Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Madison Square Garden: The greatest political rally ever?
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First thing I've got to say, Madison Square Garden was packed.
People waited hours to get in.
They sat through hour after hour of this rally.
They were fervent in their devotion to all things Trump.
Trump has created a movement, there is no doubt.
I cannot think of another Republican figure of my lifetime who could have come into a Democratic city like New York and put together anything like that.
That isn't someone from Newsmax or Fox or one of my Salem colleagues.
That's ABC's Jonathan Karl.
Greetings, dear friends.
It feels like I just never left the studio.
Eric, is it Monday today?
Everything's just like flowing together.
Is it Monday?
It is Monday.
That weekend felt like a whole weekend of itself, didn't it?
It did, especially since I took the red-eye home this morning.
I actually fell asleep.
I liked it as soon as the plane took off from Phoenix where we had like 900 listeners along with me, Larry Elder, Charlie Kirk, Mike Gallagher.
It was incredible.
I just zonked out and then as the plane landed here in DC, I woke up.
It has been such a trip.
I couldn't be at Madison Square Gardens.
My friends from the Trigonometry podcast were right there.
You could actually see one of them right behind the president.
I was so jealous, but I watched all of it from my hotel room in Phoenix, and my gosh, can we just...
Let's stop for a second and ask ourselves, what does this mean?
The capacity crowd, 20,000, well 19, they had to take out some of the seating because of the stage, so it's like 19,000, I can't believe it, 19,600 people.
Inside the capacity crowd, and then according to the NYPD officer in charge and the fire marshals, at least as many people outside.
And it was a cold day in New York yesterday.
What is the significance of all this?
Jeff, you were a little bit miffed.
You said that the timing that this happened on a Sunday, I just think it was delightful.
I watched all of it on Fox News and they had to cover all of it.
Was it a problem that it was on a Sunday?
It's more of a problem.
I think it was probably the best rally they've ever done, is what I'm saying.
So what makes it?
Because they had an amazing lineup.
We're going to have clips from.
Elon was fabulous.
Melania introducing her husband, President Trump.
We had Rudy.
So great to see Rudy on the stage.
What was it about this rally?
Because some people said this was even better than the RNC and the president's speech at the RNC. I thought that too.
It was just the energy.
Everybody was positive.
It was kind of all on message.
It was all different types of people.
I thought it was very good to me.
I just thought it was wasted.
I'm sure there's a reason they did it, but on a Sunday, you're up against football.
I would have loved to have seen that one of the days this week.
I'm sure it was just a scheduling issue with whatever else was going on.
The fact they actually got Madison Square Garden, President Trump gave a shout out to the owner or the manager, whoever it was.
But let's put it into context because we've got eight days.
Eight days.
Oh, I'm just going to salute the people who came to our event for the answer for the local radio show in Phoenix, the local Salem affiliate.
I asked, was it me?
No, it was Charlie.
Charlie asked, everyone assembled right at the beginning because his organization, Turning Point Action, has been getting out the vote, getting people to register in the key, key swing states.
How many people had already voted?
It was like 95% of the room.
Already voted in Phoenix.
I mean, stunning, stunning, stunning.
So we have eight days to go.
I hope you voted.
I voted on Saturday before I flew out.
Let me tell you why it's important.
Number one, in Arizona, the ballot is four pages long.
I verified it with the voters there.
Four pages.
You need 15 minutes to fill it out.
We need 90 million votes for the president.
Just to be sure, we need 90 million votes.
We cannot physically process 90 million people through the polling stations on Tuesday.
It just can't be done.
When you've got ballots that are four pages long, it's impossible.
And then what happens if...
Oh, remember what happened to Carrie Lake in her gubernatorial race?
The printer cartridges run out.
You get a flat, your kid's sick.
And you don't make it to the polls.
Or what happened in Arizona, people have been waiting there, waiting there, waiting there for hours, are told we're out of printer cartridges, and they just go home.
So number one, bank your vote.
Number two, as soon as you voted, you are taken off the list.
President Trump's campaign is told, you have voted.
Not how you voted, because that's not allowed, but they can tell by your previous voting pattern.
If you voted Republican for the last four elections, they say, oh, okay, John's voted, Sarah's voted, crossed them off the list, and then they can go after somebody else who they know has received the ballot and hasn't voted.
If you vote early...
You cost President Trump $9 in advertising to get you out there.
If you vote on election day, you cost President Trump $100.
Those are the figures from Ned Ryan.
You're saving President Trump tens of millions of dollars, thousands of man hours, if you vote early.
And it's crucial that you be part of that.
How many people around you Do you know who...
are lazy, or perhaps the most pernicious of all, don't think their vote counts.
Jeff texted me something to that ilk over the weekend, and I want to ask you, Jeff, can you put your headset back on?
What you texted me as I was flying out to Phoenix was really quite shocking that people you know or friends of yours think there's no point in voting?
I would say 9 out of 10 of the casual Republicans think that he's not going to win, just from what you kind of hear, that he doesn't have a chance to win.
They're the people that have to be turned out.
They want him to win.
They will vote for him.
But they don't think there's a chance he's going to win.
And why have they been disenfranchised?
Why are they demobilized?
What is it they think?
Oh, they're going to steal it again?
Part of that, but they don't follow the news every day.
You know what I mean?
And all you get is that Kamala's doing well.
Kamala's raising all the money.
Apparently, she has the energy.
All that type of stuff.
I've heard that nonstop for the last month.
The first question is, always, does he even have a chance?
That's always what I hear.
And then what is your argument?
What do you say to a friend of yours who says, does he have a chance?
Or, well, I haven't voted and I'm not voting.
What do you say to them, Jeff?
First of all, do you think that they're going to tell you that he has a chance?
That's the first thing.
I just talk about all the lies and they get it.
And then I just kind of come back with figures, that type of stuff.
And just examples of why he's doing well.
Alright.
Guys, if Jeff, hardcore MAGA, knows people like that, then you need to look closely at your circle of friends.
Go home tonight and just scroll through your contacts in your phones.
Pick ten.
Pick ten of your contacts.
Relatives, friends, colleagues, people you went to school with, people who may be inclined not to vote.
Aren't fully MAGA or you've had discussions with and they've said, oh, my vote doesn't make a difference.
It does.
You know why it makes a difference?
Because imagine this.
Imagine this scenario.
Right now, it looks like the president's going to take the battleground states, which will lock in the Electoral College.
What if he locks in the Electoral College?
But then also gets the popular vote as well.
He didn't do that in 2016.
Hillary got the popular vote.
It's going to be really hard to stop president.
Though they'll try, but it's going to be hard if he strolls to an easy electoral college victory and on top of that gets the popular vote.
That's why every person's vote counts.
Tonight, spend 20 minutes, scroll through your contacts on your cell phone, pick 10 names, give them a call, and say, hey, have you voted?
And here's why.
And give them the explanation.
Eight days to go.
It's up to us.
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We'll get you guys a little bit later in the hour.
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where Dave, Judy, Jacqueline can.
Solace, I was asking if you could do top of the hour tonight instead of tomorrow.
Sure.
Okay.
All right.
Oh, I don't think he spoke at CPAC.
He did.
I couldn't find it anywhere.
He did, he did, he did.
Then they didn't film it.
Check any rally.
Or just ask Pre-8.
Pre-8 will know.
Okay.
Let me try to get something for the...
Do you want me to just get any clip of him?
Yes, any clip.
Yeah, any clip.
Any clip.
Want the mics off?
Actually, kill the mic.
So he's...
I can hear you just fine, Seb.
Super, super.
All right.
Good, good, good.
What do we have in the chyron for Scott, Eric?
I had this.
Keysquare Group.
Do you want a website?
Anything else?
Nope, that's great.
Perfect, good.
All right, so we're going to talk about the state of the economy, what needs to be done, and I'd like to get your take on the Fed, what the Fed's been doing, and some quantitative easing questions.
Good.
And if you want to talk about the rally yesterday, I was there.
Oh, yes, absolutely.
All right, in that case, we'll come in with a clip from the rally.
Some good ones.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We came in with Carl 11.
Yep.
Maybe 13 or 14?
Hang on, let's have a look.
13 or 14.
Um...
Actually, come in with Rudy.
Come in with 18.
18.
That's such a great cut.
Where do we find you today, Scott?
I just got back to Charleston from New York.
Lovely.
How are you?
Good, good, good.
Just got back from Phoenix yesterday with a station event with my colleagues, Charlie Kirk, Larry Elder, Mike Gallagher.
Super fun, super fun.
Good.
I hear Arizona's looking good.
Very good.
Very good.
We had like eight, nine hundred people in the room and we asked them who's voted early and it was almost every hand in the room.
It was incredible.
Can we tilt your camera down a little bit, a little less headroom?
I just texted you, sir.
Good.
That's it.
Perfect.
Just like that.
Just like that.
Great.
Where was that, Jeff?
On Fox.
Okay, is it ready?
It is ready now.
You want to see it?
We'll use it in the C segment.
Play it quickly.
Well, as we saw from the debate, President Biden has not been running things for the past.
Perfect.
We'll use that in the next segment.
C. All right.
Nine minutes here and seven minutes in the next segment, Scott.
Coming with 18, Rudy.
Yep.
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Oh, thank you.
Great, great, great.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I'll never, never forget that through all the pain and misery, we came together.
Places of worship, hundreds of funerals, praying to God.
What's happened to God?
We don't pray to him anymore.
We're not allowed to.
We don't bring God back.
We don't come back.
I love that man.
One of the greatest Americans alive today.
To have Rudy Giuliani.
What a lineup at Madison Square Gardens yesterday.
And then to see how he excoriated that fake news journalist from Sky News.
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At the moment, it looks good.
If God willing, we mobilize enough people and President Trump wins.
Well, on January the 20th at 12 o'clock, he's going to have a lot of work to do.
I know what he has to do when it comes to national security, the building of the wall, dealing with the threats to America, so many of them now inside the country.
But what about the economy, the lifeblood of our nation?
No one better to ask than an individual who's spoken out very publicly about the last four years and what it's going to take to have to bring us back to where we were.
He is Scott Besant.
You've seen him on Fox News.
You've seen him at Trump events.
Seen him at CPAC, founder of Key Square Group.
Scott, first things first.
I understand you were at the rally.
How was the mood inside that building?
Well...
Seb, inside and outside, it was incredible.
I think it must have taken me 45 minutes to get into the garden.
I would guess there were 80,000 or 100,000 people outside.
Inside, the mood was evident.
And I will point out that Donald Trump can fill the garden.
Kamala Harris has to have Beyonce and other celebrities who show up and when they don't perform, she gets booed.
Everyone sat there for six and a half hours waiting for President Trump to give the culmination of this great day.
The lineup was fantastic.
You just showed Mayor Giuliani.
The speech is the electricity in the air, and, Seb, I think When I was on my way home last night, I was reflecting that this really could be the preview for 2026, when our country has the 250th anniversary, and I would hope President Trump would go around the country having events like this.
Reaffirming our national values, the Constitution, and talking about the way forward for the country.
I put my head on the pillow last night thinking this is a preview for the 250th anniversary.
All right.
I'm annoyed you mentioned that because I wanted to keep that a secret from the left.
I wanted them not to remember that if the good guys win, it will be President Trump who will be officiating for the 250th anniversary of the founding of our nation, which would just be absolutely supreme.
But yes, God bless you, Scott, for reminding us that the stakes aren't just...
Eight days from now, but also what will happen for the anniversary of the greatest nation on God's green earth.
All right.
We have to hear from your prognosis of what should be done if, God willing, the president wins.
But first, because you understand the markets, you understand finance implicitly.
You're one of the big shakers and movers.
Would you just give us the snapshot diagnosis?
What has happened?
Sure, Seb.
Based on your lead-in, you're obviously one of the great national security experts, and what I've come to the conclusion that The generation that we've seen in our national balance sheet, the economy, the economy really is the same as national security.
They are interlaced, and the economy has been weakened, the national security has been weakened, and I think on January 20th, President Trump with Republican House, Republican Senate, I think we have to reprivatize the U.S. economy,
because what we have seen is a return to the failed experiment of the 60s, 70s, of big, big government, big spending, proposed big taxes, and the Government has really crowded out the private sector.
Is it fair to say that the reanimated corpse of John Maynard Keynes has wreaked his worst?
Keynesianism is back, Scott?
Well, I actually put it another way.
There's this...
Terrible theory called modern monetary theory, and Biden-Harris, with the help of the Fed, turned it into modern monetary policy, because you had the big spending, and then the Federal Reserve financed the debt to keep interest rates low, and that was one of the components for the great inflation.
And, Seb, I believe that on November 5th, One of the factors—one of the leading factors that's going to take Donald Trump back to the White House is we are going to have a multiracial, working-class backlash for this great inflation and the diminishment of the quality of living.
The bottom 50% of wage earners have gotten absolutely crushed.
You're meaning next week on Tuesday, the backlash will be the people who've been crushed economically and who've lost their jobs?
Yeah, and I think Donald Trump has put together this coalition, and it's such an interesting coalition, because you have this working-class coalition across all races, all religious beliefs, and then you have Elon Musk, the richest man in the world, who's also on board.
So it's really a working class coalition.
It's an entrepreneurs coalition.
It's a patriots coalition.
And it's really against the managerial class.
Bingo.
Hold it right there.
Hold it right there.
Perfect analysis.
What happens afterwards and what do we need to do with the Fed?
We're talking to the founder of Key Square Group, who was there yesterday at Madison Square Garden with the president, Scott Bassett.
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Well, as we saw from the debate, President Biden has not been running things for the past, who knows what, months or years.
So it could only have been the vice president who was in charge.
And let's go back.
Vice President Harris was the deciding vote for the American Rescue Plan and the Inflation Reduction Act.
Yes, that's right.
So she owns those.
They would not have passed.
It was 50-50.
She broke the tie.
Yes, she did.
Those caused the great inflation.
She was the border czar.
That immigration.
So, you know, I've talked about interest rates, inflation, and immigration are the things killing working class America.
Tell me which one of those she doesn't own.
Yeah.
If you have to list one achievement of the current vice president, it is being the tie-breaking vote on the Inflation Escalation Act that can be put at her doorstep.
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We're back with the founder of the Key Square Group, our friend Scott Bassett.
Scott, the role of the Fed in the future if President Trump wins?
And then let's start with the biggest actions he has to take in the first hundred days of a second Trump administration.
So, the role of the Fed, President Trump is probably the most sophisticated president on economics and finance in history.
So, he has very strong opinions on monetary policy, on fiscal policy, and on the markets, and he's going to make those views known.
Jerome Powell's term expires in May of I have advocated for President Trump announcing his successor well in advance, and that will somewhat diminish Chair Powell's stature, and whatever the nominee says will influence monetary policy also.
Look, these rumors that Donald Trump wants to be in the room helping set policy, absolutely not.
But he is a wise voice on monetary policy.
He's going to make his opinions known.
And look, we would have all been better off if the Fed had listened to him.
Don't do the final rate hike in December of 2018.
They were cutting rates four months later.
In fall of 2019, he said the rates are too high, and the markets are tight, and the repo market exploded.
The Fed had to come in with a new facility.
So he's going to make his views known, and there'll be a new Fed chair, and there's a fantastic list of candidates.
And then the first hundred days, give us two or three of the biggest acts that will kickstart the engine of the economy.
Yeah, so, Seb, two words, big ball, that President Trump and the Republican Congress are ready to come out of the lanes in the first hundred days that we will pass the extension or make permanent the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.
There will be a massive amount of deregulation across all industries, including finance and energy.
And then on energy, we will go back to American energy dominance.
Rather than lifting the cap on Iran and Venezuelan oil, we will clamp down and embargo their oil, and we will be exploring offshore in Alaska and across the country.
So I think we're going to have a drilling boom.
I think we can We will see a resurgence in domestic Manufacturing as President Trump puts on the tariffs and jobs come home.
So I think we're going to come out of the box fast.
We're going to set policy.
And then over the next year or two, I think that we could see an industrial renaissance and big uptick in manufacturing jobs in the country.
Alongside, we're going to build out the energy infrastructure.
And the main thing that's gonna happen with all this, we're gonna make America affordable again.
We're gonna have increases in real wages for average Americans.
President Trump did it under Trump 1.0, and he's going to do it again under Trump 2.0.
And I believe that inflation will stay quite low.
It will be at the 2 percent Fed target or below.
So real wage gains, low inflation, and an economic boom driven by energy dominance and deregulation.
Wow, you just made me feel very, very good just thinking about the America that could be.
I think we have the title for this segment, Trump 2.0.
Thank you, Scott Besant, founder of the Key Square Group.
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Alright, let's talk to somebody who was there yesterday in Madison Square Gardens.
Jacqueline from Brooklyn.
Happy Monday.
Hello, Dr.
Gorker.
Yes, I was there.
How long did you wait to get in, Jacqueline?
I'm curious.
I was there from 7 o'clock in the morning, and we went from the first entry point to the second entry point, and we were admitted at about 12.30 in the afternoon.
And I left at the end of the rally, so I was there the entire day, waited.
President Trump went on two hours after he was scheduled to do so, but the speakers were fabulous.
And also, I understood that I think it was President Trump or his son Donald that mentioned all along Fifth Avenue, there were over 200,000 people that lined the streets to watch his motorcycle.
It was Donald Trump Jr., yeah.
Yeah, and I was amazed because, of course, being in the garden, I didn't know what was going on in the rest of the world.
And I know that there were at least another 20,000 people outside of the garden that were not able to get in.
And it was just amazing.
One amazing introduction after another, of course, culminating with, in my opinion, the most beautiful First Lady we've ever had, introducing her husband.
And it was just so amazing.
That's the only word I can think of.
Have you been to a Trump rally before?
I went to the one at Nassau Coliseum.
And the only thing I can say, the energy of the people and the type of people that were in attendance We're a little different.
So I actually had more fun at Nassau Coliseum.
It was a different environment.
What?
Come on, come on.
MSG is the best.
What are you talking about, Jacqueline?
That was my first time at Madison Square Garden.
The place is absolutely gorgeous and fabulous.
There's nothing that I can say bad about Madison Square Garden.
And we had wonderful seating locations.
So there's nothing that I can say bad.
Just a little different kind of demographic group, I would say.
But it was just...
It was the second best day of my life.
The first best day was at Nassau Coliseum, I have to say.
And I am so anxious and excited for the inauguration, the second inauguration.
No, Jacqueline.
We take nothing for granted.
Eight days, you've got to get everybody you know to vote.
We don't talk about the inauguration until they have called it for President Trump.
Like the third monkey trying to get on Noah's Ark, we fight, fight, fight, and we get everyone to vote, vote, vote.
So thankful for that report.
A little bit of a different take.
John, happy Monday.
Dr.
G, thanks for taking my call.
Number one, went and voted in New Jersey Saturday afternoon.
God bless.
Was in and out of there at about 5.30 at night.
I was out of there in 10 minutes.
Went to the rally.
First time I've ever taken a train to the city in my life at the age of almost 60.
Wow.
That was an experience.
A lot of police presence in Penn Station.
Unfortunately, I was the first group in my line on 33rd that didn't get to go in.
What time did you get to MSG? I got there around 12.45.
You got there at 12.45 and you didn't make it in?
No, about a little before four were standing in line and I was right in front of the marquee by the entrance.
The group in front of us went in.
I was maybe six feet from the gate.
And then it came on the screen in front of Madison Square Garden that they've reached the capacity.
So what did you do, John?
Well, I ended up going home, but in the meantime, I went back and watched it on the train ride home on my phone.
Nice.
But during the time standing there, talking to people of all races, religions...
Guys with yarmulkes on, so I'm going to assume they weren't Christian.
Black men, white men, an Asian man with a black man, I believe they were a couple.
Actually, he asked me, pretty funny, so what was it like under Reagan as president, making me feel old?
But just every Indians, white people, black, I don't care what color you were, I don't care what nationality you were, everyone was there.
And what was the mood like, John, as you're waiting?
What was the mood like?
Not just there standing in line for three and a half hours, but walking around the city afterwards.
The Trump hats everywhere.
The police.
I took the time to sit and talk to some police officers that are telling me they've been there since 5.30 this morning, and they said, we're going to be here until this is over tonight.
But they all had smiles on their faces.
They were all in a good mood, or at least they seemed to be all in a good mood.
All right.
Well, you just reminded me so much stuff I forgot to talk to you guys about.
I traveled from D.C., from the pit of hell, wearing my MAGA hat yesterday, all the way through the airport, on the plane, all around Phoenix.
I got some stories to tell you about all of that, as well as, well, some other stuff that I was informed of by the people who were on my plane that I broke as some news this morning.
So much to share with you.
Wow.
What a crazy eight days it's going to be.
Have you voted?
Have you got those who haven't voted yet off their duffs, taken them to the polling stations?
It's up to us, guys.
It's up to us.
Is he still on the line?
Was that John?
No, he's dropped.
John, will you call back?
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All right.
Oh, did we do 18, right?
Did I give you what I wanted for 18?
Yeah, I did.
Okay.
Yeah.
Is there another cut we should add?
It was the AOC one.
Do you still want to do that or no?
Is there another one that's better?
Oh, Musk.
Did John post that for me?
Let me see.
I don't think he did.
Let's do 19.
The richest man in the world risking it all to help Donald Trump save America.
Want to come in with something?
There's nothing really short, is there?
No.
There's nothing really short, is there?
points in the first half.
What was said during halftime?
Hey!
Alright!
Nick Bosa with a message there.
Who was that, Jeff?
Is that an important clip?
What was that?
Yeah, that's a big NFL player.
And that was done on Sunday Night Football last night.
The most watched show.
And he went up to the mic with a MAGA hat?
Yes, he did.
Did he get in trouble?
Because they've gotten woke at NFL, haven't they?
They asked about it at the press conference.
He said he doesn't want to get political, but I think this was the right time.
And then there was that college football game, right, Alex, where the kid did a fake touchdown and then pulled out his Trump shirt from under his jersey, right?
Yes, Texas Tech.
Texas Tech.
Oh my gosh, people are just, they don't care!
They're not afraid anymore.
God bless them all.
Let's go to our buddy Dave in Arizona.
Thanks, Dr.
G. Hopefully, Mr.
G can pull up the shot that Jesse and I shared with you on social media and then I sent via email.
It's the 4x8 sign for MAGA from 2020 that is attracting new friends to our doors.
And I'm giving them signs that you sent me.
Love it.
It was great to have 900 seed planters, members of Trump Force 47, at that event last night.
You brought the house down.
Thank you, sir.
And the fact that almost all of you have voted, were you shocked, Dave, or did you know that was the sea of arms raised when Charlie asked everybody?
Well, I don't know if you noticed or not.
I held my hand up the whole time because I'm going to identify as a member of the Chicago community.
I'm going to vote early and vote often.
And often.
All right.
That's what the other side does, but we have a sense of humor.
Great to see you, Dave.
God bless everyone who came yesterday.
It was incredible.
And thanks to Seth Leapson, who was a superb host as well, and Phil and Dave and everybody else who was there.
Let's go to Judy in Brooklyn.
She's not very happy.
She's what?
Not very happy.
Oh, no, no.
I'm very happy.
I'm very happy.
But not with the media.
You're not happy with the media, my dear.
Oh, I hate the media.
Are you kidding?
They are the dictators of our time right now.
The media, okay?
They're lame.
Listen.
So listen.
So I went from a deplorable...
To a Hitler-loving follower, according to that despicable Hillary Clinton, okay?
Yep.
She and some other nutcases.
Her husband, by the way, he had his acceptance nomination.
His nomination speech at the Madison Square Garden, correct?
Right, right.
But that was fine.
But according to this one, we were all Nazis, and it's all Hitler.
Listen, Dr.
Gorka, listen to me.
Calling Nazis.
President Trump's Hitler, or fascism, or whatever, is so ridiculous.
I'll tell you why.
Putting aside that he's got some grandkids that are Jewish, putting aside a lot of things that he did in Israel, putting all of it aside, for four years, For four years, from 2016 to 2020, there wasn't a hint of anything Hitler-esque or fascist.
He was hanging out with, you know, Jesse Jackson, Al Schatz.
So weird that they'd hang out with a Nazi for decades, Judy.
So weird, don't you think?
Absolutely, Dr.
Gorka.
You know what I want to tell you?
You can't, you can't.
You can stay on the line and we can talk in the break, but we are up against the merciless thing called the clock.
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Hello?
Hi, can you hear me?
I can.
Thanks for having me.
What do you want in the chyron?
We've got your Twitter, your name, is there a website, anything else?
If you could add my Instagram too, that would be great and that'd be perfect.
All right.
What's the Instagram?
Same as my Twitter handle, the, T-H-E, Debra, oh, same as mine.
Perfect.
And then how do you want us to describe you?
Debra, Leah, comma, what?
What are you?
Changes on the day.
Political commentator is usually what I go for.
Jewish activist always works as well.
Jewish activist.
Political commentator, let's put Jewish troublemaker.
No, just political commentator, that's good.
Jesse Waters calls me a Jewish oracle, so I'll go with that.
Where are you out of?
I'm based in Manhattan.
I sent you another image, Eric.
All right, for this segment?
Uh-huh.
All right.
Oh, my gosh.
I've got to show this to Debra, I'm sure she's seen it.
30 seconds.
Alright, what have we got to come in with?
I'm gonna tee up 16.
Tee up 16.
Then I'll mention her tweet, the image I just sent, and then I'll...
I know Sebastian.
well, Listen to him.
He's with us.
Thank you, Mr.
President.
Thank you.
Hour two.
How did it get to be hour two?
That's crazy.
It's going to be like this for the next eight days.
Have you done everything you can to make sure that President Trump is installed, is re-elected as the 47th, not just the 45th President of the United States?
Look at examples of others who've given so much.
Look at America's, one of our greatest patriots, definitely our greatest living mayor, that is Rudy Giuliani.
He was door-stopped by the scum at Sky News on his way to Madison Square Garden who were trying to do the, HE'S A NAZI THING! And Rudy gave as good as he got.
Cut, 16.
Why Madison Square Garden, given the Nazi history?
Well, first of all, does one remember that Bill Clinton...
Can you let me answer the question?
Because Bill Clinton was nominated here.
So if it was okay for Bill Clinton to nominate here...
Isn't Hillary Clinton one of the most rotten hypocrites in the world to say, oh, it's Hitler for Trump, but not for Bill Clinton?
Bill Clinton was nominated here much closer in time to the Hitler rally.
So Hillary, stuff it up your lying face.
I love that man.
What a hero.
Put away five mafia dons, then cleaned up the rest of New York, and then got her back off her knees after 9-11.
What a great man.
But there are no limits to what these people will do, despite my former boss being the most philo-Semitic president since the rebirth of Israel in 1948.
One woman who was there posted this on Twitter.
Let me just read it to you guys.
I'm Debra!
I'm 24.
I'm Jewish.
I'm a woman.
I'm a lifelong New Yorker.
And I am proud to support Donald Trump for president with the massed crowds behind her at Madison Square Gardens.
We should try and get her on the show.
Eric, can you try and get Debra Lea on the show, please?
Let me snap my fingers, and I think we just did.
Hello, Debra!
Hello.
Thanks for having me.
Well, thank you for replying to my DM on Twitter today after I saw your amazing video and giving us your contact details so we can get you on the show.
Let's play your short little video, which kind of has gone viral.
I just got back from Donald Trump's rally at Madison Square Garden.
I'm a Jewish New York Republican, and I have seen the mainstream media calling this a Nazi rally.
And that couldn't be further from the truth.
There were so many Jews there, just like myself.
There was Israeli flags, and nearly every single speaker talked about their commitment to upholding the relationship between US and Israel.
Not to mention all the Latinos for Trump, gays for Trump, and nearly every other group that would have never been allowed in if this was actually a Nazi rally.
Kamala Harris could literally bring Adolf Hitler on her stage and the mainstream media still wouldn't call it a Nazi rally.
Their lies are futile.
Trump is winning this election in nine days.
Make sure you get out, vote early and vote for Donald Trump.
I'm really confused.
You live in this super liberal city of New York.
You're a Jew.
Wasn't it scary to go to a Nazi rally?
You know, I didn't realize it was a Nazi rally until I got there and everybody was telling me that despite being a very proud Jew, I was suddenly a Nazi.
People on Twitter were even blocking me when I explained to them that there was Israeli flags there, lots of Jews wrapping tefillin.
But as a lifelong New Yorker, it was amazing.
This was my first time ever feeling confident to wear a MAGA hat in the streets.
Tell us what it was like walking up there, because we saw these photographs and this is like Manhattan and all we saw are these The Sea of Red MAGA hats across Manhattan.
What was that like?
How did people relate to each other?
Did you like have the secret handshake as you looked at each other?
What was it like?
that I love about Trump rallies, the energy and the connection between the people there was incredible.
It was positive.
Everybody was complimenting each other.
Everybody was extremely attractive, which Kamala rallies could obviously never do that.
And this is just my favorite part about being a New Yorker.
We all come out and show what we believe in.
And I think this sends a message to the rest of New Yorkers that you're not the only opinion here.
There are a lot of Trump supporters Of course, people came in for this rally, but I know lots of lifelong New Yorkers like myself were proud to go out and support President Trump in hopes of also turning New York red after many years of being destroyed by far-left woke Democrats.
Now, lest people think that I'm just making this stuff up, let's show this chyron from the mainstream legacy lying media.
I thought this had been made by the Babylon Bee.
This is horrific.
This is who these scumbags are.
So they show a photograph From the Nazi rally in 1938, with people doing the fascist salute, a black and white photograph, and underneath MSNBC writes, Trump's Madison Square Garden rally comes 85 years after pro-Nazi rally at famed arena.
I'm sorry, I'm not Jewish.
Well, I did find out I'm 7% Jewish, but I don't think that authorizes me to comment on everything Jewish.
But as a proud Jew, you're wearing the Star of David right now as you appear on my show.
What does this mean to you when an event you attended is connected to actual, real Nazis, Deborah?
I think it's apparent and it really undermines the brutality of what the Holocaust actually was.
I have a lot of family friends who are Holocaust survivors who fled Nazi Germany to pursue a better life, who were even turned down from coming to America and sent back to concentration camps.
And saying that us individuals, proud Jews, going out to support a duly elected Democratic presidential candidate is the same thing as Nazi Germany, the amount of Black Americans, gay Americans, Latino Americans, people of all different groups rallying in support of Trump, who would have never been allowed at a Nazi rally, let alone the Israeli flags and everybody's commitment to supporting U.S. and Israel relationships.
It's really disgusting that they would compare this.
And I'm glad that you mentioned your 7%.
You're always invited to the Shabbat dinner at my house.
But they tell us that only Black people are the ones who can determine what racism is or microaggressions.
When it comes to anti-Semitism, all of these people who are not Jewish or Jewish in blood only but have never had a single connection to the actual religion or traditions are defining what anti-Semitism is and what Nazism is.
And like I said in my video, this is just a way to try and attack Trump.
And they know that Trump is winning and that he is loved by Jews.
And we are rallying in support of him, the most pro-Israel president and the most Freedom pursuing president.
I was on college campuses when he expanded the Title IX movement to protect individuals from anti-Semitism and that made a big impact.
I went to a public university and it's just disgusting that they would try to use this, the Holocaust, the worst, most egregious genocide in the history of humankind, and try to compare that to a Trump rally while simultaneously saying that the war between Israel and Hamas, the terrorist organization, is an actual genocide.
These people need to be condemned.
And I think it's time that we hold the media accountable for these disgusting connections that are just outright lies.
Yeah, I'm going to take you up on that offer of a dinner, but let's echo what you said with actually the man's words himself.
This is inclusive.
If you believe in America, whatever your background, whether you were born here, whether you weren't born here, whichever God you pray to, this was President Trump's message yesterday from the garden to all Americans who love America.
Cut 12.
But this is the city where I was born and raised, and this is the town that taught me that Americans can do anything when they want to.
So no matter our differences, when we work together, there is nothing that we cannot achieve.
From New York to Las Vegas, from Philadelphia to Phoenix, from Chicago to Charlotte, From Atlanta to Detroit, this nation was built by generations of American patriots who gave everything they had for our rights, our future, and for our freedom.
Through freezing cold winters and hot scorching summers, through storms and setbacks and conflicts and danger, Our American ancestors pushed onward, marched forward, and overcame every single obstacle that stood in their way.
Together they crossed the oceans, settled a continent, tamed the wilderness, laid down the railroads, raised up those mighty skyscrapers, built the highways, won two world wars, defeated fascism and communism, and launched American astronauts to the moon.
It was hard-working patriots like you who built this country, and nine days from now, it's hard-working patriots like you who are going to save our country.
Is there anything to object in that speech, Deborah, that any American should object to?
Absolutely not.
That speech resonates with every single American and it inspires me.
It was one of my favorite moments of the night.
Also when he and Melania both separately talked about making New York great again.
Like I mentioned, I'm a lifelong New Yorker.
I was raised as a kid here.
I remember how safe and great it used to be.
I was eight years old walking to and from school all alone.
My parents were not concerned about my safety.
And now I'm 24.
I'm the oldest and strongest I've ever been, and I've never been more afraid for my own safety and my own life just taking the subway to see a friend.
So I love the message that Donald Trump has.
I am so excited to restore America and get back to the country that I want to raise my kids in, which is a safe and prosperous We need to have big dreams.
We need to start being able to save our money.
And we need to be able to pursue everything that we could ever want in the greatest country in the history of mankind second to none.
It's up to us.
We've got eight days left to be inspired by this lovely lady.
I'll see you for that Shabbos dinner.
In the meantime, the Debra Lea, L-E-A, on Twitter, on Instagram.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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Actually, is that too long?
Seven minutes?
17 is three and a half minutes.
Well, this is a B segment, so you could.
It's a B, I've got nine.
I've got B, I've got C. Actually, come in with the ad, 17, and then I'll tee up Musk.
Come in with 17 and you'll tee up to 19?
Yeah.
Okay.
Need a title for Deborah?
Give me an idea.
Um...
The farthest thing from a Nazi rally?
Or something like that?
Um...
No.
Let me just like your video.
I'm a Jew and I just went to the Trump...
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Um, yeah.
I'm a New York Jew and I loved being at Trump's rally.
That's not...
You can say that, right?
I'm a New York Jew.
That's fine.
I think that's exactly what she said, right?
That's what she said, yeah.
So we got a super chat, by the way.
Jewels15 for $10.
Says, I'm dropping some dough for the doggo appearance last week.
Thank you for the uplifting moment, smiley face.
It's a great way to start the weekend.
Thank you, Jules.
The doggos.
The doggos.
Big doggos.
Alright, so come in with 17.
And then we'll tee up 19.
Did you see that thing I posted about the White House?
Yeah, what do you think that's all about?
I did.
No, mics are off, right?
No, mics are mics are off.
No, mics are mics are off.
No, mics are off.
The vast majority of American men have no issue with electing a female president.
Our issue lies solely with you.
You were second in charge of California for 13 years.
As California's Attorney General, Harris promoted enforcement of a law that allowed prosecutors to seek jail time for parents of truant kids.
As a prosecutor and law enforcement, I have a huge stick.
So I decided I was going to start prosecuting parents for truancy.
I thought that was crazy.
I was like, how can you lock parents up?
If you don't go to school, Kamala's gonna put you and me in jail.
Yes, we achieved an intended effect.
I opened the door and I see at least seven or eight cops that wanted to arrest me.
As a matter of fact, they did.
And frankly, you know the prosecutors in my office who volunteered to do this?
My homicide prosecutors.
My gang prosecutors and they went over there and I said when you go over there look really mean.
She had me arrested and prosecuted because my handicapped daughter was sick in the hospital and had missed some days of school.
I learned That with the swipe of my pen, I could charge someone with the lowest level offense.
That person could be arrested.
They could lose time from work and their family maybe lose their job.
They'd have to come out of their own pocket to help hire a lawyer.
They'd lose standing in their community.
I lost my job and couldn't pay rent and we got evicted.
Weeks later, I could dismiss the charges, but their life would forever be changed.
I became homeless.
We had to move into a motel.
All because of the swipe of my pen.
I don't agree what Kamala Harris did to my mom, and I don't agree with what she's done to other parents as well.
You were second in charge of the United States for four years.
If anything, would you have done something differently than President Biden during the past four years?
There is not a thing that comes to mind in terms of, and I've been a part of most of the decisions that have had impact.
Inflation is hitting the highest level in 39 years.
A record high number of illegal crossings.
Crime's been surging across the nation.
Huge spikes in homicide.
Could we be heading toward World War III? After 17 years of failed leadership, you are now asking us to trust you as first in charge of our country.
I am concerned and focused on big issues.
Elementary and middle school truancy is actually a big issue if we're trying to save the state money.
Because of truancy, California public schools lose $1.4 billion a year in funding.
I want money.
My message to all Americans, do not trust Kamala Harris.
As men and protectors of women and children, you are simply a risk we are not willing to take.
Wow, now that is a campaign ad.
Who laughs about putting parents in jail because their children don't go to school?
That's the real Kamala Harris.
Let's have something positive.
This was one of the most joyous moments from Madison Square Garden yesterday.
I think he really enjoys this.
Elon Musk's abbreviated speech.
I'm not just MAGA, I'm dark, gothic MAGA.
Well, it's... the energy in this room is incredible.
What a great group of people.
Alright, I've only got one question for you and then I'm getting out of here because this is your stage.
But we set up Doge.
Yes.
How much do you think we can rip out of this wasted $6.5 trillion Harris-Biden budget?
Well, I think we can do at least $2 trillion.
Yeah!
Yes.
$2 trillion.
I mean, at the end of the day, you're being taxed.
You're being taxed.
All government spending is taxation.
So whether it's direct taxation or all government spending, it either becomes inflation or it's direct taxation.
Your money is being wasted, and the Department of Government efficiency is going to fix that.
We're going to get the government off your back and out of your pocketbook.
America is just not going to be great.
America is going to reach heights that it has never seen before.
The future is gonna be amazing!
Now...
You guys are awesome.
Honestly, this is like...
Yeah.
I mean, this is the kind of positive energy that America is all about. this is the kind of positive energy that America is Yeah.
USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! Yes!
Now, I have something I want to ask you to do, though.
Because, obviously, we're somewhat preaching to the converted in this stadium, but there's a lot of people out there who We need to vote for President Trump.
This is a real battle.
This is a real election battle.
You need to get friends and family to vote.
Make sure they vote early.
This is important.
We're going to be putting up a scorecard.
An early vote scorecard, state by state, county by county.
What is the scorecard?
Vote early.
vote now.
Make the margin of victory so big that you know what can happen.
Massive Massive, overwhelming sweep of every swing state and even some of the states that people don't think are swing states.
Massive crushing victory.
Get everyone, friends, family, people on the street, put the signs up, put the hat on.
Let's go.
Put the hat on.
His hat is Dark Maga.
But not just Dark Maga.
It's Gothic Dark Maga.
And that line, make the victory so big that you know what can't happen.
I wore my hat across the country.
I'll tell you the story next.
And we'll go to our caller, Ken, waiting very patiently in Pensacola momentarily.
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No, sorry.
Ashton Gorka.substack.com. Seven months ago?
It was March 7th.
That's right.
Now he's like Brick Suit.
He's like a super fan.
You know what's really annoying?
I get on the plane last night at midnight in Phoenix, and this guy's walking down the aisle, and he leans down at me and he says, Are you Brick Suit?
No, I'm not Brick Suit!
No.
You're like three feet taller than him is.
I was sitting down, but I didn't have a Brick Suit on, so how can I be Brick Suit?
Oh, man.
It's hilarious.
I'm going to have to tell Brick Suit.
First it was that guy, the North Carolina thing with Trump, Hurricane, and then the...
Oh, did you see the thing I just tweeted?
Mark Cuban hasn't given Kamala Harris a penny.
I'm not surprised.
It's weird.
You call President Trump a fascist, but you haven't given Kamala any money?
He doesn't believe anything he says.
So why is he saying it?
Because he looks stupid.
I don't get it.
The thing about Mark Cuban is, like, When he was an owner for the basketball team, everything he did was exactly like what Trump would have done if he owned a team.
He was about the fans, he'd call out officially.
He was very Trump-like, you know what I mean?
Really?
He's made all these cameos in movies kind of like him and stuff.
Really?
Yes, he was very Trump-like.
But did he understand media like President Trump?
No, but he was pretty good at it.
He was very good at it when he first came up.
Some people are even thinking he might run for office.
I think he is running, to be honest.
Remember Trump got very involved in 2012 even though he didn't run?
Yes.
And the glasses are like, alright, now I'm a lib.
Like trying to brand him.
You know what I mean?
That's fascinating.
That's fascinating.
So it's just his ego and he wants to become a politician.
But Patrick bet David's Theory is, he says that he absolutely hates Elon Musk with a passion.
Oh no, that's clear.
I mean, he's really jealous of Elon.
Jealousy, yeah.
Well, wasn't Cuban on a shark tank?
Or am I thinking of someone else?
It said it's going to be his last year, this year.
And he just sold the controlling interest of his basketball team.
Oh yeah, he's going to run for something.
I come in with seven, then I'll do my pillow and then I'll go to Ken.
We haven't even touched on the Rogan interview yet.
No, we'll do that.
that we'll squeeze one of those in.
All right.
But hang on.
It's Monday, right?
This is Monday.
And it aired Friday night.
I didn't discuss it on Friday.
Wasn't it Thursday night?
When did it air?
It aired later because you texted us late that night.
Late Friday night.
Yeah, late, late Friday night.
It was recorded like at noon.
I swore I would discuss it on the show.
That's crazy.
We didn't.
Did you see the figures?
40 million people have voted.
Oh, you want to know this?
What?
The Rogan thing?
What?
I watched most when I tried to get it today, so I put Trump-Rogan on YouTube.
Didn't come up.
What?
It's Shadow Man.
So then I did Trump-Rogan full interview.
It's the 16th video.
No, no, no, no, no.
It's true.
I'll show you.
He's right.
Alright, you gotta talk about that.
And by the way, at 3pm today, it was at 34.4 million views, now it's at 34.7 already.
It's gained 300,000 views, the YouTube video.
300,000 views in the last hour and a half.
Coming in with seven.
And.
And.
Donald Trump is not a normal candidate.
And I think it's not a stretch to call Donald Trump a fascist.
You talked about the people in his cabinet that spoke the same way.
He's talking about the enemy within and going after people using the military.
He's talked about mass deportations where they'll stop people on the street and check their papers.
What does that remind you of?
Talking about knocking on doors and pulling people out and deporting them.
What does that remind you of?
That's pretty damn close to fascism, if not the definition of fascism.
Who is that guy?
Is that Rachel Maddow with a sore throat?
Jeff, who is that?
That's Mark Cuban.
Well, what's with the stupid glasses?
I think he's branding himself.
But he's rich.
Can't he afford contact lenses?
Not if you're trying to appeal to a certain group.
That is just so creepy.
And I just posted an article on my Twitter.
He calls President Trump a fascist, but he says he hasn't given a penny to Kamala.
I mean, if the threat is fascism, why hasn't he given any money to her?
Because even though he has a lot of money, smart people don't waste money.
They really don't.
Oh, that's good.
That's good.
All right, we've got to go back to the, I can't believe it was just Friday, the Rogan interview.
That's insane, but he's been waiting for a long, long time.
Let's go to Florida.
Ken in Pensacola.
Good afternoon, Dr.
Gorka.
Thank you for having me on.
Thanks for your patience.
What would you like to talk about?
Well, a couple things, but I'll do it real quick.
My mother is nearly 80 years old.
Staunch Democrat her entire life.
Voted for Donald Trump today, along with myself and my wife.
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
So you and your wife are Republicans, but your mother was a Democrat.
She voted for President Trump.
Ken, I need to know why.
Well, my mother's fed up with the way things are going.
All the illegal aliens in the country.
What's going on with food prices?
They're on a fixed income.
And my parents are raising six great-grandchildren.
They have full custody of them.
They're nearly 18 years old each.
Well, God bless them.
What was it that they're most fed up of?
Is it the illegals, the economy?
Was there one thing?
My mother, it's the economy.
My father, it's the economy and the illegals coming into our country.
Uh-huh.
So...
You know, they just need to put an end to this.
My father's always been a Republican, but my mother, she's been a staunch, blue-blood Democrat from South Carolina her entire life.
All right.
What else did you want to say?
Well, I just wanted to remind my fellow Floridians to vote no on Amendment 4 and Amendment 3.
And if any of you out there have not watched the Joe Rogan interview with President Trump, you need to watch it.
He went for three hours without a teleprompter or someone whispering in his ear.
If there's doubt in your mind that man loves America, you need to pack your bags and get out of America.
He didn't even have one of those earrings with a little speaker in it.
It's weird.
President Trump didn't have any earrings on Ken.
No, sir.
The man's there.
He's 100% there mentally.
Stay on the line.
I love your story.
I want to send all four of you, your wife, yourself, and your mother and her husband, the butler mug.
So stay on the line.
Fight, fight, fight.
Ken gets his.
All right.
Let's play it.
Let's have fun with President Trump.
And, of course, he doesn't need a teleprompter.
We're going to talk about windmills.
President Trump and Joe Rogan.
Cut eight.
The environmentalist dream is windmills.
You know what happens to them?
After five years, they start to rot.
After 10 years, you have to replace them.
Did you ever look at certain parts of California where they have heavy windmills and they've been abandoned?
And they're all different manufacturers in all different companies.
I haven't seen that.
It is the ugliest thing.
It looks like a graveyard, almost.
A graveyard of windmills.
It's pollution.
It's so bad.
And in the oceans.
It's no different than leaving garbage on the ground.
How about in New Jersey, off the coast of New Jersey, they want to build?
The people are going crazy not to build them.
But where you have them, the whales are washing up on shore.
Right.
So in 50 years, they had one whale come ashore.
Now they had like 18 come in the last year.
What is happening with the whales?
I've read about this.
Well, they say that the wind drives them crazy.
You know, it's a vibration because you have those, you know, those things are 50-story buildings, some of them.
Right, and they're super sensitive to vibrations and sounds.
You know, the wind is rushing, the things are blowing, it's a vibration, and it makes noise.
You know what it is?
I want to be a whale psychiatrist.
It drives the whales frickin' crazy, and something happens with them.
But for whatever reason, they're getting washed up on shore, and, you know, and yet the environmentalists...
Conveniently ignored by the environmental people.
Yeah, but the environmentalists, they don't talk about it.
Right.
I think there's nothing uglier.
I see it in Scotland, I see it all over the world.
You have this beautiful valley.
It's been there for, you know, in civilization thousands of years, but millions of years.
And all of a sudden you have these ugly windmills up.
It was a three hour long conversation from how you look after forests and deadwood to UFOs to you name it, the JFK files.
Eric, what was your favorite part of the three hours?
It came shortly after that.
He talked about how the windmills were driving the whales crazy.
At one point, the president just suddenly said, you know, I want to be a whale psychiatrist.
It took me like a good two seconds to process that, and I just burst out laughing.
That's absolutely the most iconic thing he said in those three hours.
So hilarious.
What segment are we in, Alex?
What is this?
See, all right.
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At one point during the conversation they talked about the waste of water in California.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they brought up Tulare Lake, which I did not think I would ever hear them talk about that.
So it's a...
It's an extinct lake.
It's not there anymore, but it used to exist.
But we used to have enough water for everyone, yeah.
Right.
It was like the biggest freshwater lake west of the Mississippi.
But then Rogan has the producer Jamie pull up.
Like, they pull up, oh, look up Tulare Lake.
And one of the first things is a YouTube video with a thumbnail that has the lake basically take up the entire middle third of the whole state.
And I mean, it was never that big.
Lake Tulare, that was one of those stupid thumbnails that exaggerates for dramatic effect.
It was big, but it was not nearly that much.
Do you want the image of the tweet I just sent you that you sent with the numbers?
I just sent it to Eric.
I just sent it to Eric.
But I need you to talk about YouTube first, Jeff.
Okay.
Oh, yeah, he's not.
You want the mic on?
Yeah, mic's up.
Mic's up.
All righty.
Hey, Cliff.
Howdy, how are you guys?
Trying to get my video on here.
One second.
Am I sideways?
No, there we go.
I don't know if you're sideways.
Oh my goodness.
Oh yes, Dark Maga.
Very nice.
Can you tilt down a little bit?
Down?
Just a little less headroom.
How am I going to get through all of these cuts?
It's crazy.
Come in with 14.
I need to do 14, then Patriot Mobile.
What else is important?
We did Cuban, we did Windmills.
We didn't do 9, the IQ. Homans is hysterical.
I was watching that live.
I laughed out loud by myself.
Why is it hysterical?
The way that she asks it in the end of what he says.
The way that he says it.
Well, it's just very Tom.
Yes.
Yeah, we'll do that in E. We'll do that in E. Alright, come in with 14.
Then we'll do Patriot, then we'll introduce Cliff.
Have you got the image of his tweet?
Yes, I do.
What is this?
National Faith Advisory...
Oh, okay.
He has been on the road for 58 days.
You know that?
58 days.
Who?
President Trump.
That is unreal.
What?
Because he's tired and old, you know that, right?
The guy doesn't sleep.
Yeah, you know he doesn't.
58 days.
They're still calling on MSNBC the laziest presidential campaign ever.
Are you kidding me?
Yes, Lawrence O'Donnell says that we are.
We'll be right back.
she was saying there was only 32 days left, right?
And she's reading it like, huh?
There's 32 days.
And it stopped.
And she went, there's 32 days.
32.
32.
And I was watching.
I said, this isn't pretty.
32.
She was gone.
And then, damn it, it kicked back on.
She was gone.
32, 32, 32, and then the teleprompter came back on, maybe with the funniest moment yesterday.
Was that yesterday?
Eric, was that yesterday?
It was indeed Sunday.
Oh my gosh, that's crazy.
Jeff, what were you saying in the break?
First, Eric, what are the views on the Joe Rogan interview?
It is currently at, it just went up again, 34.8 million on YouTube.
But Jeff, you said there's a problem.
Yeah, I was trying to watch the end of it on the way in today.
You mean listen to it while you're driving, not watch it.
Well, there's traffic in D.C. I can watch a little bit.
So I was putting in Rogan Trump, and then it was just some clips, people commenting on it.
I couldn't find it.
Hang on, you're in YouTube in the search bar?
Yes.
You put in Rogan Trump, and it doesn't pop up?
No, so then I did Joe Rogan Trump full interview, and it was the 16th video down.
Can we just win the election for that, please?
I mean, that is...
That's 1984.
You put in Trump, Rogan, full episode, and it's the 16th result on the search.
Absolutely mind-numbing.
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Pennsylvania?
What's going on?
Let's talk to the man who is chasing down every single last ballot.
He is Cliff Maloney.
Cliff, welcome back to America First.
Oh, we've got a little bit of a lag there.
Doc, great to be with you guys.
All right, a little bit of a pause.
Pachase.com.
Pachase.com.
Put the tweet up from Cliff and walk us through these numbers.
Read them out to us, Cliff.
Tell us what the numbers are.
You're talking to about three and a half million people right now.
And what do they mean?
Yeah, so right now, you know, we had requests, right?
So the opportunity to see who was requesting ballots for the past year.
But now it becomes real, right?
You're breaking up again.
All right, so now it becomes real.
Start that sentence again because you started skipping.
Go ahead.
Yeah, now it becomes real because we have 819,000 Returns from Democrats compared to 438,000 returns for Republicans.
But Seb, why is that important, right?
Why would Republicans maybe get worried when they look at those numbers?
They shouldn't.
All right, this is too important.
Keep the Skype image up.
Jeff, will you call Cliff on his cell so we can at least get the audio uninterrupted on the cell?
Because we need to uncover these figures.
If the Democrats have returned 819,000 and the Republicans have only returned 438, that's almost a double of the returns for the Democrats.
Why shouldn't we be worried about that?
Let's connect via the phone.
Let's see if we can get Cliff on because I want to know what these numbers mean.
So tell me when he's up.
Whisper in my ear.
In the meantime, do we have something fun we can do?
Yes, let's play President Trump from MSG yesterday.
Cut 13.
Police and firefighters also.
We have every endorsement from virtually every sheriff's department, police department.
I don't think they have one cop.
They're looking for just one cop.
Is there one?
Well, it's not going to be in New York's finest.
By the way, how good are the police outside?
New York's finest.
God bless President Trump and New York's finest that kept everyone in the garden safe yesterday.
All right, we're back.
Put the image of the figures up on the screen from Cliff.
Cliff, so should we be worried or not be worried, given the fact that the Democrats have almost doubled the ballot returns in Pennsylvania?
Yeah, I wouldn't be worried at all.
And the numbers, if I'm repeating myself, I apologize.
But, you know, you figure they had 819,000 returns to us having 438,000.
We're just above 400,000 ballots returned ahead of us.
But let's look at how that compares to four years ago when they had these crazy record numbers, you know, during COVID. Joe Biden had two million mail-in votes.
Hang on, hang on.
At this time, like a week before the election?
No, so I'm saying when you actually look at the mail-in votes per candidate.
Okay.
Okay?
Donald Trump only had 600,000 mail-in votes in 2020.
Joe Biden had 2 million.
Seb, that is a 1.4 million vote lead.
And right now, their lead is under 400,000.
And also, Election Day, because we have our traditions, favors conservatives, correct?
Trump won Election Day in 2020 by 1.3 million votes.
So if you're Democrats right now, I mean, this is their excuse, Seb.
They say, well, we're going to turn out on Election Day because it's not COVID. Look, I'm sure they'll have more turnout than they usually do.
But it's not their strength.
I mean, your whole infrastructure is built on running up the score with the early votes.
Okay, we've got 30 seconds left, but I need to just make sure I temper this.
It looks great, but we don't chill for the next eight days, right, Cliff?
That is spot on.
Anybody from your show, Seb, wants to come out to Pennsylvania, we need all hands on deck.
P-A-Chase.com will put you in a hotel.
We'll get you a gas card.
If you can't come sponsor somebody, we cannot let off the gas.
All right.
And you've worked it out where we have to turn out, how many votes we need.
Last question.
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What do you expect in Pennsylvania?
Because everyone's going to be looking at Pennsylvania.
When will we get the results?
Well, I think right now the good news is there are less returns overall, so they're going to be able to count them much quicker.
They're going to try to use that excuse, we have to make this too big to rig.
Anyone listening to Tim Pennsylvania, go out right now and vote.
Get an on-demand mail-in ballot so you don't have to deal with the post office.
If you can't, you've got to show up on November 5th.
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All right, numbers look fantastic.
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One thing with those numbers that he kind of didn't get into, this whole campaign in PA about it was that if they could get to 25%, it would be much more competitive of the total.
You mean 25 million?
Yeah, percent.
Out of the whole million, it's Republicans 25.
28 to 30, they thought Trump would probably win.
If it's 33, they were saying it's going to be a Trump landslide.
It's 33.8.
But you don't want to put that out because if everyone that says they're going to vote now votes, it's fine.
You know what I mean?
That's what you've got to keep it at.
Well, so Democrats are trying to cope so hard about Pennsylvania.
They keep claiming some analysts have come up out of nowhere that, oh, we need a firewall of 500,000 votes in Pennsylvania.
We'll win.
And then they just suddenly change that to 400,000.
And that makes no sense because in 2020, they had a voter registration advantage in Pennsylvania of 1.1 million.
And they still only barely, quote-unquote, won the state by 80,000.
So...
Coming with home and coming with six.
Which cut?
Six.
Six.
All right.
So I'm confirmed top of show seven, right?
Yep.
Okay.
Topic.
I'll send topics.
Yeah, he seemed a little bit too chill.
No?
Who?
Maloney.
Cliff.
Yeah.
I'd love to know who's funding the hotels and the gas cards.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I don't know if that's accurate or not.
Is that what American taxpayers should expect?
What price do you put on national security?
Is that worth it?
Is there a way to carry out mass deportation without separating families?
Of course there is.
Families can be deported together.
I called Tom this morning.
I said, Tom, I love that interview.
And he told me he didn't want to do it, but somebody from a certain place you know where told him he's got to do it.
Jeff, did you watch the rest of that?
I watched it live last night.
I was laughing out loud to myself, which I never do when he said that.
Do you know what Tom said?
They recorded him for almost two hours.
Almost two hours.
How long was the whole thing?
It was, his part was maybe three or four minutes later.
Oh my gosh.
Oh my gosh.
Alright, what else did I want to share with you guys before we get our special guest in studio?
Let's play this.
This was hilarious.
This is another cut from Rogan.
Can't believe this was just Friday.
Cut 9.
The rhetoric is also that you're Hitler, and that in order to stop Hitler, you have to do whatever it takes.
That was okay, yeah.
Yeah, and this is, I mean, you're hearing this now.
Kamala compared you to, said your love of Hitler yesterday.
You know, Kamala's a very low IQ person.
She's a very low IQ. You know, I'm for taking tests, too.
I think anybody that runs for president should take, they should give them tests.
And it's not an age thing.
It's not based.
If you look back on history, 70s and 80s, you're Some of your greatest leaders in the world.
World history.
Long time world history.
They were in their 70s and their 80s.
But I think you should take cognitive tests.
I think everybody, they say it's unconstitutional.
But I think Kamala should have a test because there's something missing.
There's something wrong with her.
Well, I think it's pressure.
I think the pressure and the scrutiny, you've been a celebrity for a long time, and you understand what this is like.
But for someone who's in her late 40s, who becomes the vice president, who runs for president, becomes the vice president, and then all of a sudden the weight of the world is on your shoulders, and there's all these people paying attention.
A lot of people clam up.
But you either have it or you don't.
The question is, does she have it?
All right, let's ask Jeff, is she going to go on Rogan?
She's got eight days.
You're right.
Eric?
Absolutely not.
Guy, is Kamala going to go on Rogan, yes or no?
I don't think so.
Alex, in-house diplomat?
No.
You could have said could be, maybe, but I think you're right.
Best part from Madison Square Garden, for me, because I'm a national security nerd, is when it comes to the president speaking honestly about the idiots in the administration.
Cut three.
I saw the other day a report that they issued that if we end up in a war with China, we cannot win.
We're not strong enough.
So I said to myself, assuming that's true, how stupid are you to put out a report like that?
How stupid.
Why would you put out a report?
Then they'll say, oh, Trump is not truthful.
No, I'm smart.
You don't put out reports like that.
And it's not true.
We would kick their ass.
It's not true.
That's the Commander-in-Chief we need back.
Let's continue the discussion.
National Security, fake Nazis, real Nazis.
This is America First.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald J. Trump.
Are you a patriot?
Do you love your country?
If you are a patriot, if you love your country, and somebody told you incessantly every waking hour that there's a leading politician in your nation who is a wannabe despot,
An individual who wants to imprison his rivals, who wants to use the powers of the greatest government in the world as a weapon against those he disagrees with.
What would you do?
Because this is not a hypothetical situation.
This is exactly what half the nation has been told for the last nine years.
I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all over the country.
Maybe there will be.
People need to start taking to the streets.
This is a dictator.
You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there's unrest in our lives.
Enemies of the state.
Show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful.
Do something about your dad's immigration practices, you feckless.
When they go low, we kick them.
How do you resist the temptation to run up and wring her neck?
Biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized right up to the right.
I thought he should have punched him in the face.
I said, even if you lost, he insulted your wife.
He came down the escalator and called Mexicans rapists and murders.
He said, well, what do you think I should have done?
I said, I think you should have punched him in the face and then gotten out of the race.
He would have been a hero.
I'd like to punch him in the face.
I said if we were in high school, I'd take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him.
Punch some people in the face!
When was the last time an actor assassinated a president?
They're still gonna have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump, and that's a fact.
Look as his character is stabbed to death.
Where is John Wilkes Booth when you need him?
I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House.
A Missouri state senator is under investigation by the Secret Service after saying she hopes President Trump is assassinated.
I will go and take Trump out tonight.
And if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd.
And you push back on them and you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere.
And sadly, the domestic enemies to our voting system and our honoring our Constitution are right at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
They're not going to stop before Election Day in November and they're not going to stop after Election Day.
And that should be, everyone should take note of that on both levels, that this isn't, they're not going to let up and they should not.
If you think we're rallying now, you ain't seen nothing yet.
It's quite stunning.
That's just a two and a half minute montage of the last nine years.
But the span of individuals from Kamala Harris to Nancy Pelosi to Madonna and the chronological breadth from literally the day I started work in the White House on January the 21st of 2017 to just a few weeks ago is nine years.
Think about that.
The day after the inauguration, we have one of the most famous women in the world say, I have dreamt a lot about blowing up this building, the White House, where the man chosen by 64 million Americans was elected to be the president.
And then we have what?
Just last week, that peculiar situation happened.
What happened?
I was listening to my friend Chris Plant.
We had this announcement across the media.
Kamala Harris is making a big announcement at the Naval Observatory at the Vice President's residence.
Can you remember the last time any Vice President made an announcement at the Naval Observatory where the incumbent Vice President resides?
And there's all kinds of peculiar conspiracies and scenarios.
Is she withdrawing from the race because it's going so badly for her?
Is Joe Biden resigning and gifting her the presidency for the last week before the election?
No.
Instead, She gets up in front of a podium that looks almost exactly like the presidential podium, and that's on purpose because the vice presidential seal is almost exactly the same as the great seal of the president.
And she's standing in front of a building that looks remarkably like the official entrance to the west wing of the White House.
The same architectural design.
To what?
Make a pseudo-prop?
As if she were already the president?
And then is it about her policies?
Is it about her campaign?
Is it about the war in the Middle East and the Israeli strikes on Iran?
No.
It is a despicable assault on the fabric of our republic by calling the current leader of the opposition a fascist A fascist from the vice presidential podium, quoting the disgrace to the Marine Corps, who is John Kelly, fired by the president as his chief of staff, who likewise is reinforcing the narrative.
But for a moment, play act with me, if you will, the fact that you're not a Republican, you're not a patriot, you're not a libertarian.
You're not a conservative or a Trump supporter.
You're a Democrat voter or you see yourself as a Democrat voter for whatever reason it may be.
Your parents, your grandparents, your socioeconomic standing or what you were indoctrinated into in college, in school, in the workplace.
And you have been told for nine years from Madonna to To the podium at the vice presidential residence.
That Hitler can take the nation.
What is Kamala doing?
What is Nancy?
What is Chuck Schumer?
What are all the mainstream media talking heads doing?
They're providing a permissive environment for another Ryan Routh, for another Matthew Crooks to take action.
I mean, if you were a German citizen who believed in the legal and fair representation of the German people and you're against genocide in World War, If somebody told you in 1936,
1937, that this trumped-up little Austrian corporal is about to become the Chancellor of Germany, inaugurate a Third Reich, and then result in the deaths of 60 million people in a world war spanning from the Channel To China?
And Japan?
And that he'd create death camps?
Where Jews, Catholic priests, the handicapped, would be gassed to death?
Wouldn't you think about, maybe, if you had the possibilities...
To take up arms against that threat to your nation and the world?
The Democrats have been told that my former boss is a threat to America and to the world, and this time a global war that would involve nuclear weapons.
But of course they do this.
Because for them it's not about representing you.
It's not about truth.
How can it be about truth?
When you deny the existence of God there is no truth.
There is only that.
Which keeps you in power.
Just as the great George Kennan wrote in his 14-page classified telegram that became the seminal article, The Sources of Soviet Conduct in 1946.
Truth is whatever serves the interests of the party.
He was talking about the Communist Party of the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin.
But now, that description applies to the Democrat Party.
What can we do about it?
How serious is the threat for the next eight days?
Can we fix it?
We'll talk about that with our good friend Jim Carafana for the rest of the hour.
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I'm Sebastian Gorka, and this is America First.
So yesterday we learned that Donald Trump's former chief of staff,
John Kelly, a retired four-star general, confirmed that while Donald Trump was president, he said he wanted generals like Adolf Hitler had.
Donald Trump said that because he does not want a military that is loyal to the United States Constitution.
He wants a military that is loyal to him.
He wants a military who will be loyal to him personally, one that will obey his orders even when he tells them to break the law or abandon their oath to the Constitution of the United States.
Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler!
I remember when that announcement was announced, that she's doing a press at the Naval Observatory, the Vice President's residence, and there's all kinds of rumor mill, rumint, oh my gosh, she's withdrawing, the campaign is cratering, or Biden's making her president so we can have her president for just a couple of months.
But no, it was the hoary old Hitler, Hitler, Hitler.
What does that do for American politics, for the way we are looked upon from outside by our friends, our allies, and our enemies?
Our in-studio guests will give us all the answers.
We are delighted to have him back in the studio after a long absence.
We pined for him during his regular slots on Friday.
We've got him for the whole rest of the hour.
He's senior counsel to the conservative mothership, the president of the Heritage Foundation, to Kevin Roberts.
He's our good friend, Colonel Dr.
Jim Carrafano.
Hey, Jim, good to have you back.
It is good.
You know, I'm a historian by training because that's where we're in each other at National Defense University.
We should start by reminding people how truly evil Adolf Hitler actually was.
So we can make this easy.
I know nobody reads books anymore.
It's such a quaint notion, right?
There's a wonderful book by a guy named Gerhard Weinberg.
And Weinberg wrote the massive history of World War II. But then he wrote this little book...
It's called Visions of Victory.
And what he went through is he went through the official doctrines of all the major fighters of World War II, the US, the British, the Germans, the Japanese, and he said, this is what the world would look like if they had won.
Wow, so an alternate history.
No, it's not an alternate history.
It's their actual documents that these are our plans, that if we win the war, this is what the world will look like.
And if you read the one on Germany, it's absolutely stunning.
And you would say, like, if people like Lindbergh and other America First people had read this stuff and recognized that it was real, they would have been the first into the pit.
So, I mean, literally, he had a master plan for the entire I heard the greatest popular historian on Tell us that Hitler was provoked into all by Churchill and Hitler's the...
Are you telling me Hitler's not the victim of World War II, Mr.
Historian?
No, no.
Actually, if you...
And again, if you actually read their documents, these are all proactive...
These aren't responding to Churchill or anything.
These are proactive documents.
And, you know, I don't think a lot of sensible people would dispute the Holocaust, which, by the way, was more than about killing Jews.
It was literally killing all the population which was considered useless or disruptive.
So it was Jews, communists, Catholics, gays.
And they knew the numbers.
They knew the numbers were in the many tens of millions, and that was fine with them.
But it didn't stop there.
I mean, literally, they were going to enslave All of Eastern and Central Europe and Russia, this was going to be a giant slave population.
The ultimate refers to them.
Right.
And then their plans for the United States were not good, right?
So this is, if you could envision the most horrific Game of Thrones guy, right?
And how horrific they wanted to, like, worse than the, whatever they were, the dark guys that came from the North.
This was...
This was literally maybe the most evil human being on the...
Even more evil than Genghis Khan.
Because, like, give Genghis his due.
You know, when Genghis walked in, like, you got a choice.
It's like, you don't listen, I come in, I kill everybody.
Okay, you get me now?
But the other thing is, I come in, you just let me in?
Fine.
I put a guy in charge.
You know, you pay some taxes.
And then, you know, have a nice day, right?
Hitler had this master...
Literally, it was a utopian vision of a perfect world.
Without Jews, and which was ethnically pure.
But Hank, what has this got to do with the Naval Observatory?
Well, but this is the whole thing.
If you're going to call somebody Adolf Hitler, you know, just take a deep breath and realize what you're doing.
You're basically saying they're the most evil human being that ever lived.
And the credibility issue is the guy was president for four years.
So I had this...
You do this all the time.
I mean, you're traveling the world the whole time.
But I'm doing, because, you know, we're days away from an election, suddenly foreign news agencies remember America and they send teams here.
Right.
I do these long interviews about what happens.
And I get this, you know, so what happens if he wins?
Is he going to give Putin the keys to Kiev?
And I have to say to these people who are in their 30s, their 40s, I say...
Were you alive when my boss was the president?
Did we dissolve NATO? Was there war in the Middle East?
I mean, it's incredible that we have to remind people this isn't some stranger from the hinterland.
He was president.
Right.
And so I've been having—actually, this is why I haven't been on the show very much, because I've been having this conversation for over a year, traveling all over the world, and I get these questions all the time.
I'm like, well, what's he going to do?
And I said, well, you know, people say, well, if he's elected, he'll be unbounded.
And I go, well, you obviously don't understand our president, who's never been bounded, right?
If he wanted to do something, he would have done it.
So I understand.
And you know me.
I'm not a political person.
I'm not a Republican.
I'm not a Democrat.
But I understand why they're doing it, because there's no other gas in the tank.
But I've got to ask you, since you travel the world and you're off again, People, especially in Europe, whose grandparents suffered under Hitler, who know a thing or two about war, when they hear a current person in the administration say things like, he'll be like Hitler, what do foreigners in your sphere of national security, do they say, what's going on in America?
I mean, what's their reaction?
I'm curious.
Well, you have to remember, you know, most people weren't alive when Hitler was alive and have very dim memories of World War II. And for a lot of people, it's just another thing.
It's a word, right?
I mean, they don't...
But even in Europe, they don't think it's weird?
So it's interesting.
So, you know, people, for example, that have lived under communism, they're like, they're not excited about...
The vision of socialists and communists running your country.
So Europe's about a third, a third, a third.
I mean, a third of it is just like America and our liberals.
They've drunk the same Kool-Aid.
They'll believe anything.
If they told you tomorrow that Trump is actually an alien from another planet, they would believe that, right?
A third are...
You know, they're nervous and skeptical because, on the one hand, they did see Trump be president for four years.
The world didn't come to an end.
On the other hand, they're bombarded with the same kind of crazy media we are.
And they don't have Fox News and everything else to counter.
And a third are like, oh, my God, this guy will be the savior of all mankind.
I mean, they're just...
They're like, he's going to save us from the communists.
The Russians are never coming back.
Finally, we'll have a world leader that thinks woke is stupid and thinks that energy prices ought to come down.
It's like, oh, they pray at night that he wins.
The one thing we do have to get over is this notion that somehow...
If you're skeptical about how the war in Ukraine is fought or, you know, what NATO should look like or everything or anything, that you're somehow, you're a Putin lover, right?
Right.
And this is, you know, utter nonsense.
Look, nobody wants to turn the world over to Putin.
We'll discuss momentarily.
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My name is Jerry Wortski.
I'm 94 years old.
And survivor of Auschwitz and the Dead Marches.
Adolf Hitler invaded Poland when I was nine years old.
He murdered my parents and most of our family.
I know more about Hitler than Kamala Gulewe know in a thousand lifetimes.
For her to accuse President Trump of being like Hitler is the worst thing I've ever heard in my 75 years living in the United States.
I know President Trump, and he would never say this, and Kamala Harris knows this.
She owns my parents and everybody else who was murdered by Hitler, an apology for repeating this lie.
Jerry Walski, family killed by Hitler, survived the death camps on the ad that was released on Friday.
He rolled up his shirt sleeve to show the tattoo he received in one of Hitler's camps as a child, saying it's the worst thing he's ever heard in his 74 years, calling President Trump, the man who recognized Jerusalem, moved the embassy there, Hitler.
That's the deep wound that is affected by those who use this slur against The man who is currently the leader of the opposition.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
This is America First.
Jim, again, you know, I'll do the pricey for you.
You're not doing politics.
You know, you are somebody who understands national security, foreign policy.
But let's talk about this as just Americans.
Right.
Doesn't this really do damage to the fiber?
So let's say, okay, the conservative wins in eight days' time.
Then...
We're still in a place, culturally, where it has been okay for nine years to call a leading politician Hitler.
Doesn't that hurt America?
You know, I think we've ripped open that wound and it's so raw and bleeding that It's time to heal and come out the other side.
Because I think what we've seen is...
What it's really done is completely damage her credibility.
He was four years.
He obviously wasn't Hitler.
We actually have Hitlers in the world.
The guys that run Hamas.
The guys that run Hezbollah.
The guys that run Iran.
They're actually really Hitler.
Has Biden or Harris ever said, these people are Hitler?
No, of course not.
So I think...
I think the credibility issue is...
That point is so kind of like, you know, stop the presses.
You call the guy who you're running against Hitler, despite there being no death camps, no Jews targeted when he was president, but the people who are actually fascists that murdered 1,200 Jews in one day, I'm curious.
Why can't the administration call them Hitler?
Because they are.
I mean, they're Islamofascists.
Why is that impossible?
Well, I mean, it's the obvious answer.
This isn't about trying to be accurate in a description of somebody's character and personality.
It's about trying to win an election.
And all they have in the tank is they can't run the record.
Because that's not credible, right?
Because look at all the top issues.
Freedom of speech, the economy, crime, immigration.
They're underwater on all of them.
So they can't run on that.
And then we can run on change.
We're going to have change.
But you were in office for four years.
So it's very difficult for somebody to say, credible, oh, well, you're going to do things completely differently than you did the last four years, particularly when you can't actually name anything you would do differently.
So what do you have?
What you have is you cannot vote for the other guy because they are so truly evil that it doesn't matter how bad or incompetent I am, you have to vote for me because you really don't have a choice.
That's the argument.
I'm sure it sells very well with people who already believe that and are going to vote, you know, for her anyway.
But don't we think that, I mean, in the last few days, elections are usually won in the middle, right?
Does that resonate with independence?
Not very clever.
First of all, I don't know how much of a middle there is in America.
Let's say the undecided.
For somebody who travels around Europe a lot, it's really interesting because in Europe, when politics fragment into division, you form a new political party.
So we have, like, five right-wing parties and six left-wing parties.
And then we have a coalition government with, like, three right-wing parties and one super left-wing.
Right.
In the United States, we can't do that.
We have two political parties.
We're locked into it.
And you have to pick a side.
You have to be in a camp.
And their two camps are conservatives or progressives.
And so there's not a lot of space for people who are just kind of undecided.
You have to choose things.
And if you're 80-20...
It's the Darwin test, right?
I want to survive.
And am I going to pick somebody because they scratch a very key issue?
Oh, she's a woman.
I have to vote for a woman.
So I'm going to ignore her.
The dining room table and the price of my food and my retirement fund and the crime rate in my community.
And I'm going to ignore all that because she's a woman or because on this one issue she's right.
Or if I'm a Jew, am I actually going to say, well, you know, I always vote Democrat.
And so, OK, these people fund Jew hate and they support Jew hate.
But I'm going to vote for them anyway because...
I think the credibility thing is an enormous stressor on that.
I wanted to repeat it because he mentioned it so rapidly.
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What were they actually planning and what would the bad guys have done if they'd won?
I always said it when I was teaching, read the primary sources and listen to what the bad guys said.
All right, come in with airs, please.
Well, I'm responding to one general who made egregious comments that are simply not true, that are manufactured.
If they were true, obviously the American people would have known about it before then.
You all know how the White House was covered.
There were no secrets at that White House related to what the president was saying or thinking.
This is, once again, we're in October of an election year, and people associated with a military-industrial complex or Every other facet of government which has been incapable of controlling and manipulating Donald Trump is once again seeking to throw a curveball to the American people.
That is somebody who was a former colleague of mine in the White House, Nick Ayers, not exactly a full-throated America First Trumpster, making a comment about...
A former Marine General's lambasting of President Trump and calling him a wannabe dictator.
I'm going to comment on that with some inside information momentarily.
So I'm going to read to you a tweet.
And this isn't about politics.
This is about the flag officer court in America.
This is from the great Mark Levin on Thursday.
The real John Kelly, Chief of Staff to the President.
Here's what a knowledgeable former White House staffer just texted me about John Kelly and his disastrous times Chief of Staff.
Quote, The irony of John Kelly claiming Trump was dictatorial is almost too rich to digest.
He personified a Napoleon complex in all his excesses.
He daily had to approve guests to the Navy mess.
Approved or denied requests by staff to use the White House exercise facility, insisted on signing off on all newspapers and magazine subscriptions, and demanded a daily summary of all websites visited by senior personnel.
personnel.
He was out of control, an obsessive control freak, insecure, past the point of paranoia.
He refused to share phone logs with the president if they contained names he didn't want him speaking to.
Now, I've disclosed here on the show, Jim, that he's the reason I had to leave the administration.
When did this happen?
Because I've worked with the military for, I don't know, 20, 30 years.
Most of the guys I work with, until recently, I didn't know Some of them said to me, I don't vote.
Not because I'm lazy, but out of principle.
Did something change radically with regards to our senior personnel in the last decade or two?
Well, I'd say yes.
I don't think that's the Kelly issue, and I can talk about that.
I think the Kelly thing, and this is somebody who knew Kelly as the secretary, and then when he went over to the chief of staff, there's this presumption that because somebody is a successful general, that they're going to be a successful businessman, they're going to be a successful politician.
And sometimes that's true, but it's not always true.
You know, Eisenhower was a very successful politician.
Yeah.
But he had, in his skill set, not only the competencies of generalship, but he understood the dynamics of how politics works.
But that's unusual.
It is.
And so, actually, very rarely do you see four-star generals that wind up being big, successful companies.
As a matter of fact, I can name on one hand the guys that actually were successful in the business world.
And most of them are atrocious as politicians, because it's a very different environment.
And to be fair, I mean, sometimes I took issue with the president, like, well, I got my general—I mean, Obama does this, too—as if these guys or girls are automatically going to be successful in the political world.
I thought Kelly would have been and was a fine secretary of Homeland Security because it actually was very military-like in a lot of ways.
It was a very mission-oriented organization.
I remember when they had somebody jump the fence at the White House, and Kelly walked down to the White House, and he had the Secret Service walk him through what happened, so we could understand that.
Very general, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, right?
After action report.
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But when he was named Chief of Staff, I'm being brutally honest, I was saying, like, I don't think this is going to work.
He's not a guy out of a political world.
Because that's a job for some to understand politics.
Politics, right.
And so what you saw, in my opinion, from an outsider, talking to folks like you who watched this happen, is somebody who tried to make the political system conform to the rigor and structure that he wanted.
And as that increasingly proved unworkable, he got increasingly frustrated with that.
My favorite story about Kelly was after he left office, I was in a thing once, and somebody asked him, he said, what are you most proud of?
He said, we talked to President of a lot of stupid stuff.
And there's two things about that comment that's really interesting.
One is, it's like, well, good for Donald Trump that he would have somebody in the room who disagreed with him, and if they made a good argument, he would listen to them.
Like, bad comment on you to presume, right, that you're right and, you know, the president's wrong.
So I never—I always felt—I was always worried that that was going to be a train wreck, and it was.
I am, like a lot of people, incredibly disappointed that this story appears now for the incredibly obvious reason that it's just like the Hitler thing and the article and in The Atlantic and all this other stuff.
It's just, you know— Late throwing spaghetti at the wall, trying to stick to create this narrative that Trump really is the evil.
And look, I mean, every single ounce of politics has been purged from both our bodies at this point.
We both know this person, you a lot closer than I do.
We both watched him in action.
And if there's one thing we can say is, this is a good man who wants to do good things for this country.
You know about President Trump?
Yes, you may not like some of the things he says, you may not like how he tries to do things, but to impugn his genuineness of love of this country, and the difference between Harris and she would love America if America looked just like Trump loves America because he wants America to look like the way we want it.
So this is what I said to people for the last nine years, and it will never be believed by the mainstream media or anyone else who has a deed behind their name.
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She made an announcement during a recent interview which should, well, make everyone relax unless they live in the real world.
What is Kamala's answer to the Middle East?
Here's a listen.
How would you move toward a ceasefire?
What do you think the United States should be doing?
So first of all, look, it's gonna be hard.
It's gonna be difficult.
But we have got to get this war over with.
We gotta get the hostages out.
We need the war to end.
In fact, we're sending Tony Blinken, Secretary of State, out next week to go and meet with the parties there.
Oh, that's okay.
She's sending out Tony Blinken because that's worked so well for the last year in the Middle East.
Can it be fixed?
What needs to be done?
And what needs to be done inside the five-sided playpen in our intelligence community?
Jim, we've got some shocking things I have to get your reaction to.
I don't think anybody has been calmed by that, I'm sending out Tony Blinken to the Middle East.
We have this news.
Let me run two past you.
Israeli war plans leaked out of the Pentagon.
Somebody inside the Pentagon betrayed our closest ally in the Middle East.
And then we have this verified by Lloyd Austin on Thursday that North Korean troops have been sent to Russia.
Now, 20 years ago, 30 years ago, 40 years ago, if we'd read that in a Tom Clancy novel, we would have said, Tom, North Korean troops in the Soviet Union, are you nuts?
So give me your professional reaction to just the leak story and the North Koreans.
Yeah, but both these do, back to what we've been talking about, about the way that Harris is campaigning, is this guy is so evil you can't vote for him.
And the great frustration, I think, with even people that want to vote for us is, but how are you going to fix What's your alternative?
And you're not even taking responsibility for the problems that you helped create.
And they did help create both those problems.
The Middle East is on fire today.
October 7th happened.
All the dead people in Gaza happened.
The destruction of Lebanon happened.
Hostages, tiny little children, one of whom looks exactly like my grandson, has still been missing for a year.
All of that happened because of the Biden-Harris administration.
Because of how they funneled money to Iran in the hopes to rearm that.
And while they did that, completely ignored everything they knew was going on.
That Anruh was a tool of Hamas.
That Hezbollah was not constrained by the UN at all.
That this was all building to something.
And they ignored all that.
And they don't have an answer.
And the thing is, as As proud as those of us who admire the people of Israel are in defending themselves and recognizing that they have defeated Hamas and they are defeating Hezbollah and they have scared the hell out of the Iranians, right?
None of that really gets fixed unless we fix the Iran problem.
And she hasn't given one sentence I've diagnosed the problem in Iran and here's how to fix it.
It's the same way in Ukraine.
There's a lot of talk about Ukraine among some conservatives.
I personally believe 80% of the concern, if you really parse it all, is the frustration with how we dealt with this.
The fecklessness that led to the war.
The throwing money at the problem without a strategy.
There's no real plan to wind this up.
There's no real plan to make sure that NATO is secure and that our allies are paying their 2%.
Nothing of that from the administration.
That's what we're really angry about.
And again, from them, nothing.
And then we see these added elements of desperation on the part of Putin to try to make this war go his way.
And if it's Harris, I think it's only going to get worse because he knows he'll wear them down.
She will fold in a New York minute.
So qualify these two stories.
Qualify the DOD leak and the North Koreans deploying to Russia.
Well, the DOD leak is a two-part problem, right?
It's not just that our policies have been terrible.
We have riddled this administration, which people are actually pro-Iranian.
So it's like we've hired Nazis to help fight World War II. So that's a huge, bigger-than-a-breadbox problem.
But all these things are linked.
Russia, China, Iran together.
And it's fear.
It is letting these guys unloose.
So there are these two scenarios.
Harris wins.
We're going to have a field day.
So we just wait for that day.
And then we start pushing her buttons.
Because she can say everything she wants.
But she has never led this country for a day.
And we blame Harris for a lot of things.
And she is complicit.
But she was never...
She was never the last person in the room.
Only the president is that.
Nobody knows how she's going to act.
And if you look at everything she did in four years, you think she's going to fold like a cheap suit, right?
So they're getting ready to start pushing those red buttons and watch her just melt down, right?
If Trump wins, they want to be in as strong a place as possible because they know the day of reckoning is coming.
So if you are the Iranians, You really have to worry that if Trump wins, that the day after the Israel is going to pound the living hell out.
Are we going to see, like, if he wins, God willing, something like the Reagan effect?
Because our hostages were released as the inauguration was happening.
I mean, are we going to see...
Or are we in a different geopolitical place?
I don't know.
Remember?
Oh, you would know this.
The famous old saying, the enemy gets a vote.
Yeah, the enemy gets a vote.
The Iranians get a choice.
Right.
They might fall to their knees, not in public, but in private, and start pleading for mercy.
Where do you want us to deliver the hostages?
Right.
They might say, OK, we're in nuclear power now.
What are you going to do about it?
Right, right, right.
I don't know.
What is Putin going to do?
Is he going to take a peace deal on day one?
I mean, you know, what are the Chinese going to do?
What are the North Koreans?
Look, the guy who gets the stupider word for me really is Kim.
Because, dude, okay.
What are you doing?
Exactly.
I mean, look.
Two weeks away from the election.
What are you doing?
Trump was ready to hand you the get-out-of-jail-free card.
This is so...
It's like Saddam Hussein believing our ambassador.
Hey, that Kuwait thing, that's an internal matter.
How dumb are you?
Trump was ready to hand Kim the pathway to a successful future.
And I really believe the North Koreans were just waiting to see if he won, right?
And now they've done this.
So even if Trump wanted to come back and say, okay, Now let's just get this finished.
They've created this impossible situation for themselves because they've embroiled themselves in with the Russians.
It's just nuts.
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All right, crystal ball time.
We've got two minutes left with you, Jim.
Let's say the Conservatives, the good guys win, God willing.
We know what President Trump's gonna do because he's done it before.
So, you know, strengthen NATO, rebuild the military, get the work CRT DEI garbage out there, build the wall, yada, yada, yada.
We get it.
What is the one issue given the last four years in national security that will be the greatest challenge to him?
Well, that's interesting, because I actually don't think there is one, because the guy was president for four years, and I think a lot of these issues he knows exactly what he needs to do.
So there's nothing really novel about January the 20th next year if he's commander-in-chief?
I think there's some intriguing, fun things.
Look, he's going to hammer the Iranians, because that's the problem in the Middle East.
He's going to secure the border.
He's going to squash the Venezuelans.
We get all that.
He's going to make sure that NATO is secure.
And then he's going to really turn and press on the Chinese.
I think the interesting things are Africa, where we're going to add a half a billion.
We can either live with the consequences of that.
What about Mexico?
Mexico, I think, is easy for Trump.
We have a lot of influence.
He knows how to negotiate.
Guys, I think he can handle Mexico.
Taiwan?
Again, I think the question is, once we're back in the race in terms of military deterrence, the Chinese can't outrun that.
So I don't think that's a big challenge.
People think that Africa's lost to Russia and China.
It's not.
And people think we don't care, but we do.
You know, half a billion people, it's going to affect the entire globe.
We can engage with that in a way.
So there's lots of things we can do.
And that's an interesting...
Space is the other...
But he'll have Elon inside the building.
Well, God bless.
Because, you know, right now, the China competition is maritime.
It's naval, right?
That's the big military competition.
But in five years, that tipping point is going to shift, and it's going to be less about the surface warfare, and it's going to be more about what's going on in space.
And that is a key competition that we really have to win.
What about revitalizing the esprit de corps of our services?
You know what?
I think they'll bounce back.
Boom.
You know, I lived through this through Reagan.
We didn't really realize how...
How resilient.
It's like a slave when they take the chains off.
You don't realize how awesome it is to be free.
I remember the day when they came to me and they said, throw the bums out of the military.
And so instead of getting rewarded for keeping people in the military, no matter how terrible they were, I got rewarded for getting rid of the Yahoos.
It was awesome.
Liberating.
So I think our military will bounce back in 60 seconds.
Especially if we put him on the board at West Point, because I think he went there, didn't you?
I did go there.
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