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Stuart J. Hooper On The Globalist Narrative

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Decided to Study International Relations 00:04:27
Hey everybody, Jason Burmes here and we've got another real treat for you, back-to-back interviews today.
And right now we're going to be talking about to somebody who's come at this through a very academic perspective, worked across various great journalistic outlets, is currently with commandreams.org and you can follow him over on Twitter at StuartJ Hooper.
He also does great lectures and of course the subject matter coincides with a lot of things we talk about here, the military-industrial complex, the true deep state, if you will, the global elites, although I like to call them the predator class, and much more.
So Stuart, first of all, how are you, sir?
And tell my audience a little bit about how you got into this subject matter because you were pretty hip to this as you were in school and gravitated towards it, correct?
I miss your audio here.
You put it on mute.
We literally talked right beforehand to make sure.
So there's three dots down here, right there.
Can you hear me now?
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
Go ahead.
You are on.
Okay, awesome.
Yeah, I was trying to get this microphone set up and ready to rock and roll.
In the past two years, I've used a lot of different streaming apps.
This is the first time ever using Google Meets.
But yeah, thanks a lot for having me on, Jason.
Really appreciate it.
I've been a long time follower of your work.
We're talking probably a decade, best part of a decade.
So yeah, I really started to look into alternative news, alternative ideas right around 2008, 2009, when the global financial system, of course, came crumbling down around us.
And the big thing for me there was the question of why are both of the mainstream political parties in the UK, the Labour Party and the Conservatives, why are they saying exactly the same thing on this issue?
And then you look over into the US and it's the same with the Republicans and the Democrats.
Why are they saying exactly the same thing on the economy?
Neither of them seems to be presenting an alternative, a different idea, a different.
And of course, what have I also just then grown up through, the war on terror.
And again, exactly the same thing plays out with the war on terror.
We have two major parties which are supposed to be in opposition to one another.
And instead, they are literally towing exactly the same line on the issues of the war on terror, which of course was continuing those wars for literally decades.
So I decided to get somewhat involved with alternative media over the years.
I've done things on and off myself for the best part of a decade, writing articles here and there, putting out videos here and there.
But I really decided to go an academic route in terms of my career path because I thought that it just might be possible.
And it has just about been possible.
So I decided to go into the study, the academic study of international relations.
And so I started off with a BA, did a master's.
Then I came over to the United States where I also did another master's degree.
And now I'm finishing up my PhD, which is also in international politics and specifically looking at the idea of a technological military transnational elite.
So that's kind of my journey, where I've come and how I'm now sitting here with you.
Well, one of the things that I focused on, and I know that you've also talked about, is the importance of the Bilderberg group, the inner core, and the meetings yearly.
And through the past decade or so, I wouldn't say it was a mainstreaming, but it was in the sense that the group itself had a website.
The group itself was now acknowledging it had a certain list or agenda items.
Progress Eviscerated 00:03:15
Okay.
The group itself was giving out their membership lists eventually.
There were articles here and there.
Some people were taking it more seriously.
And then we get to the COVID-19 44 period where it doesn't meet for two years.
And they're able to keep the location secret up until the day.
There's literally zero Western media coverage whatsoever, really zero global coverage in the mainstream, aside from Charlie Skelton, who does the piece that The Guardian allows to be published.
And still not really a whisper.
It happens in the middle of DC of all places.
It shows me that no matter what progress we thought we made in that decade, they were able to devastate it and eviscerate that progress in a very short period of time through this, what I would call globalist, not just transnational, but now very apparently transhuman agenda.
You there?
Did I lose him?
He froze?
No.
Hopefully Stuart's going to figure it out and the link is going to come back because I, man, this sucks because I've really wanted to talk to him.
And hopefully we are going to find a way.
It looks like he's going to probably have to restart.
Yes, I hear you.
I hear you, sir.
And then he went away.
You see, the internet, the wonky internet across the ocean.
And there I am.
So, you know, this will be a good time because I'm sure he's going to come right back in for everybody to thumbs this video up, subscribe, and share.
Remember that we are on The Rock.
And there he is.
He's back.
Can you hear me, sir?
Yes.
Sorry about that.
I know what happened.
Everything froze up.
No problem.
No problem.
You were right at saying that the progress in the movement has kind of fallen off a cliff.
Yeah.
Well, I would say in many respects.
And not only was that progress eviscerated, but we could get to the point where now I don't even call it quote-unquote Chinese style censorship, right?
It's just censorship.
We have it in real time.
We have it on a multitude of issues.
And this is a globalist, not only transnational, but very apparent transhuman agenda.
Yeah, so I've been thinking about this a lot.
And this is something that I know you've been talking about quite a bit in your videos that you've done on Bilderberg over the last couple of days, in that there seems to be nobody really interested in talking about this as a topic anymore, even in the alternative media to a great degree as well.
And I was trying to think this through, actually.
And I think what we've seen is that even the alternative media now has broken off into these two camps of left and right.
And of course, this is your big line, which I've stolen in a few of my videos as well.
It's not about left or right.
Consolidation Of Power Post-World-War-II 00:15:25
It's about right or wrong.
That's precisely the problem.
And even in the alternative media now, we seem to have fallen into the same trap.
So I think this is also something to do with the problem of why our videos don't do as well as other alternative media personalities may do.
Because well, we're not toeing the line of Donald Trump's coming to save you or Joe Biden's coming to save you.
The Democrats, the Republicans, they're not gonna come and save you.
So we even see, the alternative media has fallen into this trap, which is quite sad.
But yeah, I try to approach these topics from somewhat of a more academic perspective, but also, I think, just the critical common sense perspective to a great degree as well, because in academia, of course, and especially political science in the United States especially, academics focus on the assumption that the Western world is democratic.
Right, that's their starting point that yes, this is democratic and this is therefore your vote matters.
These parties matter.
They are different and each of them has an equal opportunity of getting some different set of interests into power in the government.
Well, that's not necessarily true.
I come from the academic perspective of elite theory, which has a long storied background, which you could take all the way back to the ancient world and I do that in some of my work um, but Machiavelli more of a slightly more modern elite theorist 500 years ago.
But then you can come right back to the start of the 20th century um, late 19th century um, and you can look at figures such as Mosca Pareto, these other Italian writers.
but the big one for the United States is C. Wright Mills, who writes the power elite.
He wrote it in the 1950s and he made the case that the United States is not a pluralistic society, meaning that there are not a bunch of different interests that all have the same degree of capability of taking and maintaining political power.
In fact, it's only a very small group of people that ever come close to that, and that group is what he calls the power elite, and it's made up of political, economic and military interests that really emerged after World War Ii um, this collection that that came together um, and not in any conspiratorial fashion actually um, but just because the, the state of the world, had pushed them in this direction, where they'd been given all this power.
So then you look at that and think well, why are they still in power?
Well, because they tried to, they.
They tried to do everything they possibly could to maintain that Power.
So they had a coincidence of interests and they worked to maintain those interests and they have done so successfully for a very long time.
And one interesting quote from Mills actually is this one.
He says, to accept either view of all of history as a conspiracy or all of history as drift where everything's happening randomly is to relax the efforts to understand the facts of power and the ways of the powerful.
So yeah, this is the perspective that I'm coming at this from.
And once you start to think along these lines of, well, are there really lots of interests that can take power or are there not?
Well, then you have to question a lot of assumptions about Western societies.
Well, I think it's interesting you bring up the post-World War II because that's also what I focus on as a consolidation of power and really what was being warned of by Eisenhower in the military industrial complex that grew in a rather short period of time if you think about it because post-World War II,
we took that Manhattan Project model and then we really incorporated a lot of the tools that the Nazis used, aka their fascistic tools, working with private industry in chemicals and beyond, and of course engineering and utilizing these underground bunkers to create what is often referred to now as the actual deep state and projects that were quote unquote born classified.
That's why I think Annie Jacobson's work is so important that people understand that, you know, Area 51 kind of was born out of all these events happening at once and them wanting a place for them to work on weapon systems, propulsion systems and beyond in a base that not even the president was going to be aware of and projects the president wasn't going to be aware of.
It was an executive within an executive.
And, you know, post-World War II and especially post-Eisenhower, it's grown tremendous levels to the point now, it's not just Homeland Security in this country, it's programs like signature reduction.
Yeah, absolutely.
And when you look at everything that did happen in that post-World War II world, you definitely do see what can only be described as a consolidation of power among those elite interests.
And when you think through precisely, well, then what does that mean?
Well, it means that there's something that's been going on, as you kind of said, behind the scenes for a very long time that has been out of reach of even the president.
Well, if something is out of reach of the president, how is that within reach for you and I?
It's not.
Because if we vote for the president and even the president doesn't have objective power over some of the things that are going on within the American government, which he absolutely does not, well, then there's a democratic deficit there of some degree at least.
And in fact, there's a good book called Blank Check by Tim Weiner.
And he writes on this whole system of the Pentagon and how it used these black budgets to do a whole lot of stuff that was entirely off of official books.
And that's actually how Army Special Operations in the United States was created.
It was created by essentially a rogue office within the U.S. Army that was misappropriating funds to go and do things on their own without any oversight whatsoever.
So yes, a lot of this stuff is very real.
Again, if you bring any of these discussions into the room with Americanists in political science departments, for example, well, they don't want to hear it, right?
They just, because they almost can't hear it.
Because if they do hear it, well, that means that if the U.S. isn't a democracy, well, that undermines literally everything that they've done and their whole approach to the world, right?
Because it completely invalidates it.
And yeah, and you kind of alluded to this also, but since World War II, this has also now gone beyond the nation state.
And this is kind of the direction also that elite theory has taken in the academic world.
So those few academics that are willing to write on this stuff.
Peter Phillips, who you may have heard of, he writes the Global Power Elite, did a lot of stuff with Project Censored.
There's also William Robinson, another guy who's still writing on this stuff, still active.
Peter Phillips just retired.
Well, they make the case that now elites no longer exist within the nation.
They exist beyond the nation.
They are now transnational elites, meaning that they do not have to be tied to any one country.
They go wherever they want because they have the financial and political power to do so.
And then they use and abuse the individual nation states to reach their goals and agendas.
It's very much the Rockefeller model.
You know what I mean?
When you talk about transnationalism, he was very open about that in his own literature, in his own biography.
He even said that it was against the best interests of the United States.
And of course, David Rockefeller is one of the forefathers at the helm of Bilderberg, which we discussed earlier.
But I want to stick with World War II because I think it's so important.
At the time, the Central Intelligence Agency doesn't exist.
But post-World War II, I think it's really important that people understand that the agencies that came out in swift order, the OSS, forming into the Central Intelligence Agency.
And then when the Russians were able to get the first satellite up into orbit, we immediately had ARPA, which becomes DARPA, the Advanced Research Project Agency, and NASA almost simultaneously.
Now, one of the really interesting things to me in Annie Jacobson's literature is people that were applying to be NASA astronauts, because obviously that's what a lot of people were seeing in the propaganda at the time.
It's the space race, and we're going here and it's for humankind, etc.
They were actually bringing in people to be pilots on their experimental aircraft, such as the Oxcart, the Silverbird, and others, you know, Lockheed Skunkworks and other projects.
Speak to that and how these organizations interlocked on that level and were often not only vying for power, but running similar programs simultaneously.
And it was really one of those things where they modeled things after the Manhattan Project because of compartmentalization.
Most people didn't have the whole picture.
Yeah, absolutely.
And when you look at these corporations in particular, you find that yes, they are very much interlocked with the government.
And yes, the CIA, very central to a lot of this.
And another guy who I know you're aware of, Peter Dale Scott, has written extensively on the CIA and what the CIA has been involved with throughout history.
And it all ties back into this military-industrial complex system.
And of course, the role of drug money within that as well, which is kind of his specialty.
But yeah, the skunk works and things like this and NASA, super important in terms of understanding the world.
And Zbigniew Brzezinski, in one of his books, he actually writes that the main element of strategy today is no longer who controls a certain strait of water or a certain river or a certain, I don't know, like mountain somewhere, right?
Today, the key element of military strategy is outer space.
And I think in that book, I think he was actually writing in the late 1970s.
So if they're writing about that in the 1970s, and yes, Reagan, Star Wars, all this stuff, right?
What do you think they have today?
What do you think is going on behind the scenes?
And the U.S. isn't as open about a lot of this stuff.
You'll see the Russians and the Chinese, they'll come on their mainstream news and they'll say, look at this big new hypersonic weapon that we've got.
It's so brilliant.
It's so great.
And now we can destroy the evil Americans with it, right?
Is essentially what they're saying.
Well, just because the United States doesn't come out on Fox News and parade that stuff around doesn't mean that it does not have that stuff.
And in fact, I saw part of an interview between Joe Rogan and Michio Kaku, is that guy's name?
Yes, absolutely.
And he was saying how the U.S. military, well, they just stopped researching hypersonics because they found out it was so unstable.
Well, really?
Are we just going to take their word for that?
Are we just going to assume that in a world where Russia and China do have hypersonics, right, we can see them and know that they exist, that the U.S. says, oh, you know what?
We just gave up.
We couldn't get it to work, so we gave up.
So it's just, some of it is a bit of beyond a joke.
Well, let me tell you my audience again, why is Annie Jacobson so important?
Because she fleshes this entire thing out.
Her first book is Area 51, but then she realizes, hey, we integrated a lot of Nazis and Nazi tech.
She talks about Operation Harass, the Horton brothers, who I would argue are just as important, if not more important, than the Wright brothers.
But you don't know that because you're not taught that in school.
And we could talk about that story.
But eventually, she writes about a plethora of subjects along the way, but the Pentagon's brain, which is on DARPA in particular.
And all these are technology-based.
When I believe it was Matt Gates who was showboating out there, everybody loves the Gates.
Matt Gates.
Oh, our technology's behind the Chinese.
They've got hypersonic this and that.
She tweeted at Gates actually an excerpt from her book just going on record from DARPA programs, what hypersonic weaponry I believe that they had developed in the 90s through the early 2000s, just in that time period alone, that was public knowledge.
So the thing is, a lot of what you and I talk about, especially when we're talking about technology, it's almost like it's not only documented, but it's just whispered history, right?
We know that there was a real space race between Russia and the United States, but somehow we ended up coming together on the ISS, right?
And we know that China, you know, it's not on the ISS now.
They have their own, I think it's Heavenly Palace or something like that, they're calling it.
But they're also up in space.
And it seems like the first world nations that have a real military industrial complex that is integrated into their economy also have the space weapon, Stuart.
Yeah, exactly.
And in some of Peter Phillips' work, he actually exposes how some of the big Western financial investment firms are also cross-invested with both, say, American military companies, but also Chinese military companies as well.
So there is this cross-investment by this transnational class across the board when it comes to the military industrial complex and military industry.
which I think is particularly interesting.
In my PhD work that I'm doing right now, I'm really just getting into the real case studies, so the meat of it all, the stuff that will probably be more interesting to your audience than some of the theoretical stuff.
But I'm essentially defining a transnational techno-military elite.
So I've found groups of people from the last 20 years within the United States and within NATO as well.
Transnational Techno-Military Elite 00:09:20
And when you look at these people and who they are and where they come from and where they go afterwards as well, it's all the same places.
So we're talking Boeing, the Atlantic Council, Council on Foreign Relations, a big time military industry, you name it, right?
Any of them.
Google, for instance.
You know what?
All these different places.
Let's stop with Google because you talk about techno, right?
And before I even get into this, because we're going to circle right back to NASA in a moment, because I think that's really important in the Central Intelligence Agency and how these are all integrated in many ways.
But when you talk about Google in particular and you talk about drones, their technology, again, Matt Gates, oh, you want to walk off because you don't want to work on the drone technology because you had Google workers that actually had a soul and realized that they were working on artificial intelligence for drones.
Now, if you don't think those algorithms eventually are getting to China, you're kidding yourself.
That's number one.
And number two, in the same time period, it became public knowledge that these engineers were working on a censored form of the internet for China at the time.
But we have that same censored form of internet in the United States in many ways.
Google's the number one search engine in the world, the number two search engine in the world with YouTube, the number one video platform in the world, and the number one operating system in the world.
I would argue it is a Trojan horse civilian system.
It has partnered with NASA to achieve quantum supremacy.
It works in artificial intelligence with them.
And NASA, only about 20% of it, admittedly, is involved in space exploration.
Instead, it is about weapons defense.
It is about transhumanism, futurism, automation, and really at the helm of this military-industrial complex in many ways.
What are your thoughts, Stuart?
Yeah, so in terms of Google, I think it really is a key linchpin of the modern military-industrial complex.
It's no longer good enough to think of the military-industrial complex of just places like Lockheed, Boeing, General Dynamics, GE.
It's now far beyond this.
It now is Google, Microsoft, Amazon, SpaceX.
All of these companies which present themselves publicly as anything but a military organization are now really intimate parts of the military industrial complex.
In fact, Microsoft, Google, and Amazon in particular, I haven't checked for SpaceX, but they probably have it.
Those three, they have web pages entirely dedicated to their role in, quote, defense and how they can work with companies to improve, to work with countries, sorry, to improve their defense.
But yeah, another interesting case there, again, directly in Google, that group of engineers that stood up and said, hey, we don't want to work on this.
And I think it also goes further than just how you put it as well, right?
It's not just because it was AI for drones.
It was AI that is going to kill people.
That is the bottom line for all of this stuff.
And if it's not going to kill people, perhaps it's going to enslave people in some way.
So overall, yes, AI is really central to all this.
You saw it on the Bilderberg attendee list for this year.
All of the heads of major AI companies coming together, meeting in that room with people like the Deputy Prime Minister of Canada, the King of the Netherlands.
And apparently, nobody wants to talk about this.
No mainstream media thinks that this is important.
No one thinks that this is worthy of studying.
So we're just kind of sat here on our own looking at this and screaming on our own small little channels that we've got.
Does anyone want to take a look at this?
I mean, does nobody think that having political, economic, military, and technological elites in the same room at the same time in total secrecy for literally days on end is not important?
You know, you talked about the technology aspect.
I did a video yesterday on Facebook and how it was the head of their AI division that was there.
Obviously, you have steering members like Eric Schmidt, who was at the helm of Google for some time, Peter Thiel on the quote-unquote opposite end of the spectrum.
You have your far left, Schmidt, at least the way they're portrayed in the media, and then your far right, Thiel.
Really, it's all about authoritarianism, folks, and globalism.
You talk about them, then you have Facebook partnering with the World Economic Forum in the metaverse.
And the gentleman that's the representative there is the chief AI officer at the metaverse, is Jan Lacun.
You know, the World Economic Forum, currently, as I showed earlier, has their own website.
It's talking about governance.
It's talking about stakeholder capitalism, metaverse governance, economic and societal value, basically moving that theory into practice.
You've seen my work in NASA.
In 2001, they predicted the bio-nano era would begin in 2020.
They don't know when it ends, but the virtual era is next.
This is that next step into the virtual era.
And as I said, all of these people are meeting.
What are your thoughts on other tech companies?
Because I again believe that not only is Google a Trojan horse civilian system, but Facebook as well.
And then we can move into Twitter and the Muskardoo.
Yeah, sounds good.
So let's quickly return to Schmidt, Eric Schmidt of Google.
So yeah, he's been central to the Bilderberg group for years.
He's also been the chairman of something called the Defense Innovation Board, which is something that I am researching for my PhD.
That is a collection of military industrial complex elites that was brought together by the US government to try to bring all of these technologies into the American military as quickly as possible.
That was the aim of that.
And again, when you look at the profiles of those people, you're talking Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, Google, Facebook, across the board.
And that's really important too.
So just a quick side note.
In terms of American politics, the idea is that it's not just a democracy, but it's a pluralistic system, meaning that there's a multitude of different ideas and interests that might be able to take control of the government or might be able to at least influence the government.
You do not see that at all in any of these groups, right?
The defense innovation board is stacked from top to bottom with people from the military-industrial complex.
There is nobody from outside of it that's included on that board that might just raise a hand and say, wait a second, is this really what we want to do?
Could we maybe consider an alternative path forward?
Do we just want to bring all this technology straight into the military?
Well, the answer, of course, is no, that it's going to happen no matter what.
Another quick side note, trilateral commission.
I'm sure you're aware, so Eric Schmidt, a key member of that.
Another one of your best friends was also a member of that, who I would just say, Jeffrey E.
I won't go, I won't say the name.
We don't want to cyberbully anybody here.
He's also a CFR member into the Clinton initiative.
We're not cyberbullying.
We don't want to cyberbully.
Continue, Stuart.
Sorry.
Yeah, no, we just want to point out a publicly documented fact.
But yes, in terms of the virtual era and AI, so I don't actually, I don't think I have the book here.
But William Robinson, he wrote a book called The Global Police State.
It's a small little book.
You can get it and read it probably in a day if you really want to.
And he makes the case that all of these technologies are essentially creating a global police state because they actually now have the capability to do this.
So thanks to AI, thanks to quantum computing, it is actually now physically and technologically possible to create a complete global control grid.
And of course, who is that for?
That's for you and I. That's not for transnational corporations.
It's not for these power elites.
And we actually see that people themselves, and again, Brzezinski talked about this, are kept in their global ghettos, right?
The everyday people.
That's where they're kept.
And they are then used and abused by the transnational corporations, by the power elites to achieve their goals.
So this is why it becomes problematic when we think about just the general current state of the world, I think, and the real immiseration across the board that we're seeing right now, economically speaking.
Satellites And War 00:09:26
And there's not really too much of a positive outlook on that when you just think, well, inflation's out of control.
We're all losing our jobs.
AI is going to be taking over everything.
Even professions like being a lawyer or a teacher like I am.
Well, even the professions are now being potentially eradicated by these AIs.
So, yeah, what does this mean for most people on the planet?
Probably nothing good.
Absolutely.
And that's where I want to move into the muskaroo.
You know, we were talking about Facebook.
We talked about Google.
The big deal is now Twitter and how Elon Musk is coming to save us.
Even in the headlines today, it looks like Twitter is now going to divulge all of their tweets and backdoor access so he can authenticate what is spam, what is not, what the algorithms are, etc.
That's the word on the street.
I don't know if that's factual or not, but we'll see what happens in the coming days.
Musk has been promoted by the military industrial complex.
You talked about weaponizing space.
Well, SpaceX are taking blackjack satellites, DARPA satellites, in their ride-along program.
You could argue that, again, Starlink is nothing more than a front, the commercialized version for these things.
We know that we have space warfare on a massive level.
And he dropped that again, but hopefully he's going to be right back in.
And yes, here he is.
So, you know, kind of cycling back, because I saw you went out there, you have the Mandrake satellites.
Those are just the public ones.
We know that he increased his wealth more than Gates, Bezos, Sergey Brin, Buffett during the COVID period.
He got the contracts for the electric car, which is now being pushed more and more than ever.
It's a profitable company somehow, yet nobody seems to be driving these things, right?
And he's also pushing DARPA technology via Neuralink that supposedly will hook up to Starlink.
So on many fronts, he's with the sustainability agenda, right?
He's with the environmental agenda.
He's being promoted as a hero.
You know, he's the cool guy smoking weed with Rogan.
What are your thoughts on Elon Musk and where is he at in reality?
So I started off with a very positive outlook on him when he was initially promoted kind of really big time about five, six years ago, something like that.
When he was talking about the initial plan to go to Mars, right, and all this stuff, which sounded fantastic.
And it sounds like something that probably is something that human beings should be doing.
We should be aiming to become a multi-planetary species.
And that's certainly something that I think could be a broad overall aim for us as a species on this planet.
But of course, that really hasn't come to fruition on any level at all.
As you've pointed out in a lot of your videos, nobody is really going to Mars.
The robots are going to be going to Mars.
We are certainly not going to be going to Mars.
In fact, I think actually now probably the most likely outcome in terms of that is probably Elysium, the movie with Matt Damon, where everybody else is left on the planet to rot along with the rotting planet and the power leaks will exist off-world in some kind of spacecraft.
But yeah, otherwise, in terms of Musk, you look at what he's done with Ukraine.
Again, you point this out a lot.
Putting up these satellites, which were publicized in the mainstream media as, oh, look, this is great.
Ukrainians are going to be able to maintain their communications.
They're going to be able to find their lost loved ones.
They're going to be able to look up with the aid that they need.
Well, maybe that was the case, and maybe that was true for some people, and that's awesome.
But what have they also been used for?
Well, to connect drones to obviously a central command and control center to then launch attacks on Russia.
So we could see that there is now a transnational corporation, SpaceX, and everything, and Starlink in particular, that is now involved in helping to conduct a war, and not just any war, but one that could literally start World War III.
And that's something that I've been harping on a lot over on my channel.
The fact that this is probably the most dangerous situation of our lifetimes.
I think it has cooled down somewhat.
But yeah, overall, just the general involvement in that is not fantastic.
And you also have to then, well, how does that action square up with the rhetoric that he's telling us?
Well, he loves free speech, apparently, is kind of in this socially libertarian position.
But then when it comes to using military technologies, A-OK comes to helping out the Pentagon, A-OK.
Well, has the Pentagon, and again, just think back to the war on terror.
Since the beginning of the war on terror, has the Pentagon done anything to bring free speech, liberal values, democracy anywhere on the planet?
I'll wait.
I'll wait.
You know, I keep waiting.
That's my point.
It's like we're in this circular abusive relationship that we can't seem to get out of.
And unfortunately, that's not my life, but some people are willing to do it.
You don't trust known liars.
But I'll say this.
Even a decade ago, the media was less saturated with intelligence officials as pundits, if you will.
You know what I mean?
They were there.
But in most cases, they were on the conservative end of the spectrum and they were selling you on the quote-unquote war on terror.
Now they're everywhere.
And even when it does come to some kind of war, right, you have these people that have awoken to the Davos crowd, the great reset, the great narrative that they're trying to construct, right?
They're aware of that.
But part of that great narrative are these wars.
And guess what?
All of a sudden, the Karl Roves are showing up on Fox News again.
And they're harmonious with the same people, the MacArthurs, et cetera, that are showing up on the left, right, when it comes to Ukraine.
That, you know, we have to fight for freedom in Ukraine.
And the vast majority, if not all of them, are silent in the actual repercussions of what really fourth or fifth generation nuclear warfare and space warfare could look like, Stuart.
Yeah, precisely.
And I think this is something that Glenn Greenwald has actually pointed out quite a lot on Twitter, that the mainstream media airwaves, whenever it comes to foreign policy commentary, are now flooded with former intelligence officials, meaning ex-directors of the CIA, former generals, people that are, as you said, singing from the same hymn sheet.
They are all saying exactly the same thing.
There are practically no alternative voices, particularly when it comes to foreign policy on mainstream media at all.
You can think back, even again, 20 years ago, the war on terror, when that was all kicking off, there were at least some big names that you could still see in the mainstream media.
People like Chris Hedges, people like Noam Chomsky, and you might not agree with these people, and that's fine, but at least they were saying something different, and at least they had somewhat of a louder voice because they were included in mainstream outlets.
Where were these people relegated to?
Well, just in Chris Hedges' case, he was relegated to RT, and RT, of course, now has been entirely relegated to the dustbin of history.
So this is, again, important and important in regards to our position of being non-partisan, of trying to break through this false left-right paradigm.
The media is willing and able to let you scream about wedge issues all day long, ideological issues that are based on individual values as opposed to objective reality.
And of course, your audience is going to know all of the wedge issues and talking about things like immigration, abortion, this sort of thing, right?
They're willing to let you scream and shout about those things because, in the overall scheme of things, well, they don't really matter too much to the power elite, would be my argument.
But anything that does, you see, they are singing in harmony.
The rhetoric is exactly the same.
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And it's not just a problem because it's the same, it's a problem because of what it's doing.
It's saying, look at us, we can spread democracy, we can spread freedom of speech, we love people having the right to vote.
Well, okay, fantastic, but how do you do it?
You do it at the barrel of a gun, you do it by dropping bombs on people.
And there's a long history of this, of course.
And you can make the case that, well, maybe there's some instances of where it's legitimate and sometimes it was the right thing to do.
But clearly, at least the past 20 years, it's been nothing but a litany of failures.
Well, earlier in the broadcast, we kind of talked about what was born out of the war on terror and the acceleration of this quote-unquote deep state that's often talked about and was coined by Peterdale Scott.
Now, you talked about the drug-running aspect, but that goes arm in arm with the arms trafficking.
And I would also argue human trafficking.
We know just alone from the Mind Control Ultra experiments that the Central Intelligence Agency set up brothels coast to coast, mainly in California and in New York, where they were not only again involved in the sex trade, obviously the trafficking trade, but then they were drugging people.
They were running experiments there.
And then they were also blackmailing people because they were surveilling them and then taping them.
I mean, all of this happened.
We only got a small look, a small window into that world via Iran-Contra.
I would argue we got a little bit more of a peak via the Epstein/slash Maxwell scandal.
And that really shows you how it's international.
Even with Iran-Contra, people have to understand that it was the Israelis that were actually buying the weapons from Czechoslovakia and Poland, shipping them down to South America.
It was then the United States would ship the drugs up into South America to then get the profits and then pay off the Israelis, basically to have plausible deniability.
We see that time and time again.
We get to 9-11, and the Bush cartel, as I would call them, has already expanded the continuity of government programs significantly under the Reagan administration.
FEMA, the CIA, and the DOD are now working more harmoniously.
And then post-9-11 in this country, we get homeland security, fusion centers, and now signature reduction.
So speak to the significance of that because you talk about growing up through the war on terror and the fact that they're not bringing democracy as promised.
They're not bringing these westernized ideals.
All they're doing is leaving quote-unquote chaos in their wake.
But they are testing out their new toys.
They are testing out their biometrics and their military-industrial complex drones.
And they are privatizing the military again into this kind of transnational military-industrial complex ideal set.
That's how I see it, Stuart.
Yeah, I think you're pretty much kind of right on in terms of where I am as well in terms of thinking about this as a significant problem.
I think in the post-9-11 world, there are other things that we could also touch on as well, which were passed off as just perfectly acceptable because, oh, well, they're terrorists, therefore we've got to do it to them.
things like rendition, kidnapping of individuals off the streets around the world, whisking them away, and many of them still languishing to this very day in Guantanamo Bay.
And Guantanamo Bay is another excellent example of the fact that there is no difference between the two parties when it comes to foreign policy.
They're always going to do the same thing.
Obama, of course, he made all these claims in the run-up to being elected that he was going to close Guantanamo Bay, that it was wrong.
This isn't how the United States should be treating people.
Well, did he close it?
No.
Is it still in operation today?
Yes.
Did they fool a bunch of people that thought that they were onto some super secret decoder ring conspiracy that was going to save us all, that Guantanamo Bay was good?
Yeah, they did.
Under no circumstances, guys, was Guantanamo Bay a good thing?
Whenever I would hear throw her in Gitmo after they lock her up, I'd be like, you make me sick.
Gitmo is a bad thing for everybody.
We shouldn't be just torturing people.
I'm sorry to interrupt.
Continue.
No, absolutely correct.
And that also, again, goes to critique the rhetoric versus action.
The rhetoric does not align with the action in that case at all.
And I think also something that's important to note also is that now we are in a kind of very interesting international environment where we do have some interesting players in the world, so to speak, in Russia and China, which are actually making moves to some degree.
Russia, of course, very deliberately in Ukraine, but China, slowly but surely also making moves around the world with its Belt and Road initiative, a military base in Africa, making these artificial islands in the South China Sea, all this sort of stuff.
This is, of course, a big problem for us as individuals that are concerned with the military-industrial complex, because what does all of that do?
Well, it gives a whole lot of ammunition to the elites within the military-industrial complex that, hey, well, we need to stay around, we need to survive, and we need to continue funneling literally all of your money, practically all of your money, into buying these new weapons and these new toys because, oh no, the Russians are coming, or I'll know now the Chinese are coming.
And again, the extent to which that is true is up for debate.
I think what Russia did and what Putin did in particular, very unexpected to a lot of people that had been observing Putin and Russian politics for a long time, somewhat out of character, I think.
But yeah, there is this changing dynamic.
But this all brings us back to the technological question.
Well, if there are these rising powers, if Russia is on the rise, if China is on the rise, well, this is the constant justification that they're going to use to, well, we need all of these AI systems.
We need all of these combat robots.
We need to be able to put weapons in space.
We need more stuff like this.
So yeah, overall, that's just generally not good.
And on the continuity of government point, I was thinking about that term just yesterday, actually.
Think about that term itself, continuity of government.
So it's not continuity of civilization.
It's not continuity of the country that we've created and the values that people have and people's livelihoods.
No, it's continuity of government.
I think that kind of just says it all.
And when you look at that, that's very real.
There's a couple of books by a guy called Richard Sawder, who writes on underground bases and tunnels and how they've all been built around the country.
But who are they for?
Well, again, not you and I, therefore, the elites to go and take cover in while the rest of us burn alive in the nuclear flames.
You know, I want to rewind a little bit.
I think the continuity of government aspect is obviously extremely important.
And I have been talking about that ad nauseum, especially when it's talking about the financial system here and the economy and then global financial disruptions.
But you were talking about the Belt and Road Initiative, and you were also talking about the rise of the power structure, power structures of both Russia and China that are an integral part of that.
Could you go over that just for a moment, the Belt and Road Initiative, for my audience?
Yeah, so Belt and Road is essentially a set of shipping lanes and roads.
So infrastructure, essentially, ports, roads, bridges, warehouses, all this sort of stuff that will essentially create corridors from China into Western Europe.
And the idea is to be able to funnel goods and services as quickly as possible out of China into Western Europe and into also North Africa as well, which China sees as an immensely large emerging market, which Africa definitely is to a degree.
But how China's done that has been somewhat controversial.
So they have kind of gone into these developing countries and said, hey, well, we'll build you a bridge.
All you need to do is just pay us back over time.
And we hope you'll be able to keep up with the payments.
Well, unfortunately, a lot of these countries have not been able to keep up with payments, which means then that the Chinese government comes in and just says, well, this is now our bridge.
This is our port.
This is our airport.
And therefore, some analysts have said that, well, this has been an empire by stealth that has been created or is in the process of being created.
People have said that all they're really doing is trying to make a global network, a global infrastructure network that can be used to send the Chinese military around the world as quickly as possible.
Interesting theory.
I'm not sure if it's correct.
But yeah, overall, there are these other big things going on, which may be good, maybe bad.
But ultimately, I don't think they present anything good for us as we're concerned with the military-industrial complex.
In fact, they're good for the military-industrial complex.
Absolutely not.
You know, we've been going for almost an hour.
So, finishing up, I kind of wanted to get your perspective on Davos now being extremely open about not only global governance, but the fourth industrial revolution in general.
In 2020, they had the theme, What happens when humans become cyborgs?
They had two separate forums this year on the metaverse, and that partnership with Facebook right there, shaping a shared future, making the metaverse Davos, and of course, the possibilities of the metaverse.
So, what are your thoughts on becoming the face of the fourth industrial revolution?
What they're calling the internet of bodies and this movement not only to globalization and global governance, but to transhumanism in general.
Yeah, I think it's a key component of all of it.
The metaverse, a lot of people, I think, are writing it off perhaps a little too prematurely.
But again, this comes back to the point we were talking about earlier with Elysium and AI and loss of jobs and all this sort of stuff.
Well, you might not be able to get a job and you might not be able to have any real future for yourself in the real world, but at least you can plug yourself into the matrix and you can sit there and amuse yourself in a virtual world for the rest of your life instead, which who knows, maybe even might go in that matrix direction of everybody eventually being in some kind of pod with all sorts of things stuck into them.
But yeah, overall, this stuff is important.
And all of these fourth industrial revolution technologies, so quantum computing, AI, robotics, space-based systems, anything in terms of super advanced physics and concepts within physics, or...
all of this stuff is now really at the center of what the global power elite are doing and thinking about.
And yes, we see this playing out at the World Economic Forum.
We see it playing out at Bilderberg.
Of course, Bilderberg is a little harder to know precisely what they're talking about.
But just because you have similar people within Bilderberg and the World Economic Forum, it's probably safe to assume that at least to a degree, they are saying the same things.
Behind closed doors, perhaps they're just saying things a little bit more to an extreme degree, which are not really palatable to most people, to say the least.
But yeah, overall, these fourth industrial revolution technologies are central to everything that these people are now doing.
So unless you're paying attention to these technologies and the direction that they're going in and how they're being used or not being used, there's some pushback.
So New York, New York City police, for example, they used that robot dog during the pandemic, but there was so much public outcry that, hey, we don't want this that they got rid of it.
Well, that needs to be upticked 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 times in terms of resistance and pushback against this.
And this is now probably the time to do that.
Because if you don't stand up now before the robot police force comes for you, well, you're not going to have a chance when the robot police force does actually come knocking on your door.
Damn straight.
And something we've been talking about.
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But I look at big issues like the war in Ukraine, like these fourth industrial revolution technologies.
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