Patrick Byrne Explains How To Take Back Our Elections
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Hey everybody, Jason Burmes here and I am sitting with Patrick Byrne who probably needs no introduction to many of my audience.
You're speaking at the Reawaken America Tour here with Clay Clark.
Give us a little bit of a fill of what your presentation is on.
Well, we'll be speaking, I'll be speaking tomorrow morning with Joe Flynn about the activities of the America Project, what it did last year, what it's doing this year, what it's focusing on, which really is Operation, we call it Eagle's Wings.
And that is what we did in Virginia.
We worked for six months in Virginia last year helping Bishop Leon Benjamin clean up voter rolls, helping him bring election integrity.
We think they probably improved election integrity, probably got rid of about 30% of the mischief.
And in November of last year, do you remember what happened in Virginia?
The legislature flipped by surprise, even the governorship flipped by surprise, just because they got about 30% of the fraud cleaned up.
So we're now taking the system that was used in Virginia and we're supersizing it across eight key states around the country, bringing election integrity, cleaning up voter rolls, teaching people how to work in the polls, precincts and such.
It's just about restoring election integrity.
That's all we care about.
So this is an issue that I've been talking about since really the 2004 election when you started to get widespread voting machines, most notably at the time, Diebolt.
And here we are almost 20 years later.
Obviously, Dominion is the word of the day.
It needn't be.
It needn't be.
It's kind of funny.
They get, although I know I'm in a lawsuit with them.
I thought I'd been tried, in general, tried to be.
The issue is this is a class of, well, the real issue is if it can be plugged in, if something has a power cord, it can be hacked.
Anyone who tells you something different doesn't know what they're talking about.
I'm a guy who built a $2 billion e-commerce company.
A thousand times a day, people tried to hack Overshock.com.
I spent, I was a fanatic.
The one thing that people would remember me for is saying there is no, like, one loss there could take down the whole country.
So we were an old company, so we were always fanatic about it.
I got into, started learning about this in the weeks before election 2020, kind of as on an offhand basis, learning about election integrity machinery, not just Dominion, but other companies involved.
And reading the owners' manuals, the operating manuals, the sales literature.
And it seemed almost designed.
It's terribly poor security.
I can promise terribly poor poor security.
As one hacker put it to me, one cybersecurity professional, I said on a scale of one to 10, how would you rate this?
And he said to maybe a one.
And that was about right.
It's so bad.
Some of the design features, it almost, if I were a cynical person, I would say it was designed to be able to be beaten.
Weird.
It's so weird that they might design it that way.
I mean, one of my big things is, you know, I've been around since Greg Palace, Bev Harris, black box voting, fractional voting.
The idea that it isn't one person, one vote.
And I mean, I mean, we'll get into it.
You know, obviously, you have that element to it.
And then you had all these authoritarian mandates that changed the voting laws.
And not really changed the voting laws, but allowed for mail-in ballots that have now been discredited in the manner of, for instance, Pennsylvania.
You have a constitutional judge that has had the state Supreme Court said all of those mail-in ballots were unconstitutional.
But there's this new magic word, appeal, and there really is no way to rectify the situation after the fact, correct?
Correct.
Although, just to give an example of what scoff laws these people are, in Pennsylvania, Alito, somebody challenged something that was going on.
And Alito, rather weakly, this was just before the election of 2020, said, Okay, well, you can go ahead and do it, but then just keep those that other form of ballot.
I won't go into the detail, but it doesn't match the rules specifically.
Segregate them, and then we'll look after the election.
And if there's an outcome-determinative number there, then we'll worry about the issue there.
Well, Pennsylvania just gave the Supreme Court the finger, they gave Judge Alito a finger, and they didn't segregate them, which made it impossible to unscramble the egg.
There's no way to unscramble the egg.
There was so much malfeasance, so much cheating, so much bad chain of title.
But normally, if there were just a little bit of that, you could go in and say, Well, we see that this sack of ballots wasn't right, and then well, you can't do that in this case.
There's no way to unscramble the egg.
So, we have no way of really knowing what happened on November 3rd, 2020.
So, let's talk about some of the solutions.
Now, obviously, you need real polling, you need to get involved early.
We would like one person, one vote.
But why aren't we moving to technology empowering human beings and the voting system and accountability, and instead keeping away from them and enslaving us through these results that can no longer be even audited or even challenged in the court of public opinion, let alone the real court system?
Isn't it funny how, for the first time in our lifetime, it's some kind of crime against nature to want to audit the election?
Some states have it in the Constitution, citizens can audit everything about the election, and yet that makes you seditious today if you want to do it.
Seditious, indeed, crazy, it's odd.
In Michigan, it's in the Constitution, citizens can look in anything they want in the election, and yet anyone who tries it now is being, you know, who's been trying it for a year and a half is destroyed.
What we can do, I hate to say it, but what everyone's gonna have to hold their nose and swallow something.
I'm afraid to say that what we can aim for was November 22 gets cleaned up and is fixed.
And the institutions take over, and then they dig us forward.
And then, if Trump wants to run in 2024, he runs, and if he wins, they got to accept it.
But the quid pro quo that may come out of this is we let November 2020 be bygones in return for everything about this coming November gets cleaned up.
And I happen to know that there are, as distasteful as that sounds to a bunch of Trump people out there, I know, I happen to know that the attorneys general who are considering there's been this case floating around the Vaymate file where it would challenge the election of November 2020.
They have said we're gonna, they're considering it, but the remedies section of the case has been changed.
So, it's not asking as a remedy Donald Trump is reinstated, it's asking as a remedy that everything about the coming election gets tight.
And if it does, my understanding is there was at least a point where 45-I don't speak for President Trump, of course, but I know people who know people and such, and that the point had come a couple months ago where he was ready to hold his nose and take a deal that said, We'll let he wants to be vindicated about what happened, and he wants them to fix November 2022, and we'll let bygones be bygones about what happened in the past.
That and that at least the attorneys general were very close to taking a deal like that, and he was very close to being willing to do it.
But it's all still so, however, new information is coming out.
The 2000 Yules came out.
There's another case being filed probably this week by us.
When is this going to play?
Where are we going?
Hopefully, no, we would be live, but there's no internet here, so I got to go back to the hotel after this.
I got about seven other interviews other than you so far, and then we got to upload them.
So hopefully by tomorrow they're going to be up.
There's a case that's going to be being filed that is quite explosive and it has the whole story.
And once that gets filed, it'll all be in the courts again.
And then it'll be up to the courts to decide.
But we have the whole story.
We know how it was done.
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We know how it was printed, who did the signing, who signed the ballots, how it was shipped, how it was stuffed.
That's Dinesh.
Dinesh's movie is how it was stuffed.
And then the question is who paid for it all.
So we happen to actually have all that already put together.
And you're going to be seeing it in a lawsuit very soon.
Interesting.
Of course, we're going to be keeping up on that.
Talking about technology being used to empower elections, I would say.
Good.
There's a way to do it.
It's using blockchain.
Any solution that is not blockchain-based, I don't trust.
But blockchain can be used because the bad guys have shown that they can cheat all kinds of things.
But even bad guys can't cheat the laws of mathematics.
Laws of mathematics and the laws of mathematics.
Blockchain is based in cryptography.
It can't be cheated.
There is a company called Votes, V-O-A-T-Z.
Now, full disclosure, I was the angel money that started it.
I only did it because I knew the world needed it.
I have no economic interest whatsoever.
I walked away from it five years ago.
So I have no interest, but I started a blockchain voting company seven or eight years ago.
That you would vote through your phone.
You would get a piece of paper.
Everything is mathematically provable that this was your vote, that the votes got.
It could be done.
However, I don't think the world's ready to take a step forward.
I think it needs to take a step back and go to just straight paper, old-fashioned for now.
Thanks.
For now.
There's no technology solution other than blockchain that can be trusted.
And blockchain isn't really ready.
So everything has to take a step back and be real simple paper.
So here's my idea.
And some people have called it far-fetched.
And like I said, I don't think there's anything out there that 100% cannot be gained.
But first of all, mail-in ballots out of it.
That doesn't mean you can't get an absentee ballot by the traditional means, which is very, very marginal.
In fact, so marginal that they don't even wait for the absentee ballots in the past to declare the winner.
One person, one vote.
They come in, they vote.
Everything is streamed via webcam.
So the entrance, the votes are then in the middle of the room.
No way to leave.
No magic box, no David Blanery, okay?
And then what happens is they, exactly, no magic box, no David Blanery.
Then they take the ballots out, take a little piece of vinyl so that you put it over the person's information, and then under a webcam, each person, as they check, because you're supposed to have two people checking them, that vote is in the public eye in real time, and at least you can get an audit on what the votes look like.
Whether or not they're valid after the fact, whether that person gained the system or not, I find that a way for citizens to be able to audit in real time, to question in real time, and to have some kind of, because these are all physical ballots, some kind of receipts on these things.
Now, will that stop people from voting in several districts?
In other words, driving around doing that?
Probably not, right?
Are there other ways to gain that system?
I mean, what are your thoughts on something like that going kind of high-tech and low-tech?
That's great.
And that's actually how it's done in some countries like Chile, where there's a plastic bag, a clear plastic bag.
People go and drop their ballot into.
Everything is transparent.
Everyone can see it happening.
A bag is sealed and initialed at the end of 100 votes or something like this.
Everything is transparent.
That's the way it needs to be done.
But there are other problems.
There are problems that the voter rolls are stuffed.
If you're going to stuff the ballot boxes, you need to first stuff the voter rolls.
And they have stuffed the voter rolls.
So a lot of the fight has to be about getting those cleaned up.
There is a system called ERIC that is supposed to, 31 states are part of this consortium.
So if somebody moves from South Carolina to Montana, your name is supposed to be wiped out here when it gets added on a voter roll there.
And Eric is this database that in the middle of it.
George Soros is a funder of that.
Well, guess what?
We love George Soros.
Well, what we have found out in Arizona is although they've been a member for some years, six, seven years, they get the list back every month about, okay, Eric, the system Eric, is telling Arizona, these 200 voters have moved, they're gone.
They don't ever erase them from the voter roll.
What they do is they take it and they just add it to the list of votes they get to vote come election day.
So it turns into the real function of ERIC is to let the dirty county election officials have a list on Election Day of the thousands of people who don't live there anymore and aren't going to be voting so you can actually get the ballot for them and vote it for them.
That's how it's being used.
There's all kinds of chicanery like that that has been unearthed.
Well, you know, one of the things I would say is they love to surveil us.
They love to use facial recognition.
So again, put those tools in place in these places that are being surveilled so people can't vote several times.
Again, nothing's perfect, but obviously the system we have right now is so corrupted and clearly unquestionable in today's atmosphere that it must be changed.
So Patrick, let my audience know right now where they can go to support you and what the best action they can take right now so that the midterms are legitimate or at least more legitimate.
The best thing you do is come to cloudhub.com and look for the America Project.
It's social media for activists, cloudhub.com.
And join us, join our effort.
We're putting together a network of networks and we're all just trying to get election integrity peacefully, peacefully.
No violence.
Anyone who uses any violence is going to screw us.
Pardon me.
We lose if you go violent.
And remember the other side are Americans too.
We don't want to be killing anyone to get killed.
That's one thing.
Another is there's a site that True the Vote is promoting we're going to get behind called Iv3.us.
And it's an app that you can download.
You can sit on your porch eating your Cheetos and it lets you look up registered voters in houses around you.
And if there's a house across the street that's got two voters and you say, oh, registered voters, Bill and Mary, I know them.
They live there.
That makes sense.
Oh, there's one that has 11 registered voters, but there's just some old widow who lives there.
It lets you report it and it goes and actually track it through that it gets resolved.
So Iv3.us, but really come to CloudHub, look for the America Project at CloudHub and become part of our team.
Well, I love the work you're doing.
I'm encouraged by it.
I think that more people have to take that initiative, realize that this is going to be a process, a battle.
But if we don't have free and fair elections, you know, the country that's already been eviscerated will be no more.