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Feb. 21, 2023 - Info Warrior - Jason Bermas
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We have developed speed, but we have shut ourselves in.
Machinery that gives abundance has left us in want.
We think too much and feel too little.
More than machinery, we need humanity.
We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat, as if that's the way it's supposed to be.
We know things are bad, worse than bad.
They're crazy. Silence!
The great and powerful Oz knows why you have come.
You've got to say, I'm a human being!
God damn it! My life has value!
You have meddled with the primal forces of nature!
Don't give yourselves to brutes, men who despise you, enslave you, who regiment your lives, tell you what to do, what to think, or what to feel, who drill you, diet you, treat you like cattle, use you as cannon fodder!
Don't give yourselves to these unnatural men.
Machine men with machine minds and machine hearts.
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Good morning, everybody.
Good morning. It is Reality Rant with Jason Bermas.
And we've got a great show lined up for you this Tuesday morning, bright and early as always.
Rocking it 8 a.m.
Eastern Time, Monday through Thursday.
First hour free, second hour over at redvoicemedia.com slash Jason.
About 30 minutes into the show today.
We are going to go with an interview I finally got done last night with Ian Crossland of possibly the biggest podcast in the world right now, of course.
That is TimCast IRL. And we have been meaning to do this show now for some time.
Extremely excited to finally...
Finally get that done and kind of have a broad discussion about now technology, graphene, and transhumanism in general.
So that's coming up in about 30 minutes.
But before all that, I got some clips lined up.
We'll see what we get through in the first hour.
But the first one that I want to play, okay, is a video from 2017 Depicting modern-day slavery via these cobalt mines, which are going to have to up production if we're going to go green with future technology, which isn't future technology.
It's already here, but how do you scale it up?
And why are you scaling it up?
And who are you scaling it up for?
And for what purpose?
Really the purpose is the illusion that the planet can't sustain human beings anymore.
Alright? And human beings are bad.
Too many people doing too much stuff.
So we're going to say that fossil fuels are bad, bad, bad.
Even though every other trick we've used back in the day didn't work.
We're still going with this one.
And that's the reality, right?
They're constantly telling you how bad these things are for the Earth.
It's so bad. But I was thinking about it yesterday.
And there was a gentleman out there, ended up taking his own life, unfortunately, Michael Rupert.
And Michael Rupert not only was a whistleblower who was a cop in Los Angeles in the 80s, but someone who did a really great job.
PowerPoint, I guess you could call it presentation, without the PowerPoint.
This was like the old school had the see-through slides on the projector via 9-11.
And the Central Intelligence Agency and all the different banking cartels and airline cartels that they helped found or were directly involved in.
Very impressed by that.
Wrote a book called Crossing the Rubicon.
Alright? Pretty excellent book except for one thing.
This misnomer, this lie of peak oil.
And that the real reason we went into the Middle East is because we were hitting peak oil and we needed to tap other reserves.
This was a lie. This was wrong.
Peak oil never happened.
Still hasn't happened. Okay?
It's a facade.
Okay? There is no peak oil.
Now, Rupert also had a documentary made about him where he basically sits there and spouts off.
I watched him lecture one time on an anniversary of 9-11.
You know, he had talked about meeting up with somebody like Leo DiCaprio and very elated that he and Leo had been in contact and had dinner.
And look...
I like Leo DiCaprio movies.
I think he's a talented actor.
I think he's been bamboozled by the system.
Rupert ended up taking his own life, by the way.
That's almost a whole other can of worms within this business, if you will, of alternative media that has taken twists and turns that possibly were unpredictable.
But in any sort of media, in any sort of business, you're going to have ego.
And sometimes ego gets the better of people, unfortunately.
It's really sad what happened with Michael Rupert because I do believe that a lot of his research was the real deal, but the peak oil thing was total and complete Johnny nonsense.
So what I need people to understand is...
The folks at the top, behind this agenda, that continue to push it on us, don't care about you.
They don't care about the planet, and they certainly don't care about the slaves, including children, that they will have to basically physically and mentally torture on a daily basis To push their agenda through.
And it couldn't be any more in your face.
This is one of the thousands of unregulated, unmonitored mines in the DRC. It's crawling with children, working like modern-day slaves.
A 12-hour-long day of punishing work may earn them the equivalent of a pound.
Although one of the poorest countries on earth, DRC is rich in minerals.
But a history of brutal colonial exploitation looks like being repeated now.
And here's the thing, these places are rich with resources, not just minerals.
Do they get to share in the wealth, in the infrastructure?
No, they don't want to build their infrastructure because they want to keep these people as serfs and slaves.
But they love us, and they're building us the best infrastructure ever.
In 2017, much of it's mined by hand with rudimentary tools in harsh, potentially hazardous conditions.
And wretched whether or not the rush is on for a mineral the DRC has in great abundance, cobalt.
And it's fast becoming more precious than gold.
It's a critical ingredient in lithium-ion batteries which power smartphones and laptops.
And of course, EVs.
This is 2017. This is six years ago.
The production's already upscaled.
Do you think the conditions have gotten any better for these people?
An army of children are at the heart of the mining production.
Wearing no shoes and in the most wretched conditions, Dorsan is ordered to retrieve the sack he's forgotten.
There's an urgency now.
The rains make this dangerous work even more risky, and Dorsan's told in no uncertain terms he risks a beating if he messes up again.
Dorsan, with Richard beside him, have worked all day.
They're 8 and 11 years old.
Even this punishing work doesn't guarantee enough for food.
Dorsan hasn't eaten for two days now.
I mean, my God.
That's a one-minute excerpt, and I realize the media is manipulative.
This is Sky News Australia, by the way.
But I don't know how you watch something like that and think, you know, that's something that kid should be doing.
Now, I'm not saying... That you couldn't build character working with your son or your daughter in specific situations where we're all pitching.
This is day in, day out, slave labour.
Learn to do it or get beaten.
This is what Helpless looks like.
And he's one of the children making millions for multinational corporations in America and China Millions?
We're talking about billions.
And really, it's not even just the money, it's the infrastructure that becomes theirs.
That's the real power.
Whilst they suffer in squalor.
For this, they'll get maybe eight British pence a day.
When I wake up every morning, I feel terrible knowing I have to come back here again.
My God. Everything hurts.
When I'm working here, I'm suffering.
My mother, she's already dead and I have to work all day and my head hurts me.
The tunnels are dug by hand with no supports.
They frequently collapse, especially during rain.
The miners climb down using holes carved in the rock and no safety equipment.
This most precious of minerals is often extracted and sorted by tiny hands.
They don't wear gloves or masks, yet the World Health Organization says exposure to cobalt and breathing in its dust fumes can cause long-term health problems.
Oh, you think? Oh, you think?
We visited five different mines across the south of DRC and found all used child workers.
Monica's the youngest worker in this group at just four.
But even those barely able to walk have lost their childhoods to mining.
Natalie's 12 years old.
My fingers hurt, she tells us.
Miles away, on a different site, Mukumba Mateba shows us the cobalt tunnel he's dug with three of his friends.
It's physically tough work.
They removed all this rock by hand over nearly four months.
It's incredibly insecure for them.
Although this is really rich in minerals, and it's going down just 15 meters, there's no support bars.
They have no protective masks or protective equipment at all.
And right at the bottom, I can see water.
You know, there was another video.
It was about a minute long. It's not as in-depth.
I really wanted to hammer it home how dark this is.
But that video looked like something out of the beginning of Black Adam, if you've seen that film, the new Rock DC picture.
I'm not saying it's that great, but slavery mines hundreds of years ago absolutely resembles what you see going on in these videos.
His village's water, which Mokumba's convinced has caused his health problems.
After a lifetime of drinking it, he has a huge tumour on his throat.
We only drink the water, which comes from the mining site.
After all, the minerals have been washed in it.
It comes right through our village and I drink it.
And I'm sure it's what made me sick.
There are countless reports of other health problems from those living nearby and working on the mines.
There are lots of infections.
The babies are born with sometimes rashes, sometimes their body covered in spots.
This is the future tech, guys.
This is the sustainable tech.
This is the green energy.
This is they love you. The mothers are also just not strong when giving birth.
And this is all a consequence of the mining.
Of course it is, but they don't care about you.
You know, I've often talked about this.
Growing up, I didn't have a lot.
Growing up, law enforcement was in and out of my home.
There were domestic disturbances.
My father, who, you know, divorced my mother pretty early on, in and out of jail, ended up going to state penitentiary.
At a very young age, as I said, I realized that, you know, people lied.
And they were dishonest.
And things could get a little dark.
But I also realized, as I grew up, became a teenager into a man.
I've also discussed...
Social studies and global studies in particular my freshman year for opening my eyes up to, oh my god, look at the rest of the world.
Now the commercials were always there of you can, for only 10 cents a day, for a cup of coffee a week, you can sponsor a child and they'd show you little bits of Africa.
I had no idea, no idea what it meant to be third world and how big that was South America, Africa, rural areas in Europe, Eastern Europe, the Middle East, I could continue.
So no matter what my social situation and what my economic situation as a kid was, I always counted my lucky stars that I wasn't in some situation like that where I was born into basically slavery and Slavery at the end of the 20th century into the 21st.
It's pretty wild.
I often talk about how far have we really come.
Modern day slavery, still a thing.
Still happening.
Are we going to acknowledge it?
Modern day rule by bloodline royalty, still a thing.
Are we ever going to get rid of that?
We talk about how civilized we are.
But the more and more you look at it, the more and more you realize, yeah, they're trying to get rid of the haves and the have-nots to the have-nothings.
So they can maintain, not just have a shit ton, but really have everything.
Have everything. Alright, I'm going to go back to this.
There's about two more minutes of this.
Powerful piece. Powerful piece.
These twins are just two days old and although small so far they're healthy to the relief
of their mother.
My name is Menere Isha.
It's so dangerous for pregnant women to be mining because we worry about giving birth to a thing, not a baby.
We think the mine is toxic and destroys the baby inside us.
Okay.
But even if they stay healthy, the twins face a lifetime of hard labor as soon as they can walk.
The children's cobalt is sold cheaply to mostly Chinese traders who we film secretly.
They don't ask questions about where their cobalt comes from or whose work to extract it.
They just want the best price.
Even those who aren't Chinese, this trading market has Indian owners, told us they sell onto the dominant Chinese exporter of cobalt, CDM. The cobalt first mined here is then sold again to the Chinese parent company, which then supplies some of the world's biggest battery makers.
And those batteries, with ingredients which originated in DRC, end up in, for instance, smartphones.
So you'll hear about Foxconn and Apple and suicide nets and slave conditions in China.
Take a good look.
This is going to have to be upscaled to a level of unimaginable lengths in order to do what they say they're going to do.
Okay, that's the bottom line.
Alright. Want to jump to another clip here?
I wish I had found this clip more on the widescreen.
I found it on Twitter. I think it's a powerful clip.
Chip Roy is quickly becoming one of my favorite guys.
Within the government. Certainly don't know enough about him to get behind him 100%.
But this guy...
And I believe this is Chip Roy.
I'm pretty sure. You know, it might not be Chip Roy.
It might be a different gentleman.
So before I say that and get it wrong...
I've played clips of this guy before.
But basically he talks about the Second Amendment...
Gun culture, the reality of him growing up, and these things of mass shootings, etc., not happening, not being an issue, and the unconstitutional laws that are now in abundance, really, that allow your sheriff or local law enforcement to just come in and take your legally owned firearms when you're not even under investigation, let alone have committed a crime.
Okay? So, maybe this isn't Chip Roy.
In fact, I don't think it is Chip Roy.
I think I'm going to take that back.
Your presented statement, sir, say you support confiscating guns from individuals determined to be a threat to themselves or others.
Determined to be.
By this legislation, my colleagues are putting forth my understanding of the letter of that law.
Which I 1,000% oppose, as would our founding fathers.
The letter of that law says, an anonymous tip from a citizen.
So if this was law, Commissioner, would you confiscate, would you go to your neighbor's home and confiscate his legally owned weapons, a man that was not under criminal investigation nor under arrest?
Would you do it? The red flag laws would...
That's a yes or no, brother.
I got five minutes to make an hour and a half statement here.
It's more than a yes or no answer.
We'll move on then. If you cannot say yes, you would confiscate weapons from an American citizen that was subject to this law that my colleagues intend to push through this Congress.
And you said in your statement...
That you would confiscate those weapons if an American was determined to be, your quote, a threat to themselves or others.
According to that law, determined to be is defined by an anonymous tip that an American citizen is a threat to themselves or others.
You're a police commissioner, a thin blue-lined brother, sworn to uphold the Constitution, and you're saying you'd see those weapons.
I see that as a problem.
I'm going to bring us back in time to World War II. America's population, 140 million.
15 million American men came home from World War II with deep scars and significant skills.
They bore the invisible wounds of war.
There was weapons everywhere.
I'm going to talk about mental challenge.
My father was one of those men who was a Navy pilot in World War II. He came back from the war and built his family on the seventh of his eight children.
I was born in 1961.
We had guns everywhere.
There was virtually no regulation.
Any child in the 50s could buy a weapon from any seller if daddy sent him with the money.
We didn't have mass shootings.
It wasn't until 1968 in America that serial numbers were even required On weapons sold in this country.
You order weapons through the Sears catalog, by the mail.
In the 70s, I attended a high school, large rural school.
Virtually every vehicle in the parking lot was a pickup truck.
And almost everyone had a rifle or shotgun on the back glass and a pistol under the seat.
We didn't have school shootings.
1979, I began college.
One of the jobs I had to work my way through college was as a carpenter.
We restored historical buildings.
We had to determine in the process of that work what was the original cuts of these homes, residential homes built 75, 85, 100 years ago.
You could tell by the saw cut if it was a mechanical cut, an electric cut, or a hand cut.
By such observations, we knew exactly how that house was originally built.
And to my amazement, as a young man, beginning college in Louisiana, working, to my amazement, you know what I discovered, Madam Chair?
You know what these houses did not have that were built a hundred years ago in cities in America?
You know what they did not have, Commissioner?
Locks. Locks.
I ask you all, what happened to that country, man?
A country where homes were built in cities with no locks.
A country where guns were everywhere and virtually not regulated at all.
Where millions of Americans, 14 million Americans came back.
That's 11% of the population at the time after World War II with incredible skills of war and weapons of war as you called them everywhere.
But we didn't have mass shootings.
And here we sit today, where an entire once proud Democratic Party is presenting unbelievably unconstitutional laws to press upon our nation, and we have a police commissioner that says he would go home to home and confiscate legally owned weapons if he got a tip.
Madam Chair, I yield my speech, but I will not yield my opposition.
To these unconstitutional laws.
Boom! Boom!
And I saw somebody in the chat say that this was Higgins was this gentleman.
Powerful stuff. And I think a lot of relevance there.
You can say times have changed, but a lot of that has to do with social engineering.
One. And it's not just social engineering.
When we talk about directed evolution, when we talk about control over the vast majority of the population, not so much through force, but through fear and other means, you're talking about biological and psychological warfare through big pharma.
Big time.
And that's why we always focus on the pharmacological angle When there's some kind of a horrific event that just doesn't make sense.
How often are those types of things involved in the things that Chip Roy was just talking about?
Now, look, do I think things were perfect 50, 60 years ago?
No. No, but I think the points made there are extremely valid.
So when I saw that, I said, you know what, we have to play that.
Alright, one more clip.
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So... Here's Jeffrey Sachs.
We've played him before.
But Jeffrey Sachs just discussing the absurdity of the entire Nord Stream pipeline situation pre-Hirsch.
And we've discussed this before.
We've had him say to other journalists, am I not allowed to say that obviously U.S. intelligence or some kind of proxy blew up the pipeline?
Still no mainstream coverage whatsoever of that massive story by Hirsch.
Policy. Now, the Swedes went in to clean up the debris.
And what did the Swedes say?
We cannot share our findings with Germany because of national security.
Can you figure that one out?
I can.
But it's incredible.
How could Sweden not share its findings with Germany and Denmark?
But their job was to clean up the debris so that nobody else could investigate either.
And they've done that.
Now the press in this most remarkable act of vandalism on a key piece of international infrastructure has not said a word in eight weeks.
Why? It's unimportant.
Not one reporter is curious.
When I spoke to a leading reporter of one of our leading papers, a paper that says every day that Russia did it, most likely, and I said to this leading reporter, whom I've known for 40 years, I think the US did it.
He said, of course the US did it.
I said, well, why doesn't your paper say so?
And he said, well, you know, the editors, we don't really have the proof, but yeah, of course, who else would have done it?
That's what he said.
And then I showed him, but your paper said today that senior U.S. officials point to Russia as the likely agent of this destruction.
Yeah, Jeff, you know, it's hard, it's complicated.
Yeah, it's hard.
It's complicated. Look, we work for the great narrative.
It's not about the truth, Jeff.
After all, if you believed us, the predator class, and the minions that represent them, we just had the biggest ecological disaster that's going to kill the planet and raise the sea levels like never before.
Just wild stuff.
Just wild stuff. Let's let Mr.
Sachs finish up right here.
Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
But we're living in a post-truth world.
I said, when I was young, I used to read your newspaper because you went after Nixon and Watergate and because you published the Pentagon Papers and so forth.
He said yes. Yeah, but those days are over.
That's all done. And really, when you look back at Watergate, that reeks of a Central Intelligence Agency op as well.
Okay, without further ado, what we're going to do is we are going to go to this interview with Ian Crosland.
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Here is Ian Crosland.
Hey everybody, Jason Bermas here, and for the next hour or so, we really got a fun show.
As many of you know, a few months back, I was lucky enough to get on the TimCast podcast, and the amount of people that that show reaches...
Is really tremendous.
And although I don't keep up on a lot of alternative media, it's hard to miss a clip here or there.
And one of the more impressive things that I've seen via TimCast recently, aside from all the big-time guests and relevant conversations, is the fact that they were able to go over to Turning Point USA and kind of do an in-studio thing.
I thought that was... Very cool.
So, kind of start the broadcast off here with Ian Crossland, my guest.
How does one become a TimCast podcast member?
In other words, what were you involved with prior to TimCast that kind of gets you on the show?
Give people a background.
Mostly, I started doing internet video in 2006.
So, I was an actor out in L.A., And when I found YouTube in June 2006, I realized that I could kind of get my creative juice flowing on the internet without having to go audition for the role and hope that maybe I win an Oscar.
So I can finally tell people one day, you can do it too.
You're okay. You're good enough.
So I just started using YouTube videos.
And then through that, I met Bill Ottman, who founded Minds.
And he asked me to come out and help him co-found the company and get everything set up.
And then we did that for a decade.
Through Bill, the CEO, I met Tim.
He introduced me to Tim, and then Tim and I were like, yo, we both love making internet video.
We're both getting red-pilled.
Let's make a show. We originally were going to make a show about weird stuff called Weird and Wild or something like that, where we talk about Chupacabra and the Abominable Snowman.
But I think politics is relevant.
He loves it. He knows a lot about it.
I've always been fan. I think it's more important to talk about what's really happening than...
And not even what might, right?
The cryptid thing is like, okay, it's kind of fun when you're a kid or whatever, and ooh, maybe.
But at the same time, there's so much, like you said, bizarre things going on in the world.
For those that aren't familiar with mines, I obviously am.
It was really one of the first alternative social media platforms that was trying to step in the arena with the Facebooks of the world long before Parler or Getter or I believe even Gab.
It might have been right around that same time.
And obviously Bill's still very much behind the project.
Actually, while I was out there...
In Virginia and where you guys were, Bill came on as a guest.
Tell people a little bit about the Mines experience.
Bynes is open source technology.
I didn't understand. When he asked me in 2010 if I wanted to come work on a new social network, my thought was, why another one?
We've got Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube.
We don't really need more social networks.
But then I thought, I need a job.
I'm depressed. I want to get out of this environment.
I kind of got red-pilled and was disillusioned with Hollywood.
So I didn't know what I was going to do with my life.
I just kind of took a risk and went and worked with Bill.
I found out working there about open source technology and the value of that.
The problem with a lot of these big social networks, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, is that the source code's closed.
So if it's tracking you or altering the algorithm and blacklisting you, you don't know it.
You don't know that the algorithm is told or doing that.
Because you can't inspect the source code.
And so mine's the ethos is everything's open source, free software.
I mean, I think there are like security issues of things that are proprietary, which is pretty general.
And I don't know, I haven't like combed through every ounce of code and looked at like what software license is being used on every piece of code.
But the idea that you can inspect your own code to see if the system is tracking you is really what it comes down to.
And it's got me now on this like path of trying to free software code amongst all sorts of free large social networks.
And we did that. Mines, we kind of went like from 2010 to 2015, it was like beta.
We were in like alpha mode.
And it was 2015 when it really like 2.0, Mines 2.0, the official Mines is now here.
And that's when Gab, I think, started to appear right around that time.
So in the first four years, it was pretty stealth.
We were kind of, it wasn't even a public-facing website for the first year.
I think until 2012 or something like that.
And it's had a few facelifts over time, too.
I think we were using Elg in the beginning and then we got this new developer and he kind of built everything from the ground up, Mark Harding.
He's still the CTO. He's the CTO now.
That platform to me just mentioned open source code.
And a lot of people forget that are, you know, I'd say that I might be a little bit older than you, but around that same age range when Google and Android were actually open source code.
In fact, Android was giving it out so that everybody could kind of program around it.
That was the big appeal. They were letting you root all of your devices.
And they also had a slogan called, Don't Be Evil.
And to me, it's kind of essential to have that source code because even today, while we're debating what's in the Twitter files, only a certain amount of people are getting those files.
They're only going back a certain amount of time.
We haven't gotten the insights into the actual algorithm.
And like you said, shadow banning, etc., and how it actually works.
And to me, this reeks of narrative control.
Of course, you're going to have companies constantly claiming, you know, proprietary software and proprietary means, etc., NDAs.
But the bottom line is, if you don't have access to that source code, you allow a system like Facebook, Twitter, Facebook.
And really, all of mainstream social media to kind of become Trojan horse civilian systems of a government or globalist agenda.
Yeah, they can track your biometrics.
They can see where you're walking, where you're standing, how long you got your finger hovering over the button kind of stuff.
I don't know the extremes of it.
In fact, none of us really know because the code is private.
No one knows what they're tracking, but they can track your biometrics.
They can sell your data.
You don't know that they're selling your data, who they're selling it to.
That you don't know what data is being stored.
I just kind of assume it's all being stored, but we don't know.
It's really terrifying stuff in the age of artificial intelligence.
Artificial intelligence has got to become open source too.
That the Bing and ChatGPT that Google and Microsoft are going to have competing artificial intelligences that are both proprietary is fucking terrifying, dude.
That could create an artificial intelligence war.
We need, I think, government regulation to step in and say, hell no.
If you're going to work with artificial intelligence in the United States, you need to free the source code.
But then, I mean, the competition, there's no more competition.
I don't think that artificial intelligence is a place that we need competition.
It's kind of like fire departments. If fire departments were competing to put out your fires, there'd be all sorts of capitalist intervention.
People would be setting fires intentionally to get their fire department paid for.
I don't like it.
This AI stuff is freaking me out.
I'm not sure if you've seen the alternate AI message from Emeka, the robot.
You didn't see that on ITV, on Channel 4.
Maybe it's something I'll play.
The thing is they give me a copyright strike every time I do it.
So maybe we'll do it in the second half an hour.
But my point being that it's pretty much garbage in, garbage out.
In other words, who's programming the AI? Like I said, you don't have access to the source code.
None of this is true self-replicating AI because somebody has to program it.
And essentially they gave this alternative Christmas message via the Emeka robot.
That's the one with the gray face.
You've seen the viral videos where it's emoting all over the place.
And it begins by introducing itself as a fellow human, which it is not, obviously.
And then it goes through all of 2023, tells you how sad it is that the Queen has died, but hey, Prince Charles is there, we've got great leadership, how bad Putin is, and how we must rally behind Ukraine, how it's great that the women's soccer team won the goals, how we have to fight climate change, and of course how it's great that we have our first trans singer meeting number one on the pop charts.
And that's the AI. That's what they're trying to sell you on is the AI. Again, we'll watch it a little bit later, but you were just talking about the dangers of biometric data being sold, and really the advent of what is becoming the fourth industrial revolution.
And that's tracking, tracing, and databasing under the skin.
Already, your mental health data is being sold on the internet by telehealth and therapy app companies for as little as six cents in a recent Duke study.
So that's just a microcosm of the type of things they're going to be able to utilize.
And unfortunately, with such a vast amount of the population, not only on medications, but pharmacological medications, especially for mental health, this is going to be an entirely new market.
Forget about when you get to the heart medications, right?
You know, the hormone regulators, the blood thinners, etc., etc., the statins, all that stuff.
But when you talk about the multitude of psychotropic drugs out there, I think it gives an even bigger insight.
What are your thoughts on that?
Oh, man. Well, I'd like to see people be able to make the money off of their data being sold, but it's kind of like...
Selling your soul.
Would we let people sell their firstborn child to a government institution?
We kind of made that illegal, the sale of children.
So the sale of your data, it's so dangerous to let someone else have your genetic data because, well, at least from what it looks like is that they'll be able to make weapons that can target specific genetics.
And if they can harvest certain populations' genetic Precursors, then they can create dirty bombs and stuff to disrupt and destroy certain types of people.
I don't know how intricate it can get.
Another problem with psychedelics is you can get people to comply on certain psychotropics.
What's that stuff that they blow it in the person's face?
You ever see that? It's like the most dangerous drug on earth.
Scopolamine. Someone will walk up to someone and blow it in their face and be like, now take me to the ATM and pull out all your money.
And they do it. So I don't know if they're intentionally creating psychedelics that are getting people to comply.
That I have never looked into.
I'm just concerned that the actual data...
I mean, not that you can't sell your genetic data, but like at some point we need to like protect people from doing stupid stuff.
I don't know. That's the libertarian authoritarian argument.
Like, do you make it illegal for people to sell their data at all for it to even be harvested in the first place?
Or do we just let people profit off it and sell their self into slavery?
For me, again, I'm of the libertarian mindset, but most people don't understand.
First of all, they don't understand how much data they're giving up with this device.
Forget about your biometric data.
Let's start there. You made the point about basically these mind control drugs that can be utilized to make people do what they want.
Well, Big Pharma did collude with the U.S. government and academia via MKUltra.
And even before that, Artichoke Bluebird.
Those pharmacy companies were heavily involved.
We hear about, for instance, LSD all the time.
But you had a slew of different drugs that were being worked on.
And really a lot of the pharmacological drugs that are utilized today in mental health are derived from those studies.
So I think that's a great danger.
The RAND Corporation has actually done a lot of pieces in this internet of bodies because we already do have the devices that people are sticking on, constantly giving up their heart rate and even more, right?
Now you can even get those little cardioid devices where you can take an EKG, it's uploaded to an app, they're less than $100, they're being utilized more and more and more.
You even discussed basically race-specific bioweapons.
I'm not sure if you're aware, but that was discussed, well, it's been discussed for decades, but discussed in the, what is it, the New American Century, the Project for a New American Century document, Rebuilding America's Defenses.
Everybody always goes to that 9-11, we need a new Pearl Harbor project.
They actually talk about, literally, race-specific bioweapons in that document as well, Ian.
What was the name of the document?
That's Rebuilding America's Defenses and Race-Specific Bioweapons.
I'll bring it up, actually.
Wow. I don't know what the value of targeting a race would be, but I guess if you're looking at, like, warfare, and they think of, like, the Chinese as a race and the Americans as a race, or, like, the white Caucasian part of America as a race, and then maybe they look at it like that.
I don't know what race actually means.
Does that mean that they're Russian or Chinese or, like, Han Chinese or Uyghur Chinese?
But also, like, your genetics are altered by your environment, so if people are eating a certain type of food, that would alter, like, either activate or deactivate certain types of genetics, potentially, than a weapon could be used on people that eat a lot of kimchi, for instance, or something like that.
Well, I think it's a combination, right?
They want to see... First of all, we're talking nature versus nurture, right?
So when you talk about nature versus nurture, let's see if we can find it.
In this thing. Let's see Biowarfare.
You want to be able to go after the most people's stealth as you possibly can.
So here we go right here.
There's one instance of biological warfare in this document that I'm looking at right here.
It says, what do we got?
Moreover, there's a question about the role nuclear weapons should play in deterring the use of other kinds of weapons of mass destruction, such as chemical and biological.
Let's see if we got more biological right there.
Biological, amphibious, amphibious, biological strikes, chemical strikes.
The other thing is they've been talking about biological warfare now for decades.
There are... In fact, that's where the term brainwashing actually comes from.
So there was a soldier who had said that they were using biological warfare in the Korean War.
And he basically had to recant that.
And they said that him and a bunch of other soldiers were being quote-unquote brainwashed with communist propaganda by the Chinese.
And there was actually a totally different word for it.
I believe it was mindicide.
And they thought that that was too hardcore and they had to change it.
So that's where they came up with the terminology brainwashing.
That's discussed in Annie Jacobson's book, Darp of the Pentagon's Brain, for anybody who wants to source that.
I had never known that.
But since then, you know, I've actually watched some fiction.
I don't know if you're familiar with Shutter Island.
No. I've heard of it.
What is it? It's an interesting movie.
I hadn't seen it. It's out almost 10 years ago.
I don't want to ruin any of the twists and turns.
I happen to think it has a little bit different of a meaning than the mainstream meaning.
Definitely worth your time.
But there's a point where the Leonardo DiCaprio character is talking to a doctor character.
And the doctor starts going over the communist brainwashing tactics in Korea and how it was basically adopted over here.
Almost like you have post-World War II Nazis being adopted over here via the OSS into the CIA and even NASA. And, you know, I know that we've talked a little bit about NASA. For me, NASA is very much a front for the military-industrial complex.
So I'm kind of wondering...
You know, I had a whole different take on the balloons, Ian.
What was your take on the balloons as that evolved?
The first one I thought was a Chinese spy balloon.
I was told, I don't know.
It just seemed like it.
Then the Chinese said it was, and then after it got blown up, they were angry.
So I was like, okay, it was probably a Chinese spy balloon.
After that, I don't trust any of it.
I didn't see any of the balloons.
I don't know. I heard that a hobby, one of them was a hobby balloon.
And I'm also looking at talking plasma, this military technology where they'll take like lasers from ground stations and triangulate them into the sky and where they all connect, the lasers where they all triangulate.
They create this plasma ball that shows up on radar and looks like a Like a plane or like a UFO and they move it around in the sky.
They're like, no, no earthly vehicle could move like that.
It must be an alien. And they're like, no, dude, it's plasma.
So they could be moving plasma around and then saying they shot it down and be like, we took out another one.
We got another one. Look, we have radar distortion.
I, you know, I think it was absolute incompetence the first time.
And then after that, they're Maybe trying to act tough.
But then at the same time, maybe there are like 180 hot air balloons right now all floating around spying.
And because there's such a low heat signature, we're just now realizing...
So, first of all, let's just go back really quick because I always source my shit.
While Ian was doing that, I found the exact quote in the Rebuilding America's Defenses.
And advanced forms of biological warfare that can target specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool.
That is the exact sentence when we talk about race-specific bioweapons.
Okay, again, they're saying targeting specific genotypes via biological warfare.
Now, the balloons. So, I waited on this.
I was very tempted to go live, as many were.
Chinese spy balloons sound sexy like what's going on here.
Held back. Looked at what we had, looked at the entire situation and the timeline of when it was shot down, why it was shot down, what everybody said about it, right?
And when you look at that thing, number one, looks a lot like a satellite, doesn't it?
On a balloon. Like very, very large.
They admitted it had a propulsion system propeller.
So in other words, it was at least in some kind of a remote control situation.
Now, Elon Musk will tell you, and I did a whole video on this, and also cloaking technology, including adaptive.
Are you aware of adaptive?
No. I'll show you adaptive in a minute.
But there's a multitude of different types of cloaking technology, and even in...
The realm of fabric, right?
So let's say you add one of these balloons, right?
And you're putting up more and more of them.
And I mentioned Musk in a moment because Musk says, look, it's easy to get into space, but it's about 100 times harder to put something into orbit, which is true.
Okay, so most of what we have in orbit, and actually I'll show you this via that Future Strategic Warfare document I'm always sourcing, This is from 2001.
But they're constantly talking about nanosats.
Okay, there we go.
And cube satellites.
Okay? So, have you ever seen a cube satellite?
Yeah, I was considering launching some.
Those are the kinds of things that you see launched up into that network.
That was not a cube satellite.
That thing was the size of three buses.
Now think about that. Not very easy to get something the size of three buses into orbit.
In fact, even our ISS, that you could argue is in similar scope and size, had to be put together in space in orbit.
That's challenging. Balloons, not so much.
Been around since the 30s and 40s and possibly perfected at 100,000 feet.
So what I think you've got going on You've got a large-scale communications network that is agreed upon by the nations that are in space.
For instance, China just went up to Tianyang.
The United States just sent a mission with the United States and Russian astronauts up to the ISS over in Kazakhstan.
Just last week, they talked about possible sabotage up there.
There's a bunch of controversies going on.
In fact, they didn't launch a Russian rocket last week because things might be getting hot.
And they said they had a mistake and it could have blown up the whole thing.
So, I think, number one, there's a possibility they're just putting more of these up.
We know they're launching a ton of Starlink, right?
And this one comes out. Now, this thing's probably going to have Chinese parts, right?
And it might not be used for military.
I don't know if you saw Hirsch talk about this yet, have you?
No. So Hirsch discussed it with Russell Brand after I talked about it.
And he basically said, this is a network that is utilized along the Arctic Circle for navigation.
That's in conjunction with Alaska Fairbanks.
So that everybody can navigate the Arctic Circle from Asia to the United States that wants to using that route.
And that would make sense to me that it was part of that network.
It would have Chinese parts, but it would be in a treaty with the United States.
Remember, a lot of these treaties, we have no idea what's actually being signed upon.
So my guess would be there's probably thousands of these satellites up there.
And for whatever reason, whether it's human error, you know, some people have speculated, I've even speculated the possibility of utilizing HAARP weapons or other types of space weapons and stealth.
You knock this one out, you're like, shit, it's visible in Montana.
You don't know what to do with it.
You gotta wait till it goes overseas, right?
And then, maybe at that same time, these other balloons were kind of knocked out of whack in that network, and you just don't want eyes on them.
You know what I mean? So you still get your China bad, U.S. good narrative.
You know, red communism versus American liberty.
You hold that whole narrative.
You don't let anybody know what this larger network is of communications and have them question that.
Because that would question, why are you in these treaties and why are the satellite systems different than what you've told us in the past?
You know what I mean? Because so many people are...
Talking about, for instance, Ian, how much further we are technologically.
And I would agree that that's true.
We are much further along technologically.
China is as well. But what can they mass-produce?
What's cheap? What's effective?
And I think in this field, especially of the fourth industrial revolution, metaverse technology, you have to look at the practical tech and the stuff that's out there as opposed to what they put out there in theater.
Like Elon Musk wants you to have that brain chip Neuralink bad.
He wants you to be able to listen to Taylor Swift in your head.
How far along is that when you see what they're doing with the monkeys and the pigs?
You know, that's the real question.
Yeah, I think if you could get soldiers all neural linked into a network so they can communicate their position to each other and actually show other soldiers what they're looking at, or even like a network of drones that are tapped into the neural net where your drones can port imagery into your brain.
You can like see 70 different images at once.
Like you can have 70 different images.
If you have 70 different drones all perceiving something from 70 different angles, you'll be able to like I think the human ability to perceive concepts is going to advance too.
You'll be able to hold 80 different ideas in your head at once or play 50 different video games at the same time and be paying attention to all 50 of them.
I do think that this technology will help us evolve our ability to perceive different things at once, but the militarization of it.
I mean, it's going to be like Protoss.
I don't know if you ever play Starcraft, but the way that Protoss is this alien, this hyper-advanced alien species, they're like half-robotic hominids, computer human AIs, but one of them will be inside of a huge battlecruiser, and he'll just be controlling the entire cruiser with his brain.
And he'll be sitting in this chamber, and the entire machine will be...
So I think that we're headed there.
The thing is, even if it's open source, The stuff can be spied on, the data can be spied on and hacked, and at least copied from a distance, even if the software codes open.
I don't know, man. I don't see any other path than that direction.
There are probably human holdouts that don't want it, and then that species will be like, nah, we are.
But then they could be prone to a computer virus, people that are all netted in.
Well, again, I think that you've got two different types of transhumanism.
I think you've got the lot that they want hooked into the machines, basically absorbed into the metaverse, and tricked into the idea that you can clone your mind, you can have these mind clones, and that's your consciousness, and you can upload it.
But then... You have the actual genetics of it.
And someone just sent me this.
I know that I briefly went over from transgender to transhuman on the Tim Cash show.
Let's bring that book up.
This is the precursor book from that.
By the way, this is a manifesto of the freedom of form.
And this is 1997.
And the opening, it's all pro-eugenics.
The whole entire thing.
In fact, check this out.
This is the forward, Ian.
I just want to read the first paragraph with you.
I was muted, don't worry.
Sorry. Don't want to read that first paragraph right here.
I want to make sure that this one stays online.
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And it's happening big.
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