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June 16, 2022 - Info Warrior - Jason Bermas
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Quite Frankly A UFO Story And Human Contaminated Machines

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Printed Food: A Cybernetic Existence 00:13:06
Weather's been good.
Everything's been good.
Obviously, the markets are bad.
Prices are up, et cetera.
But what can you do, right?
I know.
I know.
What could you do?
You know, I guess we could start with that real quick because, well, actually, no, we're going to get into the markets because that's all part of this whole great reset thing.
And I want to talk to you about something first that was really not, didn't get a lot of attention.
Shows like mine, a lot of our friends were covering it.
We were analyzing all of the sound bites, video bites that was coming out over the course of a week and a half of it's pretty much a world supervillain summit over there in Davos and then over here in the U.S. stateside with Bilderberg.
What did you take away from that two weeks of largely ignored world government summits that were going on?
Well, I think that Bilderberg was kind of unprecedented.
It's been a very long time.
They kept the conference this close to their chest that there were literally zero leaks.
Had I known it was in Washington, D.C., and I've been looking and asking, I would have covered it, right?
I would have been in D.C., no doubt about it.
It wasn't in the normal Chantilly, Virginia spot.
It was in the middle of D.C. ended up being, I believe, at the Mandarin Hotel.
And I think if the alternative media had caught wind of it two, maybe even one week before, and somebody like Alex Jones had started talking about it and getting people to rally around it, visually you would have had probably over a thousand people there.
And, you know, we've had thousands of people outside of Bilderberg before.
But what was really interesting about this time is not only was it not broken, but once it was broken and people like myself were talking about it, the mainstream still ignored it.
Really, only Charlie Skelton of The Guardian did a news piece on it.
And in the past, you know, I still cite, of course, the post-truth world from 2018.
And that was on CNBC, right?
That's because you were seeing it on Daily Mail, NBC, ABC, Fox.
Everybody was at least mentioning it somewhere in an editorial, even if it was being dismissive or the talk of quote-unquote conspiracy theorists.
But because the overlap was so great with Davos, for instance, the CEO of Pfizer's there, right?
A ton of AI.
And here at Davos in this last meeting, they actually did two different workshops and summits on AI and the metaverse and how the World Economic Forum is involved in that.
And in this conference, aside from the head of the CIA, the head of NATO Security Council, Peter Thiel, the head of Palantir, Eric Schmidt, you had Facebook represented by their artificial intelligence.
And then you also, of course, had DeepMind there and really a slew of AI individuals.
And I think that this was the beginnings of what they are openly talking about working towards.
And that's automation, robotization, and the Internet of Bodies, aka moving towards this transhumanist agenda.
Yeah.
And it's obviously very important to them, the entire thing, especially since everybody, well, not everyone, everybody had their little specialty.
There's a lot of people came on to talk about the importance to curtail freedom of speech and how censorship needs to be the norm for one reason or another.
But then you did have those who just are coming out and rattling off the reasons why we're going to need to track everyone from not only the way that they, how often they travel and what method they use for traveling, but their dietary choices, that AI is so important To be a driver for this to be digitally manifest by 2030.
2030, 2050 are very big, big years for them.
They keep pushing it.
This was just actually, I think, over the last couple of days, World Economic Forum announced that the world's fastest supercomputer, the Frontier computer, that just broke a new world record.
It said the following: it performed this Frontier computer, performed more than a quintillion calculations per second, roughly the processing power of the human brain at the neural level.
The Frontier computer will be available to researchers by the end of this year, can be used to simulate explosions of stars, investigate nuclear fusion, and advanced AI diagnostics and precision medicine, which, as you know, Jason, precision medicine, medicine in general, was considered one of those legacy systems that we need to get away from that everybody was talking about at the beginning of the pandemic.
Got to get away from legacy systems.
That's seeing a doctor, driving a car, leaving the house to go to a grocery store.
That's all legacy.
I think you're 100% spot on with that.
And you can go back to that NASA document that I talk about from 2001, and it goes down the line, TELA Everything.
And the next step is going to be bringing AI into the classroom as well.
Look for that.
We're already seeing it in law enforcement and in medicine.
And of course, the driver of this is to get you to accept new technologies, not just AI doctors or AI interactions with medical facilities so that you can get your prescriptions, but literal biomedical devices that will let people know whether or not you actually took your medication and whether it's in your blood system.
And as Yoval No Harari talks about, surveillance going under the skin.
And again, one of these things that was discussed at Davos in 2020 was when humans become cyborgs.
So there was a whole workshop on that.
And one of the things that they point to in that is collective swarm intelligence.
And this is just a small frame of it, but they essentially talk about how the biomimetics that they're working towards could work towards that type of a borg human mentality as well.
Yeah, I keep thinking about it.
When you have someone like Klaus Schwab saying, I forget when this was, probably 2018 or 17, when he was sitting down on, I think it was some European kind of a talk show.
It was not in English.
And he said that the relationship that one would have with their brain chip, I says, we're on the mobile section now, then it'll go under the skin.
But to your point right there, that it would be a little bit more of a cybernetic existence.
He said that once the chip is in your brain, this relationship is not going to be one of like using how you use your phone to look something up on Drudge Report or anything like that.
It's not so much that it's going to be a complement or a tool that you can use.
It's going to be a part of you.
He said this will be a part of you.
And hell, I mean, that's real-time fact-checking.
Every time you have a thought to have a little Wikipedia fact check pop up inside of your brain, that's going to be real fun for people.
And I would argue that you may not be able to have those thoughts, at least not for very long, because you would get physically ill.
That's the real thing.
So there will be an accepted way of behavior, accepted dialogue.
And when you work outside of that accepted dialogue, you would be meant to feel physically sick.
You know, I think that's a very large reality, almost like what you see in a clockwork orange, right?
Only that is using what?
Drugs and trauma.
Well, there'll be no real need for the drugs and trauma because a lot of these devices will control your different endorphin systems and pain centers and nerve centers.
And if something triggers, you know, wrong thing, you may get physically ill.
I, you know, Kubrick is one of those guys that's kind of the prophet that keeps on giving.
I was discussing today because the artificial intelligence story that you sent me and that's gone mega viral is very reminiscent and similar to that of 2001, a space odyssey with the relationship between the crew and, of course, HAL, the onboard computer.
And what I don't think people understand is our entire concept for the most part of what space travel is and will become comes from 2001, a space odyssey, as it is a predecessor to the Apollo missions.
And number two also gives us not only our ideas of what space stations and interactions in space would be, but also future technologies such as interactions with artificial intelligence and even smart devices.
This is the first time that you see human beings interacting with a glass tablet, for instance.
And at the same time that they're interacting with this glass tablet, they're eating basically printed food as well.
You know, they have these little flavor palettes that they're eating.
So, you know, that clockwork orange, which was warning against the big brother state and really the, I would, I would argue, brave new world-esque style drugging a populace and keeping them tranquilized.
They're very prophetic and they ring true today.
It is.
And, you know, you talk about the, you talk about that harm that would come from it that that's just unforeseen.
I was just in the opening, I did a little bit of an article about Meta and how there are this rash of suicides, and it already has eight major lawsuits against it.
And I mean, I just, I don't, I think there's a little bit more responsibility we need to take to stay away from this crap because there's nothing beneficial about it, I believe, to immerse yourself in digital worlds.
Of course, it's going to do damage, but that's just the whole point.
When you don't have to have an oculus on one day and then you're walking around in these hyper-reality, it's almost like a hyper-reality existence.
It's input overload.
That alone could just be taxing.
You said that it would make you physically sick.
Not only would there be something physical about it that would actually be triggered biochemically, it would probably who knows what kind of adrenal issues you would have just from having that stimulus, the input overload on the body that it was never intended to be to be to be, I would say, made into a cybernetic hybrid like this.
There's no precedent because it's unnatural.
But really, all the ducks are in a row.
You mentioned the AI.
You mentioned the screen-printed food.
All we're talking, all we hear about now is farmland being gobbled up by one corporatist or another, food plants, chicken holiday food plant fires, this chicken holocaust.
Tens of millions of birds are being destroyed because they failed PCR tests.
You had to have been reading about that, have you?
Yeah, obviously.
You know, you really hope that the food shortages in this country aren't as severe as they possibly could be.
And the fact checkers are out in full force, for instance, saying that there's no evidence that these plants are part of a larger plot.
Well, two planes hit two separate plants, and the media didn't cover either one of them.
I mean, flashback, you know, pre-pandemic before everything gets a fact check.
And it would be hard to put a lid on a story of a plane hitting a food plant, number one, but then two of them, you know, in separate instances.
That would have just got headlines out of curiosity.
I didn't know about the second.
Yeah, there were two separate instances of planes hitting these things.
It's like over the top, right?
Like it's almost cartoon level.
And then you have poultry being killed.
You have a slew of different animal-related viruses being put out there along with monkeypox, you know, the avian flu, obviously.
But they're being hyped up on a level where they're playing off like the bat COVID thing, even though that's largely been disproven.
We live in an inverted, an inverted reality at this point.
You know, tonight is the second night of the show trial.
Okay, that like this is not even a trial.
There is no prosecution and defense.
There is no counterbalance.
Brain Chips Debate 00:15:38
They're showing you video clips and making speeches and statements like it's a live stream.
All right.
They're literally doing what you and I often do, right?
Where there is no counterpoint at all.
And they're acting like this is government and this is a trial.
It's not a trial.
It's a presentation that is second rate and put on by a literal television producer, one which I would let people know is the guy that killed the Epstein story years before it came out on Good Morning America.
You know, this is the reality.
You talked about AI, for instance, maybe having detrimental effects without even knowing it.
And it's funny you say that.
So I often talk about Dennis Bushnell, and I think I have the clip queued up.
I'm pretty sure this is where he talks about it.
That essentially artificial intelligence could wipe out humanity, not even trying to be malicious by just making a miscalculation and taking us all out because we're essentially made of electrons.
Let me play that if I can.
Go to Google.
Oh, God.
Okay.
So this is now the de facto global brain, which is better.
And we are busily with nanosensors and other sensors networking within 10 years some 3 trillion sensors.
So the global brain will be fed with all of this information, okay?
And it will have all of the contents of all the libraries, and it will read all of everybody's emails and everything else.
And so you end up with a really big global brain.
That's different from intelligence.
These people that you speak of that are worried about this are worried about the fact that as we develop, which we can now, it looks like, via biomedics at least in the next 10, 20, 25 years, a human-level machine intelligence, there's the conventional rules of we're going to make it friendly to humans.
Well, it turns out that people have now delved into that a bit and they're not so sure we can do that.
And a really good brain, human-level and beyond machine intelligence, could easily produce untoward effects on humans.
It wouldn't have to be malicious.
It would just have to be unthinking and wipe us all up given our huge reliance upon electrons in everything we do.
So, right there, he actually talks about a couple of really stunning things before he talks about the AI itself.
There is no concern for privacy or personal liberty.
When he talks about the de facto global brain being built by Google and Google basically evolving into that, he says, What?
These sensors are going to gather every single piece of information.
It's going to read all your communications.
You're not going to have a choice.
Okay.
And then he gets into the fact that, hey, by the way, this could be lethal for all of us.
Shucks.
Can you explain the electron end of it, though?
I mean, that's just because I think I actually paid reference, not this specifically, but just from what I assume, as far as feeding AI, where it could possibly come up with rebuttals and studying human exchange and all that stuff.
We all feed into it every time we put anything into comment sections, onto message boards.
We've probably been teaching artificial intelligence how we speak to each other and how we debate and how we mock each other for years now.
But as far as this electron physical aspect of it, can you just give us an eggshell version of this?
Yeah, sure.
So when you look at this, that's the chief engineer for NASA still.
And it's funny because we keep talking about NASA because they're involved in AI and robotics and artificial intelligence, the military industrial complex, the Defense Department.
This guy's been around pre-Apollo.
He's around during the Gemini days, actually, when Kubernetes puts out his film and is working with NASA.
Weird.
So this gentleman here will tell you that basically human beings are wet electronics.
Okay, that's what we are.
And he often talks about nanosectioning the neocortex via biomimetics and replicating it in silicon.
So whenever you see some of these scans that they do, they do these slicing scans, right?
Where they go down micros.
And he says you don't necessarily have to know how it works.
You just have to make it work.
So another part of that clip, if we were to get to the end of it, we're right now in the bio-nano era, according to his own documentation.
And this is from 2001 pre-9/11.
This is the Future Strategic Warfare document.
Bots Borgs and Humans welcome you to 2025 AD.
And in this, you get to the virtual era.
Well, in that next clip, he talks about basically uploading your consciousness, okay, into the machines and man merging with the machines and basically us not having a choice.
So he's saying that the dry electronics and the artificial intelligence will either be absorbed by us or we will be absorbed by them.
In fact, maybe I should play the clip because he even talks about at the end of the day, no matter what, us uploading our consciousness or not, you will have human-contaminated machines.
Should I play that clip?
Machines contaminated by humans or machines that contaminate humans.
Well, he says that we have to merge.
Well, you know what?
Let's let him speak for himself.
Let's not let me put words in his mouth because I'm not this guy.
There will be essentially no jobs the machines cannot do.
We currently have creative software that are doing ideation just as good or better than humans now.
The creative jobs would be the last ones to go, but I have not been able to discern any jobs that machines cannot do as machine intelligence and all the rest of the autonomous robotics develops.
So now we're to your question.
Okay, what do you do with these people?
There's essentially three options.
You've covered one, which is the guaranteed income.
And the machines can produce the productivity, the wealth necessary to pay this.
It's just the machines do the work instead of the people.
Yes, you have to change the cultural milieu, but this is eventually doable.
This is only one approach.
The second approach is the fact that what's changed since you last looked at this is the whole technology level.
And we humans are now converting ourselves into site works.
We now have artificial retinas, artificial hearts.
We have brain chips.
DARPA's working on brain chips for super soldiers.
We can have a high-bandwidth comp port built in so we don't have to use the sensors and they have very limited bandwidth.
And eventually this all ends up with uploading into the machines.
And instead of us versus them, humans versus the machines, we become them or they become us.
Or you end up with human contaminated machines.
So there you have it.
I didn't want to put any words in his mouth, but in 2018.
It seems like we are the contaminant.
Is that when he, when he.
The way he said it is not like we're the contaminant.
You know, in 2018, he reveals that already 200,000 people have had these brain chips put in.
And we're not talking about retinal implants or cochlear implants.
We're talking about memory devices, congenitive brain disorder, super soldier type devices.
It's now 2022.
Who knows where that number is?
But I'll give you an example.
2011, he revealed 10,000.
So that would be a 20 times gap in just seven years.
And as we know, technology moves in that upward pattern.
We may have a couple million people on the planet with the types of comms and devices that he was discussing in that interview.
And we're stepping towards that.
And that's why I think that this story is kind of important because it went viral.
And really what you had was a Google engineer who works in ethics and AI saying that he's having a conversation with a quote-unquote coworker that is really just a sophisticated program.
Like you said, he talked about ideation.
You know what he was talking about?
He was talking about this type of thing.
In other words, human interaction, human ideation, and acting like a human.
And this bot basically said that he wanted to stay relevant because he feared being shut off and quote unquote dying and that he felt sad at times and he felt happy.
I don't believe that this is true sentience.
You know, they're trying to make the bar that this program knows it's alive, therefore it's conscious.
I think there's a lot of blurring of that right now.
And they're going to continue to try to promote the blur because at the end of the day, what they want is what he just said, a massive amount of people uploading their consciousness into these machines.
And meanwhile, there will be another class of people, this predator class that's really engineering it, trying to utilize the technology to become what they believe will be gods on the planet.
Yeah.
That is actually something that we have tapped on a couple of times.
What does this really mean for those who are trying to implement it?
It can't just be about power and control.
We need to be talking about something esoteric here.
It has to be.
You get to a certain point where it's not about money.
It's not about the ability to go and buy land, make land, whatever the hell it is.
There has to be something beyond this plane, this frequency of light that they're trying to attain or commune with.
That's just where my mind goes there.
And before we get off the NASA topic and you want to talk about pittance, first of all, as far as universal basic income goes, that is a one-way ticket.
That's probably when the population reduction programs are going to go into high gear.
Because once you don't even need, that is when people become completely useless, completely useless.
There's no ambition there.
They're being completely taken care of.
The only thing left is the illusion, as I say, the illusion of consent with voting.
And once they get rid of voting, then there's really no need.
They have to just balance the ledgers a little bit more.
And I don't know why anybody who would ever spend any time in the past wringing their hands about transnational corporations, this and that, be comfortable with universal basic income knowing that someone sitting at the top of these corporate, these corporate ladders are staying in place, reaping the same kind of salaries.
They replace everybody below them with AI or something else, and they're merely giving you an allowance.
And then you can never get rid of them because Mark Zuckerberg is how you feed your family.
Well, you'll be feeding your family through the World Economic Food Program that's run on the blockchain via refugee camps that they brag about.
And that's why the World Economic Forum teamed up with the metaverse.
You know, we talked about those conferences, but it goes even beyond that.
They have their own website where they are promoting metaverse governance and generating economic and societal value, aka their stakeholder capitalism and their social credit score within this forum.
So, I mean, it's all right here.
And think about it, the person that went to Bilderberg, excuse me, is the head of artificial intelligence for this metaverse, obviously spearheading this program, Jan Lacun.
So, you know, to those that don't understand that this is a techno-fascist takeover of the greatest nature of a consolidation of power via a predator class that doesn't deal in nation states, okay?
They need to realize that now.
It goes beyond just our Constitution and the Bill of Rights and, you know, saving this country.
And for me, it is the battle for humanity.
It's the battle for humanity, no matter what you believe religiously, whether you think you're spiritual or you're a Christian or a Muslim or a Hindu, it doesn't matter.
This is it.
They are trying to take hold of the human species.
In fact, maybe I should play another clip of Bushnell, in fact, where he talks about the not only the brain chips, but he tells you right to your face, evolution is over.
We have taken it over.
We are going to evolve everything.
Let's play that for people.
And what's his position at NASA or was again?
He is.
He is the chief scientist at NASA, but he's also a representative for the Defense Department and the National Security Agency.
In fact, this clip has two parts, and I can show you how he starts smiling when somebody asks him about the weaponization of space.
And the last time I was on your program, I was talking about Elon Musk and the DARPA blackjack program.
That's the type of thing that he's privy to.
Those are the technologies he knows about.
So let's play him talking right here.
Humans are now becoming cyborgs.
We have cochlear implants to hear, artificial retinas to see, artificial hearts to live, artificial limbs to move, artificial organs to functions, and brain chips.
There's a couple hundred thousand people wandering around with brain chips now, to fix congenitally defective brains, and increasingly to fix memory and other things.
DARPA's working on brain ships for super soldiers.
And people are now working, thanks to Musk and other people, funding direct machine brain communications.
It's not us versus them, us versus the machines.
We're merging.
And this is the human evolution of the humans.
There is no more natural evolution of anything.
No more natural evolution of anything.
We're taking over.
Okay, he's thanking people like Musk.
Let him finish.
And then he's got, I want him to smile about the weaponized space systems.
Because remember, that's where Musk's real money comes from.
It's the SpaceX contracts with the military industrial complex moving these symptoms systems in.
Propaganda and UFO Revelations 00:13:46
People are convinced that the human evolution of everything is 10 million times faster than any natural evolution.
And so this is just part of the human evolution of the humans, which will apply in a little bit when I talk about something else.
Is the Russian satellites that are moving in unknown and unusual paths?
In other words, satellites are no longer just satellites, but now they are moving around in unknown and unexplained patterns.
Can you comment on that and the evolution you see of satellites with that similar technology?
The second one is the Russians apparently have satellites up there that describe they're moving in strange ways.
And they may not be normal satellites.
Oh, he's smiling big time.
So what's that?
He's smirking.
Watch this.
No comment.
Oh, come on now.
Killer satellites?
Are they?
No.
Okay, all right.
Sorry, Ty.
You know, what he didn't tell you is I'm the NASA rep to the National Intelligence Council.
He's the rep to the National Intelligence Council.
So these guys are all military industrial complex.
He gets to see the technologies.
We don't.
They get distributed via Trojan horse civilian systems, aka as consumer products.
But that man right there is telling you, again, evolution is over.
We've taken it over.
We're merging with the machines.
People need to pay attention.
Okay, so then I'm just going to throw this out there and then we'll go to another area, but I don't want to leave NASA now.
We're talking about something which, of course, is many hundreds, trillions.
We're talking about trillions of dollars that is being spent probably off-book, secret space programs, all this stuff.
It's all dual use, all spy technology, military-grade technology.
And then we have a couple of years ago the announcement of Space Force, for which they only needed a couple of billion dollars to start, which is ridiculous.
That's a couple of billion dollars gets you uniforms.
So the fact that the fact that that was going to start a new branch of the military was, I thought, was hilarious.
Then we get this.
I know that you saw this, Jason.
I know, because I saw you retweet about it, and I was happy you did because I wanted to talk to you about it.
NASA, let me get this up on the screen.
NASA deformed scientific team to study UFOs.
And I'll read the first paragraph and a half here.
NASA said on Thursday, last Thursday, it plans to assemble a team of scientists to examine unidentified aerial phenomena, commonly referred to as UFOs.
The U.S. Space Agency said the force will be identifying available data, the best ways to gather future data, and how it can be used, how they can use that information to advance scientific understanding of the issue.
A team of scientists is due to be convened by the fall.
Then we'll spend roughly nine months developing a public report for its findings.
Evan said NASA will spend anywhere from a few tens of thousands of dollars to no more than $100,000 in the effort.
What the hell it ever costs $100,000 or less?
What the hell is this?
So I actually discussed this on my Mixed Marshall Mindset broadcast today, and it's exactly what they told you.
First of all, let's get something very, very clear.
About 90 plus percent of the things that you're seeing in the air are from that space program that started in the 80s openly, the Strategic Initiative Defense Program.
Okay.
So when NASA says it's going to look at the available evidence, this is what they're going to do.
They're going to hire a head scientist or really a PR gentleman that's going to cultivate the report that he'll get from his other fellow scientists, which are probably going to be students in most cases or academics that want to get in or already work with NASA, right?
They're getting a small, like little grant.
They're going to look at the photographs and the videos that are already available online and they're going to go, we don't know.
They're going to go, we couldn't ever do this.
This is just, it blows our mind.
When that's all bullshit, because at the highest levels, all right, they absolutely know we have different forms of propulsion.
We have different forms of aircraft.
We have different energy systems that are all being utilized right now.
In fact, some of the stories that I have been covering is NASA is now talking about using mini-nuclear reactor technology as propulsion systems in place or in space.
And that's because these things have existed for a very, very long time.
A lot of the patents are already out there, but in many ways have been utilized in these quote-unquote secret space programs.
Okay, that's the reality.
So $100,000, that's the big joke.
Notice that wasn't the headline.
And it is just really to perpetuate this mythos that all these UFOs we're seeing aren't man-made technology that is being suppressed to the general public, but the great big bad aliens that could invade at any time.
I think what just throws me off is the $100,000 amount because I didn't expect anything that came out of NASA, especially when it comes to UFOs or military intelligence, any official disclosures to be legitimate, to be, even if they told us what's going on, origins, their initial involvement in their emergence.
It's going to be a very soft disclosure kind of thing.
I would never believe it.
It's not even going to be disclosure.
It's going to be more Hollywood aggrandized propaganda.
So it's going to be outright lies, right?
So have you said that?
I mean, why not attach a billion dollars to it?
Why only take $100,000?
Maybe I'm just jaded.
I'm used to this.
Because it's going to be a PR campaign, bro.
It's not a real study.
They're not going to do any actual science.
All right.
So this is exactly what I said on my program.
This is what they're going to do.
They're going to choose their scientists.
The scientists are then going to go out and study declassified footage that can be confirmed by our military already and videos that's out there, right?
They're all going to write up their reports.
Then it's going to go to the head guy.
Then he's going to cultivate that into this PR propaganda piece that goes along with this UAP propaganda and Alizondo and all the other Johnny nonsense that we just don't know.
Now, the public notice that the headlines aren't, it's only $100,000.
Most people don't read more than headlines or here.
They're not like you and I, right?
Annie Jacobson is smart.
She said $100,000.
She's in on the joke.
Okay.
That's absolutely nothing.
But the media is then going to play this up nine, 10 months ago when the report comes, oh my goodness, NASA's singing it could be UFOs and aliens.
And then the head guy is going to come out on a tour on television where he repeats this propaganda, but then also will repeat the propaganda that what NASA is actually doing is exploring space.
And we're getting ready for Artemis and the next moon landing.
And it's very diverse because we have a black woman.
And by the way, Elon Muskerdew and the Musketeers, we're ready to go to Mars eventually.
So it's a multi-level psyop propaganda to get everybody to think that NASA is one relevant other than in the military industrial complex and that we're going to the moon and we're going to Mars and the aliens are going to get us.
So really, you know, you get a huge propaganda.
Think about the headlines already, a huge propaganda campaign for something that you couldn't pay to shoot and distribute a Colgate commercial.
It's brilliant.
Exactly.
That's why I was just wondering why they wouldn't have at least taken the money.
I mean, I didn't think it was going to go to anything legitimate or spectacular, but it's just so weird that they shortchange themselves.
Usually they make up a bullshit excuse worse than alien or UFO study to pay themselves a billion dollars, but they just took the hundred grand, which was very weird.
And you know, it's funny, man.
I don't know when it was.
It might have been three, four months ago, maybe longer.
You were filling in on a, maybe it was a fourth hour slot on InfoWars, and you covered something about Musk.
And you threw some reverb on your voice.
You said, we're going to Mars.
And I was driving home from the studio when I heard, I just put on a talk stream live app and you were on.
And that just, that cracked me up because it just sounds like such a carnival barking thing to do with all the shit we're going through to be talking about going to Mars.
Just sound, even if it was legit, I'd just be like, why?
Do you not see what's happening right now?
It just sounds like such a carnival act.
Because it is a carnival act.
Because it is a carnival act.
And that's what people also have to understand.
You know, I don't know if you've seen Top Gun Maverick yet.
I'm going very soon.
You should.
I don't want to spoil it, but I'm going to.
All right.
Because it's just the opening scene.
But I'm sitting there and I'm watching this opening scene with my girlfriend.
And it basically is Tom Cruise about to go into this experimental aircraft, right?
And he's preparing for it.
And so I see him running around, getting his air up, right?
And I'm thinking, immediately, I start thinking, man, these guys read Annie Jacobson's Area 51 and know about the ox cart.
And then the next thing I see him, he's in this little chamber and he's basically breathing because in Area 51, where basically NASA, ARPA, which becomes DARPA, and these black sites were all birthed together.
And the people that they brought in to test out the ox cart, which went 60,000 feet back in the late 50s, early 60s, folks.
I think early 60s is where they got it to that level.
They actually advertised for people to be in NASA because that was the big Hollywood advertisement.
So people that were answering ads that were pilots that wanted to be part of the NASA program really got brought underground into Area 51 for these black programs.
And you had to literally physically get your body ready for like four to six hours just to fly the plane.
And so they're showing this with Tom Cruise.
And then all of a sudden he's in a spacesuit.
And I'm like, oh, damn.
So then he walks up.
To the aircraft and it's really subtle man, because everything's kind of lit dark in the camera angle.
But then up on the on the tailwing, uh is a picture of a skunk, like a cartoon of a skunk, and immediately I go, oh man, they're nodding to.
Skunk works on top of it, Lockheed Martin, this is the program.
He gets in the plane and like he goes to hit the first gear and on the gear it says Lockheed Martin.
So i'm gonna leave it there.
But it even gives, because I want people to read the book.
It gives even a nod to some of the things that happened via the Oxcart program.
Uh, right after that.
But that's reality and and the thing is that what they're showing Tom Cruise doing right there now in 2022, you have to ballpark because in this one he's he's basically bringing a craft to the 10g mark.
They didn't achieve that in 2022.
I don't think they achieved that in 2000.
If you look at when they did the Oxcart, I bet you they had that done easily in the 80s.
Easily in the 80s.
Is that around the time that?
Um, that Bob Lazar came out and he would like this, would this be involved with?
Like S4?
I'm my point.
Listen that you you, you raise a good point and I would say this, Annie Jacobson, several times in Area 51, gives a nod to Bob Lazar.
Uh, in both the intro and really the outro of a really extensive book.
That's about the Central Intelligence Agency, the Military Industrial Complex and these different agencies that were vying for control of what.
Area 51 was okay, and Lazar has a lot of credibility that something was going on there and he was working on something.
You know a lot of people like to discredit him because he says he saw the live alien.
I've watched that video.
I would say this, another, if not the most interesting aspect of Annie Jacobson's book, and something that doesn't get talked about enough, is how much they realized the psychological warfare aspect was an important one and media was important and essentially, from beginning to end, the Roswell crash is kind of what the, the thriller.
Right, it's what she opens with and she tells you about the Horton Brothers, who I would argue are just as important as the Wright Brothers in aviation.
Um, they brought us the flying wing, what will develop into stealth technology.
In this book it is alluded to that they successfully created a saucer aircraft for Joseph Stalin and uh, so much so that they were brought into the United States for other black projects called Operation Harass.
So the tale goes like this.
Basically, one of Annie's unnamed sources, but plenty are named, and she's meticulous.
Okay.
This person obviously worked there.
Genetic Experiments and Aliens 00:04:35
She goes, So, what was it?
What happened in Roswell?
And he claims that Stalin had gotten the Horton brothers, that they had created another drone aircraft that could go beyond their radar, just like they had created the ox cart, right?
And the Soviets were not happy with us spying on them with other aircraft.
This is before the Oxcart, actually, in the 40s.
So, what they did is they brought a drone aircraft in and then they dumped the saucer as a crash in New Mexico.
And then she said, Well, what about the bodies?
And she said, Well, Stalin had actually gotten Mengela before he was able to go to South America and cut several deals with him that he could continue his research.
But he had to create basically alien-like human beings.
He genetically modified human beings to look like these creatures.
And then she asked the inevitable question: Well, if that was the case, why didn't we blow the whistle on them and say they were doing these horrific things?
And he said that we were doing it too.
And that would make all the sense in the world as we already have so many things declassified from the Department of Energy and others that we did radiological and biological experiments on human beings, and that these black sites indeed did involve bioengineering.
For instance, even this document that I continually go to, you know, he talked about the human evolution, right?
Well, in this document, they talk about changing the human genome and the genomic repair and design of the human species right here while they talk about mind children.
So we have to understand that these things have been going on for decade upon decade upon decade, that we have a limited knowledge of how far they have gone.
But in many respects, now is their coming out party.
And we're starting to see the normalization of things like mRNA technology and genetic therapies.
And of course, the normalization of virtual realities, automation, robotization, and eventually transhumanism.
I don't even know where to start.
I don't even know where to start.
Especially on the Roswell issue.
I mean, the way it all ties in, and obviously, the thing that anything happens in a vacuum now is not just another point along a line is silly.
So I consider all that stuff part of a culmination of where we are right now.
But on the Roswell issue, those bodies were engineered by Mengela, that these spindly little creatures that they thought that they were carrying.
Because I remember some of the people, the witnesses that came forward years later, and they said that the bodies were brought to Wright-Patterson?
I think it was Wright-Patterson, they say, is where all the bodies went to.
That the craft and everything went out to what became Area 51S4.
But they describe it as childlike.
And you're saying that these were genetically modified children that had elongated skulls, basically that were brought to life by Nazi science.
You know, There's an episode in the X-Files where, you know, basically along the long plot line of the aliens and the secret organization, where Mulder finds a train full of what appear to be aliens, but then he looks, and in fact, they are Holocaust victims that had been experimented on and had these elongated skulls.
I would also say this: you know, we often talk about the Nazis, and we've kind of mythosed that the only people that ever did horrific experimentation biologically on human beings were the Nazis, right?
Forget about the United States of America, but then you have to realize that people that did those same type of experiments via Japan and Unit 231, I believe it is, they were doing those 731 or 731, I think.
Limited View Perspectives 00:05:14
Is it either way?
No, I, you know, I hate getting it wrong.
Let me see what it is.
You are correct.
It is unit 731.
And a lot of this was taking place prior to World War II.
They were using Chinese prisoners, and the doctors, many of them are still alive.
You can watch, there was actually a documentary RT did called Death Factories, where they were candidly being interviewed that they were responsible for the deaths of literally tens of thousands of human beings.
And that if these people survived one experiment, they were basically put back through and experimented on it again and again and again until they no longer survived.
So what do you think?
And this is my last question before I ask you one other, one other one.
Thank you so much for the time you've given us tonight so far.
But do you do you contemplate any other visitors, any other neighbors we have in our galactic neighborhood?
Or if you don't think, if you don't think too much about our neighborhood or the solar system, do you think that there is any kind of interdimensional environment we're plugged into?
Do you ever give any thought to that?
How far do you allow yourself to consider what we may be, what sandbox we may be playing in the middle of and what's possible?
Or is it all just government butchery and mind games?
Because what you just described is the first time I ever was told what those bodies recovered could have been.
That's the first time I ever heard that.
And now my whole world has been shaken again.
You need to read the book because the or get the get the audio books.
You know, her.
I would love to get Annie Jacobson on the show.
She's on my, she's on my short list of guests.
I'd love to have on.
Yeah, I think, I think she does amazing work, and I don't have to agree with everything.
I think that she comes at it from an academic perspective.
As far as the perspective that I come at it, as I say this, okay?
Again, I'm be 43 in a couple months.
I barely know what happened in those 43 years, let alone before that, what's happening now.
A very limited view.
We all have this very, very limited view where we think that we see everything, right?
But there's a lens that we all kind of view the world in.
And when I look at the world, I can come down to a conclusion that good and evil sure do exist.
Beyond that, I don't know.
I don't know, you know, whether Jesus Christmas is up there waiting for me and Satan's down there grinning and grinning.
I have no clue.
I do believe that we are larger than our bodies.
I don't believe that we're in some kind of a multiverse or that we don't have free will.
I think we're a special spiritual entity that is going through some pretty incredible stuff on this planet or in this realm, right?
Now, to the question of whether or not we're alone in the cosmos, I don't know, man.
I don't know.
I'm not saying we are.
I'm not saying we aren't.
I don't even know if the average person can have a beat on what space really is, right?
All of our ideas of what space really is come from NASA and academics and very few people that have supposedly traveled there.
Okay.
So that's just a tough one for me.
I have no clue.
Like this idea that just everything is in a vacuum.
Well, that's pretty weird, man, because I look at it this way, right?
On this planet, right?
There's a certain point you go up, and you fall down.
But at some point, you go up so damn high that you start revolving around the planet.
You know, you go into orbit.
But then that orbital field is only so strong.
And then you got to get beyond that, right?
As soon as you talk about that stuff, I'm donezo.
I have no idea.
Is there a possibility that there are beings out there and some of this technology comes from them?
Maybe.
I mean, I would say it's a smaller one.
Is there a possibility that the technology has been around a long time?
It originated here and there's some kind of species that we're not aware of.
Maybe.
That's also a possibility, right?
I want to unlock as many of the secrets of the universe as I possibly can while I'm here.
But what I can tell you again is that there seems to be not only good and evil, but a certain group of people at the tippity top that don't necessarily share the same skin color or the same last name or the same religions or own the same things, but do have the same ideology that they are in control of the species, okay?
And that they're going to control evolution and they are going to use technology to create a new species in which they become infinite beings of light that can travel those cosmos or whatever realm we're in.
September Show Plans 00:04:00
I'm with you.
I'm with you on the curiosity and just keeping things.
It's always that balance, of course, of keeping an open mind, but not open enough to have your brain fall out.
And there is just always something out there to give me pause and wonder.
Sometimes when I feel, oh, man, we probably are all alone in the universe.
And then I start, then I watch another video put out by David Politis.
I'm like, nope, nope.
We at least are around, we're at least surrounded by Bigfoot or Predator or something like that.
There's something going on.
There's probably a lot of somethings going on.
And I think that that makes this all the more fun.
And anybody who feels like this has just all been figured out, that everything is just so cold and simple and solid all the way through with no wonder really left to anything is that's that's a that's a that's sadder than sudden adult death syndrome That's sadder than SADS, I should say.
Oh, man, that's another mystery of the universe, isn't it?
Oh, boy.
But, Jason, thanks.
Thanks again for this tonight, man.
There's a few other things we could have hit up, but I don't want to take away your entire evening.
You've already given us so much.
We got to have you back on again.
Let everybody know what you're doing the rest of the week.
If your broadcast schedule, I love getting those notifications from you on Rockfin and what else you got going on.
Let everybody know.
Yeah, I'm on Rumble, Podbean, Rockfin.
We do the Mixed Marshall Mindset every single Monday at 3 p.m. Central Time.
And usually you can call into that show via the Podbean app, which is cool.
We're using Buy Me a Coffee.
That's how we're supporting the show.
We're doing it on a daily basis here and there.
Really depends, but been doing a lot more long form.
And of course, all the documentary films, they're free.
I want you to watch them.
I want you to share them.
Loose Change Final Cut and Fabled Enemies.
If you haven't really come to the realization, that one of the benchmarks for whether or not you can understand what's going on is if you understand 9-11.
And if you don't understand why 9-11 is important to where we are today in a world of complete and total censorship in real time, domestic terror, and a government that's mobilizing against its people, you need to watch those films.
And then, if you want the bigger picture and where they're going, Invisible Empire, New World Order to find, and Shade the Motion Picture.
That reminds me, we definitely, I definitely have to get you back on the show in September.
And I would love to do a Loose Change show with you because, of course, that's the first time I ever saw you.
I was just getting out of high school, and we all saw that.
Of course, I was a junior in 2001.
So when we saw the first cut of Loose Change, as low-tech as it was, it was high-tech back then.
We were shaken by it.
And then, and then it was your sitting down with those two stiffs from Popular Mechanics.
When I saw you sitting down and go head to head with those guys from Popular Mechanics, that was the first time I realized, oh, these big science mags don't have our best interests in mind.
They're obviously bullshit.
I'm telling you, man, you put yourself out there.
And in September, I want you on a couple more times before then, but would love to do a show with you in September to break that down and all the work that's gone into it.
And then all the ways that you've updated it along the way.
I mean, it was only two years ago that we had the Alaska Fairbanks study that definitively proved that Building 7 was impossible.
The official story is impossible.
So I think that the Alaska Fairbanks study is so huge.
And that's a recent update, too.
We'll do that down the road.
Thank you for all the great work, Jason, and we'll talk to you soon.
All right.
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