The Lone Mainstream Journalist Exposing Bilderberg
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This may be one of the most important shows of the year.
My guest today is on the ground at Bilderberg 2024 in Madrid, Spain.
Now, this is a pre-recorded.
It will be airing Monday, but essentially, the meeting is pretty much wrapped up.
They are in Saturday evening, and most people leave in the morning or early afternoon.
On Sunday, there's so much to get through, and you're not going to be hearing it in the mainstream media.
And unfortunately, most of the quote-unquote alternative media as well.
So buckle up and get ready to make sense of the madness.
My guest is Charlie Skelton.
He is on the ground at Bilderberg in his media and journalism capacity.
He has just put out a amazing article that I hope everybody goes and checks out over at The Guardian.
War AI and more war.
The 2024 Bilderberg agenda is sure to set off alarm bells.
And I want to take it back because you just had a crazy thing happen.
But really, this crazy journey now began, I believe, 15 years ago with you covering Bilderberg as a joke and having a little tussle with a secret policeman.
Never did you understand your world would change forever, Charlie, but that's essentially what happened.
Break that first Bilderberg down for us.
Well, it was intense.
It was an extremely intense few days where, yeah, I went along to Religmani, kind of as a joke, thinking it might be funny.
Not 100% sure it was there at all.
And yeah, within not very long of my being there, my world just turned completely upside down.
The Greek police were heavy-handed, to put it mildly.
And I was just constantly detained and screamed at and taken to the police station and screamed at some more.
And eventually I just went, this is, I don't know what I'm doing here.
I'm going.
Ended up just leaving, going to Athens, which is like 30 minutes away.
And then it got much worse.
They followed me to Athens and just, I looked out of the hotel window.
This is true.
I looked out of the hotel lobby and there was just a row of about 10 plainclothes policemen staring at me.
And it got super crazy, super intense.
Nothing has been that bad since.
Nothing.
It was like just being thrown off straight into the deep end.
And yeah, it was, and so anything they can do now is a warm bath.
Well, what I love about it is, again, you kind of went into this as a joke, right?
Like, oh, the power elite, you know, blah, blah, blah.
And then your very first experience is something that is out of spy novels.
And you don't quit.
This actually encourages you to do more with this year after year.
And you have been, in my opinion, the prominent Bilderberg reporter.
Shout out to everybody else out there, Josh Friedman, Dan Dix of Press for Truth, etc.
Great work by them as well.
But before we get into this meeting and how close you actually got and some of the things you saw, some of the attendees, etc., you were just detained again with Dan Dix of Press for Truth.
I'm not sure if Josh was with you as well.
Josh was there.
Yes.
And for the last 40 minutes, and Dan had posted yesterday, which would have been Friday, the first main day of Bilderberg, they get there on Thursday, that there was a, I believe it was a Dutch crew that got visited by secret police in a bar.
And they were so startled after that that they just took off.
They didn't think twice.
They were so upset.
Honestly, I was there.
I was in the cafe where it took place.
And I could see something going on over it.
And I thought, because they were plainclothes policemen and I didn't twig, and it was the other side of the cafe.
And I just thought they were having some kind of animated conversation.
And then the voices started getting raised.
And I sort of just, I should obviously have gone over it, but I didn't really think anything of it.
I just thought there was some argument going on.
But it turns out they were being really harassed by these plainclothes Spanish police.
And they were really shaken up by it and upset.
And they just went, we're off.
We're going.
And they just drove home to Holland.
Literally, they just took off.
They just threw their bags into the car and drove.
And they could see they were practically crying.
It was like, you know, they just were, you know, they were kind of here to just cover it and get some, you know, publicity, put some stuff on social media, et cetera, et cetera.
And, you know, they didn't expect to be given some kind of crazy third degree, which was so unnecessary.
You know, they were just these really, you know, just really polite, nice couples sitting there.
And you just think, what are you doing shouting at them?
Come on.
But anyway.
Well, that speaks to the attitude of this, right?
First of all, kudos to you.
You knew a few weeks ago where it was going to be in Madrid, Spain.
Kind of one person's, I believe it was their logs of where they would be and attending Bilderberg that gave it away.
But publicly, there was no list until Thursday when people started arriving.
Number two, when you look at this, there was no media coverage.
I mean, none.
There were zero articles.
I was looking into it.
The last one was from February, and it was actually talking about Kissinger and the power structure of Bilderberg, etc.
Every once in a while now, academics will acknowledge that.
But here you are, and now I think there's about half a dozen, half a dozen articles out there via Bilderberg 2024.
That's the best we're going to get.
Yet, when we look at this year in particular, at least as I've looked at it, it may be as media heavy as it's ever been.
I totally agree.
Bloomberg, Politico, Fareed Zakaria of CNN, CEOs of Spotify.
I mean, you go down the line, Atlantic, of course, there.
And the media presence is almost a bit overwhelming this time.
Can you discuss that?
I did notice that.
And on the subject of Bloomberg, I just want to point out that one of the steering committee members of Bilderberg, Mark Carney, was not long ago made appointed chairman of the board of directors of Bloomberg.
So, you know, it's, and the, you know, and Micklethwaite, the editor-in-chief, is there.
And, but yeah, absolutely.
And it's very media heavy.
There's a lot of journalists in there, you know, and something that the Dutch crew mentioned to me is that they noticed that the two Dutch journalists who were there, the media organization they worked for is owned by the company that's run by Thomas Lason, who's on the Bilderberg steering committee.
So it's a very, it's very closed.
You know, it's all, you know, they close the ranks and they bring people in that everyone's very trusted, obviously.
And, you know, it's slightly depressing when you're on the outside and it's, you know, you're being detained by the, you know, the military police, et cetera, et cetera.
Well, let's put it into perspective here.
All right.
Let's really put it into perspective.
You are the only mainstream media journalist that is on the scene the entire time of Bilderberg.
From what I understand, Dan Dix had a quick interaction with somebody from Reuters that was trying to, I guess, report on a non-existent protest that was not occurring there.
Again, you've been around the ones, as have I, that have any semblance of protest.
And I think the peak of that was really 2012.
And in 2017, it was very sparse.
It was there, but it was a handful compared to what you saw five years ago in the United States.
Since then, especially with COVID, et cetera, I mean, I was so upset when, what, they were in the middle of Washington, D.C.
And I just happened to have my girlfriend at the time in Iowa, so I couldn't jump ship and go.
And she literally lives in Virginia, right outside of DC.
She's a DC reporter.
And I'm like, man, why wasn't I visiting her then?
That's how secret they kept that one, right?
But once again, you literally, like, for instance, Doffner has been going there a lot lately, Adolf Dopner of the Axel Springer Media Group.
You have three to four times easy mainstream media, either journalists or representatives inside than alternative media and mainstream outside reporting combined.
Totally.
And, you know, it's an obvious point to make, but the experience is so different.
You know, outside, it's just tough.
It really is.
You know, we're trying to get anything at all.
And this year, they have kept such a tight lid on the conference.
You know, and I, you know, I don't, at one level, blame them in the sense they want to keep it under wraps.
They want to keep it secret.
They don't want press coverage.
So, you know, they made it unbelievably difficult for us.
You know, but always little cracks.
You know, you find little ways.
Like Josh got an amazing photo of the King of Spain arriving on Thursday.
He came in a huge motorcade and Josh happened to just get a shot in to show who it was.
Otherwise, we'd never have known because, you know, they just don't really tell us anything.
Well, they tell us, you know, they tell us that that's not fair.
You know, they tell us the list of topics.
They tell us the official participants.
And, you know, we have to make of that what we can.
And, you know, but we do a little bit of journalism.
Like today, we found out by being on the ground and by trying really hard, we found out where they were going for their banquet tonight, which turns out to be this extraordinary financial campus called Santander Group City.
So now that is on these outskirts of Madrid.
And if you think of the Google campus, this giant bank, Santander, has built a similar thing.
It's got its own school.
It's got its own restaurants.
It's a huge, huge campus.
And that's where they went.
And it's worth mentioning because it's clear that, as we knew, that Santander is bankrolling this event.
It's an event to which, you know, if you dig a little bit deeper, this becomes problematic.
There's all of these, and there's a lot of public officials there this year.
There's four EU commissioners.
You know, there's.
Henados there.
I mean, you go down the line.
The military-industrial complex, the tech companies, the banks, but the journalists are so heavy this time around.
Yeah.
And the whole thing is being bankrolled by a giant financial institution, Santander, whose chief group chair is Anna Battan, and she's on the board of Bilderberg.
And she brought in another board member from Santander this year whose job title is listed as something like head of some Coca-Cola, Euro-Pacific franchise or whatever.
you know her actual input the reason she's there is that she's on the board of this bank you know there's a lot of there's a lot of things where they let's talk about that for a second because they mask sometimes what they're really there for And I was noticing that.
For instance, like Stacey Abrams, for some reason, has become one of their American darlings.
She's been there now since pre-COVID.
And obviously she's not running for office.
But then you look at the group she's representing, it's like, no, she's there on behalf of the Democratic Party and the operatives surrounding there and maybe some of these other organizations.
But other than her, I mean, this time around, you don't really have a lot of U.S. politicians, if any.
I've noticed that too.
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There's no congressmen or senators that are screaming out.
Usually like you'll see a Kristen cinema, someone they're going to try to do something with.
That's not there.
Abrams is the closest thing.
As far as representatives of the military-industrial complex that, again, don't have a title, but I suspect have been running a lot of our foreign policy as a consultant, David Petraeus.
You know, he's there with KKR.
He doesn't get the play.
This year, you mentioned, for instance, we're going to take a break before we talk about this, that they give you the bullet points.
And the top two this time around, for those that do not know and have not checked it out, we'll go there really quickly, is state of AI and AI safety.
Changing faces of biology is something I also want to get into with you as well.
But when we talk about AI in particular, Sam Altman got his first Builder Bro invitation last year.
Not on the list this year.
And there's been some controversy, but at the same time, they're still at the forefront.
Open AI has now teamed up with Microsoft.
They just announced, I'm not sure if you saw it over the weekend, their partnership with the Atlantic.
So the Atlantic that's there, they've partnered with The Atlantic.
They've partnered with The Washington Post.
They've partnered with Vox Media, et cetera, to incorporate their articles into the authoritative sources of their AI engines.
So I want to get into the AI aspects when we come back because there are a bunch of representatives there.
But then did Altman get the cold shoulder?
Or maybe, just maybe, is he not on the official list and maybe at some of these sub-meetings?
That's some speculation.
We're going to take a quick break.
We got Charlie Skelton.
Again, if you haven't seen his Guardian article and really his body of work on this subject over the decades now, almost two decades.
I mean, we're going to make it there, Charlie.
I promise.
We're going to make it 20 years.
You've got to, because not only is it informative, but it does it with a wry, dark sense of humor that I am extremely appreciative of.
So we will be back with Charlie in a moment.
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AI.
All right.
Now, it was very much a part of last year.
Again, Altman, AI people down the line.
We all know about Peter Thiel.
We can get into Palantir and Alex Karp in a moment.
But Eric Schmidt is there.
New digital age.
This is 2013.
But I also noticed that he's supposedly not representing anybody.
They just had his key as former CEO of Google and Alphabet, right?
He's no longer with them, but he's got tons of positions within the National Security Council and the community, but he's not there on behalf of them.
What are your thoughts on AI and that growing narrative and how they're framing it within the meeting?
Well, on the subject of Eric Schmidt, he's got his Schmidt Futures organization.
And that spins off, that's a kind of way for him to channel his billions into creating other organizations which are always sitting on the fringes kind of between the Pentagon and Silicon Valley.
You know, he really does straddle that crossover very particularly.
And he, so he's set up this thing, and I've completely forgotten the name.
It's one of the Schmidt Futures kind of programs.
And so Nadia Shadlau, and she's Trump's former deputy national security advisor.
She's on the steering committee of Bilderberg.
She's one of the advisors to Schmidt.
So what they do a lot is you'll find out that people within the Bilderberg kind of inner circle appoint each other to different things.
So Peter Thiel appointed Mark Carney, the former governor of the Bank of England, to be on the board of his financial transactions company, Stripe.
And so, you know, they love little trusted handshakes.
And Shadlau is on the international advisory board of Santander, the host company of this year's conference.
But yes, so to get back to Schmidt and to AI, Schmidt's one of the earlier people within the Bilderberg inner circle, from the kind of tech community.
Craig Mundy from Microsoft was the first.
And Microsoft is actually growing, I think, in influence within Bilderberg because the CEO, Nadella, he joined the steering committee maybe a year or so ago.
And if you look down the list of people, they've got their president of, I don't know the exact title.
They're basically the head of research and their head of AI.
And yeah, so the AI crew this year are absolutely blue chip.
I mean, they're really the top people, you know?
So, you know, you've got Demis Hasavis from Google DeepMind, his former partner, who's now Silliaman, who's now running Microsoft AI.
You've got the head of Anthropic.
It just goes on and on.
And I mentioned, I said in my article, my Guardian article, that if you just took the AI people out and put, you'd think, my God, this is an extremely high-level AI conference.
And they're just a subset of this extremely, extremely high-level conference.
It's as high-level as it gets.
And let's get into the AI aspect.
So again, Doffner's been there a while now.
Open AI and Axel Springer Media Group, they announced their partnership all the way back in December.
Atlantic, the Atlantic, I believe they just did so a few days ago.
Same with the Washington Post.
Now, when we're talking about this, we're really talking about narrative management.
And I believe it was the 2018 conference where they discussed the post-truth world.
When I see this AI, and I'm not sure if you know what's going on in the States right now, but there was an executive order about 45 days ago now, almost two months ago, that went along with two other bills that had passed on AI.
And essentially, it created a new office for all of the government agencies and bureaucracies in the system, as well as corporate subsidies that are at a certain level.
It's called CAIO's Chief Artificial Intelligence Officers.
Now, they must, yes, if you don't know about, so let's see if we can pull this up from a friend.
HHS, there it is.
It's great.
It's great right here.
So we'll show you this.
Essentially, at the end of April, HHS named their CAIO and to be in accordance with this executive action right here, which we're going to talk about.
Let's see if that's where I was the last time, but right there.
So what this does, essentially, and NASA named theirs, it creates a government agency within all of these agencies and all these corporations that have full audits.
So in other words, anybody that's going to be your CAIO has to have a TSIC.
So in other words, a classification level of at least 15 or the equivalent.
So they have to be military industrial complex.
Now, it states in this there are going to be guardrails around AI, aka narrative and program management, and that they are going to be fully audited on their software and hardware progression, as well as all of their data.
Now, the only people that will be exempt from this audit are the Department of Defense and the Intel agencies.
And then they go through their subsidies, aka their contractors, that will also be partially exempt at times.
This will create a technopoly like no other.
And it'll also create narrative management.
That I don't know if you saw GPT 40's launch, the creepy her voice, and all that, but you haven't seen it yet?
Oh my God, bro.
That's too much.
Wait till you see it.
It's very unsettling.
Because AI has gotten to a point now that in real time, you're talking to something that sounds 90% human.
It's going to be with these authoritative sources.
And at the end of the day, Axel Springer has taken it more than just giving up their content.
They're using AI to write their content.
So it's going to be this circular AI writes the content, creates the narrative, then backs it up through the authoritative sources via AI.
I mean, you talked about Thiel.
CARP's another one in there.
And Palantir, that's the driving force via Five Eyes and the current military industrial complex.
I don't know if you've seen Carp.
Carp was basically at a military industrial complex CES last week talking about Palantir, talking about AI, and how we have to create AI so dangerous that it scares the bleep out of China.
So we're number one.
That's a pretty scary narrative, don't you think?
Yeah, well, I mean, I personally find Karp quite a scary gentleman.
I mean, you know, he's no fool, clearly.
But, you know, he's taken some positions on things.
You know, he's look, I'll be honest, he's fascinating.
The same way that Kissinger was fascinating.
You know some people, they are curiosities, you know, you know Hannibal Lichter was such a person um, but uh, so yeah, carp's always worth listening to.
But then he like he says things that sometimes you just rock, you rock you back on your heels, like that, but it also he could.
Just, he thinks he's a progressive, and I don't even I don't know quite what he means exactly by the word, like I don't know what the, what this.
I think he just means progressive in the sense of progress, literally like technical, pro technological progress, but he's just on the cusp of it or something like I.
I sort of think he just means that he also called himself, you know uh, he was criticizing the, the um uh, the anti-genocide camps and calling and saying like i'm the peace activist, they're the pro, you know i'm, i'm pro-peace and you know that argument.
Well, let's stop right there, because we now have mainstream media, at least on the, you know, I wouldn't say on the fringes, but at least admitting to the fact that, even though it's been denied by the IDF that they use the AI program Lavender, to target 35 000 terrorists, now nobody knows what the criteria for that is and if you don't think that lavender is coming out of the Peacenick programs of Palantir.
Where do you think it's coming from?
Of course they're the ones utilizing.
In fact, at that same conference he talked about the AI systems that they're utilizing in the Ukraine Russia conflict.
And again, all you have to do is dig below the surface and you realize that entire communications network is set up via MUSK and Starlink.
They have the highest disc concentration there and it's not just for communications.
They hook into the sidewinder and ghost drones that kill people.
On top of that, when Starlink gets launched, they get launched with uh Darpa's classified satellite program and on top of that I don't know if you saw this reporting.
It was out of Reuters about a month and a half ago.
You know Elon Musk.
He's so anti-establishment.
They just tapped him to build the next spy satellite system for the U.s government.
He's got that Defense Department contract.
Um, you're not seeing really a lot of uh Musk cohorts and this year you really didn't see any allies of Trump.
I noticed that um, where in the past we have seen at least some on the surface level.
I'll never forget.
Well, there is, there's one, there's one right, what's his name?
Uh, i'm gonna mispronounce it because I don't Lightheiser or Lightheiser or something like that.
He's on the board of Trump Media and I think he's been brought in as I think they wanted someone on their panel on um, on U.s.
Political landscape, or whatever exactly the session is called um, and uh, so he's.
I think they did bring one guy in.
Uh so yeah hello, the soccer games going on.
I think REAL Madrid has just scored.
So listen, let's talk about that for a second, because I remember in 2017 I think that's the last time we saw each other Charlie um, it was pretty Trump heavy.
There was like Five people within the Trump Administration.
Theale was his secretary of technology at the time.
You had Liddell McMaster.
I can't off the top of my head think of the last two.
But even in 2020, you had Pompeo and Kushner, right?
And maybe a couple other guys.
Maybe one guy this year.
And I do see a lot of, you know, technology and narrative management that are more in line with the quote-unquote other side, in my opinion.
And again, I don't think it's a right or left thing.
Obviously, I think that Schmidt on one side and Theo on the other are, you know, two sides of the same coin, the same agenda.
But at the same time, when you're talking American politics, like you said, there was one guy there, but nobody in like an official government position or even former position.
Yeah.
So I just wanted to mention one thing in terms of narrative management.
So the current head of the CIA, William Burns, briefly, very briefly turned up on the steering committee at Bilderberg just before he got offered the job, but then had to immediately resign from it.
So you have to remember, the current head of the CIA is inner circle Bilderberg.
He just can't attend because of the job.
Because there are certain things like the Sikorsky, who's now the foreign minister of Poland, resigned from the he's here this year, but he resigned from the steering committee because it's just too much of an open conflict of interest.
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They have to just go, look, I'm kind of impartial and I'm doing my, they have to try and, there's a few jobs they can't, they just can't take if they become too senior.
But that doesn't mean to say they're not part of the inner circle.
They just step away briefly.
So yeah, I just want to say about the so the so from the Biden administration this year, you've got a series of these National Security Council people and kind of cyber cyber security agency heads like Jen Easterly and you've got the deputy national security advisor.
So you've got some very senior people and they all seem to be from this general world of tech threats and cyber threats and you know kind of science challenges, et cetera, et cetera.
But there's a whole bunch of them have come over.
We got to take a break.
When we come back, I want to talk about the changing faces of biology because we also have Borla there.
You know, he's the Pfizer CEO.
No Moderna this year.
But at the same time, I want to emphasize when they say changing faces of biology or whatever it is, what do you mean?
Well, we're talking about biology.
We're talking about all life on the planet.
Who's changing it exactly?
We're going to take that break.
We're going to come back.
We got Charlie Skelton with us, riveting stuff on the scene of Bilderberg 2024 from Madrid, Spain.
Back after this with more making sense of the madness.
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We are with Charlie Skelton now.
Charlie, you know, obviously, we talked a little bit behind the scenes during the COVID 1984 nightmare in light of two missed Bilderbergs, by the way.
Who knows?
There was some, you know, weird stuff going out there via these other conferences that were virtual.
That's where the quote-unquote great reset started to be introduced with a lot of Builder players, whether it be Henry Kissinger, who recently passed or Eric Schmidt, who we've talked about.
But, you know, I often talked about how I felt like a lot of that agenda was transhumanist and introduction of mRNA technology, changing biologies, keeping us away from each other.
And now we've seen that movement.
Now, some people have woken up to the fact that maybe they didn't tell us the truth about what this mRNA technology was, but I see them pushing forward no matter what.
I mean, when the shot of the day with Jokovich winning in tennis is brought to you by Pfizer, the one guy that refused to go do it.
I mean, the irony is too much.
I know that you don't necessarily have the same kind of culture in Europe, but you can't turn on the television, whether it's real TV or like I'll be streaming because I'm forced to, the UFC later.
I guarantee there'll be pharma ads in there.
So when they talk about the changing faces of biology, Borla seems to be the guy, the Pfizer guy.
Are there any other people on the peripheral we should also be looking at?
Well, there's a guy, Eric Lander, who ran the Human Genome Project.
So I'm certain that he's got something to say about that.
And there's also the head, the director of the European Center for, I'm going to get the name wrong, infectious diseases, disease control, something like that.
But, you know, so, you know, I'm not exactly sure.
There's also a Spanish nanotech expert there.
So I don't know what exactly the changing faces of biology means.
What I find interesting about it is they've decided to, you know, all of the subjects are quite boring.
You know, they're boringly phrased generally about Middle East, you know, political, U.S. political landscape, something like that.
But the changing faces of biology is practically a little poem or something.
So it feels very speculative and open.
Like, you know, it's like they're just sort of going, let's just, let's talk about it.
And I'm sure that AI plays an important role in the changing faces of biology, as it does in everything.
You know, whether it's the future of warfare or, you know, China or whatever it is, it's there now.
And, you know, and it's interesting that Builder Blake's got two sessions on it.
But, you know, you can pick up little tidbits from the way they phrase things.
And the way they phrase the session on Ukraine is Ukraine and the world.
You know, they don't say Ukraine.
No, this is Ukraine and the world.
The world is involved in this conflict.
You know, I mean, they might as well just say Ukraine and World War III, but they all but say that.
Well, I'm hoping we can circumvent World War III, my friend.
I certainly don't want to go there.
But the way I always read it is when, you know, it's not put out there like the list is alphabetically.
So I always look at, you know, the top thing is probably the top things they're talking about.
And that's why you double down on AI.
Changing faces of biology, like you said, you could speculate wildly, but that's life on the planet.
That's whether or not we're talking about medications and Borla.
We could also be talking about genetically modified organisms, aka our food, our produce, etc.
And then the next thing underneath that and changing faces of, that's, I don't, again, I don't know what we're changing exactly, folks.
Very broad.
But then instead of climate change, they just say climate.
But it's the cleanup hitter.
And obviously, climate in various regards has been utilized as a suggestion or a mode of control for the populaces.
For instance, now King Charles during the COVID-19 44 nightmare wrote an entire article about how we need a Marshall Plan for the scourge of climate change in the States.
On my broadcast last night on my TNT radio show, I had no idea that this had passed, but it actually passed in Vermont.
It's absolutely insane.
It's basically saying that your carbon footprint is now subject to 30 years of audit, and you're going to have to pay on that footprint based on natural disasters that occur now, like floods, weather, et cetera.
You can't make it up.
I couldn't believe it.
So climate is really one of those control mechanisms.
They didn't even say climate change this time.
I think that's because you're starting to hear other words around there, like climate crisis is the new buzzword.
But when we talk about that and we talk about, you know, you talked about the king of Spain.
I can't believe we still have royalty, but we obviously do.
And they're obviously still powerful, everybody.
It's 2024.
I mean, these aren't Disney cartoons we're watching.
This is reality.
When you hear climate and you hear somebody like Charles putting that out.
And you hear, I mean, maybe some people haven't woken up to it after the demon painting they put out for the trailer of Ghostbusters movie.
But I mean, you can't, I mean, you can't make this stuff up.
I don't know that there's that many people that buy into their benevolence, but at the same time, there are enough people that are afraid of what they've projected via climate, where I feel like that's why this is at the top of the agenda.
And right before, by the way, future of warfare.
Yeah, look, you know, I mean, it's a massively contentious subject, climate.
But, you know, all I would say is that, you know, you talk about that and you talk about the changing faces of biology and the thing you mentioned in Vermont.
What you have to remember is that something like Bilderberg is there are extremely voracious investors, people that run huge asset management companies and big venture capitalists like Peter Thielen, who brought along his head of Teal Capital.
And they're always looking for, you know, the next big, often tech-based investment.
So, you know, as you mentioned about, you know, genetic modification, you know, they're going to be going, oh, sorry, we can, you know, we can trademark stuff, you know, we can copy.
What can we copyright?
You know, all of that kind of thing.
You know, so everyone, not everyone, there's a huge contingent within Bilderberg that are simply there for no other reason than to make a bug.
And, you know, I mean, they really are.
Their job titles might ask just CEO of a bank, you know, CEO of Deutsche Bank or the head of Xeno Partners, you know, which is a huge Geneva-based investment company.
And there's just investment company after investment company there.
And they're just there to sniff out investments.
And, you know, so which I always find problematic when you the way that Bilderberg would present itself is we're bringing everyone on board.
We've got all of our politicians, all of these thinkers and academics, and we're just trying to get everyone together to thrash out the important matters of the day.
But, you know, who are these people?
You look at them and you look at, oh, who's David Petraeus?
Never mind that he's the former director of the CIA.
He's also the head of the KKR Institute, which is just part of KKR.
The head of KKR, Henry Kravis is here.
It's just a huge and aggressive financial giant.
And so, you know, it's impossible to tease apart those two things.
You have to remember that it's all in together.
And, you know, public policy is there.
Financial investment is there.
You know, as you say, the military-industrial complex is there in spades.
The military is there.
You know, it's all there and at the very highest level.
Well, I would say that this is the example of stakeholder capitalism that's being projected by the World Economic Forum.
Now, to me, the World Economic Forum is very much a mouthpiece for the types of agendas that take place in this organization, much like the United Nations is also a mouthpiece for a lot of those agendas.
Now, Klaus Nutschwab, who gained notoriety over the last several years because of his Bond villain-like appearance and nature, is now stepping down as the official chair of that organization.
He'll still sit on the board somewhere.
But I also think that this is a rebranding.
And I wonder if someone either within this organization, this meeting this year, or one of their cohorts, etc., gets named as the head of the World Economic Forum because I think that they need a changing face.
And I wonder what that game plan is going to be.
I want to get your take on that after this break.
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And we are back with Charlie Scott.
And Charlie, a raucous soccer game going on in one of the places where soccer could not be bigger, by the way, Madrid, Spain.
We were talking about the World Economic Forum.
look, I think it's generally a good thing that the general populace really had no idea about the World Economic Forum until COVID hit.
And I think that one side, aka whether you were conservative, etc.
Started looking at what was going on and they saw them as the enemy and at least put it out in the nature that even on the peripheral, the other side is aware kind, of what the World Economic Forum is.
At the same time, these are the things I can tune into on C-span and I can watch them on youtube and these forums, and obviously there's some private media and meetings going on behind the scenes too, but it's not like this conference.
So Schwab is kind of an.
I mean, not only is he an abrasive character, he's got a thick German accent like I mean, they couldn't have gone more over the top.
What do you think the face of the World Economic Forum is going to look like Post-schwab, and is Bilderberg going to have an influence on that?
Well, I mean, it's a good question and first of all, i'd like to say that Schwab was mentored by Kissinger back in the mid 17th century or whenever they came to back in the Dracula days man, like they actually helped put the heads on the spikes for uh, lord Vladimir Dracul.
So yeah no, those days.
But that's, that's a joke folks um, and uh, uh.
So uh, it's interesting that you know Kissinger's gone in whenever it was november and and Schwab is at least stepping down and um, but it it's looking like.
Blair and the Incestuous Elite00:02:42
So the current president of the World Economic Forum is a guy called uh Brendborger, who's uh on the steering committee of Bilderberg unsurprisingly, and he's being tipped to jump up to executive chairman to to be like really the whole boss of the whole thing.
But there's also another name in the mix, which is Tony Blair.
Uh, the esteemed former prime prime minister of the United Kingdom.
Um, his name has been mentioned.
I I, I would be.
If I was the World Economic Forum, I wouldn't touch him with a bargepole, but you never know um uh, just on the subject of Blair, shout out to Lukewdowski for that interview with when he got Blair to admit that he'd lied to parliament about going to Bilderberg.
Yep, he just he just put a camera in his face and went.
So what was?
Did you enjoy Bilderberg when you went?
And he just didn't know how to.
He just said yes, it was very useful, having told parliament, having lied to parliament, that he hadn't gone right and he but, so anyway, but that sorry, that's a good example of the kind of journalism you have to do.
No, you know, you have to kind of just get into people's faces.
You have to get, you have to go places, you have to turn up and you know.
So you know, like we, we literally wouldn't know for a fact that Santander was bankrolling this, At least tonight's event, you know, and if we hadn't got and found that out, you know what I mean?
It's like it's we're having to do some real journalism here.
But anyway, so on the World Economic Forum, it's it, you know, they like to keep things in the family.
They're keeping, it's looking like they're keeping NATO in the family because Stoltzenberg is leaving very shortly, is looking like he's going to be replaced by Mark Ruther, the Dutch, the outgoing Dutch prime minister, who is a big favorite here, is always here.
And so, yeah, there's just a real swivel of chairs going, whatever the right expression is.
It's an openly incestuous relationship.
But again, because people don't really discuss this, you know, I was in the office of one of the heads of OAN News, if you're aware of what they are in the United States.
They're pretty right-wing.
They're supposedly alternative.
And this is a couple years back, and we're talking.
He didn't know anything about the Bilderberg group.
And then as I explained it to him, he goes, Oh, it's kind of like Davos, but private.
And I'm like, Davos is more like the mouthpiece for these people.
I mean, this is where the deals are cut.
And then they have something to talk about in the coming months.
Explained and Accepted00:03:07
You know, I want to go back to almost the beginning of the broadcast.
And I've noticed that you did not flee Spain.
I don't think Dan Dix fled Spain.
I'm pretty sure Josh probably did not flee Spain.
What were you detained exactly for?
What was the conversation like?
Because this isn't any of your first rodeos.
You know, you're kind of past the intimidation phase of this.
So what exactly did they say to you?
Well, I mean, basically, we got as close as we could have got.
There was no, it turns out there was no photographs to be taken because this thing was taking place inside this giant private campus or headquarters of a giant bank.
And so, and the security there was insane.
And, but we got literally as close as we could.
And yeah, we just came around this roundabout and then there's just a massive military police there.
And we just waved to the side.
And I was in my car, which I, because I'd driven here from Portugal, where I happened to be.
And I was just thinking, oh my goodness, they're going to impound the car.
I'm just not going to be able to get back home.
But they didn't.
And, you know, and from the beginning, it was extremely serious.
There was just lots of, you know, hands on guns.
You know, it was, it was, you know, it was real.
It was extremely tense.
And, yeah, and an extremely heavily armed mass of people just surrounded the car.
And, you know, we showed our documentation.
We explained and explained who we were.
And they were, you know, serious, you know, polite, but deadly serious.
And, you know, we had, we were taken out, sat at the side.
And, you know, eventually, when they worked out that we weren't there to murder the king of Spain or whoever happens to be there, they softened up a little bit.
But, you know, it was an intense, you know, 20 minutes, but then a slightly calmer 20 minutes.
But, you know, it's never, it's never, I wouldn't say it's on my to-do list at any point to be just stood over with a machine gun.
You know what I mean?
So that's not where I want to go around thinking, oh, well, I really want to just really, yeah, I really want to just see some guy's finger twitching on a yeah, yeah, no offense, Charlie.
You don't seem like the kind of guy that like jumps out of planes or needs that kind of rush.
You're not climbing buildings freestyle.
I'm not that kind of guy either.
And I tend to get upset when people have their hands on deadly weapons within my vicinity where I happen to be the unarmed adversary.
So, yeah, I could totally relate with you.
It's wrapping up.
Like I said, tomorrow, I'm sure you guys will be on the scene, but you're mostly going to see people exiting early morning, afternoon.
Cup Coffee Controversy00:06:28
What do you think some of the biggest takeaways are here at Bilderberg 2024 that we didn't discuss?
Well, we did a pretty good thorough job.
You know, I'm just, you know, I'm a quivering wreck at the moment after that, you know, so, but I'm fine, I'm fine.
But yeah, what did we discuss?
I don't know.
I mean, it's just, it's one of those things where you could just pick a name from the list and just talk about, oh, this is the nanotech expert.
Oh, this is the, you know, the director of this agency, or this is only, oh, look, this guy's the finance minister of this country.
And there's one thing I will say, which just is a little tiny thing, which is that, so the president of the Eurogroup is here, which is the group of finance ministers of the EU.
And so he's here, and he brought his press secretary, his press advisor.
And I just thought that's kind of funny because no one's making any statements to the press, but you know, still brought his press advisor to this completely buttoned up conference.
Well, I think that there's something to be said about PR all the way around, right?
So, you know, there's got to be, that's going to be one of the discussions.
He's probably in on the meeting on how they're going to have to sell a certain agenda to the European populace.
Whoa!
Whoa.
Okay.
I think we are just one Champions League.
I was going to say, that was like a random firework.
Yeah, I apologize for the use of the.
No, listen, we're going to take one last break.
We're going to have about six minutes left in the broadcast.
I want to get your take on Trump and the fact that he's just been found guilty, is more than likely going to be due in at least some prison time, something I predicted from the outset, and what that really means.
Because yes, U.S. economic challenges and political landscape is there, extremely broad.
Don't get hit by the barrage of fireworks that are now going off.
We're going to take that one last break.
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Explosions!
All right, this has been, like I said, not only one of the most important broadcasts that we've done this year, but one of the most fun on a multitude of levels.
It's great taking on the actual political elite, Trumski and Hutch, right?
I've been talking about the fact that if he was going to run for president, they were going to put him in jail.
A lot of people laughed at me.
He has now been found guilty in a kangaroo court.
There is no doubt in my mind that the max is four years.
He is going to get some prison time.
I think they are going to put him in jail.
What do you think that means, not only for the United States, but the rest of the world?
And how does that relate to this conference?
I don't know if I can master much of a concern of the fate of Donald Trump.
I really don't.
You know, I know for some people, he's, you know, the great fighter, the cleaner up of the swamp, and et cetera, et cetera.
I don't necessarily buy that.
I don't.
But I mean, I'm on the outskirts of this thing.
I look on and I just see a series of absolute lunatics.
And I sorry, I can't.
Listen, man, you're a comedy writer.
There's plenty of material here in the States right now, just politically.
There's no doubt about it.
And look, I don't think Trump is some kind of savior.
I do think that he didn't go along with a lot of their policies that were globalist and that was the main issue.
Also blew a lid on how corrupt the media was, right?
Otherwise, we wouldn't have gotten Russia Gate.
We wouldn't have got, again, if you had told me that they were going to impeach the man for the phone call he had with the Ukrainian prime minister about investigating bereasement and Hunter Biden after I watched Joe Biden next to Richard Haas laugh about withholding a billion dollars until the prosecutor that was investigating his son was fired never would have bought it.
Never would have bought it.
You know, again, I'm not a game show guy.
I don't think there's white hats behind the scenes that are going to save the world or that he drained the swamp in particular.
But I definitely think he challenged that system.
And maybe RFK Jr. is the better guy this time around.
I'm not sure.
I think it sets a horrible precedent that you've now, you're about to put the one president in jail that didn't commit enough war crimes.
And he still did go along with policies that I really didn't like in Syria.
But as far as ramping up wars and escalating the way I've seen them throughout my lifetime, it wasn't the same thing.
Thanking Twitter00:02:07
Charlie, I know you're about to run out of time.
Let everybody know where they can find you, where they can follow your work, and anything you'd like to leave the audience with.
Well, I mean, the piece, my Guardian piece went up today.
So have a look at that.
That gets into some of Palantir and Schmidt and drones and the future of war.
And so if you let's a nice cheery read for anyone.
And so, yeah, and there's that.
And, you know, we're all tweeting out here.
Look at the hashtag Bilderberg on Twitter because everyone's here.
We're all sharing images, footage.
You know, we're tipping people each other off.
You know, it's a real, it's, it's, you know, we're doing our best to sort of collaborate and share information and media and content.
And, you know, and my last thing would be, you know, next year we think it might be in Sweden.
There's good reason to think that.
So anyone up that neck of the woods, not the cheapest place to go.
Was gonna say that one's gonna be really pricey.
I better be doing good next year.
Maybe we'll wait for that one after that.
Um, yeah, I don't know.
I've always wanted to go, Charlie.
You're the man.
All right, I love you.
I really do.
I wish I could hug you right now.
Uh, yeah, I got to talk to dicks after this and freedom.
Seriously, man, yeah, listen, you're an inspiration.
Like, you know, I always tell people they got to be their own hero.
And I think that you know, 15 years ago when you had this first interaction, you kind of looked in the mirror and said, Yeah, but no one else is doing this.
Like, why is no one else doing this?
And you have been, and there's just so much to be said from that, especially when you realize the power structure you're going up against.
These are little players, they're the real deal, everybody.
Uh, if you're worried about the Gottis and the Capones and that type of gangsters of the world, I got news for you.
These guys beat them in spades.
Thank you, Mr. Skelton.
We appreciate you.
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Thank you.
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