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	Welcome to Making Sense of the Madness.
	We've got a great show lined up for you today.
	We've got Mark Taps and we're going to be talking about modern day masculinity in the 2024 race and beyond.
	We've also got Thomas Renz talking monkey pox.
	You're not going to want to miss it.
	Buckle up and get ready to make sense of the madness.
	We are joined by author Mark Tapsin.
	Mark, first question, what is modern day masculinity?
	Well, that's a good question.
	The Democrats apparently would like to make modern-day masculinity, or 21st century masculinity as they're now referring to it, they would like to make it the new model of masculinity because the old one, you know, the masculinity that for thousands of years has been about protecting and providing and civilization building, that masculinity is Toxic.
	I'm sure you have heard that phrase, toxic masculinity.
	That's how the left has viewed masculinity for many years, as something that is inherently poisonous.
	But now that this upcoming election is on its way, and along comes a couple of men who are basically serving as second fiddles to female power, in this instance, Kamala Harris, You have Doug Emhoff, who is the second gentleman, as he is referred to, and Tim Walz, her vice presidential candidate.
	And now that these men are involved in this upcoming election, the Democrats want to set them up as role models for a new 21st century masculinity.
	And what they mean by that is new and improved.
	It's progressive.
	It's nothing like the toxic sort.
	In fact, I think one commenter called this the rise of non-toxic masculinity.
	And so, Waltz and Imhoff now are being held up as role models because they're being viewed through a feminist framework, a feminist lens.
	They're being viewed in the sense as being role models for masculinity because, precisely because, They are comfortable deferring to female power.
	So that's the 21st century masculinity as Democrats want to see it.
	It's through this feminist lens, this feminist perspective, which gauges your value as a man and your masculine value according to just how on board you are with the feminist agenda.
	Now in your article over at Substack, you also talk about the fact that these are successful
	men but like you said, they're being subservient to quote unquote more successful women.
	And you also cited the Dana Bash comparison of the DNC to the RNC, where the RNC at the
	end, you know, not only had Donald Trump run it for 90 minutes, but if you look up the
	lineup right before then, I mean you nailed it with Hulk Hogan after a Kid Rock concert
	basically into Dana White.
	And if anybody's been watching the UFC over the past really couple of years plus, I mean
	he's been there throughout.
	But over the past couple of years, Donald Trump has showed up to a lot of these events and gotten standing ovations, whether they be in Florida, Vegas, you name it, even New York, where he's supposed to be reviled.
	And the other thing about the UFC, it's the most popular sport globally right now on the rise, bigger than anything.
	The partnership in the United States with Disney, aka ESPN, has made it even larger.
	And to kind of dismiss that, you know, and like that masculinity is over the top absurd.
	In honesty, when you take a look back at a full lens, it seems to be more popular than ever.
	Yes, and the Democrats know this.
	They know, actually, that they can't defeat that kind of masculinity head-on.
	They have to go the leftist route, which is always to subvert something, especially in the culture.
	This is the way that the left has managed to take control of the culture over the last half century, is by subverting it, by infiltrating and redefining and subverting.
	So, In order to assert these two men, Waltz and Imhoff, as models of 21st century masculinity, they have to redefine masculine, as I was talking about earlier.
	They have to redefine it as men who are comfortable letting women take the lead.
	And if they can do that, if they can sort of present Waltz as America's dad, I mean, I've been a Democrat.
	as a successful man who, I think one, I think one left-wing media commentator described him
	as the modern woman's dream man.
	I mean, I've been a Democrat, I have been a Republican.
	I know many women on both sides of that fence and I don't know very many women who think
	that their dream man is someone who is deferential to female power.
	But, you know, hey, that's just my lived experience.
	What does that count for?
	But you're absolutely right.
	You're absolutely right that You know, on the right, we have the UFC.
	We have someone like Harrison Butcher, you know, a football player who's absolutely reviled by the left for having dared to say in a commencement speech that women should view, not that women should not pursue careers, but that they should view being a wife and mother as the ultimate career, I'm not sure, I don't, know that he put it exactly that way.
	But essentially, he's saying, you know, don't, don't neglect being a wife and mother, because that's invaluable to your nature and to your happiness.
	So he's absolutely demonized by the left, just like, just like all right wing men are absolutely demonized as, as misogynist troglodytes, you know.
	And by contrast, Imhoff and Waltz are much more manly than we are because they're willing to play second fiddle.
	Now, when I read that in your article that that guy was a dream man, the only thing I could think of is maybe if he has a lot of money and there's a gold digger out there looking for a home.
	I mean, the hairline's not there.
	He looks like maybe a taller, skinnier, younger Chuck Schumer.
	That's not a great.
	But that's that's just not.
	But that's me.
	All right.
	That's my lived experience as well.
	And by the way, I consider myself politically homeless.
	I hate both sides.
	You know, again, when I look at the UFC, a lot of people aren't thinking that's their
	ballot box.
	You know what I'm saying?
	That's the other thing that's very bizarre about all this.
	You know, the left wants to act like Democrats don't watch sports or combat sports either.
	That's not real.
	I mean, I talk about combat sports in the UFC.
	One of the things that has absolutely exploded is women's MMA over the last decade.
	The fact of the matter is many of the best fighters that are women are also lesbian.
	That's been embraced by the left and embraced by the UFC.
	They don't really want to focus on those type of quote-unquote libertarian values that I guess go against their narrative.
	Why do you think they haven't been able to get a woman into office?
	You know, obviously, and the highest office.
	When you look at culture, which I know that you do, over the last 50 plus years, really, you've seen a movement away from the strong father that has a family, and dad's dumb.
	And look, my favorite show of all time, you know, 1987, it launched as a full-fledged show as The Simpsons, and you couldn't get a dumber father.
	All right, now that has, I mean, it's still on the air and it's accelerated, but when you look at the vast majority of the cartoon knockoffs and now sitcoms, the father is the incompetent one, the mother is always the capable one.
	They're kind of like the buffoon of the show.
	Meanwhile, that was really, you know, even modeled, I would argue, on the Flintstones, where it was Fred that was not as reasonable to women.
	So they even softened you up at that point.
	How long has this been going on, and why couldn't they get a Hillary Clinton or an Elizabeth Warren into the presidency at this point?
	Well, that's a good question, and the point that you raised about the Simpsons, and they were a favorite show of mine too, that actually proves my point about the left subverting the culture.
	That's one of the ways in which the left has essentially taken over the culture.
	It's because conservatives Kind of turned their back over the last half century on the culture because they consider it kind of inconsequential or insignificant somehow.
	But the left knows that everything starts with the culture.
	So they've taken that over a period of Well, you could go back as far as 80 years or so.
	I mean, you asked when it began.
	It actually began with the cultural Marxists of the 1930s and 40s.
	And what cultural Marxism is about, just for those who might have heard of the term but don't quite know how to define it, cultural Marxism is essentially the application of the old economic Marxism to the cultural realm, because Marxism doesn't work at all in the economic realm.
	But it's very successful in the cultural realm.
	In other words, you take that Marxist paradigm of oppressor versus oppressed, and you take it from the economic realm to the cultural realm, and you create a whole new set of oppressors.
	Or I should say, the oppressed, because the oppressor is, of course, the white, heterosexual, capitalist male.
	And the oppressed is every other demographic category.
	And so when you subvert and infiltrate the culture that way, it's been very successful over the last half century, as you can see.
	And so that's how long it's been going on, really.
	But in terms of why they haven't been able to get a Hillary or an Elizabeth Warren into the highest office in the land, for decades, that was not really In the cards.
	I mean, it was essentially, you know, not enough of a feminist, feminized culture to, you know, have a president, female president back in the 70s or 80s or even 90s.
	Now we're at a position where yes, we could have a female president, it's very likely, but the female candidates that have been put forward are utterly unlikable.
	I mean, Hillary Clinton is utterly unlikable.
	She's just not, you know, she lost to Trump for I think a number of reasons, but part of it is that she doesn't present herself as presidential.
	And I'd say Kamala Harris is in much the same situation.
	She's very unlikable.
	I mean, she's not, I should say unpopular.
	Maybe that's a better way to phrase it, but she's completely unpopular and gives off no sign, no indication that she's a presidential medal, that she could handle the reins of power like that.
	I think if a woman came along who did present those qualities, a woman who came along who did have the confidence of the people that she could be presidential, I think even Republicans would vote for her.
	But so far we haven't seen a candidate like that, and we're certainly not getting one like that in Kamala Harris.
	Well, in 2008, I voted Cynthia McKinney via the Green Party.
	I thought she was the best candidate.
	I wasn't going for the hope and change.
	So, I mean, again, I don't think that the, I mean, I don't think that we've been presented with that person either.
	I think that Tulsi Gabbard was certainly on that road, but just like anybody of substance gets railroaded on either side by the political establishment.
	Certainly, Trump is the anomaly to have the resources and that Yeah.
	culture popularity to be able to fight that war and people don't really
	understand that aspect of his 2016 campaign he was the culture so in
	essence he was able to wage his own culture war we're gonna take a quick
	break we're gonna come back I want to talk about what the future holds and what happens if Kamala Harris is simply installed one way or another even prior to the actual election.
	We're going to get his take after this.
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	We are back with Mark Tapsin.
	Mark, you know, I've often posited this.
	A lot of people, especially in the election cycle, talk about October surprises.
	And number one, this person got zero votes to be the Democratic nominee from any American citizen before you could argue the delegates as American citizens to give her those votes at the convention.
	It's kind of, I mean, it was common knowledge with anybody with a brain watching the 2020 election that Joe Biden had dementia and clearly would run nothing.
	It's now accepted by everybody.
	There's nobody out there really going to say, yeah, no, he's not a dementia patient.
	They don't even roll.
	I mean, they rolled him out for the first night of the convention and then literally pushed him away.
	It's the most insane thing ever.
	If we had something happen, an event in this country or more than likely in the Middle East or Russia, Ukraine, in which we would have to make big time military decisions, perhaps that we did not for whatever reason, I could see them making Joe Biden step down with three weeks to go in the election, two weeks to go in the election and annoying Kamala Harris as the first woman president.
	And then in this time of crisis, try to sell us on that.
	Is that crazy?
	And if that is done, is that it?
	I mean, are they just going to keep running with this woman?
	Oh, I think it's definitely not crazy.
	I think it's likely to happen, actually.
	I don't think Biden is actually even going to finish out the term.
	I actually said for years that he wasn't going to finish it out, but I didn't know it would end up this way.
	Yeah, they definitely perceive Kamala Harris to be basically the current president.
	And so she's already sort of the incumbent in a way.
	And if there is an October surprise of some sort, if there is some kind of a crisis around election time and she's in office, I think we're in a lot of trouble.
	Even without an October surprise, I'm not confident that Trump is going to win.
	This election, because I think the Democrats will do whatever it takes to keep him out of the office, whatever it takes, even if he ends up with more votes.
	Because at this point, I'm beginning to wonder if the Democrats can even cheat their way out of this one.
	I don't think they can massage the numbers like they were able to last time.
	So I don't know what's going to happen.
	But I think either way, we're going to We're going to be entering a time of incredible turmoil.
	Whether Kamala wins or Trump wins, on either side, it's going to be a rough ride.
	And I think we're going to see violence in the streets either way.
	I don't know if it's actually a Chinese curse, but this is the way that I always heard it was that it's an old Chinese curse.
	May you live in interesting times.
	We are about to really hit some interesting times.
	I can't predict what's going to happen or even who's going to win, but I think the Democrats view Kamala as their candidate and the person going forward.
	I don't think they're going to try to slip in anyone else at the last minute, or bring Biden back to take control in case of, you know, a national or international emergency.
	I think Kamala is their, their man.
	And, and for better or worse, and so it's, it's going to be very interesting in a Well, I think we've been living in some of the most interesting political times for a couple decades now, a couple decades plus, if you've been paying attention.
	It's only gotten more outwardly chaotic and insane, especially with the amount of censorship and control over the narrative.
	By both big tech and media and it becoming so obvious to so many people that it's really reached the crescendo of not just us talking about political dissidents or people on the fringes, etc.
	It's an entire political party, right?
	It's an entire accepted political movement and I would argue they're also going to go after people on the left that move outside of that narrative.
	We've already seen that via Robert F. Kennedy Jr., which has been, I think, the most obvious
	example and began to wake up some of these people on the left.
	Now, with that being said, living in interesting times, there also is that saying that strong
	men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create bad times, bad times
	create strong men.
	Are we going to get, cause there's some pretty rough customer times out there.
	I know there are many people in the West, the United States in particular, that are somewhat shielded from that.
	But a lot of middle America felt that crunch at the grocery store this year and they're continuing to.
	And you know, a lot of the younger people are realizing, wait, I might not own a home.
	And it's not, they're telling you, you're not going to own a home.
	They're telling you, you're going to own nothing and be happy.
	Yeah.
	Is this now finally that time where it is bad times to create strong men once again, or with all of this conditioning, is it the end of the strong man?
	Uh, that's a very good question.
	I would say that the strong man is on his way back.
	Actually.
	I think that, uh, even up until a recent few years, Masculinity was in a state that everybody generally considered a crisis.
	You heard this phrase all the time, the crisis of masculinity.
	You know, the boy crisis, as one author called it.
	But in recent years, I think there's been a real turnaround about that.
	And you're beginning to see a rise in masculinity, not the 21st century sort that the Democrats would like you to believe is on the ascendant.
	But I think there's a real yearning for a return to traditional masculinity.
	And I don't mean of the worst or most patriarchal sort.
	I mean, I don't think we're headed for, you know, what the left likes to fearmonger about, which is a handmaid's tale, sort of dystopian future in which the West is essentially like fundamentalist Islam and treats women, you know, as basically baby-making
	machines.
	That's what the left likes to fearmonger about, but I'm not talking about that kind of masculinity.
	I'm talking about a return to even a sort of a chivalric masculinity. Chivalry is
	kind of a demonized term and a misunderstood term these days, but I think we're beginning to see the
	rise of a masculinity that embraces a more traditional role as protector and provider and
	civilization builder and to value that form of masculinity.
	And I think both men and women are ready for that comeback.
	And this might be, as you alluded to a moment ago, this might be the tough times coming up that will help forge that sort of masculinity going forward.
	But I'm optimistic.
	Last couple minutes in this segment, what would you like to leave the audience with?
	Wow.
	OK, well, in terms of the topic we've been talking about today, the masculinity, I think, you know, we need to just ignore the narrative that the Democrats are trying to assert, which is that Emhoff and Waltz represent a new masculinity and that that masculinity is valued only in terms of how it's viewed through a feminist framework.
	I think we should just reject that narrative and all their other narratives, frankly, media driven narratives.
	But I think as far as masculinity goes, we need to be willing to support men in the issues that they're wrestling with in the 21st century because they're serious.
	We need to acknowledge that the future is not going to be female, as Hillary claimed that it would be in her campaign motto.
	The future is female.
	It's not going to be female.
	It's going to be male and female.
	It can't be just one or the other, or we're a doomed civilization.
	But I think we need to see each other, man and woman, as partners in reclaiming the kind of glory that Western civilization used to represent and is now in decline.
	So I think we need to look for the right kind of masculinity, and that is a moral masculinity that is not afraid of presenting strength and power, and to embrace that and move forward that way.
	Mark, where can people find your work in Sepporia?
	Best place to go is my Substack page, which is marktapson.substack.com.
	It's called Culture Warrior, and that's probably the best place to go.
	Well, thank you so much for joining us.
	We're going to take a quick break.
	When we come back, we have attorney Tom Renz with us, and we're going to be talking about Monkeypox, Mpox, Tedros, the UN, and beyond.
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	And we are back.
	We are now joined by famed attorney Tom Renz.
	And if you don't know Tom Renz, then you don't know somebody who's dedicated the last several years of his life to exposing the truth behind the COVID-19-84 nightmare, from the disease itself all the way to the quote-unquote countermeasures that we endured as a society.
	Thank you so much for joining us, Tom.
	This journey is still going and at this point, although COVID has not been as hyped up, we have seen different attempts to hype up things like the bird flu, monkey pox in particular.
	Monkey pox recently rebranded as quote-unquote mpox and you have the World Health Organization out there, Tedros in particular, Declaring an emergency, talking about the Congo, but then of course trying to expand it from the Congo, thereby expanding their powers.
	So where are we right now in regards to this monkey pox or mpox?
	Well, I gotta tell you, Jason, just that intro, there's so many different things we can talk about.
	You've got to understand, monkey pox is the next step, right?
	So we go back to COVID, which you're right.
	Everybody wants to pretend that's dead and gone.
	But you did just see what happened when Bobby Kennedy decided to endorse Donald Trump.
	The world erupted, right?
	The reason for that is, is even though COVID may not be a great headline anymore, people are dying right and left from these vaccines and they're still trying to sweep that under the rug as they're developing more mRNA poisons and repeating exactly what they did with COVID.
	They created COVID in a lab, They rolled it out, they poisoned everybody, and then they gave everybody the same cure that they developed for the disease that they built.
	And in fact, Jason, I don't know if you're aware of this because we're only starting to kind of leak this out a little bit, but I have absolute hard evidence right now that shows that Ralph Baric, Who was actually the creator of or one of the people who contributed to what occurred in that Wuhan lab where SARS-CoV-2 was created.
	Ralph Baric of the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill was also one of the inventors of remdesivir.
	So he was involved with the creation of COVID, remdesivir, and the vaccines.
	You create the cure, you create the disease, it's just a great snake oil plant.
	Same thing is occurring with monkeypox, where we now have absolutely indisputable, I can't say proof, but hard evidence that our government, under Anthony Fauci, built this in a lab.
	It's mind-blowing.
	The whole thing is just continuing, and if we don't learn from COVID, It's going to keep going.
	We've got multiple gain-of-function diseases out there now with more on the way.
	Well, you know, you just mentioned RFK Jr.
	And obviously him throwing his support behind Trump while still trying to stay in the race where maybe he can make an impact to create a third party, which I think is an admirable subdivision and interesting, really to me is kind of put by the wayside by the fact that the main difference is obviously Operation Warp Speed.
	Now, after the Trump assassination attempt, Trump calls Bobby Kennedy, and for some reason during that call, Trump acknowledges at least traditional shots are in fact linked to autism.
	You know, he says he's seen it firsthand.
	Now, this is something he's dabbled with before, but really that's probably the most stark moment we've ever seen Trump say that.
	Now that they're on board together, that's kind of the elephant in the room, right?
	It is.
	RFK Jr.' 's position, a correct position on this whole thing from the Hayton Live shot being a bioweapon, etc., to it being a military-driven operation where really these companies just put their name on most of these things, etc.
	To Trump still out there, you know, with Elon Musk on X, Tom, talking about how the shots are the best thing since breakfast and how many lives they've saved.
	So, where is that resolution in your eyes?
	Do you think we're going to see one?
	Because I do believe, by this point, Trump absolutely knows his mistake and error.
	And whether or not he's just so pig-headed he hasn't consciously, you know, come around to admitting that fact is one thing.
	Because he's certainly aware of it somewhere.
	Oh, I can tell you that's a certainty, given the blowback I've gotten from his campaign, because I won't shut up about it.
	You know, I'm quite confident that he's aware.
	Listen, the president is not a stupid man.
	The president knows what's going on, and he's doing what he's got to do.
	You know, at the end of the day, I don't know Trump, and so I can't say what's going to happen, but I'm at this point comfortable that he's moved far enough on this that I can, you know, be Less concerned about my support.
	He is never going to mandate anything.
	And, you know, whether or not he lets things move forward, lets these guys continue creating these poisons, I don't know.
	But he seems to be willing to entertain the idea that the corruption is universal in our federal government.
	He seems to be willing to understand this.
	I think the assassination attempt was You know, the thing about it is, is when you're faced with that, when you're faced with your own mortality, you start to question things.
	And if Trump had any questions about the depth of depravity that our deep state is, well, that woke him up, right?
	So whether Trump knows that the mRNA is poison or not, I don't know.
	But what he does seem to be willing to acknowledge Is that the deep state is, is capable of about anything.
	And he seems to be very interested in getting to the bottom of what's going on with the deep state.
	Now I've said from the beginning, and I'll say it again, I am 100% MAGA, 100% Donald Trump.
	But, if he gets in there and does anything mandating any mRNAs, and if he does anything like that, I'll sue his ass just like I'd sue anybody else.
	I don't care.
	The truth is the truth.
	We know what's going on here.
	We know what's happening here.
	We know what's happened.
	Right now, he's got Chris LaCivita and Susie Wiles running his campaign.
	Both of them work.
	for companies that are owned by Omnicom, which is a World Economic Forum partner.
	The World Economic Forum is one of the main, their members are the main people pushing this mRNA poison all over the place.
	So, you know, the Omnicom is going to continue to promote mRNA everywhere, and the people like Susie Wiles and Chris Lasavita, who work for companies owned by Omnicom, are going to keep doing what they do.
	That said, Trump seems to have woken up.
	He seems to have figured out what's going on.
	He seems to know where he's going on this.
	And at the end of the day, I have no hesitation about supporting Donald Trump.
	Are there snakes around him?
	Sure.
	Are there issues?
	Sure.
	But at the end of the day, we have Donald Trump, who's very clear.
	He's going to bring back military.
	He's going to give them back pay.
	He's going to apologize.
	He's going to do all these different things.
	He's on the right side of this, generally.
	I pray that when he gets in there, he empowers truly independent people like Bobby, you know, pick your guy, to investigate what's going on with the corruption in health care and the health fraud and, you know, to get to the bottom of this.
	I mean, I can tell you right now.
	Whether it's Bill Gates and his flying mosquito syringes, whether it's Anthony Fauci's Dr. Moss, who was a genetic engineer working for NIAID, who was involved with the gain-of-function work on the monkeypox, whether it's... I mean, there's a lot of bad guys to go after and a lot of things that we need to investigate, but it will only occur if we get a president in there who understands the deep state and is willing to allow it.
	And I can tell you one thing.
	That president is not Harris.
	She's owned by the Deep State.
	No, I have to agree with you.
	And before we get into what they may pull, whether it be mpox or bird flu or some other type of health emergency in October beforehand, where are we in the actual investigations, criminally or otherwise, with people like Fauci, Daszak, you mentioned Barrick, etc.
	For instance, you know, when they had Fauci up there, There were certain people that were obviously grilling him and trying to get him on the record and trying to expose him.
	There was a whole other political side that's literally still thanked Anthony Fauci for his science and talked about how he saved all of these lives.
	Now, Daszak, before those hearings, had a closed-door deposition where if you just read down the line, you had Chapel Hill in there.
	You had a university out of New York in there.
	You had the Department of Energy there.
	Of course, you had Echo Health, Wuhan Lab, etc.
	There are a lot of bullet points that a lot of people still haven't been paying attention to and certainly weren't discussed at any length in any of these hearings.
	So in your opinion, nobody knows it better than you on the ground.
	In reality, where are we with any kind of criminal investigation or successful lawsuit that we may see some type of justice?
	So there's two answers to that.
	And in terms of the criminal investigation, we're nowhere because no one's investigating it.
	Yeah, we had a fake COVID committee by the Republicans in the House, led by Brad Wenstrup, who's a big pharma puppet.
	That was nothing more than a whitewash attempt.
	They wouldn't let people like Marjorie Taylor Greene ask real questions.
	They wouldn't allow things brought forth.
	I mean, that was nothing but a joke.
	And so until we have some truly independent, this won't be done by Congress.
	They won't do it.
	They're owned by Big Pharma money.
	And even the best guys in Congress are limited because they have to work within the establishment, right?
	So yeah, even the MTGs and the Tom Masseys and these guys that are truly good people that are fighting.
	They are not going to be empowered by the GOP to properly investigate this.
	So in terms of criminal, I don't know of any state AGs or prosecutors working on this in a way that's going to result in anything real occurring.
	We got some stuff going on out of Texas.
	It's not enough.
	I applaud Ken Paxton.
	I really like the guy, but I don't think I don't think there's a prosecutor AG in America with the cojones to work with me on something like this to get it done right because I'm not political.
	I don't care about the politics.
	I just care about people's lives.
	So I don't think the criminal's going to be going anywhere anytime soon unless we force it through political will from we the people.
	I do, however, think You know, there's a lot of room on civil.
	I've got about 15 different cases that I could file right now.
	The problem is, is there's no resources.
	One of the things that people don't understand, well, you're a lawyer, file a suit!
	You've got to understand something.
	It costs money to file a lawsuit.
	It's not just me writing a suit and handing it to a judge.
	I have to pay expert witnesses.
	I have to pay people to manage it.
	I have to pay people.
	And these are huge, complex suits.
	They're not something that I can just willy-nilly file.
	When I did some of those early COVID cases, they were expensive as hell.
	I paid for them out of my pocket.
	I'm out of money, so I can't do that.
	If we get the funding, there's a lot of room to get accountability.
	There's a lot of things that we can do.
	We've learned a ton.
	I can show a lot of different things.
	Again, I'm sitting here, I'm looking over at my desk.
	I've got a stack of papers right here.
	The evidence showing that Peter Daszak was, you know, one of the guys involved with creating Remdesivir.
	I mean, the money ties all these things together.
	The fraud that was involved in this is monumental.
	The corruption, the violation of numerous laws, it's all there.
	But you got to have a little bit of funding and a little bit of support to do it.
	So the question will be whether people will fund and support this or they're going to wait for disease X to hit before they get mad enough to realize that, you know, listen, if we don't if we don't fund and do something for accountability, it ain't going to happen.
	Now that brings us to Disease X. Do you think they may roll something out in October to try to get some type of emergency measures in some of the states that say should have been contested or audited in 2020?
	We wouldn't want to claim election fraud, you know, against any machines or big companies or anything like that, Tom.
	But is that a possibility?
	Is that in the playbook or are we going to see Disease X somewhere down the line whether or not Trump gets in or Harris is installed.
	Well, I've done an immense amount of additional work on the election stuff.
	I've been doing that quietly behind the scenes.
	And there's not a whole lot that can be done in terms of lawsuits on that.
	What's important to understand on the election stuff is that probably more important than anything with the machines was the paper ballots that they were printing out in the extra days that they had.
	Right?
	So that's a big deal.
	And, you know, when we see voter rolls being cleaned in states, you know, Texas just took a million people off their voter roll.
	That's a big deal.
	That's going to be a big thing.
	And, you know, watching the polls, being observant, there's a lot of things that we can do that are going to help that.
	Are they going to do a Disease X before that?
	I got to be honest with you, Disease X is absolutely going to be here.
	But I don't think it's going to be here I think that if there's any way that they can, they're going to try and push it until after the election.
	Because I think everybody's clear that if you tried to lock people down again for another fake disease before the election, I think people would explode.
	I think people would lose their minds.
	I think we're far more likely to see civil unrest.
	You know, we've got over a million military-age Chinese and Iranian men that have crossed the southern border.
	We have active terrorist training camps that the FBI is aware of working right now in this country.
	We have George Soros paying protesters and antagonizing people all over the country.
	At the end of the day, the potential for civil unrest is boiling over, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's where the October surprise comes in.
	Now, that said, We see them testing the waters right now, right?
	They've been testing the waters with the bird flu.
	They've been testing the waters with the monkeypox.
	And what they're getting is a very strong counterpunch.
	You know, McCullough, myself, Bobby, there's a bunch of people out there that every time they do this, you know, McCullough has been very hard and very on top of the bird flu.
	I've been sitting here waiting on this monkeypox thing.
	Yeah, right now I'm looking at the UN or the World Health Organization Yeah, they called it a global health emergency.
	There have been, according to the World Health Organization, from January 2022 till June of 2024, There were 208 deaths globally from monkeypox.
	So they want to call 208 deaths on the globe an emergency.
	Absolute fraud.
	It's not even questioned whether this is fraud.
	So they're trying to move this stuff forward, but they're seeing a lot of pushback.
	I don't think they're going to get away with it before the election, but there will be a disease X. I would say this fall and winter you really want to watch.
	Now they're putting mRNA in the flu vaccines this year.
	And they're putting mRNA in everything.
	And Bill Gates is releasing his poison mosquitoes.
	That's just approved all over the place.
	And now we're seeing lockdowns and other such things.
	They're going to create a health emergency.
	The health emergency is going to be the result of the poisons that they're introducing into people.
	Through the food, through the mosquitoes, through the air, through the water supply.
	But I think that that needs to hit probably post election.
	I think what they're shooting for is a Harris win.
	So that they can push us in post-election, then her and tampon Tim can run out with their paintballs and shoot people if they're outside on their porch with their paintball guns, and, you know, create the fear of God everywhere so that they can get these mRNA poisons into everyone and justify the World Health Organization treaty going into full effect.
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	And Tom, you know, obviously there has been at least some mainline recognition of things like myocarditis, although they always try to frame it as rare, etc.
	You've seen AstraZeneca and their shot taken off the market.
	Now, on the opposite end of that, you know, a lot of people think that this is over, but not if you go to a state university in New York or somewhere else that's still mandating boosters.
	So, you know, we still have a system that is giving these kids shots and in certain other arenas that's happening.
	The heart attacks, the myocarditis is one thing.
	We get into the turbo cancers that aren't being acknowledged.
	But specifically, the other aspect are compromised immune systems.
	And we're starting to see that on a massive level in this country.
	What are your thoughts in that playing into something like a disease X, where all of a sudden something is released specifically to go after people that may have those types of compromised immune systems?
	You mean like monkey pox, right?
	So monkey pox has shown to have a far greater impact on people with compromised immune systems.
	If you've got HIV, you're very susceptible to monkey pox, and that's where a lot of the problems are, to be honest.
	I believe I saw a figure that 55% of new cases are in people who have HIV.
	So if you have HIV, you're much more likely.
	That's always been one of the points of mRNA, to weaken your immune system, to create people who are perpetually reliant on big pharma interventions to stay alive.
	You want a permanent customer base there.
	We also know that, by the way, monkeypox, in 2015, Fauci approved a gain-of-function proposal that would allow his guy at NIAID, their genetic engineers at NIAID, to mesh clad-2 and clad-1 monkeypox.
	Now understand that you have two different versions of monkeypox.
	One is more deadly, one transmits more easily.
	Fauci said, hey, I'm going to let you guys put these together into something that's more deadly and transmits more easily, because that makes good sense, right?
	So now NIAID and HHS are stonewalling Congress as to whether these things happen, but what we know is that they were approved in 2015.
	The gain-of-function research was allowed to continue until 2023, and then just before the new version of monkeypox rolled out that they're saying is more dangerous, they shut the program down.
	Why is that?
	Now, take this back.
	So you've got this new dangerous monkeypox that Fauci and crew built in the lab, in my opinion, and you've got the reality that autoimmune issues make it more dangerous.
	Well, understand something.
	You mentioned turbo cancer.
	My wife has stage 4 cancer, so we're fighting that too, right?
	I've done an immense amount of work on cancer.
	Cancer is one of those things that people don't understand.
	An autoimmune issue is really important.
	There is a lot of evidence suggesting that the way the immune system is compromised with mRNA shots is part of the reason for the explosion in the cancers.
	Instead of your body defending properly against these cancers, it's absolutely failing to do so once you've gotten these mRNA shots.
	Why?
	Well, because it's affecting your immune system.
	Cancer is something that your immune system fights until it can't.
	When you disrupt the immune system, you can disrupt your body's ability to keep cancer out of you.
	So it looks like the cancers and autoimmune issues, which by the way, we've got 2003 industry guidance from the FDA, where they acknowledge the gene therapy products such as mRNA shots that we have now.
	Would cause autoimmune issues and cancer over a number of years, which is exactly what we're seeing.
	Enter monkeypox.
	Enter some of these other things that they're doing that really hit you hard if you have a weakened immune system.
	To me, this was all part of a plan.
	It's way too convenient.
	It's way too predictable.
	They put these shots out there.
	They tried to get them to everybody so that everybody would get sick.
	So they could then justify their Who Treaty.
	They could justify more of these shots.
	And they're really working to create an ecosystem where you continue to get these shots.
	Forever or you die once you become dependent on these things And you will be physically dependent because they will destroy your immune system They will destroy and you'll either keep getting them or you'll die and if you do get them, you'll still die So it's it's really a huge win and a huge boon to the big pharma who's got the only treatments in town How would you suggest people try to mitigate this if indeed they took 1, 2, 3 or are still taking these things right now?
	Is there hope?
	We've talked about these shots as if they're one thing.
	We know for a fact that they are not one thing.
	You have the mRNA.
	Then you have the vector-based shots.
	You also seem to have what they say are hotter or heavier doses in some of these shots, etc.
	They seem to be at least derived from similar technology, but at the same time there are variations.
	Well, understand, we were experimented on.
	So these shots were not a single formula.
	We know, we've got the Pfizer paperwork.
	They use different cap colors to denote different formulations.
	Well, if it was safe and effective and it worked, why do you need different formulations?
	It's simply because it didn't work.
	It wasn't safe or effective.
	This whole thing was an experiment.
	So, we don't know what was in these.
	We don't know what, you know, depending on what shot you got, that would impact what you have.
	And at the end of the day, I'm going to be real honest, I don't think there's anything out there that's a cure for these.
	Now, I know that McCullough and, uh, what are they called?
	The company he works for, Wellness Company, they've been working on some different things and I know they've got an SARNA or an SIRNA that they're talking about as possibly interfering with these.
	I don't know.
	I haven't looked into it yet enough to know whether it works.
	I'm a little suspicious of anything RNA, but it could be a good product.
	I don't know.
	I certainly like Peter, and he's a brilliant scientist, so I'm interested.
	At the end of the day, I don't know of anything that I could say I would throw my weight behind.
	That I would say, you know, listen, if I would have got this shot, this is what I'm recommending.
	I don't have that yet.
	I'm looking and I'm trying to watch, but it's something that I haven't fully investigated, the wellness company stuff.
	I know there's some supplements out there.
	My friend Dr. Henry Ely is doing a lot of work on this.
	He's working with Brian Artis and some other guys.
	They're considered pretty controversial, but I can tell you I know these guys well, and they're some of the most disciplined scientists I've ran across.
	Privately, the reality is that a lot of Henry's work has been the basis for a lot of other people's work that's been stolen.
	There's stuff out there.
	There's a lot of people working on it.
	I don't know that there's a holy grail, and I do think it's going to be hard to develop one because we don't even know what was in these shots.
	I mean, there were a lot of these shots that we know they found graphene and other things in the vials.
	There's no clear explanation for what or why.
	I mean, there was some nonsense out there about, oh, it was just an accidental contamination byproduct from the manufacturing process.
	I don't believe that for a second.
	But we don't know why it's there for sure.
	There's been a lot of people who have claimed that there's different tech and different this, different that, but we don't have enough evidence because we haven't been able to examine the vials properly.
	There's been a lot of vials that they've gotten that were either expired or this, that, and other, but none of them really meet evidentiary standards that I could use in court.
	So there's a little bit of guesswork here and an awful lot of prayer going into how we're going to find a cure when we can't even look at the problem.
	TomRenz.com, TomRenz.com, what would you like to leave the audience with in the final moment?
	Listen.
	We've got two options in this election.
	We've got a guy who's promising to reinstate people, to give them back pay, and to support our right to freely choose what we put in our body.
	And we've got another group of jerks out there that just, they're going to mandate and force everything they can.
	It's only my body, my choice when it comes to killing babies and abortion for Kamala Harris.
	It's certainly not your body, your choice when it comes to getting experimental gene therapy drugs injected into your arms.
	It's we need to mobilize.
	We need to stand with Donald Trump.
	We need to start and continue to push for accountability.
	We need to dig further.
	If you are not fighting now, you're never gonna.
	This is our kids' future on the line.
	I've heard for 40 years, this is the most important election ever.
	This really is.
	This is make or break for America.
	We've got two options, freedom or socialist communist nonsense.
	You know where I stand.
	Tom, thank you so much.
	We have run out of time.
	Remember, this guy, it's not about left or right.
	It is always about right and wrong.
	I absolutely love you guys.

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