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Gain Of Fauci And The CIA With Andrew G. Huff | MSOM Ep. 841

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CIA and EcoHealth AllianceOverlap 00:14:43
Welcome to Making Sense of the Madness.
We've got a very special show for you today.
We're going to be spending one full hour with Andrew G. Huff, the EcoHealth Alliance whistleblower.
We're going to be talking Fauci, COVID-1984, the Wuhan Lab, CIA, and more.
Buckle up and get ready to make sense of the madness.
Bats, pangolins, and wet markets.
Oh my, there was never any choice.
And the documentation that is coming out right now is proving that the powers that shouldn't be were hell-bent on selling the global populace that the COVID-19 virus was indeed zoonotic and could not have any type of an origin inside a lab or black project at all.
And really, these weren't black projects.
These were projects that were on the books, really taking the terminology of bioweapons and bio-warfare and using Bernesian terms like gain of function.
Recently, it has been reported by the New York Post and others that the Central Intelligence Agency got involved early with the experts and tried to sway them to say that the virus was indeed zoonotic.
Now, six of these people refused to do that.
And yet, the seventh, the one of the top that the CIA supposedly did not talk to, well, they said it couldn't be anything but from an animal.
And now we have reporting that Fauci met with the CIA directly to try to promote that great narrative.
To talk about that and much more is our guest, Andrew G. Huff.
He is the EcoHealth Alliance whistleblower.
Thank you so much for joining us, Andrew.
Since we have the hour, and some of my audience may not be familiar with your story, let's take us through this time period with EcoHealth Alliance, where you're having revelations of what is going on with this COVID-19 pandemic, Andrew.
Sure.
So I was hired as a senior scientist at Eco Health Alliance in 2014.
I was promoted to vice president about a year after working there, and I left the organization in 2016.
And actually, when I left the organization, I was on bad terms with Dr. Peter Dasick.
I thought the mission of the organization, I thought that the entire project or actually the scope of projects being conducted by half the company were basically a boondoggle and they weren't going to go anywhere.
And I really didn't think much of it when I left Eco Health Alliance.
But to put this in context of my personal experience and background, so I have degrees in psychology, security technologies, high-performance computing, modeling, and simulation with like 3D programs.
And my PhD is in emerging infectious disease epidemiology.
And I specialize in pandemics, biowarfare, bioterrorism.
I did a postdoc while working at Sandia National Laboratories at MIT.
And I was sort of the government's go-to guy for biowarfare modeling pandemic simulation while I worked at Sandia.
And prior to that, I worked at a Department of Homeland Security Center of Excellence where I was introduced to all the big players in biodefense and chemical defense.
And they used to call it NBC, nuclear, biological, and chemical back in those days.
So the point is, I was really groomed to be one of these people, to be a leader in the field within the government, to be a bureaucrat in the space.
And I was trying to get away from all of that doom and gloom.
I no longer wanted to have a top secret clearance.
And that's when I went on to work at Equal Health Alliance.
Now, fast forward to 2019, I caught wind of the infectious disease spread in mid to late December 2019.
And I started calling all my friends and my peers asking, you know, is this the next big one?
What's going on here?
And when the fact came out that this was a coronavirus spreading in the city of Wuhan, and I was well aware of the gain of function research that Eco Health Alliance had been doing at the Wuhan Institute of Virology because I reviewed the proposals while I worked at Eco Health Alliance.
We openly discussed these projects while I worked at Eco Health Alliance.
It was obvious to me that this was most likely a laboratory leak.
And I really went through a period of uncertainty of who to trust in 2020 because everything the U.S. government was doing was not according to the pandemic preparedness plan or national pandemic preparedness plan.
There are several of those actually across different government agencies, but they're more or less the same.
And I contributed to a few of those over the years.
So I was really confused to what's going on.
The narratives, the facts, you know, telling people to wear masks, not to wear masks, not to worry about the spread of this disease.
And that's just not what you're supposed to do if you're in a leadership position in the government when you have a disease like this spreading.
You know, humans are sort of like prairie dogs in a sense.
And when one prairie dog pops up out of the hole and sees a threat or a problem, they sound the alarm and everyone dives down the hole.
And that protects the population or the herd of prairie dogs.
Well, when it comes to infectious disease spread, whether it's a bioterror weapon or a pandemic, we typically behave the same way.
The idea is to sound the alarm so that everyone can get prepared, respond, and do what we can.
And from there on out, the guidance just from the U.S. government and response became more ridiculous over time.
And by the time 2021 comes together, I recalled some interesting things.
Dr. Peter Dasick told me that he was working with the CIA while I worked at EcoHealth Alliance.
And then I started to reflect back about everything I know about the intelligence community because I'd worked with these people over the years, my time at Eco Health Alliance.
And a number of the programs that Eco Health Alliance was engaged in specifically tied or matched with many of the intelligence collection priorities for the U.S. government.
Everything I'm telling you is vague enough.
It's not classified.
I'm not giving away any classified information here.
And this was all out in the open, so to speak.
These were public documents.
Some at the most might have been had like an official use-only stamp, which really doesn't mean much.
But in public circles, you could go find these documents discussing the intelligence collection priorities of the U.S. government.
If you go look at the funding requests or proposal requests from the Department of Defense and other intelligence agencies, going all the way back to 2008, 2009, 2010, these organizations were actively seeking to collect intelligence on foreign laboratories.
And they were also trying to improve or enhance biosecurity and biosafety in these laboratories so that there wouldn't be an accident.
So the idea was something like this.
We could fund foreign laboratories through different government agencies, whether that be through the Department of Defense, the Department of Energy, the Department of State, USAID, to build capacity in these foreign laboratories and then to build relationships with U.S. government scientists and other policymakers so that we had good relationships with these laboratories.
So they are allies or friends with the United States.
And then we could sort of watch and see what they're up to.
This was no secret.
Was actually legislation passed or introduced during the Obama administration to make all this happen.
Actually, it's called the Nunn-Luger Act.
So, much of this I discussed in my book, The Truth About Wuhan.
So, all of this was out in the open, but just unless you're an expert in this field, you're not really aware of it.
And then, if you fast forward to the point where you get to 2021, 2020, 22, and 2023, when I come out with these, you know, the allegation and I have the documents to prove that EcoFalliance was connected to the intelligence community.
That's when all heck breaks out loose in my personal life.
The U.S. government comes after me.
They try to destroy my life and they fail at that.
And a number of other interested parties sort of come after me at the same time or simultaneously.
And all this, you know, is water over the dam for me at this point.
But it's been vindicating at least because more and more whistleblowers keep coming forward, which are substantiating my claims.
Well, let me also say this: the mainstream media did you absolutely no favors by trying to demonize you and not reporting on the facts.
I mean, again, you had the documents.
That's not hyperbola.
Let's talk about the overlap between the Central Intelligence Agency and EcoHealth Alliance, especially in light of these couple of news stories that have come out that the Central Intelligence Agency was vested in trying to get the public to believe that this was a zoonotic or natural virus.
And Anthony Fauci seems to be involved with the same thing when you can look at their internal emails.
And the vast majority of these people said, no, this is not zoonotic.
It was created in a laboratory.
And that's within the context: if those were the FOIAs or the emails that were uncovered, simultaneously, there was this duplicatous nature where they're also talking on burner cell phones to hide their communications about what they coordinating what they were going to say publicly.
And if you actually look at the timeline events of what the U.S. government has at least officially come out with the official timeline where this disease started spreading, you know, and it's China's fault.
If the first, the timeline was something like the middle of December, this disease started spreading.
And then through a series of hearings in the U.S. Senate, then they pushed that date back.
Well, now we think it started spreading at the World Military Games at Wuhan.
Well, let me point out a couple of facts here about the World Military Games in Wuhan.
So, one, the city was already on lockdown.
That was reported by athletes, intelligence officials.
There's pictures of it.
This is no surprise.
And that was in mid-October of 2019.
The other thing is that a number of those athletes go back to their home countries and report respiratory illnesses, not otherwise specified.
And that's typically what a novel infectious disease is reported as in health records or in epidemiology.
But here's the thing: you would not have that level of lockdown present in the city the size of Wuhan, which is like New York City or bigger, unless this disease had been spreading before that.
So it's not that the Chinese went into lockdown at that point.
The disease was already spreading at that point.
I think everyone is pretty well aware of that.
In the book I discuss, I was contacted by a woman by the name of Dr. Amy Jenkins from DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, who had worked with the State Department and a number of other three-letter agencies, which I was introduced to as a PhD student.
And she was desperately trying to recruit me to be the programs officer, a biologics director for this directive within DARPA.
And how odd that phone call was.
So, for one, they called me on, she reached me on a brand new cell phone number, San Francisco area code, which nobody in my national security background had that number.
Okay.
So, how did she get my number?
Two, why was she recruiting me of all people?
Because I made it very clear to everyone in my professional network that I no longer wanted to work in national security in these areas.
I just wanted to go back to doing academic type research or population health or corporate public health research.
And that's really where my interest lied.
So, I declined the position, and she really pressed me hard to accept that.
So, I believe that phone call was the Department of Defense trying to bring me back under the wing of DOD so they could read me into the program and then read me in, meaning give me a top secret clearance, tell me what was going on.
And then I wouldn't be able to write the book and do the things that I've done now.
The other thing here is: so they've really pushed this October emergency date.
There's a scientific fact here, which is inconvenient.
But if you look at the caseload or case numbers of COVID spreading around the planet in 2020, so maybe we start to get reliable estimates by the summer of 2020.
And there's a range, you know, because there's false positives, false negatives on these tests.
But when the sample is so large, you can say, like, hey, there's some the truth is somewhere here in the middle.
And then you reverse model it back using the transmission rate and use it, and you can use this process of division or square rooting to find the likely emergence time period or time point.
And that points to late August or early September of 2019.
And that's a hard fact.
I mean, that's math.
It doesn't lie.
And that is.
Well, let me just stop you there.
Aside from math, okay?
What people forget is that at that time, we were in this country.
We were already going through a massively tough flu season.
It was one of the worst flu seasons out there.
I lived in New York at the time, not New York City, but upstate.
And I would see kids who would go down for vacation on college.
And I remember them coming back from Thanksgiving break.
And so many had this sickness.
I myself got sicker than I ever had in November.
My entire family got sicker than they had ever had been.
And then I had some really odd long-term effects that were respiratory in nature.
I just turned 40.
I thought, oh, well, this isn't, you know, a big thing.
I'm getting older.
Things are rougher.
And at the same time, I lost my taste and smell for three days before that was even talked about.
So it's been my opinion that this thing was very active, like you just said, somewhere in the September, October range.
And then you have the event 201 simulation taking place in New York City in October of that year, which ends up being literally a blueprint for the way that things were handled both militarily and through the media, Andrew.
Oh, absolutely.
And I'm glad you brought those points up.
That's exactly where I was heading.
Congressional Testimonies on Safety 00:04:41
So in late August, early September, there's a critical failure of an HVAC component at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which is well known as the bioweapons laboratory of the Chinese.
We can come back to that subject in a bit.
I think it's relevant.
And so think about this: this disease starts spreading.
These types of laboratories, and especially the WIV, is very closely watched by the Department of Defense, the Defense Intelligence Agency, and the Central Intelligence Agency and the State Department because they're concerned about what they're doing there.
And rightfully so, right?
They should be concerned about what's happening at that laboratory.
There's nothing wrong with that.
I mean, that's the government looking out for the safety of the military and also looking out for the safety of us.
Now, so they have this HVAC leak.
There's a reported index case.
This student, a master's student, she went missing.
And that's when we believe the disease started spreading.
This has been testified to by a number of people in Congress at this point, both in the Senate and the House.
This is not really hearsay.
These are facts.
So, we have the mathematical modeling backwards to what the original or the origin date is.
And we have the intelligence around what happens in that laboratory.
So, there's an HVAC leak, the disease starts spreading.
The Chinese start mass buying PPE.
They started buying up PPE, personal protective equipment from all around the planet.
And there is U.S. customs data and DHS trade data and world economic data to prove that.
The production and ordering of PCR tests already go into bulk orders.
I think it was like in October or November of 2019.
And Event 201, if you look at the key player there, that's Avril Haynes, who used to be a member of the CIA.
I believe she was representing the CIA at that meeting.
And she's now the ODNI.
Sheads up the, she's the office of the, she's the director of national intelligence at the office of the director of national intelligence.
So here she is in this intelligence capacity.
And the funny thing is, Admiral, you know, there was a law, unanimous bill passed by the Senate and Dolton signed into law by Biden saying that she had to declassify and release all the COVID origin data.
She still has not done that to this date.
And there's been no pushback from Congress, and we can get into that because I don't think anybody really wants to know or wants to deal with it.
Well, Andrew, let's just stop here for a second because we are going to have to go to break in a moment.
But not only do they not want to do it, instead, they had this faux COVID-19 panel that put out their own report and it was headed up by Philip Zelikow of all people, the guy that oversaw the 9-11 Commission cover-up.
And then they did a full panel with like the Washington Post, et cetera.
And it plays into all the mainstream media aspects of it and doesn't even want to touch on the possibility that this thing was not zoonotic and instead wants to give the state and really world government more authoritarian power.
These are the tools that they continue to promote.
Like I said, we got to go to break.
When we come back, we're going to have more with Dr. Andrew G. Huff.
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And Andrew, you were just talking about Avril Haynes, the Central Intelligence Agency, and this Event 201.
Pfizer's Role in Tabletop Exercises 00:15:56
Really, I guess it's a forum.
But not only did you have the central intelligence agency there, you had representatives of the Gates Foundation, you had the World Health Organization, and stunningly, this was based around a coronavirus, a zoonotic coronavirus, not a bat from China, but instead a pig from South America.
Otherwise, it goes straight down the line into the playbook that we saw during the pandemic.
Absolutely.
And I believe Event 201 was the, it's a tabletop exercise.
That's the official name or the way that you describe these things.
The tabletop exercise was used to condition everyone, all the different nations, all the stakeholders, if you wanted to go by globalist terms, how to respond to this situation.
And I had actually participated in and helped construct a number of smaller tabletop exercises for the U.S. government, both international and domestic, over the years, and participated in quite a few.
And the thinking behind this is if you can get all the different stakeholders in the same room talking to each other, you can identify problems or critical gaps or weaknesses and then build the relationships between the government and the private sector so that you can have a strong response to these types of events.
And I don't think there's anything wrong with that per se.
What's so nefarious about this one is that it's directly used to basically align all these, the response before the disease spread is communicated to the public.
And that's really the big problem here in my mind.
So in medicine and public health, we say do no harm.
Well, think about how many people were harmed from the time that that disease started spreading in late August or early September until they announced the disease spreading in late December 2019.
And then the U.S. government went so far as to, if you look at Anthony Fauci specifically, denying that this was even a real problem until February or March of 2020, where this had all been become politicized.
So it violated the do no harm principle.
And then on top of it, this information sharing between the government and corporate America was used to consolidate wealth and to fleece everyday people, average people all around the globe.
And I really have a problem with that.
That's not the way that these tabletop exercises were ever conceived by myself and most of the other people that I used to work with.
To do so would be highly unethical.
And I can't believe it.
I'm rather shocked that this happened.
And, you know, it is what it is now, but it shouldn't have happened and they should have warned people immediately.
Well, once again, it seemed like from the get-go, there was one solution and one solution only.
And that was quote unquote vaccines that weren't vaccines that had to be redefined as vaccines, really gene therapy, mRNA shots to the tune of two, three, four, and five.
And you have this partnership with DARPA, who you mentioned earlier, and Moderna all the way back in 2013 via the Adept Protect program, where they get an initial infusion of $25 million.
Now, if people read this press release, they are very clear that these are not vaccines and in fact, something very different, and they are gene therapy.
Now, they move on from that into a strategic collaboration with other entities such as the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, BARDA, the Medical DARPA, AstraZeneca, who will also get behind these shots and others.
My question to you is, once something like this becomes militarized, do they no longer have to tell us the truth just simply because of the nature?
Once something gets a top secret clearance, well, it can't really be discussed in the general public, as you alluded to earlier, Andrew.
I don't know if this is so much an issue of secrecy or being top secret.
The Department of Defense actually invests billions of dollars annually into tech startup companies to develop new technology.
I don't really find it so strange that they invested this funding into Moderna specifically to identify the MRN or to develop and further research the mRNA technology.
There was a practical problem that we ran into in public health, which started being discussed in 2006, 2007, 2008.
I started coming into those conversations 2008, 2009, and 2010.
And so with traditional vaccine technology at that time, there's a real problem.
So this is the way it works.
There's a disease spreading around, a new disease.
Okay.
We don't know whether it's a pandemic or a bioterror agent.
We have to figure that out.
Simultaneously, though, we also have to respond to the event that's occurring or taking place, this disease spread, the burden on the hospitals.
And by the time they isolate the virus or the pathogen that's causing the pandemic, then they have to figure out how to formulate a vaccine and then make that vaccine and scale it in chicken embryos.
That's the process.
And that takes usually eight to nine months, best case.
And then at the end of eight or nine months, then you have to run through clinical trials on that.
And that can take years.
So it put the policymakers and the bureaucrats in a really tough position.
So take the legislative branch out of this, take the courts out of this.
This is really on the deep state, the administrative state, to solve the problem at this point.
And they looked at the tools available.
And the tools available to solve this problem is, well, one, they can use War Powers Act through the Department of Defense for a national emergency to build a product quickly.
And that's identified as the policy mechanism to do this legally, okay?
Because the government, these bureaucrats, they tend to always follow the rules, except for Dr. Anthony Fauci.
And so that's identified as the, give you the policy mechanism.
The other practical need here problem that happens is that there's a series of conversations that happen over and over and over again with the pharmaceutical industry during these tabletop exercises at U.S. government meetings, where when we walk through this scenario of this disease spreading, we say, okay, we're the government, you know, BARDA, you know, I'm pretending I'm wearing the BARDA hat.
I'm running BARDA or I'm running the Department of Homeland Security or I'm running the Department of Defense.
How do we, you know, we'd like you, Pfizer, to make, you know, 10, you know, 100 million doses of this new experimental vaccine.
Will you do it?
And the answer that they gave us was no.
And this is a learning exercise.
We're trying to work through the problem with them ahead of the time so we could make sure that this works when we experience the pandemic.
And it's a fair question.
The person at the table then asks Pfizer, well, okay, what's the problem here?
They're like, well, we need immunity.
And because the biggest cost or biggest liability for pharmaceutical companies is new drug manufacturing liability.
They lose a ton of money on new experimental drugs and it can put them out of business.
They're really concerned about it.
And rightfully so.
If they can be sued for a dangerous product, they will go out of business and it's their job to make money.
So the policymakers then come up with the idea, we'll just grant immunity to the pharmaceutical companies to make medical countermeasures, vaccines, drugs to respond to emergency threats, whether they're pandemics from novel pathogens or from bioterrorist attacks.
This is all above board.
I mean, I thought it was a good idea at the time, okay?
I think differently now, but that's hindsight.
So immunity ends up being granted.
Now you put this gameplay that's actually game plan that had been discussed for years, goes into play.
And the technology, taking one step back here, going back to those vaccine, those egg-based vaccines, they take eight or nine months.
The other idea floated was, okay, DARPA, DOD, NIH, let's get some scientists to develop a new technology.
And this is where Dr. Robert Malone comes into play.
So we can have a vaccine that we can edit or we can isolate the virus and edit and create a vaccine within two to three weeks.
And that's the mRNA platform.
And the mRNA platform had been tested with HIV and cancer patients.
There's a number of different formulations and applications where it had been tested over the years, and it just simply wasn't effective.
And many of us knew that.
And by the time 2020 comes around, 2021, and I talked to a few of my friends who I think are more knowledgeable on the subject, they're like, yeah, they got all the kinks worked out.
Well, I hadn't done my research yet.
So there's definitely a problem with using what's called other transaction authority through the Department of Defense using War Powers Act to put this vaccine into production, manufacturing.
And then basically, you know, what's come out through the court cases through Brooke Jackson and Warner Mendenhall, who's our attorney, they sued Pfizer on this on this issue, is that the first court has ruled that the U.S. government got the fraud that it ordered.
Okay.
And as strange that that is.
So taking a step back, Brooke Jackson reported a series of fraud going on in these Pfizer clinical trials where they're manipulating records and they were using selection methods, which would skew the statistics at the end of the studies.
And what's really interesting here is because this is through this process was through other transaction authority using the War Powers Act, it was perfectly legal for the government and Pfizer to do this together.
Well, that's a policy problem, I guess, we're going to have to address going forward.
Then the fact that you had Dr. Anthony Fauci simultaneously leaning on the scientists that were conducting studies for NIH on drugs like hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, you know, to say that those drugs didn't work.
And then you had the FDA coming out and making statements about ivermectin, which is now deemed to have been illegal or improper.
You know, this is all coming together, but you had a lot of people manipulating the system for gain of profit once they got to that phase because there's huge money here.
So the whole idea behind mRNA is it was thought like, hey, this is going to be the game changing drug, which is going to solve our policy problem of not having a vaccine that we can deliver to the public.
Because think back and when we're in 2020, like late 2020, early 21, everyone had a vaccine.
Everybody wanted something to make this problem go away.
And the bureaucrats, you could take, you know, Anthony Fauci, take the corrupt people out of the mix, wanted to do something to help people.
And there's nothing wrong with that.
And if you look at the pharmaceutical companies here, they have fulfilled their patriotic duty as asked upon them by the Department of Defense and the government.
Now, was it ethical?
No.
Would I do the same thing that Pfizer did and some of the people that worked at their subcontracting facilities did?
No.
But they stood up to the plate and they delivered a product because the U.S. government and the American people were asking for it through our elected official.
Like it or not, that's what happened.
This is why we need to have policy changes in the future to address these problems issues.
I believe it can be corrected.
Hindsight is always 2020, but everyone was acting, at least at one point, or I shouldn't say everyone, most people were acting in good faith.
Unfortunately, there are a few bad apples that are not acting in good faith, which really mucked up the process.
Well, Greg, you talked about basically this partnership with DARPA and Moderna and how they were putting out drugs and doing these testings, but to no avail.
But in 2016, they actually patent an mRNA cancer drug.
There are reports that this cancer drug, I believe, has a 12-sequence DNA nucleotide identical to the virus itself.
This would suggest that, again, the virus was not natural.
What are your thoughts on that report?
Do you think that that's valid?
Oh, it's absolutely valid.
And there's four other patents that I came across, which I thought directly tied into the manufacturing of SARS-CoV-2 directly.
So when I worked at EcoAthalliance, there was a data transfer and sharing agreement, and there was actually several of these between different partners involved with our sample collection happening through the USAID PREDIC program.
So that's jokingly called CIA Light.
But USAID was actually funding the sample collection internationally to engineer SARS-CoV-2 while I worked at EcoAath Alliance before I worked at EcoAth Alliance.
And the gain of function work at the Wuhan Institute of Ivorology actually began under this USAID program and not under Dr. Anthony Fauci.
And I think this is what ties into the recent revelations.
I think I read a Zero Hedge article this past week that said, well, Dr. Anthony Fauci is just the Patsy here.
And that's exactly what I've been saying now for over a year and a half.
Dr. Anthony Fauci did not have the pull or the clout to steer all these different government agencies and their intel assessments to a zoonotic origin from a wet market, which wasn't really a wet market by definition, by himself.
He was a sub-agency director at NIH.
And who did?
Well, it would have to be someone from the intelligence community or Department of Defense, but more likely the intelligence community.
If you go and look at who the person who's been in every had her foot in every pie, so to speak, well, Avril Haynes was at Event 201.
Avril Haynes has been at the ODNI for quite a while now.
She's been in the government working this issue, running the cover-up for quite a while.
And the real travesty here is I can't understand why the cover-up continues.
I think the American people are all pretty sure of what's happened at this point.
They probably didn't believe these deep, dark secrets about the CIA being involved.
But going back to these patents at Moderna and to your point that you brought up earlier, there's a U.S. policy that was passed or changed.
And this debate really took off in 2010.
And this is around the concept of what's called dual-use research of concern or gain of function.
And gain of function simply means anytime that you enhance the pathogenicity, the virulence, the environmental persistence, the lethality, anytime that you're really making these pathogens more harmful.
And the U.S. government uses something else called a select agent list.
And there's a select agent list from the USDA because some of these are animal and plant pathogens.
And there's also one from HHS CDC.
And these are some of the nastiest or most horrific bugs on the planet, according to experts.
SARS coronavirus was on that list.
So after a series of mishaps and accidents in 2013-ish, going into 2014 by the U.S. government and other laboratories that they're partnered with, the Obama administration puts a moratorium or a freeze or a hold on all this gain of function research.
My employer, my boss, Dr. Anthony Fauci, is allowed to continue doing his gain of function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, escaping direct policy or I guess standard protocol or oversight from NIH, which shouldn't have been allowed.
Also, this research shouldn't have been allowed because it's on the fringes of something called export control, which is the State Department, Department of Defense, and CIA watching the advanced transfer of biotechnology overseas to our enemies.
But that aside, there's a number of reasons why this research should have been stopped.
But then my boss is allowed to continue on doing this gain of function work with the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
Regulatory Loopholes in Biotech Research 00:06:27
And the reason why they're doing it is that, so this gain of function definition then falls into this other policy called dual use research of concern.
And dual use research concern means, well, because of the 1972 bioweapons convention or treaty, we're not allowed to go doing gain of function work just to weaponize things.
And at least for the countries that signed it.
But there's a loophole in that regulation because you are allowed to make medical countermeasures.
And what that means is you can make vaccines, you can make drugs to counter the nasty biological things that your enemies might be doing.
Okay, but it's a catch-22 because you cannot predict how nature will evolve, first of all.
And to think that you're going to predict how some natural pathogen is going to occur is ludicrous.
It's never successfully happened in history.
In fact, gain of function has caused more laboratory leaks and disease spread than diseases it's cured or prevented by millions or billions of cases now.
The other aspect, we've got to take a break when we come back.
I want to elaborate more on that.
People need to realize that the Nazi experimentations were due to their vaccine programs where they wanted to release biological weapons on their enemies, but at the same time protect their populace.
So this is not new.
This is something that's been utilized for decades.
We've got to take a break.
We'll be back after this with Dr. Andrew G. Huff.
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And before the break, Andrew, you were talking about how there has really never been a successful program through gain of function to come up with a solution to any type of, I guess you would call it, a virus that doesn't exist.
You know, I mean, that's the craziest part about this is we're creating these viruses or enhancing these viruses so that we can have medications for them later.
In the case of the COVID-19 4 virus, when they sequenced it, you have people like Ray Kurzweil saying it was only two to three days before they were able to make that sequence and then insert it to what would be printed up via Cure Vac and Tesla, which was largely mRNA shots, but some vector-based, the vast majority, mRNA.
How do they get away with that?
You know, how do they get away with just a digital sequence of these viruses when we know, like you said, that you don't know what it's going to do once it goes out into the wild and mutates?
Well, they get away with it very simply.
So the internationally accepted policy is something called dual use research of concern.
So you can engage in this gain of function research as long as you're doing it to make medical countermeasures or drugs.
So you're making the thing to prevent the nasty thing that could evolve out there.
The problem is humans cannot predict how diseases will evolve or how nature will evolve.
It's never successfully been done.
And we certainly aren't anywhere closer to doing that at this time.
So you have to ask the question, well, what really, what are we doing here?
And what we're doing is we're spending a lot of money on bioweapons development and medical countermeasure development, even though this falls under the peaceful use category.
And so this is bio weapons research happening out in the open.
And that's fine.
It's legal, but we should change that policy and prevent that from happening because you can see what the consequences are.
And then on top of it, we spent billions of dollars developing medical countermeasures and drugs, which just haven't been effective or not safe.
And actually they have a risk reward or risk benefit calculation, which is non-existent.
So there's really not much benefit to taking these jabs for most people or any people.
And there's a lot of potential risk of side effects from taking these products.
So we've created a market through the government for mRNA.
It's here to stay because of a lot of clever regulatory maneuvering.
I don't see it going away anytime soon.
I try to remain positive and hopeful that they'll get mRNA technology right and it will become something that is helpful or effective with low side effects in the future.
That's not going to happen, though, until they have informed consent and they do proper testing on these products.
And it's hard to say where the regulatory future or framework will and how that will evolve, how the regulatory framework will evolve in the future.
I hope that there is some common sense regulation around this, at least to develop and a safe product that's effective.
Wi-Fi Surveillance Secrets 00:04:40
So in the beginning of the program, you discussed how the powers that shouldn't be really came after you and tried to destroy your life.
I've seen previous interviews where you've talked about surveillance techniques that the public may not be aware of.
I'm not sure if we have the clip, but I do have a clip of basically these technology folks showing how Wi-Fi can be utilized to spy on people internally and map them out.
If we have that clip, let's play that, Greg.
But of course, it goes further.
So in this one, they said, can they understand the inner monologue, the things you're saying to yourself in your own mind?
Mind you, by the way, when you dream, your dream, like your visual cortex runs in reverse.
So your dreams are no longer safe.
But we'll try this.
So they had people watch a video and just narrate what was going on in the video in their mind.
So there's a woman, she gets hit in the back, she falls over.
This is what the computer reconstructed the person thinking.
See a girl, looks just like me, get hit in the back, and then she is knocked off.
So our thoughts are starting to be decoded.
Yeah.
Just think about what this means for authoritarian states, for instance.
Or if you want to generate images that maximally activate your pleasure sensor, anything else.
Okay, but let's keep going, right?
To really get the sense of the comnetorics of this.
How about can we go from Wi-Fi radio signals, you know, sort of like the Wi-Fi routers in your house?
They're bouncing off radio signals that work sort of like sonar.
Can you go from that to where human beings are to images?
So what they did is they had, you know, a camera looking at a space with people in it.
That's sort of like coming in from one eye.
The other eye is the radio signals, so sonar from the Wi-Fi router.
And they just learned to predict like, this is where the human beings are.
Then they took away the camera.
So all the AI had was the language of radio signals bouncing around a room.
And this is what they're able to reconstruct.
Real-time 3D pose estimation, right?
So suddenly AI has turned every Wi-Fi router into a camera that can work in the dark, specially tuned for tracking living beings.
Can you talk to that now that that's out in the public arena, that things like Wi-Fi signals can be utilized to spy on people?
Well, there's a number of different ways that these types of technologies can be used.
And Edward Snowden actually either leaked or discussed some of these technologies way back.
I mean, in 2010, I think, or 2009, when all that information from Wikileaks came out.
The first thing is everything in your device, in your house, is an IoT device.
It has Bluetooth.
Apple devices are quite terrible in sense because they have airplay and all these connectivity devices to make everything work seamlessly together.
And that can turn everything in your home into a spy device if it has the capability.
There's other technologies or processes where, so using energy technology or wave-based energy, so that could be Bluetooth or Wi-Fi.
They can then use these, especially if you're carrying an IoT device like a phone, they can use that then to track your position and location inside the building that you're in.
The other aspect of this, and you've probably seen this with Ford, I think they call it 3D Google Maps.
I mean, I used to have that in New York City years ago.
And then if you have all the different measurements taking that are being taken off your iPhone and you look at all the different hardware parameters on there, gyroscope, all these things, accelerometers, men's technology, they can use that to measure your health, your heart rate, all these kinds of different things.
And then the technology is so advanced now is that then you can use that wave technology then to track the objects themselves by looking at the attenuation of the signal or the bounce off different types of materials.
So a simple explanation of this is that if you have a device in a concrete room emitting a signal or a beacon, the signal will bounce off the surfaces.
And as it bounces off each one of those surfaces, the wavelength changes shape a little bit.
And if that Wi-Fi router that you're using, for example, hasn't powerful enough processor on it and computing, someone could load malware onto that device then to take these different types of measurements.
Now, how accurate this technology is today, I have no clue.
I've been out of following it for some time, but there is actually a subspecialty within engineering and signals processing that deals with these types of problems.
And it's advancing quickly.
Government Accountability 00:06:38
We got to take another break.
When we come back, I want to talk about how people can support you and where you think this is going.
Will there be a Nuremberg 2?
I'm not so sure.
And I'm not so sure that's what we want.
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Andrew, do you think that there will be any justice?
There's a lot of people out there talking about Nuremberg II.
And, you know, I'm in support of these people being held accountable in some kind of trials.
But even when you look at the original Nuremberg, it was really selective enforcement.
We obviously had Operation Paperclip, where many Nazis were actually integrated into our systems of intelligence, aeronautics, and beyond, even biological warfare, as we were doing those sorts of things.
So what are your thoughts on Nuremberg 2 in a few minutes?
I don't think Nuremberg 2 is going to occur.
I think that some individuals within the U.S. government and potentially in Europe could be held accountable.
The question is, this was an international research project to begin with, this gain of function work between the U.S. and China.
And who then do you pin the blame on within the Chinese government and the U.S. government?
So the U.S. government's responsible for transferring the biotechnology over to China.
If a lab leak is actually what occurred and it wasn't some kind of attack or intentional release, that's a completely different story, but we won't know unless there's an investigation into that realm.
But right now, it looks like the evidence strongly suggests a leak.
Then the Chinese are responsible for the leak at this laboratory.
And so who do you hold accountable?
I mean, all these different officials within the Chinese government, I don't think that's going to happen.
And actually, they're pretty good at holding their own people accountable.
In the United States government, are we going to hold everyone accountable over here?
But no, there's some people that should have spoken up and said no to this.
Dr. Anthony Fauci should have said no, even though the intelligence community, Department of Defense, were probably asking him to work on this project.
So a little bit of a history here is that a lot of this chemical defense, biological defense research used to be done underneath the Department of Defense.
And then through a series of bills and acts, that research was then transferred over to the National Institutes of Health under the National Institutes for Allergens and Infectious Diseases under Dr. Anthony Fauci.
It was just a policy change.
And he took on all this research, this research portfolio, but he could have said no to it or said, this is not a good idea.
Maybe we shouldn't do this in front of NIH.
But they're trying to do this all out in the open, which they did.
My former boss, Dr. Peter Dasick, I warned him of some of the risks of working with the Chinese on this specific work.
I actually brought up at a meeting, like, aren't you slightly concerned that the Chinese are going to steal our technology or do something nefarious with this?
And, you know, look how that aged.
So there are certain people that are only acting in their own self-interest which should be held accountable.
You know, beyond that, I don't really know who else that you, who you hold accountable here.
The one thing that we can do going forward is we change the policy around this to make it so that this kind of thing doesn't play out, a pandemic doesn't play out the way that it did.
We should have followed the national pandemic preparedness plan.
We should have been open and transparent in the communication of when this disease started spreading.
And I've always been an advocate for that.
So I actually used to develop these platforms for the Department of Defense, for the intelligence community, trying to figure out or detect infectious disease outbreak signals.
And I was quite good at it.
And they use my technology that I developed.
And when you have a warning or signal like that, and then it's confirmed with intelligence, that information should be communicated back to the global community.
Because as you can see, these diseases don't care about boundaries.
You can't shut down the borders.
You can't lock places down.
But what you can do is you can inform and warn people.
And then the individual can have the freedom or the right to decide what healthcare practices or preventative measures that they want to engage in.
If any, it should be on the individual and they should have the right to decide.
They should have informed consent.
And that's really the problem here: this became a federal push, a federal takeaway of individual civil liberties.
And I'd like to see in the future that individuals are well informed by the government.
They have the best information from the government.
That's what the government used to do: provide people with great information so they can make well-informed choices on their own.
And that's the best path going forward.
We're never going to be able to, you know, force and mandate vaccines on all these people.
I think a lot of this is going to get challenged and overthrown by higher courts, and especially if it makes you the Supreme Court.
You know, the government employees have been, I think, the mandates have been upheld within the government, especially for some occupations where there's occupational risk.
But that's probably, you know, that's problematic because the definition of what a vaccine is has changed, and that should be challenged too.
But really, the best thing we can do is warn people when we have a signal of intelligence or when the disease outbreak has then been later confirmed.
We need to warn people.
That's the number one thing: duty to warn.
In public health message, duty to warn and do no harm.
And if you do those two things and we stick to that, we're on the right path to success.
Well, I think the big problem also is that they demonized and sometimes criminalized actual treatments that did work with the COVID-19 4 virus, from simple things like vitamin D and vitamin C drips to things like ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, eudestinide, and beyond.
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And I could spend easily another couple hours with this gentleman, just a wealth of knowledge.
Andrew, in these last few minutes, really lay it down how you've been demonized.
They've come after you.
You've written this book, why it's important, and how people can support you.
Sure.
So they came after me because I was the only person on the inside of this entire system of this bio-industrial medical complex that came forward and told the truth about what was going on.
So they had to come after me in terms of what I represent, the threat I represent to the basically the globalist agenda to the restriction of freedoms.
So they had to do it.
And, you know, they did all sorts of craziness.
They had, you know, drones flying around my house at one point.
They broke into my house repeatedly.
They were tampering with my devices, hacked all my devices.
This was actually perpetrated by the Marquette County Sheriff's Department, Sheriff Greg Zeibert, the FBI, Agent Jody Stanley, and Agent John Fortunato.
I'll call you out there for your wonderful, you know, terrible things that you did as FBI agents.
And later we found out the Defense Intelligence Agency was the one running the operation.
They actually did this through a series of contractors, and those contractors might actually do good by me.
So I'm not going to name them yet.
But the way that you support me, best way, go to my website, andrewhuff.com, buy a signed copy of my book.
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For the average person out there, what should they be doing to ensure that something like this never happens again?
Or if it does happen again, it doesn't play out in the manner that we had.
Stay Politically Active 00:02:33
Well, one of the biggest mistakes that I made as a citizen was not being politically active.
I used to be very politically active, and I quit in, I guess, 20, you know, 2012 when I became disillusioned with the system.
And then I just became sort of quote unquote, a government contractor, grifter type, just sucking in all the tax dollars to work on different contracts for my Department of Defense projects.
You know, I admit it.
And I just became disillusioned with the system.
And the problem is, you know, I should have stayed active.
And for people listening, you need to stay active.
You need to get involved.
You need to get off your phones.
You need to get off your computers.
This is very important.
And you need to go meet people in the real world, okay?
Especially conservatives, libertarian-minded people.
It's a real world out there, especially living in a rural area, rural community.
Go have a sense of community.
I don't care whether that's a church, the pool hall, the bar, wherever you find that, you need to get off your phones, get off your devices, get out of your house, and go physically be present, speak up, ask questions, and find out what's going on.
Because this war is being waged against us in such a way to isolate us and to keep us apart.
And as long as that continues, they're going to win.
The globalists will win.
They have far superior resources.
And I want to tell everyone that, you know, Donald Trump is going to be the president of the United States.
He'd certainly have my vote.
Then it would be RFK Jr., but I actually think that there's a good chance that Donald Trump might be eliminated from the ballot process or RFK Jr. might be eliminated from the ballot process.
And that's because the globalists are going against both these guys real hard.
And it doesn't matter if you're on the left or right in the spectrum watching the show, the same basic principle applies.
You need to get off your devices.
You need to get out in the world.
You need to go network with people and you need to become active on the issues that you're passionate about.
Otherwise, we're no longer going to have freedoms and they're going to steamroll us.
Absolutely.
And I also share your concern that Trump may not be on the ballot.
It doesn't seem like they're going to allow RFK Jr. any type of fair primary process.
And these people are really being crushed by a system that is becoming more and more authoritarian by the day, week, month, and really hour.
Andrew G. Hoff, absolutely a pleasure to spend an hour with you, my friend.
I hope we can do it again sometime soon.
And I want to thank all you guys out there for joining us.
I need you to spread this interview out there.
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