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Sept. 3, 2023 - Info Warrior - Jason Bermas
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A DeCarbonized Disaster And Freedom From The Agenda With Josh Reid And Paul Hutchinson | MSOM Ep. 817

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Fighting Climate Fires 00:08:26
Welcome to Making Sense of the Madness.
I am Jason Burmese and today we're going to talk decarbonizing the economy and bricks with Josh Reed.
And we also have the executive producer of Sound of Freedom, Paul Hutchinson, with us.
Buckle up and let's make sense of the madness.
Now, I do want to say this.
We have to fight these fires as hard in as many ways as we can.
And I'm glad that we have bolstered our firefighting apparatus and operations in the last year.
We've increased our appropriations over about $125 million in the last couple of years so we can have more firefighting assets, more air assets, more trucks, more personnel.
I'm glad we've done that.
But we have to recognize we need to continue that effort because the fact of the matter is there's a beast at our door, and that's the beast of climate change.
It seems like the whole world is on fire today.
Yellowknife Canada with over a thousand fires burning in Canada.
Maui with Lahaina burnt to the ground and now Spokane County and 35,000 acres in fire today in Washington state.
We have to bolster our assets, but we have to do something else.
When something's attacking you, we need to defend ourselves from it.
We need to defend ourselves from climate change.
We need to decarbonize our economy so these fires don't ravage us.
There's not enough fire trucks in the world to protect us if we don't stop climate change.
And I am proud of our state.
I just got back from Korea yesterday talking to the Korean community about how they're fighting climate change.
And I was able to be proud of our state that we are fighting climate change by reducing carbon pollution in our state.
So there's a lot to be proud of here in our state.
People pulling together.
Everybody's coming together.
We're fighting the basic source and we will continue to do so.
They're fighting the beast of climate change.
We need to decarbonize the economy.
What does that really mean?
Well, that means your standard of living absolutely plummets as the Build Back Better, I mean, infrastructure bill that they passed does nothing of the sort.
There's not enough fire trucks in all the world to fight climate change.
The decarbonization of the economy means what?
Less biological life and more control by the Malthusian monsters in the predator class at the top.
They are trying to crash real economies, and we really do have to protect ourselves.
At the same time, the dollar is being decimated.
The credit score of the United States is being downgraded to talk about that and much more is AMP News contributor Josh Reed.
What do you think, Josh?
How about an economy with no carbon?
Well, you know, Jason, this is where it gets really, really interesting.
We have entered into this precipice moment that a lot of us have been waiting for.
There's things moving so fast right now, we can't even explain it.
We know that August is typically a very hot month, and absolutely it has been with the fires throughout Maui, Oahu, through Washington state, Oregon, California, Colorado.
The list goes on all the way up to Alaska.
And I think everybody's understanding that these fires are not naturally oriented.
These are most likely man-made fires.
And when we start looking at everything's happening, and you just heard the governor just say it right there, is we have to defend ourselves against nature.
And see, if you go into it, and I know you have, when you start going into these globalists and their foundations and their philanthropies and the organizations that they bring about.
What they're trying to do is they're trying to put nature off limits to you and I, that nature is so dangerous that it's attacking us and that we as human beings are the ones who have caused this.
We have instigated it because of our carbon use and because of our fossil fuels and all this pollution we're putting out there.
And so to curb this, to stop the climate change and stop the madness, we have to risk ourselves.
We have to go out there and consolidate into these cities.
We have to give up nature.
We have to give up our land and that the elite know what's best for us.
And this is what is really coming down the road.
You know, in Europe this last year, the last two years, there has been a lot of changes through the European Union funded and proxied through the World Economic Forum to change how farmers actually farm, basically reducing their carbon emissions by limiting the amount of fertilizer they could use.
And by doing so, the farmers weren't able to actually produce as much food as they needed to to actually survive.
And when those farmers stood up and said, hey, government, this isn't going to work.
We don't want this.
They protested.
The governments went in there with eminent domain and took over their land and then give it to those big agro companies who the governments then feed with subsidies so that they can become profitable.
Well, we just heard a few weeks ago that the same thing, these same plans from John Kerry are coming to the United States of America.
They're going to start limiting the fertilizer use.
They're going to start limiting the carbon footprint of these farmers.
And when those farmers stand up and protest, they're going to give them the big aggro and big aggro is going to get subsidized.
And you know what they're going to produce?
They're not going to produce the livestock.
They're not going to produce the corn and the soy.
They're going to start producing insects because that is the next stage of this plan is to reduce the food supply globally by calling hundreds of thousands, if not millions of our livestock, pigs, chickens, cows, because those are the biggest threat to global warming because industrialization of the human population has caused this global warming and they got to protect nature.
Nature has become their new god of worship and humanity is destroying nature.
And so it reminds me of King Charles right now.
He has an organization of philanthropy he works with called Terra Carta Organization.
And their whole envisionment is that Gaia or nature or earth is their God and that we are destroying Gaia.
So humanity is the problem and that we have to regulate and manage ourselves to a large degree.
And this is what's prompted 15 Minute Cities.
And interestingly enough, there in Maui, that was prime real estate there, Luana, that they wanted to develop on that they've been trying to buy for 10 years.
And mysteriously, all that real estate of the native owned land happened to burn down, but everything else stayed intact.
All the other private owned land stayed intact.
And now the government says that, you know, so these developers don't go in there and buy this land up for cheap.
We're going to go in there, utilize eminent domain laws to take that land to protect the people, of course.
And, you know, Jason, we are in the beginnings of this massive storm that is about to hit the planet of this globalist agenda.
And it's only going to get worse as we move forth, September, October, November.
I was talking about this last week on Amp After Hours, which is my Tuesday night, 9.30 show on American Media Paris Group's Rumble channel.
The Trump card.
We thought Trump was going to make this announcement yesterday.
He came out.
You know, if you look at the significance of this, Trump comes out, says he's got all the information to exonerate him, which I claim is most likely the classified DNI report of election fraud that he received before December 20th, 2020, which probably has all the information that we know that Greg Phillips has collected as well because they had the COVID-19 tracing data that was under operation of the White House during that whole time during the election.
And so most likely they have that information.
Brics De-Dollarization Accelerates 00:02:55
Trump has a copy of it.
That's what they are looking for at Mar-a-Lago.
He was going to release that.
What did they do?
They panicked.
All of a sudden, we see Tropical Storm Hillary turn into a Cat 4 hurricane.
Donald Trump comes out and says, oh, well, guess what?
I'm not going to release it on Monday.
That Cat 4 hurricane then turns back into a tropical storm, and you have a 5.5 earthquake off the coast of LA.
Well, what does that mean?
But we saw very similar occurrences during other times where weather manipulation was at play.
We are seeing this war waging on right now on the planet.
And it's this silent war.
It's this quiet war where people think that these are natural phenomena that happen, but they're really actions and reactions from these large factions that are fighting for global power and supremacy.
Then you had the Durban summit that's going on today with the BRICS nations.
We see Saudi Arabia is there.
We see Indonesia is going to join.
We have the new application for Iran that's going to join the BRICS nations.
We know Mexico is trying to join the BRICS nations.
This is detrimental to the U.S. dollar, to de-dollarization.
It is going to speed it forth.
We have them potentially releasing the new global reserve currency for the BRICS nations today, tomorrow, or this week.
What does that mean?
That means over the course of the next six to 12 months, you're going to have massive de-dollarization as a lot of these BRICS nations and the acceptance of new BRICS nations come in and they start exchanging their imports and their exports through the new BRICS currency.
And they stop taking in U.S. imports of soy, of corn, and so forth, because what they're doing is the BRICS nations, and China has came out and said this, is this is why they're investing in the infrastructure within Northern Africa.
And this is why you're seeing all the turmoil in Northern Africa, because that is prime growing grounds for things like corn and soy and all these other basically foods, these staple foods that keep the planet going.
And China is seeking to outsource that, not through the United States, but through these other BRICS nations.
And this is why they're funding them and building this infrastructure.
So what does that mean?
Within five years, when that infrastructure is in place, U.S. exports are no longer needed by the majority of these countries, which means that they no longer have to keep the U.S. dollar on reserve and they no longer need to trade through the U.S. dollar.
So we're less than five years away from complete de-dollarization, which means the collapse of all Western society, because basically all of our GDP comes from these exports or from these imports is going to go away.
The BRICS nations have waged economic warfare against the West and rightfully so because the West has utilized economic warfare against them to basically keep them in tow and gain United Nations votes against these other superpower countries and to wage war against a lot of these other countries to rape their natural resources and steal the wealth from their people.
And so we are coming to this climax, this precipice moment here in the country.
Angel's Journey Revealed 00:15:10
And Jason, I believe that coming into the end of September, we're going to enter into what I would consider to be, and people know this from the boards, red October.
Red October is coming.
I think that this is going to be where we're going to have global standoffs with nuclear powers.
We're going to have the beginnings of the banking collapses come out again.
And also the rise of the new pandemic.
And Jason, this is really interesting.
I've been covering this the last few days.
I don't know if you know this.
I've studied occultism, esoteric mysteries, all these various different philosophies for well over 25 years.
And one thing that we know is that these high elites, they know astrology.
They practice astrology.
They understand astrology to a very, very large and high degree.
Well, guess what?
In September 23rd, which is the autumn equinox, this is a time of like the harvest moon time period, right?
This is a very specific time beginning to the what they call the fall of the sun to the winter solstice.
And so this is a really important time for harvest, for basically getting things and collecting things and getting ready for a dark winter or for a very, very cold winter.
During this time, there's an astronomical event of Eris, which is a proto-planet coming into what's called a major node of the moon.
A major node is kind of where the moon and the sun overlap on the elliptic.
And there's only a few points of when this actually happens.
This is the first time that this has happened in 19 years.
And the last time it happened, we went into Afghanistan for war.
In the 1990s, we went into Iraq in war.
This typically represents war.
Eris, the goddess, Greek goddess of discord, disharmony, and chaos, is normally seen with Aries, who is the god of war.
And it was Eris and Aries who sparked the Trojan Wars in ancient Greece.
Well, Eris is coming into this major node point directly on the autumn equinox, which is going to bring a lot of discord chaos throughout the world during the month of October.
Well, what's interesting, Jason, and I don't know if you saw this, this also follows what's known as the rules of five or the laws of five from Discordianism, which is a 1963 religion based upon the worship of Eris.
Now, it deals with the laws of five, basically saying all things come within multiples of five, divisible five by five, or groups of five.
Now, the five here is we have EG5, which is the fifth derivation of the Omicron variant.
And guess what they named it?
Eris.
Josh, we got to go to break.
We got to wrap it there.
I'll say this, you know, there was a lot there to digest.
You know, where I stick to is where I can prove.
Obviously, with these external events, with the fires, you know, they're obviously using it for their agenda, the climate change agenda, the consolidation of power agenda.
We are in a time of turmoil where World War III seems to not be on the table.
Obviously, Alex Jones came out with his whistleblower information that now has been followed up by a lot of documentation that the Department of Defense and the Veterans Association are preparing for pandemic-like measures.
And now you do see the return of masks over in Atlanta College.
On top of that, you're seeing it in Seattle hospitals.
So nothing is off the table.
I thank you for your time, sir.
We will see you next week when we come back.
We're going to talk sound of freedom with the executive producer and beyond Paul Hutchinson.
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What should people know about that whole blow up with Project Veritas?
I read a few people wrong, and that's my fault, but I learned from that.
I think I'll be a more effective messenger as a result of that.
That'll free me up to do the next chapter, the next stage of my evolution, which is OMG, which is decentralizing journalism.
And sometimes things happen for a reason.
That's my goal.
That's my mission.
And I didn't ask for that.
Lincoln, I'd ever thought that would be my mission.
It just has become my mission.
And I'm excited about it.
We are back.
It is Making Sense of the Madness.
And Sound of Freedom has really been a phenomenon, something more than a movie, something that has sparked a movement in this country to look into child trafficking.
And I am very pleased to be joined by its executive producer, somebody who has been a part of over 70 undercover missions, started numerous organizations to help children and beyond.
Paul Hutchinson is with us.
Paul, thank you so much for joining us.
And really, let's start with the fact that not only was this a long journey, but this has become somewhat of a commercial success.
It looks like it will become an international success, all against, I would say, the most severe of odds.
And continually, as it happened, you were demonized further and further in the media.
So what's that journey felt like?
Thank you, Jason.
Excited to share with your audience here.
Yes, it's been a long journey.
The rescue mission itself happened almost 10 years ago in Columbia.
That was my first undercover rescue mission.
I've, as you said, have led or been played a key part in over 70 since then.
And I've seen the darkest depravity of human nature.
And the biggest eye-opener for me was the pushback we got right from the very beginning.
And in fact, we years ago, Metwini and Lionsgate and Paramount and had this amazing story of this rescue in Colombia and a number of others that we ended up putting together in the same script.
And right at first, there was some interest.
However, they wanted full control.
They could have put one of our operators in a situation where he was doing something horrible with a child in the middle.
We couldn't have changed anything.
They could have tabled it for 10 years, 20 years, and never brought it out.
So we realized that the only way that we were going to bring this to the world is we have to do it privately.
And honestly, I'm not a film investor at all.
I'm a real estate investor.
I'm a co-founder of Bridge Investment Group, a little over $48 billion in asset center management.
I have a great team.
People ask me all the time, I have questions about real estate.
No, I don't know anything about real estate.
I build a team.
I know how to build teams.
And that's what happened here is we put together the right team to create a movement.
That's what we wanted right from the beginning: to create a Paul.
You're breaking up quite a bit.
There's everything to each right now.
We're back.
You're back now.
Well, we lost about the last 30 seconds.
I believe you were talking about how this film had already been completed many years ago.
You were talking about that independent journey.
Take it from there.
Yes.
So after it was finished, you know, you guys have heard some of the rumors that Disney tabled it.
Yeah, they had bought out Fox International and Fox had the distribution rights on it.
Everything was stuck.
It was tabled at that point.
We're like, okay, do they not like it as much as we do?
You know, are we the only guys that think that this is a great film?
And then, of course, we had to buy them out and put some other people in the cap table.
But even after that, multiple distributors over the last five years that would bring some great guys in.
They would tie it up for three months, six months, even longer, and then disappear on us.
And so it wasn't until we were able to come up with a, and it wasn't even me.
I had kind of walked away.
I'm like, you know what?
Maybe this isn't how we're supposed to create this movement.
Maybe there's other things that we can do.
In fact, I decided.
Before we even signed anything with Angel Studios, that I just needed to go public.
I'm done doing undercover work.
I need to go public.
I need to use my voice because somehow we need to create a movement.
And it was about a month after that first public that I got this phone call and found out that Angel was interested.
And what's so exciting about this is that we're bringing this to the people by the people.
That's what happened with Angel Studios is there's so many good the TV series The Chosen and others to the world that are now saying, you know what, this has good values and it's teachings that are going to keep our children safe.
So it's been a long road, but we're super excited to be where we are.
Well, one of the things I really appreciated about how you got it out to people is you did make it a movement.
Instead of investing in the traditional way of being on television or working with the big networks, you went on shows like mine and people that were involved went all over the place and you utilized social media and you made it so that you could buy somebody else a ticket.
And quite frankly, I was able to see it because the theater less than a mile away from here was playing it and it was sold out most nights.
Obviously, it's an incredible film and it deserves all the praise.
But at the same time, you know, immediately it was taking on blockbusters that had name value for decades, movies we grew up with, such as Indiana Jones.
And that's really when the daggers and the darts started getting thrown by the mainstream media that had essentially ignored this entire campaign and this journey prior, even though it was the mainstream media that highlighted the actual operation just a decade before, Paul.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We had we had a CBS article that came out that, you know, I was still undercover.
You can see me in that CBS article.
My face is blurred when they're showing the things with the traffickers.
But, you know, at that point, the Homeland Security agent was like, you know what, we need to go bigger and public.
And he wanted to be on CNN, ABC, et cetera.
And so we said, okay, you're going to be the face.
We're going to continue to do these rescue missions.
But they highlighted it.
It was a successful operation.
In fact, over 120 victims were recovered that day between Cartagena and Medellin, Colombia, and a place called Armenia, Columbia.
And so between all three of those, in fact, you'll see a documentary coming out called Operation Triple Take, which has a lot of the footage of those rescues.
Now, myself and other operators who chose to continue to be undercover for the next 10 years, our faces either blurred or cut out because we weren't interested in the risk that would come if we continued to do undercover if our faces were out.
But yeah, that was out there 10 years ago.
But now that it has this movement behind it, and they realize, wow, this could really make an impact.
Now, here's something interesting, Jason.
You follow the history of Angel Studios and their founders.
There were some lawsuits in the back past.
And this will shed some light on Hollywood and really how they feel about the messages that are being put out by Angel and others.
That lawsuit was simply because they had some software that allowed you and I as good parents to limit some of the things that were coming in through some of the movies.
We could actually edit out.
If we saw a really good movie and we're thinking, you know what, I would love to watch that with my kids, but it's rated R.
It's got some sex scenes in it.
It's got some vulgarity.
It's got some violence.
They had some software that allowed you and I to censor whatever is coming into our home.
It wasn't going to lose any money for Hollywood.
It simply allowed us to have that control to control the narrative that was coming in.
And that was a big deal to them.
And there was lots of legal battles that were going back and forth over our ability to censor that was coming stuff coming into our house.
That was a huge eye-opening moment for me in understanding really what the agenda is and what they're trying to force feed us by deciding what it is that they're going to put out, not the things that we want to be watching.
You know, that's interesting because I do remember that software.
I had no idea there were lawsuits surrounding it because like you said, it's not like anybody's losing monetary value.
If anything, they might gain monetary value.
You might purchase that movie and watch it with your child.
And really, it's no different than, again, what the vast majority of us grew up with because most things weren't on cable and they were censored.
You could watch those things with your kids.
It's very bizarre.
It shows not only do they want narrative control, they want to hurt those that would challenge that narrative control.
And this film is really set not only to be a national phenomenon, but obviously this is a story that doesn't take place the vast majority of the time in the United States.
And we're talking about international human trafficking in this.
So there is a wide appeal.
You're about to launch this in several other places.
Let's talk about that.
Yeah, we're opening up all over Latin America on August 31st.
So we're just over a week away right now as this is airing.
And we've been down there a bunch over the last few months.
And not only myself, but some of the actors and some of the other people putting it together.
The audience down there, I believe, is going to be bigger than even the U.S. There.
Every single country we went in are so excited about supporting this movement, about bringing this.
In fact, there was a couple cases where there was some pushback from some politicians in Latin America saying, you know what, we're probably not going to be showing that film in our country.
And there were not riots, but there were protests in the streets.
We got video footage in from some of our friends in that area with these huge protests in the streets and people saying, no, we want to show this.
We want to see this here.
And so it's exciting to see this global movement of people coming together and wanting to see it.
Now, I will say this.
You know, you touched on, hey, this is a Latin America thing.
Global Movement Against Trafficking 00:02:48
It's your own backyard thing.
I'm telling you right now, there are hundreds of thousands of children in the United States that are being trafficked right now.
And yes, if you guys have seen the film already, yes, all of those things happen.
We put together four or five, actually eight different rescue missions and put them all together in that same script.
But the reality is the majority of trafficking doesn't happen that way.
It doesn't happen where you've got a healthy family and some children that are taken and put on a cargo cargo container thing to another country.
I mean, those things happen, yes.
But what we as parents need to understand, and this is not only here in the U.S., but these are the talks I have in Latin America.
There are a lot of things that we can do as parents to keep our kids safe that is beyond just making sure they don't get taken to another country in a container ship.
And we can go into details of that.
But yes, we're super excited about the global movement that's happening from this film and from our message as a whole.
Well, absolutely, because it's not a left or right issue.
It is a human issue, hence a global issue.
We do have to take a break when we come back.
I do want to talk about that aspect of how you got into this because we talked about it kind of behind the scenes.
You talk about our own backyard, but who really fits the profile and how can you really protect yourself and those around you from this aspect of that?
So we'll be back after this.
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We are back.
It is Making Sense of the Madness.
And Paul, when we were talking before the show, you said, you know, one of the reasons I was able to get into this so easily is because I looked like somebody they would do business with or had done business with.
And so many people disassociate themselves with human trafficking.
And yet, when there's large-scale events like the Super Bowl in this country, you know, somewhere amidst the headlines, we all know it's a huge market for human trafficking in all of its forms.
Yet, we as a society kind of ignore that part of this.
Absolutely.
And as you touched on, one of the reasons I was brought in is that profile.
You know, I was a wealthy, well-spoken, connected businessman and had a successful real estate company.
And when the Homeland Security agent was introduced to me by our attorney general, it was in the beginning, Hey, can you, this is what we're doing.
We've got these children down here.
Can you help us introduce this to some people that can help fund this, et cetera?
But then a month later, I got a phone call and he said, Paul, I'm in Cartagena.
There's not just 20 children.
There's more than 100.
There's more than 50 in Cartagena, more than 100 in the surrounding cities.
That he said, we believe we can rescue them all at the same time.
But I'd love your help if you can help us.
And I said, well, how much do you need?
I thought there needed money.
And he said, I need you.
Can you be in Colombia in two days?
He said, the head trafficker has a piece of property wants to develop into a child brothel sex resort.
He needs a few million dollars to build it out.
He said, and he has connections with all these other traffickers.
Somehow, we need to get him to call the other traffickers, get them to bring all their children together so that we can rescue all of them at the same time.
He said, we believe he'll make those calls if he thinks the only way that you're going to fund his hotel, resort, sex brothel for kids is if he can prove to you that he can be successful at it by having a party for you and your buddies with 50 to 100 kids.
And I'm like, the parties, they have it.
He goes, oh, yeah, they have them all the time.
He said, there are wealthy guys with big, arrogant egos that come down and write these big checks and not checks.
It's all cash, of course.
But he said, that's the profile.
In fact, at the very end of that mission, after 54 children there in Cartagena had been identified and rescued and brought back to their families, I said to the attorney general, I said, bro, I said, I've spent my whole life making rich people richer.
I want to make a difference.
What can I do?
Can I write more checks?
And he said, Paul, he said, I can't.
He said, there's a huge percentage of the demand for some of these horrible things that are coming from guys who look and dress and talk like you.
He said, I can't teach my Navy SEALs how to wear a $50,000 watch and negotiate a multi-million dollar deal.
He said, and I don't know of very many ultra-successful business owners who have the training that you've had.
If you're willing to be the bait, I'll change your whole life.
That was 10 years ago.
And we did many undercover rescue missions where I came in, not as Paul Hutchinson, as Paul Stone or Paul Steele or Paul Black, whatever, but a fake profile with me with Lamborghinis and Ferraris and whatever else that the undercover operators in advance would go in, show these traffickers, and they'd be like, yep, we do that all the time.
This is what we do.
We set up parties just like that.
And boom, they would bring all their children together.
So, you know, what you touched on earlier, this is not a right or a left issue.
This is a human trafficking.
In fact, a quick touch, that the border wall should have never been a political issue ever.
That's a human trafficking issue.
And we need to come together.
I've been on a bunch of shows on the right, on the center.
I'm trying to get on some on the left as well, because this should bring us together.
This is something that we can all fight on.
You know, we might disagree on saving the rainforests or on, you know, saving the wells or, you know, what the border wall even sometimes we have, but this is something we can all agree on.
Nobody, nobody should be, hey, I'm on the side of human trafficking, especially children.
No, that doesn't work.
And so we need to understand also that there are things that a lot of people will leave the movie and they'll say, okay, you know, I've got, I'm so motivated.
What do I do?
You know, can I go help you on a mission?
You know, the worst thing that you can do is go try to be a Rambo in Latin America.
You're going to get killed.
You're going to get arrested, right?
We worked with the right people right from the very top, et cetera.
The best thing that you can do is actually go home and hug your kids.
People are like, how is that going to occur?
No, that the majority of children that were trafficked, that were taken from their families, were out there actually being sold come from broken homes, from a broken foster care program, or from runaways, et cetera.
Or even in your own homes, there's so many children that are experienced that kind of abuse and they sleep in their own beds at night.
And people are surprised at that.
How does that work?
No, you need to have a relationship with your children where they can come to you and say, hey, dad, you know what?
I feel uncomfortable when you make me hug Uncle Harry.
Or I feel uncomfortable when I go to my friend's house because her brother slaps me on the butt or our babysitter is having us watch pornography and she's telling us that we should trust her more than you.
These are all grooming type behaviors that if you have a relationship with your children and understand that many studies say that literally one in every four women in America on the planet, actually, one in every four have been a victim of sexual violence as a child and many of them in their own homes.
So if we're going to fix this, you know, for 10 years, my goal was to eradicate child trafficking.
I'm leaving rescue missions.
I'm paying for operators to go in and helping start new foundations, all of these things.
And I realized last year, I'm thinking, okay, Paul, if your goal is to eradicate trafficking, you're not doing a very good job because there's more children being sold today than there was 10 years ago.
So I took a step back and I thought, how do we fix this?
How do we fix this?
This is something we should be able to figure out how to fix, right?
And I realized, okay, where is the demand side coming from?
Because if all we were doing is just rescuing the kids, If not enough was being done on the demand side, then we would leave a vacuum and 20 or 30 or 40 more children would be sucked back in.
So from the demand side, we've got teams that are out there arresting pedophiles right now that are doing a great job.
But even beyond that, what if we could back that up five or 10 years before they ever get to that point and say, okay, these young adults that were maybe abused as children themselves that before they ever pass that trauma on, literally one out of every three children that end up with that kind of abuse, one out of every three become contact offenders themselves in some way, either verbal or physical or sexual abuse of a child.
And so from a pure compassionate standpoint, by stepping back and saying, okay, I don't have a time machine.
I can't go back in time and fix the ones who are, those guys who have already crossed that line, they need to go to jail.
Okay.
But what about the tens of millions that haven't crossed that line that have experienced trauma as a child?
What if we could give them that help that they need to shed that, to come to a place where they're not defining themselves by what happened to them?
And people ask me all the time, how can you go face to face with somebody selling a child and not have them see the anger in your eyes?
Realize this.
I do have anger.
You know, I will do everything in my power to ensure they never hurt another child again.
But what I wish more than anything is that we could have figured this out 10 and 20 and 30 years ago before they ever passed that trauma on.
Well, I certainly, you know, feel sympathy for those that have been abused and then become abusers.
But I think one of the big problems is the fact that when we do catch these people, they have light sentences and these people don't stop.
They are repeat offenders.
And for some reason in this society, there seems to be this movement to normalize sexual behavior and the exploitation of children.
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And we're seeing it more and more, not less and less.
And with lower sentences, unfortunately, it's allowed to proliferate, in my opinion.
I want to talk about that and more when we come back.
We've got to take a break.
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We'll be back after this to make sense of the madness.
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And Paul, before the break, you were talking solutions.
But at the same time, we look at where society is moving.
And again, the demonization of your film, the fact that there seems to be this movement to sexualize children.
How do we combat that?
I mean, it's gotten to an extreme point where when people speak up at school board meetings, they're now domestic terrorists.
We have the Department of Injustice literally mobilized against those that are concerned about protecting kids.
Here's something important, Jason.
And please, I'm hoping your audience doesn't get me wrong on that last section in thinking that in any way, shape, or form, that I'm a sympathizer with anybody who has hurt a child, period, right?
What I'm saying is that there are links in this chain, right?
The very end of this chain, and a lot of anti-child trafficking organizations, including my own, the Child Liberation Foundation, we've got a break in that chain.
And the goal is to break that way before it gets to that end.
That end link in that chain is the abuse of a child.
We don't want to get anywhere near that, right?
And that's the area that I was cleaning up garbage is that when it already got to that end, and we needed to clean up that garbage.
And so, as I've been looking through from a solution standpoint, we all, as good Americans and good parents, need to stay way away from that end link, way away in our society as a whole.
So we have to ask ourselves: what are the other links on that chain that are leading to that?
Things like pornography addiction.
Now, everybody who's watching me right now is seeing pornography.
It's not going to become, you're going to become a pedophile, but every one of these guys started out with a hardcore addiction.
So we need to step back and say, okay, are we normalizing that?
Are we saying, hey, it's okay?
No, it's not okay.
It's not okay.
When you take a woman from a divine feminine to an object, you start going down a dark road, period, every single time, right?
You're thinking this is a victimless crime.
I'm in the quietness of my own office.
Nobody knows.
No, everybody knows, right?
And your wife knows for sure because she can feel it.
And that is so disrespectful in every way.
And it takes our minds down this dark road.
Now, what happens is that some guys get addicted and then they need something harder to have that same fix.
And harder for some of them is more grotesque.
It's, you know, rape videos for some of them.
Harder is a little bit younger.
Pretty soon they're fantasizing about things they wouldn't have even thought was attractive five years Ago.
And then they're acting out on those horrific fantasies.
So we're saying, okay, now let's ban pornography.
No, let's take a few chains back from that.
Okay.
This is this sexualization, not only of children, but as everything.
We're making it okay for the crap that Hollywood is forcing down our throats.
And we're saying, oh, yeah, no, that's not so bad.
You know, it's just some, just some, some boobs there.
It's just some, you know, they're not really showing.
It's not as hardcore as I've seen in my, really, this is where it all leads.
You know, that those links in those chains, we all have to ask ourselves, what is it that big media, big Hollywood, big corporations, big government, whatever it is that is that is forcing us to be in this specific narrative that is making it so that it's even a conversation that we should allow a third grader to decide what gender they are.
Are you kidding me?
Are you kidding me?
Where did this all come from?
All of these things that we're now battling, it's because we allowed the other links in that chain to exist for many, many years.
So we have to take a step back and say, no, I'm not just going to fight that end link.
I'm not just going to fight child trafficking.
I'm not just going to fight the kids that want sex change.
I'm going to fight the multiple links in that chain all the way back and ask myself, where did that come from?
How did we get to this point?
And these are the conversations we can have.
You know, before this time, it wasn't a polite conversation around a dinner table to talk about child sex trafficking.
That's just too dark.
I mean, we're going to talk about that.
Now, with the movie, it allows us to start having those conversations.
And where should those conversations go?
Should they just be talking about all that stuff happened in Columbia?
No, we need to talk about the things that are happening in our own homes.
We need to talk about keeping our kids safe from this kind of travesty happening by their uncle, by their neighbor, et cetera.
And what kind of things are we allowing ourselves to normalize that were not normal 10 and 15 years ago?
And at the same time, you know, you also have large institutions that have not only taken part in large part in these activities, you look at like the Catholic Church, you look at aspects of the Boy Scouts, but then covered it up after the fact.
And that to me is extremely egregious that we could allow these things to get to this level.
You know, we're talking about our own backyard.
We are talking about international, but at the end of the day, like you said, this is a human issue, a global issue.
When I look at this, I look at a lot of people of power and prominence on an individual level, but there are networks to these things.
And that's why you see it bleed into the institutions of religion and politics, etc.
What was your experience with these institutions of power in these things?
I'll tell you this.
There's as much of this crap going on on the right as there is the left.
You know, there's as much of this crap, even more going on inside of some of our religious institutions where people are hiding the sexual issues that are going on in their congregations just because they, you know, it would destroy them.
And so we need to take a solid look, not pointing fingers at the other side ever, ever, ever.
We need to realize that when you're pointing one finger at somebody else, you got three pointing back at you.
And so we need to take a look at our institutions and say, okay, are there things within my churches?
Are there things within my politics that people are hiding this and covering it up, et cetera?
It's happening everywhere.
It's happening everywhere.
And I can't tell you how many of the perpetrators that were taken down That were wealthy guys that voted right, that thought that they were beyond the law.
You know, that the old saying that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely is so true.
So you have to take a look at who's in that power position where they believe that they have some degree of absolute power and where that's leading them from an arrogant standpoint, from an ego standpoint, from a disregard for human life or pain in other standpoints.
And you can see these energies in people.
You can see, okay, you know what?
That guy really doesn't give a shit about people.
He doesn't, right?
How he treats them, et cetera.
Those are the profile that are then going to look into things like prostitution, et cetera.
Now, here's something important as well.
Okay.
There are so many listeners here that think, you know what, prostitution is a victimless crime.
Really, it's another consenting adult that we're not hurting anybody, or even my pornography is when you once you realize that even those prostitutes that say they're independent, there's like 80 plus, from my experience and the ones that we've helped to get out of that trade and rescue, over 80, 90% of the ones that say they're independent are actually being trafficked.
They're being controlled through fear, through manipulation.
The traffickers are saying, you know, you tell anybody, I know where your sister lives, I know where your mom lives, et cetera.
And so it's horrific when you start realizing that even looking at pornography, 80 plus percent statistically are women who were not there by choice or men, that they were being forced or controlled or trafficked as well.
You are contributing to human trafficking when you're going down those roads.
So don't sit back and say, oh, this is a victimless crime or just consenting adults or this is just pornography.
No, you are contributing to the problem as a whole by going down those roads.
And it's important that we have these conservative values.
Are they just so that we can sell those guys are evil and we're good?
No, there's it's because of things like this that you're destroying lives, not only destroying your own family by engaging in those activities, you are contributing to human trafficking when you're engaging in those activities.
It's important for us to realize that.
You know, going back to your point that this isn't a left or right issue, and many on the right have partaken in some of the most egregious activities, I'd like to remind people of the Franklin scandal, callboys in the White House, the fact that you had, even during the second Bush administration, James Gannon or James Guckert of Talon News, who was also the head madam of military studs in the front row there.
And then you had people like Mark Foley who were going out on television and championing Chris Hansen and his investigations, you know, the have a seat guy.
And then all of a sudden, he's sexting 15-year-old pages and trying to take advantage of teenage boys.
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So, you know, this has been going on for a very long time.
By the way, he didn't do any prison time.
He got rehab.
He's got a radio show now.
Everything's okay.
That seems to be how the system works.
We got to take one more break.
This has been a riveting discussion.
We're talking to Paul Hutchinson, the executive producer of the movement, not the movie, Sound of Freedom.
back after this.
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Final segment of Making Sense of the Madness.
Paul, you know, one of the things that I've really enjoyed about this conversation is you've told my audience to look in the mirror, and we say that on a daily basis.
Basically, what can you do in your own life, in your own family, in your own community, to ward these activities away and change things from the ground up?
What are some other ways that people can get directly involved?
Obviously, institutions like yours, organizations like yours, do need funding.
I'm hoping because of the financial success of this film that there will be more projects that can reach more people.
And, you know, I love documentary films.
I'm a documentary filmmaker myself.
Narratives like yours that are powerfully acted and shot can affect the world in ways documentaries most of the time can't.
So hopefully we get more of these narratives out there.
Are there plans for that?
And again, how can people really support you and help?
Absolutely.
There's plans.
In fact, my wife is Ada Vanessa, H-A-D-A, last name, Vanessa.
She was a pretty well-known actress in Columbia for a while.
She just did her first big U.S. movie last year.
She was an assassin who kills assassins.
And it's called La Soga Salvation.
But she's working on a few new ones.
We've been approached by a whole bunch of producers and directors and people who have scripts already.
So we're filtering through those to figure out where we're putting it because you're right.
This narrative needs to continue.
And we have some documentaries that are being put together, others that we're supporting that are already filmed from some of the rescue missions that we did and a bunch of others that are coming out.
And so our foundation is called the Child Liberation Foundation.
You go to liberatechildren.org and get some information there.
There's some great stuff there that can help you keep your kids safe, that can help you identify what trafficking looks like and can give you other resources, etc.
From a more global standpoint, my goal is not just liberating children.
As we talked about on this film and this screening here, my goal is to truly liberate humanity as a whole.
And so all of my, all of my Instagram, everything else is all liberating.humanity on TikTok, Instagram, et cetera.
Even our website is liberating-humanity.
And there's a lot of build out there over the next few weeks.
You'll see a lot of new stuff coming in of tools that you can use.
Everything from the Krav Maga training that I did, some of my trainers are on there, the edged weapons and improvised weapons.
What's interesting is that we're putting a lot of money into trauma healing.
The very same things that many of the things that we use in healing trauma are things that will prevent trauma.
And you're like, well, how does that work?
Well, you know, you're building self-esteem, teaching your kids how to look in the mirror and say, you know what, I love myself.
I love myself.
I like myself, whatever.
And practicing those little wins and mentally rehearsing things that are going to make them not appear like a victim.
Those same trainings are the same things we use when we're helping people heal through their trauma.
Also, from a confidence standpoint, a lot of these women who have dealt with trauma, we put them through self-defense training so that they know that if that ever happens again, they can deal with it.
That level of confidence that they get ensures that they're not a victim in the future.
And, you know, people ask what kind of training I've done.
You know, years ago, I did some karate and other hand-to-hand.
I'm really, really good with weapons.
I've been training for decades.
But also, Krav Maga, I would strongly suggest you look into putting your kids into something like that.
People say, what is Krav?
Well, you know, it's Israeli special forces.
Hand-to-hand combat training is very lethal.
Everything there, they don't walk, they don't talk, they don't breathe.
You know, you're trained to take away a gun faster than they can pull the trigger every time.
These are all things that will build confidence in your kids, not just bow to your sense, say, three points when you kick them in the leg.
And so these are all tools that we're putting on the liberating humanity site.
But you can even just go look in your Yelp, look online, find something on Yelp in your neighborhood that you can go and get some of that because that kind of confidence that can come to you, knowing that you can protect your family and to your children is super valuable.
And that way they don't end up looking like a victim or being a victim when they have that level of confidence.
Also, is understand that the average age of somebody who comes out and discusses the fact that they were abused as a child, the average age is 52 years old.
So that's my age, right?
I've got grandkids that we've raised our kids, and this is a build my career.
If you're holding on to that kind of pain all those years, God bless you.
If you're one of those two-thirds that never passes that on to somebody else, but you're still holding on to it.
And it comes out in anxiety or depression or sometimes anger, whatever else.
If you can step back from that, get the help that you need so that you never have the chance of passing that on in verbal abuse or whatever.
And understand also the signs of other people who have been through that kind of trauma and get them the help that they need as teenagers, as young adults, before they ever pass it on.
If we could do that, we save millions of children.
And we don't have to go in after the fact and treat the symptom.
We don't have to go in and pull a kid out of trafficking because we fix the demand side.
We fix those things in our home and our society, et cetera, that we're contributing to this fastest-growing criminal enterprise in the world.
Those are all things that we can do as families to keep our children safe and to fix this problem globally and to truly liberate humanity.
Well, Paul, unfortunately, I think that takes work for a lot of people, which is absolutely necessary.
Instead, they want to be prescribed a pill, think everything's just going to go away.
No, you got to work on yourself and you got to work every day.
This has been an amazing conversation.
Congratulations on the success of the film.
I hope you take it global and it skyrockets because this is a message that every man, woman, and child has to hear.
And we do have to stop what's going around around the world with these kids.
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