Joe Rogan and Bernie Sanders clash over campaign finance, with Rogan citing Elon Musk's $270 million donation versus Kamala Harris's $1.5 billion spend to critique the Supreme Court's unlimited spending ruling. Their debate intensifies on climate change; while Sanders highlights record warmth and China's pollution, Rogan dismisses current efforts as naive control mechanisms, citing a Washington Post analysis of 485 million years of cooling trends. Ultimately, they expose deep ideological divides regarding scientific consensus, energy reliability, and whether environmental policies serve genuine sustainability or merely expand government surveillance and social control. [Automatically generated summary]
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Money Buys Constitutional Rights00:09:06
What it says is you're a billionaire.
You have now the constitutional right because your money is your freedom of expression, right?
So you don't like Bernie Sanders?
You can put millions or hundreds of millions of dollars into a campaign and express your view about how terrible Bernie Sanders is.
And you can buy that election, right?
That's your constitutional right.
I think that's probably the worst decision that the Supreme Court has ever made.
So what is the result of that decision?
The result of that decision, let's take us to where we are today, is that Elon Musk, and I know Elon was on your show.
He's here at Austin, huh?
Yeah.
Okay.
And we could talk about Elon, but he spent $270 million to elect Trump as president.
Okay.
I think that's absurd, that any one person...
What's the most someone donated towards the Harris campaign?
They spent a lot of money on Harris's.
They spent $1.5 billion to over the course of a couple of months.
You got it.
All right, let me talk about it.
So I'm not here just to say it's a Republican.
That's my point to you.
Right.
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And it'd win.
Yeah, but anyway, that's not buying an election.
That's hyperbolic when he says stuff like that.
Buy an election.
No, you donate money towards the candidate that you are hoping to win that election.
That's not buying an election.
What did he say?
Oh, I was going to get to that.
Both sides take advantage of this.
That's my point.
Well, if that was your point, why didn't you lead with that?
Kamala Harris got this and this amount of money.
You didn't lead with that.
You live with Elon Musk.
Rogan called you out on it.
And then you tried to save face.
What's up with your hair, by the way?
Hey, man.
You're on the most popular podcast.
You're on there looking like a mad scientist.
Hey, Keith, when you get to his age, you don't care what you look like.
You don't give a damn.
Anyway, then he brings up climate change.
Joe gets him again.
This is why politicians don't go on his show.
Yeah, climate change is real, but I think it's very naive and ignorant to think you can do something about it.
You can't stop the climate from changing.
Yeah, what you're saying is the climate's always been changing.
It used to be covered in ice.
Yeah.
I mean, there's warming and cooling periods throughout history.
The temperature has never been stable.
That's normal.
Yeah.
But they're monetizing it.
But anyway, a lot of money off of it.
But anyway, Bernie Sanders brings up climate change, and then Joe Rogan literally rips his nuts off.
Just castrated him.
This is why politicians, this is why Kamala didn't go on his podcast.
Because he would have ripped.
Yeah.
He wouldn't have ripped the nuts off, but he would have just ripped her damn head off.
And check this out.
Biggest speech.
You look, you got to deal with this climate change issue.
And I know that, you know, there are some people who think climate change is a hoax.
It ain't a hoax.
I think the last.
It's a hoax the way y'all spending it.
The climate's always been changing.
Climate change is real, but the reason why they're spending...
The reason why the left is pushing it because it's a lot of people making a lot of money off of it.
A lot of money.
Last 10 years have been the warmest on record.
And we can create millions of good paying jobs, transforming our energy system away from fossil fuel to energy efficiency, to solar, to wind.
To solar?
It's going to create a bunch of jobs.
To wind?
Is that energy source reliable?
What if the wind stops blowing?
Yeah, what jobs are you creating?
Yeah.
They never say that.
Yeah.
Well, you're going to be a bunch of turbine engineers.
They actually say that those windmills and all that other stuff is actually more detrimental to the climate.
Right, right.
Wind and other sustainable energies.
I think the climate change issue is very complicated.
That is not sustainable energy.
A damn windmill?
What if the wind stops blowing?
Solar?
What if the sun's not up?
That is not cloudy.
Yeah, yeah.
That's not a good reliable source.
He's saying it's reliable.
It's not.
Yeah, yeah.
10 years have been the warmest on record, and we can create millions of good paying jobs transforming our energy system away from fossil fuel to energy efficiency, the solar, the wind, and other sustainable energies.
I think the climate change issue is very complicated.
And I think, did you see the Washington Post piece that they wrote where they did this long-term view?
First of all, the reality is that the Earth's temperature has never been static, right?
We both agree on that.
It's always been up and down.
There's been ice ages and heat waves.
And then the Washington Post looked at it.
What was the time period that they looked at?
That essentially they found that we're in a cooling period.
That the Earth over the past X amount of years, and this was like a very inconvenient discovery, but they had to report the data and kudos to them for doing that.
Scientists have captured the Earth's climate change of the last 485 million years.
Here's a surprising place we stand now.
So look at the far end of that graph and you see we're in a cooling period.
Well, I'm not sure.
I didn't read that article, but the scientists who are out there, I think.
I know, but there's a lot of money involved in that too, Bernie.
That's part of the problem.
There's a lot of money involved in this whole climate change emergency issue, and there's a lot of control.
And that's a big part of this problem.
Not only that, if we're just talking about primarily carbon and carbon footprint, what are we going to do about China?
Because China, China is like, what percentage of...
They are the major polluter right now in terms of carbon.
This dude just seized up, just locked up.
Dude, just seized up, locked up.
Her looking crazy.
Just seized up.
Who sits like this?
Hey, Keith, would you calm down?
That dude looks nuts.
Where's his neck at?
Dude, they got no neck action.
Look, you see how crazy I look?
Like I'm riding a damn dirt bike or something.
But you ride the Harlem.
We're number two.
We used to be one.
They're number one right now.
I think they have an enormous percent of global.
I think it's very high.
It's very high.
It's not an American issue.
It is a global issue.
And all I can tell you is that we are, in my view, going to see more extreme weather disturbances in the That's just like a personal opinion.
Spearmonger.
I mean, there's always been extreme weather incidents throughout history.
He said he calls them weather disturbances.
Yeah, but we've always had these hurricanes anomalies every year.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
In the coming years than we have ever.
And we're seeing them right now.
We just want to stop it real quick.
Now, you know, we always had tornadoes, hurricanes.
I don't see nothing out of the ordinary.
Now, if you see a damn tornado with 500 mile-per-hour winds and it's just sitting over Texas for like three weeks and it's 10 miles wide.
Yeah, and you'd be like, wait a minute, this has never happened.
Hey, we had a F, not an F5, but an F100, a tornado that formed in Arkansas and it covered up Florida, Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Georgia.
It's like, wait a minute.
I've never seen a tornado this size before, and it stood there for two days.
Then you can say, wait a minute.
Now, those are weather disturbances that we've never seen before.
Yeah, it doesn't have to be that extreme, though.
Kept pointing out.
But we've always had a lot of time.
It's like severe weather.
Yeah, I know.
We've always had F5s.
We haven't seen the F10 yet.
Right?
Like tornadoes, the categories.
What are these?
F1 to F5.
Yeah, when you see an F20 hurricane, like some F20 hurricane, that's just for tornadoes.
Well, what's the category for a hurricane?
I think it's, I don't know, it's a scale.
Let's just say.
What if, you know, the eye of a hurricane, right?
Right.
What if the eye of the hurricane is big as two states?
Right?
Yeah.
You can say, wait a minute, this is climate change.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
And the maximum sustained winds is 300 miles an hour.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I say that.
But we're not saying anything out of the ordinary when it comes to the weather.
They're just sharing opinions to fearmonger and create money and gain power.
That's Joe Rogan's point.
And I'm going to...
Capitalizing on Climate Confusion00:01:20
Let it finish.
Let me play it.
Shut up.
And I'm thinking he gets a lot of money from environmentalists.
Of course.
Yeah.
I think he has confirmation bias.
But scientists don't agree.
Well, this is where it gets confusing.
Because scientists that are in agreement, there's all these entanglements.
Whenever someone's discussing something, whether it's economics or whether it's health issues or pharmaceutical drugs, there's financial entanglements.
I think we both agree with that, right?
And I think this is part of the issue with this whole climate change emergency as well, because it's not just that we could all agree pollution is a major factor.
It's a huge issue in the world today.
We could all agree with that, right?
I think one of the things that we have to recognize is that there's, whenever there's an issue that everyone can agree on, you're going to have a bunch of people that capitalize on that issue and they look to gain more money.
They have financial issues that they push forward in order to capitalize on this issue.
But then also power and control.
These things like they're trying to institute in the UK where they have these 15-minute cities, this concept where you're not allowed to travel.