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kristan t harris
I don't want to see you.
I'm your host, Kriston T. Harris, and we have a great broadcast for you guys today.
Make sure you guys don't go anywhere.
Today's broadcast, we're going to have some guests joining us in the first hour and second hour.
In the first hour, we have Don Vy Jr.
He'll be breaking down the propaganda between Israel and Palestine.
As well, in the second hour, we have top astronomer and a person who worked on top secret government projects, Mark D'Antonio, joining us to talk about the UAP and UFO phenomenon.
And in the third hour, we're going to take your calls.
So you're not going to want to go anywhere on today's broadcast.
Make sure you are here for everything.
If you guys were tuning in yesterday, you would have heard Alex Jones and Rob Dew break down the Nashville shooter.
Some interesting revelations there as the manifesto was released to the public.
And I wanted to bring up some interesting points here because the world is changing that we live in.
In the 1990s, there was an individual named William Cooper who wrote in his book Behold a Pale Horse about basically how the government, through a project called Orion, was Creating a desire in people to basically create mass shootings, to create an anti-gun lobby.
But the truth is, they don't need the government really to do that in military operations anymore.
The education system is now creating activists.
It's wild how the world has changed and how some things are considered hate crimes and others are not.
And the political agenda has gotten quite extreme.
So my question is going to be to you guys today.
Where are you guys in the information war?
A lot of the individuals who started this war with us many years ago Are no longer with us.
The government has censored us.
Almost seven or eight years ago, when the fake news list came out, right?
Remember that? The Russian collusion list.
We were on that list, the rundownlive.com.
That's my show. If you guys don't know who I am, Criston T. Harris.
I was a key witness in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial.
I'm a key protest reporter, and I cover a lot of different subjects.
And today is going to be no different.
We're going to give you a rundown of information that you won't hear anywhere else on the American Journal.
So hang in there.
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Listen, we can't do this broadcast without you guys.
And let's be honest, censorship is ramped up.
The ability to reach people on social media is not there anymore.
And we need to rely on email, your word of mouth, and everything else that is out there.
I'm still in the game 15 years later.
And my question to you, the listener, are you still in the game?
Are you still fighting for liberty and freedom?
Where are you right now in your day-to-day walk?
Every day, you should be tuning into this broadcast.
To be programmed, to be fed information, to plant seeds in the fertile garden of your mind.
When we come back from our commercial break, we're going to be diving in to the future of warfare, the misinformation that is going on around the world, just like the Ukraine-Russia debacle and World War III propaganda.
What is the fake news that's being disseminated both by our government?
Who has the power and the money to gain?
And what is all sides of the narrative?
We're going to have an in-depth talk, an in-depth look with Don Vy Jr.
of the Free Thought Project and also co-host of the Rundown Live.
So don't go anywhere.
When we come back, we're going to talk briefly about the Where you are in this battle before Don joins us.
So don't go anywhere.
We'll see you guys in just a few.
You're listening to the American Journal of I'm your host, Christon D. Harris, host of the Rundown Live, Milwaukee's independent news and talk radio.
I'm filling in for the man, the myth, the legend, Harrison Smith, who has been busy filling in for Owen Troyer.
And it's a blessing to be here today, guys.
I want to mention that today...
We need to ask ourselves and look in the mirror, where are we in this battle against tyranny?
What are you doing to implement change?
And what kind of information are you getting?
Where are you getting your information from?
Matthew 24, 6 states, And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars.
See that ye be not troubled, for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Does that not explain the time we live in?
We have the Ukraine-Russia debacle.
We got Israel and Palestine.
We have China and Taiwan.
It seems like there's a crazy narrative being developed.
Who are the kingmakers?
Aren't all wars banker wars?
Who has the power to gain?
Who has the financial benefit of these systems?
And the future that we're looking at.
Here in America, how does the foreign policy that we involve ourselves in impact the election?
We've got a big election coming up.
A lot of people out there are trying to decide which way they lean, what is real and what is not real, between the two-party system, which quite often is funded by the same multinational corporatists.
You have the World Economic Forum.
Who's propagandizing people it's time to eat the bugs.
And then it seems like we have every distraction in the world pulling us away, dividing us every way.
The education system dividing parents against children, boys against girls.
The system itself, husband against wives, ethnicities against each other.
But in reality, it doesn't matter which government is out there.
It's the people that lose in war.
It doesn't matter what system you look at across the world.
Just about nobody is happy with government.
Ask yourself, why is it that no matter who you talk to, no matter what place on this planet they live, they're not happy with their government?
And who's pulling the strings?
When we break down this next segment coming up with Don Bay Jr., what's happening with Israel and Palestine, we're going to look at the propaganda that's been disseminated.
Do you remember Ukraine was Snake Island?
Or that Miss Ukraine was fighting at the front lines and those were fake pictures?
Or Zelensky was fighting at the front lines?
That was fake information?
It seems like There's a battle for social engineering, for votes, for information, and the garden of your mind.
Are you planting GMO seeds in the garden of your mind?
And growing contaminated information and spreading misinformation?
Or are you rooting out the weeds of logical fallacies and cognitive dissonance?
This world is getting more and more wild and is dissolving into turmoil.
The time to take a stand is now.
The time to support broadcasts like the American Journal or Alex Jones Infowars or the War Room with Owen Troyer is now.
As you have seen over the years, there were a lot of posers.
People disappeared. People who maybe no longer could make a living decided to plug into the system.
That's all part of the filtering process.
But every day, you need to look at yourself in the mirror.
Think of your children. What happens if you don't do anything?
What happens if you don't support this broadcast?
What happens if you don't spread proper information?
Or don't do proper research and just become an echo chamber?
We need to look at the information we're being given from all sides.
We need to look at the giant board game of risk or chess or whatever you want to call it and understand what the next move is in our life.
What elections matter on the local level?
What elections matter on the national level?
What is it we can do to actually implement change in our local communities and prepare for the world that we are about to see in this transhumanist agenda where they now have giant robots that are like Optimus Prime where people get into MechWarrior style that they're going to start selling?
They're saying that it's going to be for mining on the moon, but it looks more like a military operation if you ask me.
They got humanoid robots that are going to be in mass production in less than two years, they're talking about, in the news?
Sounds like something straight out of Demolition Man or Terminator 2.
But that's the world we're heading toward.
Nanobots in the brain by the 2030s, being able to connect to a brain cloud interface.
There's even articles that were in the news in the last couple days saying that they have robots you can now control with a brain chip interface.
Will that be the warfare of the future where you'll be able to just have your nanoparticles in your brain and control drones using your brain?
That sounds like something straight out of Spider-Man 2 where they had the evil villain controlling the drones using holographic technology to make a physical enemy that was attacking a city.
I know that's a little far-fetched, but how far are we away from this technology?
Because it's there.
They're now talking about it.
Mass manufacturing of robotic humans.
We're not far away from humans being able to control them with brain chip interfaces.
You can now play video games just thinking of thought.
They are monitoring your thought.
How are they doing this?
Have you ever wondered? How is it that Facebook and the military and other organizations can monitor your brainwaves and your thoughts and know what you're thinking?
These robots are wild.
That's the future of warfare.
We're not quite there yet.
But these items can also be used for good.
The question is, is what kind of future are we going to shape for ourselves and our children and the world around us?
How long before you just put a bazooka and some weapons on these giant robots and they're fighting the warfare at the front lines?
Drones are already fighting wars for us.
Remember, there is no drone program.
Wasn't that the Obama administration that said there are no drone programs?
Now you can go to Best Buy and buy them.
And it's really easy to jump on the xenophobic train, the tribalist train, support Israel, support Palestine.
But in the end, who is it that really suffers?
I want you to think about it.
As these governments push for war with agendas of globalism, it's the people who suffer.
It's the Ukrainian people who suffer.
It's the Israeli people that suffer.
It's the Palestinian people that suffer.
It's the Russian people that suffer.
As the governments push towards global chaos, And we haven't even gotten China and Taiwan into it.
And what's our government's role?
What's the United States' role?
In Ukraine, we started funding the Azov Battalion, Ukrainian Nazis, and not to mention Israel themselves have funded the Azov Battalion.
Interesting enough, there's articles, you can look them up, they're right on the internet, right on Google for mainstream media sources.
Why is it that they're fighting both sides of a war?
Why is it that big bankers are the ones that always win these wars?
When we come back, one of the best political geo-analytics experts I know, somebody who called the Ukraine debacle, who's done incredible research, and a personal friend of mine, Don Vi Jr., will be joining us.
He's a journalist at the Free Thought Project, and he's also the co-host of the Rundown Live, our broadcast that we do weeknights at 7 p.m.
Central Standard Time. It'll be an interesting conversation.
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We'll be back. You're listening to The American Journal.
kristan t harris
I'm your host, Chris Don T. Harris of The Rundown Live, the rundownlive.com, Milwaukee's number one independent news and talk radio.
You can find us on band.video, follow us there, or on Rumble, as well as anywhere social media is found.
And joining us next is our guest, Don Vi Jr.
Don Vi Jr. is also co-host of my broadcast, The Rundown Live, as well as a top geopolitic analytics expert and journalist.
Welcome to the broadcast, Don.
unidentified
Hi, brother. How you doing?
kristan t harris
I'm glad to be here. Yeah, doing good.
So let's break down this whole Israel-Palestinian debacle that's going on.
You know, I was mentioning earlier, it's the people that seem to suffer whenever there's a war.
The government seem to, a government or big bankers or whoever's funding it seems to benefit and reap the benefits of war.
But let's break down, why is this happening?
What's the history behind it?
unidentified
Right. Well, that's always been the case, hasn't it?
The rich create conflicts, and then it's the poor, the average person that has to suffer from the machinations of megalomaniacal men, as it were.
Unfortunately, what we're witnessing here is a textbook example of a conflict being instigated by the globalist ruling class, and arguably one of the oldest conflicts at that point.
As people know, as you mentioned earlier, all wars are banker's wars.
This is no exception.
If anything, this is one of the most prominent or paramount instances of this occurring.
What people need to understand is that this conflict has been going on for over 100 years since the end of the First World War, facilitated by the preeminent globalists of that time, the British Empire and the Rothschild banking family.
kristan t harris
When we look at these wars, it always seems like the people seem to suffer and everything gets settled through pen and paper after there's a lot of disaster and people have died.
But in this scenario, why is it that we are seeing things progress in the direction they are going between Israel and Palestine?
What really is the boiling point here?
unidentified
Well, to really exemplify that circumstance, there's a little historical context that's necessary, and I'll hit on a couple bullet points.
Far more than I can articulate here, but I do have an article for the Free Thought Project that I wrote some weeks back titled, Why Israel and Palestine Are at War, a historical synopsis.
Perhaps the crew could bring that up on screen for a moment.
And I absolutely encourage all of our listeners and watchers, viewers, to go and read that.
It is a long read. It's about 7,000 words.
But I delineate the entire history of what has been happening in this region for the past century.
It's full of information that anyone who wants to get a grip on this conflict needs to know.
But in brief summary, some points to acknowledge is that We're good to go.
With the help of the Rothschild banking family, we're able to convince the British Empire to partition off this piece of land known as Palestine and begin a Zionist settler colonialist project under the auspices of creating a homeland for the Jewish people.
But they didn't actually care about the Jewish people.
They were more so using them as a scapegoat.
In 1948, the British partition mandate ended and the Zionist colony officially declared its independence, and the illegal settlements thereby began a campaign of expansion and ethnic cleansing of the native inhabitants of that region, the Palestinian people, ultimately pushing them into the regions today that are known as Gaza ultimately pushing them into the regions today that are known as Gaza and the
In 1967, Israel launched a false flag war against Egypt and Syria with the intention of further expanding its territory and ultimately placing the regions of Gaza and the West Bank under a military occupation, which has remained in place ever since and become a focal point for what many have described as an apartheid which has remained in place ever since and become a focal The people of these regions for the past couple of decades have attempted to resist this illegal military occupation.
Of course, they have been labeled as terrorists, much the same as the enemies of the U.S. empire are labeled as terrorists for any of its geostrategic ambitions.
And since 2006, these areas, particularly Gaza, have been literally under siege, blockaded by Israel, cordoned off from the rest of the world, essentially turning Gaza into the world's largest open-air prison, more so for all intents and purposes, a country of Israel.
a concentration camp inhabited by more than 2 million people, over half of them which are children.
kristan t harris
So what kind of impact is this having in our geopolitical situation here right currently where we have Israel and the Palestine conflict?
What do you see as far as the misinformation?
Maybe we can dive into this when we come back to commercial break, but it seems like to me that this conflict has been going on for quite some time.
And what has really stoked it as of recent?
unidentified
Well, as of recent, what has stoked it, obviously, from what can be ascertained by almost anyone watching the mainstream media, although we know that's not necessarily a reliable source, but the October 7 attack that occurred when Hamas launched a massive military operation inside of Israel, they called the attack operation Al-Aqsa Flood.
And one of the most important things that people need to understand about that Israel was given multiple intelligence warnings, not only by Egyptian intelligence, but also our own CIA warned them, hey, we're getting chatter on the line that Hamas is going to perhaps do something, and Israeli intelligence outright ignored this.
There were even Israeli magazines, newspapers, journalists that have covered this.
The Haretz, for example, published a piece acknowledging that the Israeli government was given these warnings and they did not act accordingly, much like we see often with, say, for example, 9-11 in 2001, where there was this forewarning that an attack may occur.
And yet, mysteriously, these governments chose not to act upon this.
Of course, when you understand the history, and I also explain this in my article that we just recently brought up on screen, Hamas is actually a creation of Israel.
There are a number of Israeli officials that have admitted this.
There are documents that were released from WikiLeaks in around about 2010, I believe, that demonstrate Israeli officials wanted to empower Hamas.
And the reason why they essentially created Hamas in much the same way that, say, for example, the United States was responsible for the creation of al-Qaeda with Operation Timber Sycamore during the Carter and the Reagan administrations, funding the Mujahideen, partnering with Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan during the Afghani-Soviet partnering with Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan during the Afghani-Soviet war, ultimately creating al-Qaeda.
And the Taliban, much the same occurred in Israel in the 1980s during the first intifada or uprising, when they decided to back this offshoot from the Muslim Brotherhood, which ultimately became Hamas because they wanted to destabilize the region that they were in.
They wanted to present a challenge to the PLO, the Palestinian Liberation Organization, which was beginning to gain some recognition internationally and actually present a political opposition to Israel when it was becoming recognized, say, by Qatar, by Saudi which was beginning to gain some recognition internationally and actually present a political opposition to Israel when And so they needed to really undercut the PLO and its efforts to create a Palestinian state as it were.
And so that's what led to the creation of Hamas.
kristan t harris
Don, hang in there.
We're going to commercial break.
Don't go anywhere. We'll be back with more information.
You're listening to the American Journal.
I'm your host, Chris Don T. Harris.
Don Vai Jr. is our guest.
See you around the bend.
unidentified
Don Byte Jr.
kristan t harris
is our guest.
Geopolitical analytics expert, as well as co-host of The Rundown Live and journalist at the Freethought Project.
We've been diving into the Palestinian-Israel debacle, and from what we gather here, it's very possible.
I was thinking during the break that maybe Israel allowed Hamas to attack, knowing that it was possible that they would attack, in order to have justification to go to war, just much like we did during 9-11.
I know you equated that there's similarities there.
And now we're getting this crazy blitz of information, including propaganda.
But before we do that, what are your thoughts on that?
Do you think Israel could have allowed this attack?
unidentified
Right, right. First of all, I did want to issue a brief correction to myself from the last segment.
I brought up Operation Timber Sycamore.
I had meant to say Operation Cyclone.
That was the program during the Carter and the Reagan administration in which they funded, armed, and trained the Mujahideen and Osama bin Laden.
Timber Sycamore, as it were, was a program that occurred very similar to Cyclone in the late 2000s, the early 2010s, in which they were arming, funding and training the moderate rebels, as it were, in Iraq and Syria, which led to the creation of ISIS, which the U.S. continued to covertly facilitate, which led to the creation of ISIS, which the U.S. continued to As people can imagine, all of these covert operations and names and what have you, it's easy to get them mixed up in your brain.
Well, there's a lot to unpack.
Yeah, it's probably more apropos to even bring up Timber Sycamore because Israel is now taken to saying, oh, Hamas is ISIS, which, I mean, I guess if you look at it one way, you could say that they are because they're both created by the Western imperial bloc.
But when it comes to this attack being allowed to occur...
We actually have documents that were released from WikiLeaks, I believe, roundabouts 2010.
I know recently they've been, their Twitter page and whatnot, has been resharing these documents just to remind people that there were Israeli officials, even in 2006, that were desiring for Hamas to take over Gaza.
And, you know, this ended up occurring in 2006.
There was a massive A civil war that broke out in that region between Fatah, which was the main facets of the PLO, the Palestinian Liberation Organization, and Hamas for the control of the region.
And there were Israeli officials on record saying, well, we would love for Hamas to take control of Gaza because Hamas is a terrorist organization.
Then the people of Gaza have no excuse.
The people of Gaza...
We can treat them as the enemy.
We can go into this region and we can essentially treat everyone as the enemy if they're ruled by Hamas.
And so that's exactly what Israel got when they allowed them to take over.
And even recently, The Times of Israel, Haaretz, these Israeli publications have pointed out the fact that Netanyahu specifically has time and again allowed for the funneling of funds to go to Hamas from neighboring these Israeli publications have pointed out the fact that Netanyahu specifically has time and again allowed for the funneling of funds
But if you're funneling money to Hamas, you are by default facilitating that group.
And so it's very difficult to pretend as if Netanyahu and his camp did not know what they were doing.
I said when this thing first kicked off, and I said last couple years ago in 2021 when they were launching their assaults against the Palestinian people during Ramadan, attacking peaceful worshippers at Al-Aqsa Mosque, that they have been attempting to essentially – that they have been attempting to essentially – Create or manufacture the consent for what is a genocide.
And unfortunately, we are seeing that unfold now.
Upwards of 10,000 people have already been killed.
A vast chunk of them are children.
And they're essentially saying that all the actions of Hamas justify these atrocities that are being carried out.
But, you know, there are documents that have been put out by Israeli think tanks, and this has been covered by the gray zone, that show that they already had these plans.
And it's also been covered by Mint Press News, showing that they already had these plans, that they wanted to push out the people of Gaza, either push them into the Sinai and basically force Egypt to accept them as refugees or cleanse them completely, killing off as many as possible.
And even for allowing this attack to occur, there was another report from the gray zone, which I shared with the production crew, that perhaps they can show that on October 7th, there were actually testimony from Israelis inside Israel that said it was the Israeli there were actually testimony from Israelis inside Israel that said it was the Israeli military that was partially responsible for killing Israeli civilians with missiles, with helicopters.
They killed their own people, and these are testimonies from the We're good to go.
kristan t harris
It seems like the people always seem to lose whenever there's these types of debacles and conflicts going on.
So as far as the propaganda goes, what kind of misinformation are we all seeing on the ground?
We're seeing here where they're alleging that Hamas is responsible for a debacle, but yet Israel is shelling their own people.
And we've seen that in America where we droned and killed our own citizens before during the Obama administration, and I'm sure it won't be the last time.
But when we dive into the misinformation that's being propagandized right now, what's going on and why is it being slighted in that way, do you believe?
unidentified
Well, obviously, you know, most wars are driven by propaganda.
You know, there hasn't really been an honest war in many, many decades, essentially anywhere around the world.
I mean, then, of course, you know, who could say that any war is an honest war?
You can go back in ancient times and, you know, it's all powerful men essentially perpetuating atrocities for their own gain, you know, for either financial or resources or something of that nature.
But when it comes to this particular instance, when we have all of this propaganda that is being flooded around, there's actually a fantastic report by The Last American Vagabond that goes into discussing this.
It's actually a two-part series.
Where, you know, they talk about the fact that Israel has claimed that there were, you know, beheaded babies, there were, you know, raped women, and then Hamas carried out all of these sort of attacks.
And, you know, the report was authored by Robert Inlakesh, Robert Inlakesh, who has been doing a fantastic job reporting this.
He's lost family over there.
You know, a member of his family was killed by Israeli forces.
But, you know, he has been doing some of the most objective work on this despite that.
And, you know, it's essentially they've put forward these claims, and these claims have been touted by the Biden administration.
They've been touted by the Pentagon officials and the, you know, mainstream media stenographers that essentially just report whatever the State Department tells them to report without any sort of evidence to it.
And so The Last American Vagabond has done a great job of sort of breaking this down as It has Mint Press News, as a matter of fact.
They've also had a number of good pieces demonstrating the propaganda and the things of that nature.
And I know that Project Censored actually produced a really good piece titled How Big Media Facilitate Israeli War Crimes on Gaza that also go into exemplifying the ways in which these stories and narratives are sort of twisted to fit a specific kind of purview in order to justify this Mass assault against civilians.
And, you know, unfortunately, they've put forward this narrative even that, you know, there's no differentiation between Hamas and the civilians because they supported Hamas.
Well, you know, that's like saying, well, there's no differentiation between all the American people and Joe Biden because, you know, some portion of the country, no matter how small it may have been, voted for Joe Biden and therefore his atrocities are all of our responsibility.
And it's an absolute nonsense of a narrative.
kristan t harris
Yeah, the robot Joe Biden out there, Don.
But when we come back, we're going to get your forecast in the future.
Where do you see this all heading and breaking down the future, the potential of World War III and a whole bunch more?
I apologize for interjecting there, but there'll be more from Don Vai Jr.
when we come back. You're listening to The American Journal.
I'm your host, Kriston T. Harris.
unidentified
You're listening to the American Journal.
kristan t harris
I'm your host, Chris Don T. Harris, filling in for Harrison Smith.
And our guest currently is Don Valle Jr.
And we're diving into our forecast in the future of what is going on with Israel and Palestine.
What is going on potentially.
Don, what do you see happening in the near future?
You know, there's a lot of conspiratorial stuff out there, you know, Albert Pike and three world wars, and then you have, what was it, Legions of Satan, which was also Jonathan Williams talking about the potential of globalization, We have the United Nations, which nobody seems to vote for representation for their country.
However, they've been trying to push for peace, allegedly.
America has been playing an interesting part in preventing that.
unidentified
Right, yeah. There is a piece out of Geopolitical Economy by Ben Norton which covers the fact that the United States has actually blocked – at the time, it was three peace resolutions that were put forward in – We're good to go.
The State Department, there was a report by Dave DeCamp out of Antiwar.com a couple weeks back.
I don't have it here with me, but surely, you know, viewers can, you know, look it up on their own.
There was a report from Antiwar.com that the State Department I think?
Less death and destruction.
We have people like the National Security Advisor for the Biden administration getting up there and saying that civilian deaths in Gaza will continue because, well, this is just the nature of war.
But it is a war that they are deliberately prolonging, much the same way they've done with the U.S.-NATO proxy war in Ukraine.
And, you know, wars are, you know, they're big business.
And that's the sad truth of it.
You know, ever since the October 7 attack, the military-industrial complex has been having a heyday.
You know, the stock prices have gone through the roof for Raytheon Technologies, Lockheed Martin.
They are making billions of dollars off of this conflict.
And, you know, unfortunately, unless something can can really happen, thankfully, we are seeing some pushback from the international community and we are seeing massive uprisings of people around the world against this thing.
I wrote another article just recently how mostly the media is silent as millions of people around the world are rising up and protesting and, you know, speaking out against these Israeli crimes, you know, in favor of, you know, supporting the liberation of the Palestinian people.
And so hopefully that pushback will result in something happening.
Hopefully there can be some kind of, you know, diplomatic pushback because it's far beyond time for Israel to be held accountable for the numerous crimes against humanity that it has committed these past, you know, several decades.
But of course, the United States has again been involved by essentially putting shackles on the international criminal courts and their capabilities of really attempting to rein things in.
So Hopefully something like that happens diplomatically where this loss of civilian life stops, but ultimately who knows where the future is going to go because, of course, the empire loves war, and as we mentioned earlier, no matter who you vote in office, it just seems like the wheel keeps on turning.
kristan t harris
Well, and it's interesting.
So both with Ukraine, they seem to want to block any kind of peace resolution.
And now we're seeing that with the Israel-Palestine conflict.
Why do you think that there's such a push to block this?
Is it the military-industrial complex, trying to make more money?
Are we looking at a land grab?
We're looking at the expansion and leaning towards a World War III. And what's the benefit of America preventing this?
Any kind of peace resolution.
unidentified
Well, I mean, you know, there are multiple facets to the situation, as there typically are.
Very rarely are these things one-dimensional.
So on the Israeli side, we have the Netanyahu administration, who has very openly used incredibly genocidal language and published white papers from think tanks and whatnot, indicating that they do want to continue this ethnic cleansing, that they want to seize this land, essentially expand the Greater Israel Project on the American side.
Surely Sleepy Joe Biden is enjoying the fact that wars are great for presidents to stay in office.
Anytime that you need a little bit of leverage for an election, it's always great to lean into the war machine.
And we're certainly seeing that take place.
As I mentioned, the military industrial complex, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, they are making boatloads of cash off of this.
And just globally, when it comes to the more seedy aspect of things, the deep state, the globalists who sort of manipulate these things to occur, conflict is, warfare is one of the most preeminent ways in which they attempt to depopulate the planet.
We know that they have this agenda for global depopulation in their attempt to establish a new world order.
And wars, are great for that, too.
So, you know, when it comes to a lot of these facets, you know, there's a lot of things at play that, you know, these individuals in power would certainly be behooved to attempt to stop peace.
kristan t harris
Well, and that's just it.
I It's funny how they're coming for our Second Amendment rights and the guns here within America, but we're the number one gun dealer in the world.
And when it comes to wars, we provide a lot of the screws and bolts used in these wars.
But yet every mass shooter who's on, you know, big pharma pills and has the idea to shoot up their local school.
The first, you know, blowback is we got to come for the guns here in America.
They want to disarm the American public while arming the rest of the world.
And I remember when Jesse the Body Ventura many years ago, he's like, well, if you're going to ban the guns, we should start with, you know, the government and the bodyguards and the military and everything else.
And then maybe when nobody else has guns, I'd be OK with it.
I'm telling you, the Second Amendment is there for us to protect ourselves from the encroachment of government altogether.
Also, it's your right to protect you and your family.
I can tell you as a protest reporter during the Kenosha unrest, the police weren't coming to save you.
The police were just protecting federal buildings while they were burning down millions of dollars of property, and people had their guns ready in Kenosha.
I'm telling you that it is your right to bear arms and it is your right to protect yourself.
And the government's going to come for that every chance they get.
That's the one thing America has to prevent these multinational corporatists from taking over this country and stand up and take this country back if we need to.
Now, I'm hoping we can do that diplomatically, peacefully, through the vote.
Hopefully we can change the way the elections are done through maybe blockchain voting, preventing election fraud through blockchain voting, ranked choice voting.
There's a lot of solutions that our government can turn to, but yet it seems like the system is rigged.
It's rigged from the inside out.
We saw it in 2012 with Ron Paul in 2011, excuse me, saw it in 2016 in the Democrat Party in 2015, excuse me.
And then we saw it again with Donald Trump here just recently.
It seems like there is somebody trying to play kingmaker.
And it seems like the credibility of rigging the system for the military-industrial complex seems to be a big, big go to.
Now, I'm not sure how exactly it's done, but I can tell you right now, they're making money off this war.
And Don, I wanted to give you a second to plug your stuff.
Where can people find out more about you?
And obviously, we do the Rundown Live weeknights out of Milwaukee, Wisconsin here, Milwaukee's Independent News and Doc Radio.
But also, where can they find out more about you and your articles?
unidentified
Well, if people want to follow me, they can definitely follow me on Twitter.
I know that the crew has had my Twitter page up there, and it's right there, at Don Viajr, D-O-N-V-I-A-J-R. If you would prefer something a little more, you know, not encroached upon by censorship, you can follow me on Telegram.
In my Twitter bio, there is a link to my link tree where all of my socials are linked, so you can use that to navigate your way to Telegram.
My Telegram channel is Break the Matrix.
That's sort of a reporting channel page that I have had since about 2015, since I started my journey as a journalist.
And, you know, follow me on The Free Thought Project.
You know, just go to thefreethoughtproject.com, bookmark it if you'd like to, you know, support us, buy some merch or donate, something like that.
But that's mostly where I put my writing, and either that or on my...
kristan t harris
Thanks for joining us.
I appreciate you. It was great to have you on.
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You're listening to the American Journal.
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I'm your host, Kristan T. Harris.
From The Rundown Live, the rundownlive.com.
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We post stuff there often, also the rundownlive.com.
And on the second hour, we're going to be diving in to UFOs and UAPs.
And it's an interesting story.
I got to tell you, I used to bat my eyes at the idea of UFOs.
Back in the day, I used to listen to some of these Hour of the Time episodes with the Godfather or conspiracy, as they call him, William Cooper.
And I'd be like, I'm skipping those episodes.
I'm not going to even give it a time of day, little green men, little gray men.
To be honest, I didn't really give it a fair shake.
And about, it was like 2016, I was giving a presentation at the University of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, on giant human skeletons, because we have effigy mounds and there's indigenous people of great height, between 7 and 12 feet.
And we're talking hundreds of bodies found of these heights.
And at the end of the presentation, a lady came up to me, and her name was Chase Kletchke.
She's a former master instructor, master trainer of the Department of Defense.
And she asked me, have you ever looked into the UFO phenomenon?
And I kind of chuckled at it, and then she introduced who she was.
And she published a very interesting book.
On investigating UFO phenomenon, she gave me a copy.
We ended up going to lunch, and I took her to the Astellan Pyramid Mounds, and we had a discussion about UFOs.
And I still kind of stayed away from the subject.
I kind of didn't want to investigate it.
It had a bad taboo about it.
And, you know, my gut instinct was it wasn't time.
A couple years later, I filed a Freedom of Information Act request on the murder of William Cooper.
I got back 300 pages of documents from the FBI. And the reason why I'm bringing that up is because of that FOIA I filed, somebody looked me up whose father used to be Secret Service for President Bush and sent me an indictment by William Cooper that was mailed out after his murder by law enforcement for tax evasion in 2001.
And it was the indictment of an organization known as MJ-12.
And this indictment had a lot of claims in it, and I have not published it yet, because it hasn't been the right time.
But as I was reading over it, in the last couple years, the picture that Cooper painted, the information that he presented, whether his research was accurate or not, seemed to start to come true, seemed to become accurate.
And I started to ask myself, why shouldn't I research them?
So one of these individuals who I happen to take liking to, his name is Mark D'Antonio.
He's a contributor at the Huffington Post, as well as he's got his own show that he does, Sky Tour, live stream, where he does astronomy.
He's a top astronomer. He's worked on top secret government programs.
And we started discussing...
And I started to ask, well, you know, could these just be government aircraft?
Is that really the UFO phenomenon?
Because I find it difficult to believe that alien species would be visiting this planet just to, you know, take DNA samples or cattle mutilation.
A lot of people have been paying attention to the Tucker Carlson cattle mutilation documentary.
But when we come back, A very reputable scientist, a very intelligent man who's going to also break down how anti-gravity technology would work using KK Gravitons and other things, will be joining us, Mark D'Antonio.
He's been seen on History Channel, Discovery, and many other platforms.
His show, Sky Tour, goes into the depth of the galaxies and planets and And we'll see what he has to say and why he has interest in this whole UAP phenomenon.
Why is it the government is pushing this right now?
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Mark D'Antonio is the chief video analyst for the largest UFO database.
He's worked on top-secret government programs, and he's a top astronomer.
Mark D'Antonio, welcome to the broadcast.
American Journal, how are you doing, man?
marc dantonio
Hey, Criston. How you doing, bro?
kristan t harris
Yeah, it's been a while.
It's been a while. So there's a lot of listeners out there that have heard of UFOs and UAPs.
The government's really, you know, advertising this.
They're having hearings and so on.
But before we dive into all the specifics, how the heck does an astronomer, a scientist, get involved in In the UFO phenomenon.
And not only that, you're the say-all on what is a legitimate UFO video and what is not, and deciphering what is real and what is not.
And we can dive into those statistics a little later.
But what's your story?
How does this start out?
marc dantonio
It started when I was nine years old.
And I looked up in the sky and I thought, you know, I see all these stars up there.
And I thought, there's got to be more than just us out there.
And it started me on a journey to the library where I took out books on chemistry as a nine-year-old.
And they looked at me funny like, what's this kid doing with a high school-level book on chemistry at age nine?
And I actually understood some of it.
Not all of it. I mean, I tried my best.
But, you know, I learned early on how to do experimentation to figure things out and to create different things that you might like.
You know, I created hydrogen gas balloons, and I blew them up in the lot next to my house, okay?
They brought the police every time because it was a resounding boom in the neighborhood.
I was like, whoa, that was a good one, you know?
I learned how to... How to make certain chemicals like, oh, I don't know, gunpowder compounds.
And because I had a chemistry set that had all the materials necessary to make that.
So I ended up creating all these things, learning about science early on.
And I thought, this is really the coolest thing.
You know, the periodic table of the elements was so boring to everyone except me.
Because everything in that periodic table was formed in the heart of a star once.
And so everything you're made of, and every single person in the world, every single chair, table, object in the planet, once had its constituent atoms made in the heart of a star at hundreds of millions of degrees.
I don't know. As a kid, to me, that just seemed like a fascinating story.
So I had to check it out.
I had to learn more about it.
So... I became fascinated with UFOs.
I had a missing time event when I was young.
Actually, in sixth grade, we went to a pond in the town nearby.
And while I was in that pond, I remember getting there in the bus.
And I remember getting off the bus with my little bag lunch.
And next thing I know, I'm getting back on the bus with my little bag lunch, uneaten.
And everybody said, where the heck were you all day?
What? When am I getting What happened?
It was missing time.
And I got home. When I came home, I started to feel really strange.
And I started having convulsions and seizures.
And they had to rush me to the hospital in an ambulance.
And I wasn't really taking it seriously at that time.
Because as the ambulance was going down the road, I said, Hey, can you run the siren?
You know? Oh, sure.
That's what they call it. Yeah, right.
Anyway. And of course, that led to...
The sciences I learned, you know, oceanography was very important because we came from the ocean.
Astronomy was very important.
Around here, actually not so much to me, but, you know, the deep ocean was important and so was space.
And like I said, at age nine, I became on a one-track path and I ended up following through and becoming an astronomer.
And I felt that was probably the best way to go because there's not enough science in the world and there's not enough people that can relay science in a way that's understandable.
And that became my mission.
Relay the complex in a simplified manner that everybody can then participate in.
And then MUFON came along, and in 2008, they asked me to be their chief photo and video analyst.
Now MUFON stands for the Mutual UFO Network.
And when I joined, way back in 1971, two years after it formed, I was 11.
And I began to realize there's a lot of stuff out there that's more interesting than even I knew.
And so that led me down this primrose path of discovery.
And so here you are with a guy who's a science guy and also believes that they're here.
So I had to figure out, how do they get here from way out there?
And that was the thing that was the most perplexing.
In fact, that's the argument that most people use.
How can they get here?
How can they get here across such vast distances?
And my thought was, well, maybe they don't have to travel those vast distances.
And that's what led me down the other path to talk to guys like Bob Schroeder, a good friend of mine.
He wrote a book called Solving the UFO Enigma, which I think is out of print.
But it describes, as best as Bob could, the way in which UFOs could be here.
And I read his book.
I could understand what he was talking about in his physics.
It wasn't written for laypeople, and that's the problem.
It was written for someone who understands Maxwell's equations and other things in physics that you would need to have under your belt.
So what I did was I ended up translating it effectively into a more digestible concept so that everybody could participate in that.
And I've been doing this talk around the country.
I do like 16 different talks, you know, all on science and UFOs and, you know, these type of anomalous things we see in the sky.
And so they're all tied into science because I think that it's a rigorous application of science that's going to actually get us off this planet someday.
So that is something that I've been doing, and when we get to that point, I'll be happy to explain how I think.
There you go. I'm happy to explain how it is that I think they travel and how they get here.
And it's based on Bob Schroeder's work.
Like I said, very smart guy.
And he's not the only one that's on board with this, okay?
There's a lot of physicists out there that say that makes sense.
kristan t harris
So when we're looking at this, and you're involved in MUFON at a young age, how did that progress to where you are today?
marc dantonio
Well, I started as a MUFON field investigator.
In fact, I had that little card in my wallet for years.
And one day I wanted to show it to someone, so I opened up my wallet, and there was the card.
And I opened up the little plastic sleeve and noticed that the card had long since deteriorated.
And all it was was an imprint on the plastic.
So it was kind of funny.
You don't need the card to actually be an investigator.
And so I had started as the investigator, and then I ended up moving...
I ended up being asked to be the chief photo and video analyst back in 2008.
And I did that because, actually they offered that to me because I had broken a case of a hoax that was making ground and getting traction.
And it was actually a complete fabrication.
So I thought that maybe that was something that It should be brought out into the open.
I'm not against UFOs.
I'm not a debunker. I do think they're here.
In fact, I know a methodology we talked about just now that they could be here.
You mentioned it early on.
So there are ways in which they could be here.
So doing what I'm doing now for MUFON, and I speak at conferences all over the world, and so one of the times that it's most fun is when you speak at these Mutual UFO Network Symposiums.
Because the audience are many like-minded people, not scientists, not necessarily scientists, and just ordinary people that just are interested in the subject and want to know.
And, you know, I can't tell somebody something that isn't factual, but I will speculate, you know.
And so speculating about UFOs and the visitation by other life forms takes you down a path of studying the life here on our planet.
And that trip that they make to get here, first of all, what's the motivation for them to be here?
kristan t harris
Mark, hang in there.
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Mark D'Antonio, top astronomer, chief video analyst for MUFON, is our guest. chief video analyst for MUFON, is our guest.
And we've been diving into his credentials and the history here on how he got involved in the idea of UAPs and UFOs.
And as a guy who does a video analyst, there's a lot of people, they think they saw something.
They're out late at night and they see something in the sky.
I know Starlink has probably caused some fake reports, but how many reports do you guys get a month?
And how do you differentiate a fake report from a real report?
And do you actually get real UFO reports?
Everything I see UFO-based is just about fake.
I'm just saying. Even stuff from the government, I'm a little leery on.
And I guess the big question is, how do you differentiate what is real and what is not?
And, you know, how many UFO reports do you guys get monthly?
marc dantonio
Well, to be fair, there's a huge number of UFO. Yeah, and that's what I was saying.
I couldn't understand why that was happening.
I noted it.
Yeah. So, I'm not sure why that's happening, but hey, this is what happens with live radio, right?
So, let's see if we can fix that.
It happened just now for the first time.
So, let's make use of the Echo.
We can sing a song with the Echo or whatever, you know, but let me see what we're doing here.
unidentified
Okay, there we go. Yeah, we got that fixed.
kristan t harris
Thank you guys for the guys at Infowars that got to that promptly.
It happens sometimes. But yeah, definitely, how do we fix, like, first of all, how do you identify a real UFO video from a fake one, and how many of these videos are you guys getting monthly?
marc dantonio
Okay, well, first of all, there are a number of ways people can report UFO, and we have the MUFON case management system, and you can go on board with And go up to MUFON.com, and you can actually report a UFO. You can put it in, and if it has evidence, you can then upload data, photos, video.
And we might get, depending on the state, you might get many reports in a month, and other states may be few.
But remember, it's a worldwide organization, so we're getting reports from all over the world.
And we have chapters in every state.
We have chapters in many countries overseas.
And David McDonald is our international director, and he does a good job of keeping tabs on everything that's going on within MUFON. And so he presides over all that.
And as far as the number, we get a report ourselves as MUFON members and people that work within the organization.
We get reports each month A monthly statistic showing what's going on.
And each state has a different number of reports.
The more populated the area, the more the reports seem to be.
Obviously, that makes sense.
So I know in Southern California, we have a bunch of reports, whereas in northwestern Wyoming, you may have like two or three as opposed to 30 in a month.
Now, the question is how many of these are real?
Well, we have to understand that If we look in the night sky, we're bound to see something we don't understand.
And if everybody was an astronomer, then the reports might drop by 50 to 80 percent.
You don't know, right? Because some of these are meteors, some of these are planets, some of these are satellites.
And the problem is many people see a satellite traveling across the sky, traveling right there through the sky, then all of a sudden it seems Maybe it does, right?
But the only way we know for sure is if they have a video.
And if you see a satellite traveling against the stars like this, and all of a sudden it goes another direction, wow, that's pretty impressive.
Okay, so non-ballistic motion, non-linear motion, things like that that look like an intelligent change to a direction will be very important to us.
And there are certain natural things that can fool you with that.
There are many people that will take out these infrared cameras, shine them in the sky, look in the sky, and they'll see something flying through the sky and darting around in all kinds of odd ways.
Well, that is, in many cases, a bat, a bat flying around distant.
And because of the way they fly, their wings make this blurry kind of flight path.
And so it looks really strange when you see a bat flying through because it kind of looks like it has this aura around it when you're actually seeing the wings.
You know, when you take photographs, sometimes people take these photographs and the photos on their iPhones or other kinds of phones or their Android phones are going to have some kind of, well, a blur to them, right?
And that blur can be mistaken.
And that's one of the problems we have to be careful with, right?
So, in terms of what might be real and what might not be, I would say that we're probably looking at 95 to 98 percent Our knowns, and when I say I have a way of saying it, they capture the ordinary objects in an extraordinary way, because the camera is just a snapshot in time.
Your eyes, however, are a continuous picture.
It's always changing, right?
And so when we have a camera, like an infrared camera attached to an aircraft, and they shoot some object in the sky, we're seeing an infrared object traveling in the sky.
We're not really sure what it is.
Because infrared isn't how we see the world, all right?
And so when we have something that looks like an object traveling against the clouds, and it's an infrared, you know, dark object that looks like it's for, you know, giving off heat, well, that's sort of very exciting, right?
You want to look at that, figure it out.
But it's very important to understand the provenance that is where these things come from.
And so that's another thing that is incredibly important.
Obviously, of late, Starlink has been a major contributor to the sightings.
And so when we see things like that, we have to also educate people.
Well, no, that's Starlink. We know that's Starlink, okay?
And so watching different events in space is actually really, really important.
And so when the Falcon 9 launches, for instance, I get many, many, many videos from people showing this incredible launch plume.
And they can look like spirals.
They can look like fans coming out behind the rocket nozzle.
And it just becomes something that is sort of mundane to me.
But to them, they're very excited about catching something different for the first time.
So it's really important when people see things that we do understand what they are, but they don't, it's very important not to say, you know, dumb things like, well, that was just startling, you silly person.
We would never do that, okay?
Because I think, you know, you want to keep that excitement.
I want people to stay looking up and looking and being excited, not get frustrated.
Understand a little bit at a time so when they do see that thing, It's incredible that they will enjoy it and say, wow, this was something really cool, and they'll know the difference.
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I'm Chris Don T. Harris.
You're listening to the American Journal.
I am filling in for Harrison Smith, and we've been diving into this UAP phenomenon, UFO phenomenon.
Mark D'Antonio is a top astronomer, chief video analyst for MUFON. Who gets the most UFO reports and has the largest database in the world of UFO sightings.
Not only that, NASA has contacted them about trying to access their database, and that's a whole other can of worms to dive into.
But, you know, you've worked on some top secret programs, and I have to ask you, like, what's your experience with that, like, as far as...
Did it contribute to your UFO experience?
Have you seen UFOs personally?
I guess there's a couple of comments there, but I'm going to let you take this, Mark.
marc dantonio
There's a few things that have happened in my lifetime that I just can't explain.
Again, all that stuff keeps bringing me, gravitating me toward the UFO phenomenon and the things that happen to other types of people.
So, for example, I was in my house sleeping, and I woke up at 3.15 in the morning, and I saw the clock, 3.15.
And there was a knocking noise.
It was like, what's this?
1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3.
And it was going on and on at the peak of the roof over my head.
And it wouldn't stop.
And I'm like, what the heck is that?
So I went back to sleep thinking it was a woodpecker that was brain dead because it was a vinyl-sided house.
The next night, same thing, 3.15 a.m.
And there's that noise again.
What's going on? So this time, I got up out of the bed.
And I went over to the window, and when I looked out the window, I got this flash of white light in my face.
And so I froze.
I was like, whoa, what was that?
I was flash-blended, like someone set off a flash.
There's a single-family home, second floor of a cape house.
Well, I went back to bed, and for some reason didn't think anything of it, which is odd.
And then on the third night, okay, this time I woke up and I said, oh no, it must be 3.15 a.m.
again because that was the second night, the first night.
But now I couldn't move my head and I also couldn't move my eyes.
I couldn't move my eyes.
Now, I'm familiar with hypnopompic states and that whole...
In fact, I use that.
I enjoy it. I go there sometimes to zero out.
And sometimes, you know, the thing is, you're always in control of that.
But in this particular case, I wasn't.
Something else was controlling it.
And I felt an external control.
And in my peripheral vision, because I couldn't look over there, I saw something walk into the room.
And I saw something approach me and move something underneath this sinus right here, this left side.
Okay? And it shoved something up there, and then boom, it was morning.
And I was lying in a pool of my own blood on the pillow and couldn't breathe because I was literally submerged in some of my own blood.
So apparently, there must have been a nosebleed or whatever just before I woke up, and it literally filled this little concavity, but I was face down, which is strange.
So I got up after that extremely...
It was a terrifying event, and I did what anyone would do when they have something like that happen.
I forgot about it, got dressed, took a shower, obviously got dressed and went to work.
Now wait, that doesn't make any sense.
Yeah, it was perfectly sensible at the time to me.
And it took me a couple of years to go to a surgeon to look up there and he says, holy cow, you've got something huge up there.
I go, really?
Can we get it out? Yeah.
And I said, well, you know, can these things that you're looking at, can they, like, seed around, like, a splinter that you might get if you're a machinist or something?
Which I wasn't, but...
And he said, oh, yeah, sure, but let's try and get it out.
So they took it out, and it was this big thing that came out of that little tiny hole, and...
It was like, I don't smirchen that you're in total recall.
Get it out and put it out, you know?
Yeah, so it was really strange.
And so they took it out, and my first question was, can I have that?
And he looked at me and said, well, no, not a good idea.
I have to send it to pathology, and they have to do a test to make sure it's completely benign.
And I went, okay.
So I ended up waiting.
He said, call me in a week.
So I waited for a week, and I called him.
And I said, hey, can you let me know what the deal is with this thing?
And he said, well, first I said, hi, it's Mark D'Antonio and the lady on the phone, the receptionist said, oh, wait, the doctor has to talk.
Oh, no. Some kind of strange cancer.
My head's going to fall off. So he gets on the phone and says, hey, just so you know, Mark, that's our Mr.
D'Antonio. He goes, I'm sure it's benign.
Nothing to worry about. Oh, you didn't get the results yet, Doc.
Oh, no. Well, he goes, a lot of throat clearing.
He goes, this is word for word.
This is something that's never happened in 35 years of my practice, but the pathology team down in the pathology lab, they got the sample, but now they can't find it.
It's missing. And I was like, oh.
And I was beginning to, you know, the brain was going, saying, okay, what's going on there?
But instead, I just let it go.
And he said, so it's benign.
I said, oh, okay, well, thank you.
And a few years later, I went back to him and found out when I put that I do special projects for the Navy on my sheet, he came in and said, oh, you know, I just gave up my top secret clearance this year.
I go, what? What, are you operating on top secret nasal polyps?
And he laughed. He goes, no.
It was strange, right?
Well, anyway, he had worked on another project that looked like it was called Project Starfish, that's what I guessed, because they said they sent a nuclear weapon up into space to see if it could affect an enemy satellite in a negative way.
And it was very successful.
And Project Starfish was, in fact, the project to send a nuclear weapon up into the ionosphere and just gauge the effects on the ionosphere.
That's what they told public.
But I think what it was was to see if it could damage a satellite.
So what you see, for instance, if you look it up on Wikipedia, is the public thing.
Yet, I said, doesn't that violate all the SALT treaties ever made?
And he goes, well, that's why we cleared the Pacific for 1,600 miles in every direction.
Oh, that made it okay.
So it's pretty strange. Right?
Right, Kriston? So anyway, so that's an example of something that happened.
There was that missing time.
There was this thing. So it's actually pretty strange.
I couldn't explain it.
No one could explain it.
So I'm between a rock and a hard place as to why this happened.
kristan t harris
Well, you're probably questioning your sanity.
You're questioning your psychology.
Am I not coherent?
Am I not You know, with it, am I losing it?
Am I going nuts? What's really going on here?
As anyone would, especially somebody like you, and I kind of wanted to dive in, maybe when we come back from commercial break here in just a few moments, your involvement in some top secret programs, and then in the final segment, dive into the KK Gravitons, and if you're kind enough, stick around for some callers.
Thank you,
Mark. And you also have a show, Sky Tour Live, that airs where you guys explore the galaxies and you get a lot of great photographs off of Sky Tour.
Fantastic stuff.
It's great to have somebody that's science-minded and not somebody that's out there saying, oh, every UFO sighting is real and I saw this and I saw that.
You're very objective.
When you're looking at these UFO sightings, you said almost 90% of them are explainable through natural occurrences or explainable through, you know, government occurrences.
That's another question we can get into is how many of these are government experimental aircraft?
Could this be governmental experiment aircraft?
Are these, you know, experiences people are seeing government-based?
All that and a whole bunch more.
When we come back, you're listening to the American Journal.
I'm Chris Don, T.E. Harris.
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kristan t harris
I'm your host, Chrisan P. Harris, and our guest is Mark D'Antonio, chief and top astronomer.
He has his own show called Sky Tour, where he travels to other galaxies using a crazy observatory that he's built, amongst other things.
Mark, you've worked on some government programs that are considered classified throughout the years, and I wanted to dive a little into that.
Let's talk about that.
How were you involved in some classified programs?
marc dantonio
Well, one of the things that I remember, you know, and this goes directly into the conflict you can have when you are Mutual UFO Network's Chief Photo and Video Analyst, but you're also a Navy model maker and doing specific engineering prototype models.
One of the problems with that is that you now have to walk two lines.
You can't reveal if you know about a program that's under wraps, but you also want to get answers for the UFO people because that's That's what you're made of, that stuff.
You want to get the answers. But you also have to follow this line.
So I'll give you an example of a problem that happened.
I ended up working on this project, and it was a project where a particular vehicle would leave a missile tube, come to the surface, spread its wings.
A missile tube of a submarine, by the way.
Come to the surface, spread its wings, fly off the surface, go do a reconnaissance mission.
Now, that sounds to me and others like the flying sub from Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, which is a really cool show in the 60s.
Well, science fiction often becomes science fact.
And this was an example of a program where that was exactly what happened.
The difference was the flying sub in the show was manned by two people.
And in this case, this object is unmanned.
So it's a UAV, right?
Now, that UAV was a UAP to the people that watched it flying from the other end of the lake where this was being tested.
And this one person said, wow, what's that?
And he got in his car and drove down the long shoreline, like 10 or 12 miles, to the other side.
And he parked his car and started watching this thing being tested in the sky.
And he took pictures, ch-ch-ch-ch-ch.
I got the pictures. And I looked at it and went, oh my gosh, I know exactly what this is.
Oh boy.
And my first call was to the program office where this was originating from down in Washington, D.C. And I said, hey, you got a guy taking pictures of the birdie.
Okay, and...
This birdie is going to eventually get a lot of attention, and you're going to end up with this one guy going to get his friends, and you'll have not one, but 10, but 20, but 50, maybe 100 photographers taking pictures of what they think is a UFO. And if they actually see this and think it's a UFO, then they're going to throw this out there, and it's going to get out there like you can't believe.
So what do you want to do about it?
And the response was, well, let them think it's a UFO. That works for us.
And I said, actually, it won't.
Now, this is where I'm trying to play the side for the UFO crowd and the people that I like to be working with.
And I said, eventually, one of these photographers will capture your birdie doing something you don't want them to know it can do.
And I heard crickets on the other end of the line.
And then the response was, okay, well, we'll get you a statement.
Just email me a statement.
I'll distribute it to them.
And I predict they'll all go home.
So they sent me a statement that basically saying, this is one of ours.
And when they did publish it and put it out there, the photographers all went home just like I predicted.
And I mean...
Come on, we want to find something that's really cool.
And if it's something that's ours, it's not as cool as if it's something that's theirs.
So that was part of the problem.
So at some point along the way, I was doing some work and I was invited to go on a submarine cruise.
It was the most fun I had getting seasick, Chris Don, to be fair.
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Oh boy. Yeah.
marc dantonio
Yeah, it really was.
Now, on the surface, a submarine rocks and rolls, you know, we're doing this and all that.
But when it gets under the water, it feels like everybody feels now watching this broadcast, unless they're driving, okay?
This calmness, this stillness is what you feel underwater.
A little vibration through your feet as the different temperature water passes by the submarine.
But that's about it.
And to overcome my seasickness, once we're under, I sat next to the sonar guy.
There were four sonar stations.
I sat to the second one from the right hand.
That'll be important, as you'll see.
And then the right hand one was the active one.
So it was one guy doing the sonar, and then next to him was me.
Now, this seat I was in was sort of off the main control room, so it was sort of like a little...
Little cubby hole kind of place.
And I was able to sit there and just start to take deep breaths and get my stomach back and start to say, I'm not going to get sick on the captain's shoes.
I'm supposed to have dinner with him later.
I'm not going to get sick.
No, no, no. And I was really under a lot of pressure not to get sick.
So I sat there and as I was drifting off to sleep, the guy in the sonar Jolts me awake, not because he's talking to me, but because he's calling the con, saying, con sonar, con sonar, fast mover, fast mover.
And I was like, what?
Now I'm jolted awake, thinking, oh no, a torpedo.
I'm going to die out here.
Why did I agree to go on this trip?
Oh, I'm going to die.
I honestly thought it was a torpedo coming in.
And then the executive officer just sort of saunters around the corner and says, what do you got?
I'm thinking to myself, a little more urgency.
There's a torpedo in the water coming toward us.
And he just sort of waits calmly for the sonar guy, and the sonar guy gives him a bearing and a range, and he's facing away from me.
I can't hear him.
Because subs are not quiet on board, by the way.
There's a lot of noise. There's machinery noise.
There's air. You can hear air.
You hear talking.
And so the noise of the sub is sort of a constant din.
So only if someone talks loud will you actually be able to hear them if they're facing away from you.
That's generally what I discovered.
And so I didn't hear the bearing in the range, you know, the angle off the boat and how far away.
But then the executive officer, the XO, said, well, how fast is that moving?
And this kid on the sonar puts his hands out like this to the side, faces the XO and says, several hundred knots, sir, but loud.
It was, several hundred knots, sir!
And I had no idea that several hundred knots...
It could exist underwater.
It certainly can't. An object moving that fast just is not logical because there are all kinds of limitations to a physical object moving that fast underwater.
And later on, when we got back to shore, I was blown away and I was thinking, my gosh, I have to research this unknown, submerged object thing And I started looking into it and saw that, wow, you know, there's a lot of this out there.
And the Russians have been reporting them.
Other navies have been reporting them.
Individual submariners have been reporting them.
I talked to other submariners that reported them and saw them on their sonars.
This is a real phenomenon.
So it was a few years later when I had to do a job for the Joint Chiefs.
And I went down there to deliver my project, and I talked to one of the chiefs one-on-one.
And I was looking at him, and I said to him, sir, and in my mind it was saying, don't ask, don't ask, come on, it's a professional relationship, don't make him uncomfortable, don't say it, but the words were already coming out.
Sir, what can you tell me about the Fast Mover program?
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Ah, I couldn't believe I said that, right?
marc dantonio
And he could have said, you know, I don't know what you're talking about, get out of here or something, but instead, he looked me right in the eye, because we had a working relationship, and he goes, I'm sorry, Mark, I can't talk about that program.
He admitted it's happening.
He admitted it's there, but he couldn't talk about it.
So he said everything by saying nothing.
And so what happened to me at that point was I realized this is real, and I realized and found out later that The Navy is tasked with observing and reporting what they see.
So far, these objects have not made any offensive moves toward us, so we're not going to do anything offensive.
But they're there, and they are real, man.
kristan t harris
Fascinating, Mark. When we come back from break, I want to dive into KK Gravitons.
Could this be government military programs to give false radar reads in order to pretend like we're coming in from the left instead of the right?
They have directed energy weapons that might be able to go on the radar, all these different things.
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And I wanted to dive into, okay, so we got this fast mover program, right?
We have some admittance that there's something going on.
How many of these UFOs could actually just be government aircraft or government experimentation?
marc dantonio
Well, I mean, some of them can be.
For instance, the shoot-down of the spy balloon.
That was a Chinese government project.
The shoot-down over Lake Huron.
of a balloon object that's octagonal with strings hanging down.
The pilot definitely thought it was a balloon, and he wasn't even sure of the shape.
That was an individual launch, probably, of a balloon-to-space project that you can go buy right now for $800 online and launch your own balloon to 120,000 feet and send something up into space and then capture all the data and go explore it.
So some of these things can be explained as of human origin, but I gotta say that something moving several hundred miles an hour underwater is not expected.
No submarine on the planet, no torpedo on the planet can go several hundred miles.
Several, not 700, but several hundred.
The closest thing is the Skval, the Russian steam torpedo.
It makes a laminar flow of steam over the nose of the torpedo, which trails behind it.
So effectively, the torpedo is traveling through this very thin laminar flow of steam around it.
So it could travel about 200 miles an hour underwater.
But it's the loudest thing in the ocean.
And you'd know it, you could hear it for thousands and thousands of miles away.
And it goes only in a straight line.
In this particular case, this trace was almost silent.
It was there and it was gone.
So how does that happen?
Where does that come from?
How could you explain that as something of human origin?
I put it to most people that you simply cannot.
There is, yes, okay.
kristan t harris
I have a question, Mark.
Yeah. Question for you.
How about a directed energy weapon to mimic military maneuvers in order to, if you're going to test something out for the military, you want to fool your own military to make sure it works on your enemies.
Who's to say it can be like a microwave weapon or something that would post some kind of signature on the radar and then it could move real quickly.
Is that a possibility or do you think that's fairly unlikely?
marc dantonio
I think it's fairly unlikely, and the do's, or the directed energy weapons, are a specific nature.
They do a specific thing, and they don't necessarily travel in the water very well, but they do travel through the air.
And, in fact, when you look at directed weapons, you don't see any of them aiming into the water, do you?
Right? So directed energy is going to affect everything between the surface of the water and where it's going in the water.
So you would see this long line of effect that Through the water.
A broad band of effect.
You wouldn't see a spot at some depth that was being affected.
So I don't think they're dues.
kristan t harris
That being said, Mark D'Antonio is our guest.
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Our guest is Mark D'Antonio, top astronomer, scientist, as well as chief video analyst for MUFON, the largest database of UFO sightings.
And I thought it would be interesting with all the propaganda out there.
To kind of bring into reality, you know, how many UFO sightings are there?
What are real UFO sightings?
Are people experiencing things?
Government projects, amongst other things.
But in this segment, before we go to phone lines, I wanted to talk a little bit about is there technology out there to make things anti-gravity?
Because there's a lot of videos of these like TR-3Bs, they call them, that are floating around.
And I think a lot of them are hoaxes.
But if we were hypothetically going to have anti-gravity technology, I saw you give a presentation on something called KK gravitons and how a ship would act if they use such technology in this segment.
Can you break that down for us?
What are KK gravitons and how would spacecraft work if they did travel space?
marc dantonio
Well, think about this.
For any alien species to be here, they have to cross this vast void, right?
Well, that vast void is pretty much impenetrable by any technology we can foresee in the future.
It's going to take a long time to go from one place to another, even using the so-called warp drive.
That Miguel Alcubier came up with in 1994 would create this warp bubble around your ship and thus you could go from here to Alpha Centauri not in the 10 or 11 thousand years it would take us now at the fastest possible speed we've ever traveled but in just say five days.
But that's the nearest star.
Five days to the nearest star is forever when you want to try to have a spacefaring race because the stars that are most interesting to us Might be 30, 40 light-years away, 100 light-years away, 1,000 light-years away.
Well, to get there, we would need something even better than this warp drive.
And so along comes a spider, and this process known as the KK hypothesis, or the Kaluzacline hypothesis, particle hypothesis.
And to be fair about it, calusacline particles are something that the ATLAS program at CERN is investigating because they see these particles as very interesting, and they're looking for the elusive KK graviton.
What is the KK graviton, which you asked about?
Well, this is a particle that you might say is sort of similar to To the gravitons that the Earth is producing that are holding you down to your chair right now.
And you'll say, well, wait a minute. We don't know if there's gravitons.
And you're right. We don't.
But we didn't know that gravity is in the form of a wave either.
And when we look at elementary particles in physics, you can describe all of them in terms of a wave or as a particle.
Electrons can be waves.
Right? They're governed by Schrodinger wave equation.
And they're particles.
And we can describe them both ways.
We describe light as a photon and as a wave.
Okay? A particle and a wave.
All right? Gravity is that weird one.
We couldn't see really what gravity is.
So that means that gravity is probably something a little stranger that we have yet to dive into.
But we found gravity waves, ripples in space-time, moving out from a location where two black holes collided or two neutron stars merged.
We see this ripple, and that's a gravity wave.
So now, where's the gravity particle?
Where's the graviton?
CERN's looking for that.
They're looking for these, as I said, the Atlas Project.
And what are the gravitons relative to ours?
Well, the graviton And if you can generate them, you can surround your spacecraft with them.
Now, why would you do that? Because if we do that, we might find that these gravitons, being so small and so highly gravitationally imbued, would create micro black holes, MBHs. Now, what are micro black holes?
They are tiny, tiny black holes that exist for nanoseconds, and then they evaporate and are gone.
So you'll say, what use are they?
Well, if you keep creating them around your spacecraft, the use you have for them is that they would do things that you need.
For instance, they would absorb and prevent Earth gravitons from getting to your ship.
Wait a minute. That's anti-gravity, effectively.
They is preventing gravity from getting to your ship because those micro black holes are absorbing the Earth gravitons.
And as you keep a supply of them around your ship, They will then allow you to basically not feel Earth's gravity.
And when you do that, another consequence is that they take you out of our four dimensions, X, Y, and Z, all moving through time.
And they'll take you into a fifth dimension, known as the bulk, B-U-L-K. And that fifth dimension, which you know very well because we've talked about it, that is where the universe is so highly warped that the farther you go in, That is to say, the more gravitons, the more KK gravitons you create around your ship, the farther you go into this bulk.
And that means the universe is smaller and smaller and smaller the farther in you go.
It's compressed around you, contracted.
So you could punch out of our four dimensions, go somewhat far into that fifth dimension, and punch back in two light years away, three light years away, You don't even travel the intervening space.
You just go out and back in.
This is why UFOs, in my view, don't even have propulsion systems.
They don't need them.
They just need to pop out from here, go into the bulk for a second, and pop back in two feet ahead of where they were.
Pop out and pop in.
And so they would actually travel by going on a discrete set of popping points.
They'd basically be like points in space to us, from our view.
So, to go 20 feet, they might pop in and out, say, 30 times.
And go just a fraction of that distance each time.
Because that fifth dimension is basically wound within our four dimensions.
So that said, all you have to do is shift your ship into that bulk a little bit and take it out a little bit ahead of where it was.
So you know the entry point and the exit point where you want to go.
So that valuable piece of information is all you need to move your ship.
Okay, from one place to another.
No propulsion, no engines.
You're not thrusting anywhere.
That's a four-dimensional thing.
You're just popping out of here, popping back in somewhere else.
Popping out, popping in, and you do a discrete set of lines.
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, right?
That said, the last most important part is that to create those particles that surround your ship, you need nothing more effectively than a fusion reactor.
Whoa, fusion reactor.
Well, Lawrence Livermore created a sustained fusion reaction for the first time in history.
They did not get more energy out than they put in, no.
But they did create a sustained reaction, and that was valuable.
Meanwhile, across the ocean, CERN is investigating these KK particles because they're interesting.
They're looking for the KK graviton.
So you marry those two things together, and what do you get, Kriston?
You get space travel down the line.
You got it. Isn't that crazy?
kristan t harris
Anti-gravity. And it's easily explained.
And it explains why when people do see these things, they disappear like you're teleporting to the one point in the sky to another.
And then they're going, you know, real quick and they're doing 90 degree turns and almost unhuman like You know, travel patterns across the sky.
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And it's just a fascinating conversation.
It's nice to think about that there might be life out there.
I mean, just think about it. There's trillions of planets out there.
Mathematically, it's got to be likely that life was seeded on this planet.
But not only that, that there's a potential that in the past and in the future, Some kind of life forms have visited this planet and will visit it again.
marc dantonio
I agree with that.
Again, I think that there's probably no doubt in my mind.
I mean, we're carbon-based, bilaterally symmetric, the same on the left and the right.
All forms of life on this planet mostly have some form of symmetry, whether it's bilateral, whether it's radial, pentamorous, like starfish five-sided symmetry.
But that symmetry is something that's kind of like a...
So if you think about it, maybe it didn't happen just here.
Maybe DNA, based on carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus, and sulfur, chomps, maybe DNA is a universal template as well for all lifeforms.
And if that's the case, then most likely...
Life has proliferated elsewhere.
We find the building blocks of life coming to us from meteorites and asteroids.
Does it mean that life was seeded here?
I don't necessarily buy that particularly because we are also really dependent on sodium and sodium chloride, salt, for instance.
The oceans are salty for reasons that large bodies of water will become salty due to the way rain falls and rolls over the land before it collects and pools in a low spot.
And any life forms Storms there might also have salt as a characteristic constituent of their bodies.
And we did when we were in the ocean.
And when we came out of the ocean, we depleted our salt content just a little bit, not as high as in the ocean, the salinity in our bodies, but we are salty.
And this does imply to me that life that originated in the oceans would have to have been seeded before it was ever life that was leaving the ocean.
It had to have been done while it was still in the ocean.
And that seems to be a pretty odd expectation.
So I think that the way it's thought to have been formed on our planet is probably correct.
And I know that there's people that don't believe in evolution the same way.
But remember, evolution is mutation followed by adaptation.
So when creatures mutate because of maybe ultraviolet energy from the sun, damaging their DNA, then they will either adapt or die.
The adapted... Organism is going to probably necessarily be better suited to that environment.
So it's all part of a natural process to me.
So I do think that life on our planet is unique.
We look exactly the way we do because of five major extinction events that occurred here.
But I do think that that uniqueness...
Is something that probably won't play out exactly the same way across different civilizations around the universe.
kristan t harris
All right, Mark, we're going to go to the phone lines here.
I want to take a call from Stuart from Montana, who wants to know about orbs and different orbs observed.
I know that one of the more popular UFOs isn't even aircraft.
It's these glowing orbs, which, I mean, it could be a natural phenomenon.
Oh, okay. Apologize.
I guess we're going to go to the next caller because we've got a lot of people out.
Zero from Colorado wants to know about potential beings inhabiting our oceans.
marc dantonio
That's a really good question.
Thank you. That one is a very sensible question to me because...
kristan t harris
Yeah. Give me a second here, Mark.
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Zero, what do you got for Mark? All right.
So, first off, you guys talk about carbon-based life forms.
Just because humans are carbon-based, It does not mean that all life will be carbon-based.
That's a very human way to think of it.
But nonetheless, our Navy seems to be in charge of these, you know, a big part of managing these UAP UFO sightings.
And you guys mentioned gravitons and pressure and the zero-point energy theory.
You know, did you ever think that these extraterrestrials, they might not be extra at all?
You know, they might be inhabiting the Earth with us.
The terrestrial beings, they might be within our oceans.
Maybe we share this planet with another intelligent species.
Aerodynamics is one thing, but what about aqua dynamics?
marc dantonio
Have we thought about that? Actually, yeah, the graviton hypothesis actually does consider that there would be other species here, but they would actually be in the oceans because they could be in the oceans.
And I'll explain what that means in a second.
But I want to go back to what you said about not necessarily carbon being a carbon-based life.
I know that for a time people thought about silicon-based life.
Now, in the column of the periodic table, the most like atoms are below each other.
So carbon, the next most likely life-bearing one would be silicon directly below it.
But silicon makes very tenacious bonds and it tends to make crystal structures.
For instance, when you're walking on sand, On a beach, you're walking on silicon dioxide, silicon and two oxygens.
Oddly enough, you're walking on mostly gas.
That said, carbon is the fourth most abundant element in the entire universe.
Oxygen is the third. The likelihood that it will be carbon-based life is extremely high.
So that might be something that we have to pursue.
I'm not on the bandwagon that says silicon-based life is a thing because, again, silicon loves to be tenacious.
It doesn't have the variability that carbon does.
Carbon can make and break more bonds than any other element.
It's called the granddaddy of elements for this very reason.
So, most likely being the fourth most abundant, and silicon's way down the list, I would say that life forms would tend to be carbon-based.
So I am a carbon bigot in a way, but only because that is how I believe aliens will find us, because they're also carbon-based and seeking oxygen, because carbon and oxygen are inextricably linked.
So that is why we would see that.
As far as sharing the oceans with another life form, Good question.
It might be possible, and obviously we don't have all the answers.
I certainly don't have all the answers.
I don't pretend to. And I'm open-minded that the science I know now might not be the science I know 10 years from now.
kristan t harris
Yeah, Zero from Colorado.
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Here we go. I want to go back to Stuart from Montana.
Stuart from Montana.
Different orbs photographed.
What do you got for our guest today, Mark D'Antonio?
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Hey, Mark. How are you guys doing this morning?
There's been the different orbs captured.
The one over the Dome of Israel, which they claim is Hamashiach, returned and entered into Lord Royale.
We also have one in Chile that Matt Gaetz, an Expedition Unknown, captured in a maze of tunnels.
And there's also one that was captured on a field cam in Yellowstone, entering Old Faithful.
So with these orbs, these balls of light...
We also have in the Bible and Scripture, John 1, 3, 2, which he describes as the Holy Spirit ascending onto Yahshua, essentially the Hamashiach entering Yahshua's body during his baptism.
So I guess my overall question that related to Stephen Greer, through the C5 contact, he goes through meditation and now to sort of Enlighten yourself to be as if you are a ball of energy.
Could these manifestations of different energy forms be people ourselves entering into a meditation state or is it something more divine in these instances where it could be to residual energy different forms of...
I'm not sure how to explain what that would be.
Just your thoughts, I guess, on that.
marc dantonio
Sorry, that was a lot. Thank you.
I'll say right off the bat that for the Jerusalem UFO, I was tasked with studying that and trying to figure it out and able to discover that it was a hoax.
Okay, I'm sorry to say.
It was actually a hoax perpetrated by film students all in the same class.
And all the different views of it came from different students in the same class.
And an Israeli reporter was able to get to the bottom of that.
So sometimes these things are not what we would call divine.
Sometimes these things are actually very earthly, very human, and hoaxes.
Now, my first question was, this thing came down over the Dome of the Rock.
And you think, well, if it came over the Dome of the Rock...
In a city that barely ever sleeps, why would only a few people on Overlook see it?
And that question begs an answer.
And that was the first one.
So I started pursuing that.
The Israeli reporter got involved, found out it was a film project.
In fact, it was a very simple film project.
That's the kind of thing that, you know, I do this kind of work too.
And I can create something like that in maybe an hour.
So, it's nowadays, okay?
Back when they did, it was probably maybe three hours, okay?
But, this is an example.
Now, as far as other orbs that have been captured...
I reserve the right to say that, and I reserve, in fact, saying that I have a feeling that maybe there could be more to this, but in general, we also have to know and understand how orbs can be created by you without maybe even realizing it.
Now, I'm not saying that every orb is such a thing.
But I am going to say that many of the orb photos and videos I get, these are in fact a bright object that's captured in a flash or in an infrared image where it's glowing brightly.
A lot of them, like I get a lot of images from Popocaté Petal.
In Mexico, and a lot of videos showing strange things, Mount Shasta imagery and so forth, lights.
Some of these lights are incredible.
In fact, I think the MARFA lights in Texas Some of these lights could possibly,
not necessarily, but possibly be explained as geologic oddities, geologic charge manifesting as an electronic or electrical burst of energy.
But we don't have any working theories about that.
It's just a hypothesis to explain in what we understand something that we don't understand.
So I'll say that there's possibilities that in fact these are some of them might be actual objects that we don't yet understand.
kristan t harris
Thanks for your call, Stuart, from Montana.
Mark, real quick, could these be natural phenomenon?
Could this be like, you know, ball lightning, stuff like that?
marc dantonio
Ball lightning is a specific type of lightning that requires a thunderstorm or a thunderhead and a lot of charge traveling through the air.
I've seen ball lightning.
I've actually had one come sputtering through my house when I was a kid.
In fact, it shocked my dad.
But yes, some of these things can be natural.
Geologic lights possibly could be a thing.
Not sure, because we haven't really ever seen Quantified what those could be.
But again, science, it tends to be, works with blinders right until the data comes in.
And those of us who speculate will push the boundaries.
So they could be natural, but they could also be something else.
kristan t harris
Awesome. Next, let's take Sean from Colorado.
The UFO is being discussed.
Sean, what do you have for us today?
Mark D'Antonio. Yeah, hi guys.
unidentified
Can you hear me okay? Yeah, you sound great.
sean in denver
All right. Yeah, I'd just like to say that when it comes to UFOs, what is behind them is the key point that we all need to be talking about, and that's the whole thing that everybody doesn't really want to discuss, and that is the fallen angels from the Bible, these little G-gods that have been here from the very beginning.
And these entities are very real.
Their technology is very real.
That's where we got our technology.
And where they're from, they don't really want you to have that discussion.
You know, these Draco reptilians, these greys, these are very real creatures that came to existence because these fallen angels mated with not just women, but Mated with other species as well, which is why they look the way they look.
So it's important to understand that there's this huge PSYOP that they want you on with guys like Steven Greer, people making you think that these ETs are all peaceful.
That is a complete PSYOP in and of itself.
And Project Bluebeam is kind of used also as a PSYOP as well because They just want you to think it's just going to be a bunch of holograms, when in fact the fallen ones are getting ready to be revealed.
And when the rapture takes place, that's all going to be blamed on an alien abduction.
unidentified
So that's going to be the main event that's going to take place where people get to worship the fallen.
marc dantonio
I don't mean to cut you off on this, okay?
unidentified
But first of all...
marc dantonio
Everything you're saying, you're speaking with authority, that you don't have any proof of any of that.
In fact, none of us have any proof of any of this stuff.
I mean, we have science, and that's it.
Everything you're talking about doesn't have any science to it.
It's just your belief. And that's okay.
Everybody has belief. I believe, too.
But you're going down a path saying, this will happen, this will happen, this is why it's happening.
We can't say that. None of us can.
You know, you can't be authoritarian about things, in my view.
And I apologize if I'm coming down on you a little bit, but I don't think...
kristan t harris
We're heading towards commercial break here, Mark.
We'll come back with more of your calls hanging there, guys.
But interesting, fallen angels seeded this planet.
Who knows? But we'll be back with your calls.
You're listening to the American Journal.
I'm your host, Kriston T. Harris, and Mark D'Antonio is our guest.
unidentified
You're listening to the American Journal.
kristan t harris
I'm Kriston T. Harris of the Rundown Live, Milwaukee's independent news talk radio.
You can find us on the rundownlive.com.
Filling in for Harrison Smith.
Make sure that you guys are tuning in.
The man, the myth, the legend himself, Alex Jones, will be taking the stage here shortly.
But right now, we have the other man, Mark D'Antonio, top astronomer, MUFON video analyst, joining us.
And before we go to take your calls...
I want to give Mark here a chance to tell you guys where you can find him and reach him if you guys have some questions.
marc dantonio
Oh, yeah. Sure.
Actually, you can reach me at SkyTourLive.org.
We have remote observatories around the country, and we show people the universe live in real time on clear nights.
And we have people from all over the world join our streams, and they come in, and we have some really cool crowds.
We have thousands watching sometimes for lunar eclipses.
We're actually one of six groups on the planet that actually caught a meteor strike the moon in the middle of a lunar eclipse.
We saw a bright flash, and only six people on the planet saw it, and we were all lucky enough to see it.
So SkyTourLive.org, right there, is a great site.
It's a portal to SkyTourLiveStream, which is our YouTube channel.
We're on Rumble, Facebook, YouTube, Twitch, and Trovo.
And so we stream sometimes for hours, and people get to see all these different objects that we create.
So it's skytourlive.org, and if you're interested in the military model work that I do, you can find us at fxmodels.com, and there's contact information on there as well to reach us.
So you can reach us via both sites, skytourlive.org, And fxmodels.com.
kristan t harris
That being said, we're going to go ahead and get to the phone lines.
It's pretty interesting.
A lot of people have different concepts.
I know the books of Enoch talk about fallen angels coming here and seeding life.
And when you're a scientist, you've got to work with what we have for evidence.
And yes, it's nice to discuss theories and dive into these, but what do we have evidence of?
And we've got to work with that.
And until evidence is discovered to suggest a theory, that's That's where we're at with a lot of this, and I know Sean was calling and he was talking about this, but I wanted to go to Jay from Kentucky.
Jay from Kentucky, he drives all over the United States, and he sees things.
Jay, what is it that you got for Mark D'Antonio and me?
What can you contribute to this conversation?
unidentified
Well, I'm not a scientist.
I'm rocking the Trump 2024 Never Surrender shirt, and I'm looking forward to breaking into my conspiracy bourbon.
Just wanted to Let the Infowar people know that that stuff is still out there and good conversation pieces.
But as for what I see as I ride across the United States, I look up in the sky all the time.
I've been doing this for 35 years.
And I see the flashing lights going through the sky there.
And I'm looking forward to finding one of these alien people.
And maybe I could give this man Mark my phone number or something if he gets in touch with one.
He can give the aliens my number and get me off this rock because there's very little intelligent life here and I'd like to get off this rock and explore other places other than the United States.
You and me, brother.
And if there are aliens and they're flying around above us and they're listening in on the radios and what's going on in the world, they're not going to stop here.
They're going to keep on going, whoa, see you later.
And I wish them nothing but the best.
But we would be pretty arrogant to believe that we're the only people that God created.
You know, he's omnipotent.
And I believe, you know, God created.
And as for that fast-moving story under the water there, you know, that they weren't just playing with the guy.
You know, they put information out there that's false.
But I appreciate you all standing in for Harrison Smith.
And I really feel...
I hope that Owen's doing okay and I can only imagine what he's going through.
I live a pretty solitary life on the road.
It's really kind of rough.
And as for Mr.
Jones, I've been tuning in for years and years and I keep buying his products.
I want them on the air. And we need a...
Maybe if there are aliens, it would be a beautiful thing if they actually did present themselves and said, hey, listen, guy, knock it off, because like Harrison Smith says, you know, we need an adult in the room here, because what's going on in this world here with all the negativity and the closeness to atomic wars and everything, and, you know, this is all going to be stopped.
Maybe these people have more intelligence than...
As for devolving or evolving, I think we're devolving as a human race.
People are just doing some of the stupidest things that need not be done.
Enough already, you know?
But that's what I got, and I'll make an order this out.
Actually, Friday, I'm going to make another order on the show, from the show of more products, and I appreciate you being there.
kristan t harris
Yeah, definitely. If you send me a screenshot of that, Jay, I'll send you a shirt.
Just let me know what size you wear.
Showtips at therundownlive.com.
Great points, Jay. It's very interesting.
You know, I wish Zaphod Beeblebrox would be me off this planet so I could be a hitchhiker, guide, or hitchhiker across the galaxy, head out to the restaurant at the end of the universe, have a burger with Mark D'Antonio, and pick up some woman on some moon space bar.
go to the space bar and have a you know intergalactic beer or something i don't know mark d'antonio uh great points intelligent aliens would they visit us i don't know i don't think so but uh you're the expert on that there's something going on we just don't know what it is i do think that we stand out though in the universe our our world is uh has a oxygen atmosphere and
marc dantonio
And if you're carbon-based life, and that's probably, again, this is not a truly biased thing, but it actually has to do with the amount of carbon out there.
If you're a carbon-based life form, then you're going to need oxygen to survive.
So if you're going to need oxygen to survive, you're going to, as a carbon-based life form, look for other planets that have oxygen.
We are a blazing blue beacon.
In the universe, right?
Carl Sagan, my favorite astronomer, said, you know, that we are a pale blue dot, okay?
Famous phrase. Well, that pale blue dot stands out and can be seen for thousands of light years.
And the oxygen that we have been creating for two and a half billion years in our atmosphere, right?
That oxygen is visible to alien races.
It's visible to us, so it's visible to them.
The James Webb Telescope is going to indirectly look for oxygen in planetary atmospheres and already has.
In fact, as of just a couple of weeks ago, the James Webb Telescope may have discovered life on another planet.
And that's because it found a special compound called dimethyl sulfide.
And you say, well, what's that? It's the smell of the sea.
When the tide is out, it's that smell, that nasty smell.
You smell the ocean.
Yeah, what's that? That's actually the smell of the waste products from billions of small life forms.
It is only created by life, as far as we know.
So finding it in a planetary atmosphere indicates, in fact, this was a water world, effectively.
Finding it in a planetary atmosphere means that we've probably potentially found life elsewhere.
So an advanced species would look for us.
And the reason they would is because of the fact that we are a species that's made of carbon and we use oxygen.
So if you are also out there in the universe, you're going to look for oxygen.
And so, like I said, we've been creating oxygen for two and a half billion years.
Now, what that means is oxygen, a signal of oxygen from this little world we're on has been traveling out into the cosmos for two and a half billion years, meaning it's gone two and a half billion light years.
That's way bigger than our galaxy and way bigger than the galaxies that are in what's called our local group.
So just within our local group of 30 plus or whatever galaxies that we have, we have sent this signal out.
And so an alien life form would say, hey, that oxygen is staying in the atmosphere.
That means that there has to be life there because it's not depleting.
When it depletes, it's being sucked into iron compounds like it happened on Mars.
Mars rusted and turned red because all of its oxygen went into the iron compounds in the crust.
So that type of thing would happen here and does happen here all the time.
But because plankton keep creating oxygen, we have an overabundance of it and rainforest.
So that is what's happening here.
And another life form elsewhere in the universe would look for that.
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