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And I, you know, the months go by, the days, the weeks, the hours, and then the months, and really the years.
It's hard to believe, but I think that Steve and I have now known each other well over five years.
Steve Poikinen first became aware of him through action for Assange, obviously Slow News Day, and now AM Wake Up every morning over at Rockfin.
And geez, man, there's a lot going on, especially on the left-wing side of things, where traditionally, I guess, is where you started at least.
Probably come a long way from there.
Let's talk about it.
October 9th, I'm now tempted to make my way out to Philadelphia on short notice.
And I'm assuming that what we're going to see is RFK Jr. either plan to run as an independent or take one of the third parties that is on the ballot in all 50 states.
Perhaps, I mean, throwing everybody for a loophole and libertarian green, who knows?
I think Green has already stated who they're going to have.
I think Green is obviously at least branding a better fit for him.
Libertarian, I don't think is necessarily a bad thing.
Completely independent, I obviously believe there are going to be struggles to get on the ballot.
So to break that down and so much more is Steve Poikinen from AM Wake Up.
Thank you so much for joining us.
Steve, thoughts?
Well, brother, it is going to be an interesting little ride, isn't it?
There's a number of things that RFK Jr. didn't really get around to addressing when he was still ostensibly going to run as a Democrat.
There's a bunch of policy positions that he holds that libertarian friends of mine that I've spoken to are very standoffish about him.
Of course, there's a lot of things to like about the guy, especially in terms of his positions throughout the lockdowns, throughout, you know, that he wrote a heck of an intro book.
If you had not been around and hadn't had access to a lot of the information about Fauci going into COVID-19, he's got a book that is a great like, hey, get yourself caught up.
And, you know, you can then kind of assess where you're at from there.
In terms of the third party run, I got to tell you, man, I am stunned that we're about to go into election season 2024.
And there are people who, even if they come from political dynasty families, think that there's a pathway to the White House via a third party in an oligarchy.
Because Jimmy Carter told us we were in an oligarchy over a decade ago.
And in the ensuing decade, the only thing that has happened is that the oligarchy has found ways to further set itself in place.
And so it is somewhat mystifying to me that we have someone in RFK Jr. who, by all accounts, knows this, you know, trying to make one more stab at let's vote our way out of an oligarchy.
You know, I had a similar conversation with my brother yesterday.
We hadn't talked in several weeks.
I had mentioned to him that RFK had just made this announcement and Biden has just gotten progressively worse.
I mean, just when you think it can't get worse, of course it can.
People think they've hit rock bottom.
They don't know.
People think they've hit rock bottom.
They don't know.
We've not hit rock bottom yet.
But my brother basically said to me, I mean, come on, Jason.
He comes from the Kennedy family.
Do you think he gives a flying fuck about you?
And I go, I got to believe there's still some good people out there.
And he's like, he's married to Cheryl Hines.
He's like, we all saw how that played out.
I think that's a valid, you know, concern, obviously, because, you know, if she was going to demand people take hate and lie shots to come to a party, what does that mean about her husband?
Did he take the hate and lie shots?
Like, I mean, that's never really been clarified, quite frankly.
There's big problems there.
There's obviously big problems with Israel.
And not only Israel, but, you know, the fact that you don't have these upper echelon people even acknowledging that that state is running the automated sharpshooter checkpoint system where an AI gun decides whether you live or die at a checkpoint.
That should never be acceptable, Steve, especially not in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.
It should never be acceptable that you now have a leader, Netanyahu, that bragged about having a 98% database on all of his citizens' medical records for the last 20 plus years and wants to put a genetic database on top of that.
It shouldn't be acceptable that the Israeli people were actually subject to some of the harshest restrictions via certificates and passports, aka hate and lies.
So, you know, those are things I haven't heard anybody talk about.
And I think that those are definitely things that have to be on the table.
Well, they should be the relationship that he seems to have with Rabbi Shmooley, who under any ordinary circumstance, everybody who listened to him would be like, oh, that's a race pimp.
Oh, yeah, no, I've heard that rhetoric before.
But for some reason, you can't because Rabbi, I don't know.
But that guy, the relationship that he has with that guy is troublesome to say the least.
But then he comes out and says, there will be no greater champion for Israel than Bobby.
And that's not performative campaign nonsense.
That's somebody who I believe is genuinely sincere.
You don't call yourself the greatest champion, the person that they would select to represent the entirety of the army.
You know, okay, well, if you fight my champion, then you win, then we lay down.
If my champion wins, then you lay down.
And that's who the champion is.
And that's who Bobby wants to be.
Well, that goes beyond even the campaign season.
Israel has a right to exist and we are allied.
It's our only democracy in the Middle East.
That kind of stuff that we're used to that you can kind of go, ah, well, it is sort of captured by that lobby and you do have to play the game a little bit.
Stuff that you could kind of excuse.
It's a little bit over the top.
Well, I think that you have to, like, first of all, let's say President Burmes or just presidential candidate Burmese.
I'm not going to say that we're going to cut off every relationship with Israel or Saudi Arabia.
That relationship is going to change heavily.
I can assure you of that.
But at the same time, I'm not foolish enough to think that I don't want any type of alliances or communication windows in the Middle East, especially with two of the most powerful nations out there.
I can tell you what I'm not going to do.
I'm not going to try to provoke or make a rash decision in either Syria or Afghanistan or Yemen or I mean any of these nations, right?
And that's the thing.
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Like, you know, I had Flynn on my other show this week for the first time.
So the first time that, you know, Flynn came on and, you know, it's the making sense of the madness deal.
So I'm not in my hat and my shirt.
I'm in my haircut and my jacket.
And at one point, you know, and I've talked to Flynn just really slightly behind the scenes.
Not, you know, I've never had a sit down with him or anything like that.
But when I was talking about what I really think Donald Trump's only crimes were, I said not committing enough war crimes.
And by the time I got to and exposing the media military industrial complex, he was trying to talk over me not committing any war crimes, not committing any war crimes.
So I came back and listen, I'm going to be fair.
I go, look, I agree he took down on the military-industrial complex to some level, but there were decisions in Syria and Iran in particular that I didn't like.
And, you know, he nodded to both those things.
And the thing is that if you're going to have an honest discussion, you have to acknowledge there's no reason we should have done that to Solomani.
You have to acknowledge that the Douma attack did not happen.
And to this day, Trump is acting like it happened.
All right.
You have to acknowledge that Trump talked about Saudi Arabia in a light about 9-11, alluded to we might know.
And then when he was asked about it over a year ago at the Live Golf Course, he said it's never been investigated and it's a damn shame.
Like, whoa, it's like, easy, Chuck.
Wait, we haven't investigated that one?
Like, that should have been at the height of your administration, right?
And that's the other thing.
You could have Bannon snap off about how on day one we're getting JFK, RFK, MLK, Malcolm X, and even Epstein files.
We'll see about that.
But where's the 9-11 stuff?
Everybody acknowledges that 9-11 is the turning point and the excuse for so much of this.
In fact, Matt Taibbi was on Allison Morrow's program this week.
And at the tail end, when I was trying to get her to ask about 9-11 to Matt Taibbi, he started talking about 9-11 as like the birth of the security state in its form.
Well, if, I mean, when Tucker came out and said, well, you can't talk about Boeing 7, I think that was one of those things that let a lot of people go, oh, okay, I guess we could talk about this now.
Because the floodgates have sort of opened with the people who were mainstream or, you know, got a little bit on the periphery and then became the new online mainstream.
That crowd, they're starting to acknowledge a little bit more reality than they have been for perhaps the last, oh, 22 years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's, that's encouraging.
And listen, that's the other thing, right?
Because if you think we're never going to get anywhere and we're just preaching to the choir and there is no piercing the mainstream, or there are no good people, I don't know what to tell you.
I'm not telling you to ride the hero train, but we also have to be reasonable, right?
You got to hope somebody like a Flynn, who was in, you know, high levels of the Defense Department, the highest levels, if you will, you got to hope that he was just so sick of the corruption.
He was really trying to clean them out.
And that's why they used the Logan Act against him.
I mean, they hadn't.
I mean, that's how I look at it, right?
He must have been a threat, or you don't roll out the Logan Act.
And once again, the guy who came up with that was Joey B when there was still a little sharpness to that pencil, everybody.
That was literally like in the throes of the last days of the gangster Joe Biden, because that's really who he represented back in the day.
People have to realize that he's not a dumb, he wasn't a dumb guy.
He's not a bumbling idiot.
Just currently is in the throes of fucking dementia.
Okay.
So, like, back in the day, they would go, hey, Joe, you're really corrupt and hang out with gangsters.
How do we do this?
Logan act.
No, I mean, look, that's that's fair.
I think the one thing that we know that history has told us for certain is that once cowards and proven criminals and people who know that they're going to be caught start to feel that way, like the walls might be closing in a little bit, then they act in pretty predictable, pretty over-the-top manners.
And Logan act, that's a pretty over-the-top man.
You know, so it tracks certainly.
And I'm not saying, you know, who or what Michael Flynn is or any of that kind of stuff.
I don't know.
But what I do know is when people with something to hide and something to protect start to get twitchy and nervous, they tend to do things like that.
And it can, you can even just be hinting.
They impeached Donald Trump over a phone call that took the about a thing that happened in real life that we all saw on videotape.
We saw Joey B. Braggin in front of the Council on Foreign Relations.
How many times have we both played that over the years?
And they still impeached Donald Trump over it.
Now, the corrupt demanded gangster is still technically president, and they're trying to make it illegal for his main opposition, the guy who, again, got impeached for disclosing the fact that the guy who's currently the president is a corrupt gangster.
That guy, trying to make it illegal for him to run again.
And then they're giving us this like island of misfit toys as a Republican field to, I don't know.
I watched two or three clips of the debate.
I saw the Chris Christie stand-up routine.
That was terrible.
He's awful.
He literally looks like, where's the deep fake of him as the penguin in Batman 2?
Like, he's perfect for that role.
Anybody out there doing the deep fakes, what are you waiting for?
Let's make that one happen.
He looks like he's literally straight out of a Tim Burton film.
No makeup necessary.
Yeah, no, And then, you know, there's Vivek, who couldn't be more of an empty bumper sticker if he tried.
I don't.
And you had mentioned.
He's hard though, man.
I want to get him on, or I want to get a moment at least with him.
I want to rap battle him.
That's what I want to do.
I want to rap battle Vivek.
Okay.
I'm going to issue that challenge now.
I will not utter a single criticism of you before, during, or after.
So he agrees to the rap battle.
It's just silence, you know, forever.
He agrees to the rap battle.
We settle it on stage like gentlemen.
And then we go our separate ways.
There we go.
Look, let's talk about him because he's obviously the actual frontrunner other than Trump.
They tried to push DeSantis.
He's not there.
Like the donor base likes him, but most people don't like him because the charisma is not there.
And quite frankly, they realize that he's more of a politician and really not as sharp as a guy like Vivek.
Like Vivek is really great on his feet.
Say what you want about him.
He's ready for an answer.
He's got it pre-packaged.
He's smiling the entire time.
He's looking at the camera and he's saying things the other guys won't.
I have now watched both debates.
I didn't catch the other one live, but I did catch it.
And the push is Nikki Haley and Pence as the backup play.
They love to be able to, you know, have Pence ride all the good things from MAGA, even though, like, on the other side, they're talking MAGA extremists.
I, listen, I've said it.
Call War Roundups00:06:42
You know, this.
We talked about this well before the 2020 elections, but when it happened, I told you, if you ran in 2024, they're going to put him in prison.
I'm talking about Donnie T.
And now all signs point to that.
I think it's extremely dangerous.
I've never held water or wept over Rudy Giuliani.
I'm one of the few people that have reported on him being the $2 million bagman for pardons.
You know, obviously, I've been critical because of 9-11.
Don't like the guy.
Don't think that he should have been found guilty of something he wasn't allowed to defend himself on that he clearly was not guilty of because he has attorney-client privilege and not only that, executive privilege.
Steve, thoughts again, they've turned it into what Donald Trump said it was, which was a political winch on.
It's what anyone who had two brain cells left to rub together at the time looked at and went, oh, okay, well, this is, you know, political partisan maneuvering via lawfare and nothing but.
And now we've entered into this era where it's politics of spite, politics of vengeance, politics by vengeance, which is something that is incredibly dangerous because that's usually the thing that happens right before you have everybody out sharpening the machete, getting ready to go walk out into the street.
I think that's what they want, though, right?
Because it's not like you could have a real civil war in this country.
I've had this discussion now with a lot of people, I think pasta included.
But you're talking about an era where there were 30 million people and about 10% took part.
Okay.
And a million people died.
So that's about one out of three, everybody, just to let everybody know.
But at the same time, transportation is very different.
Weapons are very different.
In fact, the weapons that they have are the same as their enemy.
In other words, there is no military with greater weaponry than these guys.
It's horses, it's rifles.
It's the same thing.
We're not there anymore.
Now we're really closer to more than 400 million people here.
It's 30 million in New York State alone.
There will never be a true civil war.
I've often said now, like, if you actually believe that an insurrection could have happened in D.C. and people went in there with guns and everything ablaze and killed senators and congressmen, the whole nine, took over the building, like actually an insurrection.
Does anybody think they run the country?
Does anybody think that they're in charge now, everybody?
No.
I'll tell you what happens.
That place gets swept within 24 to 72 hours max in a style you could never believe.
There's martial law declared, massive roundups, and an atmosphere now of, I would say, dire political oppression to the point where those roundups will continue.
Thought crime will become real.
And anybody who opposes them to any level will just be taken, rounded up, and they'll deep fake their ass into something horrific.
Like, that's where we're at.
We're running, man, everybody.
Hate to tell you, we're here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're right.
And there's no, there's no, you can't get a civil war out of a nation of people who have had the standard American diet for the last 60 years.
That's just not going to happen.
There's not a healthy enough population to wage something like a civil war.
There's not enough cohesion for any particular side to form up for a civil war.
The Republican Party's fractured, the Democrat Party's fractured, the independent voters are scattered all over the place.
The biggest block of voting age U.S. citizens are people who don't vote, followed by independents, followed by Republicans and Democrats.
No, I get it, man.
Like, we're here.
We're totally, that's the thing.
There is no chance of the civil war, but if people are stupid enough to try to LARP, and you were there with, look what happened to the LARPers, everybody.
You know, do I think that Tario should be in jail at all, let alone 22 years?
No.
Do I think Joe Biggs should be in jail at all at this point?
No.
Again, these people should have had speedy trials, but that's not what they sold you on.
And now you get a couple of LARPers against some Antifa LARPers because that's all they are too, right?
And all of a sudden, again, pockets of martial law, roundups.
They don't even need a seminal violent event, period.
You know what I'm saying, Steve?
So, and the illusion of some kind of civil war.
Guys, even the things that happened in Oregon and Seattle and New York and California, does not a civil war make?
Does not a civil war make even close?
That's the chaz.
Does not a civil war make as ridiculous as that was, Steve?
So the chaz thing was a LARP in and of itself because you can't take over a public square.
You can't like claim for the people something that already technically sort of belongs to you.
Just because you put a half-dead tomato plant in the ground doesn't make you a farmer.
I don't know why we have to explain this to people in 2023.
But we live in the upside down.
So it's one of those things.
No, it doesn't a civil war make.
And besides that, what they want is total apathy.
I think what they want is just apathetic compliance more than anything.
And that's why there's, you know, confusing to soul rendering psyop after psyop after psyop.
You don't even get to come up and catch a breath before you've got Mexican aliens getting $200 billion for a cokehead in Ukraine.
That's the reason we have to do that is because the future of Taiwan is at stake.
Just ask Lindsey Graham.
He said that on TV the other day.
We can't give up on Ukraine because Taiwan.
No, that's going to show weakness.
That's the whole thing.
We're in an inverted reality that if we're not waging war or helping to wage war, somehow someone else is going to wage war on one of our interests.
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We can't let them wage war against.
And I mean, and we're never going to call it war again.
It's not, it hasn't been war for decade upon decade.
We're going to call it the war on things.
This is the war on communism, right?
That's the new thing.
They've got their ism back.
No one even knows what communism is anymore.
They don't even realize.
You know, I had this great conversation with Sam Husseini.
I'm like, people don't even realize that during the Nixon era, the deregulation in China was all Rockefeller and Kissinger run.
It was so they could bring in their soft capitalism under one authoritarianism and allow it to grow with massive deregulation and growth.
We were going to buy all their goods.
So they got all the Coca-Cola they can handle, all the Levi blue jeans you could imagine, every access to electronic gadgets.
Now that our companies and their companies are going to work synergistically, we'll use South Korea as one of the big conduits for that technology, make that the apex of this whole deal, and it will explode.
And what we'll get in return is a creep to the authoritarianism that China was born and bound into culturally.
You know, and that's what people don't get because in this country, we've never had that type of culture that is so massive and so invasive because it's almost Unitarian, right?
I want everybody to know it's the people moving to China now.
That's a new thing for hundreds, if not obviously thousands of years, just like in this country before we came over with the pilgrims.
And then all of a sudden we said, come on in, huddled masses, all the way back at Ellis Island in the early 1900s.
People have to realize that all of a sudden culture, there's a huge melting pot.
It wasn't like that in China.
And they're 1.2 billion strong.
But I'll tell you what we got.
We got their government.
We got that Zhijing ping style.
Hey, we got to stop this misinformation.
We got to share all this technology.
Five eyes.
Like, went and saw Tim Dillon last week.
Okay.
And he made the TikTok joke.
He's talking about TikTok.
It's like a lot of controversy on TikTok.
People are real worried about China spying on them through TikTok.
You know, because they're spying on them Chinese style.
He's like, it's okay.
Your own government admits to spying on everything you do.
But no, no, no.
They're doing it Chinese style.
And I mean, that's the big joke, right?
Like, it's not even, it's all beyond nation states at this point, Steve.
I've been making that argument for years now.
The people who actually manipulate the levers of power globally think that nation states are a quaint little thing to keep us divided.
It's beyond parody at this point because Henry Kissinger's protege, I think we'd know Eric Schmidt, the former CEO of Google.
He's now running the national security on the board of the National Security Advisory Council for AI and all that sort of stuff.
He's effectively a partner of the Chinese government.
And has been for a very long time.
For a very long time.
In fact, that veneer was kind of shattered when the media would report on some stuff.
It wasn't in our media.
It was in European media.
But when Dragonfly got revealed to the world, that was the censored version of Google for China.
There was a small controversy, and Schmidt stepped down from his CEO position over at Google, and he let Sergey Brin come in.
This is just after he puts out, what's that book I always talk about?
The digital.
I have it somewhere right here.
He did it with another member of the CFR.
It's killing me that I don't have it right in front of me.
Doesn't matter.
The guy, literally, a steering committee member of Bilderberg gets asked about this.
And he goes, I don't know anything about it.
He's like, Sergey Brin's in charge now.
Meanwhile, he just took a different position in Alphabet where he oversaw more.
And just like you said, that was all the way back in 2017, now well over six years ago.
They'd been working on it for years.
So yes, China is that partnership with Google, with our own national security apparatus.
Yeah, and they're supposed to be in direct competition with each other for asymmetrical supremacy in the AI race.
And in reality, there's a couple of Chinese companies and a couple of American companies that have this special hug.
It's a special hug.
And that's the backbone and the framework to your upcoming technocratic prison.
Nation states are gone.
They're done.
They've been trying to unwind them since 1972 when the Club of Rome came out and said, these are the limits to growth.
Here's what this is going to do.
Here's how we have to get rid of this nation state apparatus and have a pan-global structure that operates in technocratic efficiency.
And people went, I'm going to vote harder.
I mean, look, man, like when you say something like that and you talk about the early 70s in the club of Rome, I can't help but think about the United Nations and especially during the 1970s where it really starts to take off.
It's in New York.
And, you know, I think to myself, I often talk about it and talked about it for a long time.
I want out of the UN and the UN out of the United States.
I want that to be a museum to show all their global war crimes, which should be a mandatory thing.
If you can't make it, kids across the country, you should get that New York trip in.
I'm getting a nice virtual tour.
Okay, we can do the virtual tour of that one.
Okay.
But then, you know, every once in a while, like I see something like Jimmy Dore getting to speak out against the Ukraine recently at the UN.
And that's tough for me because I want Jimmy Dore to do that.
I just don't want to give any, same thing with Jeffrey Sachs.
I don't agree with the Sachs on everything, but he tells a lot more of the truth than anybody else out there at the UN.
But the venue that's literally 99 plus percent poison doesn't need to exist at all.
We can all talk to one another.
The problem is it gives this guise of governance, right?
And that we should all be doing this.
And that's really what it was set up for.
I mean, before the COVID 1984 nightmare, Steve, a lot of people would argue, you know, it's just kind of a paper tiger and it's there for NATO.
Well, NATO is no paper tiger, everybody.
And after COVID came into play, the UN via the WHO was no paper tiger either.
And it literally came down to we are global government.
Yeah, and we're underwritten by the Bank of International Settlements.
And all decision making flows from here.
There's central bankers, the central bank of central banks, and then the people in various, you know, still operating under the guise of nation states, that enact all of these megalomaniacal pigwims.
And we're asked to believe that an organization like NATO, which counts Colombia as one of its member nations, now correct me if I'm wrong, but Colombia has nothing to do with the North Atlantic, but it's been a while since geography, so I could have missed something.
We're supposed to believe that NATO is just what?
A, a defensive alliance, B, is there mostly for strategy and planning?
And C, isn't, you know, overflowing with actual Nazis.
And then, of course, they, you know, applaud one in the Canadian parliament.
And then it starts this sort of like Nazi avalanche of, oh, whoops.
But once again, it's kind of like this thing where you don't think it can get any more odd or you can hit rock bottom lower.
I mean, these guys don't care at this point.
Like, I think about what we're talking about now.
Like, not only did they do that, but they did it with Zelensky on the floor at the same time.
Doing one of those, too.
And it wasn't a lot of people.
I watched the whole clip.
A lot of people just kind of saw the headline.
It wasn't one standing ovation.
It was two.
They gave the man two separate standing ovations.
If you actually watched it beyond the thing, everybody is smiling.
Everybody is cheering.
And again, I think we had this conversation, maybe the last time you were on, how America Heroes channel is really like the history channel of old and talks a lot about Hitler and like has the blueprints of Hitler.
And I talked about how during the Blueprints of Hitler, there was a large section.
It was recolorized World War II footage of the Nazis in Ukraine.
Okay.
And being applauded there.
They loved them there.
Like it was part of, and the other thing was that was really, I mean, it's still very relevant to me now, is that before the United Nations, they had the League of Nations and similar things in similar regions were going on before World War II and being discussed on the floor of the League of Nations.
So, you know, again, this cycle of history repeating itself, this cycle of people not being able to believe how could everybody go with a Nazi philosophy.
Take a look around, mother truckers.
Well, it's embedded into us culturally now for all what?
Going on 70 years?
We're almost 70 years from a little bit more.
Am I most 80 years from Operation PayPlip at this point?
And we have entire institutions that are part and parcel of the results of pay-per-clip.
You don't get Werner von Braun in charge of NASA without it.
You don't.
You don't get what's his name as UN Secretary General.
There's all these pictures throughout the 50s, Valdis, Waldheim.
That's right.
50s, 60s, even into the 70s of these people in international bodies and U.S. institutions that have these Nazi SS dueling scars on their cheeks.
It's a realization that people are starting to come to at this point.
That the Nazis themselves, they lost the battlefield of World War II, and then they gained the rest of the globe in terms of positions of prominence, ability to kind of settle in and let the ideology sort of prevail.
And I don't mean, you know, we don't like the Jews or exterminate the Jews because they clearly found a way to work that one out.
They clearly found a way.
When you've got Igor Kolomoyski, who has three passports, Ukrainian, Swiss, and Israeli, who is funding both the Azov Battalion and right sector, which are the two like hardest core Nazi groups.
And you can going back to the 2014 Maidan coup, that when you've got Zelensky himself, who is on camera with a handful of the most notorious open were actual proud descendants of Nazis, Nazis.
It's not a mistake.
It's not a charade.
It's not even a game anymore.
They're just like, yeah, no, this is the fourth Reich, and it has nothing to do with religion.
It has everything to do with totalitarian control over all of you peasants.
Thanks.
That's right.
And, you know, they've utilized, you know, you talked about Waldheim.
And it was so known of how bad Waldheim was.
Howard Stern, when he used to have a sack, used to do Valdheim with Fred.
Fred would act as Kurt Waldheim.
And they would talk about the Nazi problem.
And back in the day, just so everybody knows, you know, I often talk about how Schwarzenegger was on the cover of Time magazine with Bloomberg rocking the death's head.
Not the skull and bones, guys, the Nazi death's head on a giant belt buckle.
Okay.
He can sit there and cry about his dad online all night.
All he wants now.
It's all bullshit.
He gave, and this is him retracting in the Jewish Journal.
It was a mistake.
He gave a wedding toast to Kurt Waldheim that was quoted in the papers talking about how he and Maria Shriver, who he was marrying at the time, loved him.
We don't care.
We love Kut.
Okay?
So just to let everybody, this is all an act now.
That's Soft Arnold.
That's Hollywood Arnold.
That's post.
There was a time where you could really see he was hungry for even more power.
When he was Governor Arnold, he really wanted it, man.
He said, maybe I can be the next guy.
He realized that dream was done.
He's actually putting out the Nazi agenda by acting like he hates the Nazis.
Because as he acts like he hates the Nazis, he talks about that horrible rhetoric and how it needed to be silenced and how you need to be silenced too.
Screw your freedom.
Screw your freedom.
You take the IG Farben shot.
Now, I'm sorry, but if you're, you know, anti-authoritarian or fascist or totalitarian, the last thing that you want to utter is screw your freedom.
It's one of those things that is just so contradictory that it has to be, it has to be, I don't know, not dismissed because the guy means it.
You know what I mean?
But you just, you have to freaking laugh at it because it's as soon as they told everybody to put a freaking mask on, theirs came off.
And it's been off ever since.
And they have exposed themselves to be demented, doddering Nazi fools who have to, what, pull a fire alarm so that nobody notices that you cut a backroom deal with Kevin McCarthy to keep the Ukraine thing funded and everybody thinks you just tried to stop the vote when now all of the conversation is about the stupid fire alarm and not the backroom deal to keep Ukraine funded.
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And by the way, shout out to Matt Gates.
You know, I don't like propping up any of these guys and I've had my issues with them in the past, but the guy has gone way far than most, like Thomas Massey all the time.
Thomas Massey bringing up Irian Contra at the Garland hearings and really going for his throat and saying this is unacceptable.
Thank you.
But Gates is trying to get McCarthy out of there and he's for real about that.
He realizes this isn't going to stop unless you get him out of there.
And he's one of the only guys with a name and a face within that unit that is actually saying that.
And they need to.
You know, you saw Cruelle Deville, aka MGT, buddy up to McCarthy, peanut butter jelly style.
I'm still waiting for the 40 hours of January 6th footage, everybody.
Remember that promise?
Remember that?
Hey, everybody, it's October.
And people are in prison now.
Didn't get that story.
I saw a picture of Kevin McCarthy.
I think he was doing a Maui thing, and he's at the press conference, and he's wearing a polo shirt.
And I look at the polo shirt, and I was like, hey, wait a minute.
I've seen that because I live right up the road from it now.
That's the Bohemian Grove logo.
He could just go out on a press conference with that shirt.
Do that.
Matt Gates, I think, we all know this, but Matt Gates didn't want McCarthy a speaker in the first place.
He got his arm twisted in order to come around on him.
I remember I was telling Garland Nixon on his show Critical Hour: I was like, dude, as soon as the money gets mad enough at Matt Gates, McCarthy will be speaker.
As soon as the money gets mad enough at McCarthy, he'll be out of there.
And I think one's, you know, I said at the time, I think McCarthy's going to wind up being speaker, but I don't think he's going to make it through the 2024 election because they don't, they're not, they're just not behind him enough.
And there's enough people in at least the Freedom Caucus that have their own aspirations that ousting McCarthy and hanging it on Ukraine, which is Joe Biden's unpopular war, might be the way to do that.
I mean, I'm just hoping to God that in the next 12 months, it's all not over, Steve.
You know, we didn't even really hint at what happens when they do put President Trump in prison.
We didn't even talk about the fact that they made this, again, this ruling that he's guilty before a civil trial, that there's no jury, that he has to dissolve his businesses in New York.
I mean, can you imagine, guys, just to get on the level with you, Trump Towers and the other five things he owns there, prime real estate?
The same thing that they're going to do in New Jersey, you can't fathom the economy that runs through those buildings alone.
Most, I'd say 100% of my audience more than likely cannot fathom running one of those buildings on an executive level.
Okay, forget about it.
And they just said no.
So there goes a ton of his money, and now more money he has to wage in law fair to try to get that avenue of revenue back.
And not only that, they took away any ability of his sons to run it or several of his emissaries.
Like, it's insane.
It's never been done.
It's totally unprecedented.
Before the trial, the trial kicks off tomorrow.
This is premium, so some people may be watching it today.
Dark cartoon predictions.
Go.
Well, convict Trump wins the presidential election from prison, even after being removed from the ballot in California, which kicks off an era of such unease and unsettlement that only Eric Schmidt's army of honeybee drones, at their surveillance capabilities,
are able to maintain a semblance of law and order.
Of course, we do have the Dalek looking NYPD bot, little subway bot.
No, the double RCA.
They can't.
They can't run Joe Biden.
That's not going to happen.
They're going to go swap sees for Gavin Newsome, I think.
I think.
I was getting at that.
Yeah.
I don't know if they want to swap him out, though.
I think they want to swap him out after a rigged election.
No, so you've he well, Biden's going down.
One way or another, the dude's a gangster who bragged about it, and enough people are fed up with it.
You can give Harris an asterisk presidency for a couple of months, and she probably, probably will be handled enough to not, you know, accidentally push a button.
But you've got to get Newsom in right before the convention.
So there can be no element of debate.
Maybe you even let, maybe you even let Kevin McCarthy, a speaker of their house, be asterisk president for a couple of months because Harris goes to.
Maybe, maybe, I don't know.
Wouldn't that be interesting?
But you make sure that Gavin Newsom is the guy who gets the nod because the Democrats have rules at their convention where you technically don't even have to have ran in the primary.
You can just be nominated.
And if enough states nominate you, then you're the person.
So that's how they get Newsom in.
They just have enough states nominate him.
Oh, no, he's our guy.
Oh, no, he's our guy.
I think that they're going to try to get Trump not off the national ballot.
I think they're working to get him off the primary ballot.
So that's the thing.
That's their big trick.
Just like they don't want, you said it.
They don't want debates.
That's the whole RFK Jr. thing.
So there can't be any debates.
Then they don't really want any primaries.
Okay.
And if there are primaries, then they want to make sure that Trump can't be on them.
So they're hoping maybe they can get some limited COVID restrictions if it starts getting cold out again.
And people start getting like the flu, right?
And they can get it in some states so they can just knock them off there.
There's eight states trying right now to do so.
We're in such a post-truth world that you're not even allowed to talk about quote-unquote election integrity or the 2020 election still, seriously.
Meanwhile, you know, you have Carrie Lake releasing video of, you know, them literally taking the SD cards out of the machines and putting them into a computer unattended, handing them to it.
And everybody's acting like there's no evidence for this stuff.
Well, they can't.
They can't.
Reality is going to rub up against it eventually.
And I think that there's, again, it comes back to that.
I think they would like to see, they would like to show you a civil war on TV.
They would like to show you the semblance of a civil war on TV to get you to be apathetically resigned to your technocratic prison.
There's also the possibility that because they have such a reaction ginned up over Trump being removed or not being able to run or having to run for prison or whatever it is, because all of this is nonsense to begin with, it could be that they find a reason to pull the plug on the election.
And this is something that I've noticed that a lot of people are starting to discuss now that we may not even make it to a 2024 election, which I do think if there was a time to consider it, it would probably be this one.
Even more seriously.
Here's the deal, man.
In order for that to happen, first of all, I think that there has to be some kind of a Russia event or Ukraine event or some kind of crazy nuclear thing where that's even in the cards.
But second, I think Trump has to be convicted and immediately put in prison.
Like, I mean, if people don't think they're not waiting for the trial for them to say guilty and then sentencing right there and then walk him off, I don't think you get it.
Like they're walking him right off.
Like, that's it.
They're walking him off on TV.
And then what?
I mean, we already went through some really weird things, obviously, in the past several years to the point where DC had never been militarized in the fashion it was.
You know, we've never been told to not believe our lion eyes more than this era of the post-truth world.
So, look, man, I think 12 to 14 months from now, the only other thing, Steve, that I could see that sets a precedent for something like that with no election would also be an economic collapse, the likes of which, again, you could talk about the Great Depression newsflash, everybody.
That's almost 100 years ago.
Very different now.
Very different.
So, what are your thoughts on those two kinds of cataclysms?
Do you think they even need that to not have an election?
Or am I blowing smoke up the harness?
Well, I don't, I mean, I don't want to scaremonger or any of that kind of stuff either.
I think that in all likelihood, we're probably going to see the Democrats try to push Gavin Newsome on people.
I haven't exactly worked out the mechanics on how they're going to do that.
I think in all likelihood, you're going to see Donald Trump try to run for president from jail.
Which, to be honest, I do a comedy show that's going to be great.
But we had a banker jump out of a window over the, you know, yesterday.
Saw that Friday.
Wells Fargo executive.
When that starts happening, it's not looking great for the economy.
We know that we've been on this artificially inflated, sort of imaginary cloud for a very long time, Jason.
I mean, even before the whole COVID stuff happened, you and I had a number of conversations about how there was, you know, what, $16.7, $16.9 trillion that just got passed out in the 08 financial collapse, which was totally prearranged in the first place.
And everything since then has just gone to further consolidate that wealth and that power into the hands of fewer and fewer people.
So we're at a point right now where even the artificial economy, the matchsticks and fantasy land nonsense that it's built on, is poised to get hit by a stiff breeze.
And they would like nothing more than to roll in that Fed now and the CBDC on the back end of it.
Hey, don't worry about your old debt.
It's all right.
We have something stable now.
You can tell because we put stable coin in the title of what it is.
You can completely believe in this imaginary string of ones and zeros because we put you in digital handcuffs on a blockchain and now you're tied to it for the rest of your life.
So you can definitely believe in it.
Yeah.
And maybe, just maybe, we're going to have you stare into a giant magic crystal ball like steampunk device where if like you were in an ancient culture, you might think it was taking your soul.
You might think it was taking your soul.
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I don't know.
That's just my thought on it.
Steve, a pleasure as always.
Tell the audience where they can find your stuff, brother.
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How are you streaming to goddamn Twitter?
I can't figure it out.
What are you doing through StreamYard?
StreamYard, yeah.
Yeah.
StreamYard is the only way that you can do it.
I don't want a StreamYard account just for Twitter because I'm already throttled there so badly.
But YouTube, I can't.
I mean, I'm losing subscribers every month.
It's over.
I just, I would, they won't let AM Wake Up on YouTube at all.
Yeah.
At all.
We tried to have a clip channel and we tried to upload an interview with Naomi Wolf.
It got, we got a strike on the pro on the upload.
Yeah.
Is it wild?
But yeah, AM WakeUpShow.com for everything.
I also do slow news days on Sundays with Gloria Jones.
And then I've been doing a kind of complete checkout from all of this show called Blunt Force Wisdom with my former neighbor in Vegas, Teal, and then my friend Sugar.
And we get high as a Christmas moon and we just talk about nonsense.
Yeah.
Well, we love nonsense here.
My friend, a pleasure as always.
And we'll have to do it again soon.
Like it should be weeks, not months.
I mean, what's it been?
Probably like three months is the last time, maybe.
It really has been.
It's been fun.
Well, and you know, we're going on the air like right when you're going off and you have a bunch of stuff to do immediately after.
And I have a bunch of stuff to do immediately before.
The afternoons are good and the weekends aren't bad.
So, Steve, as always, I love you and I love you guys.
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