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May 10, 2022 - Hodgetwins
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Officers Charged In Quandry Sanders Shooting

Hodgetwins dissect the Quandry Sanders shooting, where two officers faced first-degree manslaughter charges after firing 12 shots at a compliant man holding a lunch bag. Analyzing body cam footage, they question why officers ordered Sanders out despite an active protection order and domestic violence history, criticizing the barbaric act of handcuffing him while dying. While debating whether race influenced the outcome and comparing the event to Rodney King, the hosts condemn the lethal force yet maintain general support for law enforcement, noting the officers were fired following the incident. [Automatically generated summary]

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Hey, so we're going to talk about this police event.
It's a serious topic.
Yeah.
Police involved shooting.
The two officers that was involved in the shooting, both of them was charged with first-degree manslaughter.
And y'all about to see why.
Yeah.
These are the two officers.
Yeah.
Give me some context, man.
Yeah.
Do what lead up to it.
Actually, one of the officers was black.
So I don't think race was an issue, but...
Well, you never know, man.
You can be, from what I heard, you can be black and a white supremacist.
That's what they call us.
They say we're the black face of white supremacy.
So who knows?
It's the first time for everything.
I doubt it.
Hey, but sis, let me get just to give y'all some context.
Yeah.
It's this guy named Quangry Sanders.
Yeah, Quandry.
And he had a...
It was like they got the idea of that name from the name Landry.
Just put a Q in front of it.
Yeah, he's got a unique name.
Quangry.
I kind of like Quandry.
I like Landry better.
Yeah.
It's a good American name.
Yeah, but if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it.
That's all I'm saying.
Now, like, my name's Kevin.
A lot of people say Devin.
Devin's cool.
Yeah, Devin's cool.
Yeah.
But sometimes people do too much.
They put like Mark 11.
I mean, yeah, that's a perfect name.
Kevin and put an L in front of you.
Yeah, Levin?
Kevin?
Yeah.
Sometimes they put it.
What if somebody come out there and put a pH in front of me?
Hey, Pevin.
Doing too much.
Right?
Yeah.
So, but anyway, just to give y'all some context, this Quangry, he is, I guess his...
Was this his girlfriend?
Yeah, I think it's his girl.
Well, it used to be his ex.
Yeah, but he was like beating her ass, running, and he had an order of protection against him.
Yeah.
Because you know, a woman, eventually, you know, someone's beating your ass.
You're like, I'm tired of this shit.
I'm going down to the police station.
I'm getting an order of protection.
I'm tired of getting my ass beat.
Yeah, the dude would beat her ass and run.
And he's got some violent fences for guns.
I don't know if he's got violent fences for guns.
Yeah, he's got some.
The cops were under the impression that he had a gun.
Oh, he had prize offenses for guns.
You verified that.
That's what Officer Tatum did.
I'm just going by what he said.
I don't think he said that.
No, I think he said it.
I don't.
I don't.
I watched the video three times.
What are you calling me a liar?
I just told you I watched Officer Tatum's video.
Yeah.
He's an ex-cop, man.
I listen to him.
Yeah.
Get his opinion, man, because his opinion is very valuable.
That dude used to be a cop.
Yeah.
But he said it himself in the video.
He's biased because he's a cop because he knows how tough the job is.
Anybody be biased if he run into a bunch of niggas every day.
I mean, who's that going to be biased?
You go work in the hood for about 30 days.
You're going to hate every black person you come across.
It'll make you racist.
Well, that's the hood.
That's what cops be at.
The hood.
Yeah, the hood.
Y'all seen boys in the hood.
Yeah.
Imagine having to deal with that shit every day.
And you a cop.
Nine to five.
And you're white.
You first thing in the morning, you give you nice hearty breakfast, some bacon, some eggs, some toast.
Take your break and eat your donuts and you smoke coffee.
And you deal with that shit every day?
Yeah, that's not.
That's ain't enough money in the world to put.
There ain't enough money in the world to force me to put myself in that hostile situation every day.
That's why we support the men and women in blue, man, because I know y'all's job is hard.
Yeah.
It takes a strong man, takes a strong woman to be a police officer.
Especially nowadays, you know.
All right, but anyway, so Quangra was back over there and I guess she was hostage, but she was being held hostage.
So that's...
I don't know if she's being held hostage because the video I'm about to...
Well, she came out the house with her hands up.
If you're a hostage, I wouldn't let you walk out of the house.
Some ain't adding up.
You know how women lie all the time.
Yeah, I'm just...
Just from my personal experiences, you can't trust every woman.
Yeah.
Women lie their ass off.
Like my ex-man said, I didn't pay child support.
Thank God I kept my receipt.
I'm in mouse with you, Keith, with his ex-wife.
His wife beat his ass.
Then called the cops on him and said he was beating her ass.
That was funny.
Cops get there.
You all scratched up.
She ain't there got a scratch on her.
You can't believe all women.
That's all I'm saying.
That's why I didn't go to jail.
I don't hit no woman.
Most I do to a woman out.
Shake the hell out your ass.
Shake some sense in your ass.
I mean, my ex hit me with a whip.
Oh, man, that shit hurt.
What a, what's she doing?
She had this little toy, and you would pull it.
It's like a dog, and you'll pull it, go, roof, She turned it into a whip.
She turned it off and said, you black bastard.
Bam.
I picked that woman.
I picked that woman up by her shoulders.
I tell you what, feet was not on the floor.
I started shaking her.
Don't you ever do that again?
You bitch.
Do you know how bad that shit hurt?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Hey, man.
Do I like a damn slave to you?
Hey, stupid bitch.
That shit hurt, man.
Oh, my God.
Hey, can we talk about what happened?
All right.
So, I mean.
So just lay down the foundation.
So he was dying.
He wasn't supposed to be that.
He's breaking the order of protection.
Yeah, so the cops are there.
But supposedly, his girlfriend is hostage.
Yeah, that's a dangerous situation.
Especially if you got prize for, you know, guns.
Yeah.
And I think the cops were under the impression that he had a gun.
I never saw a gun.
That's why you don't believe all women, man.
Women be making.
That's all that shit up.
How you know it's a woman that said it?
Well, after this video, somebody called the cops.
Well, why do you think it's a woman?
I don't know.
She's the hostage, right?
Anyway, man, this shit ain't funny, man.
This dude lost.
No, we ain't laughing at what happened.
Yeah.
We laughing at the camera.
Well, you know how stupid liberals are.
They twist things and said we was laughing about it.
Yeah, ain't nobody.
We ain't laughing about it.
Nothing funny about somebody losing his life, especially after what you see here.
I think this shit is on the level of Rodney King, but you just throw a gun in it.
That's the way I see this.
Yeah, oh, this is 10 times worse than Rodney King.
Rodney King lived.
But this guy, I mean, I mean, he wasn't an upstanding citizen.
He wasn't the Pope.
Yeah, but and because of that, some people think he got what he deserved.
I personally, I don't feel that way.
I think he's still a human being.
Yeah.
But that's just me.
I mean, the only person you treat like this is like, I would say, Osama bin Laden.
I mean, you shoot first and ask questions later.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, I don't give a shit about that guy.
Yeah, exactly.
He got what he deserved.
Yeah, but anyway, so here's the video.
Paul's, first of all, if the cops ordered me out the house, I'm not coming outside with nothing in my hands.
Yeah.
I mean, seriously.
Why?
It's like you.
I ain't gonna say that.
Well, that's not you.
People are different.
People have got their own way of doing things, you know.
I know somebody's saying, come out the house and put your hands up.
I'm not coming out.
Did he drink from something?
I don't know.
Replay it.
Let's see.
Can you?
I think he drunk something like.
You think he had a 40 or something?
I don't know what the hell he had.
He's got something in his hands.
Yeah, I don't know why you would come out.
And you see that, man.
All right, go ahead.
Yeah, before we hold up.
Before we, this video start that we're showing you, they actually gave him orders to come out of the house on the intercom.
I think his girlfriend came out first.
Yeah.
First.
But they have been telling him, hey, come outside, show your hands.
But he walks out and he's, I don't know what he's holding.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Stop it real quick.
I don't know why you would shoot a man if you don't see a gun.
Well, he thought he had a gun.
He thought.
I didn't hear him say gun.
I didn't hear him say gun neither.
That's good.
He just started shooting him.
Replay it again.
Replay that part again?
Yeah, replay it again.
Oh, we're going to kill.
What's this?
Instant replay?
Yeah, I'm just saying.
Okay, stop.
Why don't you shoot a man holding a bag lunch?
Well, he probably thinks it's a bunch of bags.
He's probably got a sandwich in that bag.
That's about it.
He probably thinks it's a gun.
In a bag?
Yeah.
Who the hell walks around with a brown bag with a gun in it?
It wasn't brown.
It was white.
It was like a plastic bag or something.
Well, you got to think the lights are bright.
I'm thinking that's ain't no such thing as a white bag.
I seen brown bags.
Remember, mama used to sit in school?
That's all kinds of bags.
You ever go to Target?
They got white bags.
What are you talking about?
I'm just saying brown bags, man.
More often than not, the damn bag is brown.
Who gives a shit?
He walks outside with a damn bag lunch and he gets shot.
Okay, let's pick it.
Let's pick it up from the top.
Okay, that's crazy as hell.
You say hands four times.
Hands.
And hands.
And when he raises his hands, what do you do?
Shoot him?
I mean, you just told the man to show him, show his hands.
And he said it four times.
And I didn't see a gun.
Yeah.
I saw a bag, maybe a bag lunch.
A bag lunch.
It looked like a bag lunch to me.
Yeah, I don't.
Honestly, I don't see why you shot the first time, but you might have thought he had a gun.
This second time?
Yeah.
That's crazy as hell what I just saw.
Last time, I...
He follows your order that time.
Unless you think black hands are a lethal weapon from 12 feet away.
But I think he thought he had a gun.
No, he's shooting at this man like he's a damn T-100, like he's a T-1000.
I mean, damn, you think the man is made out of liquid metal?
You think he's hunting down John Connor or something?
I mean, I would.
I don't know if I've ever been a cop, but I'm not going to shoot a man holding a bag lunch.
And then I'm going to scream hands, hands, hands four times.
And then when you show his hands, you shoot him.
All right, keep playing.
God damn, you're stationed.
Stay down.
All right, um, I ain't trying to see that shit again.
No, they saying, did you notice when they're saying hands?
They're both screaming different shit.
Hands, hands, stop reaching, hands, hands, hands, stop reach.
You know how scary that must have been?
I mean, especially for getting shot for holding a bag lunch.
Hey, uh, let me say something.
Go ahead and say it.
You gonna say something?
No, I got no response for that.
That was.
Let's look at it one more time.
Maybe we're being too tough on the cops.
Do you want to say that again?
No, you got to, man.
Stay down.
Roll over.
Roll over on your stomach.
I can't believe.
I don't really say this.
He shot him like 12 times.
Okay, I got him.
Keep it in mind.
I think there's four cops there.
You go ahead.
Go ahead.
We're going to pull him back.
Go ahead.
Hit the door.
Get the door.
I got him.
Okay.
I'll pull him out of the yard.
Yep.
Put him out of the yard.
Go ahead, go ahead, man.
Put him out, Galilee.
That's crazy as hell.
I got cops.
And now you cuss him.
He's shot 12 times.
They hang puffing.
Well, I guess they think he has a gun.
I don't see a gun.
I've seen a bag in it.
Yep, I got him.
Hey, stop it right there.
Seriously, if I'm in that house, yeah, I'm not fucking coming outside.
Yeah, I'm locking myself in the bathroom.
You just shot a man with a damn bag lunch.
That look like a bag to me.
Yeah, look like a bag.
How would that come out of that house?
Why He Got Charged 00:04:58
Yeah.
By fact, I think you might kill me in my bathroom.
I ain't coming out.
You just shot an unarmed black man with a bag lunch 12 times.
You gonna tell me to come out of the house?
I mean, the hell I am.
I'm going in the bathroom.
You're gonna shoot my ass in the shower.
That's what you're gonna do.
Matter of fact, I might cut that damn shower on.
Maybe you're like, okay, he's naked to shower.
He doesn't have a gun.
You know what I'm saying?
Cut the damn shower and take all your clothes off.
Hey, ain't got nothing but a dick right here.
Keep in mind, it was four.
What?
I think it was four police officers out there with guns.
Shoot an unarmed man with a bag lunch.
Yeah, now, again, this guy's no saint, but man, seriously, you can't treat people as now.
If he had a gun, oh, by all means, have that dude doing the bullet dance.
Yeah, but he didn't.
The information that was relayed to the cops that it was a possible hostage situation, he had a gun.
Well, I mean, if that was true, why would a man just walk outside with a bag in his hand?
I mean, sometimes as a police officer, you do got to realize the information you might get over the phone might be wrong or incorrect.
I mean, that's what appeared to me.
I mean, someone nonchalantly coming to the house with a bag is holding somebody hostage.
But it's easy for me to say that I wasn't there.
I wasn't.
Yeah.
I mean, it's easy for us to sit here and, yeah.
What do they call it, what we're doing?
Monday morning quarterback.
That's what they call it in sports.
Oh, he should have threw it over the middle or he would have first down.
I mean, but still.
I've been looking at it from straight from the cop's viewpoint, from the body camp.
There's a well-lit area.
I never saw, there was four cops there.
Only two of them shot.
I never saw a situation where he should have.
Personally, I wouldn't have shot.
Yeah.
Is it okay to shoot somebody because you think he has a gun?
Or is it okay to shoot somebody when you know they have a gun?
Well, I've seen quite an amount of cases where you go to court and a cop says, oh, I thought he had a gun.
He had a gun?
Oh, okay.
Why the hell are we here?
Case dismissed.
I mean, that gets him off a lot, but that shit right there, that was...
Yeah.
Man, that was crazy as hell.
He says hands.
He puts his hands up.
Yeah.
I mean, the dude actually, I don't know if y'all heard it, but he actually apologized as he's dying.
Yeah.
He apologized to the cops.
Yeah, later.
Yeah.
I mean, you could, I think we was talking over him, but man, that was.
So you can see why he got charged.
The two cops got charged with first degree, man.
I support the men in blue, but man, if you're that scared of people, you shouldn't be a cop.
If you're going to give somebody a command to show your hands, and then when they show you their hands, you shoot them four times, you shouldn't be a police officer.
Well, he did, yeah.
Now, this same police officer was involved in another shooting, I think, like six or seven months prior.
Yeah.
But from what we saw, from the body cam footage, it was a justified shooting.
Yeah, it was totally justified.
Yeah.
I'm thinking maybe they put this cop back out on the street too fast after that shooting because a normal police officer shouldn't be reacting like this.
Yeah, that's true.
You know, I understand.
But he's been fired.
Him and his black cop friend.
Yeah.
This is a black cop and a white cop.
Just, yeah.
Yeah.
If you ask me, I think it's unjustified.
Yeah, but I mean, we don't go around shooting people because you think they got a gun.
Yeah, but I read the comments when we do videos like this.
Yeah.
I mean, because you guys realize we support the blue, but you got to realize they're not fucking perfect.
Yeah.
They're not.
There's some crazy some bitches out there.
Yeah.
And not saying that this cop is, but what I just saw, that was batshit crazy.
Yeah.
You don't shoot people.
You do not shoot people for following your commands.
And that's what you did.
You shot a man.
You said hands four or five times and you shoot him 10 or 12 times and then you tell him to roll over and stop reaching.
And then after that, you handcuff him.
I'm like, I will never understand that.
A man's got 12 holes in him.
You handcuff him.
And he's laying on his chest.
And you saw the pool of blood underneath him.
Yeah.
I mean, we're going to censor that out.
But yeah, to lay him on his chest and his hand.
He's funny.
I do believe in these are the way the officers are trained.
So I understand you still got to protect yourself, even though you lit them up.
No, I don't think officers are trained to shoot somebody when you say hands, hands, four times.
No, I'm talking about if you shoot them.
Yeah.
I hate saying them when they handcuff them.
Once y'all check him for weapons, then when you see he doesn't have no weapons, you don't have to handcuff a dying man.
It looks barbaric to me personally.
I mean, some to our fans, no, he had a hand.
You can just imagine.
I mean, that's what I feel like when I say it is just barbaric.
You don't care about human life or anything.
No, they gave him first aid.
Handcuff and bleeding all the time.
Well, at least they could have dude, shot him 12 times.
Yeah.
Supporting Men In Blue 00:01:03
But anyway.
Yeah, we still support the men in blue, but Not this.
This is, they, they, uh, I don't, if you ask me, I think this is much more than first-degree manslaughter.
This is second-degree murder, my book.
Yeah.
You know?
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