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Feb. 23, 2023 - Info Warrior - Jason Bermas
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He Was Accused Of What And Went Where? | Reality Rants With Jason Bermas
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We have developed speed, but we have shut ourselves in.
Machinery that gives abundance has left us in want.
We think too much and feel too little.
More than machinery, we need humanity.
We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat, as if that's the way it's supposed to be.
We know things are bad, worse than bad.
They're crazy. Silence!
The great and powerful Oz knows why you have come.
You gotta say, I'm a human being!
Goddammit! My life has value!
You have meddled with the primal forces of nature!
Don't give yourselves to brutes, men who despise you, enslave you, who regiment your lives, tell you what to do, what to think, or what to feel, who drill you, diet you, treat you like cattle, use you as cannon fodder!
Don't give yourselves to these unnatural men.
Machine men with machine minds and machine hearts.
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Good morning, everybody.
I am Jason Bermas.
This is Reality Rants.
We are live 8 a.m.
Monday through Thursday across a multitude of platforms talking about a multitude of issues.
Many of which I think are extremely important, underreported, if reported at all, in the alternative press.
And not what everybody is talking about all the time with the same boring talking points.
Alright? And this story is one of the wilder stories out there.
In that it seems so horrific, so unbelievable.
First of all, I don't want to believe it.
I read some of the details, and if you believe the details in this case, it is absolutely beyond comprehension of a normal, functioning human being to understand how this could happen.
And what am I discussing?
Well... If you've been following the Burma's Brigade for a while, you know that I will often talk about occultic aspects to a lot of the nefarious things that we see come into fruition.
And sometimes they seem totally disconnected.
Like, it should be totally disconnected that nuclear power...
And the atom bomb, right?
Were conceived through a occultic club via the Bohemian Grove.
Okay? That seems totally ridiculous and impossible.
Why would that happen? And then you get into, like, Jack Parsons and his rocket program.
And then you look at von Braun and the Nazis and their occult ties and symbolism.
You're like, wow, this is pretty bizarre.
And then you get into the 80s quote-unquote satanic panic.
Now, this is what I'm going to say about that.
I was watching Gutfeld last night, and they were talking about the whole transgender issue when we're talking about children.
And by the way, I've got a little poot-poot we're going to play, delivering his State of the Union address.
I'm going to ask, what do you think?
Was he wrong here?
Did he get anything wrong?
Is the majority of this correct?
Is it hard to argue with?
I'm going to make the case that it is hard to argue with.
I watched the whole State of the Union, but this two-minute clip, it's like, well, I mean, low-hanging fruit, easy target.
However, Gutfeld was like, are we just becoming more aware, etc.?
Is this going to get turned over?
And look, you look, for instance, at some of the bigger cases there, the McMartin trial in particular, that was overturned in the last five or six years, and those people were released.
Now, if they are indeed guilty of what is said, that's also alarming.
It's like, what in the hell is going on here?
And really for me, when it comes to the meat and potatoes of that era, and when you find out who these people are, and we're talking about some big power brokers, right?
A story of power brokers, child abuse, and betrayal.
It's again, beyond comprehension.
So over the last, I'd say, probably six months now, close to six months, There has been a case in Utah that was allegedly reopened.
Derek Brose of the Conscious Resistance has done some really great original work and follow-up work to a gentleman named Adam Herbits.
And Adam is a local reporter on the scene of Utah.
And he actually asked questions of David Levitt.
In fact, maybe we'll do that live and have you watch him ask about the questions.
And Levitt brushes it off.
But essentially, there was a case back in the day.
That accused Levitt and other high players because Levitt has, first of all, in government, got a little cheese, got some serious business dealings.
Okay? Very, very true detective-esque.
If true. If true.
It's like if you took the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, you coupled that with horrific child abuse, okay?
And the Franklin scandal...
Weave it into a true detective timeline.
And that's what you seem to get here.
Okay? So Levitt, he had an election, I believe, and he lost.
Because he was the Utah County Attorney.
Okay? Now he's the former Utah County Attorney.
And if you want to know the details of that case, thelastamericanvagabond.com has a great run through.
Derek Brose points you to the source documents so you can read the accusations yourself.
Then again, they're out of a horror movie.
If you're reading those things and you're contemplating that this could be real and true, you should feel uneasy.
But as I'm going to show you, there are monsters among us everywhere.
Everywhere there are monsters among us.
Make no mistake.
Okay? So, let's start here with this.
David O'Levitt just posted this.
It's not often you get the opportunity to fill a lifelong dream.
Shellam and I have had a dream to purchase and lovingly restore a historic property to preserve and protect it for future generations.
Oh, they're so benevolent.
You've got to love the virtue signaling all the time.
You know, we want to restore this for future generations.
I was the Utah County Attorney for the community.
For the people.
We've just purchased a castle in Scotland that we get to restore together is our dream.
We've started a blog that gives the details of the location of the castle and our progress.
I hope you'll follow it.
And it's whatthehellididwedo.com.
Now apparently he's in Scotland now.
What. The. Hell. I. Did. We. Do. Dot. Com.
Do I need a WW dot in front of that?
Oh, sorry. Whatthehellidwedo.com No, there it is right there.
No I. What the hell did?
Alright. I'm going to try it again.
What the hell did we do dot com?
No? So what is it again?
What the hell? Yeah, it's whatthehelldidwedo.com.
I'm going to try it one more.
Do.com.
I think I've got it there, right?
Nope. What the hell?
One more time.
I'm terrible, guys. Thumbs it up.
Subscribe and share. Whatthehelldidwedo.com.
There it is. Man.
Bright and early. Bright and early.
So, yeah, no, they did it.
So, I mean, apparently they bought a castle.
So this guy has flourished.
You know, I'm going to talk about this later with Ray.
That, you know, sometimes the scum rises to the top.
Now, again, I don't trust this guy.
But will he ever be tried for his crimes if he did commit them now that he's in Scotland in a castle?
Because, you know, I know that when I get accused by multiple people of violent, terrible, ritualistic abuse of children, what I do is after I lose the election is I go by a castle and leave the country.
Okay. I want to hit these other stories just to kind of give you a feel for, listen, there are terrible people out there.
Miami high school coach, 37, is arrested for filming sex act between two 16-year-old students in classroom on Valentine's Day.
A man gave them a fist bump and then asked Earl to have sex with him because he likes minors.
This man's almost 40 in Florida.
There he is.
And unfortunately, things like this, more prevalent than you'd like to admit, That's why you've got to have conversations with your children, even when it's tough, even during the teenage years.
But, it gets worse.
Youth pastor said, I don't care when learning age of 16-year-old he's sexually abused, said deputies.
And here you go, another 36-year-old man.
Okay? Mother of the victim, I believe, is 38.
I don't care!
Isn't that nice?
Just... Hmm.
No big deal.
So, these are actually a little bit lighter than the next two.
Shock is police investigate a record 31,000 CP images, and one in three of them are found online.
That means, you know, 10,000 of them.
And not only, I mean, they're all found online, but we're talking about regular social media.
I don't know how the actual moderators that are getting out the really disturbing, distressing, grotesque stuff can even go to work.
I don't know how you could watch this stuff to even regulate it.
In law enforcement as well.
I mean, it's necessary.
I'll tell you right now. You think Corn Pop was a bad dude.
A lot of these people are really bad dudes.
48 arrested.
8 children rescued in major San Diego human trafficking bus.
By the way, this is all this week.
It's not like I had to search for these stories.
I just wanted to hammer the point home of how this is like everywhere.
And you can ignore it Or you can face it head on.
Alright? It's...
Law enforcement in San Diego launched a major human trafficking operation that resulted in the successful rescue of eight children.
And the arrest of 48 individuals, officials announced Tuesday since January 9th, local, state, and federal law enforcement agencies completed 17 operations in San Diego and National City neighborhoods, part of a larger undertaking to address human trafficking called Operation Better Pathways.
Law enforcement said 16 people being trafficked were rescued overall, including eight children.
The youngest of the children was 13 years old.
She has since been reunited with her family.
Two of the victims rescued were 16-year-old runaways from Arizona, San Diego Police Chief David Nislett said during Tuesday's briefing.
All right? Eight kids.
Some as young as 13.
Okay? And look, this is one of the things that I was talking about with my brother while he was here.
And he's like, look man, it's a whole other world in some of these places.
You go somewhere, I think he specifically said like Louisiana, or in the boondocks, and all of a sudden this is all these people know, and these kids don't have social security numbers.
They're hidden away. Maybe on a place called The Farm.
Some people will get that reference.
Some people who know they didn't have to unlock the WikiLeaks.
It's just there. So, that's what I wanted to lead in with Via Reality Rants.
Just putting it out there.
This guy out in Scotland...
Revitalizing Castles, doing very well for himself, accused of horrific things.
Okay? And over the last 48 hours, I pulled up four or five stories of horrific things going on in this country that are underreported.
And they'll tell you, there's no epidemic of human trafficking or child abuse.
Really? Really?
Now, I'm not saying the numbers don't get conflated and that people glom on to things with a sensationalist-type spin.
But the bottom line is when you look at the...
There is no spin on the Levitt case.
Either it happened or it didn't.
And if it happened, we are in big trouble.
And if you know the stuff that I cover...
And the fact that it appears that a lot of these people are protected for a very long time, we're in big trouble.
Alright. I want to move it along to Sir Poot Poot.
And we're going to play this clip.
I'm curious to see what my audience has to say here.
As a lot of you know, I'm certainly not a hardline religious person.
I believe in freedom of religion.
I believe that there is a concerted effort to get rid of organized religion and the idea of a deity or a morality based in a deity, whether that's Jesus Christ or Any of the other major religions.
Doesn't really matter to me.
I see a concerted effort to get rid of all of that and trust the science.
That's bad news, Brown.
And one of my favorite films out there that's so underrated and now so old school, Expelled No Intelligence Allowed by Ben Stein, where he talks about the idea of eugenics and getting rid of God.
Alright? And...
Bare minimum, I'm a guy that does believe in intelligent design.
Okay? And I think that's an argument that needs to be had.
And there are some that will say, well, you know, you could have intelligent design if it's the seeding by an alien race.
Oh. Oh. I mean, when we're getting to quote-unquote alien races and all this other speculation...
You might as well have deity in the mix.
Just saying. And deity, I guess, could mean a broad number of things.
But without further ado, this is already translated.
You're only going to hear about dictator Putin and the very real deal that he's now off, totally, publicly saying, we're done with these treaties and nuclear warfare.
Get ready. Very dangerous.
Very dangerous. I'm not trying to...
I'm neither trying to hype that up.
Okay, we've talked about it in a serious nature.
I don't think that you could hype it up enough, quite frankly, because of the consequential nature of anything nuclear happening.
You know it's going to be blamed on Russia at this point, whether they do it or not.
And they might do it.
And that changes the world forever.
In a very, very negative, negative way.
Fast-tracks a lot of the Fourth Industrial Revolution agendas, I promise you.
So here's the Putscher basically talking about the destruction of our culture and really the modern destruction of the nuclear family.
It cannot ignore the fact that Russia cannot be defeated on the battlefield.
So, they're waging increasingly aggressive information attacks.
First of all, targeting the young generations, lying on every step, distorting historical truth, attacking our culture, the Russian Orthodox Church and other traditional religious institutions in our country.
Now, look at what they're doing with their own peoples.
They're destroying the institution of family, their cultural and historical identity, and various perversions with regard to children up to pedophilia.
So far, it's hard to say that he hasn't said anything that's real.
And this isn't, whoa, go Vladimir!
But they have been normalizing this stuff.
You know, I saw somebody...
I'm in a fraternity.
One of the older guys posts something about some horrible meme about, oh, well, your kid's living in a world where they're doing duck and cover shooting drills all the time for Code Reds, and you're worried about drag queens in school.
Yeah! Yeah!
And one of my other buddies goes, I teach my kids to run away from pedophiles.
Oh, you're so ignorant!
If I wanted to, I'd go down the line of just the last month.
The Dalton Report, Open Secret, great Twitter handles to follow for this stuff.
Where you have these drag queens that are also activists, that want access to your kids, that in fact, what?
Get caught with children.
He's not wrong.
And it goes even beyond the disturbing sexual nature of this and the destruction of innocence and the destruction of society and culture into what?
That transhumanist agenda.
It's very real.
It's very real....are accepted as the new norm and priests are forced to recognize and officiate same-sex weddings.
People can live however they want.
And we in Russia have never intruded into people's private life.
So, you know, that's probably the biggest hot-button part of it.
Ooh, ooh, he dared speak out against same-sex marriage.
And look, I said this, and I'll say it again, before all the marriage stuff finally got passed into national law, and there was that hill to die on where you had a few states that were allowing it, and You had gay couples going there to get married.
I always said this. Look, if you look into it, marriage is more of a religious institution than a government one.
Why don't you just appease both sides and leave marriage between a man and a woman and then call whatever you want, civil union, call it marriage, larage, carriage. I don't care. And give these people the same exact rights.
Period. Call it something different.
Give them that. You can't even do that.
You have to blur the lines even more.
And just like Putin said, do what you want as an adult.
I don't care who you live with or who you love.
Keep children out of it.
That's all I ask.
And we're not going to do that.
But what we want to say...
Maybe they should take a look in the scripture, into the holy book of any great religion.
It says that the family is a union between woman and man.
And these holy texts are now being increasingly doubted in the West.
The Anglican Church is now considering the idea of a gender-neutral God.
What can we say? God forgive them.
They don't know what they're doing.
God forgive them.
They don't know what they're doing.
And again, this gender neutral God, this non-binary nonsense is an extension of the AI into a transhumanist agenda.
You know, I've been going back and forth yesterday with Kurt Metzger, who I recently met at a comedy show that a buddy of mine was opening for in Wisconsin.
And this is why you have conversations with people.
Because I started talking to him about transhumanism and these other things.
Finally I brought up Martin Rothblatt.
I had no idea about Rothblatt.
I kind of just briefly explained how this whole transgender thing is to move you into non-carbon based life.
Okay? And so you reject any types of these social norms, etc.
And I tell him about Rothblatt and I show him some things and I'm blowing his mind.
So now he started really looking into Martine Rothblatt and the transhumanist transgender connection.
This is a spiritual battle as much as it is a biological one.
And I'm not up here preaching and telling you what to believe.
When I say spiritual, I believe that humanity is special.
That we do have a vast connection.
Okay, to the ethos around us, that surrounds us.
And instead, they want to replace you with this hogwash, with this Johnny nonsense.
And this is tongue-in-cheek, sure, but I don't care for it.
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Okay, that's the robot that I believe it's UAE or Saudi Arabian citizenship.
That's Grace's cousin.
Remember, Grace runs on Cardano, right?
In this internet of bodies, in this biomedical techno-fascist revolution.
That's the reality.
You know, I talk about collective swarms and drones, etc.
There's this rather extended...
20-plus minute interview with somebody who's developing drones that look and act like birds and use the flapping mechanism.
I did want to play just a little bit of that.
Let's see. Do some of that.
Pause this. Bring it to about the minute mark right here just so you can take a look.
And yeah, it looks pretty crude.
But remember, this is what they're showing you.
And the kinematics and the flights of birds...
So that got me to be introduced to the biomimicry, and that's basically all my research that I'm doing here at New Mexico Tech, where we can learn from nature to develop optimized autonomous systems, including drones.
So for these specific projects, drones in general, they have like 200 potential applications in our daily life, which they are mainly civil applications.
And one of the applications that we have been targeting is drones for wildlife monitoring.
Okay. Wildlife monitoring.
By the way, you're the wildlife.
You're the wildlife.
And eventually...
They want co-opted insects.
And they already really have co-opted insects.
They want actual biological drones that have built-in technology.
Years ago, public knowledge, they would grow these chips in the larval brains...
of insects and then they would remotely control the bugs after the fact.
Not science fiction, folks.
Not science fiction.
So here's what we're going to do.
I got this great interview with Ray Dietrich, the founder of Red Voice Media.
We are going to do what we did yesterday.
We're going to play the first half here on the free portion of the broadcast.
The rest of this...
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Redvoicemedia.com slash Jason.
Redvoicemedia.com slash uncensored.
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You're going to find out, if you are on premium during the second half of this interview, that we are expanding over here.
And, you know, he's got a new studio coming up.
He's got producers coming in.
Hopefully we're going to have more cool guests.
But the discussion that we end up having is really about law enforcement in general and the necessity for checks and balances within these systems, whether it's your local police or an international intelligence organization.
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Here we go. Hey everybody, Jason Burmus here, and for the next hour or so, we've got a treat, in my opinion, because...
Red Voice Media has allowed me to really talk about whatever I like and have diverse opinions from some of the mainline stuff that you may see in other alternative or conservative media.
And when I've been talking about the Tyler Nichols case or really any case in particular of High-level abuse within our justice system via the police department.
I often talk about how when you have units that don't have supervision and really don't report to anybody, they can get out of control.
And with the Tyler Nichols thing, as much as they tried to make it about race, obviously that wasn't the issue.
Now, I think that you run the risk of those things a lot more often when you have people that are obviously not qualified for the position, okay, where the oversight is not there.
And I don't think we've scratched the surface as to how deep it goes.
Now, I often refer to the Shields.
As one of my favorite television shows, especially about law enforcement, because it gets into one of these units out in the Los Angeles area.
And basically you had a by-the-book cop that had a unit and didn't have oversight.
And incrementally they become more and more corrupt to the point that they become a criminal organization themselves.
Now on the flip side of that...
The founder of Red Voice Media, Ray Dietrich.
It's somebody who experienced the real thing for many years.
And I would be remiss to say, first of all, I've never been a defund the police guy.
And I've never been a guy that says, look, we've got to get rid of the whole military.
We're going to have an imagination land, anarchy, and the non-aggression principle.
That's not real.
People use force.
Whether you want to use force or not, there will be people that will use their force as much as they can until there is pushback.
That's reality. That's human nature.
So, you know, you need a military.
You need intelligence organizations.
And I do believe that you obviously need undercover officers and units.
So to kind of discuss the balance between oversight, informants, things that maybe bend the law a bit, and really have a broad discussion, not only About the police department and what I think is, you know, not very much a racial issue as they try to make it out to be.
They often do that. But really an issue of accountability and police brutality that goes beyond, you know, and not holding the people that are blatantly doing this accountable, opening the door for other bad actors.
So, I blabbered enough.
We went almost three minutes there on Reality Rants without even letting my guest and the owner of the network speak.
So, Ray, let's kick it off.
First of all, describe how you got involved in such a unit, what years you were involved, and I guess the positive aspects of that.
Sure. You know, I spent 17 years, you know, sworn law enforcement, right?
In Southern California area, Los Angeles County, Riverside County, like busy areas, right?
My career started in the jail, like all deputy sheriffs do, and then I get out to patrol, do my thing, and I became a training officer, and I probably trained a dozen deputies how to do their job, right?
And that's probably one of the most important jobs there is, because you try to duplicate good behavior.
And then I ended up going to the teams, right?
And that's what you're talking about. That's why I called you.
I was like, Jason, we have to talk about this shield thing.
And by the way, the shield is awesome.
Vic Mackey, great character.
That was spun up after the Rampart scandal in LAPD. So it's kind of based loosely on that unit.
In the first place, it's not really based on reality, but it was right after that they spun it up in the same area, the whole thing.
So I ended up working on two special teams where it's just what you're talking about, right?
Undercover, surveillance, informants, search warrants, raids, doing all those things.
And I worked on a team in Himmet, California, where we basically handled local problems.
Because here's how these units are important.
And this is what I wanted to talk to you about, right?
After that, I worked a gang team, a gang task force with multi-agent jurisdiction, cross-trained and sworn in to the California DOJ and all this crap.
We had a border patrol guy, we had this guy, we had this guy, blah, blah, blah.
Real effective gang task force team on a large scale in a large area.
But how this works is, look, patrol cops are not really the ones that are going to keep you safe.
They're going to be the ones that show up at your house when you call.
Or if something happens, they're there to pick up the pieces.
But these guys are running from call to call to call in busy areas.
And mostly I'm talking about busy areas with this kind of stuff.
They're either running the calls, you know, writing reports or looking for someone to pull over, like just a random contact of maybe a criminal.
They're not the ones that are hunting the predators, right?
Like the really bad guys.
They don't have time. They can't sit up in front of a house for three or four days or follow someone around and find out his dope routes and his connections to the Mexican cartels.
Like they can't track down with informants And arrest a gang of Nazis.
Literally, they do exist because I helped do that with an informant and we put, I think, six or seven of them in jail for attempt murder or greater.
Those teams are super necessary, super necessary to keep people safe because they're the ones that have the time.
They don't have to respond to calls.
They can follow up on crimes.
They're like your best chance to actually get someone off the street before they hurt somebody.
The problem, and you can cut me off anytime, but the problem with them, and you're correct, is it's a supervision thing.
Some of these teams, they can get really wildly out of control.
Yes, I was in law enforcement for a long time.
I'm a multi-generational cop, all those things.
But I don't back the blue 100% all of the time.
Like, I refuse to do that.
Because even when I worked in law enforcement, I thought 30% of them probably shouldn't be there anyways.
That's a high number. I mean, that's your roll on the dice.
That's one out of three. Yeah, 100%.
I'm not saying that you give a police officer everything they want, but you try to be courteous and you try to make that interaction, I guess, as non-confrontational as possible throughout, and you're going to find the best results.
But it often does, I guess you could say, depend on the person, right?
We're talking about those kind of things.
In my mind, you know...
Let's roll through your unit.
What was the specific levels that these people had in experience?
Because obviously with this Nichols unit, and I'd like you to kind of compare and contrast that, you had a lot of guys that looked like they were on the force less than five years out of that four or five person team.
One that already had a questionable record before he was hired, as in the standards were lowered.
I think that's a mixture for disaster, especially, you know, whether people like to say this or not, has nothing to do with the color of their skin, in my opinion.
People that are actually from that community and have that street mentality.
I don't care what color you are.
But you put that into the mix.
Now, that can be a benefit if you have somebody who's been there a long time, has a good record, is utilizing that.
I would assume those are kind of the people that you want as an informant because it's so hard to trust criminals or anybody.
But at the same time...
I would say that you want some outside looking in within the unit to keep it.
First of all, you want people that are qualified, but then you want to keep it in check and going in a certain direction.
So talk about how many people were in your unit over the years and what levels of law enforcement experience they had.
Yeah, I mean, between the two teams, we had a small unit in my first one, it was probably five, and that one was actually a less experienced team.
I had seven years on and had already been a training officer for quite some time before I did that.
There was guys that only had a couple years patrol though, right?
That team, it was a small pool to pull from.
So you had like 40 people at that station to pull from.
Very small station there.
performance. So they they pulled in the people who were tactically sound, did good work, hustled and
all those kinds of things. My second team was was a bigger team. It was like a bigger deal,
right? Like the interagency task force. You know, nobody had less than 10 years on that team.
Our supervisor who rolled with us had 20 years of surveillance and work in narcotics investigations on our team.
So that team was much more put together than the other one as far as the experience levels.
But it's not always experience, Jason.
Experience... In what?
Because how it works for real, like in the cop world, is you can drive around a car for 20 years and tell everyone you have 20 years on as a cop and you're not doing anything, right?
Like you don't have experience because you're experienced at trying to get out of work.
And that's unfortunately a huge percentage of cops.
There's like that crust of 10, 15% that do all of the heavy lifting in law enforcement.
And that's just reality. And I'm not scared to talk about that, right?
So it's almost a race to get...
The ones who are willing to do extra dangerous shit.
I mean, that's what we're talking about, kicking in doors and search warrants.
You know, that's where the bad things happen.
So you're trying to filter more than just time on or what is considered experience with your work ethic and how you operate as a cop.
So, you know, it's a very difficult thing for selection on these because then you also have to worry more about Will the team get together or get along together, right?
So a lot of it, you know, to be honest, they sit around and we talk about within the teams, who's next, right?
Make sure everyone's on the same page.
Yeah, we know this person's good because of X, Y, and Z. So most of the special teams I've been around are like that.
I mean, it's kind of almost a self-selection.
And that's also where they can get in trouble, right?
Like 100%.
Because if you don't have, you know, and I left, I was a supervisor for four years.
I was a sergeant before I left.
And that's one of the most important positions, are there?
Like the sergeant is like your field person.
Lieutenants, captains, all of them, they don't even know what's going on.
They probably don't even know the deputy's names.
It's the sergeant.
So, you know, you have to have the right ones in there on supervision and keep a tight rein.
Because I've worked for some that let us do whatever we want, 100%.
And I had good people I worked with, so we didn't get in trouble with it.
But you get the wrong mixture of people with really bad supervision that doesn't know their people.
I mean, it can go off the rails.
Absolutely. And guys have gotten in trouble a bunch over the years with that stuff.
So it's not necessarily like the level of experience.
It's really the quality of the cop.
Like, that's the only thing you can really look for when you're putting together one of these teams.
But, you know, it's...
I know you're not a defunder, but it's one of those things where if you take that away, I guarantee people are less safe.
Those are the guys who are getting the bad guys and getting the illegal guns and all the things off the street.
We would follow people around.
I've followed somebody for a long time, days.
You know, electronic surveillance, physical surveillance, all the things with teams.
And we're talking murder suspects that would drag us, you know, 100 miles in a different direction.
Patrol cops can't do any of that.
So you lose these kind of teams, you're not going to get the bad guys.
So let's talk about, I guess, what you would say was one of the most, if not the most, successful sting and operation that you took part in.
And then I'd like to contrast that with as much as you can tell me off of maybe the worst one and the one that went off the rails.
And maybe there was somebody that did some questionable things that maybe did have to either leave the team or be subject to some kind of subordination and punishment afterwards.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I've been in and set up and coordinated, you know, the multi-warrant location or the multi-location warrants are the big ones, right?
I've done, you know, 30 location hits, like looking in the gang world.
That's a big operation, right?
But the most successful, I would say, was kind of what I was alluding to earlier when we used, you know, Two or three informants to basically dismantle an actual skinhead gang.
Not like make-believe white supremacy in America, but, you know, people stomping out people in the street because they're brown or black, right?
Like, that does exist in America.
And we were able to use an informant over a period of two to three months.
So it wasn't a one-time operation, but these informants Would go party with these guys and then call us, right?
Like that deep, like in there.
Unleashed informants, which is also a very dangerous gray area when you're working informants.
Like informants can burn you.
They can get you killed. You can get them killed.
They have all of the reason to lie about everything to give you this information for their motives.
So you have to filter through all of those things and make sure you don't become friendly with them, right?
Well, the other thing is most of them are compromised right out of the gates, and that's how they become an informant in the first place.
Yeah, 100%. We snatch them up.
If someone comes to you as an informant and doesn't have a case, and you don't have anything over their head, then that's a problem informant, right?
They have another motive.
So you got to be really careful about their motives on giving somebody up, right?
And nobody likes snitches. I don't even like snitches, but sometimes they're necessary in that.
And to answer your question on the other side, honestly, in the teams, I personally didn't run into it.
I mean, I've seen plenty of things go terribly wrong and people get disciplined, but from the teams, I really haven't.
Excessive force in the past and all of those things.
I have responded as an investigator to a bad shooting, but this stuff doesn't come from the teams as much as you would think, like these kinds of units.
They can get out of control, but usually that's your patrol guys who don't have the right experience, who aren't getting selected on these special units because nobody wants them, because they either can't talk to people, they're heavy-handed, they're just assholes.
I mean, all of those things, right?
They're real people. That's the toughest thing about being called to defend law enforcement all the time.
How am I going to defend 800,000 active police officers and tell you that some of them aren't bad?
Right? Come on. It's just people.
Thank you. And I think that's important, the human element of all of it.
So let's talk about that human element.
Let's talk about this Nichols case.
So, number one, you know, obviously I don't think the punishment fits the crime, but he did run, right?
You know, it's not like they weren't being heavy hand with him, but he didn't just let them have their way.
And at some point ran away from these guys.
Obviously what ensued afterwards is Beyond words, this guy ends up dying.
But in short order, these guys are charged with murder.
In fact, they had their first day in court, I think, this week.
I believe I saw that.
Maybe even last week.
So that's actually a pretty speedy trial as well.
If you had to break down that entire incident with this unit, how he was pulled over, what happened, what ensued, and so far...
Do the charges, because we don't know what the punishment is yet, fit the crime?
Yeah, 100% the charges fit the crime.
I reviewed all the video they put out, read everything I could about it.
Because, you know, my lens, like being honest, is like, okay, everyone's saying these are murderers.
Let me take a look and see if I can shoot 40 holes through it like I can in most of these videos.
I looked at it and I go, okay, these guys are murderers.
The biggest thing I can tell you about that particular incident is once they chased him down and caught him, they stopped being cops.
A cop would have overcome the resistance if he was still fighting and put handcuffs on the man.
Searched him and arrested him.
They didn't even try to handcuff him.
And I haven't seen much of that.
I've never seen even a beating that didn't lead to murder at all.
At this magnitude ever in all this time in law enforcement.
I worked in LA and, you know, another agency in SoCal.
They didn't even try to handcuff him.
And, you know, my cop brain's like, well, maybe I don't know all the information and blah, blah, blah.
And, you know, let's see the facts.
And then I kept watching. And then when they stood him up and held his hands behind his back and beat him, they're just thugs, man.
There's zero defense for them.
But like you said, the speedy action of the criminal justice system here, that's what drives me nuts about when people protest so much about these kinds of incidents.
I understand this is a horrible incident, but...
You don't defund the police because of something like this happens.
Like I said, there's 800,000 cops.
They're going to commit crimes, and they're going to do terrible things.
What we have to worry about is the accountability afterwards.
And look, as a cop...
You have so much more scrutiny than the average person.
And when you go to court, if you fuck up and you're in court, you're going to get sentenced so much more than the average person because they know you know better.
You're held to a completely higher standard.
I think the criminal justice system does a pretty good job wrecking cops who screw up, right?
So we have to look at that.
Not as a win, but as an example of it actually working.
Like, we have a system set up.
We're going to have people do bad things on both sides of the law.
But did the system work?
And, you know, I would say it absolutely did on this.
So far, so good.
I'll say that, you know, I saw the lawyer for one of these gentlemen grandstanding saying,
you know, this is a black man in America.
Let's not forget that.
I'm like, what planet are we on?
When can we get to the idea that it doesn't matter what the hell the color of these people's
skin are.
And in most cases, even if they're different, you have the real systemic issue is with that
individual or unit or individuals they're working with.
Because whenever you do see a large case of corruption break in a large city area, I remember
years ago in New York City, you had a unit that was not only into prostitution, but dealing
drugs at the same time.
That's something that happens.
It's a problem with them.
It wasn't because they were Hispanic or Black or White or Asian or Chechen or any of that.
It's a problem with them.
And one of the things that I always pointed to in the Garner case, and of course, you know, there was a lot of people that said, well, you know, their choke was proper, he went by the books, etc.
Over loose cigarettes in New York City, that was a big-time problem for me.
But you saw the race baiters Like Al Sharpton tried to jump in there.
They're still jumping in now on this case, by the way, which is incredible to me.
And the family said, no, thank you.
They said, listen, this isn't a racial issue.
It's a police brutality issue.
Didn't matter what color my husband was or what color the officer was.
We need to hold these people accountable.
And the racial issue isn't one that we should be looking at.
Now, at the same time, you just discussed Hey, American History X, great movie, but based in some kind of reality, there really are those groups of people.
I'm curious, aside from just...
Picking people to physically assault and do whatever to.
These people are often involved in low-level drug crimes and trafficking as well, right?
I mean, you're looking at literal gangs that aside from their bigotry and hatred are also part of criminal organizations.
And I would even say this, I would posit this.
They often work with other gangs that aren't of the same color as them, don't they?
Yeah, especially when they go to jail and prison, right?
Like, 100%. The racist ideal goes out the window when there's money involved, right?
Like, that's what most of these gangs boil down to is cash.
And, you know, the dope, trafficking dope, sometimes prostitution, sometimes robbery rings.
You know, a lot of gangs are famous for doing home invasion robberies.
And all the different things.
And the white supremacist gangs are actually like the biggest fraudsters ever because they're a bunch of super tweakers who go out and steal mail all night and put their credit cards together and do their thing.
So, you know, these people...
The problem I have with the entire criminal justice system right now is how they're just reducing all of these crimes, like you saw at the MSU shooter, right?
They had a chance to get him disqualified from gun ownership and awoke Soros DA, reduced it from a felony to a misdemeanor on a concealed weapons charge.
And hold on, let me stop you there.
On top of that, I know you watch the show.
I played, that was Higgins, talking about these red flag laws.
Forget about an unknown tip.
You had this man's uncle call law enforcement several times saying that he was psychotic and mentally ill.
I guarantee he was on some type of psychotropic drugs.
Who knows? Maybe a dozen like that woman that we covered.
Still hasn't been brought out in the media.
He uses a handgun, not a weapon of war, And so far, as far as I know, there's no motive other than this guy was suicidal.
and we know on every single one of these labels that suicidal thoughts and actions, they never
throw the homicidal first in there.
But this guy shot himself in the head too.
And no one is pointing those things out.
So all the things they want were put into place.
Harsh gun laws, already could have had the felony charge.
Red flag laws, hell, we'll give you the uncle, it's even beyond that.
And nothing was done, right?
I'm sorry.
No, that's how it works.
Like, when the system is so worried about being woke, right, and pleasing a mob, and that's where we're at.
These DAs that are getting elected are running on basically letting everybody out of jail, you know, knocking down all of these crimes to misdemeanors because of systemic racism, right?
And here we are. The crime's through the roof.
People are less safe. It's a freaking mess, man.
And they have these tools in place.
They don't use them. Like, there's countless examples of these kind of things.
I think the MSU is a supremely good example of the justice system breaking down and getting people killed, right?
Because they had multiple opportunities to keep this from happening, but they didn't want to pursue justice on any of those things.
So you can't have it both ways.
So which way do they want it?
And look, here's the thing.
I think that, you know, felonies should be taken seriously.
And if you're, first of all, if you're a felon, number one, you should probably be charged, even if you end up getting a reduction in the sentence based on your past behavior.
I mean, look, anybody who's been part of the court system, even with something as simple as, you know, a speeding ticket, knows that you can plea down.
And if your record isn't that bad, you can plea down or gets an assault charge.
You know, you can usually plead.
There's a lot of things, even career criminals.
After a while, especially depending on your location, can plea these down.
The fact that over the last, I would say now, three plus years, maybe four, you've seen a movement for catch and release, no bail.
I'll never forget it.
It was on the eve, it was on New Year's Eve, like 8pm, you know, it gets dark about 5.30 around that time, where I was getting ready to actually put in my two weeks notice and run my bar for the last time.
Actually, I gave them two months.
And the catch and release thing was going into play the next day.
And I live off of Highway 88 and James Lettuce, a little highway, a couple bridges, but you're not supposed to go more than 45 miles an hour.
Very short stint.
You're talking about like a mile, maybe.
So all of a sudden, I see all these cop cars flashing lights under the bridge on the off-ramp right before you get on.
I'm like, what the hell's going on here?
A man, now he wasn't drunk or anything, but he did not have a license.
He had, I think, five violations and speeding tickets.
Like, she had no business being on the road.
Hit a woman who wasn't in a car.
Killed her. She was in critical condition there.
Did not survive. He didn't go to jail.
They didn't even book him.
The actual police station is less than a mile away from And they didn't even take him into booking.
And I was just like, look, man, whether or not he has a criminal record or whatever, you should at least, if you're going to catch and release him, you should at least book him.
They let him just go on his way.
I'm like, what is this?
And then retroactively in areas like Albany and Schenectady, you saw people that because of the circumstances had actually killed people.
But they didn't go with first degree murder or voluntary homicide.
And they were just being let out of jail.
That sounds absurd and obscene and impossible, but it has been a movement in this country and it's a reality happening every day.
Yeah, I got another example for you.
It's super extreme.
My old department, Riverside Sheriff, we had a deputy murdered in December named Isaiah Cordero.
And the suspect who killed him, multiple time convicted, violent felon, you know, gun charges, all of the things.
He had recently been convicted in a case of felony assault where a Highway Patrol canine was stabbed in the vehicle he was in.
It was like a fight. So he went to court.
The judge sends him to prison, but suspended it and let him go home for like 90 days.
I think it was 90 days before he had to report to prison.
And guess what? He didn't report.
And when some motor cop pulled up on him, you know, not knowing that this guy is supposed to be in prison, he shot him and killed him.
And these kinds of things are happening over and over.
So much of the violent crime that people are experiencing right now, if you dig in and look at the suspect's record and how the justice system dealt with them, These people shouldn't have been out, and the crime shouldn't have been happening.
But they're trading, like, woke ideas for votes, right?
Like, that's what this boils down to.
They're pandering for votes, and they'll just destruct the justice system to do it, and they don't care.
They just keep pushing.
It's insane to me, man, because, look, I've never...
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