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Sept. 17, 2023 - Info Warrior - Jason Bermas

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Alison Morrow Left TV News!!! Here's Why

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	Hey everybody, Jason Bermas here, and this one's going to be a fun one.
	It's been a while on any of my programs that I've had my next guest on, so we have a lot of catching up to do.
	She is a former member of that mainstream media we talk about so much, more localized.
	But a few years ago, Alison Morrow decided to leave her job in television news and go fully independent.
	And the world of independent media has been a bitter place since, I gotta tell you.
	I really do enjoy the stuff that you do.
	I don't catch all of it, obviously.
	But just recently, you interviewed Jacob Chansley, better known as the QAnon shaman.
	I like to call him the muffin man.
	This was a guy that was stopping people from taking muffins from the cafeteria within the Capitol.
	I've got to watch that conversation.
	You also are able to talk about some topics I still can't talk about on YouTube.
	You can follow her on Twitter at AllisonMorrowTV or you can do the same over here at Allison Morrow with 111,000 subscribers.
	I've got to ask you, did they send you the plaque?
	I still haven't opened it.
	I got it a year and a half ago, and it's still in the box.
	Hey, that's better than me.
	I can't get there. I lose subscribers.
	Jason, it's not going to be long before I'm back under 100,000 subscribers.
	And just a heads up for your audience, I do have two young children, so they're my producers, and you probably hear them in the background right now.
	They contribute more smell-o-vision, if you will, than informative content.
	But anyway, they're cute.
	And it's been amazing, honestly, to be home with the kids and also just get to pop on the internet every day and just talk to people about stuff.
	Anyway, back to the original subject.
	Yes, originally when I got on YouTube, I... I skyrocketed to 100,000 subscribers and I was gaining and gaining.
	Something happened over the last year and I'm just going all the way back down.
	And I don't think it'll be long.
	I'll guess by the end of this year at this current rate, by the end of this year, I will be very close to going back under 100,000.
	And I make no money on it.
	The only reason I keep it open still is because...
	It takes no extra real effort on my part.
	I can stream there while streaming on the other platforms.
	And it still is, I think, kind of a bridge to the other side for people who are just in the process like I was five years ago and all I did was listen to YouTube.
	I didn't even know there was other stuff out there.
	So I still use it as a bridge, but frankly, I don't think I get very many new viewers anyway.
	So... I guess maybe there's some kind of abusive relationship hope or something I have with them.
	Stockholm Syndrome or something.
	Same thing here. Same thing here.
	I think you're right, though.
	It is a bridge, right? I've seen the same thing happen where, as the average video I used to put out on YouTube, even with the censorship, somewhere in the 3,000 to 5,000 range, and a chance...
	To, you know, go up.
	At the same time, I'd still get, you know, 100 to 150, sometimes 200 subscribers a month gain.
	If I went on a show like yours, I'd almost be guaranteed another 100 to 300.
	Nope. Doesn't matter what shows I do.
	I can go on the most popular show like a Timcast.
	I won't get 100 more subscribers.
	I'm somewhere right around where you are, 1 to 3,000 maybe.
	But I'm trying to move people over, right?
	And I only do an hour of my morning show on YouTube.
	The second hour is uncensored over at Rumble and Rockfin and directly over at Red Voice Media.
	I don't post a lot of my second show from AMP over there because AMP just discusses a lot of subjects such as the hate and lie shots and beyond, which...
	Mega News just keeps rolling out about, I warned everybody not to take it on your show.
	Warned everybody not to take it under any circumstance whatsoever.
	Got that one right.
	Doesn't matter. Guys like Jimmy Dore, they can get away with it.
	It's funny because I've actually developed a relationship with Kurt Metzger, who is Jimmy Dore's side host.
	And he just couldn't really, when I first met him, couldn't really comprehend that I'd really been frozen, that they'd taken my channel four times, and that they were taking down videos I'd done on Epstein and claiming cyberbullying, let alone the COVID stuff.
	And I'm like, and then I showed him how many times they did it.
	What? He couldn't believe it.
	He was like, well, what did you say about COVID? And I'm like, the same things that...
	Oh, come on. I swear to you.
	And I say the same things that Jimmy Dore is saying now, 18 months later, 24 months later, I wasn't allowed to say those things.
	I wasn't allowed to play those clips.
	You know, very often, one of the things...
	You should have worn that short skirt to that party, Jason.
	You did. I always deserve it, dude.
	I always deserve it, right? You gave YouTube a reason to come after you, man.
	Don't wear a short skirt next time at the party.
	But again, I make no money off it.
	I'm not under any kind of illusion.
	It's been three years of demonetization.
	I've never cleaned up my channel and reapplied.
	My good friend Pasta Jardula of the Convo Couch did that.
	What did he get? The same exact one-liner.
	You're harmful content.
	You focus on issues that are controversial and cause harm to others.
	Did you lose me? I didn't lose your voice, Allison.
	I lost... Hey, I'm going to try to find a new camera.
	Hang on. That's fine.
	No, no. No worries.
	You're fine. We'll sit here and we'll talk about some of the other things that you've done as you do that.
	We'll go through here.
	And let's go to the past live streams.
	And by the way, they try to hide a lot of that.
	Even talking about LeBron James' son, DeMar Hamlin, I'd be an extra careful.
	But at the same time, I haven't fallen for a lot of the Johnny nonsense that's out there that people were claiming.
	DeMar Hamlin? There we go.
	There's the other camera. Perfect.
	I'm on my laptop camera now.
	Sorry. I hope everybody didn't get used to that really nice camera view.
	Sorry. I don't know.
	We're testing out some new stuff because we moved to Florida.
	My studio's not set up, so thank you for letting us test out some stuff on your show.
	Hey, no problem. I want to talk about that move, too, because we're now three years plus, three years and really four months, you could say, since the initial...
	COVID-1984 kickoff of two weeks to slow the spread, of we're going to lock things down, of you can't go to work, and that quickly morphed into you've got to take the shot, and it's not just one shot, it's two shots, three shots, four shots, five.
	A lot of people didn't wise up until booster time.
	Some people still haven't wised up since booster time, but you mobilized.
	Talk about that. I'm looking up this song that I just heard on the radio.
	There's a shot song that made me think of what you were just...
	It's like one shot. It's Tequila?
	Oh, that's what it is. It's Tequila by...
	I'm looking it up right now just because...
	Hang on. I want everybody to go listen to it and tell me that it doesn't sound like what Jason just said.
	It's a female singer, but I can't remember who it was.
	And she's like, one shot, two shot, three shot, four.
	And it just reminded me, anyway, you should go check that out, Jason, because it totally reminded me of what you were saying.
	And I'm trying to find you again.
	Okay, here you are. What was the question again?
	The question was, at what point during the nightmare did you say, okay, we really do need to relocate.
	We need to change our life up.
	You chose Florida as a state.
	I know that you've just recently moved there and settled in.
	But when was the decision made and why?
	Hmm. Well, I would say we had been planning to leave Washington State for a while.
	Mm-hmm. When you did the intro about me, you said that I quit mainstream media and went independent.
	What happened in between that is that I took a job shooting videos about wildfire for the Washington State Department of Natural Resources.
	And at the same time, on my own time, they knew I had a podcast.
	I was doing my podcast, okay?
	They hired me because they liked that I had social media following.
	I had been in television news.
	They wanted me to continue all that.
	In fact, they wanted me to promote them, you know, on my podcast.
	I learned very quickly after taking an ethics class that when you work in the government, you're not allowed to take money on your off hours by using your title or your position.
	So I was very wary of ever talking about them because I was like, I don't think they've ever had someone like me who makes money, has a podcast that's monetized, and I don't want to be the guinea pig who gets fired over this ethics.
	So I never talked about that. I kept them very separate.
	Fast forward on my podcast, which originally I was doing stuff like Airstream renovation and non-toxic living, and then COVID rolls around, and so I was noticing the loss of civil liberties and driven in large part by the coverage of my old industry of TV news, where we don't really know what we're talking about, and you're taking our Information and making these life-altering decisions.
	I felt very uncomfortable with that and thought I could offer some perspective on what it's like being in TV news.
	And then that led me down the road of censorship and interviewing the people that get defamed by mainstream media and have three soundbites or three quotes.
	And then that's like their whole entire life is just composed in this one soundbite as if that's a fair...
	That's a fair trial for what they're trying to tell the public.
	And so I invited these people on just to hear what they had to say, like kind of, I think for my own personal edification, not trying to prove anything, really just trying to learn.
	Anyway, one of those videos was removed by YouTube.
	It was a very non-controversial, in my opinion, video.
	It was with Dr. Aaron Cariotti, who was suing the University of California over natural immunity and not having to take the vaccine.
	And Kerry Hardy is excellent.
	I interviewed him for AMP and on his book, he's very, very aware of not only the authoritarian aspect, but the biomedical transhumanist angle of all of this and where they're pushing society.
	Very intelligent guy.
	He is a really interesting guy to talk to, and I think what's interesting, since you brought that up, I want you to talk a little bit more about that, because I didn't ever ask him about transhumanism, so I should do that next time he's on.
	But one thing that I thought was, when he came on, that was the first time, when our video was removed, that was the first time he had ever had At least that's what he told me.
	He'd ever had an interview just taken off the internet.
	And he was kind of like what you described earlier.
	Like, Jimmy Dore's sidekick, thinking that, you know, you deserved it or something.
	Like, it just wasn't really on his radar.
	He wasn't thinking that...
	He was, I think, just assuming that this narrative that, like, if you get booted off YouTube, it's because you're a total nutjob.
	He, you know, he believed that, I think.
	Or at least he just wasn't questioning who was getting removed until it happened to him.
	And our interview was taken down.
	So I go to Twitter, because that's the only way to get back onto YouTube, is you ask your friends to retweet, retweet, retweet, retweet.
	And I told people that, too.
	That was another thing I talked to Kurt Metzger about.
	He didn't quite understand or grasp.
	But when I talk to people, I go, listen, the only reason I've got my channel back is because I was able to leverage my social media presence on another platform.
	And directly confront them there.
	And that's it. And like you said, it's all about your popularity because it really...
	My Burmese Brigade had to come to my side.
	Team Morrow had to come to your side.
	And that's really the only way that you can get out of this algorithmic judgment based on probably already being put in a subset or a watch list.
	Totally, yeah. And that is just such a crazy...
	That is such a crazy way to...
	Have information delivered to people like based on your number of followers or friends that you have with followers on a stupid social media account.
	That's the only way to have a voice in today's America.
	I mean, that's crazy, dude.
	So long story short, my bosses at DNR saw That tweet.
	And they were like, what's Allison up to?
	So they went to my channel and they saw like Cariotti and all these other doctors that and they said I was undermining their vaccine mandate.
	And in order to maintain my employment with the Department of Natural Resources in Washington, I had to stop doing any interviews of that nature.
	So I refused, and they fired me.
	Anyway, interestingly enough, my old boss is now running for governor in Washington.
	She's one of the front-running Democrat governors, so I knew that was going to come for her down the road.
	But that did launch me then into full-time independent podcasting.
	It wasn't necessarily something I was planning to do at the time, but...
	It kind of chose me, I guess, at that point.
	Then it was like, there's no turning back, you know, once you've made that.
	And anyway, now I'm totally unemployable at this point, I'm sure.
	I mean, you know what I mean?
	But you're not. But you're not.
	Listen, let me say the same thing.
	Like, you know, I've always thought it would be completely and totally impossible for anybody, anybody to hire me.
	Yeah, I really thought I was going to be independent forever.
	Luckily, there was kind of a moment in Rockfin where I was able to make a decent amount of money, obviously moved, but I was looking at a new office.
	I actually just looked at one yesterday, hoping to make that It's coming to fruition around Christmas time this year, despite the fact that I'm no longer quote-unquote totally independent.
	But for instance, Red Voice Media, they licensed my show.
	They've never told me to say anything or what I couldn't say.
	They actually trust me, which is amazing.
	And that came from a phone call.
	And it was a phone call set up by my ex-girlfriend who worked at the Gateway Pundit who kept telling me, why aren't these people hiring me?
	Yeah, well, yeah, well, I mean, exactly, right?
	So there's somebody that's kind of in the, not so much the alternative media, but like the, I would say, the alternative kind of Christian conservative group, right?
	At least they direct their stuff.
	And I happen to end up being on the Reawaken America tour.
	Thank you, Mel Kay. You know, Mel Kay sets me up with Clay Clark.
	Clay Clark comes on my show, very pro-Trump.
	I stop him in his tracks.
	I'm like, well, I'm not so sure, right?
	We start having great conversations about Elon Musk and human brain interfaces.
	And by the second time he's on, he asked me to start speaking on that tour.
	So from that, I get this once a week gig with Red Voice Media.
	The guy who runs it, Ray Dietrich.
	Great guy. Also happens to be an MMA fan.
	Another one of my niches.
	Yeah, I tell him about Conor McGregor being a brutal, violent, serial rapist.
	He rapes again.
	Yeah. Only gives my credibility more.
	And so it becomes like a daily show.
	At the same time, because of my Reawaken America stuff, I start being the guest host on another show.
	They're paying me for this gig.
	They're paying me as a weekly contributor.
	And then all of a sudden they're like, we really like what you do.
	We like that you're kind of on either side of the aisle.
	And they give me a show. And then now I'm...
	I'm in two deep shows.
	You know, some people have been talking to me.
	You're the Anderson Cooper of alternative media now.
	Well, I am going that gray.
	We are getting there. I'm not totally white.
	How old are you, Jason? Just turned 44 on Monday, Allison.
	Okay. Oh, my husband just turned 42 yesterday.
	Yeah, I'll be on the wrong side of 45 real soon.
	It's coming too fast, dude.
	50 is way too close for my comfort.
	Way too close. I'll blink and I'll be there.
	But you've got kids. I still don't.
	I'm still trying out there.
	But I've definitely, you know...
	Your parts work a lot longer.
	Your parts work a lot longer, Jason.
	I mean, my nieces are growing up so quick.
	And I'm still very much a part of their lives.
	You know, my one niece here in Iowa, you're allowed to get your license at 14.
	So she just got her permit.
	She also got her first job.
	So I'm taking her to her job.
	She's learning how to drive.
	They're growing up super quick. The other one's in sports.
	Very busy. But we're in a place, in my opinion, that's why we moved here, where if something does happen again, hopefully we're not going to feel the repercussions like I did in New York.
	You know, I was just in New York two weeks ago.
	It's finally starting to normalize a lot, but some people are just still captured.
	I'm sure you see it too, even in Florida.
	Some people are just still captured, even here in Iowa.
	When I see... Go ahead, talk about it.
	I'll finish what I was saying later.
	Yeah, I'm just saying it's hard for me when I'm out on a dog walk.
	And I see an 80-year-old woman in her workout gear going like this alone in 97-degree weather with a double mask on still.
	That's nuts. It's crazy.
	You know, I want to stop that one.
	You know, I saw it two days ago.
	Maybe she's masking because of all the glyphosate.
	Are they spraying your corn out there with tons of glyphosate?
	Everybody talks about the corn.
	I'm into Quad Cities.
	We're more worried about the PFAs and the water.
	The Quad Cities is actually the number two place, apparently, in the country that has the worst PFA levels.
	Oh, really? Not great.
	This is probably the biggest city area, even though I don't consider it a city, I'm in the suburbs, that I've ever lived in.
	Ever. You know, there's a half a million people here.
	To give you an example, like before the COVID nightmare, I was ready to buck up $350 for one ticket to go see Tool.
	And I would have had to drive out to the Mohegan Sun because I wasn't going to go to the New York shows because they were just so damn expensive.
	They were even more than $350.
	Here, kind of two things happened.
	I live on the border of Illinois, which is still very much beholden to Chicago, New York City type politics.
	And on that side was the arena.
	It's now the Vibrant Center. It was the TaxSlayer Center.
	So they were trying at that point when they came to pull the vaccine mandate nonsense and the vaccine passport nonsense.
	A week out, Tool had sold almost no tickets.
	And they're like, alright, we're not going to come unless you take that restriction away.
	Again, dollars talk.
	So then I was able to go.
	I was able to take my UFC legend buddy, Pat Miletic.
	$40 a ticket.
	No ticket master fees because I could literally drive there three minutes away.
	$80 for two guys to go see it.
	So for here...
	Everything's a little bit less money.
	People are more understanding.
	They're more willing to stand up.
	And even on the other side, there's a lot of unhappy Illinois residents, especially when it comes to the new catch and release rule and them going after the Second Amendment.
	I'm sure that may be the reason that you chose.
	I mean, being in Washington State, you know, that's a pretty free place.
	But Florida certainly got some really good press.
	Not a very free place.
	Tell us. No. Okay.
	Well, the reason I was telling you about the whole DNR debacle is because when I was no longer employed in the state, and I was like, okay, we can get, you know, we can get out of here.
	And so we knew we wanted to get out, and here are the reasons why.
	Mm-hmm. Number one at the time, yes, guns was probably an issue.
	I mean, they're taking...
	I don't know if my husband's right there.
	I can't remember exactly what it is.
	You can't buy long guns now anymore or certain size magazines anymore.
	And it's just...
	Washington State is one of those places where, kind of like New York, if you defend yourself, you better be...
	It's really articulate about why you made the decision you made.
	No one's going to let you get away with like, oh, well, he broke into my house.
	That's not good enough in Washington.
	You know what I mean? It has to be like, he broke into my house.
	He had a knife to my throat.
	He told me 17 times he was going to kill me.
	He was stomping on my face.
	He also shot my foot off.
	And then maybe you'll have a chance of it being self-defense.
	I mean, it's just one of those places where property rights...
	That includes also, not to say kids are your property, but kind of like in that sense,
	the state thinks it also is the best option for parenting and it owns your kids too.
	The latest thing now is they've redefined child abuse basically as if you don't take
	your kid to gender affirming care, get them surgery if they want it, then the state, if
	the kid runs away or tells their teacher, I want another place to live, I don't want
	to go home, then they can just confiscate your kid and they don't have to tell you where
	And then they can take your kid and do all the medical procedures and just send you the bill and that's it.
	I mean, you totally have no parental rights.
	I mean, I think We were really hoping to get closer to family anyway.
	My parents are here in Florida.
	I grew up here, so a lot of my friends are here from childhood, still live here.
	And we wanted a little bit more support system.
	It helped that there's, I think, I don't know if Florida is going to eventually trend in that direction, but we're behind Washington State anyway on some of those trends I just mentioned, guns and parental rights.
	And then also, yes, COVID was a major thing.
	However, when we lived on the eastern side of Washington, I was a reporter originally in Seattle, so that was a very different experience living on the eastern side near Idaho.
	Washington often has petitions going around to sign if you want to secede from the state if you live on the eastern side.
	That happens every year.
	People want to try to turn eastern Washington into its own state so that they don't have to be grouped with the Seattle-Western Washington-based voting bloc.
	But when you lived out in Eastern Washington, there were so few people who were willing to go along with the governor and Seattle that you almost felt like you were in Idaho.
	But, you know, it just got to the point where, like, It was going to get to the point where you couldn't just not comply anymore.
	Not wearing a mask at Costco is one thing.
	The state coming for your kid, that's totally different.
	I don't think it takes too much of a stretch of the imagination to see the time when If they can define child abuse this way now, what happens if you don't choose certain medical treatments for your kids?
	What if you don't do the vaccines?
	What if you don't do all the vaccines?
	What if you don't do their particular vaccine?
	What else?
	My kids drink raw milk.
	Is that going to be illegal?
	I can't tell you how many times I had doctors want to read me the riot act over the fact that We give our kids raw milk.
	So there's just all these things that I think if you're living in a state where property rights or the idea of an individual who has rights over their life, If that's being encroached upon, you may think, well, no, I'll just go to court or I'll shoot that guy if he tries to kill me or whatever.
	It's like, no, you won't.
	You will lose.
	And just because somebody is attacking you now, that doesn't even mean you have the right to kill them anymore.
	Our judicial system is a total mess.
	So you live in an area where that's the case.
	Man, you cannot assume that your life is not going to be completely turned upside down.
	I mean, you could just be like, you're not looking for any trouble.
	You're not like me out on the internet talking about all this crazy stuff.
	You're just doing your own thing.
	You're driving down the road. Somebody comes up and says, you know, this is not a scenario that would be too far stretch.
	You're down in downtown Spokane or downtown Seattle and somebody puts a gun to your window and you shoot them.
	I mean, is it too far a stretch of imagination to think that there would be like, you know, you would be in the media as like shooting somebody who didn't shoot you and, you know, what if it turns into a race thing and now all of a sudden you're going to jail for manslaughter?
	You know, even though why is that person out?
	That person probably been in jail 16 times and shouldn't even be out yet, you know?
	I mean, so, but they don't care.
	So anyway, it's just not a place for, it's not a place, it's not turning in the direction of being able to You don't have any constitutional rights over your property, including your own children.
	And it's just crazy. And so, like, whether, you know, the winters were just really long and family and friends, plus the fact that we just didn't want to be serfs to the government, that brought us to Florida.
	So here we are. Well, let me say this about Florida.
	At least, and this is probably the biggest appeal of DeSantis, they have...
	Pretty much put the line in the sand on your kids.
	And I want to talk about that because it is so important.
	We live in this weirdly warped society and New York State is amongst the worst.
	Again, beholden to New York City can absolutely happen to your children.
	Where... You're now being told, first of all, and it's the most bizarre thing ever, that your children can no longer be influenced, especially about what they might like sexually.
	That's absolutely 100% provably incorrect.
	You can go just through Renaissance-type paintings or Ruben-esque-type paintings, and you can see that beauty then was a heavier-set woman, not so much the ideal there.
	Well, that was a societal norm.
	Right? And if we continue with those societal norms, it's what you see.
	When I was growing up as a kid, we were talking about it, 44 years old, you know, being a cop or a cowboy or a fireman or an astronaut, that was all being promoted through toys and entertainment.
	And that was like the prevailing thing that you would raise your, that's what I want to be when I grow up.
	So there was influence there.
	We could always talk about what fads were.
	VH1 probably still wouldn't exist if you didn't have those fads and hey that's so 80s and hey that's so 90s and you've got your little wrist bracelet and your jam pants and your skids.
	All that is through quote-unquote influence.
	And then we live in a time where we refer to people who are famous from the internet as social media influencers.
	Right, right. That's a good point, yeah.
	But they can't influence your kid, but the ones that we're promoting are often drag queens or transsexuals that we want to promote to your children that has no influence over.
	So there's a multitude of things, I think, that are going on.
	Number one, the baseline is...
	To say that your child now at a very young age, between 6 and 8, when they are extremely influential, when, in my opinion, they have no sexual identity because they have not gone through puberty.
	You know, I was a little bit, I mean, I wouldn't say I was a super late bloomer, but when I was 10 years old and I was still not talking about going to kiss girls, my dad was a little concerned.
	I'm not going to lie. You know, he brought it up a few times.
	It took me until about 12, 13 before I really got interested in girls.
	I think my first girlfriend was like at 12 or whatever, but it was a slow crawl.
	It wasn't like I was Don Juan and getting ready to go out on dates all the time.
	Slow crawl, which it should be for most of us.
	So now again we have a society...
	Where, you know, it used to be 18 where most things, and to me, I think that, you know, if you can go overseas and be put in a situation where you've got to shoot a brown person that doesn't even speak your language, you should probably have domain over yourself and what you want to do in your life.
	So the fact that now smoking cigarettes isn't 18 anymore and it's 21, and alcohol...
	Has been 21 forever?
	We're still going to allow kids...
	Forget about the alcohol and the cigarettes.
	No. Hormone blockers.
	They're not that. They're totally something that changes your entire biology and is non-reversible.
	Or surgery, which even takes it a step further with zero parental consent.
	You can't get a tattoo before you're 18.
	Yeah. Without parental consent.
	So number one, it's the state coming in and saying, we have power over your children, and the nuclear family is not that important.
	But then I think it is also a step in the direction of this.
	This is Unzipped Jeans by Martine Rothblatt in 1997.
	I mean, let me see if I can find this just really creepy passage for you.
	Well, while you're looking for it, I was thinking, too, while you were talking...
	What about, like, you know, we would like to homeschool, and I think, because you're talking about the influence and how kids are influenced, and so one of the things we'd like to do is homeschool our kids.
	But if you're living in a place where the state, again, I've seen these headlines, like, psychiatrists concerned about homeschool trend because now kids aren't going to be able to report their abuse to their teacher.
	They're going to be stuck at home with their parents who are abusing them, and how is anyone going to know?
	So it's like that.
	I mean, so say you're like us and you recognize the influence that culture is having on our kids and you're like, well, you know, not to say we're trying to raise them in some kind of bomb shelter or anything, but we would like to, you know, we're like, you know, it's cheaper and, you know, we think we can do a good job at it and we think that homeschool co-ops are a great way to go.
	But I guarantee you in states like Washington, They're going to figure out a way, licensing or something, to insert themselves into that.
	And it's going to just turn into a whole other way of controlling people.
	So anyway, continue. I just wanted to mention...
	No, I totally and completely agree with you.
	I think that that is a hurdle for them, especially when more and more parents want their children out and more and more parents are showing up to school board meetings.
	And that's why you saw the DOJ... Weaponized against those parents and those parents categorized in many cases as quote-unquote domestic terrorists, which I've been warning about for a couple decades at this point.
	That's what Homeland Security was really set up for.
	So the book I have here is by Martine Rothblatt.
	I think that we've discussed Martine, who used to be Martin before.
	Martin is also the author of From Transgender to Transhuman in 2012, but all the way back in the 90s.
	Shortly after the transition, this book was put out.
	Let me read this right here.
	So very interesting stuff.
	How great of that Chinese transsexual company to really think about their children.
	Wow. The portion of the gene sequence that turns on male sexual characteristics is added to a sperm carrying only an X chromosome.
	The resultant child has both male and female reproductive tracts.
	Now, what's really interesting about this is it asked the question very early on, as in the beginning, on, well, is eugenics really that bad?
	And they posit that we're all kind of involved in eugenics anyway, and the fourth chapter is Social Eugenics, My Perfect Society, with sub-chapters, Positive Eugenics, Grow the Genome, Negative Eugenics, Gas the Genome, Medical Eugenics, Cure the Genome, and then chapter five is what they really want to call the positive eugenics, Transgenic Creationism.
	So, believe it or not, this transgender person has written about transgenics for over two decades as the positive eugenics, and the subtitle is, Taking Charge of Babymaking in the New Millennium.
	So, really, they want to cut you out as a parent altogether and license the idea of quote-unquote baby-making, and that is posited even further from transgender to transhumanism When in the opener it stated that marking down a baby as a boy or girl will be the same in the future as marking somebody down as white or black in South African apartheid, Allison. So you're a bigot.
	If you dare to say, oh my god, I have a son, mark it off.
	No, you don't. That's where they want to bring society.
	Right. Wow. Yeah, it doesn't take a whole lot of stretch of imagination to see that, that you would be considered an abusive parent if you said what you're having.
	I mean, we did a gender reveal, you know, as stupid as people may think those are, just because that would be fun to do on our YouTube channel.
	My husband shot balloons for our last child.
	The first one we waited until we had her.
	Yeah, we were getting some comments from people that, you know, this is, like, why not just wait and let the kid, you know, you hear that and you're like, what?
	So you can't even, like, have a party anymore and, like, a baby shower and say, and have, like, blue balloons or pink balloons or anything.
	And it's, like, not even that I even care about that stuff, but it's just, it's crazy how much other people do care about it as a sign of a backwards...
	Backwards parenting? No, you're a right-wing, white supremacist bigot in some people's eyes if you dare do that because everything is now quote-unquote white supremacy.
	That's the new angle.
	It's wrong to be white.
	It's funny for me. I'm tanning up pretty good this summer.
	I've been out in the sun. I'm walking the dog twice.
	Nobody really knows what I am.
	They come into it.
	A lot of people think I'm Hispanic.
	I'm not. But it's harder for them to give me that right-wing, white supremacist thing.
	And if I was white as a ghost, I would take as much offense to it.
	If I was a black person, I feel like I would take as much offense to it.
	Because it's really a tool to try to end the argument.
	Just like the Democrats, I couldn't believe it, tried to end the argument with RFK Jr.
	by talking about specific...
	Genotype bioweapons in white papers that you're a bigot and you're a racist.
	And you've said disgusting things about Jewish and Chinese people, which he didn't do.
	And then they voted in unison to silence him in Congress.
	Unprecedented, Allison.
	As you're talking about that, I was thinking back to this woman who was in the Spokane area back when I was a Seattle reporter in Washington.
	What was her name? And she was, like, the head of the NAACP, but she ended up, like, the whole public loo about it was that she was really white.
	Oh, yeah, no, the Deborah, what's her name?
	The race faker. She's got an OnlyFans.
	Hold on. I can't remember. Rachel Doziak.
	Yeah, Doziak.
	Doziak, Doziak, something, whatever, yeah.
	But at the time, and still, I kind of sit back and I'm thinking, like, well, what, I mean, really, what is the difference between her saying, I identify as black, And another person saying, I identify as a dude.
	I mean, can't you just identify as whatever you want?
	I mean, you know what I mean? What's the difference?
	She's just ahead of her time.
	Because that's the whole thing.
	Eventually, you will.
	But why is that so offensive? Why is that offensive to people?
	Because they're still stoking the religious divisions.
	Once they have more people...
	Hooked into this idea of the metaverse and non-binary and fluidity, then that's going to be off the table.
	But while they can still divide large-scale communities based on their skin color, they're going to use that every single damn time.
	I haven't watched the new one yet because it was just posted last night, but just look at what people said about Tucker Carlson talking to Ice Cube.
	I mean, first of all, nothing bizarre about it.
	I saw the Daily Mail's headline, bizarre interview with them riding.
	I'm like, what's bizarre about Ice Cube doing a piece with Tucker Carlson and riding through Compton and showing him Compton?
	What, there's never been ride-alongs?
	It's only okay when Don Lemon does it?
	Like, that's ridiculous. And quite frankly, I would say that Tucker Carlson and Ice Cube have way more in common than the vast majority of people that would interview Ice Cube just based on their career levels.
	In other words, top of their game.
	I mean, that's a guy that's been at the top of the rap game.
	At the top of movies.
	At the top of comedy and producing that sort of stuff.
	And then Tucker Carlson obviously a Leviathan at Fox News.
	And now on Twitter aka X. So to me there was nothing bizarre about it.
	Now what is bizarre to me is that people are hailing Twitter aka X. As the next big thing...
	X, I know. I paid for the blue checkmark because they took away Media Studio and I can't stream to it anymore.
	So I have to post my videos after the fact.
	I did it begrudgingly so.
	But I also...
	I didn't really buy into the fact that I would be unshadowbanned.
	I'm not. I can't get any traction on Twitter.
	I'm sure you have the same problem.
	And people act like, oh no, Elon's here.
	All the shadowbanning's gone.
	That's not real. Yeah, there's still something happening there.
	I don't use it as much as I probably should.
	I just applied for the blue checkmark.
	I had a blue checkmark back in the day when I was in TV news.
	Our newsrooms used to write to the social media platforms and they'd get all of us sort of batch verified.
	And then when I I changed my name on Twitter when I quit because I used to be Allison Morrow K5 because I worked for King 5.
	I changed it to TV, which was my original name anyway.
	I used to be Allison Morrow TV, but then King asked me to make a K5 for branding, so I changed it and then I got my checkmark anyway.
	I did TV and I lost my checkmark and I haven't had it since then.
	And then the other day, I'm like, I guess I should do this if I'm going to...
	Because I don't stream on it yet, but I've been thinking about doing it.
	But I don't like it either.
	I don't think Whitney Webb has a blue checkmark, does she?
	It's a good question, but I'm not sure if she had one and now didn't buy one.
	I bought one begrudgingly, again, because now I can post videos that are more than two minutes.
	And I wouldn't have even done it, again, if my live stream...
	Some people are still able to live stream through StreamYard as a third party.
	Maybe it's just a URL because I actually do broadcast to it so I have the recording after the fact because I only record in 720p there.
	But it's rapidly becoming something else.
	Now, I think it's great because it's how I've been able to communicate with people like you.
	It's how I ended up out in Iowa, how I communicated with Pat Miletic when I was on the road.
	And a lot of great relationships have come through that.
	But I think that it's now being used as a Trojan horse.
	I want to see, you know, you asked me privately, I didn't answer whether or not I thought it was going to be a viable economic platform.
	I don't know that it is going to be for creators like you and I. Already, I've seen like...
	They give you the layout once you pay for it that you can get subscribers and we're going to run ads and we're going to do all these things.
	And I think to myself, well, that's all well and good, but if the same shadow bands are here and you have the same people inside that used to work for the Defense Department and used to work for the FBI, nothing's really changed.
	So I don't know that it's going to be a viable economic platform.
	Instead, I look at it just like I look at YouTube to bring people over Do the alternatives, communicate when I can, and use it as a tool to, just again, try to connect with others and corral people.
	You know, basically where my message is unfiltered, uncensored, and I feel like I'm not being shadowbanned.
	Yeah, totally, yeah.
	Yeah, I just checked. So Whitney does not have a blue checkmark, and my guess is because she's not paying for it because she just tweeted something about how Twitter is like part of the whole...
	He's talking about X becoming half of the financial institutions and people wonder, well, how can that happen?
	Are you aware of WorldCoin?
	No. Sounds scary.
	Wait till you see how scary it is, Allison.
	So, I'm at lunch on Monday.
	And shame on me for this, by the way.
	Shame on me for not being hooked in.
	I may have reported on the peripheral over the last couple years, but I certainly forgot about it.
	I thought I was getting pumped.
	So I show up to lunch at Hooters because that's what happens on my birthday apparently.
	And I'm supposed to just meet my one buddy.
	He loves to stir shit up.
	So he just invited a bunch of people.
	So I walk in and there's a bunch of people there.
	I'm like, okay. One of them happens to be a guy that made quite a considerable amount of money through Doge and other crypto coins.
	Has his own building where he was mining crypto.
	He had to shut a lot of it down with a big crypto crash a couple years ago.
	But he's still very much into it.
	So I ask him, you know, what's the coin that I should be investing in?
	First one, he says, is Doge, of course.
	He's got a goddamn Doge license plate.
	I'm like, I'd rather burn in hell than support the Musker Nuts and his agenda to take over the world with some meme coin.
	And he's like, well, how about WorldCoin?
	And I go, what's that?
	And he goes, and he's got kind of a look in his eye where I think that he's like joking with me.
	And like he's like busting on me for the stuff that I'm saying.
	He goes, well, WorldCoin just launched today.
	And then he says it's from the CEO of ChatGPT, Sam Altman.
	Okay, so that kind of perks my ears up.
	But then he says that they have a device called the Orb.
	And by scanning people's retina with the orb, which you have to order for thousands of dollars, it then verifies that person as a human being and it starts giving them free tokens as it verifies them as a human.
	And the orb is like something out of a cross between Phantasm and heavy metals, the Loch Nahr.
	I'm calling it the Loch Nahr because it's all real.
	And it's incorporated in the universal basic income system.
	Oh, really? Yes.
	In fact, let's show that.
	Let's show you right now. This is Sam Altman introducing WorldCoin here.
	And this is their whole crescendo.
	More than three years ago, we founded WorldCoin with the ambition of creating
	a new identity and financial network owned by everyone.
	So it's stakeholder capitalism.
	The rollout begins today on my birthday.
	If successful, we believe WorldCoin could drastically increase economic opportunity,
	scale a reliable solution for distinguishing humans from AI online while preserving privacy, yucca yucca,
	enable global democratic processes.
	So in other words, biometrics in the voting game and eventually show a potential path to AI funded UBI.
	So let me just show you what the orb looks like here.
	That is the orb.
	And it is a real thing.
	It's physical. I couldn't believe it, Allison.
	And people are literally lined up around the block to give up their biometrics voluntarily.
	And I watched this Asian man do it yesterday.
	I feel like we should bring that up.
	Where is he? He's just so damn happy.
	And that's nothing compared to Dish Brain, by the way.
	Which we should also talk about in a minute.
	Let me see if I can find it.
	There's Cube, there's Biden with, let's see, Dish Brain, Transhumanist in Action, Ice Cube, Orb Slavery lineup.
	So this is just the lineup for the Slavery Orb.
	This isn't as good as like the Asian guy that actually gets it done and looks like he's going to cry because a machine told him he was human.
	Let's bring this in. So we've blocked Allison, and you're watching, hopefully Allison, this absolutely crazy long line.
	Of people lining up to volunteer their digital biometrics because it's a great idea.
	And there's obviously a financial incentive for those that have the orb and are collecting people's biometric data.
	Now, supposedly, it's still not legal and operational in the United States for whatever reason.
	But at the same time, in their advertisement...
	They have LA listed as a city.
	So, you know, I caught that part.
	I mean, it was pretty wild. Now, Dish Brain...
	Okay, is biomimetics.
	So it is microchips that are basically inbuilt with human brain tissue.
	And that is yet another part of this transhumanist agenda that people aren't talking about that's really right around the corner.
	In fact, let's just listen to Annie Jacobson talk about synthetic biology really quickly.
	In an interview where she's talking about AI. By the way, her new book, have you seen the stack on that?
	So she's posting pictures of a book that's probably from the table right here up to my head, about this big, and having people guess what it is.
	Well, I've guessed correctly. It's transhumanism.
	I get a like on every tweet on it.
	And here's Annie talking about synthetic biology.
	New domain with synthetic biology, with CRISPR, with gain-of-function research.
	We saw a bit of it in COVID. And these are issues that absolutely must be discussed transparently.
	On a national level.
	Because people, you know, people are worried about AI. Wait till they find out what synthetic biology can do.
	We survive that so we can survive.
	But to answer your question, synthetic biology is the ability that scientists now have to re-engineer pathogens.
	Period. Full stop.
	Right? And that means, imagine any horrible But it's not going to stop any of them.
	Here's Dish Brain.
	Real human cortical neurons grow across a silicon chip.
	They act like wires in an ordinary computer chip, communicating with each other and other components.
	It's sort of like a mini-brain, and it was already trained to play the video game POP. It didn't play very well, but it learned incredibly efficiently compared with the digital AI. Hybrid chips could be a game changer for AI and medicine.
	They could be used for testing new drugs or researching diseases or power the next generation of hybrid AIs.
	Hybrid AIs, which are really biomimetics and silicon brain activity.
	And that's something that my boy Dennis Bushnell of NASA talked about again and again over the past decade.
	Here's transhumanism in action right here that I don't think people are ready for that is so Frankenstein-like.
	A lot of people were asking me if this clip is real.
	It's real.
	We are looking at OSCAR, the first human modular prototype that is able to live in various setups.
	What's going to happen is that I'm going to connect the brain to the heart module to activate the blood circulation.
	Now, the lung is going to start breathing.
	I can see both organs are now collaborating.
	I can add a kidney module.
	Bye.
	Thank you.
	So they're interconnected through the device, almost like a Lego.
	And let's put some limbs on it.
	They start actuating the organism to move.
	Now he's looking for the optimum temperature, which is 37 degrees.
	If I add another limb, Oscar will recognize it and benefit from the possibility.
	Not science fiction.
	Okay, that's crazy.
	Not science fiction.
	What we publicly know about today.
	We're setting up a system.
	Whether or not people adopt the Orb or WorldCoin or X, biometrics incorporated into the blockchain has been decided that is the future.
	I've talked about a UBI so much, not because I hate poor people, Allison, but because I don't want us all to become poor.
	A universal basic income is the road to ultimate slavery, and so many people in this country have already been groomed for that road because they are on subsistence living.
	They do depend on some kind of a government paycheck so that they can eat or get medical attention for their kids.
	That was at 40 plus percent a decade ago.
	I can only imagine if we were to take an honest audit of not only legal United States citizens, but people who are undocumented or whatever here as well on those subsidies.
	And in my opinion, unfortunately, it would only take the right kind of crisis for more people to adopt this.
	Tell me if this connection I'm making makes any sense.
	When I was in TV news, the union that I was forced to be a part of, SAG-AFTRA, you couldn't work in Seattle unless you became a part of the union.
	I don't know how they made that deal, but whatever.
	So you have to be in SAG-AFTRA to work in television news there.
	They had a rule about the baseline income you had to pay reporters, and that actually lowered the income the average income actually went down which i thought was interesting like i didn't for me i you know you had to still go in and negotiate your personal service contract so i really didn't quite understand why i was in a union because i was able to negotiate a higher salary because i'm just cutthroat man that's just the way it works in this household so I noticed that, however, they're coming in and saying, like, you have to pay everybody fairly, you have to pay this, whatever, that actually, as more and more people are coming in, With, you know, the new, like, company ownership and this, like, basic level that you had to pay, they were all getting the base income.
	They were actually making less money.
	Is that a weird connection?
	Does that have anything to do with it? It's not. So it's so funny you say that.
	Actually, I think it's going to air tonight.
	Well, people are going to be watching this over the weekend.
	But for you, Allison, if you'd like to see it.
	On my other show, on Making Sense of the Madness, I had Aaron Wythe.
	You should get him on the show. You'd actually like him.
	And basically, his crusade is against unions.
	Mostly government unions.
	I brought up the SAG union for the AI reason.
	I'll talk about that in a second.
	Now, he believes that the government unions are much more egregious than privatized unions, but he also acknowledges the fact that once a certain number of people join these things, they're obviously co-opted and corrupted, right?
	So they've already got this baseline level.
	Now, I'm happy that SAG and the Writers' Union are now striking because they're striking because of AI, generally.
	I mean, that's not the media narrative.
	But what they're asking for is not only chat GPT-style scripts, but the end of directors.
	And instead of directors, you're going to have AI project managers.
	So you'll still have a bunch of the people under the director, but that's going to be AI. And by the way, when you sign on and you sign on the dotted line, we own your likeness.
	We can use your likeness and not pay you for it for the sequels.
	So now you have a mega hit.
	You don't have much at the negotiation table anymore.
	Because you're already in the sequel.
	All right? And that's a big, big issue with me.
	Not only with the deepfake technology of videos, but now audio.
	I mean, you're really even talking about live time stuff very shortly, 5-10 years down the line.
	So I'm very much watching that.
	Unions in general, especially when you're talking about the teachers' union, look how destructive they can be.
	It's through the teachers' union that your kids were masked up, that they were made to not play with one another, that you were demonized as a parent if you came in.
	And it's through the teachers' union that this transgender agenda is pushing through.
	And we're all paying for it.
	That's the crazy thing, right?
	We're paying taxes that are promoting this because it's a government organization.
	So that guy...
	Really, really interesting.
	Somebody you should have on the show.
	You know, you should also have Nick Bryan on the show.
	We'll talk about that afterwards. I'm going to connect you with Nick because Nick has just started Epsteinjustice.org and he's kind of on a tour.
	But he's the author of The Franklin Scandal and he's the guy that got the Epstein Black Book published all those years ago through Gawker.
	Oh, wow. Yeah, so he would be a great guest for your show.
	And he does great work.
	But the point being with the actors thing, look...
	I'm not demonizing unions in the sense that, you know, I read Upton Sinclair's The Jungle, and there was a time that you obviously had to get together and get better rights for your workers.
	But now so much of that has been subverted so that it's not really a free market, right?
	And that's kind of the baseline for a lot of these people that are stepping in.
	Well, my union's telling me to do it, and I'm paying the dues.
	It must be fair. Yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck.
	Yeah, they protect their interests, which is survival.
	And so their survival, I think, is tied very directly to happiness of the corporations with how they're doing, at least in my industry it was.
	So they always took the TV... I don't want to say always.
	I hate always and never. Life's more complicated.
	But a lot of the instances I saw firsthand, they protected the company, not the individual.
	I saw the same thing with my agent, for instance.
	Agents want to get more people to the TV station.
	So when you're going into your negotiation or whatever, and the news director says, I'm not going to pay your client that kind of money because I've got to pay all these other people.
	Do you think she's gonna piss off the news director or piss off you?
	Right? Who brings her more money?
	He does. He brings the agent more money because he takes all the clients.
	And with the union, I just noticed that it certainly seemed to me that they would be very hesitant to go head-to-head with the corporation at the risk of their existence, whether that means being sued or whatever, on your behalf.
	So you really were paying union dues for, in my opinion, like No reason.
	Even though they would say, we have an attorney you can consult and we have this person for HR. It didn't matter.
	You were still on your own.
	So you're just on your own with less money in your pocket.
	Exactly. And not only on your own with less money in your pocket, but coming from less of a position of power because there's already all these other people that are set up against you.
	You know, that have this camaraderie now and, oh, look, this person's going to spoil it for the rest of us.
	How dare they? Exactly.
	And especially now that the unions are all about DEI and everything.
	I mean, you know, if any of your thoughts are...
	In direct conflict with the DEI stuff or whatever else is going on.
	It doesn't matter.
	The union is going to throw you under the bus so fast you won't know what hits you.
	We're coming in on an hour.
	I found this clip.
	This is, I think, a great way to end the show.
	So this is an excited young Asian man.
	Not that young. He's going bald.
	But so excited to be the first to have his iris scanned by the orb and receive his one WorldCoin token.
	Here we go. Now lift up and open your eyes.
	How creepy is that device?
	It is the creep show, man.
	Yeah, it is so...
	I'm just so glad that I live in the country and I don't see this stuff very often.
	I mean, why do they have to make it look like a crystal ball or something on a phantasm?
	Maybe they want it to look like an eyeball.
	Yes! Oh!
	Oh! Oh! He holds his chest!
	Oh, I'm so excited!
	Okay, verifying...
	Verifying humanity.
	Oh my god.
	Did you get it?
	Loading, loading.
	Yeah, it's loading like this.
	Verifying humanity.
	Just prove I'm a human.
	Oh my god, he just proved I'm a human.
	Oh my god.
	So here it comes.
	It's about to happen.
	Successful verification! Good job.
	I'm verified! I'm verified!
	Look at this guy.
	Wow. So now once a month, if he checks in with the app, and you can change, you can actually trade, I think it's WLD coin.
	On a lot of these decentralized networks, as long as he logs in every month, he gets his one WorldCoin, and then it's not just based on how many people you sign up through the orb, but how many people keep coming back for that WorldCoin that you're also rewarded as the orb master, Allison. Okay, so is the reward money?
	It's more WorldCoin.
	It's more UBI-based tokens.
	I don't think they get... But I could be wrong, because I don't know the ins and outs.
	I don't have money for an orb, or the kind of soulless candor that I would actually corral human beings in chattel and take their biometrics.
	I never do that. I'm just curious if that guy, when he's celebrating...
	Is he saying, I'm going to get rich?
	Is that what he's thinking in his head?
	He's just so happy that he's on the digital cusp that not only is he getting the one world...
	I mean, the guy who's scanning him is probably like, we're in it for the money.
	That guy is in it to be part of this digitized...
	I'm human! I'm being verified!
	So the big excuse is you're not a bot.
	And look, they use biometrics in a lot of these elections globally.
	Paso Jardula talked about the system in Brazil.
	That's why he believes Lula actually won and it was not stolen from Bolsonaro.
	He was there. They do an iris scan.
	It's a biometric scan there.
	And obviously, when they're talking about quote-unquote democratic processes, that's the next level.
	And Sam Altman, if you didn't know...
	In the week that he gave his testimony to Congress with Eric Schmidt on the other side, remember Sam Altman said, we might want to slow AI down.
	That's all bullshit. Nobody's slowing AI down.
	At the same time, Schmidt comes out there and he says, no, we can't slow it down.
	China's not going to slow it down.
	But they both agreed we need to regulate it.
	So it can't be open source.
	It's a slave grid for us.
	Oh well. They both go to Bilderberg 2023 this year in Lisbon, Portugal.
	By the way, if you didn't know, Joval Noah Harari looks like he crashed it.
	He just showed up in Lisbon, Portugal the weekend that Bilderberg was there wasn't on the list.
	But... They launched this coin within a couple months.
	That was in May. And then another big member of Bilderberg...
	Let me see if I can bring the story up.
	I think it's right here.
	No, that's Neon the Gnome.
	Where is it? Right here.
	Is this it? So...
	No, I don't have it yet.
	Basically, Axel Springer is a large European media group.
	And Dolph...
	What is his name? It's something Dolph.
	He's the one that interviewed Elon Musk, and Elon Musk told him that...
	Whatchamacallit was no...
	Well, they're working out a third to two-thirds of their staff for Axel Springer Media to become full AI. News is going to become full AI. Oh, yeah.
	We're waiting for that. I mean, I do a media show once a week with my buddy Bill, who used to be in TV News 2, and we were talking about, like, can we do a raffle for, like, viewers to put in, you know, who's going to be the first market to have an AI anchor or, you know, robot director or whatever.
	Yeah. I mean, 10 years ago or 12 years ago, they were already getting rid of, like, the folks who moved the cameras around in the studio and just programming the cameras so that you could just get shots without having to have, like, a floor director.
	And one of the problems, though, is that, like...
	The producers who were programming them are getting more and more overworked.
	They have less and less time to do anything, really, especially journalism.
	And so they would, like, program things in wrong.
	Or just there would be a snafu with a wiring or whatever.
	And so you have, like, the camera crossing, you know, in front of the anchor and then the other camera, or it would, like, run into the desk and, you know, all kinds of crazy stuff.
	But, yeah, it's just a matter of time before, you know, How do you even know if you're actually watching the real version of Chris Cuomo, wherever he is right now?
	Well, because he's hired by Law& Crimes' Dan Abrams in a rebranding.
	And I actually like Dan Abrams.
	I'm trying to think.
	The woman he hired, I actually like her too.
	She's been around for a while. But he also hired Bill O'Reilly.
	But, you know, I was there for that rebrand.
	I mean, he literally, the first week that he was on the new Dan Abrams network, he was talking like somebody on Fox News about the border.
	You know what I mean? They're just such phonies.
	Oh, Chris Cuomo. Oh, I played the...
	It was ridiculous. Like, if you had taken the same exact thing he said...
	And had Donald Trump say the same thing, you could have had him ripped apart on CNN that night.
	Like, that's how fake these people are.
	And that's why you rock. You're not fake, Alison Morrow.
	You give the real deal, the real opinions, you're a real human being.
	I am a real human being.
	You are. You don't need to verify.
	You don't need an orb to verify that you're real.
	I believe you. Jason says, I'm a real human.
	Jason says. Tell people where they can find your stuff, Alison.
	Oh, man. I tell people about Locals because I think right now that's the place where I'm probably the most active with getting story ideas, interview ideas, and people submitting questions.
	So I call it my editorial board, alisonmorrow.locals.com.
	Allison with one L, alisonmorrow.locals.com.
	And so if you are a supporter over there, which is five bucks a month, then what I do is post the day ahead for my interviews, and then I... Get questions from people directly for whoever it is.
	My supporters got to ask Jacob Chansley a question.
	I just learned that...
	Actually, this was confirmed by Roseanne when I was watching her podcast the other day.
	There's no such thing as QAnon.
	There's Q and Anon.
	I didn't even know that. My mind was blown.
	QAnon is just a broad term for insanity, in my opinion.
	Again, I... You know how I feel about it, but no, they're supposed to be...
	Like conspiracy. I mean, they've now made it into this blanket term, but the Anons were supposedly the white hats on the message boards that believed or were working with Q, this security clearance person.
	Oh, that's bullshit. Allison, if you don't know, did you see anything...
	Remember the meme case from about four months ago where they put a guy named, I believe it was Douglas Mackey, aka Ricky Vaughn, in jail for that supposed meme where it told you to text in your vote?
	No, I didn't see that.
	Someone's been in jail over a meme?
	So that's not why they went after him.
	That was the public face of it.
	Oh, okay. And that's why, that was what was in all the alternative media and the right-wing media.
	Oh, no. That was the QAnon network.
	That's why they went after him.
	They let one of the guys that I believe actually started the QAnon sense...
	Oh, really?
	Yes, it's unprecedented.
	So, just so you understand, an individual named Microchip, who...
	People tried to sell me on as some kind of Israeli Mossad double agent.
	Never bought into it.
	I had two individuals that I also believe were involved in the start of QAnon when it started in DEF CON. Defango, who's a notorious liar, but brought some of the receipts.
	And a guy named James Brower, who was very low level in one of the sectors of the Trump campaign.
	And basically...
	These guys with a guy named Microchip and Mackey and others We're proliferating the Pizzagate stuff and other things prior to the 2016 election, right?
	And they were the main bot army that actually got Trump elected.
	So there are no Russian bots.
	I want to make that extremely clear.
	In fact, Allison, I would encourage you to read this piece from 2017 by BuzzFeed.
	Never mind the Russians meet the bot king who helps Trump win Twitter.
	Again, this is in 2017.
	This is an interview with Microchip Where he tells you that there are no Russians, and it is all them.
	Which it is, okay? Let's see.
	All us.
	Read the direct quote. It's all us, not the Russians, Microchip said, and we're not going to stop.
	Okay? They actually admit in this, let me read this sentence for you.
	Indeed, in a national atmosphere charged by unproven accusations about a massive network of Russian social media influence, the story of how Microchip helped build the notorious pro-Trump Twitter network seems almost mundane.
	Less a technologically daunting intelligence operation than a clever patchworking of tools that Of course it was.
	It was this guy. So much so that in early 2019, when I got the interview with Defango and Brouwer, and they were trying to get me to believe that microchip was going to come on, but then he didn't.
	Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And the Israeli stuff.
	He'd already been recruited by the FBI. So in 2019, they find microchip.
	You can't be doing media articles and be that important in a track trace database society.
	They don't charge him initially.
	He just works with the feds.
	They end up charging him in 2021.
	You can find this out from the New York Times with unknown charges.
	We don't even know what they charged him with.
	And then... We're good to go.
	Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia and QAnon.
	And on the other end, they're actually arresting the network
	that made the difference on the web.
	Look into it, it's really interesting.
	I know you gotta go.
	Well, I wanted to say, I'm gonna start calling my dad Microchip
	because his name is Chip and he's a huge fan of your show.
	Well, I'm a huge fan of your dad for being a huge fan of the show.
	I love it. He was on...
	Oh, what were we talking about?
	Oh, yeah. Hurricane was supposed to hit because they live around on the beach.
	Hurricane, I think it was Ian...
	Last year was supposed to hit.
	And he was telling people, just wait till the last minute.
	You know, the total opposite of the mayor.
	Just wait till the last minute because it could turn, which it did.
	It was supposed to come right for his house and it turned to go down to Fort Myers.
	And if he had gone to visit his buddies in Fort Myers, he would have gotten there again.
	Anyway, I was taking, you know, chats from people and Someone asked, you know, what does Dr.
	Chip think about the weather, you know, modification and whatever.
	And, you know, people who changed the weather.
	And he's like, oh yeah, that's true.
	And I said, wait, you think they, Dad, you think they changed the weather?
	And he goes, Jason Burma says.
	Oh yeah, Jason Burma says.
	Well, I'll tell you what. You can find, and it's still out there, and I've been playing it a lot.
	But while I was at Infowars, Alex Jones actually found a guy named Ben Livingston.
	And he is the godfather of weaponized weather warfare.
	And all the way back in the 50s, he was literally flying into the middle of hurricanes and either putting them out or making them larger.
	And this was just one aspect of that program.
	He was in his 80s and he had one of those flip family books of Polaroids and pictures.
	And you can find that still on YouTube.
	You type in Ben Livingston.
	And when you find him and you find that out, you realize, wow, we've been lied to for so long.
	That's so crazy. I mean, look, that's an issue for another time.
	I'm going to DM you to connect you with Nick Bryant.
	Get Nick on. Keep kicking butt.
	Allison, thank you so much for your time.
	Thank you. Thank you all.

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