Keith and Alexis Black dissect a Gold's Gym confrontation where Tish allegedly harassed Black, who identifies as a trans woman on hormone therapy since February. While Black argues for shared facilities and blames patriarchal systems, the host challenges her lack of full transition and accuses her of fear-mongering against Tish, who was reportedly ejected. The discussion highlights deep cultural divides regarding gender identity in public spaces, questioning whether current policies adequately balance inclusion with safety for all gym-goers. [Automatically generated summary]
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Confronting Trans Women in Locker Rooms00:12:42
Well, joining us now is one of the people that Tish says she confronted in the locker room.
Her name is Alexis Black and she's joining us now.
Alexis, welcome to Team Z.
So for this interview, he put on some lipstick.
Yeah, he's got some makeup on.
Man, come on.
Team Z Live.
Hi.
Hey, Alexis.
So we spoke with Tish, and she said when she came face to face with you, it was obvious to her you were a man.
So, you know, I don't want to get terribly graphic here, but can you kind of explain, you know, how you appeared?
You know, do you believe that she was reading something in that you didn't appear to be male?
She perceived you to be such.
Consequently, well, first, I told the people that raised me that this is the way that I was when I was eight years old.
And really, I stuffed it down pretty deep.
And I began using hormones this year in February.
And I actually relinquished that information to her about, you know, name change.
And it says female on my ID and hormones.
And I mean, I'm registered as a female with the gym.
So.
And we're oh, that logic is crazy.
Man, just because you're taking hormones doesn't change your biological sex.
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Were you at that moment?
Because she told us about a couple of different encounters.
Were you fully clothed at that moment?
Well, she has become aggressive with me on four different occasions, actually at different locations in Los Angeles at Gold's Gym.
But I believe I was enrobed in a towel on one occasion.
And this last time I was closed the entire time.
This is a stupid conversation.
You're still a dude.
Yeah.
You shouldn't be in the women's restroom.
I mean, women's locker room.
And from what she expressed, she said he was fully nude.
Fully nude.
Just walking around in a women's locker room.
Fully nude.
Yeah.
And women don't have a chest like this.
Yeah.
Okay.
You know, again, I apologize if this is too graphic, but I just think it's important.
You apologize to him because this is too graphic.
Hey, man, you know what's crazy about these two guys?
They're like twins, but one's white and the other one's black.
Aren't they crazy?
I never noticed that.
You got a white version and a black version.
The black version is taller.
Let's speak truth, baby.
Okay.
Have you fully transitioned?
Be clearer when you say that.
You're genitalia.
That is a process that requires quite lengthy work.
Like for instance, I sat in a chair and had hair follicles removed from my face for two hours yesterday in a process called electrolysis.
In order to have that surgery down there, one must have every single hair done that.
And in order to do that, it would take like, would you say like a year or two to have that done?
That's literally not even a possibility with where I am in my transition.
So let's, so look, from her perspective, I'm just wondering if you see her perspective.
She's saying that she's looking at you, say, in a towel, and you still have male genitalia.
And, you know, you may be transitioning, but could you understand her being uncomfortable?
Yeah.
Can you?
I certainly do not understand it, but I do get the notion of the fear-mongering that she's perpetuating.
She's fear-mongering.
The truth in the moment is far from what she is purporting it to be.
Literally every time that she's done that, I've had women in the locker room comforting me because of how aggressive she was towards me.
Wow.
It is California.
Women.
And the reason why this went as far as it went is because of woke women.
And this is California.
So they have embraced it.
Yeah.
Everybody's looking at the black woman like she's crazy.
Actually, the sub-Saharan female is the same one.
Yeah.
And they kicked her out of the gym.
Yeah.
Kicked her out.
It's crazy, man.
California is crazy.
So we have seen video of that confrontation.
It's weird that it's laughing because that woman, I think she's a victim of violence from a man.
Right.
But he's laughing.
Outside of the locker room between yourself and Tish.
And at the end of it, I saw that, Alexis, you walked back into the women's Alexis, which means his real name is Alex.
Locker room.
But I understand that you also have had your membership revoked by Gold's.
What did they say to you?
Good.
Well, initially, they said that she and I, I guess Tish is her name.
Correct.
Initially, they said we were in the same boat.
But I mean, Gold's, it's been bought by EOS now.
So they phoned me and they I'm not sure if it's written in red ink or what, but it's definitely being evaluated.
I love that place.
Gold's is like my sanctuary, especially at the Beverly Center.
Catch me there.
I love that.
Yeah, women don't have veins popping out of their neck when they're having a conversation either.
Well, you know, he's trying to turn this interview into a granda advertisement.
You know what he said?
What did he say?
Did you hear what he just said?
He's pretty much telling all the guys where they can find him.
I didn't catch that.
I was thinking, why go back?
Watch this.
It's too graphic, but I just think it's important.
Have you?
Let's speak truth, baby.
Okay.
Have you fully transitioned?
Be clearer when you say that.
Your genitalia.
I wonder if that way too far.
That is a process that requires quite lengthy work.
Like, for instance, I sat in a chair and had hair follicles removed from my face for two hours yesterday in a process called electrolysis.
In order to walk back into the women's locker room.
But I understand that you also have had your membership revoked by Gold's.
What did they say to you?
Well, initially, they said that she and I, I guess Tish is her name.
Correct.
Initially, they said we were in the same boat.
But I mean, Gold's, it's been bought by EOS now.
So they phoned me and they I'm not sure if it's written in red ink or what, but it's definitely being evaluated.
I love that place.
Gold's is like my sanctuary, especially at the Beverly Center.
Catch me there.
I love that place.
So she was saying, why don't they have a third bathroom?
Especially the gym you're talking about at the Beverly Center.
That's been recently built.
And they had a layout that they could have adjusted and they could have put a third locker room in.
Do you think that would have been appropriate?
Or do you feel like you are entitled to use the women's locker room just as Tish's?
Good question.
You know, that's a great question.
I'm glad that she said it, that you have put it on the air.
And the answer is that would necessitate two different ones because some people trans MTF.
Some people go FTM.
No, it just be a trans bathroom because you people don't care about what's between your legs.
Yeah.
Just call it the trans bathroom.
Trans women and trans men can use that one bathroom.
Because look, coach, obviously, y'all don't care about gender.
See, this is the thing.
I knew that I knew I knew whatever this, whatever you want to call this.
They use these bathrooms to validate their beliefs that they're a woman, legitimize them.
Yeah.
And it reaffirms their delusion.
I understand you're being trans, but you still have to accept and acknowledge reality that you are a biological male.
You could call yourself trans, live your life, but you still have to acknowledge the fact that you're still a man.
Yeah.
And so that's, that's two rooms right there.
You're not going to a trans woman with a trans man just because we're trans.
That seems like a whole new envelope of discrimination.
But but yeah, it's just like I feel like this had to happen in order for people to learn about trans.
It's like it's it's a thing.
We're here.
We're going anywhere.
We've been here for thousands of years.
There's like 10 species of animals on earth that do this too.
Just by the way, everybody.
And so he's spitting out all the trans talking points.
He said there's other animals, 10,000 species that have trans.
Yeah.
So it says trans bears?
No, no.
That's trans dogs?
Yeah, what he's saying is that there's gay animals in the wild.
Like you'll see two male dogs like company each other.
That's all she.
But that's like apples, the oranges.
It's like they just piss and defecate anywhere.
Like the trans bathroom will fix the problem because you have transgender women who are biological males and then you have trans men who are biological female.
Y'all just go to that bathroom because you're going to the bathroom with a with biological women and the trans man is using the bathroom with biological men.
Even though you're still a biological male, have a trans bathroom.
It fixes everything.
But about the bathroom, am I entitled to it?
I know that I'm a woman.
Should they have built another one to necessitate building this room?
People would have to have the level of comfortability within themselves that I do.
Not everyone possesses this much self-feminine power.
It just, it doesn't happen.
Not in this patriarchal system of which we've been living for so long.
Okay.
All right.
Alexis, we appreciate you joining us.
Like, I think both these men are like progressive liberals, but even it's written all over their face.
They got trans fatigue.
Yeah, that would fix the problem.
That would absolutely fix.
No, it would create another problem because they won't use that.
You're going to go into the...
You know what, Keith?
Women's bathroom.
They went from trans woman all the way to, I'm just a biological woman.
Yeah.
Because you can't give these people an itch.
They'll take a mile on you.
We let them have the trans woman.
We let them have the driver's license.
We let them get married.
We let them, some people be nice with the pronouns.