WorldCoin, the 40,000-Foot View, and ARC for America’s Future! | MSOM Ep. 796
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| Welcome to Making Sense of the Madness. | |
| I am Jason Burmese and today we have a very special show for you. | |
| We've got Josh Reed, John Michael Chambers, and Basil and Tina Baz. | |
| We're going to be talking human trafficking, digital currency, and the launch of a new show. | |
| get ready to make sense of the madness. | |
| Your digital blockchain slavery is here and now you can have your iris biometrically scanned by the orb. | |
| The new Bilderberg Bro Sam Altman project has launched, to my dismay. | |
| And we're living in what I can only call a dystopian nightmare when you have a tokenized system that is to be integrated into a universal basic income driven by the chat GPT AI guy and his cohorts. | |
| To discuss that and much more, we have Josh Reed. | |
| Josh, this was a long time coming, but it has finally come to fruition. | |
| An AI UBI blockchain with a dystopic device that goes with your biometrics. | |
| Yeah, you know what? | |
| Listen, just last week, we had the Bank of International Settlements come out with a unified ledger framework that they've been discussing for a long time. | |
| We knew that this was a long time coming. | |
| One of my friends who works over at the Treasury Federal Reserve, he's a programmer. | |
| He worked for Coinbase, went on over there. | |
| And he told me January 1st, 2023, the U.S. dollar was dead. | |
| And, you know, January 1st came and we were like wondering, like, well, maybe it's going to happen a little bit longer. | |
| But in actuality, that's when a lot of these projects were brought onto the market and started to do their implementation globally as well as we had the de-dollarization that started occurring around that time. | |
| What Sam Altman is doing here is he's integrating the woke chat GPT that they program themselves and hope that one day reaches an artificial general intelligence to monitor and surveil the whole world. | |
| And they claim that this is private data, Jason, but that's anything but the case. | |
| What's happening there is that you can't access it. | |
| It's not on the public blockchains, but the data of your identification, the data of your social media, the integration of all that to all the various technologies that are around us from smartphones to smart TVs to Alexa doorbell ringers is all going to be integrated and basically monitored, | |
| very similar to how Facebook operates their social algorithms with what's known as an egg, is that all these companies are going to begin producing a digital profile upon you, your movements, where you're going, how they can track your phone throughout the day, as well as the things that you're utilizing and purchasing with your money. | |
| What types of things are you accessing with this card? | |
| They're going to be recording your voice. | |
| They're going to be recording video. | |
| They're going to be utilizing smart technology within your house to integrate that into a digital profile. | |
| And this is all to bring about, and we know this, Jason, a social credit score, a digital ID, and then a centralized digital currency. | |
| And with those three factions, people become enslaved digitally to what I call the digital slave matrix. | |
| And we're moving into this world very, very fast. | |
| We simply are literally one crisis away from the integration of that whole world coming about. | |
| And, you know, Jason, we have this world coming about very, very fast because two weeks ago, the central banks of the world have started removing all of their gold and precious metals from various different vaults around the world, the London Metal Exchange, the Perth Mint. | |
| They're calling their gold back home. | |
| Typically, when we see that, and we saw that, by the way, in World War II, is when there's about to be an outbreak of World War. | |
| We have all the rumors that the BRICS nations are about to introduce their first global reserve currency. | |
| There's rumor that this global reserve currency is going to be backed upon gold. | |
| We have Russia just announcing yesterday that they've introduced the digital rupee. | |
| The rupee itself, the fiat rupee, is backed upon gold. | |
| The digital rupee has the same powers as the fiat rupee. | |
| So we're seeing the BRICS nations make a transition towards gold and other precious metals as a sense of security and haven for potentially what's going to come about in the global economy in the next coming weeks and months. | |
| And that rumor right now that's circulating is a global war, global war. | |
| We saw the Ukrainian intelligence warnings just the other day that the Wagner group that is now setting up in Belarus is potentially going to go and try to attack Poland, a NATO nation, which would initiate Article 5 of NATO, allowing NATO to go in there and start eradicating, in their own words, Russia and Wagner. | |
| Now, I don't see this happening. | |
| Ukrainian intelligence is about as accurate as a broken clock. | |
| But on the financial aspect of things, the United States is going bankrupt. | |
| The United States is losing its homogeny across the world globally with trade and imports, exports, and especially within the dollar. | |
| Now, the good thing about the dollar is that the dollar is still the number one traded currency in the sense of imports and exports. | |
| And the reason is, is because the U.S. has a very, very strong exports market, and we require other countries to trade those exports in the U.S. dollar and keep a certain amount of dollar reserves in place. | |
| The problem comes about is when you have a transition of a global reserve currency like the BRICS new currency that's coming about. | |
| You've got to remember the BRICS nations have 72% of the global population, 63% of the trade, and 42% of the GDP of the global community. | |
| With them moving and switching towards this BRICS digital currency, this BRICS reserve currency, this is going to begin the process of de-dollarization globally, where over the next five years, we're going to see the dollar hyperinflate. | |
| We're going to see the dollar devalue, and we're going to see the United States start to decline into what I would consider to be a Great Depression. | |
| One of the most striking things about this digital identity crypto-tokenized currency is they're advertising it as a digital identity to ensure that you're not a bot. | |
| And they're using it in the UBI system where it's kind of an extension of what Klaus Nutshawab talks about, which is stakeholder capitalism. | |
| This illusion by everybody adhering to this system of giving up their data, not just a track trace database society, but one of the internet of bodies, not just things, that your entire movement will then ensure that you're going to have a great life and you're not going to be enslaved. | |
| It's the inversion of reality, Josh. | |
| Well, you know, it absolutely is. | |
| And you're right. | |
| trying to get this universal basic income implemented to this. | |
| They're trying to sell this. | |
| If we remember the crypto world, when it came about from about 2018 into 2020, I've been involved in cryptocurrency since about 2017. | |
| I'm a fan of decentralized blockchains, decentralized cryptocurrencies, where the people actually control the say of what happens in the future of that blockchain. | |
| But this is anything but what when we start looking at WorldCoin, what they're trying to do is basically you go out there, you purchase your world coin, you go out there and buy it, you get your digital ID set up, and the usability of this is going to generate some type of income. | |
| And they're calling this a universal basic income. | |
| And the reason that they're pushing for this, and if people have went out there and read Klaus Schwab's fourth industrial revolution, they'll start to realize that the technological progression that's happening in society right now is going to have a massive displacement on the labor force, on the workforce, on manufacturing, processing jobs, on just regular everyday jobs, whether you're a server, a cook, or anything like this. | |
| So there is a big concern in society. | |
| Now, one solution that they brought about is this universal basic income that is government sponsored. | |
| But we all know that in order to have government-sponsored universal basic income, that you have to pay more taxes on the people who actually work. | |
| Here's the problem with the World Coin solution. | |
| Number one is adoptability. | |
| Nobody wants a global ID. | |
| Nobody's going to go out there and just register for this to get free money, in a sense. | |
| I mean, you're going to get your average people that do. | |
| The number two part is that this is built upon a system of control. | |
| That if someone is paying you, that means they own you. | |
| And that's something to keep in mind, especially with a centralized digital currency that's directly attached into an artificial intelligence and back-ended into all the technologies and has oversight and regulation and control over by a government. | |
| And this is kind of what the unified ledger was actually talking about. | |
| So when we look at World Coin, this is nothing more than a fox coin. | |
| This is nothing more than a trick for enslavement of humanity. | |
| And I really do see that it's probably going to pick up in popularity. | |
| They are marketing it, like you said. | |
| And the UBI aspect of it is going to draw in all the Marxists from everywhere to adopt it. | |
| That's okay. | |
| You want to know what, Jason? | |
| You and I will stick to gold and silver. | |
| You and I will stick to our decentralized coins if that's what we're out there doing. | |
| We will protect ourselves financially. | |
| We'll protect ourselves for the future and know what's going to happen, specifically when the dollarization happens, a switch of the reserve currencies globally happen, and potentially when World War III breaks out. | |
| Well, I'll tell you what, they're promising free stuff and ensuring democratic processes. | |
| That's literally on the cover page. | |
| Josh, we got to go to break in a second. | |
| Where can people find your stuff? | |
| You know, if they're looking for Dr. Kirk Elliott and they want to get invested in gold and silvers, those IRAs, those 401ks, those 403Bs, whatever it is, if you want to create one, just want to buy gold and silvers, go to getgoldtoday.com. | |
| Getgoldtoday.com. | |
| Dr. Kirk Elliott will take care of them over there. | |
| I'm part of his team and happy to do this. | |
| Thanks, Jason. | |
| Much appreciated. | |
| Thank you so much. | |
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Thanks Jason
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| The world is about to shift. | |
| Banks are going cashless globally with the emergence of central bank digital currency, which will bring with it programmable money and the ability to turn on or off your purchasing power based on your digital social profile. | |
| It's like the equivalent of spyware in your bank account. | |
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| Welcome back to Making Sense of the Madness. | |
| It is my esteemed pleasure to introduce author, speaker, and founder of American Media Periscope here at Amp News. | |
| Well, he's got a new show coming up. | |
| It's the 40,000-foot view, engaging conversations. | |
| And to talk about that is John Michael Chambers. | |
| John, thank you so much for joining us. | |
| Why don't you tell us about the new program? | |
| You bet. | |
| First, I want to thank you for doing such a great job at making sense of the madness. | |
| Perhaps your audience has heard this sort of storyline, but I'd like to begin there with a little bit of humor. | |
| You know, I kicked the show off Making Sense of the Madness three, four years ago. | |
| And, you know, I consider it sort of the Johnny Carson is what I was, if you will. | |
| And then Sean Morgan stepped in and picked it up from there and did a fantastic job as the Jay Leno. | |
| I'm not up to speed on the show hosts that cover that today. | |
| Who would you be in that guy? | |
| I guess I would be Jimmy Fallon. | |
| Not a huge fan of Fallon, but he's an upstate New York guy. | |
| I'm an upstate New York guy. | |
| So the parallels are there, John. | |
| Gotcha. | |
| All right. | |
| Well, there you have it, folks. | |
| Anyway, thanks, Jason, for having me on. | |
| You've got a great show. | |
| I tune into your program as often as I can. | |
| I love what you're doing, and thank you very much. | |
| You know, folks, we are at war. | |
| And my role in this show, Jason, is not really to cover news in the format and the style and the delivery with the research and guests and so forth, as we do as our template here on American Media Periscope with your show and the other shows. | |
| What I'm doing is kicking it off at least as a once-a-month, 30-minute show, as you stated, 40,000-foot view. | |
| What I want to do, our audience and the patriots in this country in this war are getting banged left and right from information all over the place. | |
| And sadly, of course, mostly misinformation and disinformation and just outright propaganda and lies. | |
| And you guys do a fantastic job in delivering the news behind the news, making sense of the madness for the viewers. | |
| What I intend to do in a quick 30 minutes, for those that have a busy life and just want to see my views on weighing in on A, where we're at in this war, and make no mistake about it, in my show, anyone who walks away from watching it will understand, at least from my perspective, that we are in fact winning this war, as dark as it is. | |
| And I will not be eliminating the elements of danger. | |
| In the show, I will cover the dangers. | |
| We'll also provide a breaking intel because intel comes in pretty much every day of one level or another. | |
| And so it'll be a casual show where I will address the issues of the day to connect the dots and make sense of the madness, if you will. | |
| And I also want to provide some behind the scenes experiences I've had and continue to have with various people in our movement, some well-known, some not, sort of information that I can share that should be interesting to folks and gain some insights into myself and those that I speak with. | |
| You know, also, I always say this when I was doing the Reawaken America tour with General Flynn and Clay Clark, I spoke at most of those events. | |
| And of course, we cover it as a news outlet. | |
| But, you know, saving America, folks, is not a spectator sport. | |
| Okay. | |
| Redirecting humanity on this much-needed course correction, again, is not a spectator sport. | |
| We have got to get some skin in the game. | |
| You know, I always say when your children and grandchildren ask you, what were you doing when the global governance was being thrust down the throat of America and the world? | |
| What will your answer be? | |
| Well, we need to get busy living or get busy dying. | |
| And I intend to inspire and keep our movement together in this 30-minute program because we've got to get some skin in the game. | |
| So I will always cover some unique and standard action items, something everyone can and should be doing to jump into this game and kick some deep state, you know what. | |
| So that's a bit about the show. | |
| One other thing I'd like to mention is I want to reconnect with our audience. | |
| You know, when I go speak at the Clay events, I meet thousands and thousands of people that recall my days when I was a show host and recall the significant scare event I had being a recipient of the transmission of graphene oxide and spike proteins and being a COVID longhauler and a lot of those things. | |
| And so it seems that people want to hear from me a bit. | |
| And so I'm going to connect us and provide on my show a dedicated personal private email. | |
| And I'll do my very best to continue the engaging conversations that I'll have on the 40,000 foot view. | |
| That's the best way I can summarize, kind of Jason, what I'll be doing. | |
| Well, one of the things that I love about this network is you just spoke about the fact is we're trying to get our audience more active, right? | |
| Look in the mirror. | |
| What can you do? | |
| And some of the guests that you guys line me up with with organizations like America's Future, Our Rescue, of course, the Reawaken America Tour, which I was lucky enough to meet you in Tennessee on. | |
| And I'll see you in August in Vegas. | |
| I'll also be speaking there. | |
| It's very heavy on getting people up and out of their chair into the school board meetings, into their community, and taking action because you have to be proactive if you want to fight the real misinformation, the real disinformation, and become what I like to call, and what they're calling, quote unquote, malinformation. | |
| Yes, they're trying to demonize that term, but in reality, what is malinformation? | |
| It is truthful information that hurts the establishment narrative. | |
| And that's what AMP News is all about to me. | |
| Now, this show is launching on Friday, August 4th, I believe. | |
| Tell people how they're going to be able to tune in. | |
| You bet. | |
| Thanks, Jason. | |
| And thanks again for all you do each and every day. | |
| The show will be the first Friday of each and every month. | |
| The premiere show is August 4th, Friday at 10 p.m. | |
| You can follow the show at ampnews.us, our platform. | |
| We're also be on the Roku channel and any of the social media type of platforms that AMP shares its content with. | |
| I'll be there. | |
| But follow us right here at ampnews.us and our Roku channel. | |
| You know, Jason, I also failed to mention, I had a three and a half hour discussion yesterday with Mr. Juan O'Savan, whom I know has been on many of our shows. | |
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Launch of AMP News
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| I met Juan many years ago. | |
| I'm going to share on the premiere show some behind the scenes conversations and things that I'm allowed, for lack of a better word, to share with the public. | |
| For example, meeting Jim Cadviesel a couple of years ago and seeing the private screening of Sound of Freedom with about 1,500 patriots. | |
| Jim's talking about that. | |
| He mentions that on some of his appearances right now. | |
| And I was privied and I happened to be there among all these other patriots where we saw Sound of Freedom. | |
| And Jim talks about, because we didn't know he was in the room, but he was watching us from behind the screen, if you will. | |
| And to see the reactions of all of us, and he talks about this in interviews right now. | |
| And there was a moment, Jim stated, where we, the audience, all started whispering at one point in the movie. | |
| And Jim came back and sort of asked us, you know, or looked at it and find out what was happening in the film that inspired all these patriots and influencers and some unique people in three-letter organizations, but the good ones. | |
| This room was filled with some important folks, some known and not known. | |
| But anyway, the bottom line is we were uttering the similarities and discussing Epstein Island, which came to our minds at some trigger point in the film. | |
| For those listening right now to us, please, Sound of Freedom, go check it out. | |
| It's everywhere. | |
| You can go to our homepage and the website and it'll get you there. | |
| Go to your movie theater, buy the tickets and get out there. | |
| But Jason, don't you love what's happening? | |
| You know, who's gaining control? | |
| I'll ask you a question. | |
| Who's gaining control over the narrative right now in this information war? | |
| Well, I like to be just some small part in getting people out to not only The Sound of Freedom, which is an amazing film. | |
| I was able to see it on opening weekend, just a mile from here. | |
| Did extremely well in the theater that opening weekend, what? | |
| It's to the tune of $40 million taking out Indiana Jones. | |
| It's now become a $100 million plus smash hit. | |
| And the media is doing everything they can to talk about Barbie and other nonsense while we're on the front lines and people are getting activist. | |
| Operation Underground Railroad is something I want to promote. | |
| Why, John? | |
| Because they're actually on the ground saving children. | |
| And that should say it all. | |
| When you have a mainstream media apparatus and an establishment coming out so hard against a dramatic film that's shot well, acted well, has such a positive message and is based on a true story on an organization, again, that's truly making a difference. | |
| I know I'm on the right side of history and I know I'm helping other people get there, John. | |
| Well, you absolutely are. | |
| We are the tip of God's spear. | |
| This is an information war and we're making sense of that madness and you're doing a great job. | |
| And, you know, Operation Underground Railroad, which you mentioned, I learned of that, Tim Ballard's organization, the 501c3, back a couple of years ago at the Caviesel screening. | |
| And from day one, my day one of understanding of Operation Underground Railroad, American Media Periscope is on an automatic debit each and every month, contributing to Operation Underground Railroad because Tim Ballard is the perfect example of what I'm talking about, where everyone has got to get some skin in the game. | |
| This is an incredible, brave man who sacrificed a lot and is enduring. | |
| I'm going to talk about some things that I learned yesterday in a conversation that Ballard is going through as a result of the release of this film, as well as Jim Caviesel. | |
| But you know what? | |
| I consider, Jason, the release of this film right now, Angel Studios, thank goodness for that, is very pivotal in the war that we're dealing with. | |
| Because the late Robert David Steele, friend of ours at AMP, friend of mine, I don't know if he coined this phrase, but it seemed to have come from Robert, but he certainly put it out there. | |
| And that is that pedophilia sex trafficking is the Achilles' heel of the deep state. | |
| They can't divide us and conquer us on that subject. | |
| So, right now, with the release of this film, boy, you can clearly see who's who and what's what. | |
| And this is a major, major door open. | |
| And thank you, President Trump, for everything the president had done years ago when occupying the White House for rehabilitating and rescuing the children. | |
| There was a lot of money put down in certain areas for that. | |
| And the president, of course, just displayed the film, I think, at Bedminster. | |
| So this is big. | |
| I'd like to get your way in on that. | |
| How pivotal and how critical do you think, Jason, the release of this film is with the momentum that it's got just fresh out of the gate? | |
| What kind of an impact do you think this will have as we continue fighting the fight on many fronts? | |
| Well, I think it's huge on a multitude of levels for a number of reasons. | |
| Number one, it's clearly not a right and left issue. | |
| Instead, it is an enduring right and wrong issue that people can come together on. | |
| Any person out there, Democrat or Republican, that believes in family and loves their children, is going to want to see this film and understand it after viewing it. | |
| It also makes a bold statement that community-funded projects that Hollyweird wants no part in can still be financially successful. | |
| And then, on top of that, I talked about this being a movement and not a movie. | |
| So, when this film starts to come out via digital or DVD, what I'm hoping is going to happen is we're going to see a number of screenings at community centers and churches around this country to not only further have awareness of this subject. | |
| You know, one of the most powerful things to me about the movie was during the end of it, just before they roll the credits, they show you the actual operation. | |
| They show you the actual villains that the actors are based on. | |
| And it hits it home just that much more. | |
| I think things like that get people out into the streets. | |
| They get them more active once they become aware. | |
| And it makes us more apt to be able to fight the evil that is really just purveying our society every day, John. | |
| Yeah, I agree. | |
| Well said, Holly Weird. | |
| I like that. | |
| But you're right. | |
| It's right and wrong, not right and left. | |
| Those are great soundbites and totally true. | |
| And this is where we unite. | |
| You know, the word that comes to my mind in my sleep these days is unity, unite. | |
| And that's really what the world is beginning to do. | |
| And any opportunity that I have to credit President Donald Trump for uniting the world, not dividing the world, for raising the issues of darkness and bringing it into the light. | |
| It's Donald Trump and we the people, you, all the influencers, all the patriots listening to this broadcast right now that are doing something. | |
| It's all of us. | |
| It is a collective effort. | |
| The pecking order is very simple in John Chambers' mind, very simple. | |
| God, Trump, the White Hats, and we the Patriots, that's how we're going to save America. | |
| That's how we're going to redirect humanity on this course correction. | |
| Now, we focus a lot here in America because, as the world well knows, and those listening know, you lose America and you don't regain it, it's over for the rest of the world. | |
| And the world knows that. | |
| So, we are front and center, as we've always been throughout history, and we're going to win this. | |
| As Jeff Prather, one of our show hosts, Major Jeffrey Prather, talks about the battles that we won-you know, all the historic battles and wars that we have fought. | |
| We ultimately won all those. | |
| We're going to win this one. | |
| But, folks, the other reason I'm doing this show is because we've got to stay together. | |
| We've got to unite. | |
| I know from listening to folks when I get out there, you know, some of the division that's been created, the impact of the COVID setback on all of us, and so forth and so on. | |
| We're at war, and we need to support and help each other. | |
| And that's what I intend to do on this show, even if I can just answer a simple question. | |
| I want to also get this in before you wrap the segment up, Jason, is that I'm going to bring Juano Savin on not on camera, of course, and not in the normal way. | |
| So, folks who are listening to me right now, come check out the show. | |
| You're going to hear from Juano Savin and see him in a very unique light for the way I have this structure. | |
| I have a good relationship with Juan, and he's going to drop some high-level five-minute segment because the show is only 30 minutes long, and I've got a lot I want to get across. | |
| But I'm going to have five minutes of audio with Juan that I can tell you after my three and a half hours yesterday, you're going to find it challenging for some. | |
| And that's what I want to do. | |
| I want to push us out of comfort zones safely. | |
| And Juan is going to help us with that. | |
| So, I really encourage everyone to join me first Friday of each month, beginning Friday, August 4th. | |
| 40,000-foot view engaging conversations is the title of the show. | |
| It's just going to be a sit-down narrative. | |
| I'm going to have a conversation with you in your home, and I intend to provide a lot of value and calm the nerves, keep us together, and move us forward. | |
| Well, John, we're looking forward to it. | |
| The 40,000-foot view engaging conversations coming to AMP News this Friday, August 4th. | |
| We've got to take a break, but when we come back, we're going to keep making sense of the madness. | |
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| We are back, and I have to say, it has been a joy to watch the victory of an awakening of so many people across this country and the world with the triumph that is Sound of Freedom now becoming a $100 million plus winner at the box office despite the demonization. | |
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| And it's because of people like our upcoming guests, Basil and Tina Bays, that this awareness has taken hold. | |
| And they've spent a long period of their lives with ARC, the Association for the Recovery of Children, saving kids from human trafficking, a very, very real issue. | |
| And it's my pleasure to introduce them right now. | |
| They're going to be speaking at the America's Future Conference coming up August 17th. | |
| You can go to AmericasFuture.net to find out all about it. | |
| I guess let's start with your journey into this field. | |
| Why did you decide to get involved in stopping human trafficking? | |
| Well, it started for us in 1993, which probably makes us one of the oldest child rescue organizations in America. | |
| An operation in Mogadishu, Somalia, we rescued some kids during my time in the agency when we got back to the United States. | |
| We took a look, and about that time, there were 250,000 children claimed to be missing in the United States, but there wasn't really anything being done about it. | |
| They were just crossed off the board by most of the agencies. | |
| And in that time, you know, it just figured that there was something bigger than over so many small governments, and it had to be the future of our America. | |
| You know, that decision didn't really change my life. | |
| It more so extended my life to make me realize that there was more to do when it came to securing the freedom of Americans that our founding fathers actually fought for. | |
| Our children were actually being enslaved through everything from pornography to child sex trafficking, satanic cults, and the list went on and on and on. | |
| So when I decided that, came to grips with the fact that our biggest investment in this nation were our children, because they are the future of our country. | |
| I realized that if we continue to allow our children to be brought up in a dysfunctional environment, they'll grow up to be dysfunctional adults. | |
| And so we began the Association for the Recovery of Children back in 1993, and then I left the CIA in 96 to pursue that full-time. | |
| Tina, Mike, please go ahead and talk about why you got involved in it. | |
| So I came on a little bit later, about 10 years ago, started working with BOS on rescuing children. | |
| I had encountered several juvenile girls who were trafficked. | |
| And at the time, I was just a mom. | |
| I had eight and ten-year-old girls, and I began to see the exploitation that was happening and how these recruitment tactics were warping these girls' minds and basically taking advantage of their needs, the needs that weren't being met in their homes. | |
| And so I asked God, and this is a personal, it was a personal encounter, I said, what should I do about this? | |
| And he said, what is the worst evil in the world? | |
| And my answer was, what keeps me up at night is predators exploiting children. | |
| It's children being damaged, being sexually exploited, and suffering. | |
| And he said to me, Are you going to hide or are you going to fight? | |
| And that was what changed my life. | |
| I began to get involved with BOS and with other people in rescuing juvenile sex trafficking victims. | |
| And there was nothing that could satisfy me after that experience of helping these kids who thought they were lost and finding them and bringing them home and helping them get back on their feet. | |
| After doing this for so many years and really sometimes being ignored or marginalized, how do you feel that this film has really taken the country by storm? | |
| It's not just a movie. | |
| It seems like a movement. | |
| Well, I think that we, for us, we've worked under the radar for so long. | |
| You know, if you ever want to be great at something, you have to get involved with something bigger than yourself. | |
| So this was never anything but a calling for us. | |
| In fact, very much like Tina, when I seen all the ugliness, I asked God the same thing. | |
| I said, you know, why aren't you doing something about this? | |
| And he was very clear when he said, I am. | |
| I created you. | |
| And so this is what we tell people around us. | |
| He is doing something about it. | |
| He created you to get involved in, which brings up the fact, you know, the Florida State Summit that's coming up in August, the 17 is what we're offering to get people involved in all of that so that they can be provided the tools to do something about this issue. | |
| But, you know, we don't, we aren't really speaking to the movie. | |
| I haven't even seen the movie. | |
| I know, Tim. | |
| I know you are. | |
| We're at the 14,000-foot level, just waiting until all the chatter stops, to be honest with you. | |
| Our goal, we are not the overseers of any other NGO, non-government organization. | |
| We're very clear about what God has called us to do, and that's we try to stay in that lane. | |
| But I will say this about the movie: despite what you think about it or not about it, there's a very clear message there, and that is that children are being sex trafficked not all around the world, and most people think it's happening over there, but it's happening right here in America. | |
| And it's just far more sophisticated. | |
| The logistical mechanism for moving those children. | |
| But those who criticize child sex trafficking based on the movie and say, well, this is all inflated so that people can make money about it. | |
| They're diminishing the torture and the pain. | |
| Those children that we see in the trenches that are being trafficked sexually all across America. | |
| And for that, I asked them this one question: Whose side are you really on? | |
| Because the movie isn't about the movie, it's about the message. | |
| And that's the message that we have to look at. | |
| I'd have to agree. | |
| Now, the America's Future Conference is really about taking action. | |
| What are some of the people on the ground level that have now been activated and have become aware of this issue? | |
| What can they do? | |
| I would like to speak to that, if I may. | |
| We have to start at the family, the family level. | |
| Broken families are what creates the groundwork for the trafficker to move in and exploit the things that are lacking in the family. | |
| So I think the first thing we need to do is educate people, educate families on what are the risk factors, what is it that makes kids vulnerable. | |
| So please go to America's Future.net, recoveryofchildren.org, and find out how you can sign up to get into one of these trainings. | |
| But it's very simple. | |
| The recruiters into trafficking, the exploiters, are looking for the vacancy in the family that they can move into and exploit the child. | |
| They're looking for vulnerabilities. | |
| So if the kid does not have parents that are paying attention to them, or they don't have good parental supervision, or the parents aren't involved in their life, they're looking for love and belonging, and they're going to look for it from anyone that provides it. | |
| So it's very easy for a trafficker or a recruiter to come in and just provide that love and belonging that that kid needs or provide physical needs, food, gifts, things they want. | |
| These are major recruitment tools, buying them stuff that the parents won't buy them. | |
| And this develops a bond with the kid that the parent doesn't have. | |
| And pretty soon the trafficker can come in and actually take the child from the family. | |
| It's so disturbing. | |
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| Children hold the promise and dreams of America. | |
| It's their world, not ours. | |
| Yet precious lives are in danger from child predators and traffickers, and not a whisper is heard. | |
| This must end. | |
| You can help. | |
| Get in the fight. | |
| Let's end child exploitation and trafficking. | |
| The time to strike is now. | |
| August 17th, it's the Florida State Summit. | |
| And what I really like about this is that it's not just a bunch of speakers. | |
| It's going to be extremely interactive in how you can get involved. | |
| And one of those speakers is Tara Lee Rodas. | |
| She's been on the program. | |
| And this is a woman who spent 17 years in government. | |
| And she gets sent on a HHS mission where she discovers in a couple of weeks that, yes, a lot of these children are being trafficked for both sex and work in this country. | |
| You alluded to the problem that's been going on in this country for some time. | |
| Can you elaborate on how widespread the trafficking, especially of children, is in the United States? | |
| Yeah, we would gladly do that. | |
| One of the great blessings of being with America's Future on that is they've realized that saving the life of one child may not change the world, but for that one child, their entire world will change. | |
| And because of that, this conference and everything they're doing is about going to a grassroots level and a community level simply because we are operating in a broken judicial and government system right now. | |
| In fact, I will be as bold based on the evidence and things we have seen to say that this government and this current administration is complicit in many of those crimes. | |
| We're running operations now, you know, to discover where all these children are going. | |
| And nobody from up in the White House is getting answers to that. | |
| So the level of the evidence that we have on the level of corruption throughout the nation, whether it's a three-letter agency, whether it's a corporation, whether it's a church, whether it's an institution, whatever it may be, is unlike anything we have seen in the history of our nation. | |
| The boldness that they have when it comes to committing crimes against children is just mind-boggling. | |
| And the reason they can be so bold is because everybody is on their payroll. | |
| When President Trump talked about training the swamp, man, I'm going to tell you what, the swamp still stinks, to be honest with you. | |
| So America's Future, and we're glad to be a part of all of that, is tackling that from a different direction. | |
| Because if we can remember the Constitution, and it says we the people, if the people realize the government doesn't rule them, the people realize that the only way they're going to save their community and their children from these type of evils is they have to get involved. | |
| They don't need permission from the federal government to do something about that. | |
| So America's Future, including ourselves, encourage people in our country to send a message to your community leaders that basically says, this is not going to happen on my watch. | |
| And if you don't get on board with this, and if you don't help us save our children, we're going to do everything within our power to make sure you never serve in a leadership position again. | |
| So, this is about empowering the communities to take their rightful place as the Americans they were meant to be. | |
| They're going to get trained up and do something about it. | |
| And one of the ways they can do that is get involved with who their sheriff is. | |
| You know, one of the people that I often go to is the sheriff in Broward County down in Florida, who every few months is holding press conferences on the people that he's busting for child exploitation, pornography, and trafficking. | |
| And all you have to do is a simple internet search. | |
| And you see that this is happening throughout the country. | |
| You know, one of the aspects that is moving this industry is, in fact, organized crime gangs. | |
| Tina, can you tell us how that works? | |
| Yes, in fact, and we can share more details about this in the trainings, of course. | |
| But yes, there is an infiltration of a trafficking system. | |
| It is an underground sex trade. | |
| It is controlled, directed, very sophisticated methods by the criminal. | |
| The criminal enterprise is in the form led mostly by cartels who are actually working for people with money. | |
| But yeah, cartels have basically been working with the gang structures in the United States. | |
| Every criminal enterprise seems to be coming together and connecting in child trafficking because it's so lucrative. | |
| And unfortunately, the United States is the biggest buyer of illegal sex. | |
| It's the biggest buyer of pornography, child pornography. | |
| So where there is money, you're going to draw the criminal enterprise, and they're all here. | |
| So I would say all the criminal elements are working together on this, and it's tragic. | |
| They are in every town. | |
| They are in every. | |
| I talked to a law enforcement officer who had done a bust of an MS-13 member in a town of 500 people. | |
| So I would think that if you don't know that there's criminal enterprise in your town, you need to open your eyes a little bit and realize that it is there. | |
| What would you say to some of the people, some of the victims that are trying to get out of this? | |
| What can they do as a young person or a teenager or even somebody in their 20s that's been involved in this since they can remember? | |
| It begins with the belief system in their mind. | |
| They need to believe that they can get out. | |
| The biggest thing we deal with is victims who don't believe that they can be anything else. | |
| They don't believe that they can recover. | |
| So the first thing is switch your mind and realize that you can. | |
| And then who you've been told not to trust, trust. | |
| Trust law enforcement. | |
| Trust your school teacher. | |
| Trust any adult that you have exposure to or an ear with, even a stranger on the street, and just say, I need help. | |
| But the biggest thing is believe that you can and never stop trying. | |
| I tell kids, never stop trying to get out. | |
| Never stop trying to get home because your parents and we will never stop trying to get to you. | |
| So believe that you can and reach out. | |
| Take that bold move to reach out and tell someone you need help. | |
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| Now, earlier you discussed the swamp and how it still stinks. | |
| This organization has been around since 1993. | |
| What are some of the most egregious examples of law enforcement, whatever the agency might be, not only ignoring but maybe being incomplicit that you've seen of some of this trafficking? | |
| Yeah, across the board since 93, we've seen a lot of that. | |
| I think that's safe to say that most organizations can be compartmented. | |
| It is not that all people in those organizations are bad, but oftentimes, what we have seen in three-letter agencies, or sometimes we've had those closed-doors conversations with our law enforcement partners and basically tried to say, Look, you got to hold your people accountable. | |
| You know, you can't cover up these things. | |
| We haven't had one child that we've rescued since 1996 that hasn't had a law enforcement officer as a client that has not been prostituted to a law enforcement officer. | |
| It shouldn't be that way. | |
| But at the same time, it's just not law enforcement. | |
| We've got churches that we're running investigations on who have been molesting children for years. | |
| We've got the Vatican, we've got corporations, we've got government, we've got senators. | |
| It's just across the board. | |
| So we've had an opportunity to actually look inside quite a number of organizations and see that the corruption exists there. | |
| The problem that we have across America is this: we are an oversexualized society, a society that doesn't really care for its unborn. | |
| So, how can we expect them to care for children that are being trafficked? | |
| A society that believes that you should legalize pedophilia. | |
| Organizations that say, Let's call them minor attracted persons and let them be legalized. | |
| And we have senators that are in favor of that. | |
| And I think the reason being is because when you go behind the veil, you realize that they're poking little kids. | |
| And if they get caught, they're going to go to jail for it. | |
| And they don't want to go to jail for it. | |
| So, in America, we believe if we discover something, something is being done about it just because we're aware. | |
| But that is not the case in our society. | |
| So, we have to come up with a better system of holding people accountable for these crimes, just like quite honestly, just like Governor DeSantis just did in Florida. | |
| You know, we've been pushing that legislative agenda for years. | |
| We even got a chance to take it up to the White House when President Trump was there. | |
| And yes, we fully agree: if you molest a child, you should get the death penalty. | |
| And the reason being is because every predator that we have talked to, whether behind bar, generally behind bars, or a sex offender that has served time, has said, I should be imprisoned. | |
| I'm going to do this again. | |
| And in fact, if I thought I had gotten the death penalty, it probably would have deterred me from ever doing this again. | |
| But as it is now, I got seven and I was out in three. | |
| So our system has really been over backwards, and we've got to change how we do things, and we've got to hold people accountable for that. | |
| I agree. | |
| And I think it's abhorrent that we have such lax laws on child abusers or people that are caught with child pornography. | |
| I think it's inbuilt because of the aspects that you talked about with people high in industry, high in the church, high in Hollyweird, high in government that are actually partaking in these things. | |
| And we only look to things like the Franklin scandal or even more recently, the Epstein scandal to see how blackmail is involved in that. | |
| We got to take one more break when we come back. | |
| I want to talk more about this upcoming conference. | |
| It's making sense in the madness. | |
| We'll be back after this. | |
| America's Future.net. | |
| check it out. | |
| We are back. | |
| It's making sense of the madness. | |
| We are joined behind those behind the Association for the Recovery of Children, an organization that has been around since 1993. | |
| And one of the aspects we have to talk about is the fact that those that are pushing this minor attracted persons agenda, those that are pushing the Hollyweird agenda or the government agenda of keeping these people out of prison, seem to have an unlimited amount of resources and funds. | |
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| And obviously, for an organization like you to exist, you need money. | |
| And it's hard to get those funds. | |
| How can people support you guys? | |
| Tina, please. | |
| You can go to recoveryofchildren.org. | |
| There's a donate button there. | |
| We don't do a lot of galas and fundraising events like a lot of organizations do. | |
| We work largely undercover. | |
| So that's a little bit of our struggle because we don't want to come out and we don't want to put out documentaries showing real victims and real stories. | |
| So we do rely heavily on just individual donors going and making this part of their contribution on a regular basis to be involved in donating to recovered children. | |
| So recoveryofchildren.org has a donate button there. | |
| There's also recoveryofchildren.com where you can go to find out more about the training courses. | |
| Our training courses also help to fund our rescue operations. | |
| So the training courses, is that something that you're going to be discussing at America's Future? | |
| We will. | |
| We have a six-day course. | |
| I'll let Boz talk more about that. | |
| But the six-day course is comprehensive. | |
| It is the A to Z of how not only learning what the criminal enterprise is, we have a whole day on what are the methods of intervention, of prevention, and of directly fighting the sex trafficking elements. | |
| We have a whole two days on victimology. | |
| One day is all about how victims become vulnerable. | |
| What is the breakdown? | |
| Who are the most vulnerable? | |
| How do we get ahead of this problem and intervene with kids before they're exploited? | |
| And then we talk about prevention. | |
| And the next day we talk about how to deal with trauma, how to deal with a traumatized victim, how to actually conduct rescues. | |
| And then, Boz, why don't you talk about what we do as far as training for operations? | |
| Sure. | |
| So it's not an awareness course. | |
| It's an equipping course. | |
| And it teaches you everything about what we call the AO, Jason, the area of operation. | |
| We get a lot of people wanting to join up with our organization or wanting to get in this fight, particularly after the movie. | |
| And what we tell them is like, understand the AO, and then you'll know where you fit in. | |
| Now, in addition to this, we're at a time in our country where people realize not enough's being done. | |
| And so, while we would like to leave that responsibility in the hands of everybody else, people are saying, no, I want to do something. | |
| And what can I do as an American? | |
| And this is what we teach you. | |
| And we teach you how to run operations legally and how to actually go in and rescue a child, whether that's with a police community partnership, sometimes whether it's by yourself, it's understanding what you can do to get that targeting package together to enhance the efforts of law enforcement, and/or many times go in and rescue a child on your own. | |
| And sometimes we get criticized for that, but let me speak to that. | |
| There are a lot of people that come to our courses, whether they're active law enforcement, former law enforcement, tier one operators, people that sometimes have far more experience than those people out there that are supposed to be doing this. | |
| So I always say, well, where is it written that the people of America can't save their community? | |
| Where is it written that this criminal thing, this evil, is to be left in the hands of this organization or that organization? | |
| Show me that. | |
| And they can't. | |
| You know why? | |
| Because it's an American problem. | |
| And Americans have the right to save their children, and nobody should get in the way. | |
| Nobody's ego should be so big that you go, that's our job. | |
| We're supposed to do that. | |
| Stay out of the way. | |
| No, that's not the way it is anymore in our country. | |
| Because if Americans don't get involved, if they don't get trained on how to exercise their rights and how to go save children, children will not be saved. | |
| If we do not, the question is, who will? | |
| Well, what's really frightening is that we now have a weaponized justice department that is going after parents and family members that just dare to speak up at their board meetings because they don't want their children overly sexualized. | |
| And what's a very real agenda to normalize not only this transsexual movement, but like you said, pedophilia itself. | |
| It's frightening. | |
| But instead of being silent, I think that we have to raise our voices even louder. | |
| Parents are needed to get involved in confronting the agenda of society. | |
| The agenda of society is to sexualize it. | |
| I can't put it any other way, except that we're exploiting the U.S. is known for individual freedom. | |
| And what we're doing is expanding individual freedom to include things that should be crimes. | |
| And we're saying basically that these predators have the right to exploit children. | |
| And nobody is speaking for the rights of the children. | |
| And I think parents need to get involved and teach their kids that there is extreme lifelong damage to being sexually promiscuous, especially at a young age. | |
| If we don't go in there and tell them that that is not love and that is not belonging, then the counterfeit, the counterfeit is that sexual behavior is intimacy. | |
| And that is not it. | |
| It's actually super destructive. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Also, Jason, one of the things I'd like to speak to quickly is we have crazy stuff like with Gavin Newsom, the governor of California, letting 1,800 sex offenders out of prison, right? | |
| You know what should be done with that, I think, is that if he's responsible for letting those sex offenders out and they commit a crime again, he should be held accountable for that. | |
| If they're going to go back to prison, he should go back to prison. | |
| And when you set those type of laws in place, it makes people really think about their decision when they do stupid stuff like that. | |
| And I think that we should look legislatively. | |
| And when we talk about the laws, I think we have to look at that kind of thing as well, holding people accountable, which I've mentioned over and over here in this talk. | |
| Well, I agree with you. | |
| Accountability is what we're lacking. | |
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| And the real scary thing about Newsom is there seems to be this movement to put him in charge. | |
| It almost seems like he's running for president or something and maybe installed down the line. | |
| That would be a nightmare that we may have to confront down the line. | |
| Guys, I want to thank you so much. | |
| One more time. | |
| Where can they find your stuff and how can they see you on August 17th at the Florida Summit? | |
| Yes, so go to AmericasFuture.net. | |
| There are actually several different training courses, but the summit is going to be August 17th, Thursday evening from 6:30 to 8:30. | |
| You can register right online. | |
| All right, guys, thank you so much. | |
| This has been Making Sense of the Madness, another Jam-Packed Show. | |
| I want to thank you guys for being with us. | |