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Joe Hoft Wants Real Election Integrity

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Sharing Truth Online 00:11:38
Hey everybody, Jason Burmes here, and I am extremely excited for the next half hour or so because we have Joe Hoft, who is a driving force over at the Gateway Pundit.
And the Gateway Pundit has really been at the forefront of telling the truth about such important events as January 6th, the 2020 elections, the Hunter Biden laptop, and so much more.
And here to discuss all that and the second part in his book series here, The Steal, which of course you can't talk about in mainstream social media.
In fact, they've labeled the Gateway Pundit fake news.
Folks, more real news comes out of the Gateway Pundit in a day than you will see in national news media in a month.
So it is my pleasure to have with me today Joe Hoft.
Joe, how are you doing today, sir?
Hey, I am doing great, Jason.
Thanks for having me here.
Look forward to it.
So let's talk about the Gateway Pundit a bit because this is a news outlet that started in 2004 by your brother.
You got heavily involved, I'd say around 2017, became a driving force there.
What was it about the website and the political environment that drove you into that direction to start covering this stuff?
That's a great question, Jason.
Maybe I'll just give you a brief history of the Gateway Pundit for your listeners.
So Jim started it in around 2004.
He was just upset with what the media was reporting then.
And so he decided to start his own website.
It was back then.
There was very few websites.
Breitbart was one, a couple others.
And anyways, he started writing and people started giving him little kisses along the way.
He wasn't making any money.
He did this for about eight years before I really started making enough money to kind of step away from his day job.
So he had a day job this whole time.
And then, yeah, it got successful.
It grew.
And I just was, I had a different route.
So Jim's working on the Gateway Pundit.
It's growing over here.
My, I guess, history, my stream was in the corporate realm.
And I was working for a Fortune 500 company from about 2000 on and was in the auditing team.
I was getting sent around the world to view and audit various businesses around the world and entrusted by the board of directors to do so.
And they wanted to know what's going on around the world because they can't all do that from afar.
And then also I was in finance for a while.
I oversaw the financial reporting for multi-million dollar and billion dollar entities.
So that was my stream.
I've got 10 degrees and or designations that I've earned.
And so I was running the corporate path.
Jim was building the Gateway Pundit.
And then in about 2016, and we still talked every day, I moved over to Hong Kong in 2011 or so.
And I spent a decade over there working for the same corporation.
I was an executive in Hong Kong.
And my job was actually to set up an audit team throughout Asia Pacific for this Fortune 500 company.
So that's what I was doing there.
Same time, I'm following, you know, I'm talking to Jim all the time.
And we both fell in love with Trump.
And in 2016, we really backed him.
And that's when I started writing for Jim.
I actually, my first post was I saw that Ted Cruz was going to be eliminated in a month.
And I predicted it to the day.
And I told Jim this, and he said, Joe, you should write that up.
So I did, and I put it up at the Gateway Pundit.
And Drudge Report picked it up and put it up as one of their top stories.
And that got the fire going, you know.
And so then I helped and tried to do about a post today, but still I had my full-time job and position.
But still, I continued that up through 2020.
And then in 2020, I stepped away from the corporate role, came back to the States, and then happened to be here in the 2020 election.
So I appreciate you noting that I'd been writing at least from 2017.
Yeah, we had some blockbusters even back then.
And I really was attracted.
Some people were attracted to my writing.
I got some really great sources.
And we started destroying the Mueller sham.
And then we actually, I saw the Hunter Biden laptop before the election of 2020.
And I reported on that, some key points in that, some of the just salacious, disgusting stuff that Hunter was doing because we didn't have enough time to really dig into the financials.
So I did that.
And then the election came along and it was all election all the time since then.
But I really think my, you know, my stream, all those things that I did leading up to this, whether it be presenting in front of audit committees or corporations or meeting individuals and executives around the world, all that helped me.
And it set me up for success in reporting on this election.
So, yeah, so when we've got these fake fact checkers and the far left, you know, immature media saying things like, oh, the Gateway Pundits conspiracy or whatever, well, I'd put our record on the line compared to anybody's.
I'm not going to put anything up that I'm not convinced is absolutely accurate.
And that's what I've done.
And I think we've gotten a lot of street cred as a result.
So now it's one of the biggest websites in the country.
Jim, last year was our biggest year.
We had almost a billion hits.
Wow.
And so it's very impressive.
And it shows you that you can push past this corporate censorship.
You mentioned the Mueller report.
And a lot of people tend to forget that big tech really started to show its true colors en masse with the censorship of just the name Eric Chiarimella.
In fact, the first video that was actually wasn't taken down.
I didn't get a strike, but they made it private across the world.
So essentially I was the only one that was going to be able to view it was when Louis Gomer in one of the hearings dared to say that he wanted to hear a list of names come and actually give their testimony, amongst them, Eric Chiarimella.
And for that alone, I started to see, okay, well, they're going to start pulling stuff.
It was not very long after that.
I was fully demonetized.
And just this morning, yet another video was taken down.
Gateway Pundit isn't even allowed to have a presence on YouTube.
And I believe that your brother was banned from Twitter last year.
How much success have you found going around these mainstream social media platforms and getting on things like Truth Social or Getter, all these alternative platforms?
Do you still feel like you're being censored to the point where it's harder to reach those that aren't familiar with the Gateway Pundit?
Or through those, are you finding a new audience?
Yeah, another great question.
Well, I saw Jim in 2016, Jim was really instrumental in bringing Hillary down.
As a matter of fact, we saw a couple studies that were done that there were really hit pieces to say, you know, Gateway Pundit, excuse me, others are fake news.
But the data that they had showed that Gateway Pundit was fourth largest conservative website and was competing with the likes of ABC, Fox, CNBC, and NBC and all these others.
There's very few entities that were bigger in regards to Facebook shares and Twitter shares.
So what happened right after this 2016 election is they started censoring.
And I did a study for Jim about a year later, and we determined that about 5% of the volume of the top sites on social media prior to 2016 election, it was all that was left, 5%.
So some of these sites, their whole platform was on Facebook, and they were just gone.
So YoungCons and a couple of other sites, gone.
Never heard from them anymore.
They de-platformed them and they're done.
And then you saw Zuckerberg go in front of Congress and just sit there just with that non-emotional face of his and say, oh, no, we don't censor.
And that was really repulsive, to tell you the truth.
But same thing with Twitter.
Same thing.
Before the election of 2016, we could tell how powerful a post was by the number of shares.
And then they started censoring.
And then pretty soon that measurement wasn't there anymore.
But the remedy was continue to share the truth, continue to fight every day.
Share the truth, share the truth, share the truth.
And yeah, YouTube kicked Jim off.
If you go to Google Gateway Pundit, you'll get five pages of garbage before you might even get the website page.
This is today's fascist, communist regimes that are running our social media platforms.
But we just kept doing the truth.
And then that was the answer.
And then I guess probably we're given a gift in 2020 when nobody else would report on the election.
And we're just sitting back just pounding through this stuff.
No, this doesn't make sense.
This doesn't make sense.
This doesn't make sense.
And it goes on and on and on.
And so, anyways, Jason, that's what led me to my couple books here is it's really a bunch of posts that we put up at the Gateway Pundit primarily that support what I'm trying to say in these books.
So yeah, you just keep growing.
And then like last every year, Gateway Pundits had more numbers.
So you just keep getting quality, providing quality and timeliness.
And then, yeah, and I think that's the answer.
You just keep doing it every day.
It's something that's the American model.
Just do it every day and you'll succeed.
So, you know, young guys like you, you've got a world ahead of you.
I'm not that young, Jim.
I'm 43 years old.
I'm already feeling it.
You know, I've been in this game for 15 plus years now, making documentary films and kind of doing my thing.
And the censorship is really what alarms me the most.
You know, you mentioned, for instance, Google searches and down rankings.
You know, Google started off with its phrase, don't be evil.
Now, a lot of people didn't understand at the time that they were funded by NQTEL, the division of the CIA that, again, invests in technology, that they had cut deals not only with the NSA apparatus, but NASA in quantum computing and AI.
And I would argue to those that say, well, you know, they're a company and they're privately traded.
They are a technopoly.
They are a Trojan horse civilian system.
They have the number one search engine in the world, Google.
They have the number two search engine in the world, which is YouTube, which is also the number one video platform in the world.
They also have the number one operating system on the most devices in the world, which is Android.
How could you tell me that isn't cornering the market and having an unfair share in what is able to be shared amongst regular people?
It has now gotten to the point where there are not only downrankings, but it is almost impossible to find things that are archived even from mainstream media that are over a decade old.
How do you deal with that as a news organization that is trying to give some history or context to an event?
You know the story's out there, yet it's so hard to find.
You've often got to go to, I would say, what is it, archive.org and find, you know, the cached version of this because we are seeing a lot of really mainline historical records being scrubbed in real time.
Bernie's Sudden Victory? 00:13:37
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I did a post the other day and I was trying to find just some information from a couple years ago.
I was just like, you know, I could not find it on Google.
It just, you know, it just wasn't available.
And so I, you know, the thing that I've done a lot is, and this is kind of unique, but I'll go to the Gateway Pundit and do queries on the Gateway Pundit.
There's a search engine up in the right that you can click on and do searches.
And that has worked really well.
And so I was able to find some pieces on this topic, and I can't even remember what the topic was now, and be able to add some, you know, some history to this whole situation.
And so that's something that I've done a lot is I'll do a lot of searches on the Gateway Pundit itself just to find prior stories.
And quite often, we've used a lot of these stories have been written about before.
So let's get into election integrity, your book, the 2020 election, but let's do it with a little historical context because people like myself who have looked into voting machines beyond Dominion back in the day when Diebold was the big player, people that read Black Box Voting by Bev Harris, knew about these fractional returns, fractional voting through these systems, were already suspect of a system that had this as one of its modus operandi where you could vote.
But when mail-in ballots came in, many people threw their arms up.
And to me, a lot of people went to the James Baker, Jimmy Carter panel where they came out and they said, you know, we can't use these mail-in ballots.
It's rife for fraud.
But then they also said, you know, there's a couple of press conferences out there you can watch on C-SPAN that we don't have any audits of these machines either.
And Carter suggested even a 1-3% audit, making sure that these things weren't cheating, would be necessary, something we still do not have.
So speak to the history of how we went from a society of one person, one vote, you show your ID, you show up to your polling station into now the madness where almost every vote counts.
We're in ballot harvesting.
You can't question an election.
And even when a state Supreme Court like Pennsylvania rules all malin ballots from the 2020 election unconstitutional, there's this new magic word, appeal, where it seems to go away and they don't discuss it until they get their outcome, if they get their outcome.
You know, what are your feelings on this?
Well, that's great.
Yeah, and I didn't, to be honest with you, I didn't know a lot about our elections really until 2020.
Yeah, we all knew that these absentee ballots were going to be a recipe for disaster, but did not know all that was going on behind the scenes, how you had Mark Elias going to all these states and cutting deals with all these corrupt politicians in my mind.
And all these other groups that were created, these nonprofits and secretaries of states organizations and things like that.
We even uncovered that there was individuals that went before the UN and then invited the UN to come and observe our elections in both, I think, 18 and 20 for sure.
I think maybe even 2016.
So I wrote about this in the book.
This stuff's just kind of shocking.
So there's the last chapter in my second book here is really on collusion.
There was so much going on that seems to be, there seemed to be some sort of collusion because all of this happened at the same time and in unison.
Speaking about big tech, in my first book, I mentioned I have a chapter on big tech and all the things that were going on before the election.
And they came out like a month and a half, all three of the big three, I'd say Twitter, Facebook, and Google, and say, well, you're not going to have a winner on election night.
We already know that you're not going to have a winner.
So you're going to have to be, you know, sit tight.
We'll get you a winner soon.
And how in the, you know, this has never happened before, right?
Let alone that somebody could predict that from days and months even ahead of time.
So a lot of crazy stuff leading up to this election.
And I'm just really was just kind of introduced to all this stuff about the machines and really about the drop boxes with all this.
I knew I had some warnings on drop boxes from talking to someone I know in California who said, you know, as soon as they went to these drop boxes, the elections were over in California.
I mean, that was it.
Like Orange County, which is all red, all of a sudden in 2018, all of a sudden, five, the five congressional seats all turned blue with the drop boxes.
So, you know, it's like, you know, and then we've seen it again with the recall election with the governor out there, Newsom.
Same thing, just garbage.
You know, I had a lady on my, I had a radio show and Pamela Geller, a really, you know, good friend.
And she said, well, you know, the foundation of our country really is free speech.
And, but she said, but without free and fair elections, it's all just gibberish.
And I thought, that is so true.
You know, these elections are so important.
And we had no idea how bad they really were.
We just really had no idea.
I think in 20, and so it's naive to think that stuff didn't happen in the past.
Like you, like you, you well know if you're mentioning some of these players, you know, they were mentioning this stuff a long time ago.
And so I think Trump really blew him away in 2016.
I think Hillary thought she had it made.
And then all of a sudden, Trump's numbers were just so much bigger than they ever imagined.
And then the same thing happened in 2020, quite frankly.
Well, well, let me talk about that for a second because I'm one of those believers that Trump ran away in a landslide in 2016, but they had already played their tricks with their fractional reserve voting and thought they had pinned the numbers that they needed.
But at the same time, you had exit polls in 2016.
There was no real exit polls from 2020 that you could measure.
So you at least had that evidence.
And then when they started even recounting ballots because of Jill Stein, who I believe was the Green Party nomination, all of a sudden in one of the states you saw Trump gaining votes and they put the kibosh on that quick.
We can't have him gaining votes.
Then you get to 2020.
You talk about this media preparation to let you know that you're not going to have a winner on that night.
Specifically, I remember the Axios piece where they were talking about these digital sliders of information where they said when they got to this certain point, it was going to be a red mirage.
And then somehow Joe Biden would win.
And then Joe Biden did win.
A man who could barely speak, who you couldn't even get a Democratic hopeful to endorse.
Every time you say Joe Biden, they'd be like, Yeah, well, I guess, you know, I have TDS, so it's the best we got.
A man, again, who was, I always used to refer to him as Joey B. You know, he was the lovable gangster guy, came up through the ranks, finally made it to the vice president.
But really, towards the tail end of the vice presidency, into the 2020 elections, you could tell he had faded as a man.
You could tell that dementia was on the horizon.
Anybody that was watching those debates and being honest with themselves, when the man goes, go to 4440 Joe, doesn't even know his website.
It's over.
He's talking about record players.
It's over.
And somehow, you talk about collusion.
They were able in concert to get rid of any of his adversaries.
I'd say Bernie Sanders would probably be the only legitimate one.
You had Bootlicker Buddha Jej basically bow out just at the right time.
You had Grandma Oatmeal over there.
She bowed out right at the right time.
It was obvious.
Who's Grandma Oatmeal?
Is that Clovischer?
No, God knows what.
What's her name?
Liawatha.
Yes, that would be the one.
Yes, I call her Grandma Oatmeal.
I mean, you look at that woman, that's all I think is a Quaker Oatsbox.
There couldn't be Lia Lotta.
Lie a whole bunch of.
And I was like shocked.
And then they chose somebody that couldn't even get a 2% favor with her Democratic Party, Kamala Harris, to be his partner in crime.
Do you think that they did this to really put it over the top and degrade the American people?
And now the new narrative is civil war, civil war, civil war.
Do you think they did this in order to, number one, push that narrative, but try to push people into a violent manner so they can quelch on free speech even more?
For instance, we know that Homeland Security has changed their direction to domestic terrorism and Trump supporters and quote-unquote white supremacy.
It's the big deal now.
Whereas, you know, that was presented to us as an agency that was going to keep us safe from al-Qaeda and the Middle East and then ISIS.
And in short order, I would say in the last two to three years, they've been rather open about what the direction of that agency really is.
Now, that's, man, you really got me thinking on all that, what you shared.
Yeah, the one thing in my, in my, well, maybe I'll make a couple of comments.
And at the end of my first book on this deal, the one thing I did was I kept track of all the rallies, Trump rallies and Biden rallies, and how many people attended.
And so we had Trump with 1.1 million people, and we had Biden with less than 2,000.
So think about that, 2,000 to 1.1 million.
This was going to be a wipeout, you know, based on those numbers.
Wipeout.
And then in the second book, as I start off, I went back and kind of revisited the Democrat primaries.
And it was a joke.
If you remember, the Iowa caucuses took a month before they could decide who won.
They gave it to Butige by just fractional points over Bernie.
They did not want to give it to Bernie.
And I think you could tell they were pushing Buttigieg.
And then in New Hampshire, I think Budijed may have done well, or Bernie might have taken that.
And then Bernie won a couple elections, a couple states, and Biden was nowhere in the picture.
And then suddenly South Carolina comes up and Biden, who's got 30% of the black vote in a poll going in, and decreasing as more and more Democrats are starting to jump on the Bernie bandwagon.
Somehow Biden wins South Carolina, and then really the rest was history.
And you're like, how does this happen?
I remember Biden got up there and he confused his wife and his sister on stage.
I mean, it's just so in your face what they've done here.
And it's just horrible.
And so, yeah, I just think, yeah, it's like with the Democrats.
I don't know if they've had an election, a real free and fair election in years because with Bernie and Hillary, that was all set up.
We know that from us from records from the time.
And this election, too, it seems like they picked Biden, but then they gave the billionaire a chance, if you remember that.
Bloomberg steps in and he just failed.
And really, I put in my book, too, one of my favorite tweets from Trump was, well, he just blew like a billion dollars.
If he would have listened to me, I could have told him he didn't have what it takes, saved him a billion dollars.
And, you know, so that's what was going on.
The Democrats were a joke.
And there was clearly nobody that we thought could stand up even on stage with Trump.
But the media use their fake polls and the media uses continuous, you know, bogus brainwashing, the fake news that they keep saying, using these polls, criticizing Trump, you know, attacking Trump, going after Trump for still Russia collusion and all this stuff, the fake impeachment, everything.
It was just atrocious.
And it's amazing with all those headwinds.
Trump's numbers were growing.
And then he ends up with 75 million votes, the most in history.
Biden or Obama had the record back in 2008 was 69 million.
And Trump crushes his prior, prior 2016 totals.
And just the numbers themselves were amazing.
And then we're going to, we're trying to, then they're going to tell us the guy that couldn't get 2,000 people at his rallies got 81 million votes.
I mean, it's laughable.
It's sad and it's disgusting, but it's just, it's a joke.
It's a tragic comedy.
I would have to agree with you.
And I'd go back to the 2004 elections with the Democrats and when Howard Dean was clearly the frontrunner and actually had people out for him at all these rallies.
All of a sudden, I believe he doesn't get Iowa and they put him on television.
He says, we're going here.
Yeah!
And they make him unhinged.
And all of a sudden, John Kerry, third cousin on one side, ninth cousin on the other to Bush, Skull and Bones classmate at Yale, comes in.
He didn't have 20 people at his rallies.
You go back and you look at how many people were going to vote for John Kerry.
And then it comes to election time and Bush is such an unpopular president.
It appears that Kerry might have actually won some states, including Georgia, and there was fraud.
And he refused to even look at it.
And now I would argue John Kerry runs a lot more of our foreign policy in our country than Zombie Jay could ever dream of right now because who knows what he's dreaming about because he's not there at all.
But Kerry.
Yeah, that's while he's talking.
FBI's Insidious Attack 00:03:28
Exactly.
God knows what he's thinking about and where he thinks he is all the time.
I mean, they're rolling him out, what, once every week and a half, two weeks in five to ten minutes.
You can see that.
You know, and now Jill, Jill again has COVID and you're like, what's going on?
That's, you know, it's just they're just trying to keep him hidden just like they did before the 2020 election.
Keep them hidden and then try to fool the people again.
And unfortunately, a good, I think Trump had the biggest base in U.S. history.
It's pretty clear he did.
And therefore, he had, and that's why nobody's buying any of this.
And that was the miraculous thing about Trump.
He had a huge base and nobody switched at all.
The more he got attacked, the more people jumped on his train.
People are like, yeah, this guy's getting, and this Mar-a-Lago thing a couple weeks ago, that's just helped Trump too.
We were seeing it, I guess, in the polls that I don't put a lot of weight in, but that was, that was atrocious.
By the way, I went down there, Jason.
It wasn't far from here.
I went down.
I remember walking up and I was live streaming for a while and I don't regularly do that.
But I walked up and I saw this big SUV in the president's driveway and to Mar-a-Lago, the entrance to Mar-a-Lago, and two people on each side with machine guns.
And I was just like, what's happening to my country?
What has happened here?
Where are you going to find people that could even go work for the FBI and do what they just did?
I mean, it was so atrocious.
And, you know, I thought that, well, America's changed.
Today, America's changed.
And I do believe that.
And going back to your comments, too, about, you know, Barack Obama treated us Americans, God-loving, family-loving, Christian, you know, loving, good people as the enemy.
And he turned the Patriot Act on all of us.
And now they're trying their scheme is to create us into the monsters.
And they do it.
And I just heard this.
There was this video this weekend at this Lindell event that Jim and I went to.
And we saw, it was a great video, but it's this one girl.
The FBI comes to our house.
She's got a young teenage daughter.
She's a pretty girl.
And apparently the daughter had been abused and sexually abused for a number of years.
And the FBI put her out on the front porch in her underwear.
And, you know, again, how could you do that to any girl who's a teenager, let alone this girl?
And this is the kind of things that I think our FBI now is doing to try to get us angry.
I think there was a lot of that happening on January 6th.
There was things that were just outrageous, what these people were doing.
And to get us angry, and rightfully so.
We should be angry.
And so, anyways, yeah, there's an attack on America right now from within.
It's coming from the Biden-Obama regime.
And to me, it does seem like Biden, Soros, China, probably running the World Economic Forum.
They're running this show right now.
I mean, everything that Biden does is anti-American, even paying off these loans yesterday.
Well, what about the hardworking American that paid off their loans themselves?
What about the parents that save money to help their kids go to school?
What about that?
Why are we doing this?
And, you know, and I don't even know if Biden, I guess they're claiming that there's some sort of some slip in the rules that they can do this.
Red Wave Threatening America 00:03:44
I mean, that's how the Dems always are.
They always find this stuff that's just so outrageous and push, shove the stuff down our throats.
And it's just not, you know, the hardworking American is always the victim.
They're always, we're always being taken advantage of.
So pretty sick stuff that's going on now.
And I quite, and quite frankly, Jason, I think the climax or the event that did it all was the 2020 election.
I mean, Afghanistan was bad, but that never would have happened without this election.
And to think that there'd be enough people in this country that would work together to steal an election is just, you know, it's horrendous.
And then brag about it in Time magazine saying that they fortified the election and they did everything up to the point of illegalities.
I mean, you read that piece.
It takes you about an hour, hour and a half, because it's actually a really extensive piece.
But the way they brag about it after the fact is almost insurmountable.
And, you know, you talked about that, that gut feeling of sickness that my country has changed.
And for me, you know, I was covering January 6th in D.C.
I was up on the second level.
I didn't go inside, thank God.
But after that event, the next time I was in D.C. and I witnessed the Capitol and the White House being locked down in a fashion I'd never seen fencing up, I really felt, well, this is it.
We're in a second, third world country.
They're not going to be shy about it.
This guy is an outward puppet.
What comes next?
And really, every part of this globalist, quote-unquote, great reset, repackage, new world order agenda has been pushed forward.
So I want to quickly talk about the primaries and whether or not you think that this latest move against Trump is just to, in my opinion, it's not even just a fishing expedition.
It's to try to get him into a court case, a criminal, for the first time in history, a criminal justice case, where even if he's not found guilty, he can't run.
So if you've got him in court in 2023, they'll try to pass something or an executive order where he's ineligible because he's up on criminal charges and he could face five years, 10 years, 20 years, whatever they throw at him.
And at the same time, obviously, there are a lot of people that have flipped positions, especially those on the fence in purple states.
And the Republicans should see the red wave they are talking about, but we haven't cleaned up any of the infrastructure with our voting systems, with the ballot harvesting, with these machines.
And I know that Lindell has been speaking about this more and more, that this needs to be cleaned up before the midterms.
I was actually invited to that same thing this past weekend, but I was in Batavia, New York over a three-Awaken America tour the week before and just a lot of traveling.
You know, what are your opinions on that?
Do you think that ultimately it's not really to put Trump in jail, but just ensure that he's not able to run in the 2024 elections?
And will we truly see a red wave with the infrastructure that's in place?
Well, that's again, a couple of great questions, Jason.
Yeah, I think we all can see that they're after Trump.
They hate Trump.
And the unfortunate thing is we've got no counterbalance.
So the Republican Party, they hate Trump too.
The people running that party, they're monsters, just as much as the lefties.
Some people would argue even more.
And we see that across the board in multiple states.
And so they're not going to stand up for this guy.
It's the American people that are standing up.
And I got to tell you, I don't think it's going to work.
I'm telling you, there is a huge base for Trump and it's growing every day.
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And you cannot bastardize our government and do this.
So I expect some sort of God's intervention to prevent that from ever happening.
I really do.
I don't think it's going to happen.
And maybe it's a pipe dream, but no, I just think there's too many people that are going to be just not, it ain't going to work.
It ain't going to work.
Just like when I heard Trump's house was, you know, raided, I jumped in my car and I drove down there.
It's like, you know, and I tell you what, you know, God knows what we'll do if Trump, if we ever see Trump in handcuffs.
I mean, that could be the, that could be the end.
That could be the end of this, this nasty regime because Americans ain't going to put up with it.
They're just not.
I'm sorry.
And I'm sorry to, you know, to say all that.
The second part of your question is about, you know, just the election and stuff.
So yeah, I, so I, I, maybe I'll summarize real quickly what my second book's about.
If we got a couple of minutes here, sure, absolutely.
So the first thing I talk about is the fact that we had access denied.
And what I meant by that, and this comes from Scott Adams, his tweet right after the election, where he says, hey, nothing else matters.
Stop fooling yourselves.
Nothing matters.
When they stopped allowing us to come in and review what was going on in Detroit and Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Las Vegas, and across the country, when we were prevented from seeing what was going on, it was over.
And being a corporate auditor for years, he's absolutely right.
And Jason, I've never approached an audit, been involved in an audit where I walked in and people said, oh, no, you can't come in here.
Never, never has that happened to me in hundreds of audits around the world.
And so he was right.
It was over then.
We needed to stop.
And here's what you do as an auditor.
You just stop.
Okay, say, fine.
This election is over.
Anything in there, we cannot count on.
And so we're either going to have to, the only remedy is probably to do a redo, but we can't count those ballots because they're now tainted.
And that's what we would do with financials in a major corporation.
If you have a department where the data is suspect, where it's not been contained and secured, and there's no confidence in that data, you're not going to include that in your financials as is.
You are going to make sure you're going to either discount it or perform a conservative approach with it, or there's some major heads that are going to roll.
Kind of stuff doesn't happen in the corporate world, and um, so, anyways, that that's the first point that I bring up in the book.
And then I start talking about the overall numbers, which you do as an auditor, look at stuff, and there's all these numbers were crazy, right?
You know, just crazy: 81 million, 2,000 people at your rallies doesn't make sense.
All this stuff didn't make sense.
Where do you focus as an auditor?
You focus on the whole thing because it's so broken.
And then we started looking at the data, and the data didn't make sense.
And the reason it didn't make sense is because we, you know, you heard about those glitches.
You and I saw on TV, things numbers would change.
We're like, what's going on?
About six days into the election, after the after the election into the audit, I'd say, we got a hold of the data, the Edison data, and we started looking at it.
There's patterns in this data that, and that doesn't make sense.
Everything should be random and it should be increasing.
It should never go down.
We saw periods we saw in Virginia twice where numbers were decreased by 300,000 and three times where numbers for Joe Biden were increased by 300,000 ballots.
How does that make sense?
So the patterns in the data were a big question mark by some very sophisticated individuals, by the way, that identified this.
I throw myself in that bucket along with some guy who was working with me on this data.
Like, this doesn't make sense.
We called it the drop and roll.
They drop all these major ballots at 90% across like four or five of the key swing states.
From that point on, every single batch of ballots comes in, the same proportion, Biden to Trump, all the way to the end, the last 10%.
Doesn't make sense.
And then the next thing that we looked at was the absentee ballots.
We don't know for millions of ballots where they came from.
Millions.
And I list all that.
And then, and that's the chain of custody documentation that's just not there.
It's absent.
It's gone.
So we don't know where they came from.
Millions of ballots.
Again, as an auditor, okay, I cannot count these because I don't know where they came from.
So we'll put these over here in a pile and that's what we'll how we'll deal with.
On the same hand, we didn't know who signed them, you know, or who they who, you know, who's behind them because they turned off signature verification almost universally across the board in multiple states.
So we don't know where they came from, who they came from.
And then we talk about a couple chapters on the machines and then a chapter on collusion with all these nonprofits and all this stuff going on.
And at the end of each chapter, Jason, I say this: I say, and because of this, this election never should have been certified.
That's my professional opinion.
I base that on years of experience, you know, decades and around the world.
It never should have been certified.
You can call it stolen or not.
If you don't like the word steal, whatever, this election shouldn't have been certified.
And that's why I wrote this is because I'm an auditor and this is what we would do.
And, you know, so this is what the word that I wanted to get out.
Never should this thing have been certified.
We should have restarted in a number of states, quite frankly.
That was the only remedy to fix the situation.
And instead, these animals kept pushing, pushing, pushing that we certify this stuff by a certain date and that it has to be done by this date.
And even if it's wrong, and that was absolutely the wrong answer.
And every American there on January 6th, including yourself, had every reason to be there and to protest because our election had been stolen.
We never should have been forced to certify that stuff.
And I argue we still should decertify these just for the sake of history.
This stuff never, and we've got enough evidence in multiple swing states.
This stuff never should have been certified ever at the very least, never certified.
Well, the certification process was in complete contradiction to what we saw in the 2000 election with Gore and Bush and hanging Chads and whether or not you like the outcome of that.
You know, they did push back the certification.
We were allowed to challenge an election then.
You fast forward 20 years, and that is no longer allowed.
And really, it's that chilling way they have taken away free speech.
They have tried to marginalize sites like yours, voices like yours, and amplify their quote-unquote authoritative sources, which are nothing more than extensions of the media-military-industrial complex.
The books are the steal, volume one and volume two.
You can find those over at Amazon.
Where else can people find them so you can get the full support and tell people what you got coming up via the Gateway Pundit?
Because again, you guys are always ahead of the curve.
Well, thanks, Jason.
Yeah, Barnes and Noble, you can obtain those books there as well.
And yeah, and look it up by Joe Hoft because there is another book out there, The Steal, that the part of the, I think the deep state created right after the election.
It was probably written before the election was over, saying how Trump was trying to steal the election.
Well, that's certainly not true.
Well, I mean, Greg Pallast, who'd been a champion of election integrity for a very long time, somebody that I followed, I actually got to be a part of a podcast with him prior to the elections.
And he had already written a book how Trump stole the 2020 elections.
And it borderlined on the absurd.
You know, I asked him all these questions about the fact that we had the mail-in ballots, that we weren't going to have exit polling, and his answers just blew me away.
This is somebody who I thought had journalistic integrity, had done some really great work through the Bush administration in the BBC, and he just flipped on his head and wrote an Imagination Land book that somehow Trump was going to steal it.
When, again, every visual aspect of this, from the people that were showing up to the rallies to the MAGA hats that you couldn't get away from, to the fact I traveled the country before the election, from New York to the Midwest, everywhere I drove, there were signs for Trump, bumper stickers for Trump, people supporting Trump.
Biden, not so much, if at all.
It's still that way.
I see Trump stuff all over, no matter Missouri or Florida, wherever it might be, all over.
And yeah, no, it's a joke.
This thing, this thing, America had an election stolen.
And it's real sad that so many key politicians sat back and allowed this to happen.
I couldn't agree more.
Joe, it has been a pleasure.
I hope to have you on in the near future where we can discuss a number of issues, especially as the midterms approach.
And then maybe after the midterms, after we get the results there and we get to visually see how far we've come from actual free and fair elections.
So thank you again, sir.
Anything you want to leave my audience with?
No, thanks so much.
Just encourage people to go out and purchase my book.
It's only 10 bucks and each book.
And it'll give you information on how the election was stolen.
And it's coming from a professional.
And so you can share this with your friends that maybe don't believe it.
There's more than enough evidence there that this thing never should have been certified.
And I stand by that.
So please go out and grab yourself a copy.
All right.
Thank you so much, Joe.
We really appreciate it.
Thank you.
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