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Jan. 20, 2026 - Hodgetwins
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Don Lemon melts down after church protest backfires; DOJ responds

Don Lemon faces intense backlash after a Minnesota church protest, where a speaker condemns the act as illegal pseudo-journalism violating federal protections for houses of worship. The confrontation escalates as the accuser conflates freedom with anti-immigration sentiment, attacks Lemon's identity as a gay Black man, and claims attendees ignore children in concentration camps. While defending free speech, the speaker insists rights don't extend to ridiculing worshippers in private religious spaces and criticizes the administration for failing to arrest similar agitators since taking office, contrasting this leniency with the treatment of January 6th participants. Ultimately, the incident highlights deep cultural fractures regarding where free speech ends and intimidation begins. [Automatically generated summary]

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Storming White Churches 00:14:14
I would have never suspected the Democrats to storm a church in protest.
Never relax around Democrats.
Check this out.
This is exactly
what diversity gets you.
That church is primarily white.
Everything was fine until diversity showed up.
And I'm thinking, a major of them are, this is what they voted for.
Yeah.
Minneapolis.
Yeah.
Minnesota.
Yeah.
Where are you?
Where are your people?
Why are you not at Wimble every day fighting for the humanity, standing for our people?
Where are you?
Yeah, this is actually against the law.
Right.
The assistant AG said a house of worship is not a public forum for your protests.
It's a space protected from exactly such acts by federal, criminal, and civil laws.
Nor does the First Amendment protect your pseudo-journalism of disrupting a prayer service.
Your own notice.
Like Don Lehman was there, and then there was this other TikTok influencer.
That's the guy screaming in the background.
You'll see him next.
You drink your coffee, you got your jewelry, you have your nice clothes, but what do you do?
What do you do to stand up for your Somali and Latino communities?
I'm not going to comment.
You have no comment.
Exactly.
And this black woman right here, she's the head of it.
She said, we want freedom.
Wait, what do you think she meant by that?
We want freedom.
Does that make any sense?
We want, they're in the church.
We want freedom.
I'm like, I wonder what she meant by that.
Because you have every right that every other person has in this country.
Like, we want freedom.
Who are you talking about?
I know what you're talking about.
You're talking about illegal immigrants in the country.
It's like, I don't know.
I'm not sure how you conflate the two.
It's like, you're a very low IQ person.
Yeah.
I mean, you're a moron.
Yeah.
This is what you call white guilt right here.
We support one another.
Y'all support illegal immigration into your country?
You go to Mexico and they deport Hondurans, El Salvadorans all the time.
They keep calling these people neighbors.
They're not your neighbor.
They're here illegally.
Y'all hear a talking point and y'all run with it.
You don't analyze it.
You don't analyze it.
You don't scrutinize it.
You just hear it.
If the Democrats say it, it must be true.
Y'all inside of a church doing this.
There's no common sense here.
All these comfortable white people who are living live in.
This is that guy on TikTok.
I can't get his name.
I think his name is Willie Brown or something like that.
Yeah.
He's an influencer and this dude is just clout chasing.
Yeah, he said comfortable white people.
They're supposed to be comfortable.
They're in a church.
This is America.
This is not a third world country.
He said comfortable.
Look at all these comfortable white people.
They supposed to be comfortable.
They're in a church.
It has nothing to do with their race stand there worshiping their religion.
It's comfortable live while children are dragged into concentration camps.
You're living real life, nice lives with your lattes doing out.
Concentration camps.
Look at that.
She's got this grin on her face like, you poor pathetic piece of a man.
I guarantee you they are all Democrats, too.
Not all of them.
I say a majority of them are.
Statistically, if you look at the demographics on how people vote in the country.
In that state.
Yeah.
I mean, excuse me, in that state?
Yeah.
It is crazy.
Reagan.
Remember that landslide Reagan won?
Against Mondale.
Against Mundale?
One of the states he lost was Minnesota, but he didn't win Minnesota in a year that was a landslide.
Ilhan Omar, y'all think she won her district because of the Somali vote?
No.
Well, the white people, I looked up the demographics.
She wins because of white folks.
Not because of Somali immigrants in the country.
White people overwhelmingly vote for her.
This is how far left Minnesota is.
Yeah, right.
Absolutely nothing for your Latino and Somali brothers and sisters.
You come here to a man wearing a suit is a patriot?
That's crazy.
He stand up for the Somalis.
If they took over that state, it would be hell on earth for the white man in that state.
If they were like the majority in that state, it would be hell on earth.
It's hell on earth in Somalia when it's nothing but a bunch of Somalians.
No, Jesus would die with immigrants.
You can die.
Touch me.
You can touch me again and see what happens.
Now he's in harassment.
He needs to be arrested.
And he's threatening people.
Yeah, they talk about how Don Lemon was there.
This dude needs to be arrested.
Yeah, this is like low-hanging fruit.
This is an easy arrest right here.
You are a fake Christian.
Why are you not standing with your Somali and Latino communities?
Why do I not see you out at Whitbull every day protesting?
Did you hear this guy?
You're not helping.
You're not helping.
Which leads me to believe he understands and agrees with what this man is saying.
You're not helping.
You're not helping.
He's a lefty.
Yeah.
Let's not presume anything, Kevin.
But he said, you're not helping.
I'm thinking he agrees with a lot of stuff he says.
I might be wrong.
Yeah.
This attack on humanity.
Where are you?
You're sinners.
You're pretending to be Christians.
But we know you live an easy life, don't you?
A very easy life while people are starving.
Shame.
Out now.
This guy has the audacity to judge Christians.
And he stormed a church.
Yeah.
I wonder if he read that.
I forget the exact scripture, but there's plenty of scripture that tells you not to break the law.
You got the nerve to call these people fake Christians.
Out now.
Living real comfortable while the people starve.
Living real comfortable while children are dragged into concentration camps.
You're all living real comfortable, aren't you?
Shame on you.
Do something.
Stand with the Somalis.
Stay with the Latinos.
Quit ignoring this.
Stand with the Somalis when the majority of them are on welfare.
If they're born here, yeah.
But we're just enforcing immigration laws.
Injustice.
He wears a suit and tie and he hangs out with Christy Noam.
How is that a Christian?
He needs to be.
You're supposed to accept all immigrants, are you not?
Why are you not going down to Whitfull and joining us in protest against this inhumanity?
You claim to be a Christian.
Act like one.
What do you think of this?
I mean, this is unacceptable.
It's shameful.
It's shameful to interrupt a public gathering of Christians in worship.
But there were folks who will say, I have to take care of my flaw.
Listen, we live in a, there's a constitution in the First Amendment to freedom of speech and the freedom to assemble and protest.
What?
You can't do that in a church, you moron.
Why can't you do it?
Because it's not the public forum.
The church, we have freedom of religion in this country.
And you can stop that with your protest.
You don't have the freedom to walk in on somebody and just pretty much criticize them and scrutinize them, telling them they're not good Christians.
And why are y'all supporting this current state of what's going on in Minnesota with the upholding and enforcing our immigration laws?
You can't do that.
You actually don't have freedom of speech in a church.
You're such a tool.
You sodom.
We're here to worship.
We're here to worship Jesus because that's the hope of these cities.
That's the hope of the world, is Jesus Christ.
I'm very respectful.
Please don't push me though.
Don't push him.
I didn't see any push.
He's not pushing you, but he's trying to create this narrative that he's been violent towards.
Bad faith actor.
That's what Don Lemon is.
He just accused a pastor of being violent.
And we just saw he wasn't being violent.
He said he had to get to his flock.
He had to get to his members.
That tells me he's part of this protest.
Yeah.
Right?
So he's trying to paint a narrative.
Just like he used to do on CNN.
You couldn't even last to CNN.
Now look at you.
You actually trying to explain to a pastor what freedom of speech is in the church.
While they're at church.
While they're practicing freedom.
I mean, just sit back and think about that.
Kevin, that dude is not smart.
He does not have the capacity to understand that.
We're here.
We're here to worship Jesus.
That's why we're here.
That's why we're here.
That's what we're about.
We're about to love these folks.
We're about spreading the love to Jesus.
But they just try to talk to them as a Christian who's willing to talk.
Okay.
So y'all came to talk?
Y'all didn't come to talk.
You came there to disrupt that service.
I've seen people trying the way that man, I forget his name.
What's the guy, the TikToker?
Yeah, Willie Brown.
Willie Brown, the way he was confronting people.
Yeah.
Nah, he's not there to talk.
He's there to cause chaos.
Who could have a conversation with somebody like that?
Yeah.
Who could have a conversation with you, Don, accusing them of pushing and being violent towards you?
Y'all not there for a conversation.
Yeah.
I have to take care of my church and my family.
So, Ashes, you actually would also leave this world.
You don't want us to go.
You're here to worship.
I'm always worshiping.
I'm a Christian.
Well, we're here to worship.
You don't want me to chronicle what's happening?
No, I want you to leave.
He said he's a Christian, married to a man.
What does the Bible say about marriage?
It's between a man and a woman.
You're married to a man.
Y'all like Sodomy.
What kind of religion he practices?
Sodom and Gomorrah?
Pretty much.
Okay, thank you very much.
I appreciate it.
And there's a certain degree of entitlement.
I think people who entitlement.
Yeah, so he goes on this podcast.
He's far left.
He's progressive.
Check this out.
Or, you know, in the religious groups like that, it's not the type of Christianity that I practice.
Yeah, he practices Sodom and Gomorrah.
That's what he practices.
Sense of entitlement is not the type of Christianity I practice.
Yeah, it goes a long way coming from you, Don.
I think that they're entitled and that entitlement comes from a supremacy, a white supremacy.
They're in a church praising white supremacy.
They're entitled because they're white.
I mean, if I go to church, I'm supposed to be comfortable.
That's not entitlement.
That's my right here in the United States of America.
But you say it's white supremacy and that they are entitled?
Man, that is crazy.
And they think that this country was built for them, that it is a Christian country when actually we left England because we wanted religious freedom.
It's religious freedom, but only if you're a Christian and only if you're a white male, pretty much.
And so you said that.
Absolutely, 100%.
But it's an intimidation tactic.
Intimidation tactic.
Busted up inside of a church.
Y'all wasn't trying to intimidate nobody.
This hurts is intimidating people.
These people are crazy.
That is crazy talk.
They live in an alternate reality.
Yeah, they do.
Intimidate.
That black gay dude said it was an intimidation tactic.
Being asked to leave.
Why are you so like soft and sensitive?
Then you got a white woman agreeing with everything he's saying.
Yeah, but I never understood this about, well, I ain't going to even say it.
They're like gay men and they're like soft and sensitive.
You got a dude just packing you and you still just sensitive.
Yeah, you should be like tough.
You should be tough.
Yeah.
I said, I don't understand how I become the face of it when I was a journalist.
I do understand that I'm the biggest name there.
You're the biggest name because everybody knows you for being a loser.
You got fired from CNN.
You couldn't even last at CNN.
With a teleprompter.
You suck.
You're horrible.
You had a dream job.
And you couldn't even do that right.
And I'm also, as I was on with my producers this morning, you know, you and Kylie talk all the time.
My producers were saying, I said, how did I become the face of this?
And my producer said, Don, you're a gay black man in America.
That has absolutely nothing to do with it.
You're part of it of people walking in, disturbing worship in a church.
That's why you're the face of it.
Yeah, you have facial recognition.
You know how much of an idiot you are.
Yeah, you being a black gay man, nobody cares about what you do in your bedroom, Don.
I mean, sure, we crack jokes about it, but nobody cares.
We care about your behavior.
That's wrong with y'all did.
Y'all don't have the freedom to just walk in a church and ridicule people about your politics.
Yeah, I think he thinks he's entitled.
He says the people with that church is entitled.
He thinks he is entitled because he's black and gay in this country.
Accountability for Entitlement 00:01:26
And he should have the right to do what he did.
But he called them entitled.
Yeah, a lot of these people, they're just projecting.
That is a bunch of nonsense came out of that man's mouth.
Those people's in there worshiping white Christian supremacy.
And they're entitled and they're using threatening tactics to make them be in fear of them.
He needs to go to jail.
The other white guy that TikToker, they both need to go to jail.
Well, yeah, the TikToker, he needs to go to jail, but that's heaven for Don.
Yeah.
He get all the mushroom tip he wants in there.
Yeah.
That'd be heaven for Don.
But if our administration don't do nothing to either one of these two, I'm just dumb.
Then at that point, I will say, you know what?
You got to hold these people accountable.
You do.
Y'all just been, I mean, nobody's been arrested since Trump's been in office.
They're just blowing a lot of smoke, a lot of smoky mirrors.
Trump has accomplished a lot of things, gas prices.
You know, he closed down the southern border.
He's enforcing the immigration law.
People need to start going to jail or this behavior is going to continue.
Right.
Crime is way down.
Yeah, he's doing a great job.
But man, I don't see anybody in handcuffs.
Look what they did to all the January 6th.
Look what they did to Trump.
Look at all the people they persecuted around Trump.
Nobody's feeling that same pain.
And if these people walk free and nothing happens to them, the Trump administration is all talk.
Well we'll see what happens.
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