you want to do in life gets translated at some point into a monetary value.
	So if what you're using as a monetary value is not your property, You have none.
	You have nothing.
	You are a slave.
	We're in a hybrid war that is open-ended.
	The average person is doomed.
	They have to wake up.
	They have to learn a little bit about what the real world is about.
	They have to stop buying into the myth.
	And we are back.
	We are now joined by David Rogers-Webb.
	David, thank you so much for joining us.
	Now, this book has also been made into a documentary film.
	We just saw the trailer.
	Tell us about the book, though.
	Why did you write it?
	And what is so bad about central bankers?
	Because I've always grown up to believe that they're extremely benevolent and they have the general interest of the public at heart.
	Well, I'm sorry to disabuse you of that.
	Well, I don't know.
	You asked me a number of things there.
	I would say that I wrote this because I knew no one else was going to.
	So it became my reason to live, so to speak, was to write this.
	But it comes out of really a lifetime of work to understand what is destroying us.
	What is destroying the economy?
	What's destroying our cities?
	What's destroying our society?
	And Jason, I have to tell you, it is the central bankers that are behind these myriad These myriad threats against us and I was really becoming engaged in this oddly enough when I was 12 years old because I grew up in Cleveland and I was in a family of engineers and maybe some people would know that Cleveland was not going so well in the late 1960s and early 1970s.
	It was a lot like being in the Great Depression.
	It was being in a war zone at times.
	And so I probably would have been a physician, which was one side of my family, or an engineer.
	But I decided I needed to understand business because we were being damaged.
	I need to understand what was happening.
	So I ended up going, eventually finding my way onto Wall Street and working in investment banking and private equity and eventually running hedge funds.
	So I've gone deeply into this and worked at a high level.
	And what the book is about is a deliberate Very deliberate and it's something, it's an intelligent scheme that has been put in place over more than 50 years to change ownership rights to securities.
	Now, by securities, we're talking about stocks and bonds, basically all registered securities.
	So government bonds, bonds of companies, equities, and this would be the assets that are held perhaps in an individual's investment account, but also in all of the biggest investment funds, insurance companies, and this is global.
	We used to have absolute certainty of ownership and control of these securities with Uh, the public with individuals with these funds, but that legal certainty to the collateral has now been subverted and it is really, uh, never controlled by the public at this point.
	It is controlled elsewhere within the financial system and used as collateral without restriction free of payment.
	And this is what has, uh, Provided the underpinning under the growth of the derivatives complex, the derivatives bubble, that is the use of the public's assets as collateral.
	So there's a lot there.
	I want to go back to you working on Wall Street for a moment and your time period there.
	I mean, first of all, you obviously probably get into it for financial stability.
	Nobody goes there to be poor.
	So you are in the belly of the beast, if you will.
	How long do you spend there?
	What are some of the firms that are household names that you work with?
	And then I would assume if you end up writing a book about this in a negative sense, there's kind of a mea culpa here.
	where you realize at some point maybe morally this isn't for you or maybe not.
	You tell me, for me, I get a lot of investors on the show and people who own this network
	and they can invest in a company like Raytheon or Lockheed Martin.
	I don't think I could do that.
	You tell me about that time period and what moves you away from it.
	I would say that I am not about money.
	I've never been about money.
	Oddly enough, that's what I was working with.
	But I describe in the in the prologue to the book, my my grandmother, my grandparents, my medical medical grandparents, they were in the first medical unit into World War One, which was so early.
	It was before the US had entered the war.
	So this was My grandmother, who was in the house when I was a little boy.
	So they were marked by this experience.
	They went through, they were in a medical facility with 3,000 beds, which sounds big, but if you know the scale of these battles in World War I, they had more casualties than that every day.
	They were just overwhelmed with, you know, the wounded and the dying.
	And my grandmother, she sat by my bedside every night and somehow she imparted to me that your work is about more than making money.
	It's about more than just taking care of yourself.
	Anybody, basically I grew up thinking Anybody can make money.
	It should just fall out of what you're doing.
	Your life and your work should be about something more than that.
	And so I went into Wall Street to understand what was happening.
	And I've always been that sort of a person that I pursue things because I need to know.
	Um, and I found it is, it is odd, I think, for someone to do whatever will pay them the most money or more money to direct their lives that way.
	Um, so, um, I, I, but I found for me, it was an advantage because I would, I would develop understandings of things that other people did not have.
	Okay, so then let's get into the book.
	What did you learn?
	Where does this book kind of start?
	We're talking about central banking because it does have a long and storied past.
	I suppose you could go all the way back to the money changers.
	You could certainly get into the World Wars when a lot of these banks obviously gain a lot of their power.
	You get into the consolidation after World War II.
	Yes.
	But the thing to know about what I'm revealing in the book here, what I'm talking about, is this taking of the right to property, the use of it as collateral, the certainty of legal control of it, is something that is absolutely knowable.
	It is not conjecture.
	It is entirely supported and irrefutably supported by primary source documents.
	So we're in a time where it's difficult to know anything with certainty.
	We're being overwhelmed with often conflicting, unpleasant, Uh, stuff in the media constantly.
	So the people just shut down and that's by design.
	So it is, it is a gift to us to have something that you can actually know with certainty that is this important globally.
	And as I've said, it's something that can unite all of us because everyone will be injured by this.
	All people and all the way to the top of the system, societally and globally, and at the same time.
	So it's in a collapse, in another global collapse.
	So it is something that will overcome divide and rule.
	And it is rightly focused at the power of the banking cartel that controls the central banks.
	All of the threats against us, all the wars, are funded somehow.
	It's actually not coming from your tax dollars.
	It's coming from the power to create money and debt out of nothing.
	So it is rightly focused.
	If we try to go after every individual threat against us, whether it's, you know, putting stuff in our food supply or in the air or Or what's been done to around our health and what's being put into our bodies.
	You will never get there fighting any of these things individually.
	We have to focus on, as I say, the one ring that binds them all, which is the money behind all of this.
	And so how do we know this?
	The control of the property has been subverted in this way.
	Well, oddly enough, they tell us... We'll get to that.
	We've got to take a quick break.
	When we come back, let's talk about this knowledge.
	Because from what I'm hearing, it's basically this mantra of you will own nothing and you'll be happy about it.
	You know, the consolidation of this power.
	And, you know, you're bringing up central banks.
	I wonder when you look at something like the International Monetary Fund, That was an alarming point.
	That's been a decade plus.
	SDRs, special drawing rights for years, which are basically zeros and ones and again backed by nothing.
	That was an alarming point. That's been a decade plus.
	They've moved into the blockchain and working with the World Economic Forum at refugee camps for years now.
	I don't know if you've seen that, but they have blockchain people.
	You know, I foresee that as the future if these people get their way.
	So I want to talk to you about what they're doing, how they have this control, and how we've been tricked into a system where it's not backed by anything and they can make this currency up out of nothing.
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	All right, let's talk about it.
	I cut you off there.
	What is the system we are under right now?
	Because I think a lot of people have realized the Federal Reserve is not federal, etc.
	It's not really a government agency.
	It's pseudo.
	It's not backed by anything.
	You know, you go back to Nixon selling off Well, this is totalitarianism.
	goes well beyond that. But what are the systems that are in place? And you know,
	a lot of people talk about it as a debt bubble that will burst and collapse,
	but I would say these institutions are going nowhere and out of a collapse like
	that, they'll probably just consolidate more power.
	Well, this is, um, totalitarianism.
	That's it's a kind of insane logic that has been pursued to a point of,
	of injuring everyone everywhere and at the same time.
	And we're there and the point in the great taking.
	What I mean is it's not just about your IRA.
	It's everything.
	It is about subjugation.
	It's about taking your ability to support a family It's about forcing you into, as you're saying, Jason, forcing you into a box where the only thing you can do is accept their new paradigm, their solution, which is something like central bank digital currency, where you have a complete shutdown of the financial system.
	You have no access to anything.
	And the only thing you can do is download an app on your phone and start using their digital currency so that you can buy milk.
	And then you're trapped.
	So this is something I expose in the book.
	People would think, well, that's insane.
	Nothing like that would happen.
	And I expose that that is exactly what happened in 1933.
	This is exactly what happened with the creation of the Federal Reserve.
	Can I expand on that a little bit?
	Okay, so Ed Griffin, who is now a friend and a great man, G. Edward Griffin,
	who wrote Creature from Jekyll Island.
	One of my favorites in my documentary films, known G. Edward Griffin, God, almost 20 years at this point.
	Please continue.
	Yeah.
	So he, he, he has studied all the memoirs of the people that were involved in the meeting that planned the Federal Reserve and their, on Jekyll Island, and this was in 1910.
	This was following a financial collapse panic in 1907 that created the kind of emergency for creating the Federal Reserve.
	But their objective, the reason they were working at this was that the financial system in the U.S.
	was doing just fine.
	It was doing so well that it had no need of the banking cartel, the European banking cartel.
	So there were the tremendous growth in banking.
	This was the free banking period where banks could succeed and go out of business.
	And that was fine.
	You know, individual banks could fail, but it wasn't a monolith.
	You know, you had autonomy.
	So the growth in banking was in banks outside their control, mainly in the West and the South.
	And also U.S.
	industry was self-financing because the cash flows were so strong.
	So what did they do?
	They created the panic in 1907, which J.P.
	Morgan was involved in, which J.P.
	Morgan was Rothschild front bank.
	Um, and they know that because when he died, there was not much there in the way of assets.
	So he was fronting for all of this in the, in the U S then, um, the, the objective of the cartel was to, um, put their competitors out of business and to consolidate their control over the system.
	Now, the, the, so the federal reserve act was voted into existence.
	The day before Christmas Eve in 1913, World War One started seven months later, which then it was perpetuated for years, incredible carnage, but the debt levels of all countries went up massively.
	And, you know, the Federal Reserve, the central banks are, as you alluded to earlier, they are born in warfare.
	They are joined at the hip with warfare.
	Because now all that debt that was created, they created the money to fund that debt out of thin air.
	And the treasury securities they bought from the treasury, that they had created the money out of nothing to buy the treasury securities, then became the capital base of the banking cabal.
	Completely created out of nothing, out of thin air.
	Now the public is convenient to create an income tax at that time.
	Now the public is working to pay the interest on the debts that they have created out of thin air through a global war.
	So that's how it begins.
	Then you have a boom in the 1920s, and with the bust in the 30s.
	They then, in 1933, closed the banks, all the banks in the country, over a weekend.
	And I know from my own family, I always talked with people that had gone through the Depression, understand what happened.
	And my aunt, I, she said, I asked her, what was it like?
	What happened?
	And she said, well, suddenly no one had any money.
	And even wealthy families didn't have any money and they couldn't afford to send their children back to school.
	And I had difficulty wrapping my brain around that.
	How could that happen?
	But it happened because when all the banks were closed, 9,000 banks never reopened.
	The only banks that reopened were in the Federal Reserve System.
	And back then, by the way, 9,000 banks wouldn't even sound like that much today.
	But obviously, you know, 85, 90 years ago, that was a big deal.
	Well, it's still a big number.
	Well, it would, but I mean, we're seeing what I think we've had at least at least several hundred, if not a thousand banks closed this year.
	And we've had this trickle effect for the last several years, uh, where it doesn't seem as alarming.
	Don't get me wrong.
	It's on my radar.
	Uh, but at the same time, it was, it was done comprehensively over a weekend.
	So people lost all their money in, in the banks.
	But their debts were not expunged.
	Their debts were not cancelled.
	Their debts were consolidated into the Federal Reserve System and enforced.
	So this is how even wealthy people were crushed.
	Because they lost their liquid funds, but their debts were not cancelled.
	And then you had I went down to the Cleveland Public Library when I was beginning to study this.
	And if you go through the dusty chart books, you see that every commodity bottomed at a hard price low of the prior 60 years.
	So they get to buy everything up for pennies on the dollar on top of it.
	Well, there's that, but mainly people cannot sell things to pay off their debts.
	Because the value of everything falls, but their debts don't fall in value.
	So deflation puts the entire society into a debt trap.
	Now, on top of that, in Cleveland, the Federal Reserve Bank building was completed in 1923.
	They closed all the banks 10 years later, like clockwork, 10-year plan.
	So the bank vault built in 1923, it is still the biggest bank vault in the world, with the biggest door on a bank vault in the world.
	Why did they need a bank vault that big?
	Well, in 1933, they made it illegal for the public to hold gold.
	Gold.
	And they confiscated that gold.
	Listen, we have run out of time, unfortunately.
	Hey, that's a good point to leave it.
	Folks, you want to know more?
	We got a book.
	We got a documentary film.
	David, let everybody know where they can check this out and find out more.
	Because it seems like this is, you know, a good companion piece to something like The Creature from Jekyll Island.
	And by the way, That thing is like this.
	That's a phone book, folks.
	Some people can't get through it.
	Go ahead, David.
	Well, this book, go to thegreattaking.com, and there's a free PDF download of the book.
	And it's very readable.
	The core of the book is 100 pages, so anybody can read it in two or three hours.
	Um, and then there are links to the documentary, but you can find that on YouTube or rumble.
	All right, David, thank you so much for joining us folks.
	We're going to take a break.
	We're going to come back.
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	We get the news.
	Mike Little is in the hospital.
	He's dying.
	What do you mean Mike Little is dying?
	We think he got poisoned.
	His whole body's swollen.
	Arms swollen.
	He's having a hard time breathing.
	Incidentally, Mike Little is the guy that was about to drop a lawsuit against what some would call deep state elements within our government.
	A lawsuit that exposes the entirety of Las Vegas was built on Friday.
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	A documentary series where every episode we capture a story about the forces of tyranny declaring war on we the people.
	And we show what these civilians did in fighting this tyranny back.
	In this episode, Bundy vs. Deep State.
	A confrontation in Nevada this morning threatens to become a modern-day range war.
	The government is taking away a rancher's herd and tensions are running quite high.
	Terry Okita is in Bunkerville, Nevada.
	That's about 90... 80 miles, rather, northeast of Las Vegas.
	The Bundys made worldwide news after the U.S.
	government and multiple U.S.
	agencies descended upon their ranch in 2014, demanding that they get off the land which they claimed was owned by the U.S.
	government.
	BLM joined forces with four other federal agencies To enforce their unlawful trespass and destroy our ranch.
	They set up a massive military-like compound on the range.
	With 200 hired guns, mercenaries, they surrounded our ranch and put it under siege.
	They began to brutally round up our cattle with helicopters, running them to death, shooting them from the air, and leaving the newborn cows out on the range to thirst to death or to be eaten by coyotes.
	The dead cattle were dumped into mass graves dug by federal backbones.
	If you listen to the mainstream news media, they represent the Bundys as deadbeat ranchers, tax evaders, domestic terrorists.
	A law-breaking rancher named Clavin Bundy, and it has literally put the Bureau of Land Management in the crosshairs of sniper rifles.
	They had snipers out at Bunkerville pointing sniper rifles at these people, and then when they got called on it, they said, oh, we don't have any snipers.
	We have marksmen.
	Isn't it like saying, she's not a prostitute, she's just a woman of negotiable affection?
	There's been a confrontation out there.
	A rancher, Cliven Bundy is his name.
	Listen to Harry Reid characterizing what he thinks of those people yesterday.
	These people are nothing more than domestic terrorists.
	Why do you think that calf is dead?
	Is that calf dead because somebody killed it?
	Let me finish the question.
	Is that calf dead because somebody killed it or is it dead because of your reluctance to follow through with the laws that every other rancher in your state complies with?
	The Bundy Ranch incident happened in 2014, way before the 2020 election, way before COVID-19, way before January 6, the lawfare against Trump and the border invasion.
	So when I was drafting the complaint, it became obvious to me that the Bundys were like the precursor of the Donald Trump exercise.
	And all the techniques and tactics that the defendants used with the Bundys showed up in January 6th.
	The same modus operandi.
	placing human resources, provocators, instigators, needing to create a conflict.
	But in fact, it's like the Bundays and the outcome of the Bundays case.
	It was the government that went in to instigate conflict.
	When you look at the picture of where we are today with government tyranny in America and around the world,
	The Bundy Ranch incident was the tip of the spear in the fight for our freedoms.
	A war that has been quietly raging for decades.
	Just 30 years ago, there were 53 ranchers in this region.
	Today, there is just one left.
	The Bundys.
	Through policies that have resulted in the extermination of ranchers in this region, the U.S.
	government and its multiple agencies have successfully brought the Nevada rancher to the cusp of extinction.
	This is a very simple case.
	It's about a man and a family who ranched the land.
	The family's been ranching it for 150 years.
	The federal government comes in, they claim a right to manage that land, and the way they're managing it would have driven him out of business.
	And we are back.
	We are joined by the filmmaker behind Bundy vs. the Deep State, Vem Miller.
	He is from the America Happens Network.
	My friend, watch this thing.
	First of all, very powerful, but at the same time, very upsetting and sad at the end, right?
	You know, you have this arc, and I was very familiar with the Bundy story.
	I didn't realize that they had actually been imprisoned for two plus years.
	Eventually, mistrial, really exonerated.
	But there's a lot more to the story, and that part of the story has to do with a guy named Mike Little.
	So why don't you tell us about Mike Little and how he gets involved with this Bundy story?
	Yeah, sure.
	Thanks for having me on your show, Jason.
	I really appreciate it.
	So, kind of backtracking a little bit with the Bundy's, I think one of the issues with the Bundy story is that a lot of people don't know what happened with the Bundy's, right?
	They're not aware.
	They think the Bundy's were able to move the federal government off their land in 2014 and that was the end of the story, which it wasn't.
	What happened after that is the government kept spending a lot of money every year.
	Some people say upwards of $100 million per year in persecuting the Bundys.
	These are just ranchers that are not rich ranchers.
	They are basically living off the land.
	And now they have to deal with these intense legal battles.
	So what you see here is a perfect example of the process is the punishment.
	And so while this is going on, while they are essentially torturing the Bundy family, really separating the Bundy
	family, putting the Bundy sons in jail for literally two years, this gentleman named Mike Little
	starts hearing the news about what is happening He's been in Nevada pretty much his entire life.
	He's actually somebody that is a renaissance man.
	This is a gentleman that was coming up with renewable energy products back when the government would persecute you because they didn't want your traditional energy products Being overshadowed with these new energy products and I'm talking about he showed me at one point a little cube about that big that he told me has enough energy to power machinery for days, right?
	And the kind of things that the government doesn't want you to have because they're beholden to the energy companies.
	They don't want these alternative sources of energy.
	So anybody that says Mike Little is this right-wing conspiracy theory guy, no.
	If you actually look at Mike Little's history, the guy actually very much operated like a
	Democrat and a leftist for many years with these renewable energy projects, right?
	But even in that situation where he was trying to help the community, he was persecuted by
	the government because the government, they don't want these renewable energy products.
	And so there was a lot of legal shenanigans that happened.
	There was a lot of like, a lot of persecution under the law, their law, right?
	And so that's how Mike Little really came to be is this almost like a rebel against
	the system.
	And so then he starts seeing what's happening with the Bundy family being put in jail.
	This is around 2016-2017.
	He starts to do some research and discovers that this land that the federal government is saying that they own, and hence they're persecuting the Bundys because they're saying, hey, you guys are on our land.
	You need to get off our land.
	Turns out that they don't even own the land, right?
	So now let's talk about the implications of this finding, okay?
	Now, if you look at Clark County, Nevada, there it's Literally, I'd say the most expensive land in the United States because of the outrageous amounts of hotels, casinos, all that stuff that's been placed there, right?
	Now, imagine all that stuff was sold by the federal government unlawfully.
	Could you imagine the billions and trillions of dollars worth of damages, right?
	Not only is it billions or trillions of dollars worth of damage to the federal government, this finding that Mike Little had, it takes away the federal government's power.
	Because for anybody that watches these documentaries, the way the federal government or corrupt politicians within the federal government have been really stealing from the people, stealing from the states is because of this fraud of supposedly the federal government owning State land, right?
	So what you see over here is such a damaging revelation by Mike Little, like literally uncovers, I'd say 80% of the fraud that currently exists within our federal government.
	And then lo and behold, just as Mike Little is about to file this case, and I'm talking about two, three days before he falls deathly ill.
	And within six weeks, he melts away and dies within six weeks.
	and they don't even know his diagnosis.
	So for anybody out there, definitely check out America happens dot com.
	This is a document that's at the top of the page.
	It's really hard for me to explain the whole thing, because this is like jam packed 40 minutes of, I think,
	content that we haven't seen before in terms of somebody literally
	dying in front of us and the cause that he dies for.
	So I recommend everybody checks it out whenever you have a second.
	And the thing is, when you look at this guy and you go over in the film,
	this is an athlete.
	This is somebody, you know, who was in really good shape for being an older gentleman throughout this entire
	documentary.
	You show a rather lively exchange between him and an NPR journalist at one point in the film as well.
	And to see him just totally and completely degrade into nothing and die in fashion, and really you even get the doctors on camera admitting that they don't have a diagnosis and obviously you posit the possibility of him being poisoned and ask about testing for radiation of which he admits ignorance and says that you know he doesn't even know where they would do the testing for that so that's never done and then you know I don't want to give a spoiler here but on top of the COVID diagnosis even at this point it really
	Protocols haven't changed, folks.
	You know, we're still under the COVID-1984 nightmare.
	That's the last thing you want to be in a hospital for because they still have, you know, every incentive to put you on a ventilator and not give you the proper treatment.
	I mean, this occurrence that happened in terms of us trying to save Mike Little's life, right, was very much a snapshot of how, I think, polarized we are.
	We're living in two separate realities, okay?
	In the documentary, you have me, Mike Little, actually, and this gentleman named Ross, Fighting with the hospital, trying to make sure that they don't go down the traditional route, right?
	Why were we so concerned about that?
	Because on the America Happens Network, I've done 250 interviews on just the Blood Money podcast alone.
	Out of those 250 interviews, at least 30 to 40 of them are either with frontline doctors or whistleblowers in terms of the medical field, right?
	We've done a lot of interviews that talk about the hospital killing field.
	What the hospital killing fields are is you show up at the hospital with something wrong with you and then the protocols ultimately kill you, like putting you on a ventilator.
	So the story about people being put on ventilators and then perishing within days was one that I'd heard over and over again from attorneys like Thomas Renz, who I've interviewed at least five or six times.
	Dr. Peter McCullough, people like Karen Kingston.
	I mean, we've pretty much interviewed everybody in the freedom world in terms of the medical freedom world, right?
	And what we kept constantly hearing is that ventilators kill.
	And then they put Mike Little on these ventilators.
	And Ross and I are sitting there and Mike Little in the documentary you hear gives rights for
	Ross to be involved in his medical decisions But then they boot us out and we're literally seeing I mean
	these are text message I'm like you are effing going to kill Mike Little if you
	allow this protocol That I know doctors that we could save Mike Little or at
	least not go down the road, which we know 99.9 out of a hundred leads to death
	But that's the road that they went down.
	And what you see in this is this extremely polarized world.
	Like we live in two separate realities.
	And it's very clear what's going on there.
	And I guess the moral of this story is all these blind people need to come to our reality because our reality is the real reality.
	Like we knew Mike Little was going to be killed in the hospital.
	We knew this was part of the hospital killing fields.
	I mean, you don't predict this stuff before a guy dies, unless you know what you're talking about.
	And I guess that's what you see in this documentary, that they did the worst decisions on Mike Little.
	They took these leftist concepts, like literally CNN style ideas
	that we know leads to death and destruction.
	And that was how Mike Little perished, unfortunately.
	We're gonna take a quick break.
	This is labeled as Part 1.
	I want to talk about what you got in store for us for Part 2.
	Everybody can go check this out on Rumble.
	It's been out over a week now.
	AmericaHappens.com is where you can also see it.
	We're going to be back with more Making Sense of the Madness after this.
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	And we are back.
	We are with Vem Miller.
	Now, as I said, I watched this thing.
	Very powerful, 40 minutes, like you said, very jam-packed with information.
	There were certainly certain things I had no idea about.
	You get into the fake media group, Longbow, FBI.
	This is well worth the watch, but it's just part one and by the way You know you bring this all the way up until I think about August of this year, so this is very fresh material You're working on the fly.
	I would imagine the pedal to the metal on the next one Where are you going with it, and what's the timeline on it?
	You know, really, we're just going to document what happens from this point forward.
	So the lawsuit was actually filed, even though Mike Little died.
	And before he could file the lawsuit, what a lot of people didn't know is that he actually had a writing partner.
	And there's a pretty deep bullpen, I would say, in terms of people involved in that.
	So those individuals are now stepping forward.
	They're going to take over the lawsuit.
	Now, with these lawsuits, you know how it is.
	I mean, it could take years for it to come to court.
	The point is to really cover all that.
	The point is to expose what is happening there with the lawsuit.
	I mean, I know there's going to be shenanigans.
	Our prediction is that this lawsuit goes into the lower courts and they'll probably try to dismiss it for standing or whatever nonsense.
	And then it would have to then go to the Supreme Court.
	Our vision is that this really goes to the Supreme Court and that's where it's properly adjudicated upon.
	Because the lower courts, we believe, are going to try to punt it because the problem is too big.
	I mean, imagine being the judge that says that, hey, federal government, you just lost trillions of dollars and maybe your Federal Reserve might collapse because you have this huge fraud of 20% of Nevada, which includes Clark County, which includes all the hotels, which means all those hotel owners, the landowners, the house owners, they're a part of long arm fraud, which now means that the federal government, a.k.a.
	Federal Reserve, Oh, these ungodly amounts of money.
	So that's what we're going to cover.
	We're going to go for the long haul and see what happens and really show what's going on, even if it goes bad and they're going to do corrupt stuff like, you know, with these election lawsuits where they say there's no legal standing, which is just crazy, by the way, if you ran for office and you have no legal standing, but that's kind of stuff they do to punt things.
	We're expecting all of it.
	And the reason why this is different is because this is kind of like a two pronged battle, right?
	Usually you file a lawsuit and you hope they do the right thing.
	And a lot of times they don't do the right thing, and then you have all these leftists saying, oh, you lost your lawsuit when your lawsuit wasn't even admitted into court, right?
	With this story, with this approach, with the documentary approach, we actually tell that story.
	So if they bounce our lawsuit because of some BS reasons, well, that's part two.
	And that is now a part of the story.
	And you see how they're lying.
	You see how they're cheating.
	And that ultimately informs the people.
	This situation is a little bit different than knocking on doors and saying, hey, help us sign this petition because we just need your help because there's a lot of corrupt stuff happening.
	The people of Nevada actually have skin in the game, right?
	So if you're a landowner, let's say you have a $500,000 property and you owe a $300,000 mortgage.
	And that is a part of the long-arm fraud.
	Well, guess what?
	You no longer owe $300,000, right?
	So, your mortgage is going to wipe.
	You own all the land.
	You owe no property taxes because they can't even property tax you because they don't even have the right title to the land.
	So, guess what?
	Overnight, most people that have land or mortgages in Nevada become millionaires.
	Right.
	And whenever I mention that, some people say, well, that is kind of like a financial incentive.
	You're really, you know, you're kind of giving people, you're dangling a carrot and stuff.
	Unfortunately, like the human spirit is one where if you have money at stake, people are going to be a lot more active.
	That's why we're really excited about this, because we know people are going to step forward because of their own Selfishness, I hate to say, but it's ultimately good for the rest of the country because this potentially stops the fraud of the federal government, returns power back to the states, which by the way, government dissent is talking about Florida taking over the investigation of Trump's assassination attempt.
	That's the kind of thing that needs to happen.
	States need to take their power back because this federal government's wholly corrupt.
	Anybody who watches this documentary will see how the mechanisms of the corruption work.
	And the only way to stop that is to literally stop it, you know, and return power to the states and the people.
	So when you're talking about time periods, I got to be honest, I think we're talking half a decade minimum.
	Maybe into 10 years with this type of litigation.
	You mentioned the punting and the no standing and the way really the media also works in this.
	You highlight that in the first part of the film and the way that not only NPR position their pieces, but you've got the infamous Chris Cuomo,
	long before the COVID-1984 days, even before the Trump derangement syndrome days,
	really showing his true colors.
	No, he's on the comeback.
	He works for Dan Abrams now, Vam.
	Everything's okay.
	His brother's great too, right?
	He's a before con, everything's fine.
	So I would say that, number one, I just got to be honest, I don't like to sound blackpilled
	on these things, but a win would be more than a miracle, especially in today's corrupt system.
	But at the same time, I'm not against trying.
	When we see these things, I don't know if you've caught Thomas Massey recently talking about the SAVE Act and the political theater.
	but I think that he encapsulated it the best. And for those that haven't seen that clip,
	I'm going to be going over it on another show with Zach Payne.
	But he breaks down, look, this all sounds good. And yeah, we're going to vote
	on this and I'm going to make every vote a Democrat vote that they want illegals to vote
	in this election.
	He goes, but at the end of the day, we know it's going nowhere. It's going to be stripped
	out of the bill. We should have had 12 bills before this for the budget instead of this
	ominous bill that nobody reads, that everybody compromises on and everybody postures on.
	And that's one of the reasons I like Massey because he gives a refreshing reality take,
	but there really are only a handful of those politicians that even dare speak out against
	this system.
	And you just mentioned a second assassination attempt on Trump.
	Again, let's talk about the media.
	First news story out there, shots fired outside of...
	Outside of a golf course and altercation.
	Okay.
	Then all of a sudden, you know, Trump whisked away in possible, uh, you know, uh, shots outside again, still not, we're not an assassination attempt.
	It took like three revisions of the story before we even got anywhere close to the truth.
	And who knows how close we are at this point.
	I think we're going to have a third assassination attempt, uh, whether it's before the election or after.
	I don't know that it's going to not be successful.
	We're all dancing around this like, oh it's Patty and you've got the other crew out there that think everything's a joke and everything's fake.
	Hey guys, they tried to kill him on TV.
	That didn't work.
	Now they'll settle for just killing him.
	They just tried to do that.
	Now we're in plane crash territory.
	Now we're in car bomb territory.
	Now we're in all of a sudden his daughter's plane crashes territory.
	We're in a really weird place, Vem.
	Yeah, it's a really ugly place, and I don't see this going anywhere good in the near future.
	I think it's going to be absolute chaos.
	I think they're going to try to do everything evil and sinister.
	And again, you know, I don't want to keep pushing the documentary, but you learn in this documentary why this is happening.
	It's all because of fraud.
	It's all about them enriching themselves.
	It's all about them robbing we, the people.
	Now, we think these multi-pronged approaches, you know, we have Donald Trump out there doing
	his thing, but what we're doing over here with these lawsuits and exposing this stuff,
	this is a part of it.
	Now, the one little curious tidbit I want to mention.
	So Donald Trump was actually in Las Vegas on September 13, Friday, September 13, and
	he did a speech.
	And during that speech, he mentioned one of his talking points was that we're going to
	get BLM, which is the Bureau of Land Management, that is part of this long arm fraud in Nevada.
	He said, we're going to get BLM out of your state.
	We're going to return power back to the state, right?
	And then two days later, they try to kill him again.
	You know, people I don't think understand, like, There's kind of the big topic issues of orange man bad and all that stuff.
	The reason why they're trying to kill this man is because those words of we're gonna get BLM out of your land means the whole fraud falls apart.
	Their fraud is financed through this, okay?
	Now, once you remove that and the financial incentive is gone, their fraud's gone.
	So, all these Harry Reid, Barack Obama, Kamala Harris types, these like parasites on the system, their power goes away overnight, right?
	So, this is why they're trying to kill this guy, right?
	It's not just, you know, what he talks and the threat that he is to the corruption.
	It's because of very specific things like he's affecting their pocket the minute he says.
	we're going to take BLM land away and give it back to the people.
	Well, I look at it as the fact that not only does he say things that they don't like, but
	like you said, there's certain institutions of policy that expose their fraud.
	So when you talk about something like that, you're talking about states' rights, right?
	And one of the new talking points of the mainstream media is, you know, people on the right are talking about constitutional republic instead of a democracy.
	So then they try to go to the biggest idiot wearing a MAGA hat and ask him the difference.
	And of course, that person doesn't know because they're on their peripheral.
	They know the talking point.
	But when you start getting into subjects like this and you say, well, the constitutional republic is outside of just the majority vote and it is a system.
	I mean, if you look at, for instance, our constitution, a bill of rights that you're trying to eviscerate, it's not a majority vote.
	It's two thirds and then three quarters.
	after that. So that's a lot more than a majority. And there are separation of powers within the
	states that adjudicate especially criminal and law enforcement to sheriff's departments within
	the states as the overarching law. That's a big difference from a federal democracy.
	And all of a sudden, you would see these people crumble.
	Now, they would never air that on television. And you see less and less live man on the
	street stuff from the mainstream media because of that. And that's an issue with Trump. Look, I
	think Trump has a lot of problems. But if you just look on the peripheral of just the base
	policies of what he says, that should show people how much of a threat to the system this guy is. And
	he's not even that radical.
	Right?
	I mean, can you imagine an actual radical?
	Let's step it up a notch.
	Let's get to a Rand Paul.
	He's far from perfect, but he's twice Trump.
	I don't think that he'd make it to the first debate stage before they blew his head off.
	But at the same time, I have to have hope, especially with what we've seen, that good and evil do exist.
	You know, I'm not saying it's been providence.
	I don't tell people what to believe.
	But that force of nature, good is fighting back on some level right now.
	And I hope and pray that we can make that push not only in November, but through January and hopefully over the next several years.
	And if we can't do it, you know, state by state or federally, we need to do it in our own lives then.
	Yeah, totally, totally.
	I mean, one of the things we've learned in doing a lot of these exposés is the way the system is set up.
	You know, I'll give Nevada as an example too, right?
	So, the way it's all set up is there's no way out of this mess unless we revise the illogic that is in our system.
	And I'll give you a perfect example, right?
	We had Seagal Chadha running against Aaron Ford for Attorney General.
	Seagal Chadha Republican, Aaron Ford Democrat, right?
	Attorney General Nevada.
	So this is the top lawmaker or law protector position in Nevada, right?
	When you look at the expense reports, there's a show that we've done a pilot to called Follow the Money, where we go through people's expense report, where they're getting their money from, And what you realize is Sigal Chadha, who was a Republican candidate, was getting most of her money in terms of donations from mom-and-pop donors in Nevada, anywhere between $20 to $100 on average, right?
	When you looked at Aaron For's donations, most of his money, and I'm talking about the lion's share, was coming from New York.
	LA, Miami, and Chicago.
	And it was these big donors, right?
	And we're talking about names like, by the way, Steven Spielberg, Rothschild family, those kind of big names, right?
	Those individuals are the ones financing, essentially, the election of the Attorney General.
	They're not even living in Nevada, which is ridiculous.
	I don't even know how that's even become possible.
	Firstly, you have the big money issue, which is a big issue because that takes away power from we the people.
	Unfortunately, we have a system where, and look, hey Roger Stone, I'm looking at you.
	As soon as we said money is speech and we had modern day lobbying and then it went into super PACs and all that other good stuff, all bets were off.
	Unfortunately, my friend, we have run out of time.
	I want everybody to go check out Bundy vs. Deep State.
	This is part one.
	AmericaHappens.com is where you can see it.
	Ben Miller, what a great guest.
	What a great show.
	Folks, you know the drill.
	It is not about left or right to this guy.
	It is always about right and wrong.

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