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May 18, 2024 - Info Warrior - Jason Bermas

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Academic Exposes The COVID1984 Nightmare

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	Thank you for watching.
	We've got a great show lined up for you today.
	We've got author and academic Dr.
	David Hughes. We're going to be talking about his book, COVID-19, Psychological Operations and the War for Technocracy.
	You're not going to want to miss it.
	Making Sense of the Madness begins after this.
	And we are now joined by Dr. David.
	David Hughes. Thank you so much for joining us, sir.
	Before we get into the book, what were the first warning signs for you during the COVID-1984 nightmare that we were not being told the truth and this was moving in the wrong direction?
	For me, it came with the passage of the UK Coronavirus Act on March 23rd, 2020.
	This is a voluminous piece of legislation.
	It's almost 600 pages long.
	And it was magically ready to go.
	It was pushed very quickly through Parliament and received royal assent within a matter of days, if not hours.
	And for me, that reminded me very much of the USA Patriot Act and its passage after 9-11.
	So I could see a similar kind of modus operandi in play.
	So I was suspicious from the very beginning.
	So you're talking, you know, mid-March.
	That's about a week or so after the first lockdowns started in the United States via New York and then obviously others followed.
	These restrictions started as things that were said, oh, we're going to do two weeks to slow the spread.
	We're going to stay six feet apart.
	We're suggesting masks.
	We're not enforcing them.
	But as the weeks and months progressed, the authoritarian measures not only continued, they really began to ramp up.
	And obviously, this led to the vaccination program.
	Obviously, the alarm bells had gone off for me even prior to March, all the way back in January when it was first being reported.
	At first, I had dismissed it that this would be something much like the 2009 H1N1 scare,
	the swine flu, the bird flu, the WHO, attempting these authoritarian measures, but it not going
	anywhere.
	Oh, how wrong I was.
	Unfortunately, this was the real deal.
	And by February, from what I had seen globally, I knew it was coming to the United States
	and would go as far as they allowed it.
	When you started seeing restrictions on the type of medications that doctors were able
	to prescribe to their patients, you know, in this country alone, things like vitamin
	C, vitamin D being demonized, antibiotics not being able to be used.
	and the inability to question anything outside of basically remdesivir, dextromethasone, and ventilators, that was extremely alarming.
	Did you see those same things in Europe?
	Yes, we did. And instead of remdesivir, we had the midazolam scandal in the United Kingdom, similar principles.
	The concerning thing for me right from the very beginning was that the so-called vaccine was being presented as, in inverted commas, the way out and indeed the only way out.
	So you could see that the entire kind of propaganda psychological operation was geared, for whatever reason, To getting as many people as possible to take these things.
	And Bill Gates was coming out with this very strongly in April 2020 when he, you know, the idea, you know, we want to get everybody on Earth to take this shot, which at the time, of course, hadn't even been developed.
	And there was, I mean, to do this in nine months, it can't possibly pass any adequate safety tests in terms of long-term safety data.
	So I could see immediately that there's something extremely nefarious and underhand about all of this.
	And of course, when you layer on the additional censorship, which ramps up very, very quickly, quickly trying to cancel, downplay, shadow ban, etc., any dissenting voices, the whole thing starts to look extremely authoritarian.
	So you just mentioned Bill Gates in his tour de force during this nightmare in April of 2020.
	Now a lot of people do not remember some of the interviews from that time period.
	I certainly do. Because it was there that Bill Gates was telling you you were going to take Multiple shots, two to three out of the gates.
	It was there. Bill Gates was telling you that these shots were not going to prevent anything, and instead they were going to, as they said, lower hospitalization and death.
	And then he talked about second and third generation mRNA shots after the fact.
	He also talked about the idea of boosters.
	And really, one of the most alarming aspects of this is not only Bill Gates passed with vaccinations, but that these were not traditional vaccinations.
	In fact, they were not defined as such until the COVID-1984 nightmare.
	Until then, they were defined as mRNA gene therapy.
	And in large part in this country, they were developed with DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency, in a partnership with Moderna that really started in 2013 and then gradually became The Strategic mRNA Collaboration, which is still on Moderna's own website, with players like AstraZeneca, just pulled their shot.
	BARDA, of course, DARPA. You had the Institute Pastor.
	You had Gabby. You had the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
	Really, all of the players that did play big roles in this entire rollout.
	Yes, indeed. And I get into all of that in chapter eight of the book.
	Certainly, the so-called vaccines don't meet any conventional or traditional definition of a vaccine.
	And indeed, the WHO was even messing about with the definition of a vaccine in the autumn of 2021.
	So again, another kind of warning sign there.
	What's very significant about what you highlight is in particular the role of agencies such as DARPA in all of this, and of course Operation Warp Speed, which even publicly it's known that the military had a key hand in that.
	But when you then dig deeper and you look into the work, for example, of Sasha Latapova and Catherine Watt, you find that actually what we seem to be dealing with here is not a public health or pharmaceutical affair.
	But rather a military operation.
	How is it possible to manufacture so many vials in the first place?
	How is it possible to have done all of this?
	It requires a significant degree of pre-planning And again, what I argue in the book is that the COVID-19 crisis was nothing like what we were told, that in fact staggering levels of deception were involved, and that the only reasons for trying to get whatever is in these shots into as many people as possible, it can only be nefarious.
	In a previous article called What is in the so-called COVID-19 Vaccines?
	Evidence of a Crime Against Humanity.
	I review the findings of 26 different research teams around the world who've actually looked at the contents of the shots and of patients' blood, vaccinated patients' blood, under the microscope, and the findings are quite horrific actually.
	I won't say any more than that for the present time, but there's certainly good reason to believe that these things are nothing like what we were told.
	Well, I would agree with you 100% there.
	And I've always stayed away from saying exactly what is in these shots because I'm not a molecular biologist.
	I don't necessarily know what I'm looking at.
	I also know there was a multitude of shots put out there just publicly from the mRNA to the vector-based.
	To the ones available in different countries.
	So I do think there were different batches there.
	But the one thing that does stand out is that this is bio nanotechnology and it was the first time it was used on a level such as the one we saw where it was injected in billions of people.
	Now there's two points I want to hit here.
	How they did change the definition of what a vaccination was to include mRNA shots.
	Peter Doshi of the British Medical Journal spoke out about this rather loudly, actually.
	And he gave about a seven or eight minute presentation laying out the fact that if I told you that these things didn't stop it, Didn't have an annotated version of the virus.
	How is this the definition for a vaccine?
	Why are we changing these things?
	And that was largely ignored and banned via social media, as so many other things were banned via social media.
	When you have authoritative sources or entities challenging the establishment narrative, especially in this case, they were either demonized or criminalized, sometimes both.
	Isn't that the case? It is.
	Yeah, absolutely. And I mean, traditionally, a vaccine, the whole point of it is to confer immunity.
	But by the new definitions of these shots, it's simply to stimulate some kind of immune reaction.
	I mean, that could be a bad reaction as far as you know.
	It could involve inflammation and all kinds.
	So, yeah, I mean, why are they trying to redefine this?
	It seems to me that when you look at it from a different lens and you look at it from more of a military lens, The project here to be able to deliver these things inside human bodies does speak very powerfully to the bio-nano dimension that you mentioned.
	So again in chapter 8 of the book I go into this in quite some depth and look back at military intelligence documents
	and indeed other government department documents, US government department in particular documents,
	going back all the way to the turn of the millennium.
	And what you find is that over 20 years ago they were writing about what they called the IT bio nano era.
	Yes they were!
	Are you talking perhaps about the future strategic warfare document of 2025 by NASA, where they lay all of this out?
	Yes. And they also, this is a July 2001 document.
	This is a PowerPoint. It comes in two flavors.
	It is written by the chief scientist at the time, Dennis Bushnell.
	And in the very lead, which is extremely alarming, is that they predict 20 years in the future, in 2020, the bio-nano era of humanity will occur.
	is the virtual era, and they don't quite have a timeline on that yet, but throughout the document, they talk about cross-molecular breeding, they use the term directed evolution, and Bushnell went out, and I actually covered him yesterday when I hosted the fourth hour of InfoWars, playing some of his videos, because a lot of people Are not familiar with this guy.
	They should be. He just resigned as the chief scientist last summer.
	He'd been around since the Gemini days, folks, pre-Apollo, and worked with the National Security Council.
	He was their rep. Okay, so this is a guy, I mean, that literally is on the pulse of bio-nanotechnology, telling you 20 years prior when they're going to roll it out, and then...
	Magically, 2020 is the first time this is rolled out for human beings.
	I'm sorry I interrupted you.
	Please continue. I'm glad you did because I couldn't have said it any better myself.
	What you say there is absolutely accurate in every respect.
	And for viewers and listeners who might want to know more about Bushnell in this context, I'd also recommend a four-part series that I've co-authored with Dan Barody and Lisa Johnson, which is coming out at the moment.
	The first three parts are already available on propagandainfocus.com.
	And it's a four-part series on transhumanism.
	And we get into Bushnell, among others, in this series.
	And these extraordinary forecasts that were made not only in that document, but we go through a whole series of military intelligence documents from the 21st century.
	And what emerges is a very clear project.
	To essentially create a form of bio-nanotechnology which can go inside the human body and communicate with an external network.
	That's the IT part of the IT bio-nano era.
	So this isn't happening by accident.
	It's all entirely by design.
	It's all completely pre-planned.
	They've been wanting to do this, as I say, for the entire 21st century.
	And then when you go into, for example, the work of Charles Lieber and some of the technologies which he's patented and published his findings on, I mean that's just one scientist among many, you can find that actually over the course of these last two decades there have been real There's no progress made in terms of developing the actual technologies.
	So it's no longer just a vision or a desideratum.
	There's actual proper neuroscience technologies being developed to do this.
	When you dig into the DARPA documents, as I do in Chapter 8 of the book, Again, you can see that DARPA has been working very hard on this.
	Then there's all kinds of questions to ask about the role of graphene and the EU graphene flagship project in 2013 is a good example there, but this is a revolutionary new substance.
	Only one atom thick, essentially two-dimensional, yet has extraordinary properties such as superconductivity, incredible tensile strength and so on.
	So they are advertising these kinds of technologies as being able to do great good for the world.
	For example, creating neural nets that might be able to help with, say, Parkinson's disease.
	They often market them in terms of cures for cancer, etc.
	But what I argue in the book is that there is a tremendous potential here for these to be dual-use technologies.
	And if placed in the wrong hands, and I think they will be, given the kind of Global disrespect for medical ethics since 2020.
	Then we're looking here at a potential weapon system which could be used to target individuals right down to the level of their bodily organs to monitor and surveil them.
	And, you know, who knows what else they could do?
	You know, there's a possibility for remote control torture, remote control assassination.
	It really doesn't bear thinking about.
	And this is what we have to stare straight in the face now.
	I mean, this is pure evil and we have to face it.
	Absolutely. We are living in the bio-nano era.
	And anytime that you implement the military into anything, guess what folks?
	They don't have to tell you the truth.
	It is inbuilt.
	There's a term called plausible deniability for a reason, and they use the tools of compartmentalization to keep many of these people who are working on these projects in the dark for the most part.
	We've got to take a break. When we come back, I want to hone in on Charles Lieber because a lot of people are unfamiliar with his work and the importance surrounding this entire topic.
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	The book is COVID-19, Psychological Operations and the War for Technocracy.
	Author David Hughes is with us.
	Now, David, you mentioned Charles Lieber.
	Now, I myself obviously have looked into this.
	This was kind of on the peripheral during the beginnings and just before the COVID-19 84 nightmare really kicked off.
	But this was a professor That was supposedly working with Chinese spies that were his students and he was arrested and I do believe he was prosecuted as well.
	What do we know about Lieber, the criminal charges and the research surrounding these charges?
	Well, I'm not so up on the criminal charges themselves, but it's certainly very noticeable that a figure of this caliber should be caught up in something like this.
	What I'm more familiar with is his academic research, and it's quite extraordinary, actually, the kinds of things that he's been involved in.
	If you go back to 2001, He was involved in the development of a kind of liquid computer.
	So if you spilt out a flask of liquid, it would contain this computer essentially within it that would be able to self-assemble.
	So this was 2001, almost a quarter of a century ago now.
	These kinds of technologies, the liquid computing technologies, were already well underway at that point.
	So lest there be any doubt, That such things could potentially be developed and inserted within human bodies.
	We have to kind of see this kind of long arc of history here.
	Lieber, again, another significant intervention he made was in 2011 when he was able to develop a transistor which was small enough To be able to be inserted into individual human cells.
	So this, I argue in the book, seems to have been the moment where this kind of IT bio nano vision starts to become a technological reality because there's actually existing technologies now which can be planted inside the human body, which can be used to connect with an external network.
	And from that point, as I say, with DARPA and the EU graphene flagship and much else besides, we can really see this being pushed forward very fast.
	You mentioned previously the role of Moderna as well.
	I've got a long section on Moderna in Chapter 8 and the...
	The completely implausible rise of a company like Moderna never had a viable product.
	Even as late as the summer of 2020, its SEC filings were saying that there's no chance of achieving profitability ever, essentially, unless something would happen with this so-called COVID vaccine.
	And then lo and behold, it becomes one of the major COVID vaccines in the US and around the world.
	Moderna suddenly becomes this incredibly profitable company.
	But when you trace back its origins back to 2013 and you see its ties to DARPA, to the World Economic Forum and so on, to me, again, it looks like very much a kind of deep state operation.
	And I suspect that these so-called mRNA vaccines, which they now want to replace conventional vaccines, may in fact be a cover for something else, namely military technologies.
	You know, I'd have to agree with you.
	And again, I'm always extremely hesitant of what I put out there via what is exactly in the shots and what they're doing, other than the fact that is bio-nanotech.
	That was molecularly printed, and that's another thing that is lost on most people.
	These shots were printed in large part between a partnership with CureVac and Tesla.
	A lot of people think, oh, Tesla's a car company.
	We love Elon Musk.
	He's the best thing since breakfast.
	Well, your rogue Elon Musk during the COVID-1984 nightmare made a 600% increase in his wealth.
	He did better than everybody.
	He did better than Gates.
	He did better than Sergey Brin.
	He did better than Warren Buffett, who's in the news today.
	And in large part, he did that through printing up these shots that later on he'd say he was injured from.
	Now, I'm not even sure these people took him.
	I'm not sure that people like Chris Cuomo took him.
	I don't believe it. But I do believe that he made a ton of profit by partnering.
	And the other thing is that even prior to that, Musk's companies really made him the number one DOD contractor out there.
	This multitude of companies out there from SpaceX, which, guys, we're not going to the moon.
	We're not going to Mars.
	No, we're launching Starlink and the DARPA equivalent, the spy satellite system, Blackjack, and their Mandrake satellites.
	That's the main purpose of that.
	Tesla, again, a subsidized EV company.
	There were EV companies before.
	This isn't a profitable company.
	It's pushed forward. It's also, aside from printing these shots, working on the quote-unquote humanoid optimist robot.
	Then you look at his other companies.
	The boring companies, not about flamethrowers, everybody.
	I know it's cute and it looks funny.
	No, they're digging and building underground facilities that are used by the military industrial complex and their contractors.
	Everything that this guy does, including Neuralink and that company, is in line with the type of things that you see in these white papers that are taking us through this bio-nano IT era into what they hope is the virtual era, correct? Yes, and I think that, I mean, Musk has his finger in many pies, all of them, as you rightly point out, interconnected and nefarious.
	My take on Musk is that he's a kind of a front man, a PR figure that is designed to...
	Kind of provide a public face for what is essentially the development of transhumanist technologies.
	So it's very significant. I mean, not only this kind of censorship function via X, Twitter, but in particular Neuralink in this context and indeed the Starlink project, because what we could potentially be looking at here Is a 5G or other form of EMF system globally from which there is no escape if these satellites indeed are able to completely fill the skies and this isn't the only company trying this.
	And again, the idea of being able to interface directly with people's brains is quite disturbing.
	Now, what I see in the Neuralink project is, and I argue this in the book, it actually looks in many ways quite clunky.
	It's kind of presenting the idea of being able to insert a chip into the brain You know, some kind of revolutionary, kind of futuristic technology.
	They claim it involves, you know, drilling holes in people's heads, you know, kind of quite old ways of performing surgery, really.
	But what's interesting here is that a few years ago, he did do an interview where he mentioned that in principle, these kinds of technologies could be inserted straight into the bloodstream via a syringe.
	I think that was back in like 2017 or something.
	So it seems to me that the public is being encouraged to see this kind of thing as incredibly far in the future and a bit sci-fi and a bit kooky and, you know, not very realistic necessarily.
	Whereas the more terrifying reality, I think, is that far more advanced technologies have potentially already been developed and may well have already been inserted under the skin of a reported 5.5 billion people.
	So, the modern-day godfather of transhumanism, Ray Kurzweil, is on record for many, many years.
	In fact, you can watch a video of him from, I believe, 2006 discussing the ideas of swarms of nanobots within our bloodstream and our physical system that are actually able to turn off our senses and put us into a virtual world that seems real.
	Obviously this is invasive, but not surgically invasive as you just alluded to.
	And if people think that's far off technology like you said, I would like people to understand that we are already utilizing internet of body technologies.
	One of the ones that I've recently featured is MySite technology, M-Y-C-I-T-E. And it has been incorporated in things like Abilify, which is your antidepressant for when your antidepressants don't work.
	So Abilify has been around for a long time.
	They recently incorporated into the MySite system, which means the pill you take actually has a Bluetooth sensor that is incorporated to let your medical professional know you took your medication.
	And one of the things that they really try to highlight and play up with this human brain interface technology is the idea of PTSD and mental health.
	And that is extremely worrisome because, number one, they always kind of try to bring it in as a benevolent way, right?
	One of the first things they said, oh, we're going to make the people that can't walk, walk again.
	And they tried to show you the pig with the two chips.
	Again, very clunky, very convoluted.
	Who knows what they have behind closed doors, but their presentation to me wasn't that impressive.
	But when you get into the arena of mental health, really all bets are off because it is so open to interpretation.
	After all, I can't believe they even convinced anybody in the general public to take a handful of pills and that's not enough.
	Let's take another one on top of it and add Bluetooth to make sure you take it.
	Kind of discuss that, where we are right now with the internet of body technologies and where they'd like to take it.
	Well, again, Regina Dugan was discussing this quite openly on a public platform, this idea of using medication in inverted commas, which can in fact be tracked and traced and your doctor can know exactly have you taken it or not.
	Now, I mean, again, if you kind of wrap it up in a kind of health banner, it can be made to sound good somehow.
	But again, just think about what that really means in terms of being able to deliver technologies into the human body, not just in terms of injections, but also pills now.
	For all we know, there are other means, smart dust, whatever may be coming through the drinking water, whatever's going into food.
	I mean, the kind of environmental contamination is a key part of this transhumanist agenda.
	It's a key part of the IT bio-nano era.
	And in terms of mental health and prescribing pills for it and so on, This goes back many, many decades and in chapter two of the book I go back to the origins of the psychiatry profession as it now exists after World War II and the influence of the Tavistock Institute and John Rawlings-Reese in regard to this.
	And I do discuss the kind of increasing levels of kind of mass medication in the United States and elsewhere.
	And ask some critical questions about that.
	But the key point about the origins of that profession under John Rawlings Rees was that psychiatry here was not being seen as a form of health delivery.
	It was conceived very much as a form of social control.
	And it received significant backing from, for example, the Rockefellers.
	So when you see again this kind of long arc going back many decades of manufacturing mental health conditions or ways of making people suffer and then prescribing pills for it, I mean all of this is It's a very frightening mechanism, potentially, for abusing public health and actually using it as a mechanism for social control.
	So let's talk smart dust.
	That's not something most people are familiar with, yet it is a technology that's been around for decades and utilized publicly for decades.
	When I bring it up, number one, it's extremely hard on the scrubbed internet to find any viable information about smart dust history.
	But you basically have this network of unseeable bio micro technology that creates kind of a map You know, I always tell people, remember that first Batman with Morgan Freeman where he turns it on, he's got the full surveillance and it kind of looks a little wonky.
	That's a good example of what they try to utilize it for.
	Now, Annie Jacobson, who's done some really great work, Area 51.
	DARPA, the Pentagon's brain, etc., also did a book called First Platoon.
	And in First Platoon, they discuss this technology being utilized in the War of Terror and how they almost killed the wrong targets because, again, it's not like you're getting a picture of these people or you know exactly who they are.
	They almost killed a bunch of farmers, essentially.
	Don't worry. They killed plenty of farmers in the War of Terror.
	They didn't get them all, everybody.
	But, you know, utilizing this, why don't more people...
	Know what smart dust is?
	And is there any way to mitigate this technology?
	Because it is invisible to the human eye.
	Well, I have no idea about methods of mitigation.
	I really wish that I could answer that.
	The smart dust itself, to the extent that it actually exists, and I can't say for sure whether or not it does, but what I can say Is that if you go back to a book that Klaus Schwab wrote in 2016, so eight years ago now, he's openly discussing there the possibilities of smart dust to, as you say, essentially be able to map out the entire landscape.
	So in the context of everything else that's happening, And in the context of trying to refashion the entire world, essentially, in this grotesque, synthetic, transhumanist vision, it makes contextual sense to me that they would be trying to do this.
	Now, I've been involved with Antonietta Gatti, for example, a world-leading nanoparticle scientist over the last 18 months, two years.
	And her work has been extremely interesting.
	And she has, for example, subjected some of the rainwater that has fallen where she lives to microscopic and spectroscopic analysis and has found all kinds of components that should not be in there.
	Similar is true, incidentally, of the so-called COVID-19 vaccines.
	A whole array of toxic heavy metals have been discovered via spectroscopic analysis.
	And then we of course have to ask questions about the state of the skies at the moment.
	Again, anyone with a functioning pair of eyes who is immune to the propaganda Can look up and see for themselves that there's something badly wrong.
	So here in the UK, it's supposed to be springtime.
	Wait, let's just stop. David, I don't know what you're talking.
	Those are just condensation trails.
	Those are water, bro.
	I made a film called Shade the Motion Picture, released in 2013, talking about the geoengineering programs and the solar radiation management projects, and basically what you could document in line with this very, very apparent new phenomenon in the sky.
	In that same film, I warned people about Bill Gates that he would do exactly what he did 10 years later, everybody.
	I mean, again, go watch the film.
	It's free online. But why is it?
	You know, we got to take a break. But when we come back, I want to talk about that phenomenon.
	Why is it people can't believe their own eyes?
	Even to this day, you know, you mentioned X and it's supposed to be the free speech platform.
	You will get a fact check posting anything about prolonged jet contrails or weather modification, solar radiation management.
	If you do not lie to yourself in the world and say, nope, just water, just condensation trails.
	We're going to take that break.
	The book is COVID-19 Psychological Operations and the War for Technocracy.
	David Hughes is our guest.
	We'll be back after this.
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	David Hughes. Let's talk about this deniability that seems to work on a large part of the populace.
	They don't want to talk about chemtrails, quote unquote.
	They don't want to talk about weather modification.
	They don't want to look up in the sky, clearly see a team of three to six planes covering the sky for hours at a time, We're good to go.
	I don't want to get into politics.
	I think it's a slimy business.
	Most politicians are the most horrible people you could ever imagine.
	I'm sure you've come across them.
	I moved to Iowa during the COVID-1984 nightmare from upstate New York because of the restrictions.
	I often wonder to myself, if I were able to run successfully for governor and get it, could I even stop these programs?
	Because once again, they're often military-run and kind of outside of the purview of our traditional constitutional republic.
	Absolutely right. It's extremely interesting when you listen to experienced pilots like Dan Hanley when he's interviewed about this.
	And he says, never in his 30-year career as a commercial pilot Was he exposed to any evidence that this alleged spraying of chemicals was real?
	And so you might think, well, okay, you know, maybe it's not.
	But again, what we're looking at at every level here are military operations.
	I call them deep state military operations.
	And again, I've explained that term in some detail in my next book, which is called Wall Street, the Nazis and the Crimes of the Deep State.
	So it is a useful term.
	Now, how does it all remain hidden?
	One of the concepts that I and my co-authors, Dan Brody and Lisa Johnson, have got into is the idea of hiding things in plain sight.
	And this has very much, it goes hand in hand with military and intelligence agency history.
	Of when you are conducting an operation, you need to be able to throw as many people off the scent as possible.
	So it also links to the big lie concept.
	So for example, if you are trying to refashion the world in this transhumanist image for purposes of totalitarian social control, If you package the initial campaign in that, in the form of a public health crisis, and you use military grade propaganda to saturate the minds of the population day and night with public health messaging, Then it's simply inconceivable to most people that anything else could be going on.
	You know, if the choice is always between Coke and Pepsi and Coke and Pepsi and Coke and Pepsi, whoever thinks about a third form of cola?
	This is how propaganda works, the power of repetition.
	And it gets into people's brains so that once they've been indoctrinated in this manner, it becomes inconceivable to them that other things could be happening.
	And even when presented with evidence, even if it's entirely factual, rational, even if it comes from official sources, and let's not forget, they, in their own official sources, have an awful lot about geostratospheric evidence.
	Engineering. Gates and others have talked quite openly about blocking out the sun and all of this.
	It doesn't matter how much evidence you put in people's faces.
	Because once they have undergone that level of indoctrination, they simply won't see it.
	So this is the power of the psychological operation that we're up against, that people will sooner believe what the government and the media tell them than the evidence of their own five senses.
	So when you talk about psychological operations, and especially the COVID-1984 nightmare, I often go to Edward Bernays, the godfather of both public relations and the author and creator of the term propaganda.
	Because overall, that's what we were receiving time and time again.
	From beginning to end.
	You know, whether it was, again, two weeks to slow the spread, or six feet apart, or alone together, or safe and effective.
	These are buzzwords and terms with literally no real meaning other than to corral you into the great narrative that they're propagandizing you with.
	Yeah, absolutely right. And it goes hand in hand with thought-terminating cliches like anti-vaxxer and covidiot and all of this kind of thing.
	Denier. They love to throw denier on there if you dare question anything.
	Oh, it's always denier, isn't it? Yeah, that's one of their go-to phrases for sure.
	And again, the kind of pseudoscience that was kind of being propagated at the time was nothing more than propaganda.
	So in the UK, for example, the idea of another lockdown was sold as a circuit breaker.
	You know, it's just scientifically meaningless.
	It's absolutely garbage.
	The BBC had a propaganda piece, I think, trying to talk about the different non-pharmaceutical interventions, almost like layers of Swiss cheese.
	So even if each one has holes in it, if you have enough of these layers, eventually you'll stop the virus from getting through.
	I mean, it's absolute garbage.
	But the more troubling aspect of this is that the propaganda...
	It was just kind of one part of it.
	And the whole thrust of my book here is to argue that it's something much worse, because of course propaganda has been used to indoctrinate Western populations for at least the last century.
	But what we're looking at since 2020 is all-out psychological warfare against the population, and that goes far beyond mere propaganda.
	That involves attacks on the mind, or what Joost Melo in 1956 called the rape of the mind, or menticide, you know, attempts to break down proper You know, let me stop you.
	Correct me if I'm wrong, but that term mendicide really predated quote-unquote brainwashing, correct?
	Like that was the first thing that they had there.
	And then during the Korean War, they adopted the brainwashing terminology as a sort of propaganda.
	I think it's basically the same period is what we're looking at.
	So the Korean War was 1950 to 1953, and Merlot's book was 1956.
	So I think they're all fundamentally dealing with the same kind of set of ideas here, as indeed were the Soviets, you know, when you look at the work of Pavlov and Pavlovian conditioning and so on.
	But of course, this was also the era of MKUltra, And what Ewan Cameron, a leading psychiatrist at the time, who was involved with the MKUltra program, he called it de-patterning of the mind.
	Which they did at McGill University in Canada.
	Yes. International operation.
	And not only did they do the de-patterning there, a lot of the tools that they used to quote-unquote de-pattern would show up later in places like Guantanamo Bay, where you would literally use sensory deprivation, put the oven mitts on, put the clothes, put the masks on, and then bombard them with the same stimuli over and over again.
	That stimuli, folks, sometimes being Barney's I love you, you love me, we're a happy family, over.
	And over and over and over again until you are literally driven crazy.
	We've got to take another break.
	When we come back, I want to get more into those aspects of mind control and where he thinks that they are in the modern day.
	more Making Sense of the Madness with David Hughes after this.
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	David Hughes. You were talking MKUltra, you and Cameron, de-patterning, all things that I've covered over the years because they are so essential to where we are today.
	Of MKUltra, people don't understand.
	First of all, they don't understand a lot outside of the LSD proponent that has been kind of projected out there.
	They don't hear a lot about the de-patterning.
	They also don't hear about the universities that were working with the U.S. government, as well as modern-day pharmaceutical companies.
	So where are we in the modern day when we're talking about social engineering and mind control?
	Right, so what I take great pains to try to lay out in chapters two and three of the book in particular, is the fact that these very dark techniques to try and gain control of people's minds, which were being developed certainly after World War One, when it was realised that shell shock Victims of shell shock were more psychologically malleable than ordinary people, but especially...
	And David, I just got to stop you again.
	Shell shock later on becomes PTSD. You talk about Bernaysian language.
	You know, George Carlin used to have a great bit on this.
	He used to be shell shock, shell shock, and you'd understand they had war trauma.
	And then they softened post-traumatic stress disorder.
	Sorry for the interruption.
	Continue. No, you're absolutely correct because what's happened here and what I try to show readers of my book Is that techniques which were first trialled on individuals, often in these very dark contexts such as MKUltra, have over time, particularly involving the influence of the Tavistock Institute and intelligence agencies, been gradually applied to groups and then entire societies.
	So, Naomi Klein, for example, alludes to some of this in her book, The Shock Doctrine.
	So here we are, the shock concept again.
	But she relates it to what she calls disaster capitalism.
	And these moments of great shock in a society, it could be a war, it could be a coup, it could be a flood or a hurricane, that can be exploited in the interests of capitalism.
	But we see it again, for example, with 9-11, this moment of enormous shock, and it kind of creates this Blank canvas in which all of the old rules are suddenly overwritten and the next thing you know is all of the propaganda about terrorism and the war on terror and we must do this and we must do that.
	And as I argue in the book, the lockdowns in 2020 were themselves a form of shock and awe operation designed to really disorient people through the isolation and so on and the deprivation of Ordinary kind of social support networks and so on.
	So when you're talking about PTSD now, I cite Mary Holland in chapter one of the book, and one of the points she makes, she's involved with children's health defense, is that anyone who has lived through the COVID era could reasonably be forgiven for feeling that they suffer PTSD. Because what was done to entire populations was deliberately traumatic.
	It was meant to traumatise in order to be able to kind of start that de-patterning process and to render the population more vulnerable and more malleable and more likely to go along with this attempted transition from democracy to technocracy.
	And what do you consider technocracy?
	Because I don't even love using that term.
	I always talk about technopolies.
	I think the largest and most egregious example of a technopoly would obviously be Alphabet that owns Google, Google being the number one search engine in the world.
	The number two search engine in the world is YouTube, which happens to also be the number one video platform in the world.
	They also have the number one operating system on most devices if you combine Android and Chrome.
	And then there's a multitude down the line because this is a shell company.
	And Google itself was seed funded by In-Q-Tel, the CIA investment arm.
	So this is, in my opinion, a military industrial complex company.
	Just because it's sold on the stock market, they, oh, it's a capitalist company.
	No, it's a technopoly.
	It also has a multitude of military industrial complex contracts.
	It was the first to censor.
	And Donnie T was up there talking about the partnership with Google and other social media companies to get the right information out there.
	And then you also look at Google's partnership with NASA. You know, we discussed Bushnell, but NASA and Google together have been in partnership of AI and quantum computing for well over a decade.
	And back in 2019, they claimed quantum supremacy.
	We don't really know where they are right now.
	Those were D-wave systems, quantum annealing.
	There's certainly other technologies out there, but they've worked arm-in-arm, hand-in-hand.
	And to me, this is a biotechnofascist technopoly system.
	Yeah, I'd be inclined to agree with that latter assertion.
	Again, in the book, I get into the fact that the big kind of tech companies that you mentioned and the intelligence agencies are one and the same, and they have been from the very beginning.
	And even when you trace the origins back to the ARPANET, which was the precursor of the internet, that arises in 1969.
	It comes straight after, for example, Operation Phoenix in Vietnam.
	And it seems to be, as Case van der Pael argues in his book, State of Emergency, was designed from its very inception with a counter-revolutionary So all of that said, I still think that's slightly different from the technocracy idea, which I think is even more encompassing.
	I mean, in very simple terms, we're looking at a form of scientific dictatorship in which everybody and everything can be monitored and controlled.
	And society can be scientifically managed by a small elite of self-proclaimed technocrats.
	So this is an opposite vision from liberal democracy and valuing human freedom and so on.
	The idea initially goes back to the 1930s and the corridors of Columbia University.
	And back then it was seen as a response to the Great Depression and the booms and busts of capitalism.
	And the problems of having supply and demand determining price.
	So the thought was that if everything can be priced according to its energy cost of production and use, that would create a better system.
	Now, the thing is, you need the relevant technologies in place to be able to introduce a system like that.
	And they didn't have them 100 years ago, but we do today.
	And they go under the name of SMART. Anything SMART is about being able to kind of link everything together on this technocratic control grid.
	But of course, there will be the controllers at the top.
	And this is what they're trying to fashion now.
	It's essentially a form of global scientific dictatorship.
	And what's really worrying about this, again, you can see these ideas were traced through the mid-20th century with Aldous Huxley and Bertrand Russell and Zbigniew Brzezinski and others.
	You can see its incubation in China with Rockefeller funding.
	To deliver what Ian Davis has called the world's first TechNate.
	It seems the model, the idea now is to roll out that Chinese model involving all the social credit scoring and so on to the West.
	What's very troubling about this is if they pull it off and if they manage to fashion this global technocracy, we are fundamentally looking at a system of human enslavement in which they will have direct control over everything, not just our money, but also our bodies.
	And furthermore, as critics have warned for decades, it could also be potentially irreversible.
	So that's really why I'm trying to sound the alarm as loudly as I can at this point, because we are on a precipice here.
	It is the ultimate track trace database society that goes under your skin.
	Eisenhower warned about this in his military industrial complex speech.
	And it is the regimentation of all human beings that the predator class has dreamed about for a very long time.
	You know, you mentioned technocracy.
	I would be remiss if I didn't mention Howard Scott, who funded that and was a big eugenicist.
	Used to talk about how he knew Margaret Singer, talked about the forcible drugging of the populace
	to make them sterile for, again, forced population control.
	These are truly the people and the ideas that we're still dealing with today,
	beginning of this century.
	We're gonna take one more break.
	The book is COVID-19 Psychological Operations and the War for Technocracy final segment after this.
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	A few people have a grasp on the situation, as you do.
	We've got a few minutes left in the broadcast.
	Number one, what else should we be focusing on going into the future?
	This COVID-1984 nightmare is far from over.
	As you alluded to before, mRNA is being streamlined.
	A lot of the technologies that were utilized during this era have now also been forwarded into the mainstream.
	What do we need to know and where do we need to navigate as a society to push back on that?
	Right, so one of the purposes of my book is to try and provide a kind of big picture grasp of the developments in the global political economy since 2020.
	I think that has largely been missing.
	As you say, it's not over.
	COVID-19 was just the opening campaign in a much longer war that I call the war for technocracy.
	And the war metaphor is, well, I mean, it's not even a metaphor, it's an accurate description.
	This is what's taking place.
	So this attempts to refashion the whole of society top down in a totalitarian technocratic image.
	It requires war measures, essentially, to deliver this.
	So in chapter one, I make this argument that we're looking fundamentally here at World War III, which in turn looks nothing like World War II, which looked nothing like World War I, that the methods and the weapons and everything are all different.
	But that's fundamentally what we're dealing with.
	Now, historically, psychological warfare has been the prelude for physical warfare.
	And much worse that comes later.
	So if you accept my argument that what took place in 2020-2021 was the world's most comprehensive and ferocious psychological operation in history, Then that points forward to something very, very dark, and we need to be alert to that.
	So if there's one kind of area that I'm trying to focus, put the public's attention on here, it's the class relations behind what's going on.
	Because we should make no mistake, there is a very tiny group numerically worldwide, the transnational ruling class, which controls all of the means of production.
	It controls the money supply, the media, and everything else.
	And in my opinion, has weaponized all of this against the global population now in a bid to move it onto this technocratic system.
	It's very dark.
	If you read my next book, which is coming out next month called Wall Street, The Nazis and the Crimes of the Deep State, What I do there is to draw direct parallels and continuities between the political economy of 1930s Germany before the war years and what has taken place in the West since 2020.
	And in my opinion, those parallels are extensive, And they're non-accidental.
	And of course, we all know where Nazi Germany led to in terms of the war and the Holocaust and the medical experimentation and all of the other horrors besides.
	So I guess what I'm encouraging people to do here is to try and See the bigger picture, see how it all fits together.
	And once you see it, you don't unsee it.
	And it requires that everybody then takes action to resist what's going on.
	Everybody has something to offer.
	Everybody has different skills and And so on.
	But there must be a way for everyone to challenge us in whatever way they can.
	Because it is possible to render this unenforceable.
	You know, if enough people reject the smart technologies and central bank digital currencies and so on, mass non-compliance renders this unenforceable.
	But first of all, enough people need to understand what exactly is going on.
	And that's what I've sought to do with this book and the next.
	Well, I bet anything in your next book, if you're into that arena, you're going to be talking about Brown Brothers, Harriman, Prescott, Bush, and the Nazis on top of other things.
	And folks, if you want to know about that handful of Predator class that may have a little bit of push in the direction where they're trying to take us, I want to remind people, Bilderberg is coming up at the end of the month in Madrid, Spain.
	I believe it's going to be the 30th To the second, a lot of power players out there.
	I hope the international audience that can be there will be covering it.
	I want to thank you guys so much.
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