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Machinery That Gives Abundance Has Left Us00:02:06
We have developed speed, but we have shut ourselves in.
Machinery that gives abundance has left us in blunt.
We think too much and feel too little.
More than machinery.
We need humanity.
We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat.
As if that's the way it's supposed to be.
We know things are bad, worse than bad.
They're crazy.
I am a great and powerful eye.
You've got to say, I'm a human being.
God damn it.
My life has been.
You have meddled with the primal forces of nature.
Don't give yourselves to brutes.
Men who despise you, enslave you, who regiment your lives, tell you what to do, what to think, or what to feel, who drill you, diet you, treat you like cattle, use you as cannon fodder.
Don't give yourselves to these unnatural men!
Machine men with machine minds and machine hearts, with Jason.
And who loves you?
And who do you love?
Good morning, good morning, good morning.
And today's going to be one of those days where we are heavy on video you've never seen, I've never seen covered, and really the vast majority of it, the vast, vast majority of it, is coming from businesses trying to sell you on digital immortality, okay?
Digital Immortality Sales00:15:16
And that's going to be probably the first part of the show.
AI, digital avatars, the movement into just about everything that you're no longer going to be able to believe your eyes, your ears, especially together, okay?
But more than that, the selling you on the idea that you can digitally live forever.
There can be avatar Burmese for the rest of your life.
You know, after looking at some of this technology, and basically last night, I was like, what do I want to cover?
I haven't covered transhumanism enough lately, in my opinion, because it still is the numero uno topic.
And often when I talk about it, I talk about this cell on the idea of what?
You can live forever in some virtual metaverse.
We can upload your consciousness.
Don't worry.
But on the other end of the spectrum, okay, what is the other cell?
Well, the other cell is biologically living forever for these uber mention.
These people that actually believe the bull snazz that they're elite.
The people I refer to as the predator class.
Okay.
Now, there's a lot of in-between.
It's not just like one or the other.
For instance, as you're going to see, and this all stemmed from a Gizmodo article, okay?
You know, this idea of investing in immortality.
And by the way, who wants you to live forever?
Almost nobody.
Maybe you and some loved ones want you to live forever.
They'd love to trick you into believing you can and then euthanizing yourself for a cheap digital ripoff that will get better and better.
And of course, why wouldn't it have done that?
Oh, wait, no, that's that is actually what I wanted.
Yes, it is.
So, you know what?
I just didn't do it right, but that's okay.
We'll do it live, right, right, Bill?
We'll do it live.
Okay, we'll do it live.
Fuck it.
Do it live.
I can all write it and we'll do it live.
There we go.
Thank you, Bill.
Excellent.
By the way, thumbs it up, subscribe, and share.
These AI companies want to bring you back from the dead.
And this is from Gizmodo.
And look, Gizmodo, over the years, far from perfect, but things like that and motherboard, et cetera, et cetera.
They at least give you a purview into technology.
And that's a lot more frank than others.
I'll say that.
And boy, man, I didn't know a lot of these companies existed.
And really, I think it's the second company here, Deep Brain AI.
They've got something pretty interesting that we're going to see more and more in the marketplace.
I 100% guarantee you after taking a look at this technology and after you see it.
What's publicly available, for instance, they already have programs where you can build an AI human.
We're going to show you the software.
It's a little bit, a little bit jerky.
I'd say it's about 80% of the way there.
Like if you were just looking at it and there was a little bit more natural movement into this AI, you'd be like, okay, okay.
And then there's a little speech that's not there.
Now you name it.
This AI is going to do it.
For instance, if a company is hiring, why do you need a person to even interview anybody anymore?
Isn't it more efficient to use artificial intelligence to do massive amounts of interviews?
Now, maybe somebody's going to view those interviews later, maybe.
Or maybe they're going to run that through AI as well.
AI really is going to be a huge, huge disruptor when you get to the corporate level.
And that's really another reason that this corporate oligarchy is having its coming out party because they realize now they have to consolidate power before people revolt against this technology, especially in AI and robotics.
Because, again, it's not going to be used to empower the vast majority of us.
All right.
Hereafter is another one.
Hereafter kind of reminded me a little bit of upload, which I know season two is out.
I haven't watched it yet.
I need to watch it.
Upload/slash, you know, the black mirror idea of creating a clone.
First, it starts with a phone app, and you're just texting with the other person, and it feels like they're using the same emojis and the same language.
And then if you want, you can give them a call.
And then all of a sudden, the voice is very natural, sounds exactly like your loved one.
And by the way, a lot of this is aimed at, you know, human beings' inability sometimes to accept death.
And death sucks.
Like, I talk about it here.
I don't, I'm, you know, especially don't like certain videos and all that other stuff.
Because look, I'm not celebrating death.
I like life.
But placating to the fears and preying on the fears of others, especially for this technology, extremely dangerous.
Extremely dangerous.
So that's actually a slideshow.
And we're going to go through some of that.
They get into Hansen Robotics, which I've covered since back in the InfoWars days.
They were out of Austin, Texas back then.
There's a Russian company that we're going to show you a news piece on that.
I think Brett Baer has one of the people from, it's not here after.
I think it's the second one, Digital Brain.
And they're talking about the avatar technology.
We get that clip.
But then what we got, and I don't know how we're going to get to it until the second hour, especially because one of the AI avatar sports webinars, it's pretty wild.
When I was watching it, you know, I'm thinking to myself, okay, we're going to have AI avatar announcers in five years.
Hell, in five years, you'll wonder if your favorite radio or TV personality is even doing their show.
Even if it's streaming live via video and audio, is it really them?
Is it really them?
Because a lot of this stuff, again, for clientele, is they're doing massive amounts of scans and they're having you speak for three hours, four hours, five hours, however long it takes.
And I'm sure it's probably up against, you know, a matted format, a green screen, a blue screen, something like that, probably from multiple angles, maybe even a more all-encompassing one.
So it's tough to think where we begin.
At the end of it, like I said, though, we're going to get into the actual bioengineering transhumanism.
Now, a lot of this will be merging with not only mechanical technology, but animals are involved as well.
I mean, we're already using chimeric technology within a lot of the bio-nanotech, and we have for years.
I constantly talk about chimeras.
And again, a chimera is just kind of like two different biological organisms or more spliced together somehow.
Or, you know, you could be 99.9% of one thing.
And they're like, take them, well, we like this.
We're going to splice that in.
I mean, it's real technology.
It's not science fiction.
And this is from the academic world that we're going to go over.
There's no way we can, that alone is an hour plus.
Okay.
So obviously we're not going to play that whole thing.
But, I mean, they get into ethics in the first 10 minutes.
This is out of Notre Dame.
I think the opening presenter, he's from Stanford.
And they're just kind of like openly talking about, hey, we're going to bioengineer everything.
It's the takeover.
And honestly, if you've been paying attention, especially not only the last few years when it was just right in your face, but GMO, genetically modified organisms.
Everybody knows the term.
So, you know, that should be a man on the street.
People should be going to Whole Foods.
Okay.
And I would say to ask some of the boomer crowd, what does GMO stand for?
They're going there.
And boy, I know people call me a boomer.
By the way, pretty excited.
Update to voice mod.
So like now, it seems like it'll actually work.
We'll see.
I mean, I don't want to Bet on it, but it looks like if I want to turn into Donald Trump, I can turn into Donnie T at the flip of the switch, and it's great, it's superb, it's number one with the best.
You get it, and now it turns off.
Um, yeah, it's the software I paid for.
Thank you.
That's that's what we wanted, and that's you know, AI generated right now.
You know, we've done the demon, the demon voice is AI generated, sort of, like it's just a soundboard mix, but like this is like we could do real-time Barackstar, real-time Barack Obama, hope and change for everybody, for the world, for my wife, Michelle, for my daughters.
We can just turn it off like that.
That's what we can do.
What do we got over here?
Whole Foods, you mean whole check?
Yeah, I don't go to whole.
There's no Whole Foods around here.
It's great.
You know what?
I haven't been to natural groceries.
That's what's in my area, everybody.
But I do go to Fresh Time.
Fresh Time's number one, man.
I love Fresh Time.
Everything I get there actually is super fresh, super delicious.
And it's really, I mean, don't get me wrong.
Prices have spiraled out of control, especially if you want the top-tier cold cuts, right?
And that's what I go there for.
Boar's head.
It's the only place in town that has Boar's Head, which is if you're going to eat cold cuts, you better be eating Boar's Head.
That's all I'm saying.
It's delicious.
Maybe that, hey, maybe down the line, digital avatar Jason will have that same feeling and it'll feel real.
Boy, he did love Boar's Head.
But again, these are cheap replicas.
These aren't real.
I guess since we only got four minutes in the segment, what we'll do is we will go to the article.
We'll go to the slideshow so I can show you some of this stuff right here.
Let's see.
See, that's what I mean.
So I'm looking this way.
I guess I'm going to be looking that way on the video stuff.
Good.
All right.
All right.
This works.
It all works.
Did I fix this?
No, I didn't.
Let's fix this too.
We're fixing things, guys.
It's fixing McGee.
There we go.
So boom, boom, boom.
All right.
That's what we want.
So let's go through the slideshow really quickly.
And then we'll hit some of these videos.
So this is, what is this?
Hereafter?
Yeah, this is hereafter.
This has the app.
This is going to be kind of like that texting thing that I was telling you about.
And there's already, what is it, replicant, where people have digital avatar girlfriends that text them.
There's this term out there called simp lately.
Okay.
And I mean, you're simping for real women sometimes now.
Sometimes it's not, especially like I was actually introduced to this world over a decade ago when I was premiering part of my film, Shade the Motion Picture.
I met like this Dominatrix slash stripper who was there with her mother.
This was a G. Edward Griffin event in Long Island.
And she told me what she did.
And I'm like, okay.
And then she goes, do you know what a pay pig is?
Was unaware what a pay pig was.
Maybe you are too.
Maybe you should be.
But basically, they were like these guys that wanted to like get denigrated on just these texts back and forth.
And they just put money in like a PayPal account or whatever.
It's like, what?
And then obviously there end up being like dungeon clientele that want to be used and abused.
Very bizarre to me.
Just very bizarre too that like you'd want to pay for something like that.
You know, on the less extreme level, I guess now you have OnlyFans.
But I could never understand why you would be paying to do that when like you could be spending your money on going out and interacting with people and you know trying to meet somebody that maybe didn't want to denigrate you online or do whatever online and demand money for it later and was totally disingenuous.
But now AI is going to take over that.
Now hereafter, again, is preying on the idea of your loved ones.
But just think about how this is going to be used in all social media all over the place as it gets more prevalent.
Okay?
Thumbs it up, subscribe, share.
We're going to come back after this word from our sponsor.
We're going to start hitting these videos too because there's a ton of them.
And we're going to show you the hereafter.
Actually, that'll be a good way to do it.
We'll bounce back and forth on some.
We'll show you the hereafter apps and AI after this word from our sponsor.
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So, hereafter, again, what's some they quiz you and they have varying degrees of it.
So, that's what we're going to do.
We're going to go, we're going to do their, hmm, let's do their ad first.
We'll do their ad first, and then we'll do a tutorial on how to use the app that you're seeing this lovely animated grandpa use.
Right?
Here we go.
What if there was one place where all of your memories could live forever?
One place where you could ask any question about the life of someone you love and always hear their voice.
Introducing Hereafter AI, the amazing new way to save and share memories about your life.
First, you record memories with the help of a friendly automated interviewer.
Hi, I'm James.
What would you like to do?
What's something unusual about your childhood?
When I was growing up, my dad was a preacher, and we moved around a great deal.
Got it.
I'll save that memory.
Pick the topic yourself or get an inspiring suggestion.
You can also upload photos to go with your stories.
Then, using the power of our AI platform, your loved ones can chat with the virtual you today or years in the future.
Unlike conventional methods for storing memories, Hereafter is interactive.
Hey, grandpa!
Pillow, what part of my life would you like to hear about now?
Hello, what part of my life would you like to hear about?
No, Grandpa.
Oh my goodness.
Look, I mean, this is kind of like Jorrell slash Superman, right?
You go all the way back to the Richard Donner Superman series and Superman in his Fortress of Solitude, which had secret technology in the Arctic.
Secret.
And I know a lot of the people, the UFO aliens.
Yes, secret alien technology in the Arctic, Jason.
Okay.
It's a movie.
We'll go with it.
We'll go with that.
Yep, sure.
But they take it and he popped it and poop it and pop it this.
And he can talk to his dead father.
And it's a replicant of that.
Tell me something that I don't know about you.
Sure.
One time I played basketball against the Harlem Globetrotters.
And I scored a three-pointer.
That's crazy.
I guess that is kind of a strange story when you think about it.
Tell me something else surprising about you.
There was a time that I was the pilot of a competition biplane and did barrel rolls and loops.
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For the boomers out there, we'll let you know how to do it.
Hi there.
This app lets you record stories and memories about your life and share them with the people that you love.
They can listen whenever they want just by asking questions about your life.
Right now, you're on the record page.
This is where you'll save memories with the help of our friendly automated interviewer.
And by the way, this is how you know this is a startup.
Everybody's using the absolutely terrible canned video.
Like working, I worked in the corporate world for just a little bit at this MSP company, managed service provider, and there's so much, there's so much canned content already in that world a decade plus ago.
Okay.
So much, and now AI is going to automate even more of that out.
Hello.
I'm looking forward to recording more memories with you.
At the bottom of the message window, you'll see choices for what you can do.
I'll pick get a story prompt.
A suggestion will show up in a pink message bubble.
If it inspires you, great.
If not, you can always click show me another.
Think of a story or memory that begins with a suggested prompt.
Then, when you're ready, hit the pink button to start recording.
If this is your first session, you'll also need to give the app permission to use the microphone.
See?
You can start talking.
Very much there for the boomer crowd.
Don't worry.
You're going to have to give some permissions here.
That's not the only permission you're given.
You know, I talked about this with Fitch recently on how all this better help is every even Joe Rogan.
I watched the Muskernuts interview.
By the way, I watched more of the Theo Vaughn Tucker Carlson interview.
Extremely fascinating.
Really a glimpse into people coming back from addiction in a lot of ways.
And that's a whole nother subject matter.
But I mean, there's a lot of great commentary in there and it just flowed rather awkwardly, but well.
I'm highly recommending it.
There's a lot of good, I mean, there was a lot of poignant things that Tucker was talking about that I hadn't heard him talk about before.
Side note, okay?
You look at these apps and what they're doing, and they're having you basically.
First of all, you're giving your version of events, but you're spilling your guts out.
Now, with all this better help Johnny nonsense everywhere, and you know, telemedicine, soon the doctors are going to be just like the interviewers we're going to show you in these videos.
They're going to be simulated, they're not even going to be real, they're not even going to be real.
So, now you're spilling your guts out to an AI all the time with your encouraged to talk about your innermost thoughts.
Whatever happened to being like stoic about some things.
And by the way, I think that everybody, including myself, has certain things that they hold extremely close to their chest at times, you know, depending on the situation.
Bare minimum.
That's part of being human.
Is that kooky to say?
I don't know.
One of my earliest childhood memories is always start by saying the exact words in the pink message bubble.
Then continue with your story, which can be as short as 10 or 15 seconds and up to two minutes long.
When you're done, hit the circular button again to stop recording.
I like that too.
You only have to, I mean, that just also speaks to how disingenuous and bullshit this is.
Yeah, you got about two minutes to tell your story.
Now, don't get me wrong, two minutes is a long time.
But if you haven't noticed, I do a talk show.
I can be rather long-winded.
And I would think you're telling some interesting story about the fad you embraced as a teenager.
A fad I embraced as a teenager, you know, down the line.
It might take more than two minutes to articulate that.
Not here, not in the hereafter.
After hitting the stop button, you'll then have a few choices.
I recommend selecting play to make sure that the audio you recorded sounds good.
If it's too loud, move further away from your phone or computer microphone.
Then select try again and retell your story, beginning with the prompt in the pink bubble.
You'll get better results if you do your recording in a quiet place.
Once you're satisfied with the results, select remember that.
Each time after you save a story, you'll be prompted to record a single sentence or phrase.
These will get played later to help guide your loved ones as they listen to your stories.
When you read these, don't skip anything or add anything.
Just record the prompts exactly as they are, word for word, as you'll hear me doing in this example.
Yeah, you can't.
Hello, I'm looking forward to sharing my memories with you.
Hello.
I'm looking forward to sharing my memories with you.
Once you've recorded at least 10 memories, a basic version of your life story avatar will be ready to share stories.
You can try it out for yourself on the Converse page, and you can invite family members and friends to access it on the settings page.
Happy storytelling.
Happy storytelling.
So, that was the hereafter.
Now, we're going to get into Deep Brain and Deep Brain Studios.
And what you're looking at is AI Studios 3.0.
And this is kind of a different animal.
This is more of the running man scenario.
Okay, and this is again the idea that you don't know who or what you might be talking to.
Now, I'm not sure if they do Deep Brain over here on the slideshow.
Let's go past the hereafter.
And no, they go to Hansen Robotics.
And look, Hansen Robotics, Grace, Sophia, blockchain technology now.
Very creepy.
Very creepy.
Re-memory.
That's a lot like what we just saw.
Oh, grieving partners or children can also request to speak with virtual persons in a specialized memorial showroom.
Isn't that nice?
Featuring a 400-inch screen.
So they make a digital avatar of you with all that good stuff.
We'll get into this Russian transhumanist company and robotics in a moment.
But first, I want to do these digital avatars for sure.
They're important because this is the type of software that we're going to be dealing with in the near future.
I'm sure I'm going to be playing with stuff like this.
This reminds me a lot of the old 3D modeling days.
Only much more simplified.
The graphic user interface, much more simplified.
And obviously, way more advanced with these avatars.
Like you, you know, there's always like these pre-rendered models you could play with.
I remember Poser was one of the first things out there.
This is like way beyond that, but that's like when I was in college, 25 years ago.
I'm an old man now.
The technology has gotten that much better.
So let's play this.
See, there's the model.
You get to choose different shapes.
You can upload different assets.
You know, videos, audio, pretty basic.
Your titles, your subtitles.
You know, every because really a lot of this stuff is built.
And there's a bunch of the avatars to choose from for that social media landscape.
This is deep brain AI.
Let's see.
Yeah, we'll go to the 965 similarity.
Then we'll do Fox News.
Deep Brain AI's digital humans are created using state-of-the-art AI avatar tickets.
Look at the one looking like Howie Mandel on the end.
Tell me that doesn't look like Howie.
Tell me that's not a Mandel.
Knowledge.
High-risk lipstick technology and unique gestures are used to create realistic virtual people that are indistinguishable from a real human.
High-quality virtual humans that smoothly connect various gestures and express their entire body, that smoothly connects various gestures and expresses the whole body.
Implemented the world's first real-time response technology using fast synthesis that distributes and operates multiple GPUs.
The virtual humans are already being utilized in various fields.
You can customize your own digital human.
There they are.
AI anchor wang.
Say that three times fast.
I'm glad that we have an AI Anchor Wang.
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Hopefully now, you know, that we've got this going.
I still got a lot of moving to do.
But in the next couple months, we'll get our groove back and maybe even get some more guests on the regular show.
We haven't had any guests on like just the regular show.
I know that a lot of you watch that third hour over on the RVM stream because you're watching the second hour over at RVMrumble.com.
But I like to interact with people.
I like to have conversations that matter.
Really interesting conversation on the other show with an insider White House stenographer there for 2002 to 2018, dealing mostly with the vice president.
Those are like intriguing conversations to me.
AI stuff, but I like the real world stuff as well.
Other people's insights.
You should too.
And it's people.
One talking to AI.
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Rebecca Brown, thank you so much.
She says, hope you enjoy the new location.
Here's a little scratch to ease the way.
Appreciate that.
And then Scott Free, a little extra tipski and hunch to celebrate the new studio.
You guys tell me what color you like Jason Burmes to be.
How's the frame rate?
Because it's only with this camera.
Although I like how clean it looks.
Really 24 frames a second in a 30 frame a second output.
Now it's supposed to do 4K 60 and I'm only doing 1080.
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I know we're doing tech talk here, but it is AI day.
It's AI day over at RVM.
But you can only do that within the software.
And then since you can only do that within the software, there's like this NDI thing.
I don't know if I like it.
Let's see.
A little extra tips you can hunch for the new studio.
Congrats.
Sounds fine, by the way.
Perhaps some of the extra scratch can go to buying a kind of bird netting to surround your place.
I did not tune into Burmes to go on Jungle Safari.
Fingers crossed.
Yeah, no, there was no dead bird outside yesterday after it hit my window.
Seems to have been fine.
I got up just, I probably just put up some shade there.
You know, like that's what I really, one of the next things I need to do, put up curtains, do it big.
We'll do it big.
We won't do that live.
I promise you.
Now, let's go to this Fox News piece with the company you just saw.
And then what I want to show you is the other things that they're doing.
More of the studio, the interview process, and then the webinar showing you how they're like, they're creating AI golfers.
I thought it was just going to be like the sportscasters themselves.
No, they're creating to AI golfers as well.
So let's go to it right here, Fox News.
This evening, we continue our series on the rise of artificial intelligence by examining how AI is helping people cope with the death of their loved ones.
And the solution is raising some serious ethical questions.
Here's correspondent Mark Meredith.
Instead of saying goodbye forever, artificial intelligence lets people live on virtually.
To create the digital real person to AI avatar, we usually shoot three hours.
Michael Jung is CFO of California-based DeepBrain AI.
For roughly $10,000, the company records a person's voice, face, mannerisms, and asks them questions to help a computer later generate personal responses even after they're deceased.
The technology can provoke strong emotional reactions, but creators say that's the point.
In 2020, a South Korean documentary crew captured the heartbreaking moment when a mother reunited with her deceased seven-year-old daughter through AI.
While she couldn't physically touch her daughter, the moment is chilling.
Psychiatrists telling Fox technology like this can also create problems.
The potential for it to come up with sort of wildly inappropriate or wildly inaccurate behaviors, comments, images even is right now, I think, quite high.
And that could be extremely disturbing.
Experts believe while the tech is improving rapidly, it could also backfire.
One philosophy professor writing in 2021 that AI grief means it will be more difficult for people to arrive at some form of closure.
Well, that's the whole idea because there is no more closure.
They want to sell you on some bullshit idea that you're going to be able to upload your consciousness.
That if you give it enough information, they're going to be able to recreate it all.
I just, it astounds me that more people don't see that.
And at the same time, what?
What do you think this transgender thing is?
It's so you believe, again, that somehow, some way, you can be anything you want, right?
It's not just a man or it's a woman.
It's fluid.
It's a unicorn.
It's not non-binary zeros and ones.
It's, you know, pony.
You're a pony.
You're ponytown.
Ponytown, USA.
Like, come on, man.
And again, if they disassociate you enough from your humanity and you don't have closure and there is no closure, right?
That's the new cell.
Upload your consciousness.
Be in the avatar.
You are the avatar.
The Portland Institute for Loss and Transition recently did a study on how people mourn with chatbots.
It found that people who use the AI saw a boost in self-confidence after using the tech in the grieving process.
But Brett, researchers admit this is so new.
It's a complex issue and they believe further study is needed, but this is certainly where the future is heading.
Brett.
Mark, great job with this series all week long.
Great job, Brett.
Great job.
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So now, you know, with these presentations, personally, I love the inclusion.
It's very diverse here of the Arab gentleman and the small Asian girl.
We're going to need that.
And then, like, the anime character blonde woman.
Fantastic.
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So this is Deep Brain in the interview process.
We're going to do that next.
And then we're going to show you the webinar.
One of the guys that was interviewed in the beginning of that news clip showing you how it's going to revolutionize sports.
And like, I was thinking sports casters.
No, they're like, hey, we'll just have full AI games of humans that aren't real.
Like, I can't imagine that I'd ever really want to watch an AI fight.
But I guess if I didn't know it was an AI fight, like an MMA fight or a bare knuckle fight, I could be tricked into it.
If it was perfect, I mean, if it was photo real.
I mean, we're not quite there yet, but we're getting there.
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Hi, I'm Brent.
I'm going to be your interviewer.
And it's an AI.
You never talk to a person.
And then ChatGPT, which has already proven itself ultra-deceptive, is going to decide whether you get to the next level or a human being even looks at your application.
That's not tomorrow.
That's today.
That's happening to duh.
Is that okay with everybody?
Are we celebrating that?
I don't know.
Call me Kookie might not be the best idea.
It's okay, Dave.
Everything's going to be fine, Dave.
AI interviewers will help, Dave.
Phonuctivity improvement is coming, Dave.
Give me a break.
No bueno, no thank you.
But, you know, I'm going to turn the audio off as we kind of like sift through this one quickly.
But they're revolutionizing professional sports, how AI avatars redefine the sports experience.
Okay, and there's the woman right there with the IKEA and the interactive commercial.
Let's do her right here with this just for a little bit.
Because then when we get to the sports stuff, okay, that's the tennis stuff, but the golf stuff is really incredible.
It's talking like the younger version of the guy, too.
Okay, but let's go back to right here.
Hi, my name is Paige.
Let's do that.
We're based on the real person, but we also can create synthetic avatar too, done exist to face.
And you can see her of her facial expressions and her, we also cloning her voices, her mannerism and gesture and so on.
And just so everybody knows, he's up in that corner right there.
I am one of the newest virtual employees at Deep Brain AI.
I am an artificial human-made with deep learning technologies.
So this is to make the video, the text-to-video solution, we call AI Studios.
And France TV and SK Telecom use both the AI Studios.
And the next solution is the AI Human.
AI Human is the AI conversational service that AI Avatar can communicate with users, integrating with STT and NLP.
Later, SK Telecom will share how they use the AI Human that we did, the golf instructor, providing the golf lessons.
And I want to show one demo that we have made for, this is the concept video we have made.
And I will play the video.
So here we go.
They're making ads for IKEA via AI.
And here it is.
Hello.
Oh, see, it's so, and he's drinking his coffee.
It's so low.
Let's go to since four years ago.
We started with Korea and now we spend it to China and other countries.
Our solution is not trying to replace the human or the journalist.
Because nowadays there are so many of digital media, the digital media channel that can have all the human can showing on their air on and filming it.
We want to support our TV media network, but we have more use cases that Sonny want to share too.
So I will go to SK Telecom and we're going to have open discussions in the end.
No, you know, it's just, we don't want to replace the people or the journalists.
No, no, Sonny, what are we going to do?
So Sonny, can you explain what you have done for SK Telecom Open?
Okay, before I start explaining our AI project, just for your information, I'd like to introduce what is SKT Open Golf Tournament and who is KJ Choi.
SKT Open Golf Tournament now in its 26th year is one of the biggest major library golf tournaments in Korea, like US Open or Masters.
So SKT utilizes this sports tournament as a platform to showcase our vision as an AI company.
At SKT Open 2023, we offered a unique AI experience to our golf fans by leveraging our AI and media technologies.
And KJ Choi, he's a representative star player of SKT Open.
He's a legend in Korean men's professional golf.
He's also PGA to approve.
So he has been actively participating in many.
He's been participating in many of the PGA things.
Now, watch what they do.
They build a digital avatar.
They de-age him.
They put him in real time when he's not there.
It's like running man stuff.
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In the second hour, we're going to go to this Notre Dame academic conference where it's the other side of this.
It's not just the deep fakes and the virtually living forever.
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I had that kind of goofy a little bit just because we were watching that other video.
I want to go back to that quickly.
Where are we?
Bam.
Today, we've got a couple of many tournaments based in the U.S.
And he won a total of 18 professional titles, including eight U.S. tour victories and one European tour victory.
So, as SKT has been his main sponsor since, can you keep continuing to explain?
Robots Revealed: AI's Human Role00:09:49
Oh, yeah.
On the screen, we have two KJ Choi here.
You're right.
The real KJ Tway and then the AI KJ Chui is giving the comment of what how he played the golf at the time, right?
But doing so, he's commenting on himself, and then here you go.
We can make this AI KJ Tway because SK Telecom is a mobile care company, but they also have solutions such as like TTS.
So, they the SK Telecom had the cloning of the real KJ Chu voices, and we did the facial part to combine for these two so that we can create the AI KJ Tway.
Even we didn't film Real KJ Chui to capture the real personal video for this.
That's why we can create this person, right?
And we'll go to the next one.
Can you explain the next project you've done?
Okay, this is the second AI project at SKT Open.
It was a little special because we tried to present AI human role in a different way.
This is a re-created AI teenage AI KJ Choi, and we filmed a touching documentary featuring a conversation between Rear KJ Choi and the teenage AI KJ Choi.
So, this documentary goes beyond the usual AI human role and aim to touch people's emotions and showing AI as a human-like figure that can move and inspire.
Move and inspire.
So, he talks to himself.
They already kind of openly admit to the emotional manipulation of everything.
This is where we are today, not even where it's heading.
Okay, this is where we're at today.
I want to move on.
I want to go to this company right here, you know, kind of as the competitor to Hansen Robotics because this is a global issue.
This isn't just the United States.
This is everywhere.
Everywhere.
Alright, so let's play this right here.
Russian robot manufacturer Promobot has been perfect in how its humanoid robots mimic their human creators in how they look and move.
Promobot robots work as talking assistants in government centers in Moscow as well as universities.
They are produced with a mental skull covered with several layers of silicon skin.
But the company's technical director, Igor Yeremiv, says the key to a good imitation is in its mechanics.
For resembling a human, it does not matter how much the robot looks.
It matters how it acts.
For now, the robot has about 40 server motors in its head that follow the movement scripts.
Our team is programming it.
On every part of the face, there are around 40 moving points.
The motors are moving these points, and we can see the emotions.
We can see there that the robot is trying to smile, open its mouth, and move its eyes, brows, and cheeks.
It all moves with the help of several murders.
So this is the Westworld aspect of it, right?
Also creepy, but really to acclimate, I think, human beings.
It's just like right now, you have the humanoid robot Optimus being built by Musk, and you've got now these humanoid-looking robots over in the Amazon factories.
This is by design again to acclimate you.
And the Westworld scenario is extremely disturbing because it takes you from a world like this with the robotics, right?
And then all of a sudden, they're more bio-engineered robotics, right?
They're like 3D printed almost in this like amnionic milk type thing.
Yummy.
Yummy.
The company plans to bring even more lifelike features to its robots in the future.
We already have requests for movable arms.
We have seen a robot with just static hands as it sits there.
We're now developing movable hands that could perform some gestures during conversation.
I think in the first place, we will make it stand, and later in the nearest three or four years, we'll make it work.
According to the company's website, Service Promobot, founded in 2013, works in 40 countries around the world as administrators, consultants, guides, and concierges, replacing or supplementing human employees.
In 2019, Promobot V4 became an employee of the American College of North Carolina.
good old b4 huh and again there's an artistry to this but they want them to it's not a human It's not ever going to be a human, no matter how far advanced it is.
But again, it's going to psychologically acclimate so many people in a manner they cannot understand to accepting this type of thing, which is not good.
No bueno.
No bueno.
And it's going to get better and better and better.
But as that gets better, the bio-nanotech in our food, in our air, in our water, just kind of, whoo.
And that goes along with the pharma that so many people are on.
It's an attack on humanity.
In fact, there's this article that I did want to get to.
Oh, what are we doing here?
See, I already did it wrong.
Already making mistakes right over here.
Welcome to the party, pal.
So, post-humans revolt against responsibility.
Okay.
And this is a good one because it's just like refuting the philosophies that welcome human extinction.
They say, oh, we're so bad.
No, we're not.
And by the way, this is, if you want to watch, it's going to be in the second hour, the genesis of engineered life, co-creation, and the culture of bioengineering, Notre Dame Computer Science and Engineering.
And by the way, just so everybody knows how many people have seen this, this is from December of 22, almost a year ago.
And since we do it live, 79 views.
That's 79 views.
Less than 100 people and maybe some people that were there.
We're going to watch it because this is the other side of transhumanism.
Okay, this is where they'd like to experiment on the vast majority of us biologically with all the things I just talked about with the bio-nanotech in the food supply, in the air, in the medicine we get.
All right.
And we, and we just get to be the guinea pigs.
Ain't that lovely?
And what works, what doesn't?
Well, that can be revealed over time.
We got right here, little Rockfin, Tipski, and Hutch.
TD, he said, no bueno.
And I agree.
No bueno indeed.
But again, these are the academics.
These are the people that are working with the military industrial complex.
All right.
These are the ones that are putting it out into the public arena.
Okay?
That's what's happening.
So I think it's really important.
And that's the thing.
Do these academics think that they're going to be able to partake in this technology?
The vast majority of them, of course not.
They're to be replaced by the AI.
They're to be replaced by the robots.
They're to be replaced by the cheap imitations.
No, thank you.
No, thank you, Mr. Singularity Kurzweil.
No thank you, Miss and Mr. Rothblatt.
Transhumanism Controversies00:02:28
No.
From transgender to transhuman?
No, and no.
And I know that right now, like the hot topics that everybody else are talking about are the transgender Christian shooter person.
Yeah, guys, that was a very mentally ill person that was susceptible to the noise that is propagated constantly via the mainstream.
That's, I'm sorry, that poor person just along the way, the nurture wasn't there and the nature wasn't in them to combat the barrage of attacks psychologically that came at them.
In a lot of ways, you know, and I'm not trying to say what they did wasn't completely and totally egregious.
Of course it was.
But think about how they were victimized by a system so much that they actually believed that they were in the wrong body and they actually believed that white privileged people, this is a white person, were somehow oppressing them.
And they actually believed that to a point where the idea, and Christians as well, that they would kill innocent children based on, again, not the content of their character, but simply who they were.
That's crazy.
Crazy exists.
And not only just that barrage, but you know there was a pharmaceutical barrage on top of it.
Believe the hype.
If you don't think that person was on big pharma all the way, come on.
You know, I saw some people in one of my groups commenting on the Alaska plain person and the micro-dosing mushrooms.
No, they were heavily medicated for six years of depression.
The micro-dosing mushrooms 48 hours earlier had nothing to do with it.
That's imagination land.
Okay, I'm sorry.
That's not why the guy had a manic, a disassociative episode, freaked out and tried to kill everybody.
Just saying.
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Welcome to all of you.
My name is William Hurlbutt.
I'm a professor in the Department of Neurobiology at Stanford University, and I'm the leader of the project that is co-sponsoring this conference, the Stanford project entitled The Boundaries of Humanity: Humans, Animals, and Machines in the Age of Biotechnology.
We have a very interesting and well-complementary panel of speakers.
Humans, animals, and machines in the age of biotechnology.
Today, I'm going to give you very brief introductions.
Megan Levis is a postdoctoral fellow in computer science and engineering at Notre Dame.
Dylan Stahl is a fifth-year medical student at Stanford, with whom I had the privilege of mentoring what they call a med scholars project on chimeras and organoids.
So that was, so I know Dylan quite well.
And Father Mark.
And by the way, chimeras, we talk about all the time, organoids are, yeah, they're going to get into them pretty shortly, but basically it's this bio-nanotechnology, kind of like when we talk about the brains and bio, the brain being artificial brains being created via biomimetics.
So that's wet and dry computing, if you will.
Michael Baggett is currently an assistant professor of bioethics at the Pontifical Athenaeum Regina Pastellorum in Rome.
So what is our subject today?
We are going to look at the challenges implied by advancing biotechnology.
In the last session in this room, we looked at the evolutionary forces that have formed us.
And now we're going to bridge over into the challenging question of what are we going to do now that some of those forces are coming into our hands through technological advances.
This places us right squarely in a sort of exalted or newly enhanced position of co-creators.
It's taking us back a little beyond being the tiller and the keeper of the garden to remaking the garden and more importantly, perhaps remaking ourselves.
One of our talks is going to be focused first, the first talk on genetic engineering, the stewardship and creativity as the central axis of that.
Dylan is going to talk to us about the stewardship of creativity with bioengineering, the stewardship.
When we talk about stewardships, who's taking command?
Who's taking control?
And if you've been paying attention to this channel, there's already a class of people in their military-industrial complex who've openly taken control.
Like when you hear Dennis Bushnell talk about directed evolution and how the natural evolution of everything is over and we're taking control of that, well, that's stewardship to these people.
Chimeric creations, and that implies the question of the very definition of human life and of course how we could knock it off kilter or how we could disrespect it.
Hmm.
You know how you might knock it off kilter?
Maybe if you injected billions of people with bio-nanotech that fundamentally changes DNA.
Huh.
And that bio-nanotech had chimeric aspects in its engineering itself.
Huh.
I wonder if that could knock things off kilter.
Maybe.
And then finally, we're going to conclude with a very important overarching question, and that is, how do we know?
How do we know anything?
How do we understand the world?
And most importantly, how do we understand ourselves?
So that with these new powers of biotechnology, we can together say with St. Francis, all praise is yours, all glory, all honor, and all blessing.
Please welcome Megan Livis.
Thank you so much, Bill, and thank you to the organizers for having me speak today.
I'm going to begin by talking to you guys about bioengineering and co-creation.
So let's go ahead and get started.
Let's bioengineering and co-creation.
So again, bioengineering is something I included in my film, Shade the Motion Picture, because it was really an extension of geoengineering.
Because when you are geoengineering or changing the weather or climate, you are inherently changing the biological life of everything surrounding it.
Everything in that purview.
Everything.
So geoengineering really is bioengineering by definition.
So I just want to begin by talking about some systems that we are currently creating in bioengineering research.
And then we're going to get in and talk a little bit about the ethics of them.
But we're going to begin with a broad overview here.
So first, we have, in talking about engineering of complex living systems, the first example that I have here is biorobots, also called xenon mops.
And these are systems that are created out of cells but can kind of reconfigure themselves in a robotic manner.
Then we have on-chip microfluidic systems, which can look like any of the organs in the body.
They're slightly more complicated than just your single sort of cell layer systems.
They're more complicated than even a two-cell layer system occasionally.
What makes them really cool is that you can kind of plug them into each other and you can see sort of some of the interactions between different organ-like systems within the body.
And these systems are particularly helpful for things like drug development and kind of understanding more kind of complicated interaction.
Take a look at that.
You see how it's built there?
And obviously that's not micronized.
That microfluidic system, I don't know, looks a little microchippish in its rigid design.
And it's going to be used in medicine.
Now, I'm not talking about that people, oh, microchip like the population.
Saying on a nano level, it almost looks like a circuit board of sorts when it's actually in construct.
And again, oh, Xenobots.
Oh, what are we watching?
70s sci-fi, Jason.
No, we're watching reality.
And then finally, the example that I have here today is organoids, which are small organ-like systems.
And we're going to spend a little bit of time, a little bit more time, sort of talking about them, what they are, and what they're useful for.
So the central guiding question that I have for us today is: how can we improve the human condition without promoting a worldview where one sees persons as objects or objects as persons?
By the way, notice the human-like thing right there with the angels and demons sitting there.
Hey, we got another, hey, Brock, by the way.
Brock says, Did you set up your OnlyFans studio?
You can go check out on Twitter.
Anybody would like to see what this studio looks like.
And right next to me is going to be really like a guest studio.
I mean, it's all going to be one.
It's not like I'm going to pan it off, but where I would have guests and we could have like one-on-ones.
Probably, I'll try to get Militic in here for a one-on-one once I do get it set up.
Still got a lot, lot, lot, lot of work.
But Brock, I do, really do appreciate all the support lately.
I really do, my friend.
Let's continue on.
I mean, how do we do that?
How do we change the genetics of human beings and be good about it?
I don't know.
How do you do that?
Is that even possible?
So, how do we kind of keep the correct sort of understanding of what a human person is in light of bioengineering?
So, I want to begin with a couple of bioethicists who I love.
Father Ashley and O'Rourke, they're Dominicans, and they wrote a couple of great textbooks on bioethics, but I thought we would start with them on some kind of general guidance for people thinking about kind of ideas relating to human reconstruction.
So, they begin by telling us that God calls humankind to join with him to share in his creative power through the gift of intelligence.
So, this is really important.
We are called to both stewardship and creativity to be genuine co-workers with God in an evolutionary process, which is not yet complete.
So, here are a couple of things to note.
God doesn't want humans to leave their talents uncultivated.
He gave them to us and encourages us to use them to improve the universe.
One thing that they note is that Christianity can assimilate a theory of evolution.
So, within that idea, we're called to join with God in bringing the universe to completion in this creation story.
However, they note that human creativity depends on a human brain that we must be very careful to not diminish.
Other organs don't quite need to be as protective.
For example, they say we could engineer other ways of breathing and maybe not require our lungs in the future.
I mean, let's just start with some of the lunacy there.
First of all, Christianity can assimilate to the theory of evolution.
Now, you can try to assimilate modern Christians to the theory of evolution.
Christianity, whether you believe in it or not, cannot be assimilated to the theory of evolution, macroevolution, period.
Because honestly, I don't know what could honestly assimilate to that because I haven't seen the evidence of macro evolution.
I often talk about this.
No Intelligence Allowed Is a film by Ben Stein that does a great job challenging macroevolution.
Microevolution all day, baby.
I understand that aspect of it.
I understand mutations and evolution, especially involving the natural surroundings of species.
I get it.
I can look at a horse and a zebra.
I can look at the differences of human beings based on what the natural regions they and their ancestors grew up in over generations.
And it's pretty obvious that a relationship to where you lived in proximity to the sun had a big, big deal on how you might look.
Does anybody think it's a coincidence that quote-unquote black people originate from a place where there's a lot of sunlight and that white people originate, at least from we know for generations in a European nation where there isn't a lot of sunlight and there's a lot of rain?
And then you look at like Native Americans and Hispanics, and then there's the blend, the mix, the seasons.
It's pretty obvious.
You know, so quote unquote Asian people didn't evolve somewhere in North or South America in those regards to those features.
Yeah, no kidding.
Okay, so microevolution real, macroevolution, species to species evolution.
Show me the money.
Show me the money.
We are called to join with God in bringing the universe to completion.
I don't know where that join with God, how?
Become God.
What are you talking about?
And then you're, I mean, you're literally getting into the realm of bioengineering human beings.
So they're not human beings anymore.
What are we going to have?
Gills?
Are we going to become the day god?
Are we going to be the fish people?
Come on.
Yeah, a little tricky, but potentially that could be fine.
So then in talking specifically about that cooperation with creation and that call to co-creation, we're given sort of three ideas to sit with and to hold on to.
First is that surgery and genetic engineering is good if the risks are taken appropriately into account and don't carry this false ambition.
So they don't kind of overpromise for something that might not ever be able to be kind of entirely engineered away.
Two things to note.
They need to.
All I see are over-promises.
I mean, literally, nothing but over-promises of abundance and immortality.
It's all I see.
False, all I see is false ambition.
You know, I would love to believe that these people are benevolent.
Organoids and Moral Status00:15:07
They want to help us.
That's why cancer's exploded.
That's why mental health has exploded.
That's why the drugs that they give us are poison.
That's why the food they try to feed us is poison.
False it.
I mean, come on, man.
Come on, man.
In the immortal words of Joe Biden.
And now these days with AI, I can just become Joe Biden.
Just like this.
Come on, man.
Don't you understand, Jack?
We got a cancer moonshot.
It's going to save the world, save humanity.
We're all going to live forever.
Than the universe.
Not weaken family ties or diminish kind of our unique and individual personhood.
So these are two things that are really important to keep in mind as we're highlighting the good of engineering.
Next, we have genetic engineering being permissible if it improves rather than mutilates.
And so kind of our goal is to continue to improve and not to kind of create something totally different and to kind of ruin God's creation.
So here they note that somatic and germline editing are distinct.
We need to be much more careful if we're creating, if we're engineering in the germline, which can be continued on into future generations.
And then finally, we have the principles of stewardship and creativity, which are really important to enlighten bioengineering.
So they have this idea, which I was totally surprised to encounter, which is that natural law is not fixed, but rather our free creative intelligence is the foundation for natural moral law.
Persons have not only the right, but the obligation to understand and improve both biological and psychological well-being.
So we're called to create a world that is kind of good and better for us.
So again, here we're called to good stewardship, where we're called to perfect but to not destroy what God has created.
Yeah, not destroy what God has created.
So why is it that you can't get heirloom seeds?
Why is it we've empowered Monsanto to go after farmers that don't deal in their seeds that literally produce food that then don't produce seeds that are fertile?
In many ways, we have destroyed what God has created.
Let's make no mistake about it.
So as we think about those ideas, I want to get into kind of a case study, something that I've been thinking about for a couple of years, and talk a little bit more about sort of bioengineering and how we might hold on to these principles in these spaces.
So I'm going to talk about brain organoid systems, which are also called cerebral organoids.
Sometimes they're called mini-brains.
But these are multicellular systems that resemble organs at the earliest stages of embryonic development.
You can see I have a picture of one here.
One thing to note is that organoid mini brains are currently limited by plumbing issues, so they're really small.
This is because of lack of vasculature, and it restricts their size to be about the size of the pea.
A couple of things to note here.
So organoids are small, self-organizing 3D systems of cells that look like the earliest stages of development.
You can see here in this photo, let me see if I can.
Self-organizing 3D systems of cells.
Hmm.
Hmm.
P-sized.
Hmm.
Brain-like.
Hmm.
What kind of cells are we talking?
Use.
Nope.
Yeah.
Okay.
The important thing to note here is that we're comparing sections of a brain and an organoid.
And what you can see here is that the patterns look really similar, where we have the green cells on the outside and the red cells on the inside.
So these really important kind of structural similarities between brains and organoids make them particularly useful for studying different sort of models of the brain.
So given the right growth factors, they can exhibit these structural regions.
So you can see they show similar patterns as adult brains, and they can be probed directly while living and growing.
So that's what makes them a particularly useful engineering tool.
So there are a couple of ethical questions in this space, and I want to start with a few and kind of get into them from a number of different perspectives.
What are some of the ethical protections of growing human tissue?
Are there control issues for creating something that's living as opposed to something that's a fixed system?
And then finally, this question of future consciousness, anytime I talk about organoids or related systems, this is a big question that comes up.
So we'll talk about.
Because they don't understand consciousness.
Consciousness has never been able to be created or replicated.
Everything they've tried to replicate it with is a cheap imitation.
And I'm going to tell you right now that so many of the ethical questions they're going to ask here have already been openly and frequently, let me repeat that, openly and frequently violated by black projects, not just in this country, but around the world.
It's just, that's just the way it is.
It's just the truth.
Just pointing that out.
Talk about that.
So I want to begin with human dignity.
So what about human dignity?
Well, organoids lack an integrated body and thus seem to be not entirely human.
A good way to talk about them is to describe them potentially as a human artifact.
So an artifact is kind of a category for things that are not totally clear what they are, but they seem to be associated with this other category.
A couple of things that we know, organoids are made out of human cells.
They can be made out of human cells.
It can be made out of other cells, and we'll talk a little bit more about that.
They require engineering intervention to provide growth factors and mechanical stimulation to bring about this organ-like structure.
But they also have self-organizing principles from their organ-life growth pattern.
So each of these three sort of things that we know about organoids requires distinct ethical considerations.
So this is a place to begin.
Another thing to consider is moral status.
So when we're having conversations about what an organoid is and what about human dignity, it's important to understand what we're talking about when we talk about personhood.
So personhood is related to moral status.
Moral status are beings that have or require intrinsic consideration for their own good and are also called moral persons.
So they have a good that is for their own sake.
However, a moral consideration is an entity that might have interests that should be factored into the decision, things that require consideration for their own sake in terms of sensation of pleasure or pain or having a self-to-hold interest.
So moral status, full moral status is kind of the highest level of moral consideration.
The question of moral status might arise if an organoid has the same cognitive capacity as a human brain.
So we were talking.
I mean, the same.
What about similar?
What about consciousness in general?
I'm not even saying that they can create that.
I'm just saying that that is so broad, okay, and really can be interpreted in a number of ways.
Just point that out there.
Tell me a little bit about consciousness.
This is related to this question.
So kind of further getting into this, another related question is: does an organoid have a rational soul?
And if not, can it still have a mind?
So here we can begin with Aquinas, who says that rationality is a faculty of the soul.
For humans, when we're talking about matter and form, the body is the matter and the soul is the form.
The matter exists for the sake of the form.
The body exists for the sake of the soul and not vice versa.
So this is a really important point here.
The soul has two faculties, the intellect and the will.
And the soul cannot be created, but it's something that's instilled by God.
It's also immaterial.
First of all, I don't know that it's immaterial.
I don't know that it could be measured.
If you do, first of all, I do believe in some type of a force or a soul or a consciousness.
And I'm glad that at least this is being acknowledged in the presentation.
However, the people that are the true directed evolutionists and the true social Darwinists don't necessarily believe that.
Or in some cases, they also believe in dark occult stuff associated with this as well.
Here, an organoid could only have a soul if God gave it one.
An organoid lacks the growth trajectory of a human embryo.
It doesn't have that embodied experience.
So it is a different kind of thing.
So this is an ontological question that's important to ask because when asking what kind of thing it is, that's related to this question of whether or not I can have a rational soul.
So taking all of this together, it seems like a cerebral or a brain organoid is inadequate as matter for information by a rational soul because it doesn't have the same kind of thingness as a human person.
And only human persons have this or are given this rational soul.
So then we want to kind of return to this question of consciousness, mind, or memory.
So it's really difficult, if not impossible, to probe something immaterial like consciousness.
So when thinking about kind of the consciousness of an organoid, there is a potential if it's big enough, but not right now.
And I'll talk to you a little bit about why I make that claim.
So one potential problem that we should be thinking about is this idea of memory.
So organoids could potentially be programmed with memories, which would be pretty problematic.
So that's the whole thing.
These things are being programmed.
This is directed evolution.
If they're programmed with memories, that's problematic.
They already have been.
They're already in use.
The bio-nanotech that's been distributed is far beyond what we're discussing in the public arena.
Now, you know, I get it.
This is Notre Dame.
And obviously, the gentleman in the middle there is part of the priesthood.
I guess that's where we're getting this soul stuff.
But at the same time, you notice the idea of assimilating Christianity here.
Something to consider.
This comes from computational models of the brain called connectomics.
And one thing to note is that the connectome is a map of how neurons are connected.
And so that's what, if we understand this map, it could be something that we could then use to program something like an organoid.
So let's get a little bit into connectomics.
So connectomics holds this hypothesis that the wiring of the brain is how the mind is encoded.
Sebastian Sung, who is a big figure here, says that you are your connectome.
So if we can wire an organoid with portions of a connectome, can it replay someone's memories?
This is kind of a crazy question, but potentially given sort of our understanding of neuroscience, could it be something that we could do?
Likely, yes.
But this requires a couple of things.
One, it requires super high-resolution images of the brain, and it requires AI and computer vision to trace the wiring.
This is because The wiring of the brain is incredibly complex.
So about a millimeter cube of brain tissue is roughly a petabyte of data, which is a huge amount of data.
So that's really important to note.
And that is a huge, a petabyte of data.
I mean, you're talking well beyond the terabyte range and think they said a millimeter of the brain.
That's how complex we are organically.
And look, Bushnell calls us wet computing.
That high-resolution imaging is currently pretty difficult.
So as we're kind of considering these questions relating to organoids and even as we're sort of describing it as potentially a system that we can use to program, could we borrow something like AI ethics to apply to organoid systems?
Well, we have this computational model of the brain, this Connectome model, which is in alignment with sort of currently what's happening in neuroscience.
We've described organoids as providing the neural hardware that can be programmed using that biological reference.
One thing to note is that modern AI seeks to replicate specific parts of the brain, like elements of the visual cortex, not the entire thing.
And this is really similar to ways that organoids are used, where it's used to kind of replicate parts of the brain, but not the whole thing, particularly given its size limit.
Connectomence uses animal models to study neural circuitry for AI use.
So this is currently sort of how researchers are kind of navigating ethical questions.
They're saying, okay, if we're just concerned with the visual cortex, for example, a rat has a visual cortex, so we don't need to be using human tissue because there's a host of related ethical questions.
A couple of things to note here is that AI ethics literature focuses on the provenance of the data used for training.
It also focuses on the correctness of the operation of the system and policies regulating specific use cases for this technology.
So all of these things are things that can also apply in the organoid context and are something that can and should be borrowed.
I mean, they're extensively going into the fact that, hey, this is biological.
It's quote unquote alive.
And it's self-assembling.
And by the way, it can be programmed with memories.
And by the way, it's actually derived from human tissue.
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And by the way, if we were just looking at what?
The cortex, right?
We could do so with other mammals, including rats, which give, I guess, less ethical questions, obviously, as they're not human beings.
We will need to reconsider these ethics both for AI and organoids in the future, but it would be speculative to say when, particularly if we're thinking about questions of consciousness that might come up down the line, but we're not totally sure when.
If we're talking about current systems, I think these are a good set of guidelines.
So a couple of recommendations for ethical biotech research.
First, it's currently clear that organoids are not persons.
They lack this full moral status.
There may be some fear of potential to replay memories of the dead, which is an important consideration and an important ethical consideration that should be navigated.
We would say this is unadvised.
It's not very respectful of the dead, and it's clearly prohibited in the Bible.
So again, this is something like strange days.
You know, we're in, actually, we're on Rumble.
We could probably play Strange Days.
God, that's got to be like 94, 95.
I mean, probably 95 is what I would guess.
So let's see.
YouTube.com.
We're talking about memories.
Basically, this device that you would wear.
And I think this was predicted to be like 1999, like the turn of the millennium.
Like, obviously, that didn't happen.
So, strange days trailer.
And 1995, it was.
Ralph Vines, actually.
Let's see, throwback trailers.
Do we want to do the teaser trailer?
Yeah, let's go with teaser.
That's 90 seconds.
Have you ever checked in?
Have you ever wiretripped?
No?
A virgin brain.
Well, we're gonna start you off right.
This isn't like TV only better.
This is life.
Yeah, it's a piece of somebody's life, pure and uncut, straight from the cerebral cortex.
You're there.
You're doing it, seeing it, hearing it.
You're feeling it.
It's about the stuff that you can't have, right?
Like running into a liquor store with a 357 magnum in your hand, feeling the adrenaline pumping through your veins.
I can make it happen.
I can get you anything you want.
Just have to talk to me.
Talk to me.
I am your priest.
I'm your shrink.
I'm your main connection to the switchboard of souls.
I'm the magic man.
The Santa Claus of the subconscious.
You say it.
You even think it.
Yeah.
Are we beginning to see the possibilities here?
You know you want it.
I got to rewatch that movie because it also has a lot of like women empowerment themes.
And I'm not even sure if that scene is in the film.
Obviously, that was like kind of an advertisement for it.
Now that we did the teaser, maybe we'll do the.
And by the way, there's a whole black mirror episode where basically you're able to rewind and watch thoughts and you can jack.
You don't necessarily jack into somebody else's thoughts, but they project their thoughts onto a screen so you can then watch them first person style.
All right, so let's go back to that.
And which trailer do we want to do?
Let's go with this one because the other one's like two or three minutes long almost.
Hi, Atleni.
Here's what you have in mind.
In the future, ex-cop Lenny Nero buys and sells other people's experiences.
It's about the stuff that you can't have, right?
The forbidden fruit.
I am your main connection to the switchboard of souls.
But tonight, on the eve of the 21st century, in a city on the brink of chaos, Lenny just wiretripped into a murder.
I help me, Lenny.
Please pick up the boat.
Now, with his trusted friend, Mace, he's out to stop the killer before he strikes again.
No more games, whatever's going on.
You have to get out of here now.
It's the dark end of the street.
How do you like it now?
You know how high up the food change thing goes.
Give us the tape right now.
It's a setup.
It's conspiracy paranoid.
The issue isn't whether you're paranoid, Lenny.
The issue is whether you're paranoid enough.
This tape is a lightning bolt from God.
Safety's on.
A James Cameron production.
A Catherine Digelow film.
that's a throwback to like almost like an 80s style trailer it felt like but that's how corny trailers were at least it was uh widescreen but it's funny because you're integrated into like this weird 90s world because again it's on the eve it came out in 95 some probably means they shot like 93 obviously the technology wasn't anywhere close to being there you
Interesting, I didn't know that James Cameron was part of the production team or whether he got a producer credit.
But it's one of those things where yeah, you're jacking in to other people's experiences.
And by the way, like the helmet thing, you know, let's type that in.
Strange Days.
Strange Days Film Brain Device.
So it's a squid, it's called.
The electronic device, and there it is right there.
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So you put that thing on there.
Now, check it out.
Like they already have the human brain interfaces.
Human brain interface drones.
Where you can wear something like that or something like this for whole squadrons of drones.
See that?
Art imitating life, life imitating art.
There's no connection to technology and futurism and transhumanism and Hollywood entertainment, Jason.
You're kooky.
There's no partnership with the Pentagon and the Defense Department.
There's no university integration, Jason.
It's all right here in your face.
Right here in your face ski and hutch.
Also, going back to the bioethics quotes that I pulled from Ashley and O'Rourke at the beginning, attempts to improve the brain functionality will likely injure or mutilate it because the brain is already a highly sophisticated and very efficient system.
So we have to be very careful.
Yeah.
But having said that, organoids might be essentials to study diseases of the brain since we can kind of get some of that functionality.
Animal organoids are suggested as they sidestep some of these human ethical concerns.
And then finally, organoids could be used to run artificial neural networks, which might improve energy use for computation, for things like biological computing.
They might allow us to kind of compute faster with less energy, which could be a really cool thing.
So I'm going to leave us with this quote from Ethics of Healthcare by Ashley and O'Rourke, which I think does a great job of kind of directing us as bioengineers.
So they say that natural law should not be conceived of as a fixed pattern for human life to which human beings are forever confined.
Rather, the creator has made humane beings free and intelligent, and it's precisely this intelligent freedom that is human nature and the foundation for moral law.
Human intelligence, however, is not disembodied.
It depends on a brain and a body that have specific structure.
In caring for their total health, persons not only have the right, but the obligation to understand their psychological and biological structure and to improve themselves, even in ways that may seem novel to past generations.
Such improvements are good stewardship of the shared and divine creativity with which God has endowed humankind.
But I'll say this again, how much of it has empowered the average person?
Okay?
How has our standard of living, let alone our length of living, improved through this type of technology?
And I just have not seen it.
And then you look at the type of experimentation that has to go on for things like this to take place.
And you're just like, wait a minute, should I trust this?
No.
I mean, think about it.
She just went over the fact that we're likely to injure or devastate the brain when experimenting on it.
No, but hey, Dennis Bushnell's like, we got 200,000 people with brain chips over five years ago.
No big deal.
With that, I would like to thank you guys for listening today.
Thank you to the Computer Science and Engineering Department and also the Tech Ethics Center.
If you guys are interested in connecting, my info is on this slide here.
I'm going to be stepping from the realm of artifacts into the realm of organisms that do operate as an integrated whole.
And I tried to fit a lot in this talk, so buckle up.
Let's see if this works.
Okay.
So in the last 10 years, scientists have placed various components of the human brain into animals of other species, producing mice with human brain cell grafts, rhesus macaques with a key human neurodevelopmental gene, and most recently, cinnamogous monkey embryos with human stem cells inserted into them.
All what's just public.
All what's just public.
Again, I talk about chimeras because they're real.
And now, again, you have the academics talking about it openly, but it's in a positive connotation or in an academic field, so it's okay, and nobody's really paying attention because less than 100 people have watched this on YouTube.
And less than that, even grasp where this is or where it could go.
The mice with human neural graphs outperformed normal lab mice in learned maze navigation.
The genetically modified macaques showed improved reaction time and short-term recall.
The human monkey embryos demonstrated cooperation between the human and monkey cell types.
These experiments are raising important questions.
Before the age of biotechnology, mind found its expression in naturally evolved organic bodies.
But now we're creating new bodies that did not evolve as coordinated systems.
So how can we discern the moral significance of these new creatures?
As developing individuals of one species receive the cells and genes of another, what kind of being results?
Could the transfer of neurologically significant human genes, cells, or tissues into a non-human animal cause that animal to be humanized?
What is the moral status of such beings?
Clarity on the morality of these experiments calls us to return to the perennial questions of metaphysics, epistemology, and ethics with increasing urgency.
In my view, the biological and therefore moral significance of transplanted bodily components, such as genes, cells, or tissue grafts, can only be understood in light of their context within the whole organism and its environment.
So as we consider here the case of neural chimeras specifically, we'll seek a broader vision of organismic unity and complexity in order to estimate the mental properties that can be plausibly attributed to a biological entity.
What can we plausibly attribute to a biological entity that we've created that's part human, especially in the neural regard?
I mean, I just think of horror shows.
I can only imagine the biological horror shows.
I would think it's hard for anybody to take the moral high ground with those type of horror shows.
Especially a novel or ambiguous one such as interspecies chimeras.
So in this presentation, I'll define what chimeras are and note a few key themes in our experimental observations of them.
Then drawing on Aristotelian metaphysics and existential phenomenology, I want to delineate four principles that are important for understanding the ontological implications of these experiments.
And in the end, I'll close by suggesting two guidelines for human-animal chimera research and propose some questions for further inquiry, both experimental and philosophical.
So let's begin by defining some terms.
So a chimera is an organism produced by combining cells or tissues from at least two distinct organisms.
The chimera is considered interspecies when the combined cells or tissues were derived from organisms that belong to different species.
And note here that chimera is actually a very broad term that can include not only the mouse with a human neural tissue graft, but also a human patient with a porcine heart valve.
It also includes most mothers who, interestingly, it's been noted that even in women who died when they're 80, 90 years old, cells from their pregnancies are noted to continue existing in their brains that somehow cross the placental barrier and integrate it into their organism.
So chimeras, they can be created at embryonic stages.
One common technique is to inject pluripotent stem cells, not necessarily embryonic stem cells, but they can be, from one organism into the blastocyst of another organism.
And a blastocyst is a very early embryonic stage that's pre-implantation.
So this technique for producing embryonic chimeras can also be coupled with gene editing.
Scientists can inhibit specific developmental programs.
So you're looking at, I mean, this is something that looks so similar to the xenotransplantation.
Let's do it live.
Xenotransplantation FDA approved.
And we're doing it right here.
That's, yes.
I mean, literally, take a look.
That's xenotransplantation.
Okay.
And now take a look at this.
Just putting it out there.
I mean, that's what you're looking.
I mean, that's chimeric.
That's what xenotransplantation is.
Such as the generation of a pancreas by knocking out the genes that control those processes.
This creates a developmental niche or a functional vacancy in the embryo, which the injected donor stem cells then are able to occupy.
The chimeric organism would then have an organ derived almost entirely from those donor cells.
And this technique is called blastocyst complementation.
So now that we've defined some terms, I want to point out two important observations that have cropped up in experiments with interspecies chimeras.
First, there are many interspecies biological barriers to cellular compatibility.
It can be very easy for science fiction to play up the possibility of monstrous part human, part animal creatures, but the science actually tells a different story.
Chimeric experiments have emphasized that it is not so easy to incorporate cells from one species into the body of another.
The literature calls these interspecies barriers to biological compatibility.
This is because cells compete for survival and signaling dominance.
They develop on different time scales.
They play different roles.
They exist in different states of potentiality.
And they utilize different molecular and physical signals.
The list goes on and on.
So for these reasons, it's been difficult to achieve significant levels of chimerism between all but the most closely related species, such as mice and rats.
Human animal chimeras produced have generally not even survived past very early embryonic stages.
At least that we know.
Experiments also suggest at least that we know of.
Okay.
And believe me, there are interspecies barriers to biological compatibility.
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But the stuff that has gone on behind closed doors, you know, I'm sorry, I'm extremely skeptical of.
We've got about five minutes left in the broadcast.
A couple other stories that I did want to hit on.
This one in particular.
Space becomes new theater of war.
Israel shoots down a ballistic missile that was traveling 62 miles above the earth.
And I keep trying to tell people that space has become weaponized.
The Israeli defense revealed last week that its aero missile defense system took down an aerial threat allegedly fired by Iran-backed Houthi rebels in Yemen.
Now, again, I don't know that that's where it's from, but I'm telling you right now that space warfare is definitely going to be one of the new theaters out there, and that has everything to do with the communication systems that are being put up there by the Muskerdo and other, by the Muskernuts and other.
I mean, and I mean, you look over to the side here, by the way, and there is Elon Musk's tumultuous first year at Twitter.
Charts reveal how the platform is now worth less than half of what he paid.
First of all, he didn't pay for it.
He had other investors come in.
And it's a road to this everything app.
He's already talked about it.
It's the road to digital currency.
It's the road to a social credit score.
It's the road to slavery, really.
Elon Musk launches sarcastic AI chatbot grok on Twitter and claims it will answer spicy questions.
Ridiculous.
You know, I haven't messed around with the chatbots at all, with the AI.
Maybe that's something we need to do.
Maybe we need to do it live, like when we took the YouTube re-education camp quiz on you're naughty.
You promoted medical misinformation.
You played a doctor talking about Ivermectin.
How dare you?
And it's funny because, again, some people seem to be able to get away with it on their channel.
Others do not.
The selective enforcement is real.
The demonetization is real.
And the algorithmic suppression, even on, I was talking to one of the guys that worked at RVM yesterday and how the whole model of being able to promote yourself on social media, even if you were willing to do the paid ads, is just dead.
It's dead, dead, dead.
All of them want to keep you on platform now, anyway.
But at the same time, in order to keep you on platform, you need to be able to go to news sites and content sites.
But then those content sites and news sites get delisted.
They get shadow banned.
They get regulated.
They get the whole shebang diddlyangoat.
And then what?
Like, it's so hard to grow this channel.
And I'm not whining about it.
I'm just telling you.
Boots on the ground, so hard.
I mean, what am I going to have to do?
Am I going to have to go out there and get in a tuck swimsuit at a city council meeting like Alex Stein?
Do I have to get in the boxing ring against somebody like Alex Stein?
Like, I don't want to do any of those things.
I'm not Mr. I'm not Stevie Showboat over here.
I'm Larry laid back most of the time.
Right?
Randy, I'd rather not.
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But more of us need to be, you know, Sammy, step up to the plate, right?
Shiz is real.
It's the real deal out there.
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But I was watching some cuts from Shade the Motion Picture just today.
And that film holds up.
I mean, we're sitting here talking about geoengineering and bioengineering throughout the show.
Well, we covered it there.
And we covered it big time, big time, with some classic voices that are no longer with us today.
Jordan Maxwell in there, Murphy in there.
It's killing me.
We need a revelation, not a revolution.
Anthony Hilder makes an appearance in there.
G. Edward Griffin, I believe, do we have G?
Is G. Edward in that?
I don't know that G. Edward Griffin's in that at all.
Webster Tarpley is.
G. Edward Griffin's in Invisible Empire, a new world order to find.
Another film that I think holds up, stands up.
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