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Hey everybody, Jason Burmes here, and for the next 30 minutes to an hour We've got a very special treat.
I got a DM from my buddy this morning while I was doing my show and It was actually right before my show and I saw this and I think it's just such an important point to make, so We're paying for a blue check mark.
So many people out there in the alternative media or the quote-unquote red pill sphere, which I kind of want to explore even more, think everything's great.
And Elon Musk is a hero and he's given us free speech back.
Now, at the same time, in short order, he's changed the bird to X. He's openly talked about this being the everything platform and another form of payment system along with authentication, which I want to get into with WorldCoin and the orb launching and Sam Altman and all that other good stuff.
But right here, we're paying for a service.
Everybody acts like it's the best thing since breakfast.
I've seen, I've been losing followers the last three weeks.
I've been losing subscribers on YouTube.
All my numbers are boss.
And it doesn't matter because all this shadow banning, et cetera, it goes beyond that.
They have people inside these companies.
There are blacklists.
And Ryan Christian is on that, obviously.
I mean, he's been banned so many times from so many places that he's started pirates dreams.
Obviously, The Last American Vagabond is where you can find all of his stuff directly.
But not only will they not let him advertise, he meets all the requirements and gain revenue, right?
The only reason I bought my damn blue check mark is because they took Media Studio away.
And if I wanted to post my show, I had to pay for it.
So I'm paying them.
And he can't even join a community.
So to kind of talk about all this and probably much more in the post-truth world is Ryan Christian from The Last American Vagabond.
So I said a mouthful there, but let's kick it off.
I mean, first of all, you are a media platform.
You do original content.
You also do great commentary on source documents, which to me is original content.
What else are you doing as an investigative journalist?
I mean, if you really think about it, in this day and age, you can sit there and watch a press conference live with all the other reporters about six out of 10, if you're lucky, get a question in in this administration.
Like, and I'm talking, there's another 30, 40 of them.
You're doing the same damn job, those other 30, 40 people, only you're honest.
That's why they don't like you in the post-truth world.
So, I mean, take it from here because obviously the social media landscape is a problem because so many people think it's been fixed or there's an alternative and clearly there's not.
And there's certainly not an alternative for you to make the kind of revenue on a platform like YouTube and possibly on X or Twitter or whatever the hell it's going to be called in the future.
Yeah, there's so many directions to take it in.
You know, I think that what I tend to think the people that are most concerning for the establishment are those that are objective, you know, more so to a false and nonpartisan.
And I think that's a really difficult category for the, I mean, all that we see to control, which, I mean, let's all be real about it.
I think we all see from whatever perspective we have that there's an entities trying to control your perspective.
I don't think anybody even denies that anymore.
So the hardest grouping to control are those that don't really partake in the political games.
You know, that's my personal opinion, but I think we see that I often use James Corbett as a good example.
I mean, the guy is an OG.
Everybody knows James Corbett in this field.
And yet you'll find a lot of the partisan hire people that you can prove have looked and referenced and even used his work in the past that have never mentioned him, never interviewed him.
And I don't know, I'm not going to say it proves anything, but it just is a good example to show you that there's like a no bound, like an off limits, even for people that may not think they're being pushed to do that, you know?
And so in regard to Twitter, you know, first of all, your comment I laughed about there is just, you know, giving us free speech, which I know we both agree on.
It's not something that is given or taken away.
It's an inherent right that people either respect or don't, you know, or governments respect or don't.
And that's where we're off, you know, the idea that Elon can save it, you know, it's just a funny, it's framing him to have the hero to save something that he has no ability, you know, like, again, it's whether he honors it or not.
And we can prove that he's not.
Freedom of reach, freedom of speech, as I think it was, I don't want to misquote who it was.
I had a great interview with somebody.
No, that was absolutely 100% Elon Musk.
No, no, no.
I'm sorry.
I didn't mean that.
I meant what I was about to say is ultimately that somebody in an interview I had made a good point that freedom of reach, I think it was Sam Husseini, freedom of reach is just as important, if not more important than freedom of speech.
And in fact, if you look back historically through it's it's it's considered part of it.
It is part of the same thing and it's protected in the same way.
But now we played this game where he's the one that drew that line and argue he's the one saving it when he made he made a very clear line that proved he's not fighting for it if you look at what it really means.
And I think that's interesting.
But you know, at the same time, we're also kind of living in this place where, you know, obviously, especially with my other gig with AMP News, I'm paying attention a lot more to the other candidates, even if they don't have a chance.
And Vivek Ramaswamy is saying some things that I like.
I mean, he's the only person I've seen in, and I'm talking about major politics.
You go from Congress to Senate to now running for president where he lies.
That, no, it's not acceptable.
And he used specifically Alex Jones as an example.
And he's like, there is no wrong opinion if you are for freedom of speech.
So yes, no, all these people have to be reinstated.
And nobody else has said that, which is completely discomforting.
And the bottom line is, it's very apparent, and it has been very apparent, not that these things are public utilities, but they're certainly not protected as, you know, they're not, they're publishers, right?
They edit things, period.
They tell you what is real and what is not, or they algorithmically deny people like you and me a voice, period.
And that's just the way it works.
So they clearly should be able to be sued like anybody else, like any other media company.
And I would argue, you know, a thousand percent, and this is real.
And one day I hope to win in court.
You know, that's the goal.
In fact, I'm going to wheel it into existence right now.
But if I look at this right here and I go to why I can't make money on YouTube, okay, and I'm going to go to the little earn and it says, oh, I want you, they want me to become a partner.
Do you?
Because as far as I know, where is they?
Have they changed?
I haven't been in a layout in a while.
Why am I not up for monetization?
Can I earn money now?
Did it happen out of nowhere?
Because it used to be I couldn't earn any money because I was harmful content.
This is crazy.
Yo, if I got my modernization back today, that would be start earning your journey.
No, that's not true.
I've got to reapply.
I'm 1047 YouTube channels, so I'm on the other side of the world compared to this.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
No, up until this latest update in here, I guess, you know, I did do something with the playlist.
It said that I was harmful content and I focused on whatchamacallit.
I think we're in a new age of censorship.
I'd be really surprised if they let you get it.
But here's like what I think that is, is the same thing with Twitter's doing is that, or I mean, my opinion, let's make very clear, my opinion of what I see happening.
I think a lot of people are picking up on it, is that you can go to that old, which I don't even know if it was ever accurate, but those sites that you could be like, are you shadow banned?
And you just show different things.
I mean, they've long known that we look at that, right?
So my mindset would be that we're in an age where it's not whether they just shifted the way you can detect these things or just we're in more of a.
It's like censorship is there, but much less used than aggressive obfuscation, suppression.
You know, almost like this, the point I've made before that I wonder whether we're all engaging with and I don't just mean cultivated different versions of the site based on your engagement, but like literally different versions of Twitter based on what they want you to see, and I think that's not even that radical to think about, you know, and so I think we're watching.
In the case of YouTube, I'd be willing to bet that they just redesigned everything you know, so it looks like everything.
But you go through these processes and you'll find an air page or something.
That's what I'm dealing with.
If in Twitter, if you want to get back to that point, but I'm talking down, talk about whatever, but Twitter in that, in what I just am dealing with right now, it's really confusing.
And if you want me to talk about yeah no, I do because listen, first of all again, people ragged on me because at first I didn't want to go with a blue check mark.
Right, that's what I was going to go with and and the thing was, when I the only reason I did is because Media Studio, out of out of nowhere, was gone and I was utilizing that.
Look, it's not like I get a ton, but if I can get an extra thousand views, 500 views.
Every little bit helps man, and I'm trying to get this out to as many people as possible.
Right that's, that's the whole goal.
So I'd be stupid not to do it.
And we get there and then all of a sudden it's gone one day and I'm like all right, and then, you know, I read through the thing and it's telling me all this stuff.
And then they tell us they're gonna bring back periscope.
And I'm like, wait a minute, your extension of Media Studio was periscope, what do you?
And they were acting like it was grainy.
It wasn't grainy like if you had a good RTMP and a bit rate, it looked great, like everything I had for years.
So weird.
They put that narrative out there right, so I buckled.
I paid for it so I could repost my shows, you know, and it's great.
Now I can post more than two minute videos blah blah blah, blah.
But I'm also supposed to be treated like everybody else.
And, by the way, this is the real deal apparently, with the, with the rehash, I am gonna get to reapply.
People will be on my reapply journey soon.
Let me know what happens.
I'd be surprised if they gave it to you or like I'm.
I'm gonna go ahead and predict now that you'll find some like unexplainable nobody else experiences kind of like you know you go through the process and it just doesn't compute for some reason, like that's what I feel like we're dealing with.
I'm about to do it live on air.
Let's do it.
I mean, this is this, is it?
We're gonna accept the terms.
Okay, while you're doing that, you mind if I go off on the other part of it?
Yeah yeah, go nuts.
It looks like it says it's done okay.
Yeah okay, it says we're we're getting reviewed.
We did it live.
Let me know.
I'm curious.
But the Twitter part the same thing is that, you know, first comment on this.
I think this is such a fascinating like social commentary, you know okay, so Twitter before was an obvious tiered system.
I mean, they loved it, it was open right, you didn't get the blue check, even if you met what they arbitrarily put on its requirements, if they just didn't like what you talked about.
It was very, very public and we all knew that, and so, whether we liked it or not, you still kind of regarded it as oh, the blue checks, and then people that weren't in that club.
I mean, that's how every, and you maybe, maybe you revered it, maybe you thought it was gross.
I, I thought it was ridiculous.
Nonetheless it was.
We all saw that now.
Then, All of a sudden, these things change.
Now, I know we've all been on the same page with this.
I've never supported this.
I think Elon is part of the problem, point, quite frankly.
And I think that what's happening there is a manipulation.
The Twitter screenshots were never what we were told.
Big surprise, right?
We all called this.
And so, but my point was when it shifted, I was like, Well, if I get my account back, why not?
I'll go through the process.
Let's see what happens, you know.
And I made that commitment and I never thought I would get it back.
And then I got my account back.
And I said, Oh, that's wild.
Maybe this is a positive thing.
You know, like, who knows, right?
I'm open to those things.
But I went through the process and it wasn't, it wasn't, it didn't even cross my mind that it was somehow like a violation.
Like, there's so many people out there that feel like this is, oh, the people that fell are like, like you said, like, you, you, you decided to cave.
And it's like, it's an interesting framing, right?
Because people pay for a thousand things.
Every time people out there watch corporate media, you're supporting that platform.
But we do it because we want to engage.
We want to be involved with this because we want to, you know, there's a thousand reasonings.
My point was I did it because one, I said that I would, and I fell, I followed through.
And then I immediately saw that, well, there's nothing they're asking for.
It was my number that was already on file.
Because my point was if they're going to ask for verification, that's always a no for me, right?
And I went through the process and it was done.
And a week later, I had it.
Now, what's interesting, well, I guess one point further on that is that I wonder why people so quickly pushed back on that and now act like there's like this new if anybody can sign up, then it's obviously the exact opposite of what it was before, even if you pay for it.
So the real point is that you're giving money to Twitter.
But all these people are also using Twitter.
So it's just a very strange common.
I don't think they really understand what's being argued.
I think it's more of a psyop kind of a thing.
But anyway, that's point aside, I went into it, right?
And I said, okay, whatever.
I got the check.
Let's see what happens.
And immediately realized there was something going on.
Like it was just very strange.
I have the check.
I've proven that.
I signed up for it.
And then all of a sudden, I'm like, well, why can't I post long videos?
Why can't I?
And I started looking and I'm like, I don't have any of the benefits.
Like this is before subscriptions or any of that.
I'm just like, this doesn't make sense, but whatever.
You know, it didn't matter at that much at the time.
But then I started looking in and seeing how it happened.
Then subscriptions popped up and I couldn't sign up and then ad revenue.
And everyone's like, I got $10,000.
And it's like, you know, so I'm just, it's not like I'm, you know, everybody wants to benefit off of that.
Nobody, anybody, you know, begrudging them.
It's kind of a weird thing to do.
Whatever.
You know, we're getting money to be able to continue our work.
Some of them, I don't think, are honest people, but it's up for you to decide.
But my point was, I thought that was pretty crazy.
And so I reached out and I'm like, why am I not getting all this?
And it was immediate like that they didn't even respond.
I'm actually going back and forth right now.
But what apparently what they're saying is that I have some kind of a glitch.
That's what I've heard from Twitter people.
I'm actually talking right now.
And I'm like, oh, really?
Right.
And so my point is you go to sign up and I can, I don't have to bring them up.
You've seen them.
But you sign up for subscriptions and it says, I don't have the blue check, which it's obvious that I do.
So I think this is going to be like a boom, boom.
We'll fix that.
No problem.
And apparently they're all just like, we don't know.
If I try to re-sign up, well, let me.
So I'm literally being boxed out.
And then comes this new thing that Josh Walco shared with me where I'm not even allowed to be added to communities.
That's not me doing that.
That's other people trying to add me to their communities.
And they're like, he's not allowed.
You try to search for me in many cases, it doesn't pop up.
I mean, Robert Inlikesh, you try to tag him right now.
I mean, he doesn't exist.
So there is absolute shadow banning happening right now.
And they don't, like, they're going to put a tag on it.
I mean, all this stuff.
It just shows you that there's such an obvious effort to keep certain people suppressed.
Now, whether you think I should be engaging this or not is sort of a separate point.
I mean, I'm open to that.
Like, I get we shouldn't be supporting these people and however you look at that.
But isn't that strange?
And I think it's to the point you made to begin with that there's a people on the right that are, I mean, clearly choosing to ignore that this is not what they think it is.
And that's pretty unnerving, isn't it?
Yeah, I mean, it's unnerving, especially because they're supposedly the red pill community.
And I've always hated that term Because it plays right into partisan politics, in my opinion, because red team, conservative, blue team, Democrat, even just the idea of being awake, especially if you watch those films and where they ended up with their pro transhumanist message and the Wachowski brothers, now sisters, and their journey.
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There's just a lot of bizarre.
I'm not saying don't watch the film.
I'm not saying there aren't certain messages and takeaways.
I'm all about art.
That's not what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is it's still divisive and it plays into this left-right paradigm, whether they realize it or not.
And I've been a guy that said, look, man, we need to get beyond this and we need to get beyond this idea that we're going to not only vote our way out of it or that some savior is going to be able to give us that.
And we've kind of gotten the demagogue with Trump, right?
But at the same time, you know, you talked about speech and the shadow banning.
And, you know, that's where Trump shows a lot of his failures.
And people need to acknowledge that too.
And they won't.
So let's start with the fact that all of a sudden there was deplatforming on social media starting with Jones.
Right away, whether Elon Forward?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, right away, Trump should have stepped in and said, wait a minute, we can't do that.
And, you know, if you don't want to do that, we will.
I believe it's subsection 203, the protection.
We're going to take that away immediately, executive order.
Instead, what he allowed to happen was progressively it to get worse, and Jones was the test case, and it was okay.
And then hearings to come, and all of a sudden, the disinformation, you know, super storm started to proliferate.
You still haven't regulated any of these companies, which are crawling, crawling, with not former FBI and CIA and NSA, but current people working for subcontracted organizations that have plausible deniability.
100%.
That's what signature reduction is.
By the way, I had Kash Patel walk off my other program after bringing up signature reduction.
Well, you know what?
He waited till the break, and then he told people, oh, he was bringing up QAnon stuff.
I had the Newsweek article right there, and I screwed.
He said he didn't know about it.
I said, you need to read about it.
Like, I mean, seriously, because that's, if you're telling me those people that are in name companies aren't in the tech companies and there's 60,000 of these people, you're being very naive.
So you have all that.
And then you have this idea that he didn't stop it.
And he didn't come to Assange's aid, even though he sent Rohrbacher over there and he let his Department of Justice do the Espionage Act thing.
Now, not only has he got the Espionage Act charges down in Florida, remember, all the Trump Tardians out there were like, well, it's a Trump appointing a judge.
She's going to move the case.
She move it.
It's just like I said, it's going to be right around election time.
They're really going to try to put him in prison.
But now they've criminalized speech.
So forget about on him.
And this is where you get sympathetic for the guy, right?
At least I do.
One of the charges out of the three ludicrous charges we've seen from Jack Smith is this idea that he conspired to disenfranchise voters.
Now, traditionally, I mean, I looked it up.
Disenfranchimisement has a political overtone, but it is the feeling that you are not represented in the political system, which, by the way, Ryan, I haven't felt for 20 fucking years.
I saw you post about this.
I think it's a great point because it's hilarious that what it ultimately boils down to is that by removing, which, by the way, at those like multiple levels, Trump didn't do that, first of all, right?
So the idea, and I'm not a fan of Trump, you know?
No, I get it.
That's my point.
Neither am I.
It's just you're taking a word.
And now you've recategorized it that you're actually depriving an individual of the right to vote.
So now people don't have free will either.
That's another flip side psychological argument out there.
But now it's a crime, dude.
And like you said, he didn't do it.
But the term itself, we're in the upside down of new speak where we're criminalizing speech and we're going after who would be traditionally probably the most protected individual from any kind of egregious war crime you could imagine.
And they're flipping a word on him, Ryan.
Right.
Well, here's what I think is hilarious is that so the term disenfranchise, as you rightly point out, is, you know, where you don't feel represented essentially.
And it's a little more abstract than that, but ultimately that, you know, you, by actions of powerful people, feel like you're no longer part of something that you're inherently a part of.
And what's hilarious is that that is where we already exist, which is kind of what you were saying, is we're in a situation where our vote doesn't matter.
Wake up, everybody.
Your vote doesn't translate to what's going on.
And every side seems to be aware of that until it bumps up against the other side of the paradigm.
And then we all push back, you know, oh, it's Russia.
Oh, no, they stole it.
Yeah, we're all being lied to, right?
It's not actually happening.
You know, machines we point out one year and then we lie about them the next, you know, from paradigm sides.
The point is that they already did that.
So to argue that by somehow pointing out that the process is broken is him disenfranchising us is just, it's Orwellian.
It's a classic thing they're doing.
They invert everything, which is kind of your point, you know?
And I think it's just, it's embarrassing.
But then even more, he didn't even do that.
It's hilarious.
But, you know, and I played the clip today.
Bill Barr is on his, you know, Trump's guilty tour.
I played that too.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I got to be honest, though, I completely agree with his framing of the kind of person he is.
That's how I see him.
But I also think it's politically motivated.
Well, let me say this, man.
You know, and I pointed this out.
Even if Trump actually believed that he had lost, like it was a fair election, or not believe, but let's say Trump actually fairly lost, which I don't believe.
Oh, so he believed it was a fair election.
So let's say Biden actually won.
Okay.
I don't think that Trump would have believed he actually won.
And I don't believe that Biden actually won.
But my point is that his ego is so big that, correct, even if Biden had legitimately won, which I do not think in a fairy tale's chance, he would have been able to admit it to himself, won.
Barr is out there saying that he knew he lost and he didn't care.
And I don't think there's a moment, there's a moment of Donald Trump's life that he thought he actually lost to Joe Biden.
And quite frankly, for anybody that was actually following it and either didn't have severe TDS or was just completely politically uninitiated, had no idea what was going on, anyone that was remotely following it also felt that way.
You know, that Trump was robbed.
Come on.
Yeah, I think what's interesting here is that if you really take a step, I mean, ultimately what happened was nothing, like the truth.
What he actually said, nothing illegal happened.
Like, let's remember that even a president has free speech.
I mean, especially, right?
The point is that he can stand up and say, you robbed that.
That's illegal.
Even if he's wrong or lying.
Let's realize that just because you're in a position of power doesn't mean you're not allowed.
They do it every damn day, guys.
They lie to us every flipping day.
So what's funny is that right now, what they're really saying is that he stood up and said this, and then his statements later, they go wink, wink, nudge.
He meant go in the Capitol and take it over.
No, he didn't say that, though.
So what really happened was he said something, which I think is true anyway, that there was cheating on both sides for that matter, but that's a different topic, that ultimately that that is uncomfortable for the establishment, the power structure.
And so they have to make that.
Well, he then told them to overthrow the Capitol.
Otherwise, what are you saying?
He's not allowed to express his opinion?
Because they're not really saying that his statements that it was stolen are the criminal act.
It's that he then drove what happened, which, by the way, didn't even really happen either.
No guns.
It was such an obvious scam.
And they're still arresting people, right?
That's the problem.
They're still arresting people.
And here's my fear.
Wait, can I clarify one thing?
Sure.
Just because people are, and even it is a fair thing.
I shouldn't have said it like that.
Because obviously, there was an event.
People did break the law.
That's not, but we have to remember that if you step back and look at how this was brought to the moment, which your audience will knows, it was completely fabricated.
It was allowed to happen.
It was driven to action.
There were people on the ground in multiple federal agencies, which I think both of us proved weeks after this, but now it's breaking news.
FBI involved.
It's like, yes, I'm glad we have more information, but that's not breaking news, right?
But the point is that that shows you that these people were manipulated and even then chose to show up with no weapons, actively trying to stop that in a thousand different ways.
You know, so yes, people broke the law, but maybe that was an FBI agent for all we know.
Well, all right, let's talk about that really quickly.
Number one, anybody that did break the law in the sense that they trespassed, caused violence, damaged property.
They should have been, just like anybody else, processed.
They should have looked at their criminal record.
If their criminal record was non-existent and they just had trespassed, they went in and they should have been released on their own recognizance, quick court date trial.
That's the bottom line.
Now, if they assaulted somebody, same exact thing.
So maybe they don't just release that person on their own recognizance.
They've attacked somebody before.
Okay, they need to be withheld.
Many of these people were put in solitary confinement.
Then their trials were stretched out, given no court dates on purpose.
The complete opposite of what they're trying to do to Trump right now, to time it with the election, which is so apparent.
And then they were made to bend the knee and recant or turn on other people and sign.
That's what happens in the real insurrection.
That's the point.
Like the actual try to overthrow.
Like it's like an archaic, bend the knee to the new king kind of a thing.
Like that's what happens, really.
And that's what they've established.
And then on top of that, they had an ongoing show trial with no end date and no actual purpose by a Hollyweird producer.
And they put out what?
Clips of Jones, clips of Tim Cast, clips of Joe Rogan, who now has a Daily Beast headline where Ray Epps' lawyer says, if you want to know who caused the insurrection, maybe you should look in the mirror, Joe.
Because Joe Rogan obviously pushed people to insurrect on the Capitol.
Now, as somebody who was there, like there, I never went in.
I was right next to other media.
I did film violence.
Like you said, and it's weird.
Some of those people that were committing that violence still haven't been arrested.
I wonder why.
So weird, you know, that those, I mean, literally looks like a military type unit to get into the second level where those police are right by the scarf man.
Why haven't all those people been arrested?
Very bizarre.
Or by the antique, or let's just say left associated guy who's on the record being inside and yelling, we did it.
Sullivan, we made it.
I mean, John Sullivan on tape, and he's reporting in the Ukraine right now.
Don't you understand?
But he has political connections.
You can prove he was inside.
And you can even prove he admitted that they were faking being Trump supporters.
And you know all this.
Yeah.
And it's all in the open.
And then what they did to Chancely, the Muffin Man, aka the QAnon shaman, a guy that literally stopped people from the theft of a muffin.
And if you stole that damn muffin, let you be held accountable.
Like they're holding people accountable throughout major cities right now as they shoplift, by the way.
That's how accountable you need to be held.
I was a little skeptical when just I actually have come to agree ultimately that it seems like the guy was completely used, but I was a little skeptical at first because of the weird associate, like he was pictured more than once with that, that he was on a QAnon tour.
That's the problem.
He was odd.
Listen, he was one of those guys that literally treated these things like it was a Grateful Dead concert.
But the thing is, Ryan, like, I've now been covering it enough.
Like, I'd been there in D.C. in December for the Stop the Steal that I was already kind of seeing that.
And I'll say this, I was talking to legitimately cult-like people, and they still exist out there, where they were telling me everything was okay with Julian Assange, and he was in Guantanamo Bay, and they're getting ready to release him, and they're going to flip the election.
All these things were being told, and I mean, dead-faced.
And I talked to some well-meaning people, you know, and I'm sure you've now encountered them.
So, like, it wasn't hard for me to believe after I had seen that incident that this was just a dummy.
I mean, the way, yeah, all right, but like, yeah, that's nice.
You know what it was?
It was when he, at least I got the earlier news that he kind of got like, he didn't get charged or like he got released or something like that.
Well, he didn't get charged at first.
He ended up going, I remember he went on Jones's show before he got charged, and Jones was just ripping him apart for what he had done because he kept talking about Q and this great awakening.
And look, I get it.
Trump's a disruptor.
You know, I have another guy on my show, Weekly.
His name's Zach Payne.
He works over at Badlands.
I think he's actually a really good dude.
And his thing for Trump is: look, man, there's just so many normies out there that he's disrupted the system enough that they're starting to question things.
And he goes, on the flip side of that, I agree with you.
They just start believing everything and they gravitate towards the wildest stuff because they've been lied to for so long.
And that is a huge problem.
And that's what happens with a guy like that, who's, by the way, a former military guy, doesn't know quite what he's doing in his life.
But it also shows, yeah, the power of video, right?
And the power of what we kind of do.
Because once Tucker Carlson put out the video on mainstream that he was escorted around by police officers within a week, he was in a halfway house and a week he was out.
You know, and that took no trial, no judge, just the court of public opinion.
And really, that's why we got to keep at it.
And that's why Tucker was a big deal at that time and kind of still is because, you know, he's getting the media attention.
But at the flip, I saw, you know, your post about Andrew Tate.
And I have held my mouth on a lot of tape because I know where he made his money and I'm not a retard.
You know what I mean?
And a lot of people don't.
So, and I know how people are.
Like, you know, just because they look and sound great in front of you doesn't mean they're the same way behind closed doors.
So, you know, I think people have their blind spots.
Speak to that if I can.
Like, yeah, I got a different point.
You know, like, I mean, what really it worries me, like, I've always pointed this out when it comes to like a Tucker example.
You know, there's something to be said about getting certain truths in broad reach.
But what we see this game that's played, and this is QN on logic, that's where this really, I saw really popularized.
It's like, well, if we just get him asking questions, you know, it's like, no, no, no.
That's, you know, as well as I. I've said this many times.
If they get you asking the wrong questions, they don't care what answers you find.
They want you diving down these rabbit holes that they create for you.
UAP hearings?
What's that?
UAP hearings.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, I mean, there's a thousand different potential points right there, just where they create these.
I yelled at the same time, like, birds aren't real.
You know, it's like all these things, which people actually fall into, you know?
And if you just dig as far as you want on that, well, you're going to find a lot of prearranged things that you think you find.
And, you know, they're set up like that.
So the point is, taking it to the guy you said to interview, is there's something to be said for getting average people to just kind of go, you know, is there something wrong?
I mean, that is the most important step.
So I'm not going to begrudge that.
That's so important because that's the hardest thing to do to get them to finally break free, right?
But what I'm seeing, and I'm just caution people, is that so the establishment power structure is a wearer.
They watch what we do, right?
They know what we're this game back and forth.
So they're going, okay, if they're breaking through to people in a certain way, here's what we do.
And this is what I think QAon was.
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The analogy I made was that you had a time with Trump and everything else where people were waking up more than I'd ever seen.
Same with right now.
It's kind of come back again, full circle.
And so they QN on came in.
RussiaGate came in at the same exact time.
And what it did was there's a minefield.
You step out of this paradigm and you're like, what's happening?
And there's people like us going, oh, we're trying to give you objective truth.
And there's people right in front of them that are going, I've got the answer.
It's all right here.
You don't have to look anywhere else.
Trust the plan.
And they fall to it because they think.
And then they've got a community that goes, you're right, you're right.
You're in the right spot.
We're going to do it.
Everything's good.
And you know how difficult that is for that person to get past?
And so the problem is that, yeah, just get him to question is a good step.
But if you are like questioning and then falling into what I would argue is like a Trump discussion, a right-wing or left-wing discussion, you're not going to see the full picture and you're going to get mired in just another extension of what this is.
That's my personal opinion.
And the reason the tape thing I think is so important is, look, and I'm with you, man.
I just think the truth is important, even at our own expense, man.
I think I think you and I are on the same page with that.
And I think the problem with that is that this person was being raised up as like a paragon of manhood for youth that were literally, I saw posts going, I want to be just like Andrew Tay, you know, and I'm just going, God darn it, they don't see everything he says, or worse, they do, and they're actually feeling like that is what a good person does.
I make the analogy of Jersey Shore.
There were entire generations of kids that were like, I want to be just like them.
And it was all like womanizing and just, it was all about superficial, outward, you know, probably some of the most unhappy people you'll probably ever meet.
If you know them, you know, boom.
Right.
Boom.
Anyway, I just think that's.
No, I lived amongst that, man.
Like, listen, I'm from the East Coast.
I'm from that Long Island culture.
When that came out, I mean, in my better days, people would come up to me and they'd say to me, man, you look like, I'm like, fuck you.
Like, am I that vapid?
Like, I can't, I couldn't, I'd take offense to it.
I'd never seen an episode, just something in the background, or how they would act.
I watched Stern.
I remember I watched like the situation on Stern.
I'm like, these people are the worst.
These are the people that I went to college with.
So actually, for my audience that doesn't know yet, there is a documentary out there called Frat House.
And it takes place a year before I went to college at this college town.
And I actually ended up knowing a bunch of people in it.
And Todd Phillips, who's the director of Joker and the Hangover series, old school road trip, you name it, all these things.
That's how he got his start with HBO.
And he was the taxicab confessions guy doing documentaries that way.
And they let him do this.
They aired it once.
They got sued.
And they never aired it again.
That's where Jersey Shore spans from.
You'll see it right away.
There's a guy named King Blossom.
And like, I mean, all of them, they're terrible people.
They're awful.
And when I saw that, that they were being celebrated.
These are the people that I couldn't stand when I went to school and that to this day give me negative vibes about places like Long Island where everything's superficial and about things like that.
Miami.
And these are all places I've actually been.
It's not just me like saying that.
I want to make people clear.
LA, West Hollywood, they suck.
None of these people are, I'm telling people.
Like, you know, when the kids, my nieces would start being like, talk to them about wanting to be an actress.
Like, I go, listen, you have no idea how terrible most of the people in that industry are and how unhappy they are.
And I'm not going to tell you that money cannot bring you enjoyment in life and happiness and security because it can, because, you know, you can find a way to make that money and you can spend it in the right way and great.
But this fame and attention, it's never ending.
And then on to, then you put other type of addictive behaviors on top of it, whether it's drugs or sex.
And you, I mean, not a lot of people can manage that.
I hate to say it.
I'm not saying I could even manage it.
And the thing is, that doesn't ultimately bring happiness.
What brings happiness to me, again, lies don't make friends.
Truth is the ultimate love.
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And when we arm other people with the actual truth, they don't take two shots in their damn arm or three or four shots.
And if I could stop one person from doing that, that's a big deal to me.
Because the bottom line is, Ryan, right now we are still under attack.
Nothing has been fixed.
I want to kind of get your take on the 2024 election because you mentioned more and more people are continuing to wake up.
A large part of that, in my opinion, is Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
And there are big positions I disagree with him on.
I've seen him flip-flop on Israel, for instance.
I brought up Trump's relationship to Israel also because one of the big things, I don't know if you saw this clip, but on CNN, they brought some guy with a kind of hillbilly accent.
I'm just saying on.
And he was just so damn proud of his country that they indicted Donald Trump.
He likened it to the day they killed Osama bin Laden.
And he literally said, you know, that Trump was a terrorist like bin Laden.
I thought to myself, you know what?
Bannon has come out and said day one, they're going to declassify all that, gave that big war speech.
I'm not buying into it, but I thought to myself after seeing that, you know what they should be saying?
If they're genuine, forget about all that stuff.
I get it.
We should have all that.
I want 9-11, and I want the war criminals behind.
I want day one declassification, everything they have on 9-11, forget about hearings.
Day one declassification.
And when the criminals are outed, we put them in jail.
Dick Cheney goes to jail.
Condoleezza, right?
I mean, those are the real criminals that are still in charge, them and their cohorts.
So why not start there?
I don't disagree, but because none of it's real.
They're lying about what they're going to do.
Really?
I mean, I know you think that already.
How many times have we been offered the JFK files?
And every time there's like a drip of something that doesn't really change the conversation and we don't get the whole picture.
It's about stringing you along in the hope that might change.
It gives the people that are on the fence enough to go, okay, I'll vote again.
Like maybe he, let's see this one more time.
You know, it's the most important election of your lifetime.
You know, they see it too.
They're not dumb.
They see that people are losing faith in a system that deserves to not have faith, you know, in the system of the scientific community and all these different things that we've been forced to, you know, like for a long time now.
You have to listen, trust the science, but people aren't there anymore.
And it's not because, like I saw this ridiculous graph on the New York Times or something about how, you know, Democrats are slanting up and Republicans are all the way down.
And the TED thing was like, you know, politicians that have faith in the scientific community.
It's like, what a dumb thing to write.
Like, so your argument is if you don't have faith in the community, you're unscientific.
Well, that's just clumsy as hell.
The point is that we've proven over the last three years, this community has been broken by a lot of different things, you know?
And that's kind of the general point of all of this, you know, is that I think that we can see very clearly that people are, you know, pushing past all this.
And I think that's going back to the tape.
That's why those kind of things are being driven forward.
Why Candace and Tucker can do interviews with apparently zero due diligence and just let this guy dump his lies on everybody.
You know, it's because that this person is being, they want us to fall back, you know, and I and I understand why the overreaction in a way makes sense.
You know, on the other side of the ridiculous paradigm, we're getting forced into something that is equally ridiculous in the other extreme.
And so people are looking for something else to counterbalance that.
And you got this guy who stands up and pretends to embody all of the masculinity and all the things that they think they're fighting.
But in reality, it's just another ridiculous extreme.
You know, we need just genuine, like, you know, in all of that, where are all the morals, the integrity, and, you know, all of this stuff?
It's just all about outward, ridiculous, you know, I'm going to chop myself up to look this way or I'm going to do, you know, everything is ridiculous and extreme.
And people aren't buying it anymore.
That's what I'm seeing more than anything.
Well, I think that people have to, again, find balance because, look, a lot of things that Tate says publicly are great.
You should try to get in good physical shape.
You should have balance.
These are benign, basic things.
I know.
It's like we all, it's not new and unique.
You know, like as Steve says about him, when he's like fighting the Matrix, he's just like, dude, you are the Matrix.
Like, what you're doing is exactly what people actually are fighting against.
And he just stands up and says, 9-11 bad or like whatever.
These like hollow things that everyone goes, yay, because most politicians have never said it, you know?
But at the same time, I think that's the same way that you saw Jordan Peterson come up.
He was saying some very basic stuff, in my opinion.
Look, I'm not a huge fan of him today, but he has said some pretty damn complex, like brain, like some of the early things that got him famous were things that were like paradigm-shattering thoughts that people hadn't even opened their mind to.
And yes, he was doing the, you know, like what a man should aspire to, but it wasn't the same thing.
He was doing things that were, it was openly about integrity, about family.
All right, well, I'm not, I'm not arguing those points.
I'm just saying that he was saying like baseline stuff.
I'm not, not necessarily in a non-intellectual manner.
I get that part, but it was basic self-help stuff.
Also coming at it a lot, especially after he got famous with the attic things and, you know, all these devastating things in his life, which I think made him more relatable.
But in my opinion, he never really challenged the status quo when it mattered, especially with the COVID-19.
I'll hear that for sure.
Yeah, I mean, that's my point.
It's like, you know, these guys never really take, I mean, saying, you know, a man is a man and that, you know, I'm not going to use those pronouns.
That's like, okay, I understand you're taking a hard line stance and you're describing it well, but that's baseline stuff.
I agree.
Yeah.
Real quickly.
I think those are paramount.
Those are foundational.
Yeah.
It's the rest of the context that makes it like this is the point.
I can stand up and say all of like, let's do Trump during the running for electronic.
JFK, 9-11, lock her up.
None of those things happen because he knew he was tapping into what we wanted.
The rest of it fell flat.
That's the example.
But I would argue this.
You bring all these surface-level points, but then when you push people to not read, push them to, you know, you sell the idea of womanizing or the idea of like aggressive masculinity.
You don't have to call it toxic, but we all have to acknowledge that those kind of things or aggressive femininity, they're both problematic, right?
But so it's not, we need to find the balance in life.
That's what none of these sides are actually pushing.
Well, I agree.
With Trump, though, I'll say this.
All those things were farther than the other two guys that we were talking about, especially Tate back then, right?
And I was even going to bring a third person, a third and fourth person into the mix.
And my argument is that all these people are still allowed to be elevated.
So I was going to bring up, you know, Ben, what the hell?
What's Daily Wire guy?
Oh, Ben Shapiro.
Shapiro.
Yeah, I can't believe I can't even remember Shapiro's name because he's so big.
But like, again, Shapiro, I could probably agree with 80 to 90% of his stuff because it's baseline, like obvious morality.
No, no kidding.
Same with when Milo was getting hot, right?
Like common sense, statistics, 80, 90% of the stuff I get behind, then the extreme stuff.
But they would, with all of them, okay, all of them, except for Trump.
And this was other than Trump going further, they would pick on the meek, the weak.
Like, like, it was dunking on Some, you know, doofus leftist in a pussy hat, or somebody was.
Yeah, it was easy stuff.
It's easy pickings.
You know what I mean?
And at least Trump was taking on the political animal in front of everybody and it was flustering people, right?
So I think that's where Trump breaks the barrier on those characters, right?
And he could elevate himself because of, you know, you talked about the sex aspect and the womanizing aspect.
That was one of the first things that I featured long before Grab Him by the Pussy when he started to run.
I go, listen, we also have to understand the guy is an open misogynist.
I mean, like, it's just like, I don't know if you saw the story, but one of the old Chicago mob bosses just talked about Trump and his relationship with him during what I've talked about, by the way, Atlantic City coming up, because obviously they had to work with all the unions and the contractors, et cetera.
And he's like, he's going to keep his word.
He's the same guy.
And I kept telling people he's a gangster.
Roy Cohn was his lawyer.
He went to Atlantic City and built casinos.
And in that respect, you know, kind of like Tate had online gambling and all that other stuff, you know, there's a model there.
Trump, three wives.
Okay, the third one, allegedly, again, it's reported in the media.
I'm not saying it, auditioned for the job in a meeting by Epstein with 20 other women.
You know, I'm just saying, I'm not saying that happened.
I'm saying that's in the news and very possible.
Okay, he ran beauty pageants.
He was buddies with Epstein.
That doesn't mean he's a pedophile.
I don't know that.
What I am saying is all those other things are 100% true, so you know what you're getting into.
You know, Trump never wouldn't put Trump in the same category, even.
I was just using him as an example because I think it was a good example to show how people can use what we want to hear and the contents and it's not there.
That's why I was just saying that's.
Well, no, I think it's a good thing because all the things we just discussed, you don't want to hero worship that guy.
You ought to realize that, like, this is a fallible human being.
He didn't deliver on everything you said.
He said it, but he didn't deliver on it.
And, you know, it sucks what they're doing to him because it's going to enable them to do it against all of us, the weakest amongst us.
You know, and that's very, very scary, especially if they're successful.
They get you in DC.
They can essentially indict you and charge you and maybe convict you on just about anything.
That's yet to be seen.
But, you know, you talked about false heroes.
I brought up RFK Jr.
We really haven't talked about him.
I mean, I just watched a video of him talking about Smithfield and China.
It was great.
He's talking about atrazine and the water.
Obviously, he's talking more about the shots.
He just did a Jimmy Dore thing where he was really candid.
You know, everything you just said, but you know, let me where you want me to start.
I mean, I'm just saying, what do you think?
Yeah, well, like, so take any one of the examples, like the Jimmy Dore interview.
I think he resoundingly exposed his either he's knowingly lying about his stance or he's completely unable to grasp the reality of the Israeli situation.
That's, I mean, I don't think there's anybody who is not dishonest about that topic who can't see that.
Even Jimmy, like, quite frankly, I don't think he's going to debate Max Bluenbaum.
I don't think, I don't think Max is the best one to debate it anyway, but I don't think that that is going to happen.
Because one, even if you think he wants to be right about this, politically, it's a bad idea.
He's going to get attacked for it.
You know, so if you even think he's trying to actually politically win, which again, we can go back to whether I think that even actually translates a whole pair.
The point is that that is a for me, it's a huge, I don't know if I can get past that stance.
That is a morally indefensible stance.
We have to be real about what's going on there.
Like, for instance, I think it was, was it Vanessa?
A lot of people making these points.
He just put out a tweet about, I forget the guy's name, but bringing on a member of the Zionist Organization of America and his cabinet.
And people pointed out, oh, let's remember that I think it was Robert F. Kennedy wanted to list them as a foreign agent.
And the point is, like, how does he, he must know that, right?
Or the idea that he can stand there and say that Israel wouldn't use their nuclear weapons that we alternatively pretend they don't have unless they were attacked.
I mean, nobody should take that seriously.
You're speaking to what they think and feel.
Come on, that's as stupid as saying we know what Putin wants to do tomorrow.
You know, it's just not real.
It's a political answer.
And hey, maybe he's saying it all so we can get elected and he'll jump up the next day and say, I was legit just to get elected.
We're going to change the world.
I fucking hope so.
Oh, sorry.
I hope I'm wrong, man.
Just like, I hoped I was wrong about Trump.
I really do.
I want to see that.
But everything else screams to me to be a problem.
Now, going to the good stuff, right?
Yes, I've defended him at every step of the way when he talked about actrazine or specifically just about endocrine disrupting chemicals.
I defended him against the idiot Mediasan.
They was knowingly misrepresenting what he said, ignoring that there was peer-reviewed science that backed up what I, you know, all of that or the ethnic weapon.
Same thing.
I posted the study.
I talked about that actually not long or not that long before he said that.
I was like, hey, we just talked about that.
Here's the peer-reviewed study that says exactly that.
Ashkenazi Jews.
I think he was either wrong or remembering incorrectly about the Chinese aspect, though.
I remember I think it's only Amish and Ashkenazi Jews in the finding, but maybe he knows something I don't.
But all that's good stuff because he is waking people up to things that are so clearly like taboo.
You're not allowed to talk autism, vaccines, COVID-19.
Like, look, if I had to vote based on the limited candidacy, he's the best candidate.
Hands down.
I mean, it's crazy how obvious that is.
But at the same time, I'm very concerned because I very much have the opinion that the system is not genuine, that they would not allow this to happen if this was.
And I know that's hard to, that's just my opinion.
Well, again, I don't know how they give him the nomination.
Again, I'm not sure.
That's the thing.
I guess we've got to see up to the run.
We're about, what, 15, 16 months away?
Actually, that's the general election.
So we're probably about 12, 13 months away from the primaries, right?
And I don't know if there's a mainstream path for Trump to get the nomination on the Republicans.
Obviously, the deck we just talked about.
That's busterfuck, isn't it?
The rest of it's nuts.
Yeah.
But then on the other side, there's already discussed no debates.
And yet, did you just see this?
Well, Gavin Newsom is supposed to debate Ron DeSantis one-on-one for some reason.
That just got set up.
I know you can't make this up.
That's what I'm saying, dude.
We're in bizarro world where they're saying there's no one from the Democratic Party can speak up and run.
Kennedy's the only one.
He's the clear front runner.
But they can't even have a nomination process outside of Biden, but they really don't want Biden to stay.
Whether they want him gone before the election or after, I don't know.
Maybe there's something based on his health.
I mean, it's obviously getting worse and worse and worse.
So maybe now they think they do have to replace him last minute.
How long can they string him along?
Maybe that's why they cut the Hunter deal.
I mean, there's so much going on.
We have the Kamala aspect.
Now, I don't, just right out of the gate, I kind of don't think this adds up, but I've heard this a lot.
The idea would be to, you know, pull the Biden is, my pen, Biden is like mentally incapacitated card, you know, pull him out of the way.
Suddenly, Kamala's president.
Then all of a sudden, you've got Kamala, president, who can then run as I, I know what's going on.
I was just president, like in a first woman president by default, but let's make it real.
That'd be a hard thing to not vote for for women in the mindset of the political paradigm.
I would get that, even though she's one of the most unliked people in politics ever, it seems like.
Awful.
Did you see the rainbow thing?
Which one?
Oh, man.
She just, so they were at a Jesse Jackson, like, like, he's there.
It looks like a memorial.
He looks like he's dead in the goddamn seat.
But they were talking about the rainbow coalition, you know, which again, well-meaning group, kind of got hijacked by the left.
Obviously, you know, he was a big part of the beginning of the civil rights movement.
But she starts talking about the rainbow in like the regards that they've chose the rainbow for the LGBTQ community.
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Like, man, that's the insinuation.
I mean, she's doing it like we're in cartoon verse.
So listen, and nothing's off the table.
She's ridiculous.
I mean, I know you saw the video where she tried to explain AI.
Like, I don't even, I mean, I don't know if she got into that and was like, I don't know what I'm talking about, or actually thought she was explaining something, but that was probably one of the most, that was almost more embarrassing than the McConnell stroking out and standing there for 30 seconds.
Like, it's just, this is, it's crazy.
That's what I, again, and that's, that's the guy that's supposed to be speaking for the quote-unquote Republicans, the conservatives, the people that are fighting this.
And I'm sick of hearing about rhinos.
You know, it's all really a tough sell because so much of it is out in the open.
So much of it is actively criminal.
More of the Biden stuff is coming out day by day.
And here's the thing.
I mean, it's like we're talking about this stuff.
This is why it's so crazy to me.
We know that the Trump Justice Department had the Biden laptop well before the elections.
And Bill Barr is going to act like he didn't even know about it, right?
Like it was a big lie.
A propaganda campaign ensued that it wasn't even real.
That's how much power the president had at that point.
Now we're talking.
I'm talking about Trump during Trump's opinion.
Yes, yes.
I'm talking about during 2020.
Sorry, go ahead and finish.
I'll ask you.
Well, I'm just saying, like, you know, again, they have this.
His Justice Department has this.
And he's not even aware that they have the contents of it until Giuliani gets it slipped to him much later.
You know what I mean?
And possibly eight drives.
So again, that's how much power he really has.
So there's this campaign because that has a bunch of the crimes not that took place during even the Trump administration, but literally while the guy's the vice president.
All right.
So now we're talking about a scandal that spans from 2008 till now.
We're in the 15-year mark, right?
At the same time in 2019, we also have the Ashley Biden diary, which nobody will take up on and national file posts.
I don't know how you can, though.
Like, look, I don't dispute that, like, that's very possible with what else we've seen, but how do you verify something like that?
Well, she did.
All right, so I'm going to tell you, didn't you see what?
No, no, no.
I mean, she can say something, and it holds water because she's his daughter.
Like, that's still, but with the political scene, you know what I mean?
Like, it's just, it's hard to report on something like that with an allegation against somebody.
All I'm saying is, if you think about it again, I would.
If I interviewed her, I would, that's important.
Well, in 2019, I'm just saying that at this point, we have that diary, which talks about inappropriate showers with Joe.
Listen, but they have the laptop where they know that at the same time, and remember, she's writing that while she's in a halfway house.
They found pills too on top of it.
Veritas, I'm going to get into that in a second, releasing the phone conversation with Ashley Biden.
But they also know that Hunter is calling his dad Pedo Peter.
Not only is the frontrunner they're putting there, I mean, literally, you have two pieces of evidence on top of all the sniffing and the other stuff that this guy's that bad.
And that's the guy they're doing it.
Now, what bothers me even more.
I think we all agree on that.
Yeah, they want compromise.
They're not outwardly weird, and there's a thousand examples.
I'm just pointing out the Vindication.
You know, there's, I get why some people in the corporate media would be so afraid of that who might want to, you know, like, but nonetheless, this guy's, I mean, go ahead.
I have a question.
I'm just saying this is all.
We're talking about crimes that go back 15 years.
We're talking about like outward, maybe incestual pedophilia on top of all of it, outward.
And then none of it gets reported on during 2020.
Now, a lot of it is coming out in 2024.
We're talking about, again, now almost a two, two decade plus crime wave.
And I think that what they do is essentially they figure out a way not to charge or cut a deal with Hunter and have him step down Nixon style at just the right moment.
I mean, they're still saying it's scandal-free.
Didn't they just say that?
I mean, I've seen that document circulating.
Haven't been able to get into it yet today, but that there's a, you know, the idea essentially is that the deal for Hunter right now is that he can't be charged outside of the parameters of what they're laying out for anything in this conversation other than what might happen in the future.
Yeah.
Like essentially just giving him a complete pass right now.
And that's, you know, I'm waiting to see this kind of flesh out.
I'm going to go through the documents probably today, but that wouldn't surprise me at all.
Yeah, and I think that they'll cut that deal with his dad and he'll step down maybe over the clock.
I think that what they're also waiting to do is see how the documents case in Florida plays out.
Because if they're able to convict Trump there, then the idea would be to play up the documents with Joe and have him step down and not charge him.
We've already just went through so much embarrassment.
If they can't, maybe there's another way to get him out.
But to me, it's becoming very apparent.
Gavin Newsom seems to be the guy.
I know that Roger Stone is floating Michelle Obama.
I don't know about that.
But again, we're in such a situation.
Every year we get a Michelle Obama or there's a variation of these things that keep coming back.
I think Gavin Newsom is terrifying to me and makes politically more sense than anything.
I mean, just look at the last three appointments that like the head, I think it was the HHH, the CDC, and the NIH.
Like every single one of these people are aggressive, pro-mask, pro-lockdown, pro-vaccine, pro-mandate.
Every one of them, despite how much we just failed.
Like everybody acknowledged that lockdowns, articles in the corporate media saying 50% of children are now mentally struggling.
And they're all going, yep, we're going to do it again.
I mean, so Gavin Newsome, who was like one of the most aggressive politicians in the country in that regard, it kind of makes sense.
And that's terrifying.
It is.
So what that would show you, though, is that there is some kind of guiding force that is making all this, like it's not just Biden's administration.
You know, it's obviously not the China, but I don't think that's what this is ultimately.
I think this is much good.
Well, look at DeSantis on the other side.
Like, you know, everybody acts like Florida was so free.
No, only in certain areas.
I mean, they had the same terrible regulations.
I was down there.
Again, there's a reason I moved to Iowa and not Florida, period.
So they heroed him up.
Now, I will say, look, on the children and the trans issue, and this is why I don't think they would actually put him in.
He's good.
You know, I don't think you could get a federal them pushing a candidate that would federally do that.
I think Vivek is young and naive and an upstart, and maybe he's genuine.
At least he'll have the conversation.
I don't think they necessarily want him to be the nominee.
So now they're already trying to pit up this DeSantis Florida versus California.
And Hollyweird's going to win, man.
Like, they're going to give you the serial killer-looking guy from, what is it, an American Psycho.
Like, he literally looks like a grown-up version.
Like, if they allowed Christian Bale to continue to murder everybody he wanted to and have a political career, it would be Gavin Newsom.
Understanding Sexual Identity00:04:19
That's the push.
Yeah, I mean, and it makes sense.
I mean, you know, and even taking the trans conversation, for example, you know, DeSantis seems to be playing the counterbalance.
Like you're pointing out, right?
Like, yeah, we stressed the idea that he was good on COVID-19 and everything else, but then you could point out, well, there's some things that are, you know, the fine print doesn't make it seem that, that convincing, you know, and the trans point, what I kept pointing out, and it's a small point, but every bill they've done, 99% of it, I aggressively agree with because it's just about protecting children, removing the sexualization from what's going on in these, you know, whatever.
But, and I was, I've been all about that on the show.
But what I found interesting was that there was, I think, more than one example where they would insert something that would say, like, in the process of teaching, that they have to teach the values of heterosexual relationships.
And I'm thinking, okay, wait a minute now.
Like, as much as I agree, I agree with, you know, I'm a heterosexual person.
It's like, isn't that the kind of the same thing in reverse?
I mean, all it does is give, it should just be, we don't teach any, you know, this one's better than that, right?
And what's interesting is that that gives them the ammunition to say, okay, well, it's just the same thing.
All you're doing is, you know, it's like, we're banning these books and we're banning these books, which is happening, right?
They're banning all these books that, you know, and then, but they're, I'm not even talking about the sexualized books.
That's not even talking about.
I'm talking about, you know, but just to be clear, because some people might think I'm, I'm not.
Listen, the bottom line is it shouldn't even be an issue.
You can't have pornographic material sold to those under 18.
So it should not be available to those under 18.
And I mean, obviously, I think there should be some traditional, you know, teaching of health, especially in that era when kids are going.
What's that?
Anatomy.
That's all it's ever been is anatomy.
You're not teaching sexual positions.
You're not teaching fellatio and anal sex.
It's about anatomy and understanding how your body works.
And, you know, and look, as I remember it, that was 99%.
And there was like maybe some small overlap to like something around sexuality, but it wasn't about like talking about this with the teacher or expressing anything.
It was just like, this is that, and we're done.
Like, yeah, it was, it was more, I think we went as far as like kissing.
Like, I think there was as far as like kissing was like, you know, the even that I would say is a little too far.
I mean, what you're doing is you're getting into a level of this that is not about understanding how your body works sexually.
It's about sexualizing it.
You know, it's about talking about sexual identity.
And that shouldn't be on the table at all.
Well, I think they were talking about the muscles in both the lips and the tongue and how they were vast and the nerve systems and something like that.
And that's why it was pleasureful.
So, you know, the same thing if they would talk about intercourse.
I mean, there was that much of it in there.
You know, again.
See, that's my point, though.
Intercourse is about understanding how babies are made.
Yes.
And understanding anatomy and understanding how these things work.
Yeah, you have to talk about ejaculation and these things, but not in the sense where you're like, here's how you can do it for fun.
And here's how you can do it on your friend.
It's like, that's what you're reading in these books.
I'm not making that up.
It's wild, man.
I agree.
Nobody needs to learn about the London Bridge or anything like that.
Let's be honest.
It's out of control.
Save that again for the parents and the home life and those discussions.
That's where it belongs 100%.
And they've tried to now not only take that away from the parents, but then criminalize the parents for not only questioning whether or not their child is being taken care of there, but if they're questioning their gender, they can literally put them on life-changing drugs and suggest they get surgery.
I mean, we're in a weird place, man.
In California, they can take them away now.
Yeah.
It's on the record, right?
I mean, that's, again, to the full circle point.
That's why I think Gavin alarmingly makes more sense than anybody, because you look at the agendas playing out.
As much as we want to frame them as a left or right-ish, it's not.
I just don't think that's the reality, man.
And I think there's a much bigger game, as we've talked about, the transhumanism, the great reset direction.
And so, you know, Gavin would play a role, I think.
And even if they want, like, even if you think about the vanilla ISIS sort of overlap to this, like if they could put someone like Gavin and then he goes, like, I mean, imagine something that's even harder than what Biden's doing, right?
You're going to see a civil war.
I mean, and I'm not like, I'm never advocating for violence.
I quite frankly think it is the wrong path on almost any circumstance unless your life is being threatened.
But I, you know, as things evolve, I'm wondering if I'm wrong about that, but that's how I feel, right?
Transhumanism's Great Reset00:05:07
But people feel differently.
My point, though, would be that if you get to a point to where you're like, like this, if you're knocking on the door for your children kind of a scenario, people are going to do something.
And I think that might be what they want.
And then it becomes framed as that exact situation, the right-wing terrorist Nazis who don't care about children, except it's the exact opposite.
You see what I mean?
It's the inversion of truth.
Exactly, man.
It terrifies me.
You know, we've been going a little over an hour.
There's still one big topic I want to talk about.
You know, we started with Twitter and censorship and X and possibly having to be the everything app and the financial system onto its own.
Under two weeks ago, Sam Altman of Chat GPT, the new anointed builder, bro, launched WorldCo with his partner.
Now, WorldCoin also has this orb factor, so that if you purchase an orb for however many dollars, every iris that you harness, you get paid for, but you don't just get paid for it that one time.
That's how it works.
The people that then interact with the WorldCoin app, the more interaction that they have, you get paid more money.
Those are the people that own the orb.
Now, the other people are basically signing up for a UBI program that also authenticates them as human.
So once a month they check in, they get one WorldCoin.
They get their UBI, the Universal Basic Income.
Now, on top of that, it is a verification system that they hope will enable the democratic process to flourish as well.
There are already two locations in the United States.
There is one in California, and there's one under the World Trade Center, actually, where you can go get your IRIS scanned right now.
Now, there are certain laws for it being adopted in the United States, not from you taking part, but other regulations, if you will.
But other countries are adopting this out of the gate.
And we have people lined up blocks to do this.
What are your thoughts on this?
And I mean, obviously, this is a beta test of a blockchain UBI incorporated into biometrics, but there are a number of uses from authentication systems to, again, a slave state social services type program.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, you pretty much laid out the majority of the issues.
I think what is on top of all of that is just the kind of how many people are willing to line up.
Like, so, you know, this is, we may, people may not recognize what this truly is, right?
But they're going, okay, if we put out this, you know, this enslavement, who's going to step up for it, right?
Who's going to just go, I want that, as long as we give them a cookie when they're done, you know?
And I think we're seeing a lot more than we might realize are willing to just, you know, even with everything that's out there, like, I'm not even talking what they might consider conspiracy theory.
Just the general conversation about where this is all going on the surface and why that's not alarming to people.
It just blows me away.
But I think where this all goes is very clear.
We're talking about the use of biometrics.
We're already seeing that used in regard to like face scan apps for accessing things, including retail, commercial, whatever, like being able to go shop.
That's happening all over the world right now.
China's, that's long since been over.
They've been doing that forever, right?
And so it's all kind of boiling up.
But then you've, like you said, you got the crypto overlap.
So now you're getting people involved in this that might not have already done it, but in a way that kind of hooks them into almost like an addiction to the system, right?
You're saying you got the UBI where it's like, okay, well, I'm not going to turn away free money.
So what am I supposed to do today?
Like it makes me think of that weird TikTok thing that I was trying to clumsily describe on the pirate stream the other day where they're pretending to be NPCs.
Have you seen that?
No.
It's fucking weird, man.
I think I might even have it up here.
Hold on.
Yeah, here, this is so weird.
It's like a game they play.
Let's see, a window.
There we go.
So check that out.
Okay.
So this is, it's like a TikTok thing that's gone viral and it's out.
It is weird, man.
So basically, I can just play the video real quick.
So basically what it is, is these people are creators and they people on TikTok apparently can donate to you using different types of like, you know, ice cream, hot dog, whatever it is, right?
They just, they hit the ice cream and it's like it's like five cents or whatever.
I don't know the actual breakdown.
And the point, though, is that you're supposed to act the way an NPC does on a video game, where you've got certain pre-programmed responses.
And if you respond the right way, you get a donation.
And it becomes like this self-fulfilling, like Pavlov's bell kind of a scenario.
And it's getting people invested in both like digital money, but also this kind of just the bell rang, do your thing, kind of a thing, just like you're talking about here with the new.
So check this out real quick and you'll see what I'm saying.
Coconut, so good.
Mm, coconut, so good.
Balloon.
Grab, grab, grab, grab.
Mmm, coconut, so good.
Grab, grab, grab, grab, balloon.
Ice cream, so good.
Ooh, mm, mm.
Oh, take you, DC.
You gotta feel like it's cool.
That's all it is, man.
On and on and on.
Surprising War III Indicators00:03:57
Isn't that crazy?
Now, what you're seeing there, and for some reason, it looks like you couldn't see.
That's the one on the NBC article, but you couldn't see what you normally see is all these things popping up.
Ice cream, hot dogs.
Oh, I saw, I saw like the, yeah, no, I did.
I saw that.
I saw the crown one, yeah.
And the point is that, so they're seeing what they're giving.
So like a pop thing pops up.
They go, oh, ice cream.
And then I don't know if it's that you don't get it if you don't do it or the people go elsewhere, but ultimately they're being programmed, right?
Like soldier, like engineered into this.
And they're probably making, apparently some of them make a lot of money.
But then you end up doing this like eight hours a day thing.
And what's that doing to your brain?
But that's the secondary thing.
It's just about training.
I don't even think this is about anything other than getting these kids kind of in this mindset.
You know, your thing popped up, do what you're supposed to do.
It's really concerning, and it'll overlap that with what you just said.
You know, that's where I think this goes.
Well, I think so too.
I think it's kind of a beta test for a blockchain CBT C style also to see as more people partake, obviously, the programmability of it, the smart contracts that are involved in it.
I don't know if you know this, but yesterday our credit rating as the country went from AAA to double A.
So, you know, the implosion continues.
Hasn't had that since like 2011, right around the financial crisis and, you know, the bailouts and all that other stuff.
Not surprising.
Yeah, not surprising.
And, you know, again, this is – I'm also worried about World War III and, you know, the fact that you've got – I think we're in World War III.
Well, I think we are too.
Well, I think we're in actually World War IV.
I think it's arrogant of us not to consider the war of terror that's still taking place, like literally a world war.
Yeah, isn't it weird that we don't call that a world?
It's obviously what it was.
Multiple countries, multiple stages of wars.
Exactly what it was.
But we were just such a dominant aggressor and we just said they're the axes of evil.
We didn't even have to be the allied powers.
You know, we were a coalition of the willing.
You know, we've, again, changing the language, Bernesian talking points.
That's what it is.
Yeah.
We're in the age of, we're like, just like we, I think you and I have talked about like the shift from like regular war to proxy war, right?
We're in a new stage.
The proxy war is still happening, but we're in the age of just, you know, nothing.
It's, it's, I mean, Orwellian, I hate using the word because it's so overused, but just these contradictory terms, you know, where you're being sold something that's the diametric opposite.
You know, it's not, you're fighting for freedom.
We're not, it's not war, you know?
But, oh, shoot, where were we going with that?
It was the, I just lost my train of thought.
We were talking, we were talking about World War III and World War IV.
Thank you.
World War III.
Well, or four.
The point is that I think what we're at now, after the world, you know, whether you want to deem that a world war or not, which I agree, is that we're in this stage of kind of like internal both, but We are the focus, if not always have been, of these wars or of the war now.
And I think that's what this is.
I mean, how do we not acknowledge the COVID-19 global response against us with things that we're now proving are hurting people that they now proven they know that?
We are the focus of this war, guys.
We are now under attack.
Human species feels like it's being targeted, you know?
The entire species.
That's what everybody has to understand.
The entire species is literally under attack.
But see, this is really hard for people to wrap their mind around.
So from an individual perspective, just recognize that your government is now aiming, even though we know the war on terror, the Patriot Act was always aimed at us.
They may not want to hear that.
Today, it's on the surface.
The war on domestic terror, right?
The internal discussion.
We want to, you know, actually, here's one more thing.
And then I probably don't have to break off.
I've got this meeting soon.
This is something that I just talked about.
And you might want to talk about this if you haven't seen it.
It's a really important discussion about the connective point between wearables and implantables or that step in general.
Sure.
I just lost where the window was.
Hold on.
Here we go.
So this one is from here we go.
There you go, loading.
Though this one is from Vice.
It says, scientists control human DNA with electricity and leap forward.
Connective Point Discussion00:02:50
So you reports.
And the main point here, it says scientists have demonstrated that human genes can be controlled with electricity, which is not that new, actually, but it says a breakthrough that could pave the way toward wearable devices that program genes to perform medical interventions.
So this is not like, you know, I mean, we could talk about some kind of a device that actually performs kinetic surgery internally.
That's crazy.
But what we're really talking about is the ability to turn your, as I've played before, your body and your cells into drug factories, to turn the ability to actually create these genetic sequences internally, like a train, like they just did, your body to produce the spike protein, as if that's helpful.
Because clearly that worked out, didn't it?
It's just this scary, right?
And so this is where it goes.
And so this all this big overlap into this like internal, as Whitney Webb coined the term, your body is the new battlefield.
That's where we are, guys.
That's scary.
But remember, in my opinion, I think we're, you know, I think the reason it's getting so terrible is because we are waking up more than ever.
People are seeing these things.
They're challenging narratives.
Everything seems to be collapsing.
And maybe that's by design, but let's take advantage of that awakening.
And as also Derek points out, you know, the greater reset.
There are other paths forward.
And I think we have the ability to change that.
So let's not focus on the negative, you know, as much as it's pretty dark.
It is pretty dark, but you are shining light on that darkness over at thelastamericanvagabond.com.
And you're a very, very busy man.
You're maybe as, if not more prolific than even myself, putting out several hours of content a day.
Tell people where they can find your stuff, Ryan.
Oh, well, thelastamericanvagabond.com.
I know what you just set up there.
That's the best site to check out all of our stuff, all of our links and ways to donate and support us, which we do need because we're not only just trying to expand and bring on new people, hire new editors.
I talked about it somebody on the last show that I've talked with.
And that's important.
But in general, just to keep up what we're already doing.
Because as Jason knows well, as your audience knows well, we're under attack.
And every moment there are things going away.
There are new, to the point where I don't even bring it up every time anymore.
It's just more financial manipulation where these things disappear.
And I made this point before about Patreon and PayPal.
And I mean, all these different things.
If you add it up, it's like $10,000, $20,000 we'd make in a month right now, plus, if that wasn't gone.
And now we're, right now, what we're doing is trying to get enough money to kind of just maintain our current output because of how much we're being suppressed and attacked.
But it's never going to go away.
So we're going to keep doing this no matter what.
But the website's the best place to do that.
Check it out and support us and support what Jason's doing as well.
Well, Ryan, thank you so much.
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