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Nate Vance On Starlink 00:14:54
matt tardio
All right, ladies and gentlemen, my name is Matt Tardio and I'm filling in this morning for Breanna Morello.
And thank you guys for joining me over here on American Journal.
We got some huge stories that are coming up for you guys, not just in this hour, but also when Brianna gets on the show, guess what?
She's going to be bringing on Rudy Giuliani.
You guys aren't going to want to miss that in the third hour of the show.
And the first hour coming up for you guys, I'm bringing on a special guest, my friend, Nate Vance.
We're going to be going over all things overseas and how it actually pertains to the United States.
With everything that's going on over inside of Minneapolis, I think that a lot of Americans are losing sight that the United States may very well be getting ready to bomb Oran over inside of Jordan.
We've moved into three squadrons of F-15 fighter jets.
We've moved aerial defense assets over into Israel and into the Middle East.
Rumors of upwards of 25,000 U.S. troops have gone into Iraq.
Now, with all of that being said, I don't think it's just about Iran.
Neither does Nate.
We actually think that it has to do with Russia.
We think it has to do with China and why they're meddling inside of the United States.
You guys see silver prices that are skyrocketing right now.
Yesterday they reached all the way up to what, $118 an ounce, I think, for spot price before they ended up going down.
Yeah, China's behind a lot of that.
And we're going to talk about why today for you guys as well.
Going into the second half, I'm also bringing on another special guest.
Her name is Angela Rose.
Angela was actually an insider over inside of Minneapolis.
She was hanging out with Cam Higby and she was hanging out with Nick Sortor.
And she managed to infiltrate her way into one of those leftist extremist organizations over in Minneapolis.
And you're not going to believe some of the stuff that she actually has to say.
This is going to make one great show.
I promise you guys, you're not going to want to miss it.
You're going to most certainly want to stick around.
Now, before we get into all that, I want to tell you guys that I got a tip off from a friend.
His name is Corey Gouro over in California.
He runs something that's called the GOAT Initiative.
And Corey put this image out on social media the other day, but it was very, very blurred out.
So I reached out to him because what Corey said is that the Mexican military had actually made its way into the United States of America.
And when I reached out to Corey, I said, Corey, brother, I can't see a dang thing on this photo.
You got to give me something more.
This man sent me videos.
This man sent me photographs.
And beyond any doubt in my mind, we had armed Mexican military on U.S. soil last week.
And it was the same day that the FBI wanted to make sure that they announced the arrest of their top 10 fugitive over inside of Mexico.
You know, the major drug cartel that used to be an Olympic athlete.
Yeah.
Well, the same day that happened, for some reason, people dressed in Mexican uniforms ended up walking over into the United States of America.
Crazy part about this is that it wasn't just the Mexican military just doing this on their own.
From what I have heard, it sounds like a customs and border patrol supervisor actually approved this madness coming over into the United States of America.
Now, ladies and gentlemen, these guys were armed.
And we're talking a platoon-sized element.
For any of you guys that are not familiar with the military, a platoon-sized element, you're talking maybe upwards of 30 people walking on U.S. soil.
And they weren't just walking on U.S. soil.
They were on private property.
They were shaking door handles and they were looking inside.
Now, if the rumors are true that CBP actually approved the Mexican military to come on U.S. soil, I got some major questions.
What would have happened if they would have ended up shooting an American citizen?
And by the way, there was no federal officers that were present when all of this was going on.
No, they just let them wander onto U.S. soil.
Now, reached out, and I spoke with Brianna about this this morning.
She's reaching over to DHS to try to get a statement from them on the matter to validate it.
We're going to see if they own up to it.
And if they don't own up to it, well, I think they're going to have some problems on their hands because, again, photographic and video evidence.
Armed Mexican troops, U.S. soil, approved by U.S. Customs and Border Patrol.
That, ladies and gentlemen, is a problem.
I can't even begin to tell you how disgusting that is.
You know, we're talking about insurrections here in the United States.
We're talking about possibly going to war with Iran.
We're talking about all of these other things.
Now, before you even think to question Corey on this, you got to understand, Corey has testified before Congress about the issues that he has down at the border.
He's found cell phones with Chinese intelligence on them, telling them to recruit people, recruit people to spy on U.S. naval stations, things of that nature.
He's had Tulsi Gabbard come bismill.
He's had Joe Kent come bismill.
Tons and tons of people.
Ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, stick around for this next hour.
You're not going to want to miss it.
I got Nate Vance coming up for you next.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to American Journal.
I am your host for this morning, Matt Tardio.
And like I said before, Brianna, she's going to be back here in just a little bit.
You're going to catch her at the top of the hour coming in with special guests like Ruby Giuliani coming at you.
Now, this hour, I've got two great guests that are coming up for you.
I've got Nate Vance and I've got Angelo Rose.
Nate Vance is going to be joining me here in just a sec.
And we're going to be talking about Iran.
We're going to be talking about Russia and we're going to be talking about China and how all of that ties in and why we might be going to war with Iran in the very near future.
And it's not going to look anything like the 12-day war.
The U.S. military is stockpiling themselves over inside of the Middle East.
We've got three squadrons of F-15s, three over inside of Jordan.
We've got, you know, what do you want to call them?
Aircraft carriers that are moving in over outside of Iran as we speak.
Earlier this month, Donald Trump said, hey, the United States, we're locked and loaded and ready to go if you continue to kill your civilians.
Now, our government would like you to believe that this is about Iran killing their people.
That's what the government wants you to think.
Donald Trump, he came out earlier this month and stated that if they carry through with some of these executions that were going to take place during the uprisings over there, that, well, the United States is going to be forced to respond.
We're going to have to do something about it.
He also came out and he said that he spoke with Iran and he's very pleased because they're not going to be killing any more of their people.
Meanwhile, what actually happened is Iran ends up shutting off the internet and the entire country goes dark.
Elon Musk tried to fix it by throwing in Starlink and having Starlink work well.
Then they went and they cut off Starlink and the people couldn't even get Starlink connection.
As a matter of fact, anybody over inside of Iran that ended up getting caught with Starlink was being tried as spies.
The IRGC has taken over hospitals and the new death toll that I'm being told is upwards of 50,000 dead.
Over inside the media, we're talking about maybe 10 to 20,000 that the IRGC has killed.
You've got Shia militias that are flowing in from Iraq that are going in and working side by side with the IRGC.
Yesterday, Joe Kent was over inside of Iraq.
One of the things that Joe Kent spoke with the Iraqis about was peaceful transfers of ISIS detainees going into Iraq from the Syrian control.
We won't even talk about why the administration decided it'd be a good idea to work side by side with al-Jolani, a former al-Qaeda terrorist.
Used to be great friends with this guy.
He would go by the name of Al-Baghdadi.
Trump talked famously about killing him.
He was the former leader of ISIS.
Yeah, him and Jalani, the leader of Syria, they used to be good, good friends.
Well, now they're allegedly turning over ISIS fighters to U.S. forces or Iraqi forces, not sure which one.
And Joe was busy over inside of Iraq making sure that the Shia militias were being disbanded because they're going into Iran and killing everybody.
But what does this have to do with the United States?
Very good question.
When we start taking a look at Venezuela, we have huge questions.
Why did the United States decide to go after Venezuela?
Well, Venezuela and their drug running, right?
That's what we were told.
We have Maduro.
We have cocaine flowing between Colombia and we have cocaine flowing out of Colombia and into Venezuela.
But Venezuela isn't even in the top five countries that ship drugs into the United States of America.
Not even the top five.
So what were we doing over there?
Well, we started to figure it out when we noticed that the boats that the U.S. started interdicting, which by the way, we decided to say that we're going after them due to oil sanctions because of some deal gone bad decades ago and the U.S. is going to recoup its oil, right?
Because we don't have enough oil.
We've got record low oil prices and everything else, which is insane to me.
Well, one of those boats that the U.S. tried to interdict, known as the Bella One, actually took off running before the U.S. could get to it.
And the U.S. Coast Guard chased it all across the ocean until it got pretty much north of the UK.
And then Russia decided it'd be a good idea to dispatch a nuclear sub after it.
Ends up not hitting the mainstream media.
Nobody really cared about it.
We interdicted the vessel.
But why did Russia send a nuclear sub after the Bella One in order to protect it?
Why did the Bella One reflag itself to a Russian vessel after it flicked its transponder off and popped off the radar?
Nobody knew where it was at, minus the Coast Guard that was trailing it.
And then the big question, why did the U.S. send our tier one tactical units to go and take over that boat?
And that's not a mistake.
And no, I'm not, I'm not randomly stating that.
Yeah, we sent our top tier military personnel to go and raid that vessel and take over an oil tanker that was being guarded by a Russian nuclear submarine.
Well, we ended up getting the answer maybe a week ago.
We had over three tons of gold that were found on that boat.
Three tons of gold aboard that.
And who is the oil tanker being operated by?
The IRGC, the Iranian, a forward terror organization designated by the United States of America and Canada.
And now others over in the EU are also looking at it, wondering whether or not they're going to designate them as an FTO.
Well, what's the IRGC got to do with all this?
Well, the IRGC has been funneling oil from Venezuela up to China.
And we want to know, why does China play into this?
Well, again, I referenced the silver spot price yesterday that reached $118 an ounce before it went down to, I think, the low 100s.
And then the last I checked before I went live on air, it ended up jumping up to 112 an ounce.
I mean, it's huge.
It just continues to climb.
Over in Shanghai, the silver price is trading at $130 plus dollars an ounce.
Comex is rumored to be ridiculously low.
And within the next month, it could be reaching critical levels.
And that's a problem.
We have failure on deliveries.
All of a sudden, we have a failure in the U.S. dollar.
Everybody loses faith in it.
Back in November, India tried to corner the market for the LBMA.
They ended up demanding delivery from the LBMA and drained the entire default for the LBMA of silver.
Now, India is a bricks nation.
China has been working very closely with Russia, obviously, with their war in Ukraine.
Russia has a big, big problem when it comes to getting their monetary value out of their oil because of the amount of sanctions that the U.S. ended up leveraging on it.
In order to get money, which by the way, their oil exports account for 30% of their GDP.
30% of their GDP goes from Russia's oil exports and the U.S. slapped sanctions all over it.
You guys remember the first signal gate?
Not the signal gate that we're talking about right now, but the very, very first signal gate that came out during the first couple months of the Trump admin when the U.S. had multiple aircraft carriers over in the Red Sea and were bombing the crap out of Yemen.
I want to say it was Vice President Vance, which I can't wait for Nate to get it here.
I want to say it was Vice President Vance that actually made the statement that I hope the EU knows that we're bailing them out again.
Now, why would he say that?
Well, because the Houthis are controlled by the IRGC.
The Houthis are the ones that currently run Yemen.
They are a foreign terror organization designated by the United States of America, and they've been attacking merchant vessels over in the Red Sea for quite some time.
Because of that, the U.S. decided it'd be a good idea to go and bomb the crap out of them.
Everyone wanted to point their fingers and go, oh, but Israel, but Israel.
Well, Israel can handle a couple of drones and a ballistic missile or two shot by the Houthis.
But what the EU and what the entire world can't stand is our trade being disrupted by the Houthis, which is what Iran was doing.
By using the Houthis over in the Red Sea, the U.S. went over and we started bombing them so that we could reopen it.
If we reopen the Red Sea, we reestablish international trade.
Now, what I'm talking about here is nothing but a war that's been raging behind the scenes between the United States, Russia, China, and the big intermediary in this entire deal has been Oran.
And right now, the United States has a very convenient excuse to go in and bomb Iran.
They're killing their own people.
Well, Iran's been washing money for China, it would seem, and they're certainly doing business with Russia, seeing as how they felt like sending over a nuclear sub to guard three tons worth of gold.
I mean, that's insane to me, the amount of gold that was on that vessel.
And the United States sends our tip of the spear after.
So everybody in America is looking saying, why are we getting involved in another war over in the Middle East?
Well, because for the last decade plus, well, I'd actually say the better part of two decades, underneath all of this democratic rule here in the United States of America with the Democrats running wild.
We've got assumptions of Joe Biden and his son doing business with China and Russia can't forget all of that.
It would certainly seem like the U.S. has been played a fool.
All of our exports are being sent, you know, overseas.
And if we need stuff, we're going to end up getting it back from somewhere.
Well, China decided that they were going to have massive export restrictions on silver starting on January 1st.
Last year, United States government decided to list silver as a critical mineral.
A month after that, a month after November, December, China decided to make the announcement that it was going to be sanctioning 27 U.S. defense industry companies, companies like Lockheed Martin.
You think they're going to get any silver?
You know what silver is really important to?
It's really important to things like data centers.
It's really important to our infrastructure here in the United States, but it's also extremely, extremely critical to the defense industry.
The defense industry.
You need it for fighter jets.
You need it for guidance systems.
You need it for all of those little microprocessors, all sorts of things that we use.
There's no substitute for silver right now.
And China is hoarding it while the U.S. is dwindling in its supply.
And China right now is paying over $20 an ounce in the United States.
Who do you think they're going to sell that to?
And do you think the banks that are holding onto the hoards of it here in the United States, you think any of these banks are going to give it up at the current price?
No, they're going to hold on to it.
They're going to hold on to it so that they can drive the price higher, unless the United States government steps in and forces them to do it.
But that can only last so long.
We've been in a supply deficit for the last five years, and China knows this, and they've been playing the game.
They've been playing the game hard.
And they've been able to wash the money.
Nigerian Threats and Nuclear Concerns 00:11:25
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They've been able to do all sorts of dirty things to the United States simply by using Iran.
And Russia, well, Russia has benefited vastly from Iran.
Russia has been able to, how do I want to say this, supply 30% of the aerial munitions that were flying across the Russian border into Ukraine were drones being supplied by Iran for the first couple of years of the war.
In return, Russia decided it would be a good idea to give them nuclear scientists to work on their uranium enrichment projects.
You guys remember the 12-day war in June of last year?
All the way back then, and we're wondering, why aren't we just going in and bombing them?
We had the United States screaming, screaming, these guys have enriched uranium.
Up to 87%, according to the IAEA, the International Atomic Energy Agency.
Up to 87%.
That is an insane number.
You don't need it for that.
Anything over 20, I mean, medical, maybe you can get 20 out of 60% is the widely cited number, but no, the IEA actually cited and said that they found two undisclosed locations that Iran did not, did not disclose to them outside of Tehran, where they found trace elements of up to 87% enriched uranium.
That's nuts.
And then the U.S. held off forever.
Why did we hold off forever?
Well, we needed some help from Russia, most likely.
If Iran was going to give up their enriched uranium, then we would need somebody to go in and remove it.
The IRGC is not going to let the United States of America do it.
Why would they?
No, they need somebody that they've been working with that's also qualifying to do these things.
And who better than Russia?
Because they have scientists on the ground already and they've been working with them and Iran and Russia trust each other for the most part.
Well, we held off on striking for the longest time.
Why would we hold off on striking?
Well, because Russia had over 100 scientists on the ground over inside of Iran.
That's absolutely troubling.
We had to get them.
We had to allow them to have time to move their scientists off those nuclear sites because if we would have bombed Russian scientists over inside of Iran, we would have potentially started World War III and pissed Russia off even more, which then brings up Greenland.
United States decided it would be a great idea.
The Trump admin has been scrambling to get a hold of Greenland.
Why?
Well, we now have the answer, the Golden Dome.
According to the Trump administration, we need it.
And they're not wrong.
Greenland sits right in between the United States and Russia, like North American Russia.
If you were to draw a line on a globe going between Russia and the United States, Greenland would fall pretty much right in the middle of it.
So we're worried about their ICBM threat.
We had a wide open back door to Russia this entire time underneath the Biden administration where Russia could have came and attacked the United States and we would have been extremely vulnerable, extremely vulnerable to the Russian ICBM threat.
In order to counter that, in order to fix it, well, we got to put some assets over inside of Greenland.
Why?
Why is Russia so pissed off at the United States?
And I think the answer is Russia is looking at doing everything they can in order to cripple the U.S. dollar and China is playing them.
I think China's actually behind this entire deal, personally.
I believe it's China.
And so, in my opinion, we have a huge problem here.
We have two other world superpowers.
We have Russia and we have China that are working with a country that's a foreign terror organization.
Like the entire IRGC is labeled as a foreign terror organization.
What's worse is they're led by the Ayatollah.
The IRGC answers directly to the Ayatollah.
And if we want to fix the situation over in Iran, and by the way, the actual Iranian people, they're claiming that less than 30% of the country is actually even Muslim.
They've been burning mosques over inside of the country.
Over the last weekend, rumors came out that Iran was gassing its own people, gassing, like Saddam Hussein did with the Kurds.
I don't even want to know what those numbers are.
And still, the U.S. hasn't intervened yet.
Why?
The Aatollah said that he ended up moving a bunch of the enriched uranium because we had to let the Russian scientists move.
Leadership of Iran said that they moved a bunch of the enriched uranium and we didn't bury crap when we dropped our 30,000 pound bombs on Furdo.
You know, the bombs that the U.S. was working on for like 20 plus years to make sure that we actually were capable of destroying that target.
A lot of people don't even know that.
Those 30,000 pound bombs that we dropped on Iran, they were specifically designed for that target.
We conducted over 100 test strikes using those bombs just to narrow it in.
That's how much the U.S. hated Furdo.
And we bombed the crap out of it.
And then Iran says, well, you guys took too long and we moved a bunch of our enriched uranium.
Kind of a problem.
Well, in order to solve this, we would have to get rid of the IRGC.
We would have to cripple the regime.
And right now, there's a massive uprising.
And it seems like a good time for the United States to go in and strike the regime.
But there's one problem, one big problem.
And the problem is the Ayatollah is also one of two religious leaders for the Shia or the Shiite Muslims, if you will.
They don't account for the vast majority of Muslims.
Sunnis do.
They believe it's somewhere around 80% of all Muslims are Sunni, but still 20%, Shia.
And their leader, the Ayatollah community.
And if we end up killing him, we kill a religious figure, a huge religious figure, massive religious figure.
You want to see radical Islam come together?
Check out the Ayatollah.
So what are we going to do?
I think the United States is in kind of a little bit of a pickle here.
And I think the Ayatollah's religious status is protecting him from U.S. strikes.
Before you say that the United States isn't under direct threat from Russia, I'd refer you guys over to a DHS report from last year.
In this DHS report from last year, the United States said that it had thwarted several potential lethal terrorist attacks on U.S. soil that were going to be originating from Iran, of all places.
And then we look at things like Donald Trump's assassination attempts, the gentleman down in Florida that showed up at Mar-a-Lago and hid in the bushes several hours before Trump was supposed to be there.
How did he know?
How did he know to be in that very specific location?
I got told that they were sitting over dinner and discussing it over dinner the night before.
And that's when they decided to go and play golf the next day around 9 p.m. at night, somewhere around there.
And then four hours later, this guy decides to sneak his butt into the woods outside Mar-a-Lago.
I don't think so.
To me, that sounds like foreign intelligence actually was controlling somebody and helping them out, whether it be Russia, whether it be Iran, whether it be China.
That's pretty freaking wild to me.
And yes, we do have issues with Iran over here in the United States.
Holding before me a summary of issues.
You know, we were talking about going into Nigeria and bombing Nigeria earlier this year.
And we did, allegedly, ended up taking out some bad terrorists over there.
But all of the footage that ended up coming out of that didn't really look like we hit anything but some open fields and maybe some weapons cachets.
And then I've seen this report.
And again, from the Formal Line Influence Center, Russia influence contributed to Nigeria's decision to force withdrawal of U.S. troops.
In 2024, Nigeria compelled the withdrawal of U.S. troops from the Central African country.
How are they doing it?
Well, they're doing it through online influence and things of that nature, basically forcing the United States government to pull its troops out of there, which is really sad.
Another one, Chinese social media adopted fake American personas to promote protests against rare earth processing facilities in Texas and Oklahoma.
Remember how I told you that the United States is kind of in a bit of a pickle when it comes to silver?
It's in a bit of a pickle when it comes to these critical minerals.
Well, guess what's over inside of Nigeria?
I hope I'm not the only one that knows this.
Over inside of Nigeria, you end up having the largest lithium deposit in Africa.
Largest lithium deposit in Africa.
And wouldn't you know it, the United States, a United States-based company, tried to run a bid on that in order to get all of the lithium out of there because we need control over these critical minerals.
You need lithium for several different things.
Guess what company it was?
Elon Musk.
Elon Musk put a bid in on it and they turned him down.
But do you know whose offer they actually accepted?
Well, they happened to accept China's offer.
So China now controls it.
And by the way, you know, the Trump administration says that we had great communication with them and we were working with them the entire time for those terrorist strikes over there.
That's what they said.
I'm pretty sure they failed to mention that the United States is pretty much cut off from them from now on.
No U.S. citizens are allowed to travel over there.
The last I checked.
That's a bit of a problem.
If we had such great communication and we were helping them out and taking out all these terrorists, well, why?
And by the way, when we're talking about people being massacred and murdered inside over there, I believe, you know, we were complaining about Christians being massacred.
Well, why just there?
Why not over inside of Syria where we had Alawites being massacred by the Jolani regime?
Doesn't make much sense.
But when you start looking at the critical minerals over inside of Nigeria, all of a sudden we have a very eye-opening subject.
Did that tell you that the Department of War ended up investing almost $3 billion the other week into a brand new smelter in the United States?
Yeah, they teamed up with a very large bank.
Department of War is going to maintain 40% of that smelter.
It's the first one to open up in the United States in decades.
The best of my research, I've been able to find.
So behind the scenes on everything, we have Trump going in and removing Maduro because Maduro, you know, he's a narco-terrorist.
I'm sure it had nothing to do with his affiliations with Russia and moving gold and moving oil.
I'm sure it had nothing to do with the IRGC.
I'm sure it has nothing to do with cutting any of that out.
I'm sure the massive critical mineral deposits that are inside of that country, and it's got nothing to do with that.
Do you guys know that China ended up lending Maduro a metric buttload of money while Maduro was in office?
They ended up lending him all this money.
Maduro was paying it back with oil exports.
And who's moving the oil?
Iran.
So we want to hurt China because China is hurting us economically.
What do we do?
We cut China out of the Western hemisphere and we end up making sure that they can't get paid back for all of that money that they ended up sending to Maduro.
How did we do that?
We end up sanctioning the oil by some decades-old deal gone bad.
That's what we do.
And then we start getting a hold of all these ships.
Oh, by the way, I totally forgot to tell you this.
That same ship that had tons of Russian gold on it, allegedly Russian gold on it, that same ship, guess what else it had?
It had new guidance packages and weapons components.
There's someone being told that were being moved into Venezuela.
Months ago, China was circling around Taiwan.
Transfer Controversies 00:15:47
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Ready to take it?
They wanted to take it bad.
They had massive military drills, almost cut it off.
Well, allegedly, the IRGC was moving weapons into Venezuela so that they could attack the lower half of the United States of America.
That also was reported to me to be on that ship.
That's insane.
Why do we not have anybody coming out?
We all hear about Russia Gate, but how come nobody talks about Iran gate?
Listen to this other one.
Again, report coming out from the FMIC former line influence center.
Iran hacked and leaked sensitive data from the Trump campaign in 2024.
Imagine that.
So Iran's also behind that as well.
It almost seems to me like we've got some very big issues going on over here in the United States of America, and nobody wants to even bring it up.
How in the world is it that we have all of these things going on and the United States government is trying to sell this strike on Iran to you off as helping out the Iranian people who are being massacred and gassed, by the way?
We don't care about them.
I think Iran could massacre whoever they want.
I'll see you guys back in just a couple minutes when we're bringing on Angela Rose.
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Hey, everybody.
matt tardio
Welcome back to American Journal.
I am your host for the hour, Matt Tardio.
We got Brianna coming up here in the next 30 minutes, and she's got a special guest, Rudy Giuliani, coming up for you.
But this hour, I have a special guest for you.
I'm about to bring on Angela Rose.
She infilled, she infiltrated one of those leftist cult freaking groups over inside of Minnesota.
We've got SignalGate right now that's going on blowing the freaking roof on the corruption over inside of Minnesota.
And she was hanging out with Nick Sortor.
She was hanging out with Cam Higby.
She also runs a YouTube channel, which you guys can find her at Angela Rose.
She's also got an X account.
I highly suggest you guys go over and find her and follow her because she's got some really good information.
She's been digging into these folks left and right.
I don't know anybody else that could possibly infiltrate into any of these groups other than Angela.
So Angela, ma'am, welcome to the show.
It's good to have you on.
So happy able to make it.
Yeah.
angela rose
Thanks for the lovely introduction.
It's great to be here.
And I'm excited to converse.
It's important that we have these conversations because I believe that America maybe has forgotten about something that we swore to never forget about.
And now there's this whole entire network that has been created to protect this group of individuals that can pose a serious threat to our country.
So happy to have this conversation.
matt tardio
They are a serious threat to our country.
I've got this tweet I'm holding on to right here.
It went viral yesterday.
I think it's up to like 30 million views, which is insane.
And I'm going to read over the first paragraph.
And the guy says, he says, as a former special forces warrant officer with multiple rotations running counterinsurgency operations, both hunting insurgents and trying to separate them from sympathetic populations, I've seen organized resistance up close from Anbar to Hellman.
The pattern is familiar.
Spotters, cutouts, dead drops, or modern equivalents, disciplined comms, role specialization, and a willingness to absorb casualties while bleeding the stronger force slowly.
What's unfolding in Minneapolis right now isn't protest.
It's low-level insurgency infrastructure built by people who've clearly studied the playbook.
Now, again, yeah, again, as a former Greenbrier myself, I tend to agree with him with a lot of the different things that we're seeing.
Now, I think that some of the people might be not nearly as smart, which is crazy for a bunch of people with flip-flops and AKs or peasants with AKs or P-WAX as we like to call them, right?
But I don't think they're nearly as smart as them because not and not a strike against your intelligence, but you got to meet one of these special individuals while you're over there and you infiltrated the group.
And the crazy thing to me about it was everything that we've seen on TV has been this rotational security, right?
Where they're over and they're driving around.
But you talking to this lady right here, one, she seems dumb as a rock.
But two, I found it very interesting that she actually was going over static security, correct?
Like she was standing in a location and then they were blasting it out on the alert system.
Is that right?
angela rose
Yeah.
So she even told me that in the front glass area, that it's a perfect viewing area for them to stay warm and be able to watch.
So just so you guys know, here I was at the Carmel Mall, which is filled with a bunch of what appears to be shell businesses, many, many wire transfer businesses.
And Matt, you were explaining to me that some of these wire transfer businesses could potentially be sending money to affiliates of al-Qaeda.
These are the people who are responsible for doing 9-11.
And yet this woman feels the need to stand in front of this area that you're seeing right now and keep watch to make sure that the people who are running these businesses are safe in case the ice comes.
And yet the entire mall is completely empty.
matt tardio
Whoa, hold the phone.
Did you just say that this little insurrection group is guarding some of those wire transfer businesses?
angela rose
Oh, yes, of course.
And I believe that she goes and gets like her tea there because it makes her feel cultured.
Like she likes to hang out there, you know, but they also use it as a viewing area.
matt tardio
So, because people at home are not going to know what we're talking about.
You and I and Walter Kurt, we've all been talking about how some of this money is being moved around, which is through the Hawala transfer centers, right?
What we believe, right?
It's alleged, all right, what we believe.
And there was that one mosque in particular, the Al-Farouk Mosque, that was named in the Feeding Our Future scam.
And it was also named in that one article that I sent to you about the education centers, right?
That were hiring foreign teachers at like five bucks a pop and charging people thousands of dollars.
And then, you know, it's all being funneled through a nonprofit.
It's wild.
And the nonprofit, by the way, was appears to have been founded by somebody that ended up moving up into state representation past, like it's nuts.
But you mean to tell me that over inside of where you were at, that this Ice Watch group or whatever they want to call themselves, they're guarding part of the fraud.
angela rose
Well, it seems like it, because the main places where they operate or are standing stationary ready to dispatch people are areas that are of a particular interest of where there are a lot of illegal migrants or refugees or Somali businesses.
That's why they're specifically there because they know that it's a place that ICE could target or that they could be investigating these places for fraud.
And so, yeah, they're trying to protect them because of these mean stereotypes.
matt tardio
And that's a little wild considering yesterday, the information that ended up getting dropped by Cam Higbee on some of the different members of these different, you know, signal groups.
You have, you have like state representation in there that's handling a lot of these different groups, some of them that are very close to the governor, maybe a step away from the governor.
angela rose
I think it's the governor himself.
matt tardio
Wow.
angela rose
I mean, if you listen to the way that Tim Walsh speaks to these protesters and the way that Peggy Flanagan has, they are definitely encouraging this type of behavior.
So whether they're in the chat or not, Peggy Flanagan told people to put their bodies on the line.
So I believe that speaks volumes.
matt tardio
Okay.
So that's wild.
I did not expect for you to come out with that today.
I didn't see that one coming.
angela rose
I kind of thought that it was obvious.
I thought that it was obvious that where these networks are operating are in places that have the highest Muslim population in the country or like where all of these businesses are at, like Cedar Riverside, for example.
You drive down and there's a bunch of these businesses.
I mean, the place where Alex Predi was killed, he was in front of some like weird looking business.
So that's where all of this action is taking place.
And actually it fills up a large part of Minneapolis is just these strange businesses.
So that's where all of the action is happening.
It's to protect the people who own these businesses and just the entire community, you know?
matt tardio
So that speaks to corruption at like a whole new level.
And that speaks to insurrection at like a whole new level when we start talking about what's taking place over there.
Because it's one thing to have people, because that is the general American's view of what's taking place is that you have these leftists that are running around wild that are just going over there to protect illegal aliens to make sure that they get alerted when ICE shows up, right?
angela rose
Oh, yeah.
matt tardio
But the fact that they are guarding and have static security centers around some of these businesses, which might be implicated soon and the fraud scandal is nuts, especially when you start saying that we now have leadership from the state of Minnesota that's handling the dispatches and the signal groups that's sending people to these locations almost like they're protecting their very own interests.
angela rose
Yeah.
And that's what's crazy is a lot of these business owners could be legal, have legal status here in the United States.
So a lot of them came to the United States under the temporary protected status.
And then they can get a green card, hold that for five years and become a citizen.
But in order to do so, they needed to do the oath of allegiance and they need to pledge allegiance to the United States of America, like we all do every day in school and stuff.
But if they break that, then it is treason and they can be denaturalized and deported is what my understanding is.
And so even though they're citizens and they're saying like, oh, they're going to come for citizens next, if people are committing fraud, like marrying your brother, for example, that's incest.
And I'm pretty sure that that's a crime.
So that's a crime within itself, but that's also marriage fraud.
So either way, it's bad.
So Ilhan Omar could potentially be denaturalized and deported.
And so, I mean, she's in government, right?
So I guess they're all just trying to protect each other.
They must have something tied into each other that they're like trying to protect each other.
I don't know.
It's strange.
matt tardio
Well, no kidding.
No kidding.
They would be trying to protect it.
So you could be telling me that this petty guy didn't give himself up for an illegal alien, but to potentially protect a bigger chunk of the fraud that we're looking like looking into over there.
angela rose
They're told that it's what they're doing is like the best use of their time, that they're heroes, that they're protecting America from what looks exactly like Nazi Germany or something like that.
So they believe that what they're doing is just, you know, but it is just complete and utter nonsense.
They've been lied to so, so much.
And they have Tim Wilson, Peggy Flanagan, among others, encouraging them to revolt against the government, basically.
matt tardio
You have people cannon fodder.
They're cannon fodder.
They're useful idiots.
You know, this, this guy I met over inside of Portland when I was over there, really, really nice guy.
And he was pulling security for somebody.
His name, his name's Travis.
Travis ended up getting fine yesterday by somebody that said, I know your daughter and I know where she is.
unidentified
Wow.
matt tardio
And he ended up blasting it out over X.
And so when you say that like these people, everybody wants to know, like, why is it that these people are so emboldened to go out and do the things that they do?
And, you know, we've talked about having, you know, the police chief for the city of Minneapolis.
We've talked about, you know, obviously some of the language out of Tim Walz and, you know, Ellis and all of these other people that are over there, right?
Even the mayor of St. Paul, where you had that church get overran the other day, mayor of St. Paul basically said that they didn't do anything wrong.
Why?
Because they're ripping children out of school.
So why shouldn't their church services be disrupted?
Words to that effect.
angela rose
Oh, it's not a problem because they're Christian churches.
Yet a mosque can fraud their congregation.
And I guess that's fine.
It's just crazy that this is exclusively happening in Minneapolis.
We haven't seen American lives be lost because of the deportations until Minneapolis.
So why are they going so overboard to protect the Somali community specifically?
It's very bizarre to me.
It seems almost like a religious thing.
People are pointing out that in what building is it that has some type of satanic like thing written out?
Did you see that, Matt?
matt tardio
Pick one.
No, I didn't see that one.
No.
But I mean, I find it very odd, especially yesterday that we had Trump come out and say that he had a very good call with Tim Walz and that Tim Walz is about to play ball basically.
And he wants the same thing that the United States does, you know?
And this happens.
This happens the exact same day.
This happens the exact same day that Signalgate 2026 is what I'm calling it ended up dumping.
And then a little bit later, we end up discovering, you know, and Trump openly talks about it.
He's sending Tom Homan over there, you know, a guy that was praised underneath Obama that ended up getting a freaking award from Obama for over 900,000 illegals that he ended up deporting and getting out of the United States of America.
Now Tom Homan's going in there and they come out with a false narrative.
But the point being that what you just mentioned, I think, signals is something very much larger, very, very much larger.
You know, we've heard about the Bureau looking into all of the Minnesota fraud, looking into government offices, looking into government officials and how all that's tied together.
And what you just described, I think, opens it up to a brand new scale, right?
Because whenever you're looking at digging into people, whenever you're looking at doing law enforcement actions, you're always looking at like, okay, how can how can one thing lead to another?
And the best way I would bring this up, which is why people hate traffic laws, right?
Cops pull you over for having a taillight or a license plate light that's out.
And then they walk up and they go, smells like weed.
And then they can open your door and search your car, right?
And to me, this is very, very similar.
I think this might be the it smells like weed inside of your car thing that Cam ended up dumping yesterday.
And the fact that all of these other officials are out there on it, I think that it speaks volumes, especially because you have Tim Walz now suddenly wanting to play ball.
Last night, the Minnesota State Police ended up showing up on scene at the hotel riot, like quicker than anything we've ever seen.
And they actually ended up doing a really good job in arresting people.
And the question is, why weren't they doing that literally the entire time?
And I think now we have our answer now that you brought that up.
To me, that's what it sounds like.
angela rose
It seems like a lot of people are curious as to why we are in this negotiation phase with Tim Waltz.
I believe the most negotiating that we should do with him is we'll allow you to have oatmeal and some time to exercise in jail.
scott dexter
Right.
matt tardio
Yeah.
No, it's, it's always like, all right, can I get off a little bit lighter?
First, he's not going to be running for governor again.
Why We're Negotiating 00:15:16
matt tardio
Then, you know, he's, he's going to be cooperating.
Then we have the state police that are running in there.
And all of this is coming out as we're getting more and more information.
I think we're going to actually start seeing more and more people in handcuffs in the very near future because of all this.
I wanted to talk to you about something.
You were there the day that Nick Sortor had his camera stolen from him and that you were in the vehicle when it happened.
And then he ended up getting a drug down the highway or I'm sorry, not down the highway, but down the sidewalk, you know, like after this, he's like hanging, like, I don't know if he got stuck on the door handle or what, but she's like hauling butt down the sidewalk and almost killed the guy, you know, running off of him.
And you ended up sharing a video the next day that ended up showing the same lady you had before and after of like the suspect, new license plate information, amazing work, by the way.
But I had a question for you because I noticed that you have all of these people out there.
Now we have a much better insight to how these networks work.
When you first see these people that are out there, and from your information that you ended up getting from that thing over inside of the mall, how quickly is their response?
Like, how quick, how fast do they end up responding?
How coordinated is this response for these people to come out?
angela rose
So, I believe the first day that we were there, because we were there the night before, just driving around, we were looking at the businesses and this apartment complex that apparently had received $30 million in government funds.
And so, just bizarre stuff.
We were driving around that night and we began to be followed probably, I would say, around 30 minutes later.
But the next day, when we went in, we were not there for more than 10 minutes.
I mean, we went to one location that is the house of bulls because we were showing Cam It and it's like this art place.
And so, we went straight there.
And as soon as we were leaving, there was a car that had spotted us.
So, I'm guessing that on day number one, they collected our information.
And that is how on day number two, they were able to dispatch a lot quicker because the first day they didn't really notice us, but they have this like warnings of, okay, this potentially could be an ICE vehicle.
And then they mark it with like white, yellow, or red.
They put that in one of their documents.
And so, I believe that after the first day, they marked us as suspicious.
And so they dispatched like really fast on the second day.
And then because this woman laid on her horn and they have another document, a piece of the document that says, don't just honk your horn because people are used to the city car sounds.
And so this woman's laying on her horn, just making people worried and frantic that something is happening.
But yet it was just Nick driving around, but they assumed that he was ICE.
matt tardio
That is insane.
That's insane.
Okay.
So the other thing that we ended up discovering is that they end up having an entire license plate database.
Do you think that you guys, so you think that you guys got thrown in that license plate database?
Now, as we're talking about corruption and everything else that's taking place over inside of there, we obviously like it certainly appears, excuse me, not obviously, but it certainly appears that we have government officials that are that are tied into this at very, very high levels.
It would not surprise me if we have law enforcement officers that are, for lack of better terms, sympathetic to the cause that may be running these plates and letting people know whether or not they're federal vehicles or not.
Now, that's a problem for that law enforcement officer in particular, or maybe the series of them that could be doing this, because it actually puts a stamp within the system and it says this person looked at this at this date and this time.
You get special access to that.
So they'll be able to trace those people down.
Did you notice?
Well, number one, how long did it take the police to respond?
And then how was their response and their reaction to you guys?
angela rose
I mean, it's almost irrelevant at this point.
It's almost like they didn't really exist because, I mean, the car was surrounded for, I don't know, a long time before the police came.
And actually, my understanding is that the police only came because somebody else called the police and they thought that Nick was drive or dragging somebody with their car.
So they received false information and that's the reason why they actually came.
And they were not helpful.
There's videos of them telling us that we need to leave.
And so it doesn't make sense why we would need to leave when we were the victims in this situation and we didn't do anything wrong.
We were just driving around.
But Americans are not allowed in certain cities, I guess, which is crazy because these are people that want people to who come here without any documentation to be able to roam the country freely.
And yet citizens of the country are not allowed to access certain cities is absolutely insane.
So the police were telling us to leave.
And again, I'm pretty sure the reason why they got the camera back was thanks to all the users on X and people searching up their license plates, not because of the police.
Maybe it was the FBI investigation that is crazy that they had to get involved for something to be done.
matt tardio
So I saw a clip and it had Nick.
asking, I think it could have been you or it could have been Kim if you called the police.
Did one of you guys call the cops?
Because the fact that the police showed up and their first reaction, if I heard you correctly, what I'm assuming, what I'm drawing in my mind, is that when the police showed up, they accused Nick of almost killing the lady that stole his camera.
Is that right?
angela rose
My understanding is that the reason why the police came is because they thought that the red car that had dragged somebody was the car that we were in.
matt tardio
That's insane.
So the police came for that very reason.
You're like, no, no, no, no, we're actually in this car.
That lady stole my stuff.
And they're like, oh, okay, well, you guys just need to leave town.
angela rose
Yeah, exactly.
And they were kind of rude too.
I mean, it's also awkward when they ask you for the description of the person and she's was literally just covered head to toe.
I'm talking face mask, burqa, glasses on, gloves on, covered head to toe.
I mean, how are you supposed to give a description of this person?
It's almost comical.
matt tardio
Yeah, just overweight, middle-aged woman, Burqa, head to toe, black block, jihadist black block, we'll call it.
Jihadis black block.
It's freaking nuts.
Absolutely nuts.
Do you think the police are complicit in this?
angela rose
Well, it does did seem kind of like they were defending them.
They're like, they don't want to, they're just upset.
They don't want to give us any information.
They're not going to help us because these people all know each other.
And so we're standing there just like, okay, who took the camera?
Just give it back.
You know, just give it back to us.
You know, call them and tell them to give it back.
And because they're, they're like family and all connected and stuff.
And actually, it's so funny that it was tied into an autism center.
The license plates just so convenient.
And, but yeah, they were just like, you guys need to leave and basically defending them saying, oh, they're not going to help us.
So you guys just need to leave.
Just call it a loss, pretty much.
matt tardio
Well, if it's tied into an autism center, it kind of makes sense if the police are going to be protecting them, seeing how you have very high-ranking government officials that are now alleged to be controlling the dispatch of all of these other people, you know, and sending them over to protect the different businesses.
And even you outlined, you know, the one place that you infiltrated, they ended up pulling static security on some of these businesses.
So if that lady is connected to an autism center, it's to me at this point, because it's so out of control over there, it's not beyond belief that there's directives that are being pushed down from the police or to the police.
Hey, if it's involving these individuals, let it go.
Like that would not surprise me at all.
I mean, we're talking about billions.
I think the number Trump put out in Minnesota fraud was 20 billion, if I remember right.
That was the number he put 20 billion.
You know, the last high figure I remember reading was like 9 billion.
20 billion greases a lot of wheels.
That greases a buttload of wheels.
That gets you into some very serious places.
angela rose
That's almost as much as Gavin Newsom's train.
matt tardio
Did you?
Oh, Lord.
Don't get me sorry, Gavin.
Did you, did you, so sorry, that threw me for a loop.
That's a good joke.
Did you, did you, did you notice any difference in these folks that showed up versus ones that were just kind of there?
Like, did you have the more violent people that were responding, the more confrontational people that were responding versus the ones that you first encountered?
Like, does it seem like the people that are coming over the scene are immediately confrontational, or are they just kind of off the side?
angela rose
It's almost like the people that first show up are they're very reckless.
And we were talking about earlier how these people don't seem very smart.
And I feel like that's why they put kind of these women on the front lines because they just look silly and like very frantic and they don't really know how to drive properly, honestly.
Like they're backing up their car in random places and then putting it in drive and then like trying to follow us into parking lots, but just absolutely failing.
And so like they're just there to try to get the license plate number and then follow us and keep sending out information.
And then the more people that come, I'm what I'm wondering is if when all of those crowds start to show up, if they just hear the ruckus and then come outside, or if they have been instructed to do this, to swarm cars.
I mean, they totally have because that's what they do to ICE agents.
You know, they begin recording them and getting in their faces.
And those people seem to be the more violent ones, whereas those women just like try to follow you and you try to keep up, you know.
But then all the people.
matt tardio
Angela, I want to thank you for joining us.
Angela, I want to thank you for joining us.
Everybody, make sure you go follow her over on X. Make sure you go follow her YouTube channel.
Coming up next, you guys, Brianna, she's back in the house.
tim walz
We're creating a log of evidence for the future prosecution of ICE agents and officials responsible for this.
jon bowne
Tim Waltz is emboldened by what amounts to organized crime with badges and budgets.
alex falconer
We've got a couple of groups on the app Signal that we would love for you to join.
Whether or not you want to be a part of the resistance network, I fully understand that you may not be comfortable with that.
But if you see any suspicious vehicles, any traffic, if you know of anybody that is being targeted, that's being detained, we have resources immediately available.
jon bowne
Independent journalists and undercover ops have cracked open encrypted signal chats used by radical left networks to dox, stalk, harass, and straight up impede federal ICE agents during the ongoing immigration enforcement chaos in Minneapolis and St. Paul.
Cam Higbee's infiltration of these groups blew the lid off.
unidentified
This is John 612 that we are at Grand and Lake.
matt tardio
We're heading toward Irving.
unidentified
We can try and join you.
jon bowne
Signal chats are buzzing with anti-ICE operatives and local police are complicit, cooperative even, with real-time access to national databases for tracing license plates, courtesy of law enforcement insiders, as well as shift changes leaked from within departments.
tim walz
And quit referring to these people as law enforcement.
matt tardio
They are not law enforcement.
tim walz
We have law enforcement who do an incredible job.
jon bowne
Anita Smithson, dispatcher in the Ice Watch chats, Minnesota State Senate candidate, BLM supporter, indivisible Minnesota member, and a big Waltz Ilhan Omar backer.
She is allegedly using her U.S. bank risk management job for potential access to license plate databases to aid doxing.
The chats coordinate rapid response ambushes on federal officers, share real-time locations, and personal info, all while tying directly into state-level political operatives.
james okeefe
We just got this message and it says, we know that you're in Minneapolis.
You're with O'Keeffe and his crew of Nazis.
You're in a white Ford license plate.
They actually wrote the license plate down from Florida.
You have one hour to leave or you're dead.
jon bowne
Peggy Flanagan, Minnesota lieutenant governor, allegedly exposed as Flan or Flon Southside in the chats.
unidentified
Show up and use your voice.
Put your body on the line, Ace.
Put your body on the line.
jon bowne
Amanda Kohler, Tim Waltz campaign strategist and protest organizer, identified as a top administrator in the MN IceWatch signal group, training rioters in tactics like salute, A strategy straight out of the Ice Watch playbook for obstructing agents.
james okeefe
I want to move my car!
unidentified
Disabled!
I had an injury!
jon bowne
Kohler's LinkedIn brags about her ties to Monarcha, an IceWatch offshoot listed as a resource on the Minnesota government website under the office of Ombudsperson for families, no less.
John Auti, media press figure, allegedly participating in the signal groups, highlights coordination between activists and journalists to shape narratives around the protests and incidents.
matt tardio
We're not ICE.
jorge ventura
Why are you guys following us?
We're fooling them because they were following us.
jon bowne
Well, you look suspicious as speculative ties at this point keep swirling around Governor Tim Waltz himself as the alias boogie.
Broader allegations point to dozens more statehouse Senate representatives, gang members, and even media embeds in these networks.
This isn't some fringe chat.
It's allegedly a coordinated effort blending government insiders, campaign staff, and TIFA elements and media to obstruct federal operations.
These claims suggest state-level involvement in protest networks.
These are not organic protests.
They are a desperate, highly coordinated, state-level weaponized resistance protecting massive fraud.
harriet hageman
Over 80% of the Somalia households receive some form of public assistance.
unidentified
Many of them are on welfare.
harriet hageman
So your first question is, if they're on welfare, how are they getting millions of dollars to send back to the homeland?
angela rose
Number one.
harriet hageman
Number two, if they're on welfare, why do they need child care?
They're not working outside of the home.
Why would there be this number of Somalia child care centers?
jon bowne
If the feds move, we're looking at sedition-level fallout that could collapse the Minnesota DFL or Democratic Farmer Labor Party machine overnight.
John Bowne reporting for InfoWars.
Organized Protesters vs. Federal Agents 00:15:34
breanna morello
Welcome back to the American Journal.
It's a bit of a different venue for me, of course.
We are live in West Palm Beach right now.
And as many of you guys know, Texas got a little bit of snow and it's very unusual for Texas.
But we are here.
We are live and we're going to be joined by incredible guests.
Mayor Rudy Giuliani will be with us in the third hour of the program live in studio.
And do I look forward to talking to him?
Absolutely freaking lutely.
We learn so much from the mayor every time we speak to him.
So that will be a great one.
But I'm joined right now live in studio with my girl, Mel Kay.
melody krell
Hello.
breanna morello
Mel, thanks for having me.
I mean, I've been, you know, hanging around, sticking around.
This is good.
melody krell
Well, thanks for coming down to see us again.
You left not too long ago.
We've missed you.
breanna morello
Thank you.
melody krell
But we love that you're in Infowars.
So thank you.
We deal with it.
But glad to have you.
breanna morello
You know, I have to say, it's very cold today, too, here in Florida.
I didn't sign up for this.
I definitely didn't sign up for this.
Speaking of not signing up for things, though, we're going to have Jorge Venturon in just a moment.
We're going to be talking about Minneapolis in this part of the show, mainly because, folks, if you've been watching what's going on over there, it's a well-orchestrated, they'll call it a protest, but it's not a protest.
It's nothing like a protest.
These are terrorists who are taking over.
This is well-orchestrated, well-thought out, well-planned.
And how do we know this?
Well, of course, there's a new signal group chat that has been exposed thanks to the great work of Cam Higby.
But most importantly, we know this because he's also releasing some of the videos that are happening.
No, seriously, folks, you're going to want to buckle up for this one because in clip one, you're going to see how these left-wing terrorists, it's not a joke, this is really a thing.
They do healing Zoom calls before they begin their terrorist meetings and they practice this media, sorry, this like meditation music.
And someone's actually singing to it.
It's bizarre.
It's weird.
And I'm going to force you to watch it.
Take a listen.
melody krell
Oh, Ziva Zimratya.
unidentified
These tortures.
melody krell
All right.
breanna morello
If I had to live through that, I had to make you guys all go through it as well.
Sorry for the suffering, the pain, and suffering we've caused.
But folks, obviously, that's freaking insane, right?
But it's the most innocent thing in all of this.
Right now, they've been exchanging messages back and forth, planning, plotting, and we know we have the proof now.
We see that they're even doing training manuals, which is insane.
But they are a well-orchestrated group of domestic terrorists.
Now, our federal government who continues to say we're investigating, we're investigating.
Well, everything's been laid out for them.
And unfortunately, we're not really seeing much in the way of movement on this issue.
Joining us now to discuss who's been on the ground for all of this and can probably give you some better insight into it because he's dealing with these folks is Jorge Van Turro.
He's an independent journalist who just recently came back to us.
He was over in the corporate media for a little bit and now he's going back to his independent roots.
So he could do things like this, follow these groups, these riots.
And Jorge, it's an honor to have you on.
I know you're very excited to be out there and to be front and center with all of this.
I wanted to get your take on this because you've seen a lot of the violence that's unfolded over these last few days in Minneapolis.
What's happening on the ground there?
jorge ventura
Well, in the last recent days, the energy has really focused on targeting the hotels where protesters and some of the riders are thinking that ICE agents are staying.
Just two nights ago, one got really violent at the Hotel 2 Home 2 Suites by Hilton here in Minneapolis.
It was an area where protester believed federal agents were staying.
Around 9.30 Monday night, they started to target that exact location and just destroyed the lobby.
And it was just a kind of chaotic scene.
When I got there, the roads were actually blocked off by the rioters.
They had like mattresses, wooden pallets blocking the roads.
They also had individuals in their own vehicles line up and just non-stop honking, beating on like anything, like wooden pallets, using snow shovels, hammers.
You can see in that video, you know, smashing the windows, vandalism, and targeting any hotels with the federal agents.
This particular night got actually really scary because federal agents got deployed to this scene to actually use like flashbangs and tear gas to move out the huge mob there.
But one of the people in the crowd were able to throw some objects and actually hit one of the federal agents in the head.
And I believe after that moment, he was concussed.
I don't know, Brandon, if your producers could pull up the scene, but there's an image, there's a shot that I captured where the federal agent is like pleading for help.
He's like, where is a local PD?
And he was actually.
breanna morello
We actually have that soundbite, Jorge.
We could actually play that for you guys right now.
jorge ventura
We could play this.
breanna morello
Jorge, you, yeah, because you captured this.
And I wanted to give you credit because you were front and center on all of this.
And you were actually trying to ask him some questions here.
So let's take a listen to clip two.
unidentified
Oh my God.
Are you okay?
I'm fine.
joshua in georgia
Are you okay?
I'm fine.
unidentified
This is all right.
joshua in georgia
What's going on?
unidentified
Where's the local PD?
joshua in georgia
That's my portion for the press.
jorge ventura
Okay, we're talking.
joshua in georgia
Where's the local PD?
jorge ventura
What's your message to the local PD, sir?
joshua in georgia
Okay, well, Creme.
It's very chaotic.
unidentified
I'm saying the protester giving messages.
joshua in georgia
Monday message to the protesters and want you out me.
jorge ventura
Don't call me.
unidentified
Please, give me some rooms.
What?
It's moving 32.
Please put down.
I'm also a penny.
melody krell
Can I help you?
I'm fine.
unidentified
Are you sure?
I'm fine.
joshua in georgia
Sir, you're getting comments to the local PD.
mad trucker in ohio
Do you have any comments to the community, the people that want you out?
joshua in georgia
The people who are here.
breanna morello
Jorge, obviously, this is really upsetting email.
We're just talking about it.
You know, he's not the demon here.
He's not the person to blame here.
But yet, sadly, I mean, he's sitting here trying to say, where's local PD?
And we know that local PD has not been cooperative in all of this.
What actually was going on behind the scenes there?
jorge ventura
Yeah, you know, I think that that moment is so powerful because it's kind of like a microcosm of this Minneapolis story where federal agents have been essentially abandoned by local PD from the local mayor to state government.
And actually, like as soon as that video starts, the first voice you hear is actually, he's a friend of mine.
He's also reporting that night.
It's Anthony Cabasi here.
You're going to say, oh, my God, are you okay?
You can't see it too close in that shot, but he was like bleeding in his hands.
He seemed very disordered.
You saw in that video, he kind of stumbles.
And it was just kind of shocking just to see that moment on an American city.
We're talking about a federal agent here.
Eventually, they were able to clear out that area.
And then last night, another hotel was targeted, this time in Maple Grove, just outside kind of the outskirts of Minneapolis, where they believe Commander Bovina will stay.
Now, last night we saw a much stronger response from the Maple Grove local police department, but just once again, just a chaotic moment.
The whole lobby there was destroyed.
There was a moment where I was kind of standing there, just kind of looking at the madness.
And there was like a father, this child, just standing there looking very just like worried of the situation, not knowing if like if these people were going to storm that lobby and end up attacking him.
So it's getting really out of hand.
It's not just dangerous, obviously, for the federal agents, but also just for your average American who, you know, who's staying in these hotels.
So it's really turning big.
I think now it's not, I think we talked about it last time, Brady.
I think my biggest takeaway so far is just seeing how organized Minneapolis here from the activist protesters just to like your regular local person, extremely organized when it comes to just getting all the details on where these agents are staying, doxing their license plates and just putting out all that information.
And, you know, it's likely that another hotel will probably be targeted tonight, to be honest.
breanna morello
Well, Jorge, I mean, you're on the ground there and you're the one who's interacting with these folks.
By the way, if you don't follow Jorge Venturo, he's on the ground right now in Minneapolis.
Don't do just that.
He's on Axe at Venturo Report and make sure you support his work as an independent journalist because he's on the ground with the Daily Caller right now doing just that.
But Jorge, I want to get back to this because you've actually dealt with this crowd too.
They recently posted your information because you're being, your videos are going viral and it's really upsetting these left-wing terrorists.
And so they flagged you.
But I want to play this clip from James O'Keefe because James just released a little segment of his bigger story that he's going to be releasing later today.
And in it, they're actually targeting him.
They're throwing frozen water bottles at his head.
Take a listen to clip three.
unidentified
Shut the door.
Shut the fing doors.
Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa.
james okeefe
You know what the First Amendment is?
They threw a frozen ice brick at the car.
breanna morello
Yeah, and so obviously, James, they were trying to get James to show his ID.
They were actually, and you'll see it later tonight when he releases everything.
They wanted to ID him to see who he was.
Jorge, is that the kind of same things that are going on with you when you're on the ground there?
Because I saw that you posted on Twitter that they did put up your photo and they are putting out a warning about you specifically.
jorge ventura
Yeah, it's very aggressive and the tensions are high on the ground.
They're looking for just anyone who's critical of them.
And I mean, anyone that follows me know that my report is not like extreme or anything.
I just literally literally report what I'm seeing.
And, you know, part of the story is obviously them causing all this violence.
So they're targeting reporters.
And the thing is, the reason why this is important is because this also deters reporters from even following them.
So it's a very selective few that even that really get on the ground.
I have to say, what is kind of helping me out in a way and kind of giving us an advantage is that it's like sub-zero temperature.
So like all of our faces obviously are covered up and things like that.
So the good thing is I have a ton of experiences from the 2020 riots, kind of just know how crowds and these mobs work, but you always just have to be careful.
But at least, you know, speaking for myself, it's just not going to deter what we're doing.
You know, we want to kind of continue to shine a light, to show Americans what's going on here in Minneapolis.
And I think what's kind of shocking is just how long it's been going and the energy hasn't died down.
I've always kind of thought like, you know, Portland was probably the city that I experienced probably the most kind of left-wing violence with the activism in the organization.
But I have to say, Minneapolis really takes it at a whole nother level.
And there's really no signs of slowing down.
Yesterday, like I said, was like the first time I saw like a super strong response, but that was that was a Maple Grove, Maple Grove Police Department.
And now they're like, I posted this out of the local, they're letting me know that Maple Grove, you know, leads more conservatives.
Also in the outskirts of Minneapolis, but many of these hotels are being targeted are right here in downtown.
So there's, it's likely, I mean, who knows what happens if they'll try to target a hotel where Tom Holman is staying now that, you know, Holman is here in Minneapolis.
unidentified
Yeah.
breanna morello
Yeah.
Well, they need to get tougher on that issue.
Jorge Venturo, thank you for joining us.
And please be safe when you're on the ground over there because I know this is very, very scary what's going on right now.
And they're after everyone.
So please be safe and keep us posted on all things that are going on, Jorge Venturo.
Folks, give him a follow on X support good independent journalism.
He's at Venturo Report.
That's how you could find him on Twitter.
He's doing great work.
And I know it was an all-nighter for you too.
So thank you for joining me.
jorge ventura
Thank you.
Yeah, I'm just taking my coffee right here.
breanna morello
Yes, my friend, you need it.
You've earned it.
You probably earn something a little stronger than a coffee, though.
Jorge, thank you.
All right, folks.
I've got Mel Kay here in studio.
We're going to talk about this because, Mel, the signal chats are the big one, right?
We've known for a while these are all well-orchestrated riots, that this is, this isn't a protest.
The media keeps telling you, oh, it's a protest.
Protests, I always joke, and I sound like an old person when I say this, but protests don't happen after 8 p.m.
So what do you make of all of this?
Because we're seeing that there's actually a training manual that's being passed around amongst all of these people.
melody krell
They've been writing training manuals for years.
Let's be honest, it is not a coincidence that this is happening exactly where Operation George Floyd happened.
This is all, and if you've never seen the great Liz Collins, The Fall of Minneapolis, it's hard to understand what happened to Minneapolis in the wake of the George Floyd situation, including the very unfair and insane trial of Derek Chauvin and other police officers.
So when you're looking at this and you're thinking, God, why aren't the police officers stepping up?
They were all anyone that was a legit, really law enforcement person, not ideologically aligned with Waltz and Fry and Omar is gone.
So, this is what happened to a lot of places where the defund the police, no bail, no jail, all the things that came out of Black Lives Matter that didn't help Black lives at all.
In fact, made it really far worse in their communities than it was before.
This is the result of it.
And frankly, the entire operation that was the George Floyd situation took over this whole country.
It was exploited right from that same area, the same political players, the same infrastructure.
And again, we've been telling people for years about the Sunrise group and some of these other groups.
They are very well organized.
My issue is that we supposedly have the best intelligence in the world, let alone.
I think we all know about the 702 warrantless surveillance.
We know about the NSA.
I mean, there's nothing they can't, if they want, to see on your computer, on your phone, anywhere else.
Signal, I firmly believe, is totally in operation as well.
Just like, you know, they can see anything anywhere.
So to me, what I don't understand is the intelligence community not stepping in.
What did the FBI do actually at this point if this is not something that they were on top of before?
And why aren't they still defunding these people?
These are the same groups that funded Black Lives Matter and called it a peaceful protest and burnt down the entire city of Minneapolis that still really hasn't been repaired.
And again, Minneapolis is a gigantic crime scene.
They're talking about, you know, first it was 9 billion.
Now it's probably around 18 billion.
And it's the tip of the iceberg.
This is going to happen in every Democratic state.
And I don't understand because they can arrest the governors.
So why aren't they holding people accountable?
Governor Waltz should have been arrested already.
Certainly, they have tons of evidence on Ellison all the way back to George Floyd.
You know, they have a lot of stuff.
I mean, Derek Chauvin is sitting in jail.
You know, I don't think he had a fair trial.
But remember, Ellison settled with the Floyd family before they even took the cops to court.
So what we're talking about, it's been a rogue situation there.
Civil rights don't matter.
You know, Ellison and his son were very proudly open about loving Antifa.
Money Ring Trafficking 00:08:56
melody krell
Waltz has this crazy history.
And the thing we should also think about is that Eric Holder came out, of course, and said that they vetted Waltz to be the vice president of Kamala Harris because he was picked, Harold Older said yesterday to Jen Saki, because he had the infrastructure.
What infrastructure?
So to me, this is not a coincidence.
George Floyd was the operation that led to the figuring out how to do it right.
And here we have the same thing.
It implodes right in Minneapolis.
And this is supposed to be a coincidence.
breanna morello
Yeah.
melody krell
It's not.
And I'm telling you, everyone should see that clip where Eric Holder says to Jen Saki that he vetted Waltz, you know, a 30-year relationship with China, all kinds of fraud, all kinds of, you know, sketchy stuff in his background, stolen valor.
And he was the best that Holder and the Democrats could do for vice president of the United States with all these question marks.
And here we are now, and he's some kind of hero.
Thank you, Minnesota.
Thank you, Minneapolis.
Why do the people of Minnesota aren't they outraged that their taxpayer dollars for children, for elderly, for health care, for Medicaid, has been looted and laundered out of their state?
The people should be furious, but we're not seeing the people because they've been here before.
And most people that could have left this area left after the George Floyd riots and they burned down Minneapolis.
I strongly suggest people watch tonight the fall of Minneapolis to really understand that this is not new, that this Probably like COVID, I think the George Floyd operation there was a test case.
And don't forget, the George Floyd situation surrounded a giant money, like, what's it called?
They were counterfeit money ring.
unidentified
Yes.
melody krell
So, and then all the buildings involved in that money ring were burnt down.
So, a lot of evidence, I think, was destroyed after George Floyd.
So, to me, this is just a continuation of, I call it Operation George Floyd, but it's not being funded by Americans.
And that's the biggest problem.
And to me, I don't understand the FBI, NSA, DNI, all these people have extraordinary, I believe, unconstitutional ability because of the Patriot Act to find anyone anywhere at any time.
And yet they still haven't turned off the money.
You know, this is my hardest part to understand because I've been for six years on stage breaking down the money.
I mean, we're glad we have Dad a Republican and Mike Benz and all these people, but this knowledge is not new.
Millie Weaver, a lot of people were out there, Santilli, for years turning over.
Like, this is stop the money.
If they shut off the money, they end this.
And then it's a bunch of crazy people.
And frankly, these people are not, you can't debate them.
You can't speak to them.
They are their brains have already been.
I mean, I don't know what to call it, but it does seem like a mass MK Ultra kind of triggering mind control thing.
And the craziest part is it's not about Trump.
So every time that they bring up Trump or we got to get rid of Noah, there are probably 600,000 trafficked children that the Biden White House lost track of.
Who's going to find them if not ICE?
And I believe that most of them are in sex trafficking, labor trafficking, not to mention the adults that are being trafficked and all of the networks that have been built over the last four years of the autopen.
You know, this is very dangerous.
And to think that the ICE guys are the bad guys.
And I want to, I want to say something too.
A lot of these ICE guys aren't coming in.
They have ICE agents in Minnesota that live there with their families and everything else that are in serious danger.
And everyone is siding with the illegals, the illegals that stole their taxpayer dollars and sent it to Somalia.
unidentified
Yeah.
breanna morello
Isn't it crazy?
melody krell
Yes.
What is wrong with Americans that they don't understand?
This was a controlled demolition of the United States of America that essentially started after World War II and is coming to a head right now because of the disruption, frankly, of Donald Trump being elected in 2016 and then uncovering a lot of criminality that the American people can see with their own eyes.
And yet the people of Minneapolis and of Minnesota have been through this before.
So, you know, it's just, you can't really say that it's not organized when it's ground zero for Black Lives Matter is now ground zero for kill ICE and destroy America.
And again, it's never about what it's about.
It's for these people.
These are revolutionary communists, Marxists.
It's always about the revolution.
It's never about what they're saying.
So they couldn't care less about ICE or deportations.
What they care about is furthering the revolution of overthrowing the U.S. government and capitalism because most of these people don't have normal jobs or aren't raising kids.
I don't know as time to do this at all unless they're being paid.
So again, I think what we have to realize is this is just a continuation of the controlled demolition of the United States of America that started, frankly, after World War II, but kicked into high gear under Obama and Holder.
Two radicals trained by the Weather Underground.
And this is just an extension of that.
breanna morello
Yeah, well, it is an extension of that.
And you know, we're going to have the mayor in studio in a little bit.
And I want to ask him specifically about the point you brought up.
I mean, the FBI continues to tell us, oh, it's an ongoing investigation.
When Charlie Clark was assassinated, we were told that all these left-wing groups are going to be targeted and all of this.
And I was expecting the next day after his funeral services, Mel, for doors to be ripped off the hinges and nothing happened.
And here we are again, giving these strongly, even Pam Bonnie said it.
She said, Oh, I wrote them a strongly.
She caught herself because she didn't say the word worded, but she did send a strongly, a strong letter over to Walt's office.
Now we know that Walt and it looks like the mayor, Jacob Fry, had a conversation with President Trump.
We'll talk about that in a little bit because, from what it sounds like, he's being criticized, the president, for being a little softball on the two.
melody krell
He's in an impossible situation.
The truth is, they want him to call the Insurrection Act.
Norm Eisen and his law affair friends have been planning this for years.
They have playbooks from 2016 forward about turn.
They stopped allowing real elections because they stopped allowing the people to decide who runs this country.
Now it's this law affair group and this international money that actually runs our country.
And if we don't start to understand that these law affair people put all this in place, this morning I saw Mark Elias out there cheering himself on because now Minnesota doesn't have to turn over their voter rolls.
Why wouldn't they?
Why doesn't every American want just American citizens to choose our leadership?
Yeah, because we don't anymore.
Because they replaced by the people for the people to who cares who wins the election because we're going to destroy the country after it anyway.
breanna morello
Yeah.
Well, folks, right now we're about to hit a quick break.
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unidentified
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breanna morello
Welcome back to the American Journal Organization.
You're all joining us live from West Palm Beach.
Mayor Ruby Giuliani will be with us in studio in just a bit.
So buckle up.
We have a big show ahead of you guys all right now.
But I'm excited to be joined by two incredible people right now in studio.
Mel Kay is joining us, the host of the Mel Kay Show, also the author of Americans Anonymous, what everyone at home needs to go grab right now on Amazon.
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And I highly recommend you get involved.
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He's the founder of Spencer Pruitt.
And we're very honored to have you on today because you're an incredible strategist as well and a great mind when it comes to the political space.
So thank you for being here.
Always a pleasure.
hunter gaylor
No, it's amazing.
I think it's great.
So obviously, you know, InfoWars is where the real info has the wars.
So like, you know, so it's great.
melody krell
Better be acting like it.
hunter gaylor
Well, no, that's totally true.
I mean, you know, I was watching the segment earlier that you were talking about with what's going on, and you were saying interesting how it's like where George Floyd in the beginning of it.
People don't understand, like in warfare.
And if anyone has ever studied, you know, war in general, there is tacticians, there is strategy, there is like logistics.
There's a lot of stuff that goes into pre-planning this stuff.
So it just doesn't, as you said, I mean, listen, I work every day very hard.
I wake up in the morning, I get my stuff done, I go home.
I don't, I'm too tired at the end of the day to go sit here and riot at 9, 10, 11 o'clock at night.
H-1B Visa Issues 00:15:07
hunter gaylor
I'd rather just be at a bar.
You know, that's what, so, so you know, these people are being paid.
There's an infrastructure around it.
There's a banking apparatus around it.
There's an entire logistical.
So you're absolutely right.
And, you know, I'm glad that you're bringing the attention to it because all of the mainstream media news is not talking about it whatsoever.
And that's a big problem.
breanna morello
Yeah.
melody krell
And if they are talking about it, they're talking about it like it's a like it's a peaceful protest or like it like it's really sad.
I feel very bad for these ICE guys because I do know that much of this is a they are trying to find all of those trafficked children on top of all of this.
We have hundreds of thousands of children that were put through that border.
Most of them probably sex trafficked, if not worse.
And frankly, who's going to find them?
Yeah, like, why doesn't that matter?
And how about all the infrastructure?
Everywhere that there's this kind of fraud, there's going to be the exact same thing happen.
We're going to see it in LA.
We're going to see it in Detroit.
We're going to see it in Chicago.
We already have Brandon Johnson.
Again, we have allowed people to get away with stuff over and over, and they are emboldened by that.
And they think that they're going to get that nothing's going to happen to them again.
And frankly, accountability hasn't been had.
So are they so wrong?
breanna morello
Well, no, Mel, I think accountability hasn't happened.
That's the real frustrating part here.
And speaking of, I kind of want to shift the gears a little bit over to the H-1B visa issue because we keep learning more and more fraud.
You know, my girl Sarah Gonzalez is knocking on doors and just asking simple questions in Texas, like, hey, you got like 20-something people who are apparently supposed to be working for you here at your home.
Where are they?
And then she finds that they really aren't there.
And so there's all these allegations floating around.
But Dallas Express is also jumping on board with this.
And they recently uncovered something massive in Texas as well, that Texas AM has been spending a lot of money, a lot of cash on these H-1B visas.
So joining me now to discuss the reporter who's behind all of this, please welcome to the show, Kellen Jones.
He's been digging into all of this as their senior investigative reporter.
And it's an honor to have him back on today's program.
Kellen, I want to thank you for being here.
I know you've been digging into the H-1B visa issue, and I know the governor is now responding to all of this.
So break down your latest report.
kellen mccgovern jones
Brianna, thank you so much for having me on again.
It's wonderful to join all of you.
This is a months-long battle that has finally culminated just this morning in a little bit of action.
The battle started around Thanksgiving when I asked Texas AM under a Texas Public Information Act request to give me the documents on how much they had spent hiring H-1B workers over the last five years.
And two months went by and they hadn't handed over the record.
Now, as a lot of your listeners will know, and as I'm sure you know, typically under the Texas Public Information Act, they're supposed to give up the records after 10 days.
Well, two months go by and finally I've had enough with Texas AM and we reported them to the Attorneys General.
That was the 22nd of this month.
And then did a story that we'd reported Texas AM to the Attorneys General.
And suddenly, then the documents materialize.
Now, what we didn't know at that time is that the governor was looking into this issue and he demanded the internal records from AM as well.
And we'll talk a little bit about how that ended later.
When I got the documents from Texas AM, what we found is that they spent $3.25 million over the last five years hiring H-1B workers, mostly according to national data from India and China, to come to Texas to do jobs.
Now, what jobs were they doing?
It wasn't the super high-level, this is the Einstein of Calcutta or the Einstein of Beijing, and they're so important.
We're going to bring them over on an H-1B visa and give them tenure right away because we have to have them right now.
These were low-level, generally speaking, instructional roles.
Many of them were for instructors or the types of professors that don't have tenure.
And in some cases, we found that they were applying for communications manager jobs, graphic designer jobs.
In several cases, we found that they were applying for software developers.
And so I did a little digging and I found the job descriptions to be a software developer at AM.
And you need a few years of experience in computer science and to have a computer science bachelor's degree.
Brianna, one in four computer science majors at the time these applications were put in are unemployed or underemployed.
Of course, underemployed means that you're working a job and you're totally overqualified for it.
So one in four Americans either can't find a job in this line of work or is working a job they're overqualified for.
And Texas A ⁇ M is spending $3.25 million to hire aliens.
to do those jobs.
And they couldn't explain why.
I asked the university, I asked the president of the university why they had spent this money and why they hadn't invested it in American students.
Of course, Texas A ⁇ M and the Texas A ⁇ M system can hire and create anyone they want.
They can identify talent in high skills and in their university system, and they can produce any expert.
They've chosen to hire alien labor.
And it looks like they've hired about 650 H-1B workers over the last five years.
breanna morello
And the governor is now responding to all of this too.
I think I've heard you say previously.
What's the latest coming from the governor?
kellen mccgovern jones
That's right.
Thanks to the Texas Tribune, they gave us credit for setting all this into motion.
The governor, according to Bullpen, it was reported this morning, is going to announce today a halt to the H-1B visas in the public sector.
Apparently, since the reporting last week, there's been a review going on while he has battled with A ⁇ M for his own documents.
And we're expecting today he's going to announce some halt, but we don't quite have all the details yet.
breanna morello
Yeah.
Well, that's fascinating.
Hunter, you're a business owner.
I mean, what do you think about all this?
hunter gaylor
Well, here's my issue, right?
And obviously, he knows exactly what he's talking about.
And I commend him for the research and just what he's doing to expose this.
The problem is, is when you look at the visa program in general internationally, as a business owner, I want the most skilled qualified people.
Now, not to go off on a tangent, it's sad that we're not doing and investing in the American China first system.
And that goes into rabbit holes we can go down with the problem with our education system and all of the other stuff.
But the fact that they're abusing the system, once again, abusing the system.
So my question is, is what other visas are they doing besides the H-1B?
What other visas that we're not talking about or thinking about?
That's really what I want to know because it's not just the H-1B visa.
There's like a bunch of other visas as well.
So, you know, the problem is, and I don't know the real answer to this, but at what point are we following who's benefiting from getting the H-1B visa?
Because if they're just bringing people in and they're in these know-nothing jobs, what's the benefit?
What's the benefit?
melody krell
Where is the kickback?
Where is the money?
hunter gaylor
Like, that's what I want to know.
Because if I'm trying to bring these people over and they're not qualified for the job and I'm just trying to get it, what's the scam?
melody krell
But if they're saying one in four computer programming majors, even out of Texas A ⁇ M, are unemployed, well, then it obviously isn't America that's going to benefit.
hunter gaylor
No.
And by the way, you know, I didn't get an engineering degree, right?
I got a bachelor's of liberal arts and studied, you know, political science and global finance, et cetera.
And what I've never understood is we get these people over from China.
And I went to an okay school, not now, but, you know, okay.
And here's the problem.
The guys in like a CS50 class, which is like a computer science class, these guys are wicked smart, right?
Wicked smart.
And, you know, whether you look at the top engineering schools or whatever, you know, I just, these people that they're bringing over, they're killing us.
unidentified
Yeah.
melody krell
It's the controlled demolition of the United States of America and it's been going on a long time.
And a lot of this also has to do with the, I believe there's been an out and out war on young men in this country.
So who are mostly computer majors?
I would say probably young men.
Our son is one.
So to me, these, they need experience.
They need those entry-level jobs and they're not even being, you know, looked at for them because these H-1B things, they are in the ads.
They are only hiring that.
They're not saying if there's not enough Americans to fit these jobs, then we'll go to them.
That's not what they're doing.
hunter gaylor
Well, that makes you question the benefits.
My big issue is with Vivek Ramaswamy, right?
Because when you look at what he was talking about, and I won't go into his background, but that remains for another conversation and some adult beverages to go along with it because that's what I need to be able to even talk about them is all of the big tech, little tech people pushing this visa thing for people that are performing, right?
You're hurting America by doing that.
But what the corporation is doing, I want to put the business hat on for a second.
The business hat is saying, where can I get the same level at a cheaper price?
And if I can just bust them in from India, right?
And have a bunch of Indians here because it lowers my labor costs, right?
It increases my profit margins.
Of course, I'm going to push for that.
And I'm going to find a way to abuse the system because at the end of the day, it's always about the money.
breanna morello
Well, I actually want to ask Kellen, because I know your investigation is not stopping here.
Are you looking into any other colleges in Texas right now?
kellen mccgovern jones
Yes, we are.
We've got an investigation going on with UT.
We've got one going on with Tech.
And we've got some investigations going on with local school districts as well.
I'll be putting out a report in a few days that Dallas ISD has obtained about 1,200 approvals for H-1B workers over the last five years.
And they spend a ton of money to execute that system.
And there'll be some more details with that forthcoming.
The point is, is that every university in Texas, just about, at least public universities, are using H-1B visas.
And part of the reason for that is that there's a carve out in the federal law that there is not a cap on university hiring of H-1B visas like there is with the private sector.
The private sector has to compete for about 85,000 visas.
The public sector gets about as many as they want.
breanna morello
That is so crazy.
That is so crazy.
Kellen McGovern Jones, my friend, thank you for joining us again.
You're doing an incredible job over at the Dallas Express.
You're the senior investigative journalist.
And folks, give him a follow on X as well.
Caltown Caller is where you could find him.
Kellen, thank you for joining us in this great report.
I look forward to having you back on after you get some more information too on these other schools because I'm sure they're not going to like it when you expose them, but it's really, really important.
So thank you, Kellen.
kellen mccgovern jones
Thank you, Brianna.
breanna morello
Thank you.
Thank you.
unidentified
All right.
breanna morello
I want to bring back to you guys because, you know, we obviously are sitting here going, what the F?
This is insane that they're able to do this.
And there's really low restrictions on all of this.
It doesn't really scream America first.
And you don't expect this from Texas.
They tell us all that Texas is a red state.
So you would never expect this from there.
melody krell
Yeah, well, we all had an intelligence briefing that Texas is not okay.
unidentified
It's not.
melody krell
There's a huge problem in Texas on multi-levels and it has been allowed.
Also, I just want to say this is, you know, I believe that we've been living through the Cloud Piven strategy of collapsing America from within by oversaturating, having illegals come in, but also people on the social services and Medicaid and all of that.
What's sadder is that all three of us know that an entry-level job is where you really learn.
You know, you can learn everything in school, but once you get that first job, that's where you really learn to interact with teams.
You learn responsibility, deadlines, all this important stuff is the first job, the entry-level job.
What is happening is entry-level jobs are no longer going to young men, American young men.
And this is a real problem.
So we have to also look at it the bigger picture as to these ads for these H-1B visas.
There's also all the ads that are for basically, if you're a young white man in America, don't apply.
And this is across the board with entry-level jobs, which is how people start their careers.
So essentially, what they're trying to do, it seems to me, is to create a generation, I would say, of young men that don't have the opportunity that was promised to Americans for our future.
They're taking away the purpose.
You know, it's like when we were laughing last week, it's not funny, but we were laughing how Elon Musk was saying that the optimist is going to take over raising our kids and scare our pets and taking care of our parents.
Well, I mean, this seems to be kind of the similar thing.
Like, you know, we don't really need those young American men anymore.
We're just going to demoralize them, put them into unemployment, get them hooked on drugs, you know, whatever the case may be.
I mean, what's the other option?
If you're, if there's no jobs for these people and they'd prefer to empower people.
hunter gaylor
Yeah.
And I'll never forget, you know, in studying of politics or following politics or whatever, you know, when Newt Gingrich was running for president, right?
There was a very famous line he had in one of the debates.
And it was so pivotal in my professional growth of what he said because it's so true to the strength of a nation.
And he said, I want to create an America where a young man or a young person can get a job, learn the job, and one day own the job.
melody krell
Exactly.
hunter gaylor
That is the upward mobility to strengthen a strong working middle class.
And when you start outsourcing that responsibility, you start killing America, right?
And we've been doing it because we have not been going out.
And I say this all the time.
Look at our trade schools.
We have an aging, we have an aging.
My parents are aging out, right?
They're out of the workforce.
Look at all of the companies.
Look at the plumbing job.
Look at the best thing out there is, I think, someone like a dirty jobs where they're showing you all of these things.
People don't realize that our entire, your life, and this is, this is my, I have a personal vendetta about this, but what we have done with this online world, right, with regards to OnlyFans and the sexualization and overeasy of how is how easy it is for these people to just, you know, not care about society, not care about how they, you know, go work and get a job and make an honest living.
Like that, where do you think that phrase comes from?
Make an honest living.
You get up every day, you pull yourself up by your bootstraps and you get to work.
We grow up now in a, I want it right now, right?
Get me the dollar menu and the drive-through lane.
Let me get it now, right?
That's not how America was built.
It was built on grit.
New View on Universities 00:08:11
hunter gaylor
It was built on exceptionalism.
It was built on all of these things.
And what we're doing is we're robbing the future because we are not equipping the people with the environment to be able to create and to grow and to innovate.
We're just not doing it.
melody krell
But our universities have become businesses.
That's it.
Educational bastions.
hunter gaylor
Harvard, I want you to think about this.
And I said this on one of the shows.
I said Harvard is a hedge fund with dorm rooms.
unidentified
I know.
melody krell
I've been saying it too.
And you actually went there.
So you know that better.
hunter gaylor
And I could tell you, their endowment is like, you know, quote me, guys, fact checkers go fact check it.
What is their endowment?
50, 53 billion dollars?
melody krell
You know who runs it?
Penny Pritzker.
unidentified
Yeah.
hunter gaylor
So, and you look at these and you look at these other endowments that are out there and these tax things that they're doing.
melody krell
And they're nonprofits.
Yeah.
I mean, they're hedge funds attached to schools.
And then the thing, particularly about Harvard, and I went to a school that has done the same thing.
What is also going on is that then they started really, really changing their criteria to get in, to get people in there that they can then groom to go out there and be activist teachers and work at NGOs and all this, not to be innovators, not to be entrepreneurs, not to be that, but to be operatives in their revolution.
hunter gaylor
Well, they don't from personal experience.
And I have to say, I thoroughly enjoyed my time at the university, but because I was involved.
melody krell
Yes.
hunter gaylor
Right.
I wasn't a plant from the Chinese government.
breanna morello
That's what's going to act.
hunter gaylor
Like, like, you know, sorry.
Hey, CIA, I didn't get a call.
Look at me.
I look like James Bond.
Look at me.
Come on.
You know, like, where's my call?
You know, so the problem, the problem is, is in the universities now, they have changed.
And I think I was probably one of the last classes before they really went woke.
I mean, I was there when they were pushing with Al Gore.
So Crimson, Harvard doesn't have a mascot, right?
So it's just the crimson, right?
So they say violets.
unidentified
Yeah.
hunter gaylor
So it's, it's crimson.
And they had the whole campaign.
Green is the new crimson because they wanted to go green.
And they wrapped the little toilets, right?
The flusher, right?
Press down for one and up for two for water conservation.
I mean, it's just a joke what they've done.
So they've been manipulating the students now into almost these training centers, right?
melody krell
Oh, yeah.
They're ending.
hunter gaylor
For exact directed, they are not teaching anymore.
I'm not sitting down and learning.
melody krell
At the schools of education, they are teaching teachers to be activist trainers.
I mean, it's just really pathetic at this point.
But I'm telling you, we really have to start paying attention to the war on our young men in this country.
Everything from the Me Too Forward and then the Women's March and then, you know, somehow including women.
All women are also on the same level as all minorities somehow.
I mean, I've worked, you know, I'm pretty old.
I've worked for a lot of people.
At least 75% of the CEOs or high-level people I worked for have been women since the 90s.
So, I mean, this whole thing, but I mean, this is robbing American young men of opportunity on a vast majority basis.
hunter gaylor
But it's hurting, it's hurting like for me working in global finance.
I can tell you that when they started pushing for all these major corporations that are publicly traded, this diversity stuff, where you have to have like minorities and women and stuff on boards.
Not that I have anything against women, but like a safe place.
No, no, no.
Yeah, right.
I feel like I'm, you know, the new view, the new view.
But no, no, the problem is, is, okay, so I'm going to put someone on my board, right, that's not qualified, but fits a, it fits a rule that the NASDAQ has or something like that.
You got to be kidding me.
melody krell
But it's part of the overthrow of, they want to overthrow capitalism.
Like these are hardcore Marxist communists.
And maybe if the Weather Underground and all of their friends that were actual domestic terrorists didn't get pumped up and put into the universities and then basically trained Barack Obama, Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn, basically trained him to get to where he was.
Well, that is what we're dealing with.
We are dealing with people that are Solinskyites.
The revolution is the win.
And the more that they can disrupt America from within, they will.
The problem is that we have law enforcement and military that should know better.
breanna morello
Yeah.
And I want to actually get back to the foreign thing here because I remember when President Trump just a few months ago was talking about how these colleges, these universities really need foreigners to come in because they're the ones who are keeping them afloat.
And he extended the thousands of people.
hunter gaylor
He should have never said that.
breanna morello
Isn't it so infuriating?
And it's never really been corrected.
And we're still giving thousands of more visas to these Chinese ECP spies.
hunter gaylor
But here's the thing about that, right?
And I'm glad you brought that up because this is, this boils my blood, right?
The fact of the matter is, right?
And people joke.
I know for a fact, right?
I know for a fact there are organizations out there, okay, that are pipelining in from the Chinese paying to get their kids into these Ivy League schools.
Now, what people don't realize is go look at all the federal judges, go look at all of like a bunch of the judges, the courts, the lawyers.
They all went to the same alma mater.
You don't think they're collaborating with one another?
Goldman Sachs does it?
If your daddy worked at Goldman Sachs and your mom is pretty, guess what?
And you have a kid, guess where he's going to get a job?
melody krell
I know, I know, but that's the thing that I say always about lawfare and these law firms of these, you know, people that are out there basically bailing people out immediately, no matter what they do.
This is all coming through the Southern Poverty Law Center, ACLU, NAACP.
Do not forget that when Eric Holder went in, the revolutionary himself, nobody really ever looked into Eric Holder, but now we're finding out a lot of things about the cartels.
We were talking with Lara Logan yesterday.
She was talking about the cartels are really embedded.
Peter Schweitzer just put out a very disturbing new book about all of the infiltration of the Mexican cartels all over America, all these consulates, all this stuff.
Well, don't forget about Fast and Furious and arming the cartels.
hunter gaylor
But they want to sweep that under the rug, Mel.
They're sweeping because no one's talking.
And that because, you know, until heads start rolling and people start being perp walked, they perp walked our president.
Like, that's why we were saying, I know we were talking about this over the weekend, but like we need real serious accountability if you're going to fix the system.
melody krell
And let's be very honest, both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama put out letters.
And don't forget, Hillary Clinton's thesis in college was about Solinsky, the original revolutionary with the revolutionary handbook.
We have to remember yesterday, both Clinton and Obama basically backed up the rioters calling for it again.
And Hillary Clinton, she wrote her thesis about this.
She was in love with Solinsky.
He's rules for radicals.
breanna morello
Yeah.
melody krell
Like, these are not good people.
The controlled demolition of America has been going on for a very long time and they've all been in on it.
breanna morello
Yeah, I'm going to step in here because we're about to hit a hard commercial break, but I want to tell our audience, we've got Mayor Rudy Giuliani joining us in the studio in just a few moments.
You're going to want to sit here for that because we're going to talk to him about while we haven't seen much in the way of prosecutions going on right now.
We're seeing a lot of left-wing terrorists, obviously, fleeing to the streets of Minneapolis and not much being done.
We have a very clear RICO case, and obviously he's the king of RICO.
So we'll ask him about that in a little bit.
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jon bowne
Engulfed by the smokescreen of the ongoing ice raids and the anti-ice protests.
jacob frey
This is not just about resistance here in Minneapolis.
It's about love.
Jury Tampering Scheme Revealed 00:04:32
jacob frey
You've got people uniting and coming together in this beautiful way.
trace gallagher
After the shooting of Renee Goode, the coverage of ICE on CBS, NBC, and ABC was 93% negative.
93% negative is not journalism.
It's tribalism.
jon bowne
Let's keep our eye on the ball.
alexis mcadams
How high up do you think the message went that there was fraud?
Do you think it made its way to the governor's office?
aimee bock
I struggle to believe it didn't.
I have to believe that the governor's office and Keith Ellison's office were aware of this.
They've said they were involved in helping the FBI.
They've said they were made aware.
tom tiffany
Mr. Dexter, could have something been done about this earlier?
scott dexter
Yes.
As I stated in my opening testimony, in the years that I worked there, we identified how fraud was occurring, the loopholes that existed.
tom tiffany
What were some of the warning signs, Mr. Dexter?
scott dexter
Well, the fact that part of our job was to go and collect attendance records.
We would find attendance records that were either incomplete, non-existent.
isaac schultz
But I can't understate it.
How frustrated Minnesotans are right now with the level of fraud and the lack of accountability.
Assistant Commissioner Moore said that through the SWIFT system, through your accounting system, you know who you're paying.
You know the people who you are sending money to.
You know their name.
You know their business.
Frankly, you probably know who they're connected to.
And through the tools, across state agencies and across all of the executive branch, from business registrations to what they have to file with the Attorney General's office, all of those tools exist.
So why are payments continuing to people who have been convicted of fraud?
jon bowne
Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry's inner circle has been riddled with explosive ties to one of the biggest fraud heists in American history, the $250 million Feeding Our Future scam.
andy luger
The brazen scheme of staggering proportions.
jon bowne
The largest pandemic fraud in the United States.
isaac schultz
The subjects in this case weren't interested in Feeding Our Future.
jeff wagner
They were interested in feeding their own gluttony.
We have new details on a jury tampering scheme at the center of a major fraud case.
Federal prosecutors indicted five people for their roles in offering a juror $120,000 for a not guilty verdict in the Feeding Our Future fraud scheme.
The U.S. attorney says the group targeted juror 52 because she was the youngest juror and appeared to be the only juror of color.
jon bowne
Three of Fry's own appointees got nailed.
Former senior policy aide Abdi Nur Salah pleaded guilty to wire fraud.
Shamarke A. Issa, twice handpicked to chair the Minneapolis Public Housing Authority, copped to wire fraud and restitution in the millions.
Abdik Qadir Ainanche Mohamed Tap for Fry's Community Safety Work Group faced indictments in the same rotten scheme.
Add in campaign max donations from at least eight indicted players, plus Fry's own wife, Sarah Clark, lobbying at the firm that shielded Feeding Our Future itself.
And you've got a tangled web of proximity, appointments, and unanswered questions screaming conflict and cover.
jacob frey
Look, the fraud's real.
We've all got to acknowledge that the fraud is very real.
And by the way, when somebody commits fraud, and there are many that have done that, you investigate it, you charge, you prosecute, and yeah, you put the person in jail.
As an individual, you put the person in jail as an individual.
You do not hold an entire community, any community, accountable for the actions of individuals.
jon bowne
Fry claims ignorance and distances himself.
But how long can the distraction go on for this city under siege by its own local and state government?
john solomon
Who are the funders, the orchestrators, the facilitators of these riots and these efforts to impede lawful enforcement?
jon bowne
John Bowne reporting for InfoWars.
Favorite People On Air 00:06:49
unidentified
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Watch it live right now at banned.video.
breanna morello
We're excited to have you all here in the third hour of the program.
And I'm a little excited right now because one of my favorite people are here.
But before we go there, I got to remind you all, we're taking calls in the third hour of the show.
unidentified
Okay.
breanna morello
So if you want to call the show, you want to jump on in, 877-789-2539.
That's 877-789-2539.
We're going to be taking your calls in about 25 minutes.
So if you want to join the show, talk about the topics we've discussed thus far.
That's the number you're going to call into.
But man, oh man, am I excited to have Mayor Rudy Giuliani sitting right by me right now?
He is the host of America's Mayor, which is live at 8 p.m. Eastern Time on X. Welcome to the show, Mayor.
We're excited to have you here.
rudy giuliani
Well, it's great to be here, Brianna.
unidentified
Yeah.
rudy giuliani
Listen to you all the time.
So it's great to see it live.
breanna morello
Well, thank you.
We're very terrific.
rudy giuliani
You're all terrific.
You do great work for America.
breanna morello
Well, thank you.
Thank you.
I really appreciate that.
And, you know, we've got my favorite people here as well.
So this is going to be a great conversation.
Mel Kay joining us, hosting the Mel K show.
melody krell
Yeah.
breanna morello
As well as Hunter Gaylor, who's obviously the one who's helping us and hosting us today.
As many of our audience knows, they're like, Brianna, why aren't you in Texas right now?
I got stuck in West Palm Beach due to the fact that Texas doesn't know how to deal with snow.
So Hunter was very gracious and let us deal with that here.
hunter gaylor
Cry in beautiful, sunny South Florida.
breanna morello
It's a little cold.
hunter gaylor
This is the new Southern Command, by the way.
breanna morello
All right.
unidentified
All right.
breanna morello
I'll come back.
rudy giuliani
It's like three four days.
It seems like it's the most Roosevelt had like a White House in Arkansas or something.
unidentified
Yeah.
rudy giuliani
We call it the something White House.
We should call this like the Palm Beach White House.
hunter gaylor
Yeah, the Palm Beach White House.
breanna morello
I think it's a good idea.
rudy giuliani
So the Mar-Lago White House.
hunter gaylor
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
Yes.
breanna morello
Yeah.
No, I think, well, maybe you could add an order.
You might have a dear question.
rudy giuliani
Some things I, you know, I just started singing and he picked it up.
Most of the times I pick up, I used to pick it up from him.
We've known each other 40 years.
Yeah.
So during the 16 campaign, I literally spent four months with him.
I wouldn't say 24 hours a day, but the way he works is crazy.
And I was like the one person who could stay with him.
I saw a thing in the press from Marco, Rubio, saying that he's ashamed to fall asleep on Air Force One because Trump never sleeps.
So he curls himself up in a blanket and he puts himself, puts it over his head so that he looks like a staff person.
Oh, that's so funny.
The staff people are.
So he won't go by and see his Secretary of the Treasury State sleeping.
And I can remember that.
And Trump used to love it.
He used to come, come, he'd come and get me, bring me in, then let's walk.
Wait, wait, look at all the kids.
They're all sleeping.
Look at all those kids sleeping.
You're not sleeping.
You're an old man.
I'm an old man.
You're not sleeping.
james okeefe
All sleeping.
breanna morello
Well, that was so funny because when I, the last time I had dinner at Mar-a-Lago, I was like yawning and ready to go to bed.
And it was around 11 o'clock at night.
Well, he was, he was still ready to go.
unidentified
Yeah.
breanna morello
He's like, oh, no, no.
melody krell
He's going to be doing the DJ all night there.
unidentified
I know.
breanna morello
He had his pad.
He was ready to go.
It was quite impressive.
I actually felt like a loser.
unidentified
Yeah.
melody krell
That's just me.
Also calling.
rudy giuliani
Yeah.
He's much better at it than when he was a younger man.
But I think in this administration, he hasn't done it as much.
But in the first administration, like he'd come in there before people in the Oval Office long, I'd go, get him out.
God.
breanna morello
I remember that video when someone coughed right in front of him.
rudy giuliani
Okay, they had the thing.
hunter gaylor
The P-Tape.
rudy giuliani
When they had the thing, and then he peeped.
It on the bed.
The guy is a germaphobia.
Yeah.
I don't care if it's in Russia or Canarsi.
melody krell
Oh, my God.
hunter gaylor
Did you see?
Did you see there was the Wall Street Journal interview where he's in his office first running and he says he he said, Shaq gave me the shoe and he's holding it by the string.
He's like, aren't you afraid of germs?
He's like, from Shaq?
No, you know, but that's a big foot.
He's holding it by the string.
rudy giuliani
He's almost over it now.
Yeah, almost over.
I mean, I could see.
melody krell
Well, he's had to shake so many hands.
He got to kind of get over it.
rudy giuliani
Like when he first started, he used to use a script.
He would put a scripto in his hand.
melody krell
Right.
rudy giuliani
And instead of shaking with each sign, which people loved.
I mean, they loved the idea, but it took too long.
You're wanting to shake hands.
You sign 100 on the way out and your next appointment is waiting.
So he's gotten to the shaking.
He's even gotta hugging zigzag.
melody krell
I know.
breanna morello
I saw a couple of those.
melody krell
Hey, hey, when you look God right in the eyes and you stand back up, sometimes.
rudy giuliani
But an Italian, I hug.
melody krell
Yeah.
Me too, as I hugged.
breanna morello
But Andrew Cuomo, don't let them get away with that creepy stuff he was doing.
I already tried writing off as being an Italian.
rudy giuliani
Son Andrew Land.
Yes.
unidentified
Yes.
rudy giuliani
And he would call when he was greeting women and they would come up.
He would tend to hug.
He would say, I'm Andrew.
I'm Andrew Giuliani.
Please, I'm going to hug you.
But, you know, not the same way.
Not the same with other Andrew Johnson.
unidentified
Right, right.
melody krell
Exactly.
Exactly.
breanna morello
It's so true.
And it's kind of strange, right?
We have a president in the White House right now who's not sniffing the heads of babies.
So it's been a real change.
rudy giuliani
And you like deals with him so beautifully.
He's great.
melody krell
Yeah.
rudy giuliani
He takes care of my kids.
I mean, he was very, very special to Andrew.
He's like an uncle.
While growing up.
He helped me a lot because I got divorced.
There was a certain amount of friction.
And the president used to play golf with him all the time and tell him how much his father cared about him, how much his father loved him, and how you have to, you have to, whatever's going on between mom and dad, because he's been through it, right?
melody krell
Yeah, of course.
rudy giuliani
It's not you.
They both love you.
So don't, don't, don't let either one of them, because sometimes they won't know it.
They may try to spill it over on you.
And it was enormously, I mean, it was just beautiful.
That's one of the reasons why I get so angry when they try to make him a bad man.
I know.
You want to fight about his policies?
I'll fight about it.
Sometimes I disagree with his policies.
What I can't stand is he's come from a good place.
melody krell
I know.
rudy giuliani
His policies come from a really very solid place.
hunter gaylor
Well, I mean, I've said this as a business person.
When you look at the enterprise that he's created and what he has gone through, right?
I mean, you remember there's, I mean, I've watched documentaries and I've seen, you know, because I've been following Trump since I was a little kid.
And, you know, because you look up to a guy like that and, you know, he's got his name on airplanes and casinos and hotels and all this stuff and vineyards and he's building golf courses and documentaries and all this stuff.
If I were in his shoes, I would be doing exactly what he's doing because I don't want the stuff that I'm building, even on a personal level.
Forget about the rest of the country, just on a personal level, the amount of stuff he has and for the country to just ruin all of it for him.
unidentified
You know?
Pfizer's Four Times Corroboration 00:08:39
unidentified
Yeah.
melody krell
I think it's bigger than that.
I think what I've always noticed about him, even from 20 years ago, watching him with Tiffany when she was a little girl, he has so much love for his children and his grandchildren that you don't see that kind of, I mean, they are everything to him.
You know, when he's down here, he rarely goes out and he really likes to spend most of his time with his kids for real.
rudy giuliani
You know, and he never, he never, he never really exploited it.
Even now, it's covered a little bit more, but it's not the way other politicians do.
You know, they're constantly taking pictures with their kids around them.
They're around appropriately.
melody krell
Yeah.
rudy giuliani
They're around appropriately.
And he talks about them.
And he tries hard to keep them.
And I'll tell you, you're really right about this.
When I represented him, they used to constantly, the horrible fascist mower people used to constantly leak, we're going to indict Don Jr.
unidentified
I know.
rudy giuliani
We're going to indict Don Jr.
Now, I knew the case backward and forward, and all my lawyers did.
They had nothing on Don Jr.
Nothing.
If they indicted him, even a Democratic judge would have thrown it out.
And I would tell him, Mr. President, first couple of times, I was worried, so I checked it out.
By the third time, I said, Mr. President, they do this to get to you.
unidentified
Yes.
rudy giuliani
And they used to do it before.
They even, so blatant, he'd be going off to a meeting with the European leaders.
He'd be going off to a meeting with North Korea.
And on that morning, they do it.
melody krell
It's psychological warfare.
And these people are evil.
rudy giuliani
He's about three or four he finally got it.
melody krell
Right.
rudy giuliani
But, you know, he's even then, even when it was like, it was the fourth time or the fifth time.
You could just see it was different when it was.
He could take it for himself.
melody krell
Yeah.
rudy giuliani
But it was much harder when they started going after going after his kids.
hunter gaylor
That's how sick these people are, though.
unidentified
Yeah.
hunter gaylor
I mean, it's just.
melody krell
They did it to Michael Flynn, too, his son.
They went after Michael Flynn's son, too, to threaten him.
rudy giuliani
Michael Flynn, I think, should be capital punishment.
melody krell
Me too.
unidentified
Yeah.
rudy giuliani
And Mueller and James Cardinal Comey is the one who did that.
melody krell
I know, but that's the issue right now.
And we have to understand that people really do want accountability and we're not seeing it.
And it is upsetting a lot of people.
And it seems that nobody can really, I mean, we have to hold people accountable.
We can't.
This was a seditious conspiracy.
And the worst part, Rudy, is that most people don't realize it was global.
It was not just the Obama administration.
They were working with the UK, with the MI6 and everything.
This was a global overthrow of a duly elected president of the United States of America.
And Tulsi Gabbert comes out in June, says we have evidence of treason.
We have all of this.
And people want treason to be something that matters.
breanna morello
Yeah, Mayor, what do you think about that?
Because that's the real frustration of the American people right now.
We're not seeing prosecutions.
rudy giuliani
I believe that I'm going to give it the best interpretation possible.
I think we've confused weaponizing the justice system, vengeance, justice, which they did with an appropriate use of the justice system, which is what we should do.
Right.
I don't want to see us prosecuting some stupid little guy who worked for the Democratic Party and followed their orders or whatever.
But not to prosecute.
Let's just pick on Comey for a minute.
Four times the guy lied on a Pfizer application.
I helped to establish Pfizer.
I did numerous Pfizer applications, mostly against the Russians.
I took it as a sacred obligation because nobody ever checks it.
I've done a lot of affidavits for search warrants.
They go to court.
They fight with me.
They find a mistake or no mistake.
I have to defend it.
Pfizer application, nobody ever gets to see.
And I get to see everything about you.
And I was trained when we did Pfizer.
I mean, we were all lectured.
This was during the Ford administration.
You just make sure that you check it over and you check it over and you check it over.
And then you had one or two officials you could bring it to if you had a question.
And then all of a sudden, years later, it had nothing to do with Pfizer for a long time.
I see him signing an affidavit that says that all the information is verified.
And then I see him saying on television that it was never verified.
I mean, the affidavit is right from the headline, a lie.
Then he says, I couldn't corroborate it.
It was impossible to corroborate.
I'll give you one piece of information.
In the affidavit, it says that Michael Cohen went to Poland and met with two operatives of Putin to set up some real estate deal on a specific date.
On that specific date, Michael Cohen was in Los Angeles at a baseball tryout for his son, who was either trying to get into the college or the major leagues.
I forgot.
Now, I helped to start Pfizer.
I know the rules we followed.
It is hard to corroborate, but anytime you see a fact, that's a corroboratable, that's a word, fact.
All you have to do is call the for his uh, a passport.
You just say, you just call the passport office, right?
They take the Fbi's call and you say uh, I have an entry here.
I want you to take a look around this time of year, pull out Cohen and see, was he in right?
Was he in Prague?
Well, first thing they'd say is no.
Then you'd say well, maybe they got the date wrong.
Was he ever in Prague?
And they'd say no, now.
Now you'd say let's figure out where the hell he was before we sign this thing go.
We got a problem one more.
They have an incident where they claim they went into a counselor office in Miami for maybe Ukraine or whatever some country Ukraine, let's say Ukraine, they don't have a consular office there.
Now, that's another corroboratable fact.
You, so what you do in a Pfizer thing is you take out all the facts where there could be external proof for you, write them down and then you make calls and then you, you put it down to protect yourself, right?
So I would have, if I did that, called and I would have said uh, is there?
Uh, where is the counselor office?
I'd assume it's correct.
Where's the counselor office in Miami from Ukraine.
They don't have one.
What well did they have one in?
In uh 2020 16, wherever the day was?
They've never had one.
Never never, ever.
Where's the closest one?
In Florida.
They don't have one in Florida.
Wow, now I got two, right now I I could go through the whole.
I give you eight that are just on their face.
That thing got signed four times by federal judges.
Four times he.
He swore it was accurate.
Uh, four times he said he corroborated everything he could.
All of it's a damn lie.
Yeah, in order to intrude on the privacy, first of the candidates for president of the United States and then on the president of the United States.
Yes, if that's not prosecutable, it has to.
Nothing is nothing, right?
No no no, perjury is prosecutable.
hunter gaylor
No, the problem is we were talking about this over the weekend.
The problem is, is what you just laid out for the audience right, is fact?
If I said uh where, where were you on the night of his murder or whatever, of a crime?
Oh well, I was at a Huawei gas station in this place.
There's no WAWE gas station.
There doesn't exist okay, but that's my alibi was there.
That's what he's saying.
That's it.
I was just.
I was there and they don't do any verify and the judge, okay okay, that's crime yeah yeah, but people aren't held accountable.
rudy giuliani
I'm going to tell you an embarrassing fact now.
Oh god, I hired Cognitive.
Originally I know he was in the southern Pacific I hired him as an assistant us attorney.
He was, from all I knew, a uh more better than average assistant us attorney, not not like top of the class, but a guy that can handle complex cases.
Uh, I had a great opinion of him.
When I left, he was with me for three years.
Wow, I mean, I was there for five or six, but he was there for three of them.
I first became and I I kind of supported his career.
I was, I was close uh to to president Bush and uh recommended him highly and when he got into that thing with Ashcroft, got sick and they had to get a Warrant and he wouldn't sign the warrant.
And he went all the way to the hospital and he required that Ashcroft sign the warrant, even though the guy was like in serious post-operative condition and he made a big deal out of it.
I said, that's weird.
Dishonest Human Beings 00:03:43
rudy giuliani
This is a guy.
This is a guy.
It's a game.
Oh, I know.
It was actually before that.
It's when he prosecuted Martha Stewart.
unidentified
Yeah.
rudy giuliani
Oh, yeah.
That's a celebrity prosecution.
Unbelievable.
There's no way.
One time inside of trading, we always made it civil, always, always.
I pretty much started inside of trading prosecutions.
And if, and it's a tough, it's a tough law to understand if you're not into if you're not into finance big time.
So you always took a first one as a big civil fine.
And then the second time, I'll put you in jail.
Right.
But now you get a big name.
unidentified
Right.
rudy giuliani
And they had a cold.
And it was just completely, I thought, gee, Jim, I wouldn't have done that.
Why did Jim do that?
breanna morello
Mayor I want to ask you too.
I mean, this is Infowars.
We could float some conspiracy theories out there.
Why do you think James Comey has changed?
I mean, this is the guy that you knew and you thought he created this position.
Yeah, because this is what we see.
This is a common theme here where we push these people into positions because we think that they are going to do the best jobs possible.
rudy giuliani
And they've attracted a combination of several real character flaws.
One, one is obviously a very, very raw ambition.
Yeah.
Two is self-righteousness.
That's why I call him James Cardinal Comey.
Right.
He always comes across like he's, you know, he's morally correct.
unidentified
Yes.
rudy giuliani
I don't know if, because he's not really a liberal.
Liberals all have this, they're morally superior to us.
So, I mean, coming from New York, having once been a Democrat, but not a liberal Democrat, a conservative Democrat, which is almost harder than being a conservative Republican.
Yes.
And then having left, I'm one of the world's experts on debating with liberals.
And they are very smart, very often, a lot better than the people we have now, but they are completely, completely know-it-alls.
I know everything.
You know nothing.
You wouldn't believe in God if you're really smart.
Smart people don't believe in God.
And he's like, I don't mean he doesn't believe in God, but he has that, I'm smarter than you are, and I'm more important than you are thing about him.
And then I guess he's just a dishonest human being.
There are so many things he did that he probably had grand ambitions to be attorney general, I'm sure.
And he knew the only way he was going to get there in a crooked administration is to be crooked.
And Clinton and Obama both ran particularly Obama, entirely crooked administration.
unidentified
Yes.
rudy giuliani
Obama gets away with, I was going to say murder, but I can't prove murder, but he gets away with everything else.
hunter gaylor
Well, look at the Clintons, right?
I mean, how many friends do you have that have been assassinated?
melody krell
Not many.
unidentified
Yeah.
hunter gaylor
I mean, they have what, what's their number up to 70 something?
melody krell
A lot of meanable stuff.
hunter gaylor
This is this is the big problem that I've never been able to understand as someone that grew.
And you have to understand, this goes back, you've been involved in politics.
I have a picture of me shaking Rudy Giuliani's hand at Ron John's surf shop when he was running for president.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
hunter gaylor
Right?
rudy giuliani
Yeah.
hunter gaylor
Many, many years ago.
Yeah.
And so what I've never understood about, you know, the right is they always want to be like this moral high ground Christian type thing, but yet the left just does whatever they want.
They get away with it and they have no accountability.
Meaning, if I get in trouble, I'm going to jail, straight to jail, right?
These people, they commit a crime and it's like, hey, congratulations, you committed a crime.
Do you want to commit another?
And they do it time and time and time again.
They blatantly sit in front of the camera with all of the people up in Congress and lie.
Frequent Government Lies 00:03:39
rudy giuliani
Yeah, it's amazing.
melody krell
Is there a mechanism?
Do we not know something?
unidentified
Is there immunity?
melody krell
Why is nobody ever held accountable inside the government?
rudy giuliani
How long have we been going through this?
20 years?
unidentified
Yeah.
rudy giuliani
25 years.
I still don't believe it.
Like when I see Swalwell, I'm saying to myself, why would you put Swalwell on?
hunter gaylor
You know, he's lying.
rudy giuliani
He's incapable of telling the truth.
They just begin lying and they continue to lie.
And they put them on over and over and over again.
And some of it is a conspiracy with the media.
I mean, some of it.
I think I used to think, I used to think it was just liberal, their ideology run amok.
unidentified
Bigger than that.
rudy giuliani
Way beyond that.
Much more corrupt.
It's driven either by blatant Marxism.
Like I spent last night and early this morning researching Tim Walz again.
And here's my problem with Tim from the day he became a candidate.
No one ever really did a good investigation of the connections with Red China.
No one was crying out for investigations.
I say, having not answered the questions, I'm entitled to come to the conclusion that he's a red Chinese operative.
He comes out of college, a small little tiny college.
I doubt he had good grades.
He's so dopey.
And Harvard recruited him.
This sounds great.
Harvard recruited him to go to China.
But half the people they recruited going to China turned out to be Chinese spies.
What were they recruiting them for?
We're just talking about that.
Now, he spends a year and a half there, has an affair with a Chinese woman, a girl who was the daughter of a big shot in the Red Chinese local party, right?
He jills her at some point.
He comes back in love with China.
I got a whole bunch of his quotes about how a recent one, how about this?
And nobody says, how stupid is this?
You know, it really would be helpful in the Middle East if we brought someone like China in with the kind of moral suasion they have.
Yeah, the kind of moral suasion having killed 100 million people.
hunter gaylor
The one child per family.
unidentified
Remember that?
rudy giuliani
They make the mafia look like an order of priests.
And it's ridiculous.
It's a ridiculous statement.
It could only be made by a fool or a communist.
breanna morello
Communists, for sure.
rudy giuliani
Or the famous one, you know, one man's socialism is another man's neighborliness.
unidentified
Yeah, whatever.
rudy giuliani
Early in his career, he had all kinds of things.
China is a wonderful place to go.
You all should go.
Here's the horrible thing.
He brought 50 kids to China every year, had a business, two businesses, him and his wife.
You cannot figure out who was paying.
Nobody's looked really carefully at the record.
We know China paid for some of those trips.
melody krell
Yes.
rudy giuliani
Now, China is not going to let you go back and forth teaching without knowing exactly what you're teaching and approving it.
China would using one of the AI things because I fight with them, you know.
melody krell
Yeah, me too.
rudy giuliani
And this, yeah, I got to go crazy on it.
So this one, this one, this one, I asked her for the trips and she says, she says, no, he, he, he went there during a period of time when China didn't really do surveillance.
So I say back to it, you are either a naive fool or a communist.
breanna morello
Mayor.
rudy giuliani
Because there never was a time that they didn't surveil you.
Never, ever, ever, since the day the communists took over.
Giuliani's Excitement 00:03:32
breanna morello
Mayor Giuliani, thank you for being here, my friend.
We're so excited to have you.
unidentified
I know.
breanna morello
I could talk all day.
unidentified
You're tuned in to the American Journal with your host, Breanna Morello.
Watch it live right now at banned.video.
breanna morello
I'm actually still joined by Mayor River Julian.
unidentified
Yay.
breanna morello
He liked it so much that he's sticking with us for a couple more minutes.
And we're going to be taking your calls in just a few moments.
877-789-2539-877-789-2539 is the number to call if you want to join the show.
And we've got a roundtable of incredible guests as well.
Mel Kay joining the show as well.
She's the host of the Mel K show.
Also author of the book, Americans Anonymous, which I highly recommend you go get right now over on Amazon.
And you can also follow her on X. Mel K show is where you do just that.
We also have Hunter Gaylor also here.
He's the founder of Spencer Pruitt, and he's also America First Strategist.
And so this is why everything's working out well over here right now because we're all America first in the room right now.
And so this is a big one.
But Mayor, we have you here right now.
And we wanted to dive into some calls in just a second, but you guys are kind of going back and forth.
I know you were hot on a lot of topics that you want to keep talking about.
rudy giuliani
Well, I thought you said, you know, InfoWars is big on conspiracy theories.
I have to, I have to contribute to the conspiracy theory about the attempted assassinations of President Trump.
First of all, the fact that there were two is extremely suspicious.
unidentified
Yes.
rudy giuliani
The fact that each one of these guys, particularly the second guy, made all kinds of foreign trips, just like Leo Javi Oswald did.
unidentified
Exactly.
rudy giuliani
I mean, you want me to believe that he went to Russia and Cuba before he killed Kennedy and there was no involvement of communism?
I don't know.
Hard to believe.
This guy went to Ukraine, and there are plenty of reasons why certain Ukrainians would want to make sure he wasn't president.
Right.
Never even run down.
We don't even get like the way you're supposed to approach an investigation is common sense.
Whatever makes sense is probably true.
melody krell
Yeah.
rudy giuliani
Then disprove it.
Try to prove it or disprove it.
And when you've run those down and you've disproven it, then you've done your job.
They don't even try.
They haven't even tried it.
unidentified
Right.
rudy giuliani
I can't imagine they sent people to Ukraine, found out he talked.
I mean, I would have sent a boatload of agents to Ukraine.
melody krell
They didn't want to try.
And the most disappointing thing, I think, about all of it is that they almost did kill Donald Trump on live TV in front of the world.
They wanted to.
And the first thing.
Just a, but imagine had that happened.
unidentified
Okay.
melody krell
I mean, we are talking about mass trauma of the entire country at a time when we're already in chaos.
So again, not investigating it doesn't lead to whoever planned that.
And we're not getting to who the criminals are.
Well, we get this periphery investigation.
Somebody approved that.
breanna morello
Yeah.
melody krell
I had them shot on live TV because why was CNN there?
It was the only one that they were at filming live that day in Butler, Pennsylvania.
And I mean, but for the grace of God, did that not happen?
But imagine what would have happened to this country.
hunter gaylor
No, but look at what happened on that point, right?
And the mayor's a thousand percent correct because you have a guy in New York, by the way, that shoots a healthcare CEO and he's all over the news.
And he's like, you know, the country is glorified.
And they're glorifying him.
And yet we know nothing about a former president that's running for president.
And we have Secret Service Intel agencies, the NSA, and we have nothing.
Periphery Investigation Revealed 00:06:01
breanna morello
Well, that's crazy, too.
I also was the one that released the Thomas Crook detailed report on his social media following.
It was me, Tucker, and Miranda Devine who got that.
And sadly, our FBI, which is really disappointing, wouldn't give us comment on it before we release it.
Then when we release it, they called it fake media reporting, even though it was all factually true.
And it's really discouraging.
Before we jump in on that, though, Savage Dog is on the line right now.
He calls in from Georgia and he's one of our most loyal callers.
So I wanted to get him in on this because he wants to also talk about prosecutions as well.
Savage Dog, welcome back to the show.
It's always an honor to have you on.
You're here with the whole team.
So welcome.
joshua in georgia
Yes, ma'am.
Thank you.
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.
breanna morello
Good morning.
joshua in georgia
A question, and I'm glad you stayed around there, Mr. Mayor.
You know, we got Al Capone on tax evasion.
The whole country's screaming, you know, well, the correct thank you people are screaming for sedition and treason and whatnot for, you know, for tongue-tied.
Waltz, you know, everybody going, everything going on in Minnesota.
Well, we got a clear-cut case of racketeering and fraud.
If you, and, you know, everybody, everybody thinks that, you know, the prosecution method is go after the low level, they'll dime out the high level.
Well, what if we kick in the doors of all the high level for racketeering and they start diming out the low level?
Not only will that cease the money immediately to all these protesters, but you could get a whole, like, like think of the Batman scene where, you know, all the mobsters are in the courtroom at the same time.
You know, something like that.
What is your take on that, sir?
rudy giuliani
Well, it's a complex question.
The reality is that walls should be investigated with a task force.
And the first thing I would want investigated, and I'd be happy to volunteer to do it, is his connections to Red China.
unidentified
Yeah.
rudy giuliani
Because I think it explains everything.
Since he hasn't answered any of the questions about it, I feel it's appropriate for me to assume that he's a red Chinese agent for the safety of my country.
unidentified
Right.
rudy giuliani
I mean, he hasn't answered the basic questions like, why did you go there right after college?
Why did you remain there for a year and a half?
What did they teach you?
When you came back and you established two businesses, two businesses, who was funding it?
unidentified
Right.
rudy giuliani
Were the Chinese funding it?
You took kids there and now there's a discrepancy.
He says he went 30 times.
His campaign says he went 15.
The big difference between 50.
melody krell
Yes, there is.
unidentified
Right.
melody krell
Yeah.
rudy giuliani
Okay.
What were these 50 kids taught?
And were you allowed to teach them anything you wanted?
Of course not.
melody krell
No way.
rudy giuliani
So I got one description of it from people who investigated it.
And they said, well, he was just limited on certain things, but he was not allowed to discuss Taiwan and he was not allowed to discuss the elimination of the Uger people or the forced taking of organs from Christians in Falun Gong.
I said, well, by the time you finish that and they come back to America, they come back to America with the same ideas that he's promulgating, that China is a moral force, as he said just two years ago.
That's brainwashing.
unidentified
I know.
rudy giuliani
So he's brainwashed some uncalculable number of American kids in hating America.
melody krell
Right.
The other part is that.
rudy giuliani
He's doing as a governor, almost vice president.
And isn't that why?
So I think these things that are going on in Minneapolis, which are worse than any place as they all start there, is part of his being a Marxist.
And Marx tells you you got to start.
You want to take over a country?
Create chaos.
Break down all moral barriers and create chaos.
melody krell
And question institutions, delegitimize.
rudy giuliani
I mean, this is what we do.
He's made Minnesota the mutilate your body capital of the world.
A 14-year-old boy or girl can go there, ask to be mutilated, and they will not tell the parents.
I don't know.
I think you should probably get capital punishment for that.
Finally, take a look at the flag of Minnesota.
melody krell
Oh, right.
They're changing it to like the stars.
rudy giuliani
They changed it.
melody krell
Yeah, they did.
breanna morello
Officially did.
rudy giuliani
The old flag.
melody krell
It's not the ultimate flag that's changed either.
rudy giuliani
It's like two, two, three years ago and forever, the flag of Minnesota, if I recall correctly, it was sort of red and orange or something like that.
breanna morello
Yeah, we got the video.
rudy giuliani
Now it's completely blue and it looks exactly like the Somalia.
breanna morello
This is the moment when he actually did it.
And keep in mind, too, I believe the population in Minnesota is around 6 million and it's only about 100,000 Somalians.
hunter gaylor
So let me ask you a question.
rudy giuliani
That could be the flag of Somalia.
Yeah.
hunter gaylor
This is even the star.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How much was, do we know the official number now of the daycare?
It's in the billions.
breanna morello
The fraud nets.
Oh, wait, no.
melody krell
They have 9 billion, but it looks like it might go up to about 18 billion.
And the people of Minnesota should be furious.
hunter gaylor
So my question is, is how much is he making off that?
unidentified
Right.
melody krell
I'm sure plenty.
I mean, but that's because you're governor.
breanna morello
But we've got the ability to what's on his radar.
melody krell
We have the warrantless surveillance 702.
We have the NSA.
This is a national security issue going on.
rudy giuliani
We should be able to answer the question, to what extent was he involved?
He clearly was, if you want to give him the best explanation possible, he clearly was the most incompetent governor in the history of the world to have such a big thing going on underneath him and he didn't know it.
unidentified
Yeah.
melody krell
But do you want to hear something that happened yesterday?
Eric Holder, who of course turned the Justice Department into an ideologically aligned, you know, weaponized system in 2010, that book, Injustice, came out about what Eric Holder was doing back then about voting and everything else.
rudy giuliani
100%.
melody krell
Well, I'll tell you what, Eric Holder was on with Jensaki last night and talking about how he vetted Waltz for Kamala Harris as the VP.
National Security Oversight 00:03:54
melody krell
And he said that he chose him because he was the only one that had the infrastructure.
And I thought, what infrastructure?
unidentified
Yeah.
melody krell
And he said weird word to use.
And then we think back, is it a coincidence that George, I call it Operation George Floyd, was in that same neighborhood, was with that same thing, and they defunded that police.
unidentified
Yeah.
rudy giuliani
And also, I've had several people, sources in Minneapolis tell me, like at the beginning, when they were saying a lot of outsiders are coming in to do this, they said, no, no, they're wrong.
unidentified
Right.
rudy giuliani
They don't need outsiders here.
That might be necessary.
Even in Chicago, it might be necessary.
Even in New York, it might be necessary.
Here, they have a built-in infrastructure.
unidentified
Yes.
rudy giuliani
And if anything, they'll get a couple of advisors to come in, but they don't need ground troops.
And that shooting that we're looking at is a rearrest.
melody krell
Yes.
rudy giuliani
It's a process.
Rearrest.
They teach them how to distract agents so that the guy can escape.
melody krell
And that's exactly what they were doing.
hunter gaylor
I saw the report, that post from James O'Keefe on what was going on.
rudy giuliani
100%.
And they've been training them in rearrest now for about four or five years.
And this was an absolute rearrest scenario.
She first distracts them.
Yes.
He then comes theoretically to her defense.
So that takes another agent out.
And that agent is like pushing him back.
So now maybe you started with five agents.
Now you're down to three.
Probably it got interrupted in some way.
There probably was a third one who was going to take out another agent.
And at that point, they lose concentration on the guy that they wanted to arrest who has a record who is a violent pedophile.
The guy runs away.
unidentified
Yeah.
rudy giuliani
They do it all the time.
That's exactly what they were doing now.
You go into a rearrest scenario where you're going to basically obstruct justice.
And it's like, you know, taking a so much more dangerous.
It's like doing a prison escape.
melody krell
Yeah, exactly.
rudy giuliani
And you're carrying a massive firearm with you.
I mean, it's got 91 bullets in it.
He needed 91 bullets to protect himself.
Now, of course, he has a right to bear arms.
He also has to have some responsibility about it.
melody krell
Well, if you've seen Liz Collins' great movie, The Fall of Minneapolis, what you see is that everyone that could get out left.
And the entire police force that was there were demonized.
Never forget that Derek Chauvin case was they Ellison settled with the Floyd family before they went to trial.
So everything's been going on there.
This is an extension of that operation.
hunter gaylor
I think the mayor, the mayor's made an interesting point, right?
And I find this comical because Tim, the governor, I don't know how he's smart enough to pull off a scam.
I just think he's just dumped.
melody krell
I think that's true by the Chinese.
rudy giuliani
He's just maybe just like, but you know, he just follows, put A into B and B into C and C into D. That's what the Chinese commers are good at.
unidentified
Yeah.
rudy giuliani
I mean, they're good at memorizing and following a plan.
And I'm telling you, if we could get our hands on a video, James Lake, if we have, if we get our hands on a training video of a rearrest, and I think there are, I think they have to exist.
And you put it next to what they did.
I think you could do point by point.
You could do A, B, C, and then you can see I was interrupted.
breanna morello
Yeah.
Yeah.
And there's also, there was a manual that we just recently saw, thanks to Cam Higby, who found that on the signal chat, where they were orchestrating it and they're training them.
So we know that they are being trained.
It's factually true now.
melody krell
The woman's been going out for years.
breanna morello
That's it right there.
rudy giuliani
The good, the good, the clear cut.
melody krell
Yeah, the sunrise movement, too.
This is not new.
rudy giuliani
The good woman was being a trained operative.
hunter gaylor
Oh, by the way, notice the document.
That's Chat GPT formatting.
Trained Operatives and Pills 00:04:05
breanna morello
Oh, interesting.
rudy giuliani
Of course it is.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
rudy giuliani
Maybe, maybe we should go on chat.
hunter gaylor
Just ask, ask ChatGPT how to have them.
melody krell
How do we get to that?
Ask a fight.
rudy giuliani
That's why people re-arrest.
melody krell
Exactly.
breanna morello
That's interesting.
rudy giuliani
I'll have to have to start fighting with them again.
melody krell
I fight with them all the time.
breanna morello
It's amazing.
melody krell
Why are you so biased?
This is the truth.
And I'll put in a real document.
Be like, oh, I'm sorry.
unidentified
Yeah.
melody krell
They don't know I have the real documents.
breanna morello
Oh, I love that.
Savage Dog, thank you for calling in, my friend.
We appreciate it.
unidentified
Savage Dog.
breanna morello
As always, let's turn to Mad Trucker in Ohio, who would like to talk.
He apparently has some fatigue.
Mad Trucker, welcome to the show.
Do we have our friend Mad Trucker from Ohio going once?
unidentified
Yeah.
breanna morello
His fatigue is.
Welcome to the show.
mad trucker in ohio
Oh, thank you all so much.
And Mayor Giuliani for being there and everybody for being there and saying.
And yeah, I'm just, I'm so fatigued with it.
And I feel like they're stealing a little piece of my humanity from me, the left, that is, because normally, even when something bad happens to someone and maybe they deserved it, maybe they didn't, whatever, I would feel a little bit, you know, some sympathy for them.
But I just, I can't find myself to find any sympathy for these people anymore.
And it makes me even more angry that I feel like they're stealing that from me, that little piece of humanity from me.
rudy giuliani
That's a very interesting observation.
I'm going to tell you, though, and this is sort of more of a Christian observation.
You should.
Some of them are deliberate operatives and evil people.
But a large number of them are just naive, possibly not very well educated, or possibly incorrectly educated.
Or have brainwashed.
melody krell
Right.
Or they've been on drugs since they were kids.
This is very easy to brainwash.
Look, we really have to understand the age group here.
This under 30 is predominantly what this is.
This is also goes in tandem with the drugging of children and this whole change in the LGBTQ and all of that.
breanna morello
They're paid.
rudy giuliani
Some of them are paid.
The good woman, I call her the good woman, Nicole Good.
She, you look at the pictures of her maybe four or five years ago.
She was a normal woman.
melody krell
Yeah.
rudy giuliani
She looked like the girl next door.
melody krell
And she was married.
rudy giuliani
And married with kids.
And all of a sudden, within a two-year period, she becomes a man, I guess, because that's her wife.
unidentified
Right.
Yeah.
rudy giuliani
And she starts dressing and looking like a boy.
So she obviously was going.
And then we refused to.
We refuse to accept the fact that that's mental illness.
melody krell
Yes.
rudy giuliani
I'm sorry.
If you are a man and you start thinking you're a woman, that's the same thing as you start thinking you're George Washington.
It's called paranoid schizophrenia.
It has always been that until these liberals came along and changed.
melody krell
They normalized mental illness and made and elevated people, particularly online.
Online psychological warfare has been the most damaging part of all of this.
But it's not a coincidence that many of these people are educated women under 30, because a lot of this is coming from our college campuses.
You really, you have to.
hunter gaylor
I will tell you this.
And, you know, I have an aunt, right?
And she was a clinical, is a clinical psychologist, right?
And when I was growing up, my dad being a Marine, right?
If I was misbehaving or doing something, he's like, go run around the block, go the lawn, go do like, put yourself to work, right?
And then, but, but, but my aunt would say, oh, just prescribe them this thing.
rudy giuliani
That's that's a problem.
Medicine?
hunter gaylor
Yeah, like antidepressants or ADHD or, you know, if you have some of that became normalized.
A lot of these.
melody krell
People probably grew up on medication they shouldn't have been on.
And it started then.
I've talked to people from MKUltra and about the long game for that program.
hunter gaylor
They just want to give you a pill.
melody krell
That's the problem.
hunter gaylor
Here's a pill.
melody krell
Take a pill.
To be easily manipulated, like in China.
rudy giuliani
I have a pill for, I developed a pill with John Rich.
Pills Over Dialogue 00:02:33
rudy giuliani
I hope John doesn't mind.
We're still in our testing phase.
It's for Trump derangement suggestions.
If you take your pill and you come into our therapy program, we get you over it.
But I'm not allowed to disclose what we do to you in the therapy program.
John will not allow me to.
But he guarantees best lines.
He guarantees that when you come out of it, you're going to be a big Trump fan.
hunter gaylor
Yeah.
rudy giuliani
One way or the other.
melody krell
There's two sides of the Trump derangement syndrome because there's also the other side that will not understand that we need to all unite.
There's something going on right now on the right that is hurting us.
And I believe that that also is an infiltration operation.
But when you see that people like Tucker and Candace and all these people are divided going into the midterms of 2026, that we cannot lose, something is wrong on the right, too.
unidentified
You're right.
hunter gaylor
Well, going into that's wrong.
The Super Bowl is coming up.
And I always say this analogy and I always say it could be the Chinese.
melody krell
I mean, somebody.
hunter gaylor
What I say is what I say on the right after the horrific incident of Charlie Kirk and this infighting that's gone on within the Conservative Party.
I look at it like this.
Y'all can have and be fans of different football teams.
melody krell
Right.
hunter gaylor
You could be a Patriots fan, a New York Jets fan, doesn't matter.
They could be arch rivals and you hate one another, but you love football.
So the Republican Party needs to say, we love America.
melody krell
Yes.
hunter gaylor
Stop the infighting.
We love America.
rudy giuliani
You may have something.
This may not be just natural argument and Socratic dialogue.
This may be inserted.
melody krell
Brainwashing.
rudy giuliani
As a way of inserted on purpose.
melody krell
How did it happen with Maxi Germany?
breanna morello
Yeah.
Hello.
melody krell
I mean, it's not that far from.
rudy giuliani
I think the thing that we don't realize yet, beginning to, China's infiltration was the most brilliant, the most extensive infiltration ever done, one country on another.
I know a lot about the Russian infiltration.
I spent a lot of my career investigating that to the end of the Cold War.
And Russians were nowhere near as good as this.
Nowhere near as they were much easier to find.
It was much more obvious.
You could flip them much easier, turn them.
Plus, the Russians never worked on like second and third generation Russians.
The Chinese will go get some poor guy whose family's been here 100 years and they'll find some connection back in China and arrest him.
And they'll flip the guy, torture him, right here in the United States.
Claims and Bank Accounts 00:03:16
unidentified
I know.
melody krell
And it's been allowed.
And there's no way that that entire Autopen administration, this is another thing.
Everyone that ran that Auto Pen should be held accountable.
And the bottom line is they had people in there.
I mean, this Donalon guy, he was the main China guy for the Biden administration.
We don't even know who was running the Biden administration.
But at the same time, this guy was the head of BlackRock's like entire international investing.
And then he becomes the head China guy under Blinken.
Like, Dory, we should be auditing everyone from 2020 to 2024 when all that money left this country and figuring out where the money went.
Why aren't we going after the money, the money with the NGOs, the money with the money with the Biden money?
rudy giuliani
We never went after the Biden money.
hunter gaylor
No, and the party.
rudy giuliani
So I gave the FBI under Fatso.
Yeah.
You know who Fatso is, right?
And I gave him in January of 2020 the name of a woman who was the chief accountant for Burisma.
And she claimed, so she knew all the books.
She also claimed to have the offshore bank accounts of not only the Bidens, but any number of politicians, American and otherwise.
And she said, and she said, you know, if you, if you get me in the witness protection program, I'll tell you everything.
I'll tell you the truth.
And this was like, to me, like a no-brainer as a former prosecutor, a lot more effective than Fatso.
And because you could find out immediately if she's telling the truth or not, right?
She's going to give you numbers.
melody krell
Right.
rudy giuliani
Numbers don't lie.
You're going to go look at the bank accounts.
melody krell
Yeah.
rudy giuliani
Either the bank accounts are there or she's lying to you.
You figure it out in advance.
I worked out with her lawyer that she would not get into the program until she turned over all the numbers.
We keep her in protective custody.
Numbers were right.
We got a deal.
Numbers wrong.
We just throw you out, baby.
I mean, you're out.
You're gone.
So I left it with them in Pittsburgh.
And they were the assistant U.S. attorneys and the U.S. attorney and the FBI agents there, probably all good guys, were very excited.
And within two days, they're calling back my lawyer, Bob Costello, and they're calling back Ted.
We need this document, that document, this document.
And we feel like, oh, God, we got to get from quickly because we're holding them up.
All of a sudden, about 10 days later, the call stopped.
And then we call again.
And they switched it from Pittsburgh to Philadelphia.
Now we couldn't find it.
melody krell
Yeah.
rudy giuliani
And the woman is hanging out there.
We also told her the woman is in jeopardy of being killed.
melody krell
It's terrible.
rudy giuliani
We eventually had to work with our people to put her in.
But I'm going to tell you, that woman's still available.
And this present FBI hasn't gone to see her.
melody krell
No, and that's a problem.
That's a problem.
Follow the money on all of this.
We can follow the money on all of this.
hunter gaylor
We can follow it on Ukraine.
Ukraine, on everything.
rudy giuliani
We could ask, we should just ask Zelensky to tell us the truth.
unidentified
Yeah.
rudy giuliani
And open up the file.
I've seen a little of the file.
When I snuck into Ukraine, look at what a prosecutor opened the file for me and he started showing me things.
And I was trying to take you.
melody krell
Don't forget the Obama administration overthrew a duly elected government in Ukraine in 2014.
Follow The Money 00:01:14
melody krell
And then basically, Victoria Newland gets up onto the stand and says, basically, they took over the Justice Department, the financial situation, the military, the police.
Newland testified to this in 2015.
rudy giuliani
I mean, Soros, Soros, Soros built the two special prosecutor's office.
And it sounds like, oh, Soros is solving corruption in Eastern Europe.
He would set up the anti-corruption task force.
melody krell
Right.
rudy giuliani
And he'd make them separate, the investigators and the lawyers.
First thing they would do is drop all the cases against Soros' companies.
melody krell
Right.
rudy giuliani
So he would get to do whatever the hell he wanted.
john solomon
Right.
rudy giuliani
And then they go after his enemies.
hunter gaylor
Right.
rudy giuliani
And it's brilliant.
melody krell
And people don't understand.
They think that Soros.
rudy giuliani
That's before he did it to our process.
Right.
That was his model.
Europe for setting up.
If you take a look at 2020, most of those riots take place in Soros-dominated places.
breanna morello
That's the crazy thing.
rudy giuliani
Where the DA is going to let him out.
breanna morello
Yeah.
melody krell
Well, because he already did it in Europe.
He came here to do it here.
breanna morello
All right, guys.
melody krell
Well on its way.
breanna morello
Well, we need more time.
We'll be back.
rudy giuliani
We'll definitely be back.
This is what the American people need.
melody krell
I know.
A real conversation.
breanna morello
The Alex Schoen show is next, America.
melody krell
Oh boy.
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