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Oct. 9, 2023 - Info Warrior - Jason Bermas
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Taking Away Trump's Everything With Mark Schaftlein, Steve Frank, And Zak Paine | MSOM Ep. 840

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Welcome to Making Sense of the Madness.
I am Jason Burmese.
We got a jam-packed show for you, tripling up on the guests.
Mark Shafline, Zach Payne, and Steve Frank join us to talk economy, the Trump ruling.
Yes, they're going to take away his ability to do business in New York.
No trial necessary, folks, and much more.
buckle up and get ready to make sense of the matters.
Well, a judge in a civil trial in New York has ruled that Donald Trump has lied about the value of his assets, inflating them to try and get cheaper loans, that he basically exaggerated his wealth by over $2 billion by lying about what his buildings...
hotels, golf clubs were worth.
He even vastly exaggerated the size and the value of his own apartment in New York.
Now, this case will now go forward to a civil trial in New York next week over other charges of fraud relating to the Trump organization.
If found guilty, they could be facing a $250 million fine.
And this is quite separate from the criminal cases, the four different criminal cases that Donald Trump's also facing.
Okay, Sarah, thank you for that.
And there you have it, folks.
They are fast-tracking every single avenue to try to take Trump down via lawfare.
Can you imagine that he, his sons, and several other associates are no longer allowed to do business when the man owns Trump Tower and other prime real estate in the mecca of the financial capital, not only of the country, but the world.
It's complete madness.
And by the way, if you have some hopium on the civil trial coming up, the same judge that made this ruling, well, he's overseeing that case.
We're going to discuss this and much more, especially Trump trying to fight back and say that, well, this is obviously unconstitutional and his rights are being trampled upon.
I would have to agree.
We've got Mark Shafline, AMP News contributor and economic aficionado joining us.
Mark, thank you so much for being with us.
What are your thoughts on this ruling?
Jason, as a longtime Florida resident, judges like this in New York help explain why 800 people a day are moving into the state of Florida and why West Palm Beach, believe it or not, is rapidly becoming the financial center, not only of the southeast, the state of Florida, but of the United States.
A lot of firms that were formerly based in New York have relocated to downtown West Palm Beach, which is 25 minutes north of where I am doing the show with you today here in Delray Beach.
But it's insane what's going on up there.
It is no surprise that you have rulings like this from among the deepest of the deep blue states.
Now, no one in their right mind would try to use the court system to disqualify a presidential candidate.
But you know what, Jason, I'm going to take a page out of Steve Bannon's playbook, and he mentioned this on his show the other day.
It's no coincidence that when that poll came out that showed Donald Trump beating Joe Biden by 10 points, you know, the alarm bells went off in the Democratic Party.
Look, they can't do anything to stop him from running.
That strategy failed.
He's actually higher in the polls, both in the Republican Party and in state elections, which is, as you're well aware, that's how these elections are decided, than he was before all these charges came about.
So if that strategy didn't work, now what's your next strategy?
My guess is they're going to try to do everything they can to keep him off the ballot.
Now, you and I both know at the end of the day, the Supreme Court's not going to allow a major party candidate to be left off the ballot.
But I got to tell you something.
If this was any ordinary American other than Trump, they wouldn't be putting up with this.
So I think it's a travesty, but it's not a shock coming from a blue state.
Now, what kind of precedent does this set for other people that may want to get into politics and are corporate or real estate moguls, especially in a state like New York, California, et cetera, where obviously we do have large-scale businesses and large-scale real estate worth tens, sometimes hundreds of millions of dollars.
Doesn't this send a chilling effect to anybody that wants to be politically involved?
Forget about just running, but even perhaps donating to the wrong candidate.
You know, that's a really good point because what they're trying to do is just eviscerate not only Trump, but they're trying to hit it as donor-based.
They want people to be fearful of even associating themselves with Donald Trump.
And again, that's something you see in communist countries.
I mean, I could go down to South American dictatorships and you could get better situation than you have, you know, what Trump is having to deal with here.
I mean, literally, Jason, they're trying to throw the book at the man and nothing works.
I think what's happening here, a lot of Americans are going to put themselves in Trump's position and say, you know what?
What if I was in his shoes?
What would I be doing?
I'm not going to attest whether his real estate values were accurate or not.
Hell, real estate goes up, it goes down.
Trump had a reputation.
This is, to cut to the chase, look, he's had a reputation for inflating values on his real estate for 30 years.
I mean, this is not something new that came out of the blues.
Everybody in the industry knew it.
His bankers knew it, but they played the game.
So now we're talking 20, 30 years after the events happen.
You get some prosecutor in New York wants to make a name for himself, just like the ones did in Atlanta, Washington, D.C.
And what are they going to get out of it?
Well, they're going to get recognition in the Democratic Party.
That's what they're going to get.
But this doesn't certainly rise up to something serious.
It's not like Trump borrowed the money and defaulted immediately on the loans.
That'd be a completely different story.
You know, the guy made the payments for the most part.
Now, I can't attest he made every one of them.
But had he not been making his payments, you would have heard about that more than this case.
So I think it's all politically motivated.
And back to my point about people putting themselves in Trump's position.
You know, most people in this country already feel the government is not behind them.
And that includes a lot of Democrats too, because those poll numbers wouldn't be where they were without it.
So if you picture Trump as fighting this, that's just going to help him.
In other words, we have some really good candidates, and there's going to be a debate tonight.
But you know what?
None of the other candidates are facing the adversity that Donald Trump is.
And I think that's why his poll numbers continue to go up.
No, and several of them are being openly promoted by the establishment.
Obviously, Ron DeSantis at the head of that list, but now Mike Pence and Nikki Haley also after the last debate.
And by the way, this is why I love having you on, Mark, because a lot of people will not acknowledge that Trump actually did probably inflate his properties.
But as you said, it was common practice at the time.
You look at the people that he was working with, especially when you get to New Jersey, and Lord knows whether they're going to come after him there as well via the gambling, et cetera, and his associations with Roy Cohn.
This was an open secret that people knew about.
And if it was really that detrimental, they would have used it in 2016, but they already thought they had it locked, stock, and barrel for Hillary, so they didn't want to play that card.
I want to move on a little bit into the government.
Now, the government may shut down.
Personally, I don't give a flying rat's harness.
The more shutdown, the better.
Let's cut the fat.
Let's get rid of a lot of this bureaucracy.
But I also see that key economic data may be withheld if, in fact, this happens.
What's your take?
My take on this is that, you know, while our side, and this is not going to be a popular answer, while our side echoes what you just said, there's a little reality that we have to face here.
And that let's say we shut down one week, two weeks, even a month.
A lot of people on our side are going to think, well, that's going to save us a lot of money.
No, it doesn't.
Because the way these government contracts are written, full disclosure, I have a sister that's a very high up in the DOT, and I'm going to be meeting her this weekend.
We're going to talk about it.
But from past knowledge, no government employee loses a penny if there's a shutdown.
They don't work, but they continue to have their pay accrued.
So that's part of the fallacy of what we're dealing with here.
Now, I don't see a solution in the short term here because the sides are dug in.
Now, will the Senate come together?
Yeah, they always come together.
It's a collegial environment.
But I don't think that's going to happen in the House because you have fractions that are literally pulling opposite each other.
And you and I know, and for a balance of our audience here, if that vote were taken right now, the only way that they could get a continuing resolution passed is if Democrats come over with moderate Republicans.
Now, what happens there?
Do you really think Kevin McCarthy's speakership survives if he can't muster the majority of his party to support what they want to do?
I think that's problematic, Jason.
And I don't really, I'm not seeing a lot of winners here coming out of this.
Ultimately, what we want to do is reduce the spending, but that's going to take an agreement from both the House and the Senate.
And I just don't see that in the cards right now.
I don't either.
We got to take a break.
When we come back, I want to talk China and beyond.
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We are back and we're talking to Mark Schaftline and- And Mark, we've talked about China several times on the program and the economic collapse that has happened not only in the real estate market, but some of the banking industry over there.
We now see somebody from Nomura Investments, their main investment banker, being ordered to stay on the mainland.
Are we looking at prosecutions and possibly nationalizations of some of these institutions?
There's no question about it.
I mean, if you think about China and how their leadership performs, think about this for a minute.
They have imprisoned, tried senior executives within the government when certain things like this have happened in the past.
You know, if I'm running an investment bank in China and I get that notification that says do not leave the country, that does not spell a good future for that individual or those individuals.
China has historically done this.
Why do they do it?
Because China infiltrates everything.
And if they perceive that any high up-ranking official has done anything that could be to the detriment of the Chinese Communist Party, whoa, that is not a good sign.
So, yes, they will do that.
Yes, China will take whatever steps are necessary for China's benefit.
Don't buy any of this stuff that you think the Chinese are good corporate citizens by spreading their quote wealth around the globe.
It's just like this: the Chinese try to infiltrate everything, Jason.
I mean, they've done it here in the United States from our educational systems, military espionage.
I mean, we catch them all the time doing things.
And it wouldn't even shock me if they've infiltrated somewhat of our banking system somewhat.
So, yeah, that's not a good position to be in if you're getting detained within the Chinese Communist Party in China.
Well, let's talk about this other story of their World Bank investing in green energy firms throughout 2030 and other green investments.
Anybody that's really been following this knows that the carbon credit system has something that's been on the back burner for decades and been invested in.
It has taken a global shape.
However, China's constantly expanding.
They actually are utilizing things like coal, natural gas, and oil in a manner that we're not doing anymore in the Western world.
Yet, the front is that they are leading the world in green technologies.
So, how much of this is grandstanding?
How much of this is money laundering?
And how much of this is really the empowerment of global governance and institutions like the United Nations and their SDGs?
I think the bulk of it are your first two points.
You know, the Chinese Communist Party and the state, the country of India, by far, the two largest polluters in the world.
I mean, China was building coal-fired energy plants when we were shutting down our energy exploration.
I mean, perfect example.
I mean, they will try to use the credits for political purposes, but and they'll get praised by certain greenies at the UN.
But the reality is, China continues to build coal-fired power plants.
They are the leading polluter in the world.
It's not even close.
And yet, why do they get a pass?
Because when some of these reforms were agreed to, China was a quote developing country.
China's not a developing country.
China is fully developed.
You know, they've got an economy that basically is growing, according to their statistics, double what it really is.
You and I know the absolute truth that that's not the case.
But when you take these carbon credits, and we have talked about this before, and you get all the greenies here in the United States that want to hit our oil and gas companies, which by the way, are tremendous companies, and pound them, pound coal companies, even natural gas companies, the cleanest burning fuel there is.
And we take stupid steps like walling off Anwar, where there's literally hundreds of billions of barrels of oil and natural gas.
And we say, well, no, no, we're never going to drill there.
And the Chinese are taking advantage of that.
And they're importing oil.
They're doing whatever they can to grow their economy.
While we're taking stupid pills and doing just the absolute opposite of that.
Jason, it's a travesty what's going on.
And I looked up my monitor early this morning before coming on your show.
Oil is now trading $92 to $94 a barrel, approaching $100.
I got news for you.
I got to get a flight out to California later this week.
And when I get out there and fill my car up, it's going to be $6.50 a gallon.
Okay.
I know that's a shock to a lot of people around the country.
You know, here in Florida, we're paying $3.50 a gallon.
In California next week, with $100 of oil, if that hits, you're paying $6.50 a gallon.
All I can tell you is these greenies in Congress, the Biden administration, which you just can't figure it out.
Why do they continue to do things to hurt our country?
I mean, I think I know the answer.
I think your viewers know the answer.
It's not that we have stupid people.
It's just their policies are so backwards.
And this ESG stuff, particularly energy credits, it's hampering our economy and it's helping economies like China and India.
Well, I think it's destroyed by design, especially the American populace and the Western world in general.
You just mentioned almost $100 a barrel oil.
Now, I had another guest previously this week saying that he thinks that oil is going to be going to $150 to $190 a barrel within the next six months.
Is that a possibility?
And if in fact that happens, what does that look like for prices at the pump and beyond?
Well, I'm going to give our audience a little bit of a positive to that.
If we get oil, and I'm going to go even lower than that, if oil starts approaching $125 or higher, Donald Trump will win the election next year in a landslide.
It may make that Washington Post poll look conservative.
You know, we've seen this movie before, and it does not end good for the American consumer.
Think about this for a minute.
If oil prices, and let's use your previous guest analogy of $150, could it happen?
Yes, it could happen.
Will it stay there?
I don't think so.
Because what tends to happen economically, and this happens all across the globe, right now you have shutdowns of refineries throughout the Middle East.
That's contributing to part of the reason these oil prices are where they are.
But when prices tick up to that level, just like every other capitalist across the globe and has been for time, people will step in and say, hey, wait a second, $150 a barrel, I'm going to lock that price in because my cost is, you know, the Saudi cost is less than $10 a barrel.
So you're going to see astronomical profits, but I don't think they last.
But that's enough to inflict a lot of pain on a lot of Americans.
And picture this.
We already look like we may be heading to a little worse than a soft landing, as a lot of the Federal Reserve economists were hoping for.
You know, interest rates have been rising.
The dollar has strengthened significantly over the last five trading days.
That's not supposed to happen.
Normally, when the dollar goes up, oil goes down.
But because of these supply imbalances we have right now, oil's ticking up while interest rates are going up.
We're going to start seeing a rise in the unemployment rate.
And guess what?
If this economy tilts towards a recession in Q1 of 2024 or the fourth quarter this year and oil prices spike, it's not going to shock me if the Democrats look in the mirror and say, we got to do something at the top of the ticket.
We cannot have an 80-year-old guy that can't even stand up running, leading our ticket with oil at these price levels.
The economy headed towards recession.
I mean, think about it.
Have you ever seen a president elected when the economy got bad and oil prices were high?
This reminds me, I tell you, I'm dating myself a little bit, but this reminds me of the Jimmy Carter Ronald Reagan election where, you know, the Malays settled in in the country and Carter got associated with the word Malays.
Now, you know, bless his soul, he's still alive and he's fighting through hospice and we wish him the best, but, you know, that's just historical fact.
And I tell you, if that happens, Donald Trump is going to ride into the White House, you know, on a white horse.
Well, I've got to agree with you, even though I didn't really live through it.
You know, I was just kind of being born at that point.
But you look at historically, you know, that economy, you can watch the gas prices, the shortages, the economy, the inflation.
There are a lot of parallels there.
Mark, it is always a pleasure.
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Tell people where they can check out the Shaffline Report.
Well, you can go to ShaflineReport.com.
Obviously, I'm traveling this week, so I've got some guest hosts in, but I'll be back in the saddle next week.
And it's always a pleasure being with you, Jason.
Great show.
All right.
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Steve, thank you so much for being with us.
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Oh, I got started actually many, many years ago designing electronic medical equipment and did that for a couple of decades.
Then I had children and the problems that they get as far as daily colds and upset stomachs and such are not treated well with allopathic medicine.
And so I got started on this journey by using my engineering skills and my physiological understanding that I got from working in that field for many years to find ways to deal with these problems.
And it turned out that natural medicine had many of them available.
Now, in that piece, you kind of emphasized early treatment.
That's something that's been a little controversial and demonized over the past few years.
Can you talk about that importance and really how the medical industry doesn't seem to value that at this point and instead wants to let you get as sick as possible before quote unquote treating you?
Yeah, Jason, I'm not sure they really want to do that.
I think doctors mean well.
They're restricted by a system that will not allow you to see doctors or to be treated until you have truly demonstrated an illness.
And that's where we need to empower the people to take care of their own health and put the strength of some good tools in their hands so that they can deal with these issues before they become so sick that they have to see a doctor.
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It's just that our system of healthcare is not set up to disseminate that information or endorse these means.
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What are some of the other products, especially now in fall, moving into winter, that you would suggest people stock up on?
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We got to take a break, but when we come back, we're going to be talking not only the presidential debates coming up this evening, but their response via the Biden administration and a guy named Gavin Newsom that I've been telling you to keep your eye on.
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And before we get into the Trump ruling, which we've got to talk about, the upcoming trial, the other four indictments, let's talk Gavin Newsome.
Every week when we talk about this election cycle, I say keep an eye on this snakey McSnake.
Biden's Snakey McSnake Picket Line 00:15:27
I mean, the guy exudes terrible, and now the Biden administration has tapped him to actually represent them after tonight's debate in response.
That on top of his recent interview on 60 Minutes, where he's clearly grandstanding and preparing to be the president while being asked and saying he won't answer the question, and then gives a little hee-a-duba-daba-duba-dooba.
I don't know if you've seen that clip.
I'll be sending it to you in a Twitter DM after this, Zach.
But this is the guy, in my opinion, that they would like to somehow slip into the mix instead of who?
Joe Biden.
He also happens to have some ties to Hunter Biden.
There's more email communications between the two arise.
What are your thoughts, Mr. Payne?
I think you're absolutely right.
I tend to believe that the administration is hedging their bets right now because we've talked about Michelle Obama before as well.
Her profile is beginning to rise.
They're starting to talk about her.
She's doing the same type of whistle-stop tours that we saw Gavin Newsome doing a couple of months ago.
Now he's appearing on national television.
They're sending him to represent the DNC and the Democrat Party after this debate.
Of course, Gavin Newsom, like you said, is the definition of a sneaky snake.
He's an absolutely disgusting and loathsome individual.
I think personally, I'm really going to enjoy what his response is going to be tonight because Gavin Newsom really doesn't have a platform to stand on.
I mean, the country largely, I believe, looks at California and they see it as a failed state.
I mean, it's certainly not a state that I think the rest of this country should be basing any of their policies on.
The taxes are out of control.
The immigration situation is out of control.
The situation with crime is out of control.
I mean, in once great cities like San Francisco, you're going to find more human excrement on the streets than you will successful small businesses.
It's just sad.
I think it's America.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Sad.
Gavin Newsom told me on TV, Zach, that California, California and New York handled the COVID-19 44 nightmare much more successfully to Florida than Florida.
And to prove it, he's now going to debate establishment candidate Ron DeSantis.
This is supposedly going to be taking place on November 30th.
Sean Hannity is going to host this thing.
It's going to be in Georgia.
We've talked about the possibility before.
It's actually happening.
What are your thoughts?
Well, I think it's a foregone conclusion.
I mean, the establishment on the right wants Ron DeSantis to be the candidate.
The establishment on the left knows that they have to have a backup for when Joe Biden is inevitably unable to do his job.
If that happens before November 2024, Gavin Newsom is certainly a solid pick.
You know, he's got all of the hallmarks of your typical slimy deep state candidate.
And to be fair, Ron DeSantis seems to as well.
You know, I've enjoyed Ron DeSantis as my governor down here in Florida, but I feel that he's just been disastrous as a candidate on the national stage.
I think that this is going to be a laugh riot.
For Gavin Newsom to pretend that California or New York had any better performance during the pandemic than Florida did, I mean, it's a pipe dream.
It's absolute fantasy.
It's fan fiction.
So Gavin Newsom is going to get up there.
He's going to say a bunch of things.
He's going to seem very, very slick.
He may even look better than Ron DeSantis just because he lives in Hollywood.
You know, I mean, he's got the experience of acting in a way that I think Ron DeSantis doesn't have.
But I don't think the American people are going to be swayed one way or the other.
I really feel that the majority of this nation are looking at what's happening here, especially in light of what they're doing to President Trump.
And they understand that these two candidates are being pushed upon them.
This is not really a choice.
This is more of a, you know, choose one of these guys or else.
Well, let me just say this.
You look at the timeframe on this, and we're now looking at two months away.
Okay.
First of all, the civil case with Trump kicks off on Monday.
That's a big deal.
The law fair that they now successfully waged against Trump is going to take a huge hit for him economically.
If you look at how much Trump Tower or his hotel or the many other businesses that he runs in New York take in, that's a monumental cost.
Now, will it be overturned?
The appeals process is going to cost him a lot of money.
And remember, it's not just Donald Trump.
It's both of his sons and other associates.
Now, in two months, we could also see movement in what?
The criminal trials.
I also think the establishment is hoping through the debates, which we'll also discuss probably next segment, they're able to, I guess, rise DeSantis and Newsom's image in the public eye and make them more viable candidates.
Again, we're 60 plus days away.
What are your thoughts on this latest ruling via Trump?
Is it going to potentially cripple him economically, at least partially, and cause him to have to really go into his donor base prior to primary season in a way that he didn't have to do in 2016?
And what do you think will the outcome be of this civil case in light that the judge that just made this ruling is overseeing that case, SAC?
Yeah, I certainly think that this is going to handicap President Trump, whether it's going to permanently disable him or not.
I'm not so certain.
Even if he does have to dip into his donor base, I think the American people are going to support him.
If you take a look at the donations that he's brought in almost immediately after each one of these various decisions to indict him or to attack him through lawfare, the American people have responded over and over and over again.
Regular people are not donating to Gavin Newsom or to Ron DeSantis or to Joe Biden.
They're donating to President Trump because they see him as an extension of themselves.
What they're doing to President Trump is much the same as what they've done to a lot of regular people who had the courage to stand up against this corrupt bureaucratic system that's running Washington, D.C. and a large part of the world right now.
And this is simply an effort to stop a man who wants to make things better.
This is the exact same playbook that they've used against regular American people for the longest time.
The difference is Donald Trump has the means.
Even if they're able to successfully shut him down for a period of time, I do not believe that it will be a permanent thing.
And I do think that obviously this is going to go all the way to the Supreme Court.
There's no way that this isn't going to be seen by a higher court.
And yeah, this is totally unfair.
It's a disgusting display of grotesque power.
And I think that it's only going to backfire against these people.
I think they're panicking.
That's the only reason they have to do this.
Well, I think it's putting on display how corrupt the injustice system all the way around has become.
And I think it's also a precursor to how they plan on conducting these actual indictment and criminal trials.
Because when you have a judge that is making rulings of this significance with no jury whatsoever, I think it sets that chilling effect and precedent for them to say, you can't enter this.
You have no standing here.
You're defaulting there.
Guilty, guilty, guilty, Mr. Giuliani and Navarro, and possibly beyond that.
On top of that, I also made the point to Mr. Schaffline earlier that I believe this sends a chilling effect to people that may be in business that either want to run for political office or decide to economically get behind a candidate that is perhaps Trump-like or anti-establishment.
They may go after them with lawfare.
What are your thoughts?
I think you're absolutely right.
And I think that that would be a major component of this.
You know, traditionally, they've gone after every single person that's aligned themselves with Donald Trump in any measurable way.
You know, there are ways to support a candidate like President Trump or somebody else running for office, which can, you know, obscure the source of funds.
And I believe that there are many people out there who are adept at doing so.
It probably happens for sleazy candidates all the time and sometimes for good people as well.
And that may need to be the way that this goes down because it certainly is going to frighten people.
But I think that the people it's going to frighten are perhaps the people who would be most vulnerable.
You know, for a lot of us, it's getting to the point where we have nothing left to lose.
They have essentially stripped not only our freedoms, but our ability to make money.
They are showing us that they're willing to stop at nothing to end this completely ridiculous scenario with the total destruction of someone who really does want the best for America.
It's horrific at the heart of it.
And I think that people see this for what it is.
So on the opposite end of the spectrum, while the media is cooing, cawing, doing the happy dance that the judge has made this ruling, you have several things coming out in the Hunter Biden case.
Now, a lot of this is just old news and it's stuff that we've known, but now we have a direct payment on the record via Comer of $250,000 to the Biden residents.
Yes, Joe Biden's own home where they found the documents with the Corvette and the yada yada directly to Hunter Biden.
Again, this overlaps with while not only this was while he was running for president in 2020.
This overlaps when he was vice president.
We have this information, et cetera.
And the news on the flip side is that he's out, what, picketing because he really cares about the United Auto Workers of America with a bullhorn.
He's the first president ever to get on that picket line.
Joe Biden loves America, but takes Chinese money, Zach.
Absolutely.
You know, the situation with these two payments, you know, certainly it's damning.
It's another brick in the wall, so to speak.
But I don't know that it necessarily proves much because Hunter Biden at that time was using that address as his personal residence.
You know, also, it's worth noting that Bo, the late Bo Biden that Joe Biden frequently likes to bring up, his name is actually Joseph Robinette Biden III, if I'm not mistaken.
So it's the same name.
I haven't seen any specifics on whether this was specifically to Hunter Biden or whether it was to Joe.
But either way, I think that that is certainly significant in the larger scheme of things.
Now, with Joe Biden heading to the picket line in the UAW, you know, this is really not the kind of behavior that presidents have engaged in in the past.
They've always maintained this kind of like neutral distance from a scenario like this.
It shows to me that Joe Biden is desperate.
Donald Trump recently announced that rather than going to the Republican debate tonight, he's going to go and speak to the UAW.
UAW rank and file have been giving statements to mainstream media recently suggesting that maybe it's time for them to choose a different person to vote for.
Joe Biden may show up at the picket line, but he's also the one who's pushing this green agenda, which is forcing closures in the American auto industry.
It's forcing the loss of jobs in these traditional union manufacturing plants because a lot of that electric vehicle manufacturing is done by non-union workers.
So it's saving the corporations money, but of course, it's bad for the people.
And the people are going to vote with their wallets.
Now, it also is now, I think, going to backfire on him with those auto companies because him showing up to this picket line and saying, you know, you guys deserve more money, that puts a lot of undue pressure on the actual companies themselves.
So really, Joe Biden has got himself between a rock and a hard place.
And if you take a look at some of the faces of those people standing next to him as they're, you know, hanging out there on the picket line, it's quite clear that a good number of those picketers are not in favor of Joe Biden.
They're not happy with him being there.
And I think it's a hollow gesture at the end of the day.
What?
He spent 12 minutes hanging out, five of which he was trying to get a bullhorn to work.
The other seven, he was kind of shuffling around looking for somebody to give him a clue as to where to go and what to do.
And while he was there, he got to grope a middle-aged black woman for a couple of those minutes as well.
I don't know if you saw that, but hey, that's classic Joe Biden.
The only thing that's missing is him sniffing a baby's butt.
And I'm glad we missed that one.
But no, you're absolutely correct.
And the media clipped out like 30 seconds of Biden and played it where he was semi-coherent.
Clearly, the man doesn't run anything.
Clearly, he doesn't know the ins and outs of that industry.
They're asking for a 40% wage increase and a four-day workweek.
Now, I'm not saying that they shouldn't.
Yeah, four-day workweek.
So I'm not saying that, again, these people are being treated or paid fairly.
That's not what I'm saying.
But I'm saying Joe Biden doesn't give a rat's ass and can't at this point.
But 20 years ago when he could, he sure didn't.
Wrapping it up on the Bidens before we go to break, Hunter Biden is now suing the IRS and the whistleblowers.
What are your thoughts?
Well, he's not only suing the IRS and the whistleblowers, he's also suing my friend Garrett Ziegler, and he's suing Rudy Giuliani and his former attorney.
These are all suits that are in California.
I think they're frivolous.
They're not going to go anywhere.
And despite the fact that California is largely a sympathetic state to the Democratic interests, I think that they will be found to be frivolous.
And at the end of the day, Hunter Biden is not going to be able to continue to run from his problems.
Of course, he has quite the bankroll.
I mean, we know of at least 30 to 50 million dollars just hanging around in various accounts that he can dip into to fund these lawsuits.
Chris Christie's Unexpected Breakout 00:09:07
But the longer that this stays in front of a court, I mean, the more evidence from the laptop are going to necessarily have to be revealed.
I mean, Hunter has made the claim that, you know, they released confidential information from the whistleblowers.
Well, you know, there's actually laws dictating their behavior.
I mean, they were federally protected whistleblowers.
So they didn't reveal anything that wasn't already out there.
As far as the laptop is concerned, Hunter Biden signed a contract with Mac Isaac at the repair shop where he forfeited the laptop and everything on it.
Actually, there was two of them, if I'm not mistaken.
And he forfeited all the information if he didn't pick it up within a certain amount of time.
He was busy.
He was at the Standard Hotel with a couple of hookers and smoking a big bag of cracks.
I mean, he couldn't be bothered to show up and pick up his laptop.
So that was no longer his property.
He's going to have to show that somebody actually manipulated this information because that's obviously not what happened.
I mean, we've got forensic investigators who have looked at this laptop.
They've verified the authenticity of it.
And in the same way that I feel like the establishment is panicking by going after Trump using the legal system as their last vestige of a hope to destroy him, this is Hunter Biden's last best hope as well.
And I just don't think it's going to be successful.
You know, how dare you come down on Hunter Biden for having a good Tuesday?
And it sounds to me like you're feeding in to some pretty hardcore Russian propaganda guy.
I've got 50 plus Intel people that are ready to sign a document that says so, Zach.
We're going to take a break when we come back.
I want to talk about tonight's debate.
Republican style, the guy gave Asa Hutchinson the boot.
Will Viva steal the show?
I kind of think so, but we'll see back after this final segment of Making Sense of the Madness.
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Zach, this is it.
This is the big moment for Chris Christie tonight.
It's going to be his breakout moment.
He's going to surge in the polls.
He's the next Republican presidential candidate.
That's how it's going down tonight, right?
Oh, good Lord.
My favorite part of these Republican primary debates is just watching these people scurry over each other like crabs or rats in a bucket.
It's obvious that none of them are going anywhere.
And what you said before the break there, I think you're absolutely right.
Vivek is probably going to own that stage, largely because his policies are based on the policies of Donald Trump.
He is seemingly Donald Trump 2.0 for the younger generation.
Chris Christie appears to be bitter.
He looks like he's got heartburn all the time.
He just really doesn't have good policy to talk about.
And he certainly doesn't have a record.
I mean, you know, he has a record for corruption.
Take a look at Bob Menendez.
I mean, the slate of politicians from New Jersey.
I mean, they have a greater propensity to engage in public corruption.
I don't think Chris Christie's any different.
And I think that it's laughable that he's been able to make it this far.
I mean, who is donating to this guy?
Asa Hutchinson?
I mean, he's no ace in the hole.
I'm glad to see him gone.
He was just, you know, kind of laughable as well.
But I don't know.
I just did not expect Chris Christie to continue on to this point.
He must have some major corporate donors.
Well, I feel like Christie is there to make other candidates look good.
And the psyop that they tried to play in the last debate was trying to have him prop up Mike Pence for shooting down Donald Trump and his coup attempt against the American people to overturn an election.
AKA Mike Pence to do his constitutional duty to turn the voters back so we can audit the election, so we can have the correct outcome.
Christie portrayed the outright inverse of reality, and that's what he's there to do.
At the same time, I still think, like you said, DeSantis is the establishment candidate.
You can see that as they're pushing him literally two months down the line.
But the other two people that I believe the media will give the most time to are Nikki Haley and Mike Pence.
And I think they're going to go heavy on Nikki Haley tonight.
What are your thoughts?
I think you're probably right.
I mean, they've been pushing Nikki Haley for a long time, but I mean, which she's never risen above like 1% in the polls.
I don't see her as a very strong candidate.
You know, it's a pipe dream as far as I'm concerned.
But yeah, her and Mike Pence, they're the safe bets if they can't get DeSantis through the gate.
I hear he's got enough money in his accounts to last a little bit less than 30 days.
So this section of this story arc should be over pretty soon.
But Nikki Haley is not excitable.
She doesn't have a real personality.
Mike Pence, I mean, Republicans largely consider him to be a Benedict Arnold.
And I think that Democrats, you know, they're not looking too favorably upon him as well.
Independents are going for Donald Trump.
And I think the majority of Republican voters are going for Donald Trump as well.
You know, this is kind of just a sideshow circus freak attraction.
And whatever they do, they're going to attempt to make themselves look presidential.
And I don't think it's going to work.
You know, President Trump said before that many of these people are just auditioning for the role of vice president.
I don't see anybody besides Vivek that even comes close to fitting what we would possibly want in somebody as a vice president for President Trump.
I mean, what do you really want in a vice president?
You want somebody who's going to be able to speak, who's going to be able to give interviews, who's going to stand there behind the president and sign things if he's not there to do it.
Somebody who's going to be able to go to another country and not fall down the stairs of Air Force One or Air Force Two.
It's a pretty low bill to fit.
But more than anything, you want them to actually support your agenda.
And Vivek is the only person that I see doing that.
So despite the fact that the mainstream media is going to be favorably looking after these other candidates, I think Vivek is going to steal the show again.
I absolutely agree.
And I think when they look at Nikki Haley, they're kind of hoping that they can rive a second Sarah Palin wave where they can just kind of have somebody in the background that looks nice and says the right things.
You know, but Sarah Palin, really, a cautionary tale.
She's somebody that was very establishment for a long time, started to wake up as things got more and more corrupt, and even turned out speaking out for Julian Assange and now has really been relegated to forgotten.
Doesn't have those sweetheart deals to be commentating on places like Fox News, CNN, or MSNBC.
Shocker.
Suspicious Circumstances Surrounding Origins 00:02:09
We got a few minutes left, Zach.
What else are we missing this week?
What else are you covering over at Badlands?
Oh, gosh.
You know, this week, well, the last couple of weeks, we've been doing a series on my Monday program, Baseless Conspiracies, with my co-host, John Harold, on the suspicious circumstances surrounding the origins of Barack Obama, beginning with the birth certificate, moving into his multiple social security numbers and aliases, the likelihood of a number of different men, not Barack Obama Sr., being his father.
And then, of course, we're just this week getting into the mystery surrounding the origins of Michelle Obama, Big Mike, and those kids.
And I think we're probably going to end up capping it all off with the death of their cook recently.
And then in the other program that I do on Wednesday nights with my co-host Brad Goetz, we've been talking about verifiable examples and released documents pertaining to weather warfare throughout the years, because there's been a lot of discussion about maybe intentionality surrounding the Maui fires.
So we wanted to look and see, you know, what can we actually prove in regards to these things?
And I think it's been pretty interesting.
Well, I hope that you're looking into people like Ben Livingston, the godfather of weaponized warfare, in his interview with Alex Jones all those years ago.
I hope that you're looking even beyond directed energy weapons and into solar radiation management and different geological programs, as well as HAARP and beyond.
But I'm sure you are because you're top not Zach, and we love having you here.
We will see you next week.
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