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Americas Future Shines Light On The Shadows | MSOM Ep. 795

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America's Foundation 00:15:03
Welcome to Making Sense of the Madness.
I am Jason Burmese and today we've got a banger of a show for you.
We're going to be talking about America's future with documentary filmmaker and former stuntman Mike Smith, as well as everything Trump 2024, RFK Jr., even Steve Forbes, with Chris Paul, Buckle up and get ready to make sense of the madness.
Children hold the promise and dreams of America.
It's their world, not ours.
Yet precious lives are in danger from child predators and traffickers, and not a whisper is heard.
This must end.
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Get in the fight.
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The time to strike is now.
And I do believe the time to strike is now, especially with Sound of Freedom taking the country by storm, still being marginalized and demonized by the mainstream media.
But that's why we need to combat it on every level.
And that's why I am pleased to bring in Mike Smith, who is actually working with America's Future, to discuss how they're taking it to a ground level for those that want to get involved, need to get involved.
And we can use films like this and even films like Mike's, the documentary film Out of the Shadows, to do so.
So Mike, thank you so much for joining us.
Can you tell us how you got involved in America's future?
Well, I looked at a lot of the things that they were doing and the way they were aligning and their belief systems and the things that were that General Flynn and his team have been working towards and for.
And I just, as an American, as a as a person who values freedom and liberty and all the all the cliché things that we believe in in America, I wanted to get involved and I didn't really know how to get involved early in my awakening, I guess.
And I guess I got involved after, you know, I decided, well, what could I do to do my part?
And, you know, I'm only really trained to do one thing and that's make movies or make films.
That's because that's all I've done my whole life or my adult life.
And so I made the choice to make out of shadows.
And that from that movie's success and for the impact that it had, it opened a lot of doors that I never thought would be possible to open.
And I'll be honest, being asked to be on the board of America's Future is a very big honor to me.
And I don't take that lightly.
I know that in order for us to save this nation, for us to secure a future for our grandchildren, we have to get involved, get uncomfortable, do things that are not easy to do, things that are going to probably get you persecuted or at least feel the resistance from.
And I just made the choice.
I felt like if I don't do this, then who else is going to do it?
And so I made a choice to make out of shadows and to stand up and to say what I believe.
And, you know, of course, I got persecuted and called everything under the sun conspiracy theorists, you know, whatever, whatever.
And I just, you know, to me, it was like, look, you can just throw a label on someone or you can go look at what they're actually saying or doing.
And, you know, I mean, look, we have a choice to make right now in this nation.
And the choice is, do you believe in the constitutional republic that this nation was founded upon?
Or do you believe in globalism?
Or do you believe in a world that is run by a central government?
And that's not the way that I want my kids and my grandkids to grow up.
And if men like me and women like Lara and Mary and all the other wonderful people on the board at America's Future don't do what we do, who's going to do it?
Well, that's the point, right?
We need people to step up.
And I'm so glad that you referred to us as a constitutional republic because that's what sets in place checks and balances.
And we've gotten so far away from that and accountability.
You guys are holding a summit on the 17th of August.
Tell people about that.
Yeah, this is going to be great.
If you guys want to get involved, now remember, America's Future has many areas that we work in.
We work in, you know, legal, and then there's the different areas in the border, different areas in your local communities, and different areas in human and child trafficking.
So, you know, this organization, we are trying to reestablish, or at least in my perspective, what I'm trying to do with the organization is reestablish the fundamental principles that this nation was founded on, the Judeo-Christian fundamentals that this nation is founded upon.
And that's why we're holding this summit, because a lot of times people go, well, I don't know what to do.
What do I do?
Where do I get started?
Well, America's Future is a great place to get started because if you're looking for programs in your area, we can at least send you to or give you more information about what you can do in your own area.
And if you want to start a group in your area, we have programs that will help you with that.
And I think this is a grassroots campaign that's really picking up speed.
We're really gaining a lot of momentum.
People are really realizing that we've all been lied to.
I don't care what side you sit on, like left or right.
It doesn't matter.
We've all been deceived.
We've all been lied to.
And until we understand that and until you can see it, then you're not going to be able to know how to fight.
And so by finding a grassroots organization, I mean, America's Future is one of the oldest nonprofits in the United States of America.
It's a very historic organization.
And to be asked to be on the board, I was just honored.
And I'm like, I'll do whatever I can do to help this fight.
Well, I got to tell you, one of the main things that is extremely important, one of the first steps people have to take is stop looking to somebody else.
So now if you're unsure of what to do or how to do it, this is a great mechanism or vehicle to get you started down that path because we can't look to somebody with a Superman cape to fly up and beat up all the evil men.
Evil's going to exist.
The question is: Are we going to expose it, stand up to it, and defeat it at every level?
Because it's never going to stop.
That's the bottom line.
So, to identify what you can do in your community, whether it be involved in your school boards or in your local city council, those are great ways to start, or get behind a candidate that's not just in it to be some loser politician with talking points and get kickbacks, but somebody who does want to reinstate the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, stand up for those issues on either side.
You know, that's why I'm very encouraged by RFK Jr. and what's been happening with him and the outright pushback that we've seen not only by mainline Democrats, but the establishment media in censoring him.
And that's why it's so important for people to get involved, Mike.
I love what RFK Jr. is doing, and I love how you it's so obvious to me.
And this is what I think people are seeing it now.
Either you are a constitutionalist and you stand for what this republic is found upon, or you're a communist, or you're globalists, or whatever you want to call it, Marxist, Leninist.
You are one or the other.
It's not Republican or Democrat.
It's not.
It's about a group of people that have an ideology that they want to totally take over every aspect of our lives in the world.
Or we stand on what this nation was founded upon.
We stand on what our founding fathers knew would happen.
And then it's not going to be easy, but we have to legally walk through.
And if and if people don't understand that it's, it's, I think there's a quote from Plato: the indifference of good men in political affairs is to be ruled by evil men.
And that's if you don't care and you don't get involved and you don't step up, then whatever happens to you, that's your fault because you didn't care.
You didn't get involved.
You didn't want to make a difference.
You just said, oh, I'll let somebody else do it.
And you know what?
One thing about it is, you know, from my past, I know if I'm not looking out for me and taking care of myself, who's going to do that?
And I think that a lot of people think that by going along with it, they're keeping themselves safe, but that's cognitive dissonance.
The truth is, if you were really looking out for number one, you'd be looking out for everybody else too, because that affects you.
That's where we get our empathy for our fellow man.
That's in built to us.
And it feels bad when we don't do anything.
And you suppress that because it's going to be easier if you just shut your mouth.
I can promise you that is not the case.
And I fully agree with you there.
Whether you call it communism or socialism, whatever it is, it's collectivism.
And it's not the kind of benevolent collectivism they want you to believe.
No, it's a means to an end where you have a predator class at the top who believe they should rule because of this social Darwinist ideology.
And now they are trying to practice a techno-Malthusianism on the rest of us and essentially create their great narrative, which can no longer be questioned because the AI says so.
And that's where we're at right now.
That's where we need to combat all of this stuff.
I think I've been working on, and we'll talk about it, I'm sure, later in the show, but I've been working on something for the past three years that is going to address a lot of this.
And it's coming out.
Right?
Because right now, a lot of people are falling for false prophets, my friend.
You know, you look at somebody like Elon Musk, he changed Twitter to X Today.
That's the everything app.
I mean, you put, you shave his head, you put some glasses on him, and you age him about 40 years.
He's Klaus Nutschwab.
It's the same thing.
Human brain interfaces, green technology, rockets in space.
Oh, he's giving us freedom of speech on Twitter.
For how long?
You're still buying it.
You still got to buy that blue child.
All I know is this every time I have any, how do I say this?
I just check back in with God.
I check back in with Christ.
I check back in with, does this feel right?
Is this of you?
And that's how I center myself on all this because, you know, you can, with AI and with media manipulation, social media manipulation, I can make or they can make anybody believe anything they want them to believe.
And that's the problem.
And so to me, I root this back to God.
If like, I know what I know in my spirit, I know when it's real and I know when it's, when it's false.
And that's just whether you call that the Holy Spirit or you call that whatever you want to call it.
It's the way I check in to my reality each day because I don't, I think you can get caught up in what you were saying.
There's a lot of distractions, a lot of like shifting the shell game and like look over here, over here and over here and don't look over here.
And then they move us a certain direction.
And that's what I think, I think enough people are waking up now to say, wait a minute, I don't care what you put in my feet.
I don't care what you're seeing.
I know you guys are lying to us.
And I know that you guys are, you have a different agenda.
And whether you go along with it or you don't go along with it, they're going along with it.
And there's enough people in power to make it happen.
If we don't stand up right now and say, no, we're still the majority, whether you want to believe it or not, the people are still the majority.
And I don't care if you're on the left or the right, we aren't that far apart.
The people on the left and the people on the right are not that far apart.
There's a lot of people that still love this nation and still love each other and need to come together.
And I just want to do my part as you were doing your part.
And with this great show and all the great things that you've done, I mean, it takes people to stand up and have courage because courage is contagious.
You don't know who you're going to inspire, who you're going to help if you just have courage.
Absolutely.
America's Future.net is the website where you can get involved.
We've got to take a quick break when we come back.
I really want to talk about your journey into this whole arena.
We are with Mike Smith of Out of the Shadows and America's Future.
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call kirk elliott phd at 720-605-3900 we are joined by mike smith Mike, I want to take you back because you started as an athlete and then you're a big-time stunt man in Hollyweird.
And then you make this movie, you know, after this whole incident.
But what I want to talk about is while you're in Hollywood and you're on these film sets, what is the first kind of inclination or spark maybe that you may get involved later in combating human trafficking and especially child trafficking?
You know, I don't, that's a that's a tough question to ask, answer, actually.
Um, I think it was not, I think it was a it was a lot of things over a long career.
Because as you know, Hollywood is a very, there's things get made or things happen or things you know happen in Hollywood, and there's a lot of organic components to that.
Like, so it's hard to say that there was one thing that made me go, oh, this is something I need to, this is, you know, I got to go do that.
Because that's not kind of what happened.
It was more like, it was like my journey.
That's a great question because actually, no one's ever asked me that.
I think what it is, or if I had to really think about it, it was just watching the business for 30 years from a lot of different perspectives.
Because as you mentioned, I was a stuntman early in my career.
And I think I loved being a stuntman.
It was the funnest job you could ever have.
I got to go around the world and see things and do things and be a part of movies.
And just, that was a great job.
And then I was like, well, you know, I really want to be a little more creative.
So I really like fighting.
So I'll be a fight coordinator.
And so I got into being a fight coordinator.
And I was like, wow, you know, this is a great job.
But I really, you know, if I was going to want to set things up the way I would do it, I'd set it up as like a, I think I need to be a stunt coordinator.
So then over the years, I became a stunt coordinator.
And then out of kind of just frustration, I guess creatively, I'm sorry, I'm getting a ton of messages.
Out of frustration, I was like, well, in order to control this or to be able to have more creative input, I need to be a director.
So I said, well, I'll be an action director.
So I became, you know, an action director.
And then through action direction, I was like, well, I really want to tell the story.
And that's when the writing came.
And so I spent a long time in my career writing for many years, you know, behind the scenes.
And I guess that was because in Hollywood, there's a thing called above the line and below the line.
And so when you're above the line, that's your writers, producers, big actors, and directors.
Below the line are your crew members, like your production designers and director photographers and directors of photography and say, you know, your crew, everybody, like from the teamsters to the electricians to the stunt performers, flex technicians, that's below the line.
And so you don't really get a lot of, you get some creative input in kind of in your lane, but the creative choices of what narratives are being made or stories are being told are all made above the line.
So until you transition up there, you don't really have any control over content.
So that's where I started seeing, I guess if I was seeing that there was some weird stuff going on, it was once I started transitioning into above the line.
And I was like, okay, well, you know, because you'd see different projects get green light, green lit, or you'd see different projects that you thought were really good and had really good potential, just get it completely ignored.
And I guess through frustration of, I don't know, I just say creative input or creative control is when I finally was like, okay, there's a club and there's a group of people that control all this.
And unless you're in the club, so to speak, you don't get to put your content out there.
Well, what I've came to find out was that'll never happen even if you're in the club because there's certain groups of people that control everything.
And that's just the way it's been since it was set up.
And that's how it is.
And to me, you know, I mean, you can say whatever you want to say, but it, but I got, I mean, I'm someone when I feel like I've been lied to, I get pissed off.
Disney's Exclusive Club 00:15:11
And or I feel like, you know, this is not fair.
Then I want to do something about it.
Like, you know, I don't mind, you know, like, I don't mind fighting, though, punch you in the face.
It doesn't, like, whatever.
You beat me up, beat me up.
But I'm not, I'm not afraid to stand up and say what I, what I got to say.
Well, I think it's important not only that that's the attitude, right?
Because I don't like being treated like a child either.
Santa Claus isn't real.
You're not my mommy or daddy.
There's no reason to lie to me.
Okay.
Unless you're involved in nefarious activity.
And, you know, you talk about kind of these controllers or these people that are at the top.
And one of the things I really enjoyed about your film Out of the Shadows was you pointing out of shadows.
I'm sorry.
Out of shadows.
Out of shadows.
Yeah.
Out of shadows.
Because that's on the search engines.
If you still try to search it to this day, even Messenger, you can't share outofshadows.org.
You can't.
It's the craziest thing.
Yeah, you got to love those bands.
You know, they don't want things going mega viral.
You were able to actually make that go mega viral.
But again, one of the things that interested me was the relationship between the central intelligence agency and getting Disney their land.
And especially in today's culture, where Disney, whether you like it or not, owns just about every huge pop culture iconic property out there from The Simpsons to the Marvel films to Star Wars itself.
So just in that basis, forget about all the Disneys.
I didn't even bring up the mouse.
I didn't bring up the relationship with Pixar.
All that stuff is there.
But they are a Leviathan in the narrative from the Mickey Mouse Club when I was a kid to their influence in even adult pictures via Mirror Max.
They don't talk about that.
The Harvey Weinstein thing, you know, the adult Disney that's been around for decades.
They've shaped a lot of the narrative.
And I think that it would be ignorant of us to think that the Central Intelligence Agency just ended their relationship after they got them that landmass mic.
Well, here's the great thing.
Like, I don't even have to answer that question because the answer is if you just go spend any time by yourself, Doug Doug Go or go look into stuff, you, the audience, can go figure that out.
I mean, that was, I mean, it makes perfect sense.
If you want to influence the culture during the beginning of the revolutionary film, you know, development period, what would be the smartest thing to do?
Own it.
Own all of the messaging.
And so, what do you need to make it real?
Well, I mean, what if there's a place you could go that emulated the things that you saw and reminded you of, and then it imprints in your mind and it programs you.
And that's, I mean, I mean, they have it on so many levels.
It's not just Disney, right?
You could talk about the Motion Picture Association of America and its first president, Jack Valente, who had all sorts of intelligence ties, was actually on the plane when they swore Johnson in after the JFK assassination.
There was a great show, and I'm going to go a little deeper into this next project.
But if you go look at, if you go look at like every one of the major studios, almost every original founder of the studio system came from, you know, military communications or military intelligence.
And those are just things you can go look up.
I mean, it's like, well, who is the founder of CBS or NBC or ABC?
Well, you go look it up, and they all came out of a background from the military.
And if you look at the way the studio system is set up, it's set up just like the military.
There's a, I mean, I don't want to get, we'll go off in a rabbit hole here, but no, but I mean, what you're talking about basically is a system of compartmentalization where there's a hierarchy.
And like you were talking about earlier, you know, the DP is there to get the photographs.
You know, that's their job.
They don't need to know much else.
So, you know, they even on a micro level, Hollyweird takes from that kind of Manhattan Project style compartmentalization.
I want to move on just a little bit because we only got a few more minutes in the section.
But number one, America's Future.net, August 17th, people get involved.
That's where you can do it.
Let's talk about this new project.
Well, that's a good segue because we are going to, I've been working for, and this is the first time I'm saying this publicly.
I've been working on a follow-up film to Out of Shadows.
I honestly never thought I was going to make another movie after Out of Shadows, but I felt like there was a section of out of shadows that we never showed anybody because it was too big.
I just kept circling on this question of why are we so divided?
Why are we so distracted in our lives?
And why are we so deceived in our lives?
And that topic, I wanted to put it in out of shadows, but it was too deep.
It was too much at the time.
And I felt like, you know, if there was anything I had left to say, that would kind of be it because it really bothers me about how we're very divided.
We're always being divided, you know, Republican, Democrat, gay, straight, black, blue, green, whatever, everything.
We're constantly being divided on every level.
And that's so that they can message us and keep us in our own feedback loops.
And so I just got to the point where I was like, I felt like God said to me, you know, you need to explain it.
Just explain your perspective because having been in Hollywood for 30 years, I have a perspective of it that's very different than, say, someone who's a lawyer or someone who's a physician.
They know their world and they have a perspective from their world about the world and how it works.
But when you're in the world of messaging or you're in the world of media, I understand how we do what we do to message.
I understand how they shift narratives or get ahead of narratives.
I mean, for me, I understand all this stuff.
But the average American who's working five days a week gets a day Saturday to play with his kids and or, you know, or their kids.
And then on Sunday, they go to church if that's what they do or they rest and then they start over.
And they're in a loop and they only bits of information filter in or is fed to them through AI or through social media or through their friends.
And that's what their realities become.
And that's not necessarily what reality is.
So unless somebody explains it to you, breaks it down.
So this next project is going to be called, the first one was Out of Shadows, and this will be called Into Light, Into the Light.
And we're going to premiere it.
I'm going to be doing the first premiere here in Nashville on August 4th in two weeks.
And then I'll be doing a follow-up screening premiere at our America's Future event in Sarasota the night before on August 16th.
And I think we're going to open that one to the public.
I'm not sure yet.
I'm not sure how that's what's been decided.
But we're going to definitely do that on Wednesday, August 16th, down in Sarasota, the night before our summit.
So you can watch the movie and then the next day go to the summit.
And if you want to get active, everyone tells you all this information, but no one tells you what to do about it.
I get this question all the time.
Hey, Mike, okay, I believe you.
What do I do about it?
The answer I'd say is, what is God telling you to do about it?
What do you feel you should do about it?
Because most people aren't going to do anything about it.
They're going to think about it.
They're going to talk about it.
And then they're just going to forget about it.
And then they're right back in their same place.
Well, I've always got to people.
Well, they have to get active.
And you know, that's one of the reasons that I was a big fan of and at one time a part of We Are Change.
And I think that that is still part of the answer.
If you can't get involved politically, first of all, get your own life straight, right?
Make sure that you and your family are secure financially and that you have a plan in case something happens.
People say something can't happen.
Hey, 2020 through 2023 absolutely happened.
The COVID-19 4 nightmare happened to all of us.
So that's number one.
Number two, you know, if you can put a policy, it used to be that you had to have a little handicamp to put somebody on the spot.
Now you got the magic box everywhere.
You need to find your representatives, okay?
And forget about dunking on a leftist or somebody in a pink hat or a sign you don't like.
Look, there's time for protesting.
I want open discussions because you probably have more in common than you think.
But putting somebody like a plasket on the spot or a Wasserman Schultz on the spot on their tyranny, on their being against freedom of speech, these are all important things.
And hold the other people on the other side accountable when they don't do something you like.
You know, we have to talk about Julian Assange and free speech and the fact that they didn't drop the charges under the Trump administration.
These are important things.
We have to be intellectually honest and we have to be brave enough to take action.
And that's why America's Future.net is so important.
What would you like to leave us with, Mike?
I just want to say, look, you know, freedom's not free.
And everybody that you're going to see in America's future at these summits or at these events, it's not easy to do this stuff.
I mean, people think it's fun all the time, but it's not.
And you know what?
I'm just going to tell you: if you love this nation, you love your family and your community and your friends, get involved.
tell one person something once a day.
Just do something a little more than you normally would do for this nation or for your family or for yourself to get involved in this stuff.
Because if you don't stand up right now, if we don't come together, put down our swords and call for unity.
Look, I've been traveling all over the country the last couple of weeks and I talked to a lot of people on a lot of sides of the fence.
We're not that far apart.
We really aren't.
We just need to have some unity and some, I want to say repentance and forgiveness towards each other and just walk forward together as a nation because this is the greatest nation on earth.
And if we lose this because we're lazy, then that's on our watch.
And I don't want to go out like that.
I refuse to go out like that.
I want to thank you so much.
We've got to take a break.
When we come back, we're going to talk Bidenomics with Chris Paul.
Buckle up and get ready to make sense of the madness.
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Well, I think it's very telling.
A year ago, Joe Biden was calling himself the deficit cutter, the deficit slasher.
This year, it's two and a half times the deficit what it was a year ago.
So much on performance.
He says, we're bringing down inflation, still twice what it was when he came into office.
And those prices are not coming down, just the rate of increase is coming down.
People, credit card debt, where is that?
Record high.
Business investment, not what it should be.
Headwinds overseas.
You look at all that.
I'm amazed they'd go out there and boast that the economy is doing well.
I'm the hero.
What kind of world does he think he's living in?
I just wonder what kind of a messenger he is.
You know, he likes to hit trickle-down economics all the time and hit on it.
And he was talking about his dad yesterday.
Then he said this, and it was in the soundbite we played there.
To what everyone from Financial Times, the Wall Street Journal, has become my change, my different philosophy.
They, I don't think, they started off trying to be complimentary because they started, it just went on and on.
And it was, I think, some people considered it incoherent.
And I ask you, you know, as a commander-in-chief trying to carry an economic message that he wants to impress upon voters, hey, man, you need to give me four more years because it's working.
How effective will he be at that?
Well, that's why he's not going to be the Democratic Party nominee for president 2024 for a variety of reasons.
His performance.
Economy's not doing well.
People feel the institution in this country can't trust anymore.
On both sides, you see that feeling, which is why Robert Kennedy Jr. is getting real traction.
Who would have thought of that a year ago?
And then you have, so you have Hunter.
That's not going away.
You have Biden's performance himself, what you saw there yesterday.
We're going to have four more years of this.
We're going to be lucky to get one more year for that kind of performance.
That's why it's starting to go.
Take him off the stage.
Put him back in the basement.
Put him back in the basement, indeed.
I mean, if you watched anybody who watched any piece of that and says that that man knows what he's talking about or is coherent, is being intellectually dishonest.
To talk about Bidenomics and much more is AMP contributor Chris Paul.
Put Him Back in the Basement 00:04:30
Chris, thanks for joining us.
What do you think?
They rolled the old man out in Philadelphia.
He talked about his winning Bidenomics.
The American public's buying it, right?
Yeah.
No, I don't think that they are.
I'm not sure Barack Obama actually has any room left in the basement for Joe Biden.
Apparently, though, Joe Biden is going to be running his campaign in 2024 from the basement.
They haven't really started a campaign.
They don't really have a campaign set up.
And apparently, the reporting now is that they've got $2 billion so far and they're just going to keep stacking money and hope to pay off enough people to be able to carry Joe Biden over the finish line in what will not be a campaign and will not be an election.
If our recent past is any indication, in terms of Steve Forbes saying that Biden won't be the nominee, I guess that's possible.
It's not going to be Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as much as many Democrats would like that.
And I mean, obviously, I think RFK Jr. is the best candidate for the Democrats, but they're not going to let him win.
They're going to rig and steal that election.
And if it's not for Biden, it'll be for Michelle Obama or Gavin Newsom.
But I have a feeling it'll be for Joe Biden.
They're going to have a hard time getting rid of him.
And when they steal it from RFK Jr., it's going to be, yeah, I don't know, 20, 30%, 40%, 50% of the Democrat Party, which might be 15 or 20% of the nation, perhaps, realizing that our elections are stolen.
So I'm prepared for all this.
I can't wait to watch it unfold.
Well, I think that's an interesting point.
And I hope that you're correct that the stealing, because I don't believe there's any way that they're going to give RFK Jr. the primary electorate.
Let's be honest about that.
And I don't think that they're going to give it to somebody else.
I really think they're going to stick Joe in there, feel like they can rig the election and then remove him sometime shortly after, perhaps before he gets sworn in again or again shortly after.
We'll see.
It's a dark prediction.
I hope it doesn't come true.
But that's where I see these predator class minions going towards.
Now, my only issue is there were a ton of Bernie bros out there 2012, 2016, 2020.
Clearly, they stole the nomination from Bernie in 2016 and 2020, which kind of sets the precedent for what you just said via what they could do with Biden and RFK Jr.
And people didn't get that upset.
It really didn't move that many people.
Now, I will admit that a lot of my friends in the alternative media was their wake-up moment.
My friends over at the Convo couch, my friend Nico House, they were the Bernie guys.
In fact, Nico is one of the people that filed the initial lawsuit saying, hey, they stole this primary.
And yet, that's also marginalized in the media.
Most people are not aware that suit even existed.
And now we're so far past the game, they don't even realize that Bernie was cheated.
How is this going to be different?
Well, I think it's going to be different in a few ways.
And the first is that Bernie never actually stood up for himself.
Bernie took the money and took the houses and he sucked it up and tried to benefit from the establishment as he's been doing for his 60 years in professional communism.
So, you know, I don't feel sorry for that viewpoint.
I'm glad that there were people out there fighting against that theft, but Bernie himself wasn't fighting.
There's no way RFK Jr. is going to roll over and take it from the regime that assassinated his father and his uncle.
I just don't see that as being a possibility.
You know, the other thing is that the Democrats are the ones who have now, you know, really tried to incorporate fully the idea that our elections cannot be stolen.
They have had to tell themselves that every day for the last three years to justify the treatment of Donald J. Trump and his supporters.
And, you know, they, it's sad to say, but they have walked themselves into a hate movement.
They will go with whatever justification works.
So for those people who have committed to this narrative so hard to then see that their guy is going to have it stolen from them and he's not going to take it, well, then they have the choice.
Are they going to stick to this position that they hold now, this anti-Trump position, or are they going to take that?
Are they going to take that and apply that to RFK Jr.?
They Want It To Go Away 00:03:18
I can't see that happening.
So I think that that's going to be another way that it's different.
And the truth is, these people are searching for some sort of catharsis.
They were told that making Donald Trump go away was going to make everything better.
They were going to return to their old normal.
Everyone was going to respect them and say that they were smart again.
No one was going to say the mean things on Twitter.
You know, everything was going to be all better.
And that hasn't happened for these people.
They are still searching for that moment, unwilling to stand up for the truth.
They just want it to go all go away.
It's not going to go away.
And so eventually they're going to have to face it.
I think that's the moment when they will.
And I think we're going to see a different reaction than we saw under Bernie because he just led them right back to the establishment.
Well, all I can say to that is what's Twitter?
It's the XAP, bro.
They changed the icon today.
We got to take a break.
We can talk about that.
Oh, it happened.
He did it.
I mean, it's on the journey.
When we come back, I want to talk a little bit more about RFK Jr. and him recently talking about things worse than death.
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Let me say this.
When I went, I went to Germany, to Berlin, in August of 2020 at the, you know, right when the pandemic was kind of at its height.
And I spoke to a crowd that is estimated 1.3 million people, people from all over Europe who were disturbed by what was happening.
And NBC and none of them were wearing masks.
And NBC crew that was fully masked came up to me during that, just before I went on stage, and they said to me, aren't you scared of COVID?
And I said, there's things that I'm a lot more frightened of.
And they said, like what?
And I said, I'm frightened that my children are going to grow up in America where they don't have the constitutional rights that I did.
And I would remind you all of something you all, every person in this room already knows.
Censorship And Its Red Herrings 00:14:45
There's a lot worse things than dying.
And living like a slave is one of those.
Thank you very, very much.
Powerful words from RFK Jr.
I'm joined by Chris Paul.
Chris, the real question to me is when RFK Jr. is cheated and if and when Donald Trump is cheated, is there a possibility of two independent candidates in the mix?
Yeah, absolutely.
In fact, I think that I am the first person to propose this idea online back in February when RFK Jr.'s campaign was just an early rumor.
You know, I think that RFK Jr. exists to red pill the Uniparty left on climate change, which people don't think he's going to do, but he will do, on vaccines and big pharma, on the corruption of the deep state, and then ultimately on the fact that our elections are stolen.
Your votes do not count.
Your votes do matter.
They just don't count right now.
And that's why I care so much about this issue, because they do matter despite them not counting.
So I think he's going to red pill the Uniparty left on all that.
I did an episode a couple of weeks ago where I said that RFK Jr. is the 2015 Trump for the Uniparty left.
I think he's going to bring a lot of those people back to reality about what's important in this country and that a lot of these issues are red herrings, if not outright hoaxes.
And I think that at that point, if the GOP establishment has the power to steal, to rig and steal the primaries from Trump, then they will do that.
And at that point, Trump and RFK Jr. could potentially combine on a third-party run.
Trump could do it himself and promise to appoint RFK Jr. as an attorney general in his administration or maybe some other role in going after the deep state.
But what I don't think is going to happen is that they will get Biden after stealing the Democrat primary and get Ron DeSantis or someone similar after stealing the Republican primary.
And then we will see a normal election between those two.
There is zero chance in my mind that any of that will happen.
And the idea that anyone on MAGA is going to support Ron DeSantis is utterly insane.
And if the GOP establishment, if the Uniparty right is counting on that happening, they are going to be sadly, sadly mistaken.
Well, they certainly tried to push him, but Ramaswamy, who's saying some things that maybe they don't like, is rising in the polls.
And I don't know that he can't be somewhat compromised.
Again, I've liked his campaign so far, but it's not like I'm betting on anybody in that particular regard.
I like what you said about RFK Jr. and climate change only because of what I've been hearing recently in his response.
Because, you know, this is a guy coming at it from the left, very much talked about climate change his entire career.
But recently, when he's been asked about it, he talks about issues in the environment, which are much more urgent.
And obviously, the one that went viral was him talking about atrazine.
So is that what you're talking about, that he's kind of deflected the issue to what we actually have in our water, in our air, and less concern, not only about a carbon issue, but a carbon tax and the control of the WEF, which he's also spoken out against.
Yeah, well, I think that what we're seeing in general is a move away from the central narrative by people who are capable of thinking independently.
You know, ultimately, there are these things that keep the people on the unit party left on that side of things.
And it's not because they don't want a better America.
Now, they're very confused.
They're very brainwashed by the media and by culture about how to do that, but they still have that desire inside them, right?
So they need to be led away from those bad beliefs when all of culture exists to enforce those bad beliefs, that false dichotomy that divides the right and left.
I don't see this as right and left at all.
This is about sovereign nations and sovereign individuals versus this globalist communist regime.
And all that matters is that we get people on the right side of that divide.
And so that's what's happening.
And if you talk about the hardest views for the people on the left to let go of, you know, the vaccines are a big one, but they didn't have some strong love for vaccines before it became anti-Trump and part of their movement to love vaccines.
A lot of them didn't like vaccines in 2016, 2015.
So they're prepared to go back to that.
And RFK is bringing them back to that.
And after they see what was done to them in regard to the vaccine, they're going to be more open to seeing what's done to them in regard to climate change.
And then in regard to their opinions on abortion and the Second Amendment, and then finally on election fraud.
And Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is going to slowly walk them out of all of these extreme positions that they now hold that are reinforced by society.
He can't do that all at once.
I know everybody would love to have him say all the things that we like all at one time.
But the solution for him not doing that is not to try to destroy him because he has the wrong opinions in our eyes.
We can all agree that his positions, as they are stated, about climate change, about guns, about a range of other issues are not where we want him and not where we want the country.
But the solution to that is to move people along in our direction.
It's not to destroy the one guy who is actually capable of waking them up really fast.
We've got to take a break, but when we come back, I want to talk about the censorship hearing briefly.
And then Trump 2024, how many more indictments can he endure?
Making sense of the madness.
Back after this, we are
back.
It's making sense of the madness, joined by Chris Paul.
And Chris, it was almost a surreal moment for me when the Democrats in unison, led by Debbie Wasserman Schultz, a woman as ugly on the inside as she represents herself on the outside,
tried to censor RFK Jr. for daring to talk about gene-specific bioweapons that have not only been worked on for decades, but are openly used in white papers such as Rebuilding America's Defenses, the pre-9-11 document by the Project for a New American Century.
You know, we've quoted that several times on the show at this point, but no, he's a bigot.
He's an anti-Semite.
He must hate the Chinese.
And because of that, we need to go to executive session and shut him up.
Now, Thomas Massey, who you know I like, stepped right in and said, Hey, let's table this.
And luckily, it was tabled 10 to 8.
But just the fact that you had eight of these people down the line vote for censorship, much of whom want a little political nudge, a diatribe about hate speech and Russian propaganda in there, it turned my stomach upside down, Chris.
Yeah, I mean, this is what I've come to expect from these people, and I'm sure you have as well.
So at this point, it doesn't even bother me.
You know, I judge everything by whether or not I think it promotes the awakening or it hinders the awakening.
And when you see a panel of Democrats vote unanimously to censor someone in the midst of a censorship hearing, I mean, that for me is a dream.
You know, I've said before that I believe that the awakening process is like watching a series of different movie genres.
It starts out as a horror movie.
And then I feel like at some point last year, I reached the black comedy phase.
And at this point, I think it's slapstick comedy.
I think that we are headed toward a rom-com where ultimately everybody is laughing and loving one another.
But this stuff to me is just really, really funny.
So I hope Democrats continue to do this stuff absolutely as often as possible.
They do not have the country.
They do not have the control on the narrative that they require to be able to pull these things off anymore.
And watching them backfire is a great source of joy for me.
It's the dark cartoon, man.
I want to laugh too.
Boy, I'll tell you what.
It is, it's still hard to watch when it actually happens.
And on that level, from an establishment guy, I mean, he's from the Kennedy family.
You know, his opening speech talking about Ted and Oren Hatch, it was just one of those wild moments for a guy like me that's been following this stuff for 20 plus years because we're here.
There's no doubt about it.
Now, the New York Post just recently wrote a story how they feel it doesn't matter how many more indictments come into the Trump arena.
He is bound to get the nomination.
In fact, the more indictments, the more it ensures his nomination.
Now, in a fair world, I might believe them.
Why should I believe them, Chris?
Well, I can't convince anybody that you should.
I think that all trends speak to the fact that there is absolutely no way they will ever get Trump.
They have said the walls are closing in every day for eight years as they have searched for a silver bullet to finally take out this monster.
It's never going to happen.
They don't have anything.
Trump has been announcing his indictments and the steps to his indictments for this entire time.
You know, one of my partners at Badland, Just Human, my friend Kyle, he wrote an article on his sub stack last August, right in the wake of the Mar-a-Lago raid called Templates, describing how Trump is setting down a precedent by which the country will learn the process of indicting a top-level political figure and how that will be brought about so that this can eventually be reversed.
I think that he is exactly right.
Trump continues to lead the narrative on his own political persecution.
The media used to dominate and control this stuff.
They have lost that.
So Trump sent out this announcement about the targeting letter last week for Jack Smith.
They're talking about, this is in the New York Times, talking about indicting him on, you know, three different interpretations of law.
They were talking about defrauding the government.
That is something that everyone who participated in election fraud actually did.
They're talking about obstruction of an official proceeding.
Every person complicit in what happened on January 6th last year.
And I'm not talking about from the Trump side.
I'm talking about from the deep state side, from the Intel and law enforcement side, from the side that completely, I guess, got rid of the opportunity to actually object to the false electors.
Those people obstructed an official proceeding.
And then we have the third approach that the New York Times describes as applying Section 241 of Title 18, which makes it a crime to conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or the laws of the United States.
Now, that applies very broadly.
I would love for the entire country to learn about Section 241.
That would be fantastic in my mind, because the government under this global regime has violated the rights of American citizens countless times, including and especially their collusion with social media to censor Americans in direct violation of their First Amendment.
So I say absolutely bring it on.
There is no way they are getting Trump.
And the harder they go on this, the more they will be setting themselves up for their ultimate fall.
So I am absolutely thrilled about all this.
Keep it going.
I'm just going to say this.
I've never been a walls are closing in guy.
And in the past, I've said there's nothing there.
They're not going to get them.
With the sex thing, I said, ah, it's in New York.
They might find something.
It's only a civil case.
The problem here is, you know, you look at the documents case and so many people were sure, oh, well, it's a Trump appointed judge.
Didn't push back that trial, did they?
They still want these trials during primary season.
So I think there's a problem, obviously, with the January 6th stuff, and that being in DC, you know, Vivek Ramaswamy, one of the few people out there that's even willing to say that, and the headline is it's complicated.
In actuality, he said he's not responsible for it and he shouldn't be charged.
And he would pardon him if he was indeed convicted of those things.
Again, another reason I think they're trying to prop up the Vivek campaign.
I guess we'll see.
We got about a minute left.
Tell people where they can find your stuff, Chris.
Yeah, thanks, man.
You can find everything at linktree.com slash I'm your moderator.
The podcast and the writing are at I'm your moderator.substack.com.
All right.
Thank you so much.
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