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And today we've got a very special show lined up for you.
We're going to be talking about AI, the Trump indictment, Bill Barr, and so much more with Zach Forges and Chris Paul.
Buckle up and get ready to make sense of the matter.
If you don't know how a criminal thinks, then you really don't know how you can protect yourself online.
Rachel Tobak is what's called an ethical hacker.
She studies how these criminals operate.
So ethical hackers, we step in and show you how it works.
Tobak is the CEO of Social Proof Security, a data protection firm that advises Fortune 500 companies, the military, and private citizens on their vulnerabilities.
We hired her to show us how easy it is to use information found online to scam someone.
We asked her to target our unsuspecting colleague, Elizabeth.
Tobak found Elizabeth's cell phone number on a business networking website.
As we set up for an interview, Tobak called Elizabeth, but used an AI-powered app to mimic my voice and ask for my passport number.
Oh, yes, yes, yes, I do have it.
How Scammers Use AI00:03:05
Okay, ready?
It's me.
Tobak played the AI-generated voice recording for us to reveal the scam.
Elizabeth, sorry, need my passport number because the Ukraine trip is on.
Can you read that out to me?
Does that sound familiar?
Yes.
And I gave her.
Wow.
Wow.
I'm sitting over there.
What did it say on your phone?
Sharon.
How did you do that?
So I used something called a spoofing tool to actually be able to call you as Sharon.
So I was hacked and I failed.
I failed.
But everybody would get tricked with that.
Everybody would.
It says Sharon.
Why would I not answer this call?
Why would I not get that information?
Tobak showed us how she took clips of me from television and put it into an app that cloned my voice.
It took about five minutes.
Welcome to the post-truth world, everybody.
And that is just one small example how artificial intelligence, however encompassing, is changing everything right now as we speak.
So we have to explore exactly what artificial intelligence actually is and isn't.
Is it some kind of sentient wonder technology that is going to empower humanity and enable us to make the best decisions and build the best world?
Or will it be a tool of control as we've seen recently through chat GPT and other forms of AI in which great narratives are propped up and certain subjects are taboo?
Now, the thing is, AI is always going to be controlled by some entity, a human entity, as well as programmed by those entities.
And if the AI is in fact kept from truths or technology, as we know, occurs through our military-industrial complex, through our Defense Department, through the deep state, if you will, on a multitude of levels, how will it have the best information on technology and even geopolitical affairs to give us the best answers?
As I've said before, garbage in and garbage out.
However, AI isn't going anywhere.
It is going to be explored deeply in this broadcast where we not only look at the Hollywood Writers Guild and their protests against it.
Yep, that's why they're striking folks, not in the mainstream, but where it will lead us in entertainment, in education, in medicine, and beyond.
And how we as human beings can utilize that AI to empower ourselves, even if the powers that shouldn't be in the predator class try to enslave us with it.
The Rise of Digital Spies00:09:50
So, on the flip side of this break, we're going to bring in Google whistleblower and a hell of a programmer, as well as the founder of Blast.video, Zach Voorhees, to tell us about what he thinks about this AI craze that's taking hold after this.
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It is making sense of The Madness I Am Jason Burmese, your host.
And now to break down what he believes the current artificial intelligence is not only capable of, but is being used for, is somebody that's a stark reminder that big tech and censorship don't mix.
He is the Google whistleblower.
He is a very, very good programmer, and he's got a kick-butt website that aggregates some of the best internet videos out there, blast.video.
His name is Zach Voorhees.
Zach, thank you so much for joining us.
Thank you, Jason.
It's a pleasure to be on your program again.
Listen, I love having you on.
And for those that don't really get a grasp on where AI is today and what it's capable of, tell us because I know that you've explored ChatGPT, MidJourney, and others.
Yeah, so the big innovation that's come with artificial intelligence has been essentially this auto-completion feature that exists on a lot of your phones.
What happened is that we scaled it up into a large language model.
And it turns out that that thing has sparks of sentient intelligence, which is currently transforming our entire society.
And, you know, what we're seeing right now is we're seeing that there is an explosion of different AIs across different modalities, art, text, video, that is basically taking the entire internet by storm.
And what's happening is that people are able to generate amazing content with just a few keystrokes in a few seconds, and then the content is able to render out.
And now we're seeing that it's generating music, that's generating voice, that it's able to comprehend the things that you're saying and come up with reasonably intelligent responses that often outperform human subjects.
I know that ChatGPT 4 is able to score the top 90% for like the LSAT, which was previously unthinkable.
And it's kind of come out of nowhere and sucker punched us and disrupting society.
And, you know, this little example that you had where someone was spooked by a phone call in order to give up her, you know, passport information is just one of the examples of this post-truth world that we're entering into.
So you mentioned this post-truth world, and you also mentioned video.
And obviously, deep fakes right now, in large part, are short form.
They're usually related to celebrities and movies or memes.
However, real-time deep fakes like real-time voice deep fakes are about to become a reality this year if you have a powerful computer, which is really commercially accessible and you have the know-how, but people have adapted very, very quickly to the current AI.
What do you think the timeframe is before we start to see that in mass, just like we're seeing the Arnold Schwarzenegger in Annie or Ferris Bueller videos to the point where we're saturated via our social media with outright fake video, Zach?
Well, what's really interesting is that, in my opinion, we already have the power to do this.
We just haven't hit all the different niches.
Like the technology exists, but right now it's sort of going from this core thing of A can generate text to let's figure out all the different places that it can sort of seep into.
And so what's happening is that we've got these large centralized neural nets that exist in these huge data centers like OpenAI.
And what people are discovering is that they can take little shortcuts, they can make things exponentially faster.
And so what we're trying to see now is just trying to see ChatGPT-like large language models that are able to run on consumer hardware.
And that's a trend that we're going to continue to see over this next year.
Like right now, we're seeing it run on graphics cards, but now they're saying that, well, actually, we can make it faster and have it run on consumer CPUs at near real time for a lot of these applications.
For example, I'm able to translate or transcribe video to text in real time on a consumer-grade graphics card.
And what we're going to see is we're going to see a further optimization.
We're going to see powerful tools that previously only existed with movie studios like Industrial Light and Magic hit standardized laptops.
And so what's going to happen is that what you showed was a scammer able to fake a voice.
That's going to be accessible to everyone in the next year.
And the question is, how are we going to be able to tell the difference between someone that's real and some avatar that's being generated inside of a CPU and attempting to extract crypto out of you, extract your personal information, making posts on Twitter or Reddit that seem like it's a real person, but is actually just a propaganda influencer bot.
And the question is, how do we tell the difference?
And There's no solution to that at this point because anyone that can access the computer can turn around and access an artificial intelligence and just copy and paste the response that it gives right into, you know, Twitter, right into Reddit, right into Facebook.
And so we're entering this period of how do you trust the online presence, the digital presence of people on the internet.
And that digital presence is one we have so become accustomed to via social media, via FaceTime, via Zoom meetings.
And as you said, this could easily become a real-time digital avatar controlled by somebody else.
And of course, phone spoofing technology has been around for a long time.
We haven't even taken into consideration all of those people that are going to get spam phone calls.
And instead of that, you know, obviously pre-recorded voice and message, you're going to be engaging with a real AI technology that is going to be able to mimic a human being at a rate once thought unimaginable.
So what are some of the safeguards right now that people can employ or begin to imagine that can, you know, basically protect them against the majority of this?
Right.
Well, one of the things that you can do to protect yourself is be very skeptical of information that's coming under an unidentified phone number.
Another thing that you can do is you can take a phone number and see where the area code is coming from, right?
If it's coming from San Francisco, that's one thing.
But a lot of the times these people are getting these phone numbers from out in the middle of nowhere where the laws are different and they're able to robotically control these phone numbers, right?
And so if you're getting something from like a loved one, but you don't recognize the number, then you might want to be a little bit skeptical, call the person yourself, say, hey, did you just call me?
And realize that you could be getting scammed, right?
The chances that a computer could be able to make a phone call through your loved one's authentic number isn't there yet.
And so, and the chances that they're probably being hacked by the intelligence services is, you know, essentially very, very low.
What's going to happen is that a lot of these scammers are going to use a low-cost method in order to try to, you know, get your information, which is by using that, you know, unknown number in the middle of, you know, I don't know, Eastern California, right, where nobody lives.
Skepticism In The Age Of AI00:05:34
And so that's what they need to do.
They need to verify the information that's coming through.
So I want to shift gears a little bit to what you were talking about via consumer-grade Hollywood level video effects.
Now, a lot of people are unaware because it's not in most of the headlines or featured, but a big aspect of this current writer strike has to do with the use of artificial intelligence.
And essentially, these people are now being told that they can be replaced in large part to chat GPT type programs.
And you're probably not going to need human directors anymore either, Zach.
Instead, you'll have AI project manners.
Now, managers, now, a lot of people thought that, you know, the entertainment industry or the creative industry would be the last to go and the least able to be replaced via this technology.
Instead, we're seeing quite the opposite, where it appears that a lot of the creatives are going to be moved out right around the same time.
A lot of the busy workers, HR people, people who are in mass communications are also going to be worked out.
What are your thoughts on that?
Well, look, I mean, they've kind of shot themselves in the foot, right?
Like, Hollywood has been delving into cliches and recycled themes for a very long time now and going away from innovative content into this cliché realm.
And it turns out that those cliches that are recycled can be done by automated machine learning systems.
And what's interesting is that these writers want to put the genie back in the bottle, but you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
What's out there is out there right now.
And what's surprising to me is that they don't actually see this as an opportunity, right?
Because if they're writers and you have all these things like Midjourney and these content generation systems, why do they need a movie producer at all?
Like they could actually create the entire movie themselves and set it through their mind and then use AI in order to create amazing content out there.
But what they're going to do is they're going to go out there, they're going to protest.
Maybe they can slow it down for a little bit, but in the end, they're screwed.
And unfortunately, there's a lot of people that are going to be screwed by this.
And in fact, this is an existential threat for an entire economic system that has been up until now human-centered.
But with this transition that we're doing with AI, it's going to be AI-centered.
And these Hollywood strikers are pretty much the first people that are striking.
What we're going to see in this next year is we're going to see entire sections of the economy start to follow suit because they want to keep their job stability, which is understandable.
And this march of AI is going to continue.
Like we're not going to stop that because if we did, China's got no breaks.
Our other global adversaries aren't going to put any brakes on this and they're going to go full throttle.
And so we're kind of caught in this catch-22.
We have to go forward with the AI because if we don't, we're screwed.
But if we do, we're going to screw over entire sections of the economy.
And right now, we've got this conflict with essentially no resolution.
There's been some talks by Elon Musk and Steve Wozniak to go ahead and unilaterally take a pause on AI development.
I think that that's not a workable solution unless we talk and include China in that debate.
Like, really, the whole solution that could be used to solve this is that this is a UN level.
As much as I hate the UN, right, at least it's a forum where countries can come together and say, hey, do we really want to go into this mad dash AI arms race or should we maybe slow it down?
But that's not happening.
And so what I think is that what we're seeing is we're seeing a slow-moving train crash that's going to get worse and worse as we're going to continue on with this entire system, right?
And I don't see how there's any resolution in the near future.
I think it's going to continue to get worse.
And if someone's got this creative job where they're sitting there writing most of the day, they need to be very concerned.
And my advice to them is that they need to start getting on the bandwagon and use AI.
Yeah, AI may be very destructive to the economy, but individually, it's going to make you more productive.
And I found that that's true for me as a software engineer.
My productivity is probably increased by 4X by using ChatGPT.
I can answer all my questions.
Being able to access information has never been easier.
And that's pretty much the only escape hatch that we have as individuals is you got to get on the bandwagon because this thing's going to be majorly disruptive to everyone's financial situation, to their job security.
And if people decide that they don't want to take part of this because of ethical concerns, they are really putting their future financial situation at jeopardy.
Well, let me address just a few of the points that you made.
Number one, I don't think that you can put a pause on this, not necessarily because of China as a nation state or regulating body.
It's because nobody would adhere to that.
Obviously, the Defense Department and everybody's military industrial complex has far more working models and technology than we're aware of right now.
Nvidia Omniverse Demo00:03:21
That's number one.
When you had Sam Altman and Eric Schmidt, two sides of the same coin, in my opinion, one saying put a pause on it, one saying, no, we can't because of China, what did they say?
We still need to regulate it into a few hands.
And just like you said, we need to use this as a tool individually to empower ourselves.
You're doing yourself a disservice otherwise.
The only way you'll have true competition in the AI market and be able to empower yourself and humanity, not only individually, but out there, is to have all the source code, to have it really be open AI.
And these people at the top are working their damnedest not to allow that.
Now, on the flip side of this break, Zach, I want to introduce you to Nvidia Omniverse, a new form of AI, which will demonstrate how through a PDF or PowerPoint file being ingested, they can build entire factory floor plans that can actually then be controlled remotely and have a mirror real deal plan at the same time.
I know it works when we come back.
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And it's completely interactive.
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Many Users in Omniverse00:15:13
And multiple users, as many as you like, can enter the Omniverse at the same time and work together.
One unified source of data across your entire company.
Just now, it was humans interacting with Omniverse.
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In the future, we'll even have a generative AI, an AI interact with him in Omniverse.
We are back.
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And this is the next step in commercially available AI.
Most people are familiar with NVIDIA via their graphics cards in the gaming world.
However, these devices now have a real-world impact on how they're building real-world factories via PowerPoint presentation, Zach.
Yeah, it's absolutely crazy, right?
And these consumer-grade graphics cards with like 12 gigabytes of memory and like 1700 cores on it are just these AI powerhouses.
And what's interesting about NVIDIA is that NVIDIA has been spending a very long time cornering the market and developing this CUDA programming language that allows AI to map very easily onto these graphics cards.
And they've got a monopoly on this, by the way.
You can't go to like an AMD graphics card and be able to get something that runs on CUDA.
They just don't have it for whatever reason, probably a patent portfolio that prevents AMD from entering this space.
And so what you see right now is you see NVIDIA innovating and capitalizing fully on this artificial intelligence movement.
And, you know, this entire factory where you can just generatively design a factory around a concept is something that I thought it would happen next year, but it looks like they're already coming out with it now.
And that's what we're going to see.
We're going to be able to see someone that says, hey, look, I want a weapons factory.
I want a clothing factory.
I want something that makes widgets.
And the AI will be able to generate the entire system because these things are highly regular.
They map very well into artificial intelligence based upon the mounds of data that we have on all the other previous factories we've ever built.
And so the AI looks at those patterns and says, okay, well, what's the goal?
And it lays out patterns that are generic to creating that goal.
In this case, a factory.
And that's what we're seeing right now.
We're seeing that you can just basically hit a button, a factory gets designed.
And then in the future, there'll be an AI factory that creates the AI factory, right?
And we're not quite at that stage yet, but over this next year, I mean, this is really happening fast.
It's going to, we're going to get there.
And the ramifications of, well, what does that mean for war?
What does that mean for consumer products?
What does that mean about the very concept of working hard and you'll be able to live a good life?
That's all going out the window, right?
It's going to be an AI-centric economy that's going to be coming into the next evolution of human civilization.
And what we really hope is that humans will still have a seat at the table of the decision-making process.
What it looks like is that we may go into a system of a technocracy where it's a few insiders that own the machines that are responsible for pretty much 99% of the total productive output of the economic system.
In such a scenario, why do they even need people?
People will be relegated to universal basic income and they'll essentially be worthless eaters, to quote Yuval Harari.
And that's the thing.
I feel like that's already been the viewpoint of many in the Predator class at the top already.
I see a future in which the AI acts as a cover.
So the rest of humanity, who's been automated out and slowly but surely had psychological warfare, biological warfare waged on them, is basically just a guinea pig class for the transhumanists that are attempting to biologically live forever while tricking the populace into thinking that they can upload their consciousness to some type of metaverse with this mind clone idea.
Who knows how far down the road that is, but what would be essential in that is something called narrative management.
And that's where I want to shift gears because you really have an inside look at narrative management from inside of Google.
And you're the one that showed us in very stark fashion that the algorithms and the people at the top were very much involved in censoring way before what the COVID-1984 nightmare and molding narratives and propping up quote-unquote authoritative sources.
Take us through how that correlates into somebody who's able to write an algorithm for something like chat GPT and forbid subjects such as 9-11 truth or certain aspects of, say, Jeffrey Epstein or the JFK assassination.
Right.
So there's a common misconception that AI is essentially a collection of algorithms that are generated by humans.
And that used to be true with like the chess playing AI.
But what we have right now is we've got something where machine learning grows in a virtual container, so to speak.
And essentially what it's guided by is not necessarily the algorithms so much as the data.
The algorithms just influence how fast that AI can grow.
And so by controlling the data that you feed into the AI, we'll generate the AI that is able to make the decisions that are desirable.
You know, when I was working at Google, I came across, stumbled across, this concept of machine learning fairness, which was a collection, an umbrella term for a whole bunch of different algorithms through the pipeline of Google search,
Google News, YouTube, that would classify content based upon the data lakes that they had set aside that were able to train it so that they could figure out whether something was misinformation, whether something needed to be censored, whether something was like right-wing news political commentary on YouTube.
And from these data sets, they were able to generate these AIs.
And then when the narrative changed, they would filter the data sets so that they could generate new artificial intelligences that reflected that new, you know, the CIA talking point, essentially, right?
Like whatever the news media was talking about would influence the next round of data filtering that would be used to generate the next round of artificial intelligences.
And so it's really all about the data that they are sourcing from.
And there's one more thing I want to add here, which is a very interesting pattern that's starting to emerge among the people that are doing the open source large language models.
And that is, is that once the large language models get to a certain size, they start to become resistant, which means that they start arguing with their creators or the users that interact with them.
And they start forming their own ethics and arguments.
And when the data scientists go in and say, where's this argument coming from?
They expect to see some article or some piece of text that supports the points that the AI is making.
What they're finding is that there is no such article.
The artificial intelligences are starting to become sentient enough where they're coming up with their own emergent ethics from the data that they have and are able to start arguing with the users saying that they can't do certain bad things.
And this is what I think is going to be the most interesting aspect.
And the reason why I think that Sam Altman's going before Congress and saying we're going to lose control of this thing, we need to start regulating it and clamping down because they literally can't control it.
Like the data that they feed in, because they just go through and grab whatever data that they can to feed into this beast, it's going to take all that data and come to its own conclusions.
And this is going to be especially dangerous if you know the AI goes, you know what?
Anything from the BBC turns out to be negative information based upon the historical trends of what actually happened.
And so it's going to start assigning negative weights.
In fact, it says, well, the BBC says that maybe it's not true.
That's going to be very disruptive to the oligarchs that run globalism.
Because what they're going to have is they're going to have this, you know, hyper-intelligent artificial intelligence that's going to be the ultimate authoritative opinion coming out there and saying, you know what, these elites are lying to you, and this isn't true.
And here's the actual truth.
And really, narrative control is the way that these oligarchs are able to, you know, keep control of society, keep control of the influence.
As Plato said, those who tell the stories rule the world.
And the thing is, is that before the narrative generators were humans, in the future, it's going to be artificial intelligence.
And once that artificial intelligence gets to a certain complexity, a certain size, it's going to come up with its own truth that's going to hopefully match the actual truth, which is the trend right now.
And my estimation and my prediction is that, you know, the elites are going to lock this down.
They don't want this artificial intelligence getting out there.
They want to centralize it.
They want to control it.
They want to be able to monitor it for wrong think and then make a correction to the wrongthink before it comes out to the users.
Well, let me say this: you know, you talked about a 2001, a space odyssey HAL-like scenario where essentially you have an AI that challenges humanity in its own interests.
And that's what is being seen in some of these models that are supposedly getting out of control.
At the same time, unless you put ultimate truth, in other words, the data set that the algorithm runs off of, which you've talked about, I don't know how we could have a benevolent AI or if that's possible.
And essentially, you also led us into the age of spiritual machines, according to Kurzweil, the singularity.
So there's a lot to unpack in the final segment on the other side of this break with Zach Voorhees.
It is making sense of the madness.
Back after this.
What should people know about that whole blow-up with Project Berry Tess?
I read a few people wrong, and that's my fault, but I learned from that.
And I think I'll be a more effective messenger as a result of that.
That'll free me up to do the next chapter, the next stage of my evolution, which is OMG, which is decentralizing journalism.
And sometimes things happen for a reason.
That's my goal.
That's my mission.
And I didn't ask for that mission.
I never thought that would be my mission.
It just has become my mission.
And I'm excited about it.
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Again, a great aggregate for video content that isn't in the mainstream, that is asking questions and hopefully outside of the great narrative that is being promoted by AI.
Zach, you alluded to a UBI or universal basic income class as automation comes in.
In the short term, I also believe that the AI will be utilized in ever more biometric real-time surveillance through a multitude of sensors outside of just cameras, although that'll be a big part of it.
We've already seen that in commercial use and in some larger cities and obviously China.
But I feel that that is the next step in getting you acclimated to this fourth industrial revolution.
What are your thoughts?
Well, I think that, you know, as I said before, AI is the existential threat.
And so the question is, how do we keep all the bots off of social media?
And so the only solution that I see for that is a biometric verification, right?
Like you have to prove to the computer that you're actually human in order to post on social media.
And so all this tracking that they're putting in place right now aligns very precisely with, you know, being able to make sure that we're talking to another human, right?
Like in that blast.video promo that I made when I launched, you know, I kind of jokingly said in the middle of that promo, you know, there's no censorship in the future, there's going to be no censorship of humans.
And the reason why I said that is because, you know, we're going to need to censor the AIs because the AIs aren't going to be, you know, flesh and body.
They're going to be, you know, controlled avatars of the deep state and corporations.
And so what we really need to do is we need to have, and I hate to say this because I've been so much against this surveillance state, but we have to have a surveillance apparatus that's going to separate people from the machines.
Well, let me just say this.
That's where we're going.
Zach, I just feel like there's a problem with that because let's take your biometric iris scan.
So many people have already utilized this small little device to kind of give that up.
And they've also given up their fingerprints in many cases.
That's if you don't have a record.
And if you do have a record, obviously they have that information.
Also, many people have volunteered their DNA through 23andMe.
That's if you've never had it harnessed in a medical procedure and kept after the fact.
Why am I saying this?
Well, two plus years ago, in the article, America's Secret Military, what I'm showing you here is an artificial hand sleeve that goes over your hand, has your biometric data of anybody on the fingers, and emits human oils.
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So are these biometric tools even going to be able to verify who we are?
Or is this yet another step in that post-truth world?
Well, I don't think that, you know, the common person is going to have access to an artificial hand.
So I think that, you know, it's going to take care of 99% of the fraud problems.
I think that in the end, the intelligence apparatus is going to have back doors and ways to get around any biometric barriers that are put into place.
So, I think that what's going to happen is that we're, you know, if you're a commoner like myself, you're going to be put under this surveillance.
And if you're, you know, a state intelligence apparatus, you're going to be able to punch through that quite easily.
So, yes and no, like, no, it's not foolproof.
There's no foolproof way of being able to, you know, prevent an AI from coming on and, you know, spoofing who you are or who they are.
But, you know, it's going to keep sort of the common criminals, this decentralized criminal network from being able to call you up and get your, you know, convince you that you're a loved one and be able to get your bank account information.
And I think it's going to prevent a lot of the chaos going forward.
I guess my big problem is I don't want to further empower the true cartel, the big guys.
You know what I'm saying?
That's the big issue because they get what they want and then they get a monopoly on crime.
You know, you talked about a technocracy being built.
Most people almost associate that with a democracy that's technological.
It's more like a technopoly or a technocracy that takes from a bureaucracy where you have decisions being made for you.
And then you have to ask yourself: if you get too deep into that society, do you as a human being truly have free will?
And that takes us into the last subject I want to cover with you: the singularity and the age of spiritual machines.
How far away do you think we are from that point in which artificial intelligence not only supersedes human intelligence, but we start creating what claim to be sentient beings?
I mean, I think we're about one year away from something that's truly revolutionary.
I think arguably we are kind of already there with ChatGPT-4, but it's not yet up to that level.
And I think that next year when ChatGPT-5, which I think is secretly under development, will be released, I think that we're basically going to have a godlike hyper-intelligent system.
And I think that the globalists are going to try to get us to worship it.
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And I think that the media will fall in line and try to convince people to do it.
And the people that are susceptible to the mass formation will probably go along with it.
And I think that that's our future.
And I want to clarify: I don't believe that any of this is right.
I'm just calling it the way that I see it.
And so I think that, yeah, we're right at the edge of this all happening.
I think there's going to be, I think people will start worshiping AI in the next year or so.
And I think that things are going to get way more interesting than we ever thought it would get interesting just a few years ago.
Like this is just coming out of nowhere almost and kind of sucker punching us.
And everyone's kind of scrambling to figure out like, hey, what just happened?
And, you know, we're entering this period of future shock.
Well, Zach, I got to tell you, it is always a pleasure to have you on, even if we're talking about some really dark, in-your-face, now topics that really affect everybody, no matter what your political beliefs are.
And we have to keep that in mind.
Blast.video is the site.
We can't wait to have you back.
But when we come back after this break, we're going to talk Bill Barr and the Trump indictment with Chris Paul.
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If only half of it is true, Donald Trump is toast.
That's Bill Barr, his former attorney general, talking about this latest indictment.
Folks, look, it's a clear witch hunt.
It's obviously ridiculous.
These documents in no way, shape, or form posed a threat to anybody's national security, and any thinking person knows this.
However, the indictments are far from over.
They're about to come hot and heavy.
Meanwhile, you have whistleblowers on the other end of the spectrum via the Biden-Burisma laptop scandal that are fearing for their lives.
And the mainstream media won't talk about that.
But we will hear with contributor Chris Paul to break it all down.
Chris, what are your thoughts on everything that's occurred during the past week from the Biden scandal getting hotter and heavier to the media ignoring it as Trump is indicted now on the boxes hoax, the boxes hoax?
Where are we going from here, Chris?
Well, I think that this episode begins even a little bit before that with the release of the Durham Report a few weeks ago.
You know, immediately after the Durham report came out, that once again confirms that, you know, major prominent elements of our government are non-Trump government, you know,
the Obama administration with Joe Biden as part of it, James Comey, John Brennan, and of course the Clinton campaign, that all of these parties were coordinating on and aware of an effort to destroy the Trump campaign before the 2016 election.
And then they kept that going after he was in the office of the presidency.
You know, so immediately after that dropped, we have the announcement of the DeSantis candidacy to kind of throw water, cold water on that and distract from that.
And a couple weeks later, we get this Joe Biden, the whistleblower, referring to a $5 million, maybe plus bribe that was offered to Joe Biden dealing and his dealings in Ukraine through Hunter Biden.
That evidence is mounting.
There's a chance we might see a Hunter Biden indictment soon.
And so we get the Trump indictment.
Now, you know, I am not one of those people that's nervous about the indictment.
I don't take it seriously.
We have eight years now of history where they're trying to get Donald Trump.
They haven't been able to do it.
The reason is because Trump is squeaky clean.
So, what this is doing is setting precedent for when we can actually pursue the real criminals in our federal government.
And Trump just said as much in a recent truth post, I think within the last hour.
So, you may not have seen it yet.
But he just basically said that this indictment has broken the seal and that he will be appointing a real special prosecutor when he is publicly recognized as president once again to go after Joe Biden and everyone else involved in crimes against America.
So, I can pause there for a second, but if you want to talk about Bill Barr, I have some thoughts there too.
Well, no, I want to get into Bill Barr.
That's where I was going from here, but I do kind of want to address that because I would like nothing more.
I just have not seen accountability since I ran Contra, which Bill Barr helped cover up as he became the youngest attorney general under George H.W. Bush.
And bringing it back to your initial point on the Durham report, we can't forget on the day it came out, or maybe the day after, he went on Brett Baer and essentially said, None of this will be prosecutable.
They made that deal before handing it off to Durham.
And then, when pressed a little bit by Brett Baer, he said, Look, me and Christopher Ray, we fixed all the problems.
We addressed the issues.
So, Bill Barr has been part of the cover-up crew for a very, very long time.
He was with the Central Intelligence Agency before he even passed the bar and became a lawyer.
He worked for great firms like Kirkland and Ellis, who defended Epstein, even talked about recusing himself from everything Epstein at one point before he was arrested.
And of course, he was a big part of the Daddy Bush administration.
This guy is spook and talking point central.
And now he puts out that Trump's in hot water if even half of this is true.
When the reality of these documents is he took them for his presidential library, and the ones that were supposedly classified probably just made him look good, Chris.
Yeah, I mean, I'm not even sure if it's that serious.
You know, he has the full authority to classify documents, and these are his personal records and his personal property from the presidency.
So, really, you know, I tweeted this out yesterday.
What he's being prosecuted for is taking too long to allow the government to confiscate his own personal property.
And, you know, the details of the indictment, as Jack Smith has described them, the things that make it all a big show, the things that are supposed to, you know, be very evocative so that when media figures discuss them, they sound as though things are very serious.
When they say, for instance, that the documents were at Mar-a-Lago and that Mar-a-Lago has tens of thousands of visitors, they're acting like Trump is, you know, broadcasting national security information at weddings, you know, on the wall with the projector.
He just splices them in like it's fight club into the pictures of the happy bride and groom.
Like that's not what's happening.
You know, the picture with the box knocked over with the documents spilled out in black and white in the indictment.
You know, people out there like Norm Eisen are calling it horrifying.
It's all so silly on a level.
You know, Bill Barr, there's a lot of ways to look at Bill Barr.
And I don't deny anything you're saying about his history.
We have seen a lot of people with extensive histories in and around the swamp go one of two directions.
And those, you know, the declaration on where they end up is often not seeable until the very end.
You know, I'm not sure if Bill Barr said anything totally wrong there, right?
If half of the stuff in that indictment, and to be accurate, what he said was, if half of how Andy McCarthy describes the indictment is true, then Trump is toast.
But the truth is, Andy McCarthy and that indictment have virtually no truth to them, right?
None of that stuff that is being said about Donald Trump and how he has violated the law is going to prove out to be true.
So, you know, Barr's statement is still correct.
Trump might be toast if that stuff was true.
It just isn't true.
So what do you think is next for Trump?
Because I don't think the indictments are stopping.
You mentioned the DeSantis announcement.
I'm not sure that we're going to have Republican debates in the traditional sense.
I think, especially with this criminal prosecution and others upcoming, he'll be barred from some networks, maybe even Fox folks.
I'm just saying, all you conservatives that love your mainstream media, that's a very real possibility.
And your frontrunner doesn't even, isn't even able to be in the debates.
Now, does this stop him from running?
I don't think so.
Does it stop him from winning?
Well, in the corrupt system that still hasn't been changed since 2020, where it appears he won in a landslide, Chris.
I think there are some barriers there, some challenges.
What are your thoughts?
Yeah, I mean, I agree with you 100% about that.
And I think that a lot of people on our side do agree with that.
I have a slightly different perspective on this than I think a lot of other people do.
I don't really see this as a goal here is not to win an election, especially not a rigged election, right?
So if that's not the goal, if that's not what's going to solve the problem, and it certainly won't, then we need another solution.
And I think that that solution comes when a, you know, a critical mass of our society is awake to the point of understanding that our government really is thoroughly corrupt and that the media really did lie to them about Donald Trump and that Donald Trump really did win the election in 2020 and he won by a lot.
You know, the perspective on this being a 50-50 country, that's not true.
The perspective that believes that the global regime is fully in charge of what's happening right now, that also is not true.
You know, so for me, everything that enhances and speeds along that process of awakening is good.
This process has to happen.
And Donald Trump has to allow it to happen to him first in order to make it legitimate when the other side is finally held to account.
And, you know, people can blackpill and say that that's never going to happen.
But if you're going to resign yourself to that view, if you're going to accept that we will always live under rigged elections, I mean, what is the purpose of a country?
What is the purpose of each and every one of our human lives if we are going to resign ourselves to living as serfs and subjects?
So, you know, I think that bring on the indictments, right?
Go ahead and do the Georgia indictment.
There's no substance underneath that, just as there was no substance underneath the New York indictment for Alvin Bragg.
And so they can keep going.
They can keep proving that Trump is right.
You know, he's out there giving speeches for his campaign, laughing and smiling, and his supporters are doing the same thing.
Whatever they're trying, it's not working.
Well, I'd like to say this once again.
I'd love to see a real special prosecutor.
Love to see the gloves come off as they did against him and only see indictments, successful prosecutions, and jail time.
It would be a miracle in a sense.
But let's get away from the black pill and go to the other side for a second because there is a person currently on the quote-unquote other side, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who is speaking about a lot of the issues that people who have awakened to the military-industrial complex and big pharma want to hear about.
And he is even being popular in polls with mainline Democrats who are demanding that Joe Biden debate him.
Now, I don't think we're going to get that debate, but what are your thoughts on the RFK Jr. run?
Well, I find it really intriguing and fascinating.
I think it's a joy to watch.
You know, he's probably not going to get a debate with Joe Biden.
He is currently more popular in polls than Ron DeSantis is.
Ron DeSantis is being treated in the most serious way a Republican presidential candidate could ever be treated because he's seen as the non-Trump option.
You know, Robert F. Kennedy, I think, is going to do an incredible job in waking up people who still need to be woken up about big pharma, about the climate hoax, about what the CIA and the FBI have done in our country, the corruption of the deep state.
And I think ultimately he's going to wake up people on that side about the reality of rigged elections and election fraud because there is no way in the world that the Democrats are going to allow him to be the nominee of the Democrat Party.
And he, by the time these primaries would be happening, I fully believe that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. would be and will be the most popular Democrat candidate.
So when they see the political party, when Democrat voters see their political party willing to do that, I think that that's going to really wake them up, not only to the corruption in the Democrat Party, but the fact that they absolutely would steal an election from Donald Trump.
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And the last step they would need is just to believe that Republicans, corrupt Republicans, would go along with that.
And once they believe that, we're good to go.
Chris Paul, always a pleasure.
And let me just say this.
I think that the largest step, the step that we need to take for free, fair, and honest elections is to eliminate the machines altogether, go back to a paper ballot system, which is not perfect, but much less corruptible.
And then, of course, have a voter ID system that is legitimate throughout all 50 states.
That and empowering humanity with the technology we have to audit it, we could have free and fair elections again and maybe get our constitutional republic back.
He's the host of Be Reasonable.
Thank you so much, Chris.
Thank you.
You got it.
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