The 4th Industrial Evolution Of Mankind With Mel K I MSOM Ep. 768
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I am Jason Burmese and joining me for the next hour is an independent journalist, somebody who's speaking out against this New World Order globalist plot to change and really destroy humanity as we know it.
A friend of mine, Mel Kay, she's great at what she does.
We're going to talk transhumanism, Epstein, and so much more.
Let's get ready to make sense of the madness.
And you have this discussion for, you know, for thousands of years about what humans really are.
Are they an immaterial soul or an immaterial mind?
Or are they embodied beings, embodied entities?
And this was a major philosophical topic that you see say in ancient Christianity, this discussion that Jesus and the first Christians, influenced by Jewish traditions, they believed very firmly that humans are bodies, which is why Christ rises in the body.
He's resurrected in the body.
And when Christ initially talks about the kingdom of heaven, he means the kingdom of heaven on earth.
He tells his followers that there'll be this perfect kingdom here on earth, you know, with trees and stones and people.
But over time, under the influence especially of Platonic philosophy, Christianity drifted away from this view of humans as embodied and placed greater and greater emphasis on the immaterial soul or mind.
It imagined that the body is dirty, the body is animalistic, the body, there is something wrong with it.
And when you die, you are not coming back in the body.
Your soul is liberated from the material body and it goes not to a kingdom on earth, but to heaven, which is a completely immaterial realm.
So the Christian fantasy became to completely disconnect from the body.
And this remained a fantasy for thousands of years.
Now, with the technology of the 21st century, a lot of very ancient philosophical and theological debates are becoming practical.
So going with your example, let's say you have some teenager or some person, whatever age, sitting at home, never leaving home in front of a screen, maybe with some 3D glasses or something.
They live their lives online.
In a way, they are realizing the platonic ideal of disconnecting the soul or mind from the body.
So what do we see there?
Is it a human being trapped within a room, losing connection to the real world?
Or is it a human being liberated from the restrictions of the biological body with all its messiness and dirt and whatever?
And liberating their spirit to there he is Joval Noah Harari.
Some people, including myself, we refer to him as the transhumanist high priest of the New World Order.
Think about what he just said there, folks.
He dismisses all ancient religions as complete and total fantasy.
But now, technology, mainly through virtual reality and the metaverse, can spiritually set you free.
That's from a recent interview inside Lisbon, Portugal.
And just so happened that Joval Noah Harari was in Lisbon, Portugal, came in on the Thursday that the once-a-year super exclusive Bilderberg conference was being held.
One in which you had the heads of AI organizations.
Talked a lot about AI right there: Sam Altman, Eric Schmidt, the heads of Microsoft, DeepMind, all there.
And you wonder if Yoval might have had some private meetings of his own.
And this is a guy that's very much being promoted by the establishment.
What he's saying should frighten all of us because it is a false promise of spirituality.
It is a false promise that somehow our consciousness will digitally be uploaded eventually into this metaverse, multiverse, whatever they rebrand it as.
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So to explore that and many other things today, we're going to have Mel Kay on the other side of this break.
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And now joining me is a friend, a researcher, a speaker, and one hell of a podcaster.
It's Mel Kay.
Mel, I know that's a fresh clip of Yoval Noah Harari, but you're very familiar with this gentleman.
You spoke about him many times before.
What are your thoughts on the fact that he is so dismissive of traditional religion and spirituality, but then in the same breath is promising that experience through AI and virtual worlds?
Yeah, I mean, thanks for having me, Jason.
It's really exciting.
I'm very excited to be here and to have you on the show.
Yeah, we and I both have been looking at this guy for a very long time.
Noah Harari, I also believe, as powerful as people think he is, I think the people behind him are way more dangerous than he is.
And he's kind of a front man.
What always scares me about Harari when he speaks is that there's a room full of people, as you said.
These are very powerful people, many of them groomed into this world.
They have a lot of wealth and they stand up and they clap and cheer it on, not realizing that what he's talking about will also enslave and entrap them.
But again, we know that a long time ago, they even had a conference back in Egypt not too long ago, where they talked about replacing all religion with a one-world religion that would be run by AI.
And now that they've come to a place where people are getting used to it, they've been saying it long enough.
They're kind of putting it out there like as a solution.
And you and I have talked about the Hegelian dialectic, where they create a problem, pretend that there's a problem when there is none, and create it through chaos or whatever they do.
And then they come in and they say, this is the solution.
And for a very long time, even Kurzweil and other people you talk about talk about that in the future, religion or God will be replaced by a benevolent AI.
And this is where he's going with that.
But really, the truth is this is communism through technocracy.
And as everyone probably that watches you and me are aware, in communism, especially Mao's China being the example, there can be no God.
In that case, government or Mao or the CCP is God, replaces God, replaces the parents, replaces everything.
Even Eichmann in Nazi Germany, who at the end of the day, when he was about to be hung, said he was a good soldier for his flag and his Führer, and he would do it again.
So again, this is creating a situation where AI replaces God and family and community and everything that makes society work.
And again, as Harari and Klaus Schwab have said many times, whoever controls the algorithm controls the people.
So not only is he talking about an AI religion, but he's also telling you that they will be the gods of said religion.
So, I mean, it's terrifying.
But at this point, Jason, I have to tell you, a lot of this different stuff, I think we should start mocking it and laughing at it and dismissing it instead of, you know, a lot of people put it out there with fear, but we've been looking at this so long.
These people, if we just started mocking them, they would fall apart.
That's the thing that they fear the most, in my opinion.
Well, I think they are starting to be mocked.
For instance, in that very good animation Beyond the Reset that I know a lot of my audience has seen it.
If you haven't, I can't recommend it enough, telling kind of this fictional tale that goes along with the COVID-19 44 nightmare.
You have that cameo of Klaus Schwab with the lizard eyes.
And now the lizard thing has kind of become a meme, right?
Like, you know, people have dismissed it in large part.
Nobody really considers lizard people or the Anunnaki real.
I think it's one of the big faux pas of David Icke, who's otherwise has done some very, very excellent work.
And hey, I'm just putting it out there, but it is a meme, right?
You see MMA fighters calling Bill Gates a lizard.
So it is that type of mocking that says, hey, why are these guys in charge again?
What exactly are they doing?
And I would also argue that you're correct that Harari and even Schwab, in large part, they're more mouthpieces.
They're in the public forum of the World Economic Forum, which has kind of been the public mouthpiece of globalist goals, motivations, modus operandi, and NGOs, right?
Whereas the Bilderberg group, which I discussed, is still very much in the shadow.
In fact, the World Economic Forum is so out in the open.
When you go to their website on artificial intelligence, they actually have a list of the agenda.
And I believe it's over 1,654 articles that you can choose from.
We also know that the World Economic Forum has partnered with the metaverse and talks about societal goals and governance.
I mean, there is no end to them telling us this is an agenda, telling us again what the problem is, Mel, like you talked about, and then offering us a solution that does not benefit humanity.
And in large part, I would argue most people don't want it all.
Right.
Yeah.
And, you know, what you're saying is so important for people to understand because it has been, and you've been doing this a long time.
I have as well.
It has been very easy to look at the World Economic Forum and think, aha, it's then.
Even today, an EU member from Croatia put out a tweet where he goes off on the World Economic Forum being the most dangerous organization and that everyone should reject them.
And, you know, it's great to see people in the EU who I believe have unknowingly, possibly or knowingly, been sucked into being the first nation state of the Rockefeller-Brzezinski Kissinger plan, which we are living through the tail end.
But at the same time, you know, we have to always follow the money here.
Everything that they're talking about, I believe at the end of the day, goes to the very top.
The Bank of International Settlements, the IMF, the World Bank.
You know, it's really about consolidating everything.
But there is a giant financial piece to this too, to bring us into this when we talk about the Hegelian dialectic.
I believe that their financial system is failing.
That is their control mechanism.
It has always been for hundreds of years, if not more.
And that is where the real power lies.
And people are being so deceived all the way down to our local level with these all these different divisions and factions and everything.
What we really should be looking at is who benefits from all of this?
Because it isn't humanity and it certainly isn't our children and it's not the planet and it's not the earth and it's none of that.
Who benefits from consolidating everything into this very manageable track and trace surveillance system where we're all on the internet of body, internet of things, a very small group of people that control the financial system.
And I think people have to start always saying first who benefits, follow the money, where is the benefit financially?
Then we can start really dealing with who are the true puppet masters.
Well, you talked about the financial system and there is an open movement now to utilize blockchain technology.
But again, it has a precedence in history.
You mentioned the IMF and the IMF well over a decade ago started using SDRs, special drawing rights, which essentially were zeros and ones in a computer system that they could then loan out as localized currency.
And you would be beholden again to the IMF, which works with the World Bank and all of these other institutions.
Currently, the push is obviously for a central bank digital currency, maybe with different flavors, but again, surrounding blockchain.
And the World Economic Forum has already partnered for refugee camps to utilize that blockchain technology.
And that's what's really scary is that you're seeing it first used outright to manage the poorest of people, the most desperate of people.
And that becomes really a microcosm of how they'd like to use it on the rest of us now.
Yeah.
And it's also really important, I think, for people that are watching to understand the IMF.
And this blockchain is a new iteration of taking down and controlling and enslaving a country, let alone the entire masses, which is what this is about.
You know, first and foremost, the Obiden regime, especially, I'm sure the audience here knows about executive order 14067.
Well, there were other executive orders after that, but the very scary part about all of this is that blockchain with the central bank digital currency doesn't just include financial.
That actually, and we see two people who went to the World Economic Forum in America, Kristen Sinema and Kemp from Georgia, are both introducing bills to add in a digital mandatory digital ID system.
Well, they're not telling you that that digital ID system hooks up with the central bank digital currency because, as Jason said, the World Economic Forum, you go to Global Digital ID, which the World Health Organization just talked about last week.
And the EU said that they're implementing.
So, the central bank digital currency and blockchain that they're talking about, which tracks and traces and surveillance every single thing you do financially, will not just be that.
It will also be a track and trace surveillance for all of your movements, for your biometric data, for your ridiculous climate trace climate change that Al Gore has contributed here to your vaccine status, and also all the way to tracking and tracing and surveilling your social media interactions.
As yesterday, the UN Secretary General, who has no authority over any nation, is out there putting out a contract for fighting disinformation and misinformation globally through the UN World Economic Forum.
So, it's so much bigger, the central bank digital currency.
And of course, they're selling it right now.
And they have pilot programs all over America as a you already don't use cash.
So, get to this.
It is not that is programmable digital tokens that will be used to control behavior.
Like in China, they are using the same model and it will be punitive when needed.
It will hold you back from getting loans for small businesses.
It'll hold you back from traveling.
It'll hold you, stop you from filling your car with gas if you use too much, and all of that.
So, the central bank digital currency blockchain is just the first layer of them implementing what they really want.
Which, again, go to the World Economic Forum, put in global digital ID or the UN or any other websites.
It's all the same.
And you will see it is one spoke on the whole spectrum.
But if you do it through the financial system, and right now I hear they're offering people $500 or $100 into their central bank digital currency pilot program account, well, soon people are going to be like, Well, I'll take that.
And before you know it, everything's on there, not just financial, everything.
And you mean everything.
You talked about biometric data.
You talked about the fourth industrial revolution, and that is an integral part of even that pilot program with the refugees.
They scan your iris and they're going to say, Hey, we already have your facial recognition for your phone to open.
And hey, we already have your thumbprint.
It's not a big deal.
Hey, we already have your DNA.
You volunteered it via 23andMe.
So I want to expand on that.
On the other side of this break, I also want to talk about the metaverse aspect of this: Apple launching their own AR VR standalone set to come out next year.
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We are back.
It's making sense of the madness.
I am joined by Mel Kay.
And in the introductory video, Harari specifically talked about a young man that just lives at home.
He sits on his couch.
He never leaves.
He lives his life through some type of 3D glasses, and he's able to have this spiritual experience and be essentially any avatar he likes.
Now, you also have the partnership of the World Economic Forum with this metaverse, Mel, where they talk about societal importance, governance importance.
And this very much is on the agenda.
So what are your thoughts of that rapid integration that we're now seeing?
Yeah, I mean, two years ago, about, I believe, Mark Zuckerberg, and he was talking with Klaus Schwab, and Klaus Schwab's promoting him and saying he's such a hero.
You know, we also know that that's happened along the lines.
All I think about, you know, I spent a big chunk of my life in Hollywood.
And this is, if people don't understand what they're going for, the movie Ready Player One by Steven Spielberg is pretty much depicts exactly what they're talking about.
The problem, again, Jason, is that people have been so propagandized and programmed and deceived on so many levels about technology that they don't always look at things that you've exposed in your own documentaries, which is backdoor, track and trace surveillance, full control.
And then there is also a lot of technology that people don't realize.
Like you were talking about tracing the iris.
Well, they have ways to also suppress your immune system and do different things through frequency, through visual means, through all kinds of things that they've perfected over the years that will also harm your health, your wellness, your psychological ability, your ability to learn, to think.
I mean, it is a full takeover of humanity.
Now, Harari has many times also spoken about, which is really important to understand, that he doesn't know what him and his friends, which I say are about 3,000 at the top, and many of them we do not know their names because they don't care about us knowing their names.
And then, you know, maybe seven, 8,000 below, and then a lot of useful idiots that work for them.
But he has made speeches talking about the useless eaters, similar to Kissinger and Club of Rome.
And what are we going to do with them?
And he always says, I guess video games and drugs.
And if we're noticing now, another thing that they're also starting to really talk about at the World Economic Forum and their other sister branches is hallucinogenics.
And to me, if you look back and I've studied also cults and other things out there, they often talk about really it's about compartmentalizing, or I guess it's called like turning into a tribe where everyone's involved.
And if you're not part of it, then you're some kind of dissident or subversive.
And they talk about community and all of that.
What they are doing is they are trying to force people into this world.
Like this is the future.
This is the community.
Not really talking about that there will be no true human interaction.
It is a big part, I believe, also of the depopulation agenda.
If you are getting it through sensations, which it will include bodily sensations, if you are getting it in your home, if you don't have to leave your house, just like Ready Player One, I suggest if everyone doesn't understand the full spectrum, it's a really good example of what they're talking about.
And to me, it's really just cutting off humanity from one another to end procreation, to end communities.
I mean, the whole, I believe, the great recent and pandemic, a big part of that was to decimate the middle class and to separate us.
And then this is the ultimate separation of humanity into just being basically slaves and cogs in the wheel until they can really full eugenics and decide who will be able to live on this earth and who will not.
You know, it's not too long ago, Bezos talked about his space pods that he wanted to warn everyone that eventually we'd all have to live in anti-gravity space pods he was working on.
Of course, he is second biggest contractor, the Department of Defense, after Musk.
So when they're talking about all this stuff, people should be taking it seriously.
And is that the future you want for your children and your grandchildren to not run around outside and have a beautiful world?
When they talk about the apothecine and all this stuff and the dystopian future, who's that for?
And is that real?
Or are they just scaring us into buying into this and saying, you know what?
It's better to go into the metaverse than to live in the dystopian nightmare that's ahead because of climate emergencies.
So, you know, it's all part of the same thing: track, trace, control, and eugenics.
Killed it on that, Mel.
So many things to break down.
Let's start with Harari himself talking about a drugged up video game-obsessed general populace.
He also did a very telling TEDx audio-only interview.
And in the first 15 minutes or so, he talked about kind of why so many people are uneasy and they're not getting along.
And there is this divisiveness.
And his theory is that subconsciously, we as the general populace realize that we're not part of the next story, that we are going to be worked out of the system.
You called it population control or eugenics.
In the future, I believe they're going to call it transgenics because this book right here from 1997, Unzipped Genes, describes the good eugenics in several chapters, including transgenic creationism, my perfect monster, how transgenics works, and should we fear transgenics?
Well, this is also from the most powerful transgender person on the planet, in my opinion, Martine Rothblatt, who wrote from Transgender to Transhuman, a manifesto on the freedom of form.
Later, virtually human, currently is very invested in mind clone technology, robotics, and has their own religion where they have robotically and through AI cloned their wife and called it Bina 48.
So, for those that think this is fantasy, and by the way, you mentioned Elon Musk just breaking today, emails between him and Epstein, now going public, folks, not your buddy guy, not your friend pal.
These people, and by the way, the other thing about Musk is if you put him in a Klaus Schwab voice, everything he's saying is the same thing Schwab is saying about the fourth industrial revolution.
You will have the electric cars, there will be a carbon footprint, you will have a brain chip.
Right.
Right?
All of it's there.
And he's the number one defense contractor out there, Mel.
So how do we get this information out?
You know, one of the things that you're doing, and I've been lucky enough to do through your contacts, is to speak on this reawaken America tour, where there are a lot of mainline conservatives and Republicans that still don't know about this stuff.
Yeah, it's amazing to me.
I love what you just said.
And I think that's important because a big part of what you do and I do, and I think where the goal is, and everyone at AMP, is to make people aware of when they're being propagandized, when they're being totally, totally manipulated.
And what you just said about Musk is really important for people to understand.
He doesn't say this is a possibility.
He said it is.
They use statements like, you have no choice, is what he's saying.
This is the future.
That is going to happen.
That's the same thing with the climate talk.
It's the same thing with everything.
By telling you in absolutes that something is going to happen that doesn't have to, certainly the solution.
So it doesn't.
There is free will and auto-determination, but they're telling you, no, there's not.
It's not up to you.
We will tell you what is.
And I think that's very important.
And as far as going forward down this path, we have to really be hyper invested in paying attention to our feelings and what is triggering us emotionally, because that is where it's coming from.
A lot of people think, well, I see propaganda.
And I always say, if you can see it, it won't work, but maybe you don't see it.
And I really, I like what you just said there.
And I think people really have to pay attention to the words people are using and not just how it makes you feel.
Absolutely.
Well, that's the thing, right?
I think we're all susceptible.
We have to accept our own humanity.
Part of that humanity is that none of us are perfect.
None of us know it all.
And we're all going to be making mistakes throughout our lives.
We have to take in as much information as possible, use discernment, and then decide what we believe and then distribute that information and accept when we're wrong.
I think that's really important.
Part of humanity is to have humility.
And so many people refuse to have that aspect to say, you know what?
I was wrong about that issue.
We need to move on.
We need to find a way around it because ignorance is not bliss to me.
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In fact, information is power.
So you know what to avoid and when to avoid it and when to take a step back and ask yourself, is this real?
Am I being propagandized?
Can I utilize this technology for good and empower myself through it?
Because not all AI is evil or bad.
But despite what we had been promised, that the creative jobs would be the first to go, or I'm sorry, the last to go via AI.
It would be the self-driving cars.
The opposite seems to be true.
And you know this within the Writers Guild right now, the main part of this strike, again, being marginalized, if not whispered by the media, you never hear about it, is due to the implementation of AI on the writing scripts and in the director's chair as quote unquote project managers, Mel.
Yeah, that's a very big deal.
And I'm glad you brought that up.
And I do, because I am very involved in it.
And I'm in three guilds in Hollywood.
And the other one is about to strike as well.
The Screen Actors Guild, I believe, and AFTRA, they merged about 10 years ago or so.
I believe they're about to strike too over the same thing.
They're not including, see, when I look through the Writers Guild language when it came in the mail, and then now the Screen Actors Guild language.
And what's crazy is when I was in Hollywood in 2009, there was a writer strike well before streaming and all of this, and it devastated Hollywood.
Okay.
It really, that was really when reality TV had the ability to jump in because the writers couldn't write, the scripts couldn't come out.
A lot of shows that people loved were reruns for a year, if anyone remembers.
Now it's totally different.
And what's happening is that people are getting marginalized.
And what's happening on the actor side, which is very scary, is that these monoliths that run Hollywood, I believe that they're also the tip of the spear in the satanic side of Hollywood, they are starting to go into deals where sell them your likeness and they don't even need you on set.
And that they will totally create with your face and your voice.
And this is going into music too.
So the screenwriting thing is still an option.
The truth is, though, I fully believe that this is going to implode.
I believe that all arts are a gift from God.
And if you excel at them, you have a talent and a gift that cannot be replaced by a computer.
And that computers can only really AI itself can only really generate what is put into it.
But an outside thinker, and what's happened in Hollywood, especially most people don't realize the BLM, LGBTQ, all of that, the control.
It's all of that stuff is on the surface.
The control of content, narrative, what's coming out of Hollywood started in the early 2000s of really quelling and then cutting out any really outside the box or not controllable talent, writing, all of that.
What's going to happen is that this is going to force people to go outside of that system to create truly original, God-given, inspired content that doesn't use that model.
So it's going to be hard for that.
But in the meantime, people do have to realize AI is not something to be afraid of and they are trying to make us afraid of it.
I personally think what you just said is the truth.
It is who controls the AI.
Noah Harari, actually, when he talks about the future of credit scores, he's actually talking about social credit scores as per the mandate of Larry Fink and the ESG score, but that also goes into their human rights campaign, equality index scores, and their congressional index scores, which are the LGBTQ social credit scores and the climate trade scores.
But all of that stuff is possible to be rejected.
It's just that they're controlling the algorithm right now.
They're controlling the AI.
If the people that control the AI are benevolent and looking for solutions that can enhance humanity, enhance the arts, enhance everything, great.
If they are looking to replace humans, which is what I believe these people are doing, also they didn't raise generations after them as they dumbed down our children through the Poison Ivy Leagues and other places.
They dumbed down their own children because I believe that this plan for AI to take over was 20, 30 years in the making.
And they don't really need that many people anymore.
They certainly don't need Kissingers and Brzezinskis when computers can strategize like that.
So in my opinion, they're making a sphere AI when we really should be mastering it and fighting a battle of who controls it on the back end.
And really on the front, as an open source system, and that's the big problem.
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You have Sam Altman says we need to put a six-month pause.
On the other side of that, you have Eric Schmidt saying, no, no, no, we can't.
China's going to move forward.
They're both at Bilderberg.
By the way, they both have the same solution: government regulation.
Harari preaches government regulation of AI, compares it to, hey, you can't just put out a car and sell it.
Hey, you can't just put out a certain type of medicine and sell it.
You have to go through the FDA.
You have to jump through these loops.
But this is much, much different because it's about narrative control.
And he even alludes to that, saying, you know, the algorithms for YouTube, when you used to look up 9-11, you'd start with a CNN video and then two videos later, it'd be the most crazy conspiracy theory ever.
We can't let that happen.
So basically, he was complaining that within two clicks of the government authoritative propaganda, you might get to the truth.
AI can't provide that.
And we're already seeing that via many of these chat bots when you do talk about sensitive subjects like 9-11, like the election in 2020, like the COVID 1984 nightmare.
And to me, that's why it's no surprise, Mel, that the follow-up to Klaus Schwab's book, The Great Reset, was in fact the great narrative.
And they're trying to set it in the post-truth world.
I want to talk about that world.
On the flip side of this break, I also, again, want to talk about the Reawaken America tour and much more.
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We're just talking about the Great Reset, the Great Narrative.
And one of the challenges to that great narrative has been this Reawaken America tour that you've spoken at many times.
Some of my favorite people out there, Dr. David Martin has spoken there.
Jim Brewer has done amazing comedy there.
Of course, General Flynn is a staple and part of that tour.
And they've been gracious enough to let me speak there as well on Elon Musk, transhumanism, and much more.
Talk about the tour, how you got involved in that tour, and what some of your favorite parts of that tour have been, because it's a very wide spectrum, and we don't necessarily have to agree with what everybody says, but there's really an open forum there to reach more of mainline America.
Yeah, you know, I mean, the great part about the tour, first of all, it is such a threat for some reason to the narrative, to the establishment, to the mainstream media.
I mean, the hip pieces, you know, it's always every time and they're there.
And, you know, Clay has to come up and be like, Mel, this person's here, that person's here.
And we invite all the media to come because once they come, it's very hard to report on it.
No matter how hard media matters and Daily Beast and all these people try and they demonize it.
Once people actually come, it's very hard to attack it.
So, of course, they use Sololinsky and attack the people with lies and smears, as is their tactic.
But it's very hard to attack the content because there's so much there.
The best part, and I got pulled in very early from the very beginning.
I'm very good friends with General Flynn and a lot of people involved, Roger Stone and Clay, and many, many people, Ann Vandersteel, a lot of people that you know as well.
I mentioned it to you early on, and you've been a great addition because what we've been trying to do since the very beginning, since the first one in Tulsa, is to bring in voices that other people have not heard the information.
And every show, it gets better and better.
This next one in Vegas, actually, I have invited my good friend Roseanne Barr will be doing stand up along with Jim Brewer this time as well.
So, Roseanne's going to be there.
We have Alex Jones coming again.
We have a whole bunch of new people.
This is going to be in Vegas the 24th and 25th.
Everyone should come join us.
It's going to be a big, big event that's going to be slightly different than the rest of them.
We also have the Trump family joining us.
Lara and Eric Trump have come in to be champions of the event as well.
Now, what really goes on there is community.
As much as these guys are talking about the metaverse, we have to understand what they're trying to do is end community, end gathering of people like-minded and not.
Because right now, what's more important and what I'm working on with Clay and other people is opening the tent of the Reawakenator from what it's been propagandized and lied about being to being a place that is welcoming to all, be it in the middle, libertarian, left of center, right of center, whatever you are.
We want you to be able to come.
We also want you to be able to speak.
And I believe that at these events, people come and they are shocked and they are amazed and they are grateful because they realize they are not alone.
They are the majority.
The majority of Americans want the government to do their job and leave them alone and to enjoy their lives and to determine their futures.
It is about taking back your freedom, your liberty, and your family and your future and making a better way.
And the best part of it is also there are so many people there from the local community all the way up to the government and the different groups out there for like mothers and getting involved in your town and in your legislature, whatever it is, there are action steps there.
There are people to tell you, I want to get involved.
Well, go find the right booth and you're going to find something that appeals to you to get involved.
And again, all of us there are very accessible.
We do a meet and greet with flyover conservatives and many other people at the event.
And, you know, we sit there and we talk to every single person.
And this one in Vegas is going to be spectacular, a great event, lots of new additions.
So I really highly recommend that you, everything that the media has told you has been a lie.
And it is certainly about this.
They don't want you to get together.
They don't want you to feel the spirit of God and community and love and passion that comes from being there.
And I just, I hope everyone joins us because it's a real beginning situation.
And I'll tell you, I've been on it for two years.
I know people have met on that tour and gotten married.
I know people that have gone to every tour.
I know people that they've met people at the tour and then they meet up at the next one or the two later.
10 people all be like, oh, I'm going.
And they'll all coordinate and drive cross country to go.
I mean, it's, I laugh all the time.
I'm like, this is like the American Patriot Grateful Dead tour.
So, you know, it's really, really very fun.
And people, you know, I really, highly recommend it.
And this one in Vegas, what do you have to lose?
It's fun no matter what.
Yeah, I haven't spent any time in Vegas other than driving through it.
I'm going to be speaking at that event as well.
Excited about it.
And I'm glad that you talked about community, right?
Because in front of the scenes with people like Richard Bartlett, I get to spend time with him.
He's done great stuff.
Andrew Wakefield.
I get to interview him later.
Roger Stone.
We get to talk behind the scenes.
But then there are those that just show up, like in Tennessee, where I get to spend time with Jay Dyer and Ryan and Courtney Turner and Unjected and all these other people that aren't necessarily a part of the tour.
And then, of course, the good people at AMP News, even before hiring me, have been a big part of the tour.
And I got to meet John Michael Chambers, the head of the network. on that tour.
You know, it's an amazing thing.
And that's outside of all the other individuals that are just attending it.
And it's just such a positive experience.
I remember just having a day with the Epic Times guys, two younger gentlemen, one from upstate New York, kind of familiar where he was from, one literally from China.
And I get a perspective that I wasn't able to get before.
And we're not in front of cameras and nobody's trying to be a social media superstar and get clicks and likes.
Instead, we're able to share a donut and an orange juice and be human beings together.
And that's pretty important, Mel.
Yeah, I'm so glad you said that.
Also, this one just at Miami, you've been so busy that you weren't there, but you were there in spirit for me for sure.
But also, you had a lot of people there that like you're talking about the ones that showed up, like Dyer and other people in Nashville.
At this one, we had Luke from We Are Change, who I love.
Alex Stein is going to again be in Vegas.
You know, we're really changing it.
The guys who did the Target rap song, they were there.
They got on stage.
We had David, and I'm not talking about people that even spoke.
David Rodriguez was there.
We had Viva Fry was there.
I mean, all kinds of people came that were in the local community around Miami, came down and hung out.
Like you said, we all do what we do on stage, but then we come down.
It is more of a festival of freedom.
It is about getting together, meeting new people, and also realizing we, the people together, are way stronger than we think we are.
And every individual that shows up, because I speak at events all over, I'm speaking at a Juneteenth event at a church in Grand Rapids.
I'm speaking at the villages to a bunch of awesome retired people that want to know how to get involved.
So everyone should be creating groups, showing up, even if it's like a neighborhood, you know, open house or it's something at the local park.
Because, you know, Jason, I've been talking a lot about this.
We keep showing up and are watching people show up at these drag queen story hours for kids.
And we're watching people show up at school board meetings to demand change and all of that.
We should also be putting on our own events locally, you know, things that promote family and promote, you know, healthy living and all of that, but also promote, you know, good cops and good firefighters for the kids.
You know, why aren't we doing dueling events and seeing who really America is?
Because I have a feeling if instead of showing up, you know, opening the door to Antifa, being set up by, you know, whoever, the feds, DHS is, you know, to have violence, to get going where they're going, which is a big part of what's going on.
Why aren't we doing more and more events ourselves, taking it upon ourselves, our local community, or even our county, and creating patriotic, family-friendly, truth-oriented information events, just like the Reawakening tour, where we have a sphere of influence.
And that's what I want to encourage people the most.
If you are coming to the tour or any of the events, take that lesson and go do one in your own community.
You'll find local sponsors, local patriots, local groups that would be involved.
And I think that it's a good model to, if we had these events all over the country, all over the summer.
I know Scott McKay is on this network as well.
I had done many tours with him.
He did the Patriot Street Fighter tour a couple of years ago and a lot of stops.
I showed up.
Let me tell you something.
500 or to 2,000 people are showing up with Scott and Sasa Stone and Lee Dundas.
I went to a bunch of them.
This is powerful.
And everyone out there should be thinking, how can I do this?
And who do I know?
And how can I set up a local event so that I'm not showing up at their events to protest them?
People are showing up at my event to feel like they have power and that they have control and that this country is better than that.
And I think that it's so important to localize that.
You know, you talked about events 500 to 2,000.
Folks, you don't have to have anywhere near that.
I remember during part of the COVID-19 84 nightmare, I'm here in Iowa and I threw a maskless Mother's Day picnic.
It was, you know, not that much money.
There was only about 10 of us core and 50 people throughout the day came by.
They ate some food.
You can do that.
You can go and get a gazebo, get a permit for very little money.
10 people committing $50 to $100 for all the fix-ins.
Get a projector, show a film, have some music, be with your community.
Be the change you want to see in the world.
Don't be reactionary.
Instead, be proactive.
I think that's 100% correct.
And one of the reasons that this tour is so powerful, because they're not wait, they didn't wait till 2023 for the 2024 election.
You know, they got it going essentially right after Donald Trump had been cheated in 2020.
That was the big motivation for Clay Clark to eventually contact Flynn and get with Byrne and others and kick this thing out.
No, that wasn't.
No, Jay, that wasn't.
Really, what really was it?
You know, it originally was called the Reopen America Tour.
And the reason Clay really started it was because he, now that made it much bigger, was the election.
But really, this is what you're talking about.
This is similar.
I bring this up because it's what you did with the Mother's Day, Maskless Mother's Day.
That original tour was called the Reopen America Tour.
This is why people should realize it's not what you think in terms of everything.
It's evolved as the stories evolved because it's not about the story.
It's about the American people getting together.
But that really was about what you're talking about.
It was about, listen, we all agree that we should reopen the country.
The masks are bad.
This is bad.
Let's go against it.
And let me tell you something.
It was very hard in the beginning to get a venue because a lot of places were still locked down, mask mandatory.
So it started there.
And then as we've evolved, like General Flynn says, this narrative changes every 60, you know, every 60 days.
So the narrative kept changing.
So the tour kept evolving to change.
And now we're at a place where we're heading into 2024.
The Trumps are involved.
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Caspatel is involved.
Nunes is involved.
Now it's evolved to this, but it started small, which goes with what you were saying about starting small in your community.
Because you start small, the next time people are going to come to you.
Well, now this is going on.
Let's do it again.
And that's really what we want is for it to keep evolving as things change going forward.
I'm with you 100%.
And again, don't be intimidated.
We need more leaders.
We need more people to be out there in the arena, not just reacting, but taking charge of their own narrative in their own lives, in their own communities.
On the flip side of this break, I want to talk Epstein.
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I want to talk Epstein, not just Musk revelations, but as you know, we have multiple suits going on, including with the Virgin Islands.
But just yesterday, in a separate case, we have a $290 million payout by JP Morgan.
It is being said that up to 100 victims can actually get some of this money, but they're still being sued in other cases, and people are being told they have to testify, Mel.
What do you think about these latest revelations?
Well, you know, first and foremost, you did almost more than anyone on this case.
I learned more and I had known my parents have lived in the Palm Beach area.
I know these girls.
They went to Palm Beach.
They didn't go to Palm Beach High School.
Actually, it's Royal Palm High School where he got a lot of his victims, which is right near where my grandmother lived my whole life.
And I know two of the girls from when I was younger and I actually worked in Palm Beach myself.
So I am very happy for these people.
But again, you've been on it a very long time.
This started in early 2000, but I actually encountered when I was in New York City as a young person, around 19 years old, I first encountered the Epstein group, including him.
And this has been going on for decades.
So people have to understand the scope of this has been totally lied about.
And what we really need to realize now is these girls are the tip of the iceberg.
What will I believe could be coming out and why also my friend Jim Cabiesel and Tim Ballard's movie coming out, Sound of Freedom, has been held back by Hollywood so much is that there is a lot in that movie that will make very clear the darker side of what happened on Epstein Island.
And we have not gotten into the real child trafficking aspect here.
They've made it like it was teenage girls that, you know, were they plied up or whatever or convinced with money or picked girls that were vulnerable and then manipulated and used them.
This is far bigger than that.
There are children and also boys and young children involved in this ring.
And it's gone on since the 90s, at least that I 100% know about.
So here we are now, and all of this is coming out.
But what is, I believe, about the Chase settlement is that there's a lot more there than anyone can imagine.
The one big fish I truly hope does get taken to task eventually because Bill Clinton absolutely was on that island.
We know at least 26 times on Epstein's flight.
What people have to understand is Epstein's flight was just Epstein's plane.
A. B, the flight doesn't go to the island.
The flights go to St. John's or St. Martin or St. Thomas or somewhere.
Also, a big place for destinations for celebrity yachts.
And those celebrity yachts don't carry one person to the island.
So we have to really understand this is way bigger.
And people keep saying they're waiting for a list.
Jason, in the work that you've done and Sean Atwood and a couple other people out there, if you go back to the very beginning, Liz Crokin is another one.
If you go back to the beginning and you look at all of the filings, anyone can put together a list of so far probably 50 people that have been called out in court filings in the last, you know, 15 years.
So we're at a place where it's starting to fall together.
I believe that this settlement by Chase is the first of many, but I do not want these people to be getting away with it.
The one person that needs to be questioned under oath by the FBI, by the prosecutors from the Virgin Islands, which you said early on was going to be the only case with legs.
And with everyone else that is suing is Bill Clinton.
He needs to be questioned because they also went on a trip.
Bill Clinton, Jeffrey Epstein, Kevin Spacey, who has been accused by credibly by many, many people and many more in Hollywood and in London that went to his schools.
These people took a trip to Africa together for a month.
What did they do in Africa?
And again, this will also lead to Haiti because I believe that a lot of the children that disappeared and the children that were trafficked, caught through Sillsby, connected to the Clinton Foundation, Clinton Global Initiative from Haiti and other islands ended up also on that island and other islands.
People have to understand this is an island network and that is very scary.
This is one island of many.
So, you know, it's much bigger, but it really is about, and people have to start understanding and accepting it is about very young children, not what we have been told, not the lie that Netflix put out there with filthy rich.
You know, I love James Patterson, but it was a whitewash on this to kind of close the book.
And we have Ghelene Maxwell in jail for child trafficking, and yet we have no clients of hers in jail.
So we really have to keep going, but lots of great developments.
And believe me, the Musk takedown, these people, this is what's happening.
They are taking down each other.
I've said all along, all we need to do is have a couple of the big guys fall in the Epstein case, and they're going to start throwing each other under the bus.
And never forget, the Clinton Foundation, Clinton Global Initiative, had four main players.
Well, that would include both Clintons, Jeffrey Epstein, Weinstein, and a guy named Stephen Bing, a giant Hollywood producer.
Stephen Bing killed himself two years ago, which I believe that it was the same thing as Epstein, and he did not kill himself, but nobody can prove that.
We got Jeffrey Epstein dead, and we got Harvey Weinstein silenced for life.
So the Clintons, it's getting closer and closer to them, and it goes straight for Bill Clinton, in my opinion.
Well, Mel, we're going to have to wrap it up right there because we've run out of time.
It's easy to find her show.
It's the Mel Kay Show.
It's across the board on podcasting networks and, of course, on Rumble, where you're dominating.
I can't wait to see you in person again in August.
Hopefully we made some sense of the madness with our good friend here today.
And we'll see you tomorrow night.
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