The Epstein "Client List" Cover-Up With Nick Bryant
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yes sir yes i would have to agree with that as well we We are live and we are live across the board.
I'm very happy, guys, to be live with Nick Bryant, really one of the few mainstream journalists out there that has delved into, in any regards, high-level sex trafficking of children.
It was my pleasure to read this very, very, very well-defined, well-sourced article that gets into a lot of the names that you're not going to hear in the mainstream.
You know, one of the reasons I called this the Epstein client list cover-up with Nick Bryant is because this article specifically delves into the quote-unquote little black book that was not leaked by law enforcement or put into evidence by a prosecutor.
Instead, the only time it was put into evidence was to prosecute the butler that made it public.
And to get into that cover-up and some of the names that we're going to go over, I want to remind people that in the Ghelane Maxwell case, as you can see here, they showed pictures of hard drives, stacks of Maxter hard drives.
They showed pictures of the safe that had what?
The CDs and DVDs burned.
They showed pictures of the binders with the binding on the side blacked out.
They never entered any of the material that was in there into evidence.
And really, that prosecution was a limited hangout farce.
Nick Bryant, thank you for joining me.
What do you think about my intro and the fact that, again, they had all this evidence in public and we, the people, have never really seen it.
The cohorts such as Sarah Kalen, Nadia Marcinkova, Leslie Groff have never been brought to justice in any way, shape, or form.
And even with what we know about Epstein and Ghelain Maxwell, it's extremely limited.
This was a complete cover-up.
And what troubles me about this, I wrote a book about a very similar child trafficking network that was covered up in the 80s and late 80s, early 90s.
And I had thought to myself: if a network receives enough mainstream media attention, we will eventually out it.
And I was really, I've felt really forlorn throughout the last couple of years because our government has covered this up in broad daylight, and Americans seem to be cool with it.
I mean, that's what really bothers me about that.
Here are a bunch of rich sociopaths molesting American girls, some as young as some, well, it's been quoted in sources that some are as young as 12 years old, but then I have a source that says a couple of them are under 10 years old.
So I really lament for my country with this because not only Delaine Maxwell should have gone to prison, but all of them should have gone to prison.
And it really showed how corrupt our Department of Justice is.
If our Department of Justice pursued this like it would pursue a mafia trial, what would have happened was Nadia Marsenkova, Sarah Kellen, Leslie Groff, they would have indicted, been indicted on multiple counts of child trafficking because they all participated in child trafficking.
And child trafficking carries a sentence of 15 to life.
So you rack up about six or seven of those, and then people are going to roll over and tell us who the perps are.
If this was actual American jurisprudence, that's what would have happened.
But we did not get that at all.
Instead, we got Delaine Maxwell for 20 years, which I think is too light of a sentence considering that she trafficked children for 25 years.
She was only indicted on one count of child trafficking.
Absolutely.
And let's get to the meme that's going around.
Because first of all, I want to get to the history of this case.
We know that there's really no law enforcement action until Palm Beach in 2007.
Yet we have Maria Farmer at the very least contacting the NYPD and FBI all the way back in 96.
But the big meme out there, and unfortunately, that's what this, I totally sympathize with you.
We're in this meme culture, right?
Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.
Where's the client list?
Well, Jeffrey Epstein had connections to many, many people that he may or may not have trafficked women and young girls to.
But the bottom line is we don't need the quote-unquote client list because we have a numerous, vast amount of publicly named associates.
And especially with this document dump of over 2,000 different documents, thousands of pages.
This has got to be back in 2019.
Some of the names that had not been publicly out there were now in the public arena.
So you had people like Ahud Barak, you had Bill Richardson, who had the Clinton connections and was the governor of New Mexico.
You had billionaire Glenn Dubin.
And these are names that we know of, as well as alleged co-conspirators in some of these crimes, such as Jean-Luc Brunel, who didn't get the meme that he didn't kill himself in prison.
And then you also have Les Wexner, who, and I'm amazed that our media whitewashes Les Wexner.
And the article that I wrote that you read, I showed that Les Wexner had big-time ties to organized crime.
Absolutely.
And an attorney that worked for his company was shot in the back of the head execution style with a 22, typical mafia CIA assassination.
And there was a homicide report that was drawn up, and Les Wexner was the prime suspect.
And the chief of the Columbus Police Department ordered that document to be destroyed.
But I was very fortunate that I got a copy of it.
And it also shows Les Wexner's additional mafia connections.
He was heavily hooked up to the Genovese crime family.
So here's a guy that a number of people have accused of being a child molester.
Here's a guy that's got obvious connections to organized crime.
And our media, I believe it was a Vanity Fair article that said that Les Wexner became friends with Jeffrey Epstein because Les Wexner was lonely.
I mean, that's the kind of idiocy that's been thrown at us from the mainstream media.
And another thing that's really bothered me about the mainstream media is I've read very few articles and none in the mainstream media that has called for justice.
I wrote an article that called for justice, but most of these articles are just digging up salacious dirt.
They don't care about justice.
And that's really troubling to me, especially when you've got scores of young girls that have been molested.
And being molested, I've never been sexually abused, but that can really damage a person for a lifetime.
Actually, it can damage a person.
It damages most people for a lifetime.
And the more that they're molested, the harder someone has to work to be able to rejoin society in a healthy way.
So these people perpetrated these great injustices, and our Department of Justice, which is filled with ethical eunuchs, aren't going to go after them.
Or at least at this point, they're not going after them.
No, absolutely not.
And, you know, this is an article out of The Independent just yesterday, Virginia Guffray Roberts, who has been brave enough to actually name some of the names and actually sue some of these people for defamation.
There are many people involved in this beyond Maxwell and Epstein.
And you focus in this article on some of the names that are indeed circled in the quote-unquote black book.
Now, before we get into the circled names, I think that it's important to establish that as far as what we have publicly, we have a small portion of one, one source of this information, aka one black book.
In other words, there were many other Rolodex's black books.
We have one version of the flight logs on one of his aircraft where there were more aircraft, where there were helicopters, for instance.
We only have a limited amount of this evidence.
And obviously, by this point, you can't make the argument that after the raids on the island and in New York, that they don't have this evidence too.
In fact, you saw some of it presented there.
What are the chances that one day we will see some of this evidence?
Or has this been really put to the test via the cover-up crew to limit the scope of all of it?
Oh, absolutely.
This is a huge cover-up.
The only way that we're going to see justice is if the American people can congeal around this.
That's the only way we're going to see justice.
And the thing about this cover-up is it can bring the right and the left together.
The right and the left are probably more polarized now than they've ever been.
But this issue can bring the right and the left together.
And we have to do it for the soul of our country.
If we allow these affluent perverts to molest our children with impunity, what does that say about us as a society?
It says that we are approaching spiritual death, or maybe we're already there as a society.
I think we are, unfortunately, already there.
You know, you mentioned Les Wexner.
To Hulu's credit, they have a new documentary series exploring the relationship with Les Wexner and Jeffrey Epstein.
I feel like even the Netflix series that was based on the Patterson novel Filthy Rich was very much a whitewash with him and Malloy.
I felt that the Discovery piece, they did a three-part series.
In fact, you may have been in that one, was about the most hardcore the mainstream had been.
And maybe you weren't.
I know Maria Farmer was actually featured in that.
Talk about the role of the media, because in my eyes, it's only because of the alternative media, people like yourself that kept up on this issue and hammering at home that we even saw the arrest of Epstein that kind of sparked all this in the first place.
Well, I started really, I knew about Epstein in 2010.
And at that point, he was just like a sole pervert in Florida.
And in 2012, I flew down to Florida and I acquired his black book and some other law enforcement documentation.
And then I started to call the victims because there were scores of victims that were in this black book.
And actually, the black book, we put it up.
Gawker and I put it up.
It's out there.
You can Google Nick Bryant Gawker Black Book, and there'll be the Black Book.
So I got the Black Book in 2012, and I tried to sell an article on the Black Book.
I mean, talk about evidence to mainstream media outlets, and nobody would touch it.
And I'd been estranged from a lot of mainstream media outlets because of the Franklin scandal.
When you pitch stories like this to the mainstream media, editors in New York, I live in New York City, editors that run a major media enterprise, like a magazine, they make a lot of money and they're used to the high life.
And they've got kids that they're putting through college or going to put through college.
They've got, they probably might own a place in New York and then a place in Long Island, car payments.
So they're really not likely to take a chance because I can remember when I was pitching both the Franklin scandal and then the Epstein story to magazine editors.
I would look at their eyes just shut at a certain point.
And what that was was cognitive dissonance.
They thought to themselves, you know, this is really a horrible story and we need to help Nick Bryant out.
Or we can just say Nick Bryant's crazy and we don't have to do anything.
And every major magazine that I pitched articles to took the latter track.
And so it's been very hard for me to get this out.
And Gawker, which is known as like the mean kids on the media block, and sometimes they've certainly done stuff that is pretty mean.
They're the ones that had the moral fortitude to publish the black book, which I find amazing.
You've got these other publications that are seemingly drenched in integrity.
But Gawker, the mean kids on the block, were willing to publish the book and the flight receipts that I had, or flight logs that I had.
So although Gawker has been sued into Oblivion, which I think is good for the leisure class or the predatory class.
Providing Girls to Clinton00:05:27
Yes, it is, especially because it was led by Peter Thiel, everybody.
They used Hulk Hogan as a vehicle and the sex tape that they published there.
But it was billionaire Bilderberg tycoon Peter Thiel, Mr. Palantir himself, that funded that lawsuit that eventually took him out.
Because Peter Thiel wasn't happy that Gawker outed him as a homosexual as he was closeted before that.
Yes.
Yeah.
All right.
Actually, he supported, he was willing to support any lawsuit that was suing Garter.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, the Hogan one infamously was the one that finally took them down.
I want to talk, you know, because we're talking about media and how they were refusing to cover this story 2012, 13, 14, 15.
I feel like, and it may be ironic to you, I'm wondering what your take on this is, that it was when Donald Trump, while he was running for the president, was asked by Sean Hannity about Bill Clinton.
And he famously responded, oh, nice guy.
I know him.
He might have some problems because of his friend Jeffrey Epstein.
Now, obviously, we know that Donald Trump also had a relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
It was actually published in Vanity Fair that Jeffrey Epstein and Ghelaine Maxwell were riding on Trump's private jet.
And he made a comment about not being late for somebody else's plane, which of course suggested that he was also riding on Epstein's plane.
We had the media later come out, and there were some reports that Epstein was so close to Trump that he actually set up the meeting with his current wife, Melania, via like 20-plus models of these women that were auditioning for wife number three.
What is your take on Trump using the Clinton-Epstein relationship as leverage, number one?
And then, number two, how all of a sudden it seemed to be okay for, I would say, conservative media and then mainstream media to start reporting on Epstein.
And you even had politicians on both sides of the fence starting to talk about it after that, especially when Acosta became part of the Trump administration.
Well, with Donald Trump and Bill Clinton, there's a proverb that says the upper crust is a bunch of crumbs held together by dough.
And there weren't any degrees of separation between Clinton and Epstein and Trump.
They all knew each other.
And Epstein had 22 contact numbers for Clinton.
And he was obviously providing girls to Clinton.
There was an English publication, I think it was the Independent, but don't quote me, that talk about Epstein bringing girls into the White House when Clinton was there.
Not underage girls, but probably 20s.
So Epstein was providing Clinton with women when Clinton was president.
And Clinton was definitely at the island.
And I mean, the Netflix was a whitewash, but at least they got that right, that Clinton was at the island.
And the island was a place where there were, that's where the real big-time depravity went down, is on Epstein's Island.
And what's really interesting, I don't know if this has been reported, but Jeffrey Epstein had a bunch of sea urchins that surrounded his island.
He put the sea urchins there so no one could swim off of it, which is kind of interesting.
So let's get to Donald Trump.
Alfredo Rodriguez was the house manager for Jeffrey Epstein.
And he was the one that purloined the black book that I eventually ended up with.
And how what happened there was he was trying to sell the black book to an attorney that was litigating civil suits against Epstein.
And he called it the holy grail.
And he tried to sell it to the attorney.
The attorney called the FBI and the FBI ultimately busted Rodriguez with it.
But he had circled names that had been in cahoots that he had personally witnessed that had been in cahoots with Epstein.
And Donald's Trump name is circled.
They have had a protracted relationship.
So I think that the depravity of the Epstein administration, the depravity of Epstein et al. went into the White House, two different presidents, a reprotic prisoner.
Well, obviously, you have the relationships there.
And one of the contentions of some people on the right when I was making these reports that they obviously knew each other, I'm not sure about the underage sex trafficking aspect with Trump, although you did have Katie Johnston record that deposition, basically accusing Trump.
That was in the news for a little while.
Jail Escapes and Cloning00:09:16
She was allegedly 16 years old.
That gets dropped.
What's your take on that?
She was allegedly 13.
And I found her.
And I've sent her a couple of emails.
I sent an email to her about a year ago, and then I sent an email to her a couple of months ago.
Because I do have a podcast now.
And I asked her if she wanted to be on the podcast.
I told her I'd, you know, black out her face, modulate her voice, but she hasn't gotten back to me.
And she has put together a life for herself.
And I've been investigating child trafficking and writing about child trafficking for 21 years.
And I always err on the side of the victim.
And so although I do know who she is and I do have her contact information, I've only contacted her twice over the last year because she, if what went down, if she says what went that went down, which she says went down, she was heavily traumatized by this.
So I haven't pushed, but I did find her.
And again, you know, I look at all information.
So I've watched that.
It is extremely disturbing if that's the case.
And it's even more disturbing that we know that even with what she said, there were a multitude of other victims in the Epstein case alleging similar things, especially in the fact that you had 30-plus victims via the Palm Beach case.
Now, when he finally does his time, right, after pleading to one count, I believe, of solicitation and then one of a minor, you know, again, that's child abuse.
His term is in the county jail, but it came out later that he wasn't even really spending every day in the county jail and was often allowed to leave, correct?
He was allowed to leave every day.
Yeah.
And he had his little corner of the county jail decked out like the Taj Mahal.
And he was paying the Marshals, they were making money off of him.
Jeffrey Epstein was spreading his money around.
And the only inconvenience that he had, he wasn't able to have orgies at his island.
That was probably his major inconvenience.
A lot of people can't grasp that aspect of it because, again, you had a private investigator that was actually following him during this time period.
And when he was allowed to leave and go into these homes and buildings, young girls would show up again.
You know, so all the evidence suggests that even when he was supposedly paying his debt to society to our justice system, Nick, he was continually abusing girls and even, like you said, being enabled by members of law enforcement because he was putting them on salary.
Wasn't he also hiring off-duty cops as security?
I'm not sure about that, but I will say that his 13 months in the county jail wasn't even a speed bump for him.
I believe that he was molesting girls when he was taking a, when he would leave during the day, and he certainly was molesting girls after he got out of jail.
I mean, he was molesting girls for 25 years that we know about.
So the farmers, Maria Farmer, as you mentioned, originally reported him in 1996, but he was up to it before then.
So we don't really know exactly how long he abused and trafficked young girls, but at least 25 years.
And let me also argue that it was not revealed that Maria Farmer did this until 2017.
And that's extremely interesting because you know that she went to law enforcement.
She had to wait 20 plus years, or I'm sorry.
Yeah.
Yeah.
20 plus years to come forward, 21 years to come forward for that even to be a thing.
Obviously, I suspect there are other people that went to law enforcement over Jeffrey Epstein even prior to Maria Farmer and then either weren't around later to do this or really didn't know what to do.
What are your thoughts on that?
I mean, I've always said that there could have been other Maria Farmers.
Maria Farmer is the first one that we know of, the first documented one.
The same thing was true in the Franklin scandal.
Lawrence E. King was running this nationwide pedophile network and social services came forward and they were ignored.
It's just kind of amazing how corrupt.
And the Franklin case and also Epstein, it just shows the corruption on multiple levels in our society.
And earlier we talked about is our society tumbling towards brain death, spiritual death, or is it already there?
And I want to be an optimist about this because I've been at it for 21 years.
But if we can't get the procurers, which are essentially pimps, and these perpetrators indicted, it'll show me that America is an empire that is free-falling in decline.
You talked about Les Wexner.
You talked about how he's basically been exonerated by the media.
We have two other people that weren't exonerated by the media.
Jean-Luc Brunel, who happened to be in the book, also circled.
We have photographic evidence of him on, well, more than photographic evidence, but photographic evidence that was used in the Maxwell trial with him, Maxwell, and Epstein, another person involved in the fashion industry, much like Wexner.
And then you also have currently Peter Nygard, who was in the fashion industry as well, had his own island.
We'll get into Zorro Ranch in a moment.
And he's in Toronto.
They just added two more charges to him.
Brunel, of course, in February, allegedly hung himself in Spain, I believe.
His lawyers come out and said that there were numerous suicide attempts before that.
And I would just say this: without any evidence, I know that everybody talks about being suicided.
You could put somebody like Jean-Luc Brunel in a situation where maybe something was happening to him every single day, beatings, sodomy, rape, where he might want to take his life.
I don't know for sure, but they certainly didn't want him to stand trial, in my opinion.
So, what are your thoughts about this network?
Number one, being involved in modeling obviously gives you access to beautiful women and young girls who want to be in the modeling industry.
Claude Hadid and others in the 80s were running these multiple apartments of 14-year-olds, for instance.
Do you think that these people are involved at a higher level?
You know, because people like Nygaard into eugenics, stem cell treatment, immortality.
Epstein had the quote-unquote baby-making ranch in New Mexico.
What are the connections between fashion, models, and kind of this abuse scenario?
And then Epstein was also into transhumanism.
Yes.
I'm sure he's cloned himself.
He was a megalomaniac.
And cloning is relatively easy these days.
So there's probably some Jeffrey Epstein.
Instead of the boys from Brazil, it's going to be the boys from Coney Island.
And hold on, let me stop you because I don't want my audience to get too excited.
Nick Bryant says clones of Epstein everywhere.
When you talk about that, a lot of people now are talking about oh, doubles and clones.
You're not talking about a gestated 60-something-year-old Epstein clone.
You're talking about taking his genetics and then basically cloning them to have a baby that would be born with the same genetics as Jeffrey Epstein, correct?
Yes, exactly.
All right, continue.
And actually, it's quite easy to do.
I mean, take the DNA out of an egg, you deposit the other DNA into the egg, and either through chemicals or electricity, you can start the motosis process.
So, I mean, we've been cloning mammals for years.
We cloned Dolly the sheep 25 years ago or 24 years ago.
So, we're very advanced with cloning.
But anyway, cloning aside, this went all the way up.
Dark Corners of Intelligence00:15:29
There's a very dark, malignant corner of our intelligence.
And I wrote about it in the Franklin scandal.
I wrote about it in Confessions of a DC Madam.
And I've got a book coming out in August where I write about it again.
But there's a very dark, malignant corner of our intelligence that compromises people.
Either sexually or, I mean, if you have any illicit habits, you're going to get compromised.
And even if you're married and you're a politician, if you're a Republican politician and you're married and you're having affairs, that's the end of your career.
If you're gay, except for Barney Frank, that's probably going to be the end of your career, too, especially if you're a family values gay guy like Larry Craig or Haster, the Speaker of the House.
So these guys that are in this very dark corner of our intelligence have been doing this for a very long time.
And they compromise people.
They'll compromise people with children.
They'll compromise people with young women in their 20s that are beautiful.
They'll compromise people with young men, good-looking young men in their 20s.
Whatever you want, or whatever they think will elicit a response from you will be dangled in front of you.
With the Franklin scandal, what happened there was there would be parties.
Craig Spence, Lawrence C. King, and Craig Spence ran this pedophile network, and Craig Spence had a nice home in Washington, D.C.
Well, actually, it was larger than a home in Washington, D.C.
That was word for audiovisual blackmail with pinhole cameras, much like Epstein's place in Florida, his place in New York, and also the island.
So what would happen is Spence would invite a lot of power brokers to his parties, and it would just, it would start out as a regular political party, a Washington, D.C. party.
And then after the guests had been plied with alcohol for a number of hours, something sexually inappropriate would happen, or someone would break out a line of cocaine, something like that would happen.
And people that wanted no part of that would split.
But then the people that stuck around, and they'd been plied with alcohol, so they were malleable.
The people that stuck around, they were compromised.
And that King and Spence worked for that dark, malignant corner of intelligence, and so did Epstein.
And there's a really interesting anecdote about Epstein.
Brad Edwards was going to be on my podcast next week.
It's a really good interview.
Talked to Spence, talked to Epstein's bodyguard.
Epstein had this heavy-duty bodyguard.
And Epstein had his bodyguard go to the CIA and attend a class for a week.
And then he was given like a pamphlet about the class that he attended.
And there was someone in the CIA put a letter in there and told the bodyguard to give it to Epstein.
So that's just additional evidence that Jeffrey Epstein was in cahoots with the CIA.
And then we have that quote by Alexander Acosta when he was being vetted for Trump's administration for labor secretary.
He was asked, well, why didn't you go after Epstein?
And he said, well, I was told that Epstein was intelligence and to back off.
And how many people can tell a U.S. attorney to back off?
The order has to come from high on high.
I mean, it's either the president or the attorney general.
Let me follow up on that really quickly.
Because when that again came into light, it was published by Vicki Ward.
I believe it was in Vanity Fair.
Zero Hedge picked it up.
Within days, Acosta had held a press conference and he was asked that very question about intelligence and he spoke around it.
He said he was aware of the report, but don't believe everything that you read.
So again, he didn't say yes or no.
I believe it was within 48 hours of him being asked that question that he was stepping down as the labor secretary on camera with Donald Trump.
Yeah, it was a tough ride for Alexander Acosta.
He had to cover up this huge pedophile network, and then he had to step down for being labor secretary.
You know what we need?
We really need people to do their jobs.
We needed Alexander Acosta to do his job.
The feds were aware of 34, 35, 36 victims.
I've got it, all the victims that they were aware of.
And no one got indicted for molesting any of those underage girls.
It's really sad that people can't do their jobs or aren't willing to do their jobs or they're ethical eunuchs and they just want to go to the next plane of power.
And Alexander Acosta certainly went to that next plane, but it didn't work out for him that well.
Well, let's talk about planes of power and people doing their jobs because we saw, again, the island.
We saw the New York establishment berated.
But what we didn't see was anybody investigate Zorro Ranch, again, the alleged baby-making ranch.
And once we got those documents via that 2000 document dump, in detail, there were descriptions of Bill Richardson, who was the governor.
He had run for president.
He was part of the Clinton cabinet, also a council on foreign relations guy.
He's never really been named.
I don't know of one major media outlet that has named him, that aka put him in a story on Fox, CNN, MSNBC, et all.
And they never went to this compound that was one of the most secluded of all.
And Lord knows what they would have found there.
What are your thoughts on Zorro Ranch and Richardson in particular?
Okay, so the governor of New Mexico after Richardson was Bruce King, and he is circled in the black book, as is Bill Richardson.
So Epstein had really augered into New Mexico and he didn't, and Epstein was trading young girls that were 12 or 13 around.
And he didn't even have to provide, he didn't even have to register as a sex offender, a sex offender in New Mexico.
So basically, he had his run of the state.
And if Bill Richardson and Bruce King were in fact compromised, which they seem to have been, and Epstein's working for that malignant corner of intelligence that does compromise people, Epstein's going to do whatever he wants in New Mexico, and it sounds like he did.
Absolutely.
And again, I look at that place.
They had the helipad there.
There could have very well been some kind of underground facility there.
In fact, the island was notorious to have perhaps underground facilities in them as well.
That brings us up to the cover-up crew.
You briefly mention Bill Barr in this and Bill Barr making the statement that, for instance, you know, those that were part of this network, they better not rest easy.
Now, this is prior to the arrest of Maxwell, which you kind of go over the where in the world is Ghelane Maxwell drama that we all witnessed post-Epstein arrest.
I actually happened to be in New Hampshire the day after she got arrested.
I went to her hideout, the tucked away.
The Guardian was actually there in a couple other publications.
What are your thoughts on Bill Barr being part of that cover-up crew?
Obviously, a longtime asset of intelligence, a cohort in the original Bush administration, aka the first attorney general at that time, and then attorney general under Trump.
I think it was a huge mistake, obviously, giving him that position of power.
But we even had a report in the New York Post that prior to Epstein's quote-unquote suicide attempts, that Bill Barr had visited the prison.
Bill Barr is really, really, really dirty.
And He was the one, Richard Thornberg was Bush One's attorney general who started the cover-up of the Franklin Network.
Now, the Franklin Network was much bigger than the Epstein Network.
It required two grand jury, actually, three grand juries to be subverted.
And all the markers were called in for the media, too.
And Bill Barr, once Richard Thornberg went to run for the Senate in Pennsylvania, Bill Barr became Bush One's attorney general, and he put the finishing touches on covering up Franklin.
And then he was brought in to cover up, I don't know what else he did, but he was definitely brought in to cover up Epstein, and he did a remarkable job.
And if your listeners really want to take a dive into William Barr, just Google William Barr.
And the internet has a lot of truth about him.
Or maybe Robert Johnson and talk about that Iran-Contra era when he became.
Yeah, you know, that and that's really where I'm getting at.
Is this an extension of the Iran-Contra network that we only got a glimpse into?
You know, for instance, Prince Andrew, somebody else that you talk about in this, a lot of people don't understand this, but he was the arms dealer for the United Kingdom.
Adnan Khashoggi, for instance, was named as a possible ally of Epstein.
And that, again, was brought out there by Vicki Warren.
Epstein were friends.
Khashoggi and Epstein were friends.
Khashoggi, Iran-Contra, arms dealing.
Prince Andrew, UK, arms dealing.
You know, these are billionaires with real power in the military-industrial complex.
And it seems like Epstein is somehow connected there as well.
And, you know, as I said earlier, there's a dark, malignant corner of our intelligence.
And yes, they were responsible for Iran-Contra.
And yes, they were responsible for Franklin.
And yes, they were responsible for Epstein.
Some of those players go all the way back to the Kennedy assassination.
It's kind of interesting how it's this malignant mass just keeps morphing and morphing and causing more murder and mayhem around the country.
And for that matter, around the world.
I got to agree with you.
Another person featured in this article is somebody that every once in a while I still have to see on television, Nick, and I don't love it.
And that would be Alan Dershowitz.
And Dershowitz, again, I believe he had almost a dozen, I think 11 different contacts in that black book for Epstein.
His story.
He was circled.
Yeah, he was circled.
His story has never added up into how he met Epstein.
He says that he was introduced to him by the Lady de Rothschild, I believe, or Evelyn de Rothschild.
And we have evidence that he knew Epstein prior to that.
You talk about flight logs all the way back in 1997.
He has counter-sued people like Virginia Guffray Roberts, and he has defended not only Epstein, but the lawyer for Wexner, I believe, also in those depositions.
Tell us about Alan Dershowitz and your feelings of him in this network.
I think Alan Dershowitz is, you know, there's a couple of words that I'd like to use to describe Alan Dershowitz, but let's just call him an ethical eunuch.
And I'll be polite that way.
Alan Dershowitz doesn't have a moral barometer.
And he obviously molested some of these girls.
We've got that from Virginia Guffri named him as a perpetrator.
Sarah Ransom said that she was told to have sex with Dershowitz.
And Maria Farmer said that when she was at Epstein's New York mansion, they kept girls upstairs, underage girls, and that Alan Dershowitz came into the mansion and made a beeline for upstairs.
So he's gone on this heavy-duty offensive.
He is sued.
It's really interesting.
Brad Edwards and Paul Cassell, who are real heroes in this, they're attorneys.
They backed Virginia Roberts, Virginia Guffri on a affidavit that said that she was molested by Jean-Luc Brunel, Prince Andrew, and Alan Dershowitz.
And we've already seen Jean-Luc Brunel kill himself and Prince Andrew shell out millions of dollars.
And Dershowitz sued Brad Edwards and Paul Cassell, and that, or actually, he said that they were horrible lawyers in line.
So they sued him.
Dershowitz sued him back.
And Dershowitz vowed to the American lawyer, a trade magazine, that he was going to get their licenses to practice law.
They will never ever practice law.
Well, that turned into a stalemate, and they're still practicing law.
And in that article, he also said that he only flew with his wife and his daughter exclusively.
And when I wrote an article for Gawker, he was interviewed, and there were a number of women that he flew with Epstein that were not his wife or his daughter.
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There was Claire and Tatiana, and he had no answers for those at all.
So Alan Dershowitz has been prevaricating about his relationship with Epstein for a very long time.
And I don't think he's going to, he does have a reputation of being a great lawyer that represents psychopaths and thugs.
But I think that his reputation will ultimately be one as a pedophile.
I think that's how he will be remembered.
And it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
With that being said, I don't know if you saw it, but the lights just started flashing.
I wanted to go another 15 minutes, folks.
But this has been a great 45 with Nick Bryant.
Sheer Post is where you can find this extensive article, The Jeffrey Epstein Cover-Up, Pedophile Lies, and Ghelane Maxwell.
Nick currently has a podcast.
But, Nick, how do people support you financially?
Where can they go?
What are the websites?
And what books do they need to get right now?
Because the Franklin cover-up, I was telling somebody about it just yesterday.
It's that important and it's that poignant and it's that, you know, really distinct to what's happening still today with these networks.
My website is NickBryantmyc.com.
And that has my blogs.
It has my last podcast and it has the books that I've written.
And if you go to nickbryantnyc.com, you'll be able to knock yourself out, buy my books, read my blogs, listen to my podcasts, and it just might be edifying.
You do great work, my friend.
Again, we got to keep this relationship up.
Any kind of breaking news, please send it my way.
People can also follow you on Twitter at Nick underscore underscore Bryant.
It's tough to get in there, but it's a Twitter account worth following.
We're going to keep up on this because, again, Nygaard's still out there.
There's a big network besides this.
And we've only seen a fraction of what this network was all about.
I'm a little bit hopeful about this Hulu documentary series.
We'll see what they say about Wexner.
But unfortunately, I don't think Wexner is ever going to be brought to justice, at least in this lifetime, Nick.
Well, here's the thing about that.
I've spoken at a number of anti-trafficking conferences, and I've also spoken for the International Society for the Study of Trauma Dissociation at their international convention.
And what I have learned over the years about predators is they prey.
I mean, that's what predators do.
They prey on children.
And all those predators that were in the MC network, they're not stopping.
Those guys don't stop.
Underage girls are being pandered to them probably as we speak, or they're being set up with underage girls.
So they're not going to stop.
And that's what makes this so egregious is that we have all these perpetrators that are going to go on and just destroy the lives of young girls.
And it's really heartbreaking to me.
I agree.
It's one of the reasons that I highlighted on this show so much, and I've been talking about it for over 15 years.
Nick Bryant, thank you once again.
We'll have to do it in the near future.
Okay, Jason, have a great weekend.
You too.
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