Hodgetwins dissect the Epstein list controversy, highlighting Pam Bondi's conflicting claims about its existence and Donald Trump's 2002 praise of Epstein as a "terrific guy." They analyze passenger logs suggesting powerful figures, including politicians and actors, were involved in a potential Mossad blackmail operation, while noting that releasing this classified data could dismantle careers like Bill Clinton's. Ultimately, the segment argues that the administration's deception regarding the list has shattered public trust, revealing a deep state cover-up protecting world leaders rather than simple criminal negligence. [Automatically generated summary]
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Money Behind The Island Rings00:08:16
Involved more so than politicians possibly.
It's money.
It's tons of money involved in these rings, which is why I absolutely support anyone that still continues to push on this.
I'm not looking to the Trump administration for any information on this.
I want the actual facts of the case, and I will support anything that involves digging deeper.
I guess I guess the reason that I'm a little confused about this is because there's, you know, this is fracturing his base.
He is in charge of telling the attorney general, listen, why don't you just release this list?
Pam Bondi said that the list was on her desk.
A lot of people in the administration have indicated that there is a list.
Now, all of a sudden, there is no list.
And then all of a sudden, Trump says to his reporters, what's going on with my Truth Social?
What's going on with my boys?
And in some cases, gals.
We have a perfect administration, the talk of the world, and selfish people are trying to hurt it all over a guy who never dies, Jeffrey Epstein.
So now he's calling his supporters selfish.
He's trying to make this go away.
Yet, in 2002, he told New York Magazine, I've known Jeff for 15 years.
He's a terrific guy.
He's a lot of fun to be with.
It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do.
And many of them are on the younger side.
I think I was taken out of context.
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Well, that quote didn't age well.
Of course not.
He's a pedophile.
He was running a pedophile ring.
But to some of the things that, well, what's the blonde lady's name?
I keep hearing that.
Just call her her head.
Yeah, she said, I'm not looking to the Trump administration for anything new about this.
I was like, come on.
Joe Biden, this happened all while Biden was in office.
He did absolutely nothing.
So if you're not going to look to the Trump administration, who are you going to look to?
And as far as Sonny Hostin said his fraction is based, I don't think his fraction is based because the majority of people on the right are not one issue voters.
Like, I'm pissed off about the whole Epstein debacle, right?
Phase one and all that bullcrap, right?
But I'm still a Trump supporter.
I still support the Republican Party.
Yeah, hell, right?
So he said that.
And then he also, and then also what Pam Bombi didn't release because it's already been released, Trump's name is on the logs, the passenger logs of Epstein's aircraft at least seven times.
That's already been made public.
I mean, a yeah, that's nuts.
Well, Bill still got him beat 26 times.
Well, Kevin, just because it was on the plane doesn't mean it went to the island.
If I'm getting on that plane, I'm going to the island.
What else could he go?
He went to that damn island.
Yeah, but anybody on that plane, Keith, went to that island.
Yeah, if Bob was on the plane seven times, Maggie would go after him.
You're right.
But if Trump's on the plane on the flight log seven times, he's obviously got a good excuse.
Yeah.
Obviously, he's going there to investigate what's going on.
Yeah, but just because he was on the flight log doesn't mean he went to the island.
Yeah, there's plenty of other actors.
I forget it was a long list.
He was giving his plane out to a bunch of people.
Yeah, yeah.
Hollywood actors.
It was a lot of people.
Yeah, he was trying to get information on people.
Yeah, he was actually working for Massad for intelligence, trying to get blackmail on politicians and actors close to politicians to blackmail them.
Right, right.
So that's why everybody was on the plane.
But everybody, but there was some sickles on the plane, too.
Right, right.
But everybody say, everybody's saying that's a conspiracy theory.
Of course, Trump is denying any null allegations, but all of that information is out there.
Why not just put it to rest and say, release the list?
Because when Felicia did do that, when they said we've looked and there's nothing there, they didn't believe it.
Nobody wanted to believe it.
They said, no, that's why when we get in, we're going to release them.
Well, you got in there and there wasn't anything there that nobody knew.
He's saying there's no list.
I don't believe that.
I'm not saying there's a list of everybody that attended that, but you have phone numbers.
There's records of people flying in and out.
Like, of course, if there's a list of people on the flight, of course, there'd be a list of people who actually went to the island.
Yeah.
When I think of the list, I don't think of a black book or Rolodex or some computer file.
I'm talking about the actual evidence, people linked to the island.
That information should be made public.
Right.
That's when I think of a list.
Right.
Even if there was an actual list, you still think that list is around?
Yeah.
Of course not.
So really, they're lying by omission.
There's no actual list, which is true, but there's evidence leaking a lot of people, politicians and actors and powerful people to the island in that ring.
And it's just one person in jail for that.
And it's a woman.
Yeah, that's crazy.
That's nuts.
Everybody knew what was already there because that's the information list.
I don't think that's a good question.
You know, there's no, I don't believe there's a list.
I don't.
See?
Yeah, of course there's no, there's no journal right there.
Everybody came in there and busted nuts, right?
There's no journal of that.
But there's evidence leaking people to what was going on at the island.
Yeah.
That's the list that what we're talking about.
And I did not know, but that list, it's all this is classified information.
Why is this classified?
Yeah.
That's like saying the list to a massage parlor.
Oh, that's classified.
Yeah.
Why is it class?
Why is that list classified?
Yeah.
Because politicians and powerful people out there, there is a list.
Yeah.
It is.
It just is.
Like Trump made.
Look, Trump built his base going after the deep state.
You can't beat the deep state.
You can, but some heads are going to roll.
Man, I guarantee if that list came out, people will lose their life.
I guarantee you.
Maybe not the head politicians, but people in their family.
People lose their careers, too.
Yeah.
That's why the list is not coming out.
There'd be a great reset if that list came out.
A great reset.
Yeah.
A lot of actors will get banned, get canceled.
A lot of politicians will get impeached or resigned or arrested.
Don't believe there's a list.
I do think that lots of people have been on that plane.
Lots of people have been on Jeffrey Epstein's plane.
There is no, from what I've read, there is no indication that they were ever on and at the island.
Not Jeffrey, but all the people in the flight logs.
It doesn't say these people were flown to the island.
It just says they were on the plane.
So what.
The flight logs should show who's on the plane and where the plane went.
Yeah.
Seems like to me she's covered.
She is.
She's definitely covered up.
Like Bill Clinton.
Goldberg.
Goldberg.
That's Jewish.
Hey, hey, Bill Clinton, they said he was on the flight logs 26 times.
And there's a picture of him inside of his house.
Of course, if you're on that flight, you're going to one place.
And let's not forget, he had cameras all throughout that house, those houses on that island, and all that stuff is not made public.
Of that stuff is classified because they're covering for government officials.
They're covering for world leaders.
Not only are they covering for world leaders, they're covering two main world leaders, the United States, and I think Israel.
Yeah, and for her to say there's no list, yeah, per se, there's no list, but that's all this evidence who were clients of Epstein.
Covering For World Leaders00:02:15
That's what we want.
Yeah, she's running cuff.
Yeah, and their linebacker mission, of course, there's no journal diary.
Yeah, who in the year 20.
Well, when did this happen?
Over the last like 10 years, what 2010 to 2025 or whatever?
Whatever the dates are.
Ain't nobody keeping a list.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, there may be a list to blackmail people, but that's been done away with.
Yeah.
It's been destroyed.
Right.
We're seeing, you know, they're saying, well, now it's Hillary and Obama.
Now they put the list out.
Yeah.
You know, they should just say, listen, this is what it is.
And there's no bare list.
By the way, I do, I do have a mouse.
Well, but Pam Bonnie said came out with phase one.
Yeah, what's the problem?
Why would she lie to her base like that?
Yeah, why would she bring those social media influencers and just use them and degrade them like that?
I mean, you make those people look very bad.
Well, she they degraded themselves.
Yeah.
Because they wanted to be a part of something they felt was big and huge, you know?
Well, there's nothing wrong with that.
They was lied to.
Yeah.
They're victims too.
Yeah.
That would require them admitting that they've lied.
That they lie.
Well, exactly.
So they're saying, yeah, Trump administration used that lie for votes.
That's what they're saying.
They already knew there was no list, but they used it to gain votes.
But it is what it is.
They ran on that.
They're not following through on it.
That's why everybody's so upset because people have figured out that they may be lying about this.
Well, then, when you say, when the base sees that Pam Bondi, who they believe in, a lot of people don't believe in her.
A lot of people didn't believe in her before she even became the Attorney General.
They really don't believe in her now.
Especially you pull that damn bond of that phase one crap.
That phase one crap.
Like there's more to come.
Suddenly says, well, no, there is nothing there.
They're like, well, wait a minute.
Wait, you said because we put our belief in you.
And once that crack begins, other cracks start showing.
The trust in the government.
I just want to mention that after Epstein's arrest, Trump said, I wasn't a fan.
Something Behind Epstein00:01:30
I had a falling out with him a long time ago.
Yeah.
Oh, she's covering for herself because she said all the other stuff in the beginning out of context.
Right.
So she's covering herself.
Somebody says, hey, you need to say this, you stupid.
You're going to get sued when he says.
She's smart.
She's catching on, though.
Yeah.
Yeah, this whole Epstein thing.
I'm like, I'm over it.
But the deep state, you're never going to beat the deep state.
Never.
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree.
Because both sides are supporting the deep state.
Each side has its own tactics.
Yeah.
Deep state wins again.
Just think about it.
That dude supposedly was running a pedophile ring.
Look what they did to Kobe.
Not Kobe.
Look what they did to P. Diddy.
Look what they did to Bill Cosby.
Look what they did to what's the other guy?
Weinstein?
Yeah.
Yeah.
But for some odd reason, nobody wants to touch this.
Why is that?
Nobody touched Hugh Heffner neither.
He made a lifestyle out of it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
He did.
Something's behind this Epstein.
Something very huge.
This information is classified.
And why are documents classified?
To protect the government's interest and to ensure the security of America.