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June 28, 2023 - Info Warrior - Jason Bermas
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The Deep State Drives Into 2024 So Let's Be Reasonable MSOM Ep. 775

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To Lose On One Agenda Alone 00:04:24
Welcome to Making Sense of the Madness.
I am Jason Burmese and get ready to dive down the deep state rabbit hole with AMP contributor Chris Paul.
We're going to be talking Trump 2024, RFK Jr., and a whole lot more after this.
Less than 18 months from now, we will be electing the 2024 president.
And we are in unprecedented times.
Let's look at the situation right now.
First of all, you have a former president that is beloved by a large portion of the populace, got more votes the second time around, and somehow wasn't allowed to stay in office amongst one of the most corrupt elections ever to be imposed on a Western society.
Forget just about America.
And now that man is running again, but this time the stakes are a bit higher as criminal charge after criminal charge, including the Espionage Act, have been waged against him.
We don't even have a party nomination yet.
And a lot of people have bumped out there, jumped to conclusions, Matt, and said Trump's going to get the nomination no matter what.
He can be convicted of crimes and pardoned.
Not so fast.
Now, if you've been watching the show over the last couple of weeks, as I've become the regular host, you'll know that sometimes I don't just go with the flow and I'm not a cheerleader.
But I'm not blackpilled either.
I'm a realist.
I believe in this constitutional republic.
I believe that we have to hold people accountable and somehow gain our system of checks and balances back.
And only through doing so will we have free and fair elections and representatives that represent you and I.
So let's start there.
Now, number two, I don't think necessarily if DeSantis does get the nomination, because the new authoritative narrative that you're going to see more and more and more through mainline media and mainstream politicians is that we need new blood in there.
We need somebody who isn't as controversial.
And if they put DeSantis up as the candidate, I assure you, it is there to lose, to lose on one agenda alone.
You may like him on everything else, okay?
And I have my questions about DeSantis, but the trans agenda is going nowhere.
And for that reason and that reason alone, I don't believe they would allow him to win a national election.
So, Lynn, let's go to the other side.
You've got a zombie puppet in office that has already refused to debate the other candidate who is wildly popular, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Now, in my world, I don't know how RFK Jr. could possibly get the Democratic nomination either.
They wouldn't even give it to Bernie Sanders twice.
Twice.
And say what you want about Bernie.
He's a pretty establishment guy, but at the same time, he still couldn't get the nomination.
No, it was old Joey B during the dementia years.
And now you have him officially running for the presidency again.
I believe that right now what we're seeing is a narrative in the works with this Espionage Act, with these documents to eventually have Joe Biden step down before what?
A criminal investigation or impeachment against him, and then to install somebody like a newsom.
Bernie's Fitness Debate 00:02:39
That's the road I believe we're on.
And by the way, there are so many variables out there, including what's going on with Ukraine and Russia, and especially what just happened over the weekend, which I'll be honest with everybody, I'm not sure what just happened over the weekend.
So to make sense of all this madness on the other side is Chris Paul.
Buckle up.
It's going to be a good one.
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I'm not going to touch the bar until I see it stop in more than a second.
Let's go.
Yeah, I'ma go.
Six.
Run it, run it, run it, run it, run it, run it.
Let's go, let's go, let's go.
Up, up, up, up, up, up, up.
Beefcake!
What else can you say about that?
Eat your heart out, Putin topless on a horse.
That man's 69 years old.
Hard not to get behind a guy who's out there telling more truth, opening more minds, and being censored now more than ever, at least on the Democratic side to talk about it is the host of the Be Reasonable podcast and AMP contributor, Chris Paul.
Machines And Malfeasance 00:15:36
Chris, what do you think?
The guy's putting him up.
I think that's about, that looked like about 115 on Incline Press.
That's not too bad.
You got to hand it to him.
69 years old, if you're still bringing it like that, that's good.
Glad to see that.
Now, I don't think that lifting weights is going to make him the president, but I think it's good that he's doing it.
It's certainly showing a lot more life than Joe Biden is capable of doing, no matter how many times they have him kind of jog up the stairs before figuring out where his little markers are on the floor, where he needs to stand, where he needs to depart.
Yeah, I think Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is going to have him on the physical fitness and mental fitness levels, but that's, you know, not saying a whole lot.
It's not.
And obviously, there is no reason for Joe Biden to debate this guy.
They've said there's not going to be any debates, any nomination process other than giving Biden the nomination.
So, what is the reality of this campaign, right?
I mean, we'll get to Trump in a moment, but on the Democratic end, we're less than 18 months out.
It appears they're going to allow Biden to run again on this Kamala Embarrass ticket.
At the same time, you have Gavin Newsom and his wife doing this PR campaign.
I see some type of a bait and switch.
What are your thoughts?
Yeah, I think that you're headed down the right path.
I mean, there's obviously something going on between the Uniparty left and Uniparty right right now.
Ron DeSantis and Gavin Newsom are kind of playing off of each other to elevate one another, both as national figures.
Joe Biden clearly has a lot of problems.
The problems are bubbling up with Hunter now.
I was reading yesterday, actually, I wasn't aware of this, but apparently there was some relationship in the past between Kamala Harris and Bo Biden.
So that could explain a few things.
Maybe she has some dirt on the Biden family.
I don't know how they're going to be able to make this work with Joe Biden.
There's certainly no way they're going to convince the country that enough of the country wants Joe Biden, even against Donald Trump, with whatever negatives they might be able to load on Trump.
There's no way they're going to convince people that the country wants to do Biden again.
So will they get stuck with Biden?
Maybe.
Maybe they're able to get rid of him.
Maybe not.
I mean, there's impeachment talk, but how are you going to impeach an illegitimate president?
That's not the right answer for what to do with Joe Biden.
Does the 25th Amendment come up?
It's certainly possible at some point that Joe Biden, that they attempt to remove Joe Biden from, you know, through the work of the cabinet.
There's a lot of options, man.
It's too early to say.
All of them are disastrous.
For Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s part, I think that his role is going to be disclosure.
He is going to expose that the Democrat system is going to is every bit as corrupt as the Republican system.
Democrats are going to see that.
They're going to understand that both sides are the same and both sides are against them.
He's going to wake them up to the vaccine narratives.
He's going to wake them up to the problems of the deep state.
And when they rig the elections against him, he will wake them up to the fact that our elections are rigged.
So I'm all for his candidacy.
I'm not for a Robert F. Kennedy Jr. presidency, but I'm glad he's doing what he's doing and I'll, you know, support him where I think he's doing the right thing.
Well, I agree with you, right?
Because I don't think there's any path to a Democratic Party nomination, period, right?
But at the same time, for instance, this weekend, what clip went viral?
He was asked basically about the climate change narrative, and he's been talking more and more about the World Economic Forum.
And instead, he shifted the conversation to atrazine in the water.
And he openly discussed the fact that if you take a tank full of frogs and you have atrazine in the water, 10% of them that are male will grow female genitalian.
He goes, that's in the water system.
What's that doing to us if it's doing that to frogs?
And that's obviously a nudge to the infamous Alex Jones.
I don't like him turning the freaking frogs gay.
I didn't see that one coming from RFK Jr.
I would also argue the mainstream media in large part has downplayed the 2024 election.
You would see, I think, a lot more coverage if they were being honest.
Obviously, there's also a concerted effort to what censor RFK Jr. and his popularity.
It is waking the left up.
I just don't know where they go down the road with this Biden idea.
For instance, you mentioned the 25th Amendment.
My problem with the 25th Amendment is that that was very clear from the outset before he'd even been sworn in that he had dementia, right?
So them going to that, no.
Number two, you want to have that base narrative that you never actually believe that in the media, that he had dementia.
This guy was really running the country.
So instead of an impeachment, I think that there's kind of like that Nixonian threat of an impeachment with these documents as a possibility.
Is it too early to tell?
I mean, we're going to blink, Chris, and it's going to be less than a year before the election.
We're going to have literally no debates or challenges on the Democratic side other than RFK Jr., who I believe is going to be on a whirlwind alt media torque.
He already is, right?
And the mainstream media can't ignore him because he's pulling numbers.
The mainstream media can't.
That brings us to Trump.
Trump, even with all these indictments, even with all the rigging, he's at the top of his game and his lead is growing, according to this Fox News article.
And again, any honest poll with these indictments, with these charges against him, Chris.
But in all honesty, what is the path to him with the establishment, especially in the Republican Party so far against him, the narrative against him to get that nomination?
Yeah, I mean, I guess the bottom line answer is I don't know.
But we are seeing a presidential campaign really early right now.
You're talking about how quickly we will be only a year away.
And I agree.
We are basically, we're a week away from it being 16 months off.
And so it is coming up fast, no doubt about it.
But 10 years ago, you and I probably would not have been talking about the presidential campaign until January or February of that year, once the primaries were getting in full swing.
You know, you would have to be really, really out on the fringes to be talking about a presidential campaign a year and a half prior to the election.
So we are seeing our culture, our society highly politicized right now.
People are laser focused on politics and have been for the last few years in a way that I certainly haven't seen in my lifetime or haven't observed.
Maybe it was just me that was asleep and it was going on the whole time.
I don't think so.
So that part of it is very interesting.
How Trump gets the nomination?
I mean, if we have free and fair elections by the time the Republican primaries begin, Trump is just simply going to win it, going away in a landslide.
Now, I doubt that we're going to have that.
I think it's entirely possible that the Uniparty right wants to rig and steal the primaries, just as they have done before.
We saw them messing with the primaries in the 2022 midterms.
We saw it up in Pennsylvania when they tried with Dave McCormick.
We saw it in Arizona in the governor's race when they tried Karen Taylor Robeson, I believe her name was, putting her up to challenge Kerry Lake.
So I expect malfeasance in the primaries, if they are able to rig that and steal it from Donald Trump, no one is going to believe it.
If they do it on both sides, I mean, I proposed this back in January or February of this year when we first started hearing rumors about RFK Jr. announcing.
I could see Donald Trump and RFK Jr. having a unity third party ticket that gets 80% support in a free and fair election.
So, you know, I'm open to all the possibilities.
I'm not too concerned about how they roll out.
With rigged elections, the results of the elections don't matter.
And if we're focused on winning a rigged election and thinking that everything is going to go back to being okay once we win a rigged election, then we're really missing something important.
All right.
So that's really where I want to go with this, right?
Because we keep talking about free and fair elections.
I'm not sure we've had free and fair elections for the better part of two decades at this point as we've instituted.
I mean, at least, right?
I go to 2004 as the first, very, in my opinion, apparent steal.
John Kerry won.
And people are going to go, Jason, how could you say that?
He didn't even challenge it.
He was Bush's cousin on both sides.
You know, forget about just Ohio.
There were many other states there that had questionable practices.
And guess what?
They started putting these machines in there.
As of the 2000 election, when there was some contesting, and again, if you look at that system, it gets decided in Florida, where Jeb Bush is the brother of George and the attorney general works for his administration.
It was all hanging chads, right?
At least we had physical ballots.
At least we had voter registration.
At least you probably had to be a citizen.
And maybe there was some stuffing here and there.
But there was actually a process where there was some kind of an audit, no matter how corrupt.
We don't have that in the slightest anymore with these machines.
Instead, if you report too much and you make too many insinuations, which we won't do here, about certain companies that run these machines, you get sued into the ground.
That's not only how they create this great narrative.
For instance, the Fox lawsuit, that's all you have to say.
You know, Dominion's a superstar to the left.
They love it.
Oh, man, they took down Fox News.
They don't see the bigger picture as, hey, you're taking up for a multi-billion dollar corporation that's in charge of our elections and has no auditing process.
And I'm sorry, any machine that can be plugged in has a USB port or a way to, a portal to the internet is not safe, Chris.
So step one, we need to get these machines out, agreed?
Oh, yes, definitely.
Yeah.
And I mean, that was just, that was hammered.
I don't know how anybody can even deny it at this point, right?
We finally got the public unsealing of J. Alex Halderman's report on the Dominion machines in Georgia.
That report was performed three years ago, that study, that investigation.
The report has been under seal for two years.
Everything in that report confirms what people were saying about the machines before the 2020 election.
And then, of course, after the 2020 election.
Any idea that our elections are free and fair or safe and secure has been absolutely obliterated beyond doubt.
Dominion paid for a counter investigation by a company called MITRE, whose job it was to show that J. Alex Halderman was wrong in his report, but they didn't actually have the access.
They didn't actually perform the same investigation.
And it admits it in their report.
Nonetheless, people are still saying Halderman was debunked.
Halderman is not debunked.
The machines are vulnerable.
Dominion knows it.
And it was in their discovery in the Fox Dominion lawsuit.
Fox settled that to make it go away, not because they were worried about losing.
Well, I would argue they also wanted to make it go away so that they could continue this great narrative that Trump is not a viable candidate, get rid of the one guy that was telling the truth on his network and that wasn't malleable for a big paycheck, right?
And could go out and do his own thing.
I mean, good luck, Jesse Waters, if you want to try.
I don't think you're going to be the Tuck-ins.
On top of all of that, you know, you talk about the machines.
They're not audited.
And throughout the mail-in ballot scandal, which I'm completely opposed to as well.
Obviously, that is another system of total and complete fraud.
But when Baker and Carter had their commission and held two press conferences, everybody, you can go watch them on C-SPAN.
Jimmy Carter notes the machines in general and how they are not audited.
And this might surprise some people, but all he calls for, and I'm calling for a lot more, is he's like, we should have like a 3% audit of these machines.
3%.
Now, how about like, I mean, that's first of all, that's ludicrous on its face, right?
3% instead of the other 97%.
No, I'm pretty sure we should probably have, you know, 100% audit, at least a run-through.
We got all this AI, Chris, and all this technology, but we can't do it.
You know, what are your thoughts on that and how that's never discussed in the media anymore?
That was a hotbed issue back in like 2008, for instance.
I actually played a clip earlier on my other show of the treehouse of horror with The Simpsons, and it started with the voting machines and how they were rigged, period.
But now you're not even allowed to talk about it 15 years ago.
Yeah, man.
And, you know, you're focusing on the audits, and that's a good place to focus because even in the Halderman report, it said it would be possible for certain audits to catch this kind of problem, except they don't do these audits except in like one contest, you know, one contest every two years, I think it said.
And the audits aren't sufficient regardless.
They test a small sample.
They do something called a risk-limiting audit.
And once that risk-limiting audit passes the standards that they have set, then they just say, oh, well, everything worked fine because this risk limiting audit on this batch of votes.
Well, that worked out okay.
So the whole thing is all right.
Well, we know that's not true.
Halderman confirms that's not true.
Anybody just hearing about the process the first time could understand how and why it's not true.
And once you realize that, the next step is to say, well, we keep being told by the same people that these elections are safe and secure.
Here is yet another example of how they're not.
The reason that these audits don't work is because of the standards they have set and the process they've set.
So why would they put a process in place that's not able to confirm that the machines work?
The next thought after that is, oh, the whole process is in place to make sure that we can influence these elections, however they need to be influenced to yield the outcomes we want.
I say often on my show, it's not a conspiracy theory.
It's a system.
You can see the system as it works.
They tell you what the system is designed to do, and then it produces the results.
Controlled Elections 00:15:20
And they control every aspect of voting.
They control the voting, the registration of voters.
They have public-private partnerships with companies who are linked in with the state.
They're able to add names to the voter rolls on their own.
Those things aren't checked.
So they control the voter registry.
They control who the ballots are sent out to and how they're sent out.
Of course, they know where all the ballots go.
If they want to send 4,000 to an abandoned lot, they know the ballots are going there, which means that they can go and pick them up.
So they control the distribution.
They control the harvesting.
At that point, all the blank ballots, they can, of course, cast on their own.
Then they control the counting and then they control the lawfare.
They have a lawfare apparatus set up around the country to be able to defend all of this in court.
And they just wait for the clock to run out at that point.
So they control every step in the process, and they know that the process is designed to allow for exploitation.
It's not a mystery what they intend to do.
And they also control the narrative.
They'll tell you whenever there's a problem, they say, well, no, it's a bug.
No, no, no, it's a feature.
And every time they get caught, they just move the line.
They'll say, well, there wasn't widespread voter fraud or there wasn't widespread election interference.
Now you have to define what widespread is.
So they get caught here.
Not a big deal.
We're going to talk about that narrative management on the other side of this break via Chris Christie being booed.
Big surprise there.
And the return of Don Lemon.
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And Chris Christie tried to talk a little smack on Trump and the crowd clapped back.
This is yet another example of no matter how much this narrative is pushed, the reality is much different.
Look what they tried to do to Trump during the CNN town hall.
The man was applauded.
He was treated like a rock star.
And Chris Christie is one of many, and many more to come that's going to say, no, we need something that's a little more moderate and less controversial.
And Trump is this and that.
And he's doomed in the classified documents case.
He actually did commit a crime.
And unfortunately, although I agree that he is doomed, I don't think he committed any crimes.
And I think anybody that studied the matter knows he hasn't committed any crimes.
But they're setting up this narrative, in my opinion, for Trump to actually be found guilty.
What are your thoughts on that, Chris?
I mean, we're seeing not only Chris Christie, but all these people come out against them.
It's only when they're unchallenged in a studio that the masses don't boo them, like happened here.
And it just shows on one end, the reality is that Trump is immensely popular.
The people don't think that he's committed crimes.
And in large part, they want him back in office.
On the other end, the people that are authoritative sources and who are elected officials are painting this narrative that he's guilty beyond a reasonable doubt before any trial and he deserves to go to prison.
Yeah, well, I wish them good luck with that.
I mean, will he be found guilty in this first round?
Maybe.
Will it stand up to appeal?
Certainly not.
I'm not worried about the Trump in prison aspect too much.
As for these challengers, these contenders, you know, Ron DeSantis is leading the pack and he has less support than Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
On the Democrat side, but we are still being told that Ron DeSantis has a very serious candidacy going.
That is simply not true.
You know, Chris Christie, Nikki Haley, Asa Hutchinson, Vivek Ramaswamy, Tim Scott.
You can keep going down the list.
None of these people are serious contenders.
And I have to assume that all of them know this.
Now, is there some contest for second place in the event that Trump is imprisoned and they can make people believe he wouldn't win, even from prison?
Maybe, right?
Maybe.
If all of this was a Trump-designed op to get rid of all of the very bad anti-Trump arguments that float around our culture through the media, in the public conversation, if he had set this up to dispense with every one of those points, every one of those counter-arguments, it could not have been working better.
So if these guys are all serious and they are really trying to become the next president and take down Donald Trump, it is the most spectacular failure I have ever seen in politics and could ever possibly imagine, including and especially for Ron DeSantis.
But it's embarrassing for all of them.
I hope that this is a pro-Trump red team op that is being played out in public because at least you could then say, oh, these guys are patriots who are taking one for the team instead of just terrible politicians and terrible people.
See, what I see is you don't have a lot of sincere candidates that think they're going to get it.
Again, I really see the push for a DeSantis loss.
In other words, DeSantis gets the nomination and then he loses.
They paint him as a white supremacist, a bigot, anti-LGBTQAI plus fiasco, right?
All that good stuff.
And whether or not he wins, because I do think Middle America still elects him, they elect whoever.
I really believe that.
I think that you got Vivek Ramaswamy.
He's a legitimate guy who's putting himself in there.
I don't think that he thinks he can win, but I don't think the establishment wants him to go anywhere.
I think everybody else up on stage, like you saw in 2020 with the Democrats, other than say a Tulsi Gabbard, like Vivek would be the gabbard of the group, is ready to step down at that moment just to give it to Joe Biden.
You know, at one point, I really believe they were going to give it to Grandma Oatmeal, Elizabeth Warren, but then you saw the writing of, I mean, I believed it.
I thought she was, she was, she would have been a lot more coherent than Zombie Jay.
I just couldn't.
I was laughing at Grandma Oatmeal, but continue.
No, I mean, come on.
I mean, you're telling me she doesn't look like the Quaker guy?
Like, seriously, put her on.
She'll sell oatmeal for you.
I promise.
Look, she was big on a lot of the agendas and, you know, women's power movement.
She's much more capable than Kamala Embarrass.
I mean, they gave you the double shocker.
That's why all bets are off for me in 2024.
They gave you the double shocker.
They picked Zombie Jay, and I would have figured they would have gone with somebody more sleazy and somewhat likable, like a Corey Booker.
No, they went with Kamala Harris.
She's terrible, right?
So now you basically have the same interests that pump money into both sides.
You know this.
And you have all these establishment people coming out.
I think they're going to try to set up a debate stage that is largely controlled, where maybe like a Vivek is on there, but he gets 10 minutes like a Gabbard and he's out by round two.
And it's going to be Heavy DeSantis, Nikki Haley.
She's the woman of power, right?
She's the somewhat independent person up there and people like Christie.
And they're just going to set it up, maybe against a Biden.
Scary to me, you know, and the way they do push it is this great narrative.
And I guess that brings us to our next story.
It's the return of one of those great narrative pushers, Don Lemon.
And he's a journalist, Chris, and he's out there telling the truth.
And he's fighting disinformation all the time.
He's fighting the liars, bigots, and insurrectionists, the election deniers.
I love how they put that denier tag line on everything to try to associate you with denying the Holocaust.
That's what that is, folks.
It's a joke.
What are your thoughts on this?
Where is Don Lemon working next?
Because, hey, Cuomo's back on the scene, baby.
People are coming back from CNN.
Stealth are not too far away, I promise.
Yeah, it's almost like they're actually intelligence assets and not just people who get jobs as media personalities.
You know, how is it that they can be, you know, disliked by virtually the entire nation and still have major media jobs?
It's amazing to me that Anderson Cooper is still leading a network, Wolf Blitzer.
All of these people have been wrong about everything that matters.
I was actually having a little conversation yesterday on Twitter with a writer for the New York Post and some other outlets, a guy named Dave Marcus, who I find to be a reasonable guy and usually pretty entertaining.
And Pesobic had made some remark about Anons.
And I basically said, Anons remain undefeated.
They're consistently right before everybody else about everything that matters.
And Marcus pushed back a little bit, and it was a cordial conversation.
I think he's absolutely wrong.
But he was like, you know, these mainstream outlets, Fox and CNN, can actually get punished for getting things wrong.
Where's the punishment for Anons when they're wrong?
And I was like, first of all, what are you talking about?
Fox and CNN are wrong all the time about everything and they almost never get punished.
The only times they ever actually get punished are when they have to revise some sort of story in the, you know, in the public narrative, and then they'll let somebody win a court case and they'll give them some money and they'll just keep right on going.
CNN didn't change their journalistic attitudes and policies after being exposed on the Nicholas Sandman hoax.
You know, the kid who had the MAGA hat at the March for Life rally and the elderly Indian man was banging a drum in his face.
Like that kid, CNN didn't report that correctly and they got sued for it and they had to pay up.
But what has CNN been wrong about since then?
What has Fox been wrong about since then?
There's no punishment for these people.
Citizen journalists are the ones actually trying to bring the truth forward.
So, you know, a guy like Don Lemon, the dude had a sexual allegation against a man in, I think, Fire Island, like Long Island or something, some interaction he had a few years ago.
That was all swept under the rug.
Nobody talked about that, despite the prevalence of the hashtag MeToo Psyop a few years ago.
These people are just allowed to keep getting away with whatever they want.
It doesn't matter how often they're wrong.
It doesn't matter what they're involved in in their personal lives.
It doesn't matter the level of corruption you can see from them.
They just keep going.
And so that tells you that there's something else going on there.
So I assume that Don Lemon will land on his feet wherever the agency needs him.
Well, I'm not accusing Don Lemon or even Anderson Cooper of being part of any kind of agencies, but I am going to say they're absolutely part of narrative management.
And, you know, I'm so glad that you talked about the MAGA hat kid because what you see is every once in a while, selectively, individuals get to sue, like a Kyle Rittenhouse after he wins in court.
He has to wait till after he wins in court.
Same with this kid.
And then they get a payout.
But on the big things like safe and effective, two weeks to slow the curve, weapons of mass destruction, et cetera, et cetera, they have carte blanche.
Why?
Because the military industrial complex is directly involved.
They have contracts with all of these big pharmaceutical companies.
They are part of things like Operation Warp Speed.
And the writing is right there.
They don't have to tell you the truth.
The same with the Russia, Russia, Russian narrative that continues to this day.
The poot-poot narrative is still being thrown out there.
You know, I watched a compilation on the laptop, and Biden, and Russian disinformation.
And at this point, with more whistleblowers coming out, with the conversation via text message now where dad's right next to me, the denial is almost surreal.
But in my opinion, it's part of this post-truth world of zero accountability that we're living in, Chris.
Yeah, we are.
I would say post-truth is an interesting descriptor.
I hope that we get to a more truthful world through this process.
And part of that comes with realizing that there was never just an objective truth that we could be passed down from authoritative sources in public.
You know, the government is not, it turns out, an authoritative source.
The media, it turns out, is not an authoritative source.
Neither of these entities are just automatically on our side and trying to do what's best for us.
They are trying to present a world as in a way that it will most benefit them.
You know, one of my big priorities always when I'm examining stories in the media is to question what is it that they want me to come away believing when I read this article.
What is it I am supposed to take from this?
What am I supposed to believe?
What are they trying to do once they convince me that this is true?
You know, that is where you can find out what their motivation is.
And at that point, my goal is to usually head in the exact opposite direction and figure out what is the opposite of what they want me to believe.
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And then, is there anything true that I can find to support the opposite case?
And it turns out that a lot of the time there is.
And that's usually where the truth starts.
And, you know, once we all shed this idea that we can simply read a newspaper and know what's going on, or watch a newscast, or read someone's Twitter thread and know what's going on, it's going to be a good thing when everyone lets go of that.
And to the extent that people want to be involved in the creation of a society that has a chance of benefiting them and a chance of remaining stable and a chance of allowing human liberty and human ingenuity to flourish, people are going to have to get involved with figuring out what's going on in the world on their own.
And they're going to have to find some heuristics of their own that they can rely on.
Maybe it's not the way I approach information, but there's going to have to be something more than just figuring out what the celebrities are saying on Instagram.
Well, I think that critical thinking is one of the things that we need to do more of.
I always tell people: try to get as much source material and viewpoints as possible.
And then you have to kind of go through it and use your own discernment.
Like you said, you have to look at the situation.
What's the narrative that's out there?
Why should you not trust that narrative?
And what information is leading you to something that is the antithesis or opposite of that narrative?
And by the way, this weekend, there were a lot of narratives surrounding what went down in Russia.
We're going to take a look at some of the video.
I don't exactly know.
I'm going to get Chris Paul's opinion and try to make sense of the Wagner group and that madness.
I am Jason Bermas, and we'll be back after this.
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All right, folks, let's try to make sense of that madness.
Let's start off with what I understand the mainstream media narrative to be.
The Wagner Group, which is a mercenary group, not unlike Blackwater, is headed by a Russian thug.
I mean, everybody from Russia is a thug at this point, right?
And an ally of Putin, who used to be a caterer and who's a convicted criminal, apparently did 12 years in prison before the catering company and before rubbing shoulders with Put Put and starting this organization.
Now, his organization is on the front lines of Ukraine.
Some of the recruitments, again, this is the mainstream narrative, a lot, in fact, are actually felons and criminals that have been promised to be pardoned or exonerated after some time on the field.
He then claims, apparently in videos, that he was bombed by the Russian military themselves on the front line and then went to Rostov, where that took place and overtook the defense ministry, saying he would go take Moscow 600 miles away.
Then Put Put flees.
Deals are made behind the scenes.
He turns back.
Apparently, he's been exiled, but now people are speculating as to whether or not he's been killed.
If you watch the video, there were plenty of people on social media that said the whole thing was staged.
You had people saying it was the Central Intelligence Agency working with the Wagner group.
You certainly had many people on the left cheering it on.
Chris Paul, what did you think about the weekend?
Yeah, I thought that that looked immediately fake.
And not just that the video looks fake, but that the entire scenario was fake from the beginning.
It made no sense.
It made no sense with anything that has happened in the Russia-Ukraine conflict so far.
It makes no sense from anything we knew prior.
It makes no sense from anything that we've seen indicated about how this situation might wind itself up.
So, for me, immediately looking at that situation, I was like, oh, they're trying to pretend that there is a coup happening against Vladimir Putin and it's his own mercenaries.
Okay.
Well, you know, he's got 300,000 Russian troops near the border.
There have been reports of that for months.
They've been ready to follow in on these mercenary armies if necessary, but it hasn't been necessary.
The idea that Putin, what, had an accidental airstrike that killed Wagner guys, or was it an intentional airstrike?
Because we were told that Progozhin was so mad about this airstrike that he decided to say, come on, boys, let's march on Moscow with the 25,000 of us with no air support.
So none of that made sense at all.
Strategically, it didn't make a lot of sense.
There was no indication that they were going to be able to go in and actually take over the Russian government and then lead it on their own after deposing Putin.
The stories about Putin fleeing didn't make a lot of sense.
There have been multiple attempts on Putin in the last couple of months.
You remember the drones getting shot down over the government building there?
We had reporting after this event, after the fake coup failed, we had reporting that the American intelligence agencies knew about this weeks ago, that this might happen.
Well, did Russian intelligence agencies know about it?
Because there's been no point during this conflict where American Intel has been ahead of Russian intel.
It looks to me like everyone in the West got tricked by Vladimir Putin and fell for it and showed their cards in the process and have completely embarrassed themselves.
I mean, this was nothing but embarrassing for people in the West over the weekend.
The supporters of the regime and of this Ukraine conflict were shown to be exactly the people they've been this entire time.
And that's liars and frauds and people who are absolutely clueless about what's going on there.
They're just trying to warmonger and there's nothing else going on.
So you think that this was actually a Putin op to just kind of embarrass the mainstream narrative?
I mean, again, I'm completely and totally undecided.
I certainly don't know, right?
I don't know.
But in terms of likelihoods, is it that or was this a real coup?
It's that.
Is it that or the CIA almost had Putin?
It's that.
You know what I mean?
So in terms of the likelihoods of our explanations that people are contemplating at this point, and it might be none of those, by the way, but I think that Putin doing this himself is probably the most likely considering the degree of success that he has experienced throughout this process at every single turn, right?
There hasn't been a single moment of this conflict where Ukraine or the West have even taken back an advantage that they lost, much less created an advantage for themselves.
And we've gotten so much propaganda.
And I'm not saying that there's not propaganda coming from both sides.
But for instance, all the same people who rushed to claim that this coup was certainly going to depose Putin and chain and turn the tides of this war.
Those are the same people that told us Russian missiles ended up in Poland a few months back.
You know, maybe that was six months ago.
Turns out they were Ukrainian missiles.
And all of these people were pushing for Article 5 of NATO to be instigated and for the U.S. to immediately engage in a hot war with Russia.
So we know their intent.
We know the propaganda.
You know, we know the stories about Snake Island and the ghost of Kiev and the maternity hospital and just all of these events that have turned out to be completely and totally false.
So, you know, there's no reason to believe anything that comes from that side.
There's certainly no reason to believe that they just had an intelligence or tactical advantage that they were so close to winning the war on.
So, yeah, to me, it's fake.
Well, I'm looking at it like this.
First of all, let's look at the anomalies.
Number one, it's bloodless, right?
So this entire incident, nobody seems to die, even though they stormed into this government building.
Now, I'm not saying the regular security guard is going to want to go against armed troops, but that's extremely suspect, you know, while tanks are coming through.
That's number one.
Number two, it was wrapped up very, very quickly.
And once again, this guy who has this mercenary group is now nowhere to be seen.
That's extremely bizarre.
You just discussed the idea that we haven't had a win.
When I say we of the United States, I'm not on Team USA folks, but really this is a U.S.-driven conflict by all counts.
Yet in this country, the mainstream narrative is still that we're winning.
We're beating Russia.
But if you look at actual independent journalists, we're talking about a body count now of Ukrainians of well over 300,000.
At the same time, Russia has suffered losses, but nowhere near as many losses as this.
What does it do to extend the conflict?
Because it doesn't seem like there is any response.
First of all, we haven't heard Joe Biden's take on it.
Not that we could, because he probably doesn't have a take on it.
He's not very conscious these days.
But the State Department basically has said, no, we weren't involved.
And like you said, three weeks ago, we knew things were getting volatile with Pregorian and his troops, and he may do this.
They're saying that this was a legitimate coup attempt.
But again, a legitimate coup attempt that was met with a bloodless resolution is very suspect, Chris.
It is very suspect.
And, you know, it looks to me like they are trying to once again revise a story they got wrong in a way that makes it look like they got it right and that Putin is still in some sort of trouble or that he's been knocked down a few pegs by this entire thing.
There's just no reason to believe that any of that's true.
You know, I would say that, yes, there's some extent to which this has been a U.S.-led effort.
But in, you know, in the way I look at things, like the U.S. under Joe Biden is first of all illegitimate.
And that represents a faction in the United States that in a two-faction system.
And I think that there are two factions in every country at this point.
And we can see those two factions.
One being those who support the global regime and the agenda of the global regime, the World Economic Forum, the UN 2030, the global governing bodies against the leaders of sovereign nations who want their nations to remain sovereign and want their citizens to remain sovereign.
And so, you know, I think that the Trump movement and probably to a much lesser degree, whatever RFK's movement will be represent what I call the good twin in the United States.
And then we have the uniparty left and uniparty right as currently represented by Joe Biden as the evil twin in the United States.
So that faction is certainly involved in supporting the global agenda.
But what we're seeing in Ukraine is the support of a stronghold of that global regime as that stronghold is taken away.
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I believe that they are in an existential crisis right now, which is why they keep trying to press forward with these wins.
You know, even if they're just narrative, you asked what the point is.
I think the point is that they have very few options left, and creating a full-scale kinetic war with Russia might be a better option for them than simply losing Ukraine, losing Taiwan, and ultimately either surrendering or being eradicated.
We got to take a break, but on the other side of this break, folks, I promise you, this is the most shocking story of the day.
Get ready to make some sense of some madness with Chris Paul after this.
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Final segment of Making Sense of the Madness.
And in the story you're not supposed to talk about, the one that shouldn't exist in the first place, it's pretty unbelievable.
Transgender New Hampshire Democrat arrested for distributing child pornography a year after having to resign from the state legislator over multiple stalking charges.
And this person looks as much like a biological male as it gets, but you can't talk about this.
Now, we're not about right or left here.
But again, you have somebody in the government that is a Democrat that is clearly a danger to children and very much a part of this transgender agenda.
Chris, what are your thoughts on this crazy story?
I mean, I guess I have to say that I wish these things didn't happen, but they don't surprise me at all.
I mean, we are embracing derangement.
You know, I want people, I genuinely want people to live in ways that they find fulfilling, right?
I want them to be able to pursue their happiness in life.
But at some point, we have to call a spade a spade.
And this is mental illness.
If you look at pictures of that guy, I don't think there was a picture there on, you know, with that headline, but this guy does not look like a woman.
Okay.
It's not a trick.
He's not fooling anyone.
It's just a guy with long hair, like a big dude with long hair.
There you go.
That's not a woman.
I'm sorry.
Right.
He's not fooling anybody.
And at some point, we have to say, okay, we're not going to pretend along with you, right?
If this was a five-year-old child talking about how he had an imaginary friend, like we might, you know, we might kind of, I guess, play along.
I don't think it's good to encourage these things, but it's at least kind of funny as long as the kid is just pretending.
If you reach adulthood and you still need to have your imagination placated to by everyone around you, something is seriously wrong.
And if you want to enforce that they have to play along with you through the law and through societal shaming and cancel culture and everything else, well, you're absolutely insane.
That is just tyrannical behavior.
And I think at some point we just have to accept what this is and figure out a way that we can still be nice people and caring, compassionate people without catering to other people's delusions and derangements, especially once those delusions and derangements have future steps and we can see those future steps.
And those future steps put innocent children in vulnerable situations.
In criminal situations.
I mean, this person has a long history of criminal behavior, stemming back 20 plus years to 2002.
They're only 39 years old.
We have to take hold of this issue, put these people in prison, not give them another chance.
This is our kids.
Chris, tell people where they can see your stuff.
Thank you, Jason.
Good to see you.
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whole blow up with Project Veritas.
I read a few people wrong, and that's my fault, but I learned from that, and I think I'll be a more effective messenger as a result of that.
That'll free me up to do the next chapter, the next stage of my evolution, which is OMG, which is decentralizing journalism.
And sometimes things happen for a reason.
That's my goal, that's my mission.
And I didn't ask for that mission.
I never thought that would be my mission.
It just has become my mission.
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