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Oct. 18, 2024 - Sebastian Gorka
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Doug Collins LIVE: Everybody's a Republican now
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Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
All right.
It's good to be back with you today.
It's also good to be sitting in the chair here at the command center.
Seb's out at a retirement celebration in North Carolina.
He said to send along his best wishes down at Fort Bragg.
Still bragged for most of us as we go through this, but he's down there.
Doing a retirement, and I am sitting in today.
Glad to be here.
We've got a lot to talk about today.
We've got also some great guests lined up.
You're going to be seeing a lot of folks.
Tom Holman, good friend.
We're going to talk immigration.
Since it's now being brought up, we're going to look at that.
Barry Loudermilk.
I don't normally say if you can get it all.
Sit down right now and start taking notes.
But next hour, Barry Loudermilk is going to be with us for two segments.
You do not want to miss this segment with Barry Loudermilk.
Barry has been on the House Admin Committee, who has been investigating what happened on the J6 Committee.
Not January 6th and what happened there, but what happened to that J6 production that Nancy Pelosi put together and Liz Cheney.
There are some bombshells being dropped out of this.
You need to hear this.
Hear it straight from the person who has found this.
The Democrats thought they hid all this.
The Democrats thought they got rid of all this.
You know, it was worse than the Watergate tapes.
And guess what?
Barry found it.
There's been a lot of great reporting on this, but we're going to hear it straight from Barry this afternoon.
You won't want to miss that.
Of course, John Lott's going to be with us.
Also, one of the areas that we've got to look at is Pennsylvania.
Pennsylvania is coming down to Pennsylvania.
There's a lot of our states out there.
You've got Georgia, you've got North Carolina, Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, and Michigan.
But Pennsylvania is really coming down to it.
Guy Reschenthaler is going to be with us, and he's going to give us a firsthand report of what's going on in the state of Pennsylvania.
And then John McLaughlin is going to be with us.
John is pollstered for the president.
He's been polling races all over the world, literally, from Israel, from Netanyahu back to here.
John's going to be with us in this show as well.
So, look, a lot of stuff going on.
But I've got to just set the tone here, folks.
Everybody's a Republican now.
Everybody's a Republican now.
Just look at what's going on as you look at the campaigning that is happening in these swing states.
And if you don't believe me, just look at here.
We're gonna play clip one.
Cut one.
I'm a Republican.
And I'm a Democrat.
Our marriage, pure bliss.
But on politics, we just don't agree.
Except for Bob Casey.
He's independent.
That's right.
Casey's leading the effort to stop corporate greedflation and price gouging.
Casey bucked Biden to protect fracking.
And he sided with Trump to end NAFTA and put tariffs on China to stop them from cheating.
So in this house, we agree.
It's Bob Casey who's doing right by Pennsylvania.
I'm Bob Casey and I definitely approve this message.
Are you believing it, folks?
I mean, this is Bob Casey.
This is the Senate race that has been watched and watched and watched.
McCormick up there has been going at it.
The mainstream writers will want you to know that Casey's walking away with this race.
Dave McCormick has no chance.
Dave McCormick's not going to win.
Dave McCormick's an outsider.
I don't know about y'all.
I am sick and tired.
And tired and sick.
However you want to put it.
Of mainstream media and what they're doing to actually...
Take themselves, not just be a liberal bias, but they're actually going to what I consider in-kind contributions.
I mean, when you take what they're doing and trying to spin the messages coming out of these swing states, but then you take what they did with Harris on 60 Minutes and take the word salad, which is not even a good word salad, and try to make it into something that is coherent on a question that wasn't even asked.
And then they put it together.
That is an in-kind contribution.
That is making a political ad for a candidate.
That's not legal.
You can't do that without reporting it.
And I'll bet you bottom dollar that they're not going to be reporting it.
But notice what happened there, folks.
Casey is putting out an ad 18 days before the election, and he is showing Donald Trump.
And if you go back and see this ad, and if you're just listening to me and you're not able to see right now, go look at it on YouTube, Rumble, wherever you need to look at it on the show for America First.
But when I want you to look at it, look at the visuals here.
All these visuals, you would never know that Casey is a Democrat.
That Casey has voted with the Biden and Harris administration 95% of the time.
He has not been a outspoken independent.
What a load of malarkey.
To use a Joe Biden-ism.
It's just not right.
It's not true.
So what you're seeing here, what does that tell you?
And I think this audience knows better than most because you're on top of it.
You're listening.
You're watching.
You're staying vigilant.
You're doing the things that Dr.
Gorka asked us to do.
But what it means is that they're not truthful about the polls that are coming out.
What it means is, especially in Pennsylvania, the polling is not being reflective of what they're seeing internally.
Later in the show, we're going to talk to John McLaughlin.
When John gets on, we're going to talk about the difference between the public polls, the New York Times, Sienna, the Quinnipiac poll, the other polls that you all get listened to and you all hear about.
Those are polls for public consumption.
And there's a difference in the public consumption polls and the ones that are being paid for by the campaigns that you never see, that you're not going to see, because they're done differently.
They're targeting different folks.
They're looking at different things.
But for you to understand what's actually happening here, You need to understand that Casey's polling has to be showing that Trump is stronger than they're letting on in Pennsylvania.
It means that McCormick is coming up and those numbers where we've seen it get into two to three probably is closer to even or one.
And you're looking at that, so what does Casey have to do?
Casey realizes that Harris is a drag on this ticket.
He realizes that Biden was a drag on this ticket.
He realizes that there's a lot of people in Pennsylvania that are going to vote for Donald Trump, and they're not going to vote for Casey because they view Casey with Harris-Biden.
So when you look at this right now, you've got to, I mean, this is good news, but it doesn't mean this.
Please hear me, though.
If you're in Pennsylvania listening to me, one, I want you to call us, 1-833-33-GORCA, 833-334-6752, please.
I want to hear from you if you're in these swing states, especially...
Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Michigan.
Let's talk today because we're getting down to the times that we've got to have this.
But I'm just telling you, there's reason to be hopeful here because Casey would not be running the I'm independent ad if everything was good.
If his internal polls were showing him up five, six, eight points, they wouldn't be running this ad.
So, look at this for what it is.
Now, it just falls into line of what we've seen from Harris.
All along, Harris has tried to run, I've said it many times before, I call this the amnesia ticket.
The amnesia ticket is Harris and Waltz who want you to forget everything that they've done.
And they're pretending that they've forgotten.
Because what has happened is the American people now in these last 18 days have broke it down to two issues.
Two issues.
That's really it.
They broke it down to the economy and inflation, which I agree with President Trump.
We need to put those two together.
And the other one is, I'm going to put together, and that's immigration and security.
Immigration and safety.
However you want to look at those two.
All the other things that Democrats are trying to get you fixed on, like abortion and women's rights and democracy is in debt.
Last night, Al Smith dinner, we're going to get to it, but it just got brutal last night.
Kamala Harris, the first one to skip it since 1984.
I tell you what.
You call in, and if you want to call her, I'll give away one of my books, The Clock and the Calendar, to the first person that calls in and answers the question that who is the last presidential candidate to skip the Al Smith dinner up in New York.
You get the book.
We'll send it to you.
I'll sign it.
We'll send it to you.
But there's your question.
I know we've got Sandra up and calling.
We're going to get to you in just a few minutes.
But just be thinking about that.
Many of you right now, I know you're looking up what it is.
But it's a big thing.
She skipped it and then she had the audacity to just defend every Catholic by sending in a video that we're going to talk about more later as we go forward.
But look, we've got...
I just wanted to set the stage today.
Do not give up.
This is no time.
I've said to Republicans all across this country...
We're conservative, America first folks, you've got 18 more days and no sleep is required.
You cannot let up.
You cannot keep from getting out to vote, taking your friends to vote, and wherever it is legal in your state to do, please do it.
If it means that you can take people to the polls, take them to the polls.
If it means you can help them with their absentee ballot, get them an absentee ballot and take it.
If it's legal, do it!
I am tired of Republicans who just blame Democrats and talk about what they're doing and not doing what is legal.
So folks, Strap in.
If you haven't got it ready, if you don't think I'm excited, you get ready because we've got a long afternoon ahead of us here on America First.
Sitting in for Dr.
Gorka, this is Doug Collins.
You get ready because we're going to put out there what's really happening in this election and give you the behind-the-scenes stuff.
So we'll be right back here in just a minute.
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All right, we're back.
A lot going on.
Look, I know I got Sandra, Stephen, Dave, Steve, all waiting.
We're going to get to you in just a minute, but right now we have joining us one of our, one of my good friends, I know one of the friends of the United States and America First is definitely Tom Holmes, talking immigration and the craziness that's gone on here in the last little bit.
As we go, Tom, it's good to be with you again.
Thanks for having me, Doc.
Appreciate it.
That's good.
Let's just dive in here.
Did it offend you like it offended me this past week when former President Clinton was in my home state of Georgia and one never mentioned Lincoln Riley's name, but he said, yeah, here in Georgia you had somebody, the young lady who was killed, and if they'd have done better vetting, that might not have happened.
I wanted to just throw something through the TV when I first saw that.
But vetting is not the problem, is it, Tom?
No, well, vetting is part of the problem.
The problem is if they wouldn't open the border and let these people, unvetted people in the country, we wouldn't have this problem.
There's too many young women been raped and killed by illegal aliens that should never have been in this country.
And when they released them in the country, they violated the law.
The federal statute is clear.
When you arrive at our border without proper documentation, you shall be detained.
But this administration is releasing them by the millions.
Yeah.
And I think I want to bring up an issue that happened.
It's been reported heavily now.
Again, in this, quote, vetting issue, and DHS and state are sort of pawning their fingers at each other here.
Your opinion matters in this, and that was the Afghanistan, which we all know was a debacle with the 13 that were dead, but there was a lot more coattail effects to that, and those are the ones that got into the United States really with no background, no vetting.
They've come in, and now we've had one who was threatening an Election Day attack.
Tom, just being honest here, I mean, there are a lot of people concerned about this.
I believe that this is the next hidden problem that is not hidden.
We know it's probably there.
How big of a threat is this to not only elections, but major cities and other things with these probably terror cells that we've let in over the past three and a half years?
It's a big terrorist threat.
You know, even though I don't greatly respect the director of the FBI, Christopher Wray, even he's touched by it numerous times.
I think it's important that this administration, especially the southwest border, is a gateway to terrorism.
Look, they've already arrested just shy of 400 people on terrorist watch that's coming across the southwest border.
What's to scare people?
We've got 2.2 million gotaways.
2.2 million people paid more to the criminal cartels Not to turn themselves in, not to get a free airline ticket, not to get a free hotel room, not to get three meals a day, not to get free medical care.
2.2 million people paid more to get away and not get fingerprinted, not get vetted.
That just scared the hell out of everybody.
Tom, emphasize what you just said, because I think a lot of people don't realize that they're the ones that they pay to get let go, basically to walk across the border or swim across the river, however you want to put it, and then there are those who pay more so that they're let off, that there's a distraction or a diversion somewhere, and they put them off somewhere else so they can get in.
I don't think people understand the difference there.
Well, you pay two cartels two months after a month.
If you just want to get to the border and turn yourself in a green uniform, the cartel's job is done at the border.
However, if you want to get away, if you want them to get you to New York City or Chicago, some place without being arrested, without being fingerprinted, without being vetted, you've got to pay a hell of a lot more.
For instance, the Chinese National, they're paying about $45,000 if they want to get away.
So they're going to pay the cartels more not to take advantage of the free giveaway.
You pay less, you turn yourself in, the U.S. government's gonna fly you to the city of your choice on their dime, they're gonna put you in a free hotel room, they're gonna feed you three meals a day, get free medical care, and within six months you got work authorization.
Why did over two million people pay more to get away?
It's common sense what they're doing.
They didn't want to be vetted.
They didn't want to be fingerprinted.
Look, the rest of the people are in 80 different countries.
Some of these countries are sponsors of terror.
If you don't think a single one of the 2.2 million entered this country to get away didn't come from a country sponsored terror, then you're an idiot.
I mean, the laws of average says they're here.
And Christopher Wray Grieser here, I think it's a matter of time before they do something.
And I tell you what, when they do something, I want President Trump in the White House, not Kamala Harris.
Exactly right.
Well, one of the things, too, you know, sometimes we always talk about fiction, you know, being is more truthful in life.
And for years, the Clancy book, some of these stories have been talking about, you know, how they've been coming through our border.
They pay extra to get here.
You mentioned something, though, right then that I think also is...
We get this image from the mainstream media, Tom, and you've had a fight with this for years, that the only people coming across our southern border are these poor families from the El Salvador and Honduras and Mexico and others, just coming up to feed their kids and send money back home.
And the reality is, what you talked about, China.
We talked about Venezuela.
We talked about the Middle East.
Almost every country in the world has been represented at our southern border.
The Chinese in particular, now we've had drones flying over bases in Virginia and other places.
I believe there's a connection there, and I don't think we can not say that it couldn't come from the southern border.
No, 36,000 Chinese nationals of males of military age have been arrested by the United States Border Patrol in the past year, in one year.
That's more than what we arrested in the last 12 years combined.
Now, does anybody think 36,000 Chinese military aid are leaving China without the coordination and the approval of the Chinese government?
Of course they're not.
They're part of this.
They're complicit in this, and there's a reason why they're coming here.
You said they're looking over military bases.
They're flying spy balloons.
They're stealing our technology.
They are looking to destroy this country.
China's not our friend.
Either is Russia, U.S. and Afghanistan.
We brought thousands of Afghanistan and nationalists in this country.
Second to Mallorca said, oh, they're completely vetted.
Inspector General of the Department of Defense says they weren't properly vetted.
And look, I want people to know, when they say they vet people's terrorist database, most terrorists in this world aren't in any database.
Unless they're part of an ongoing investigation, unless they're caught on a T3 wiretap chatter room, or unless they're encountered on a battlefield by DOD and did a retina scan, we don't know who most terrorists are.
And in addition to that, do you think Lebanon, Syria, Russia, China, Tajikistan, do you think any of these countries are sharing any national security information in the United States?
No, there are enemies.
So when they say they're vetting, people understand that vetting is terrible.
And look how many men have been arrested in the last six months who have raped and killed women in this country.
And every single one of them Exactly.
I mean, it's almost like the mainstream, you know, the media and the Democrats want you to believe that the terrorists are carrying a card with them.
That, oh, I'm a terrorist, and it's like on the forums when you fill out sometimes, have you ever been convicted of a crime?
Have you ever thought about overthrowing the government?
I mean, it's just the dumbest things that we see.
Real quickly here, and we've got about a minute, a little over a minute here.
You mentioned talking about Lebanon and others, and I know there's been discussion in the Harris-Biden administration about letting Lebanon and some others and Palestinians in as well under special immigrant status.
Those are supposed to be temporary.
They're nowhere close to temporary, are they, Tom?
I've done this for 34 years.
I've never seen TPS, temporary protection status, end.
I've never seen SIV end.
They're supposed to be temporary as rules in the statute that were written by Congress, but this administration is not paying attention.
Even on the Republican administration, I'm going to say it.
I've never seen a temporary protective status get temporary.
They never leave.
They're always here.
And I'll say it again.
They're going to give special interest visas to these people that we can't properly vet from countries that hate us.
Who the hell would do that in their right mind?
They wouldn't.
Nobody would.
Hey, folks, that's why Tom comes on with us.
He tells us the truth.
And, Tom, thank you, buddy.
Keep the fight up.
We've got a lot to do.
We've got 18 days to put Trump back in the White House.
Thank you, buddy.
You got it, man.
Hey, folks, we'll be coming back here to take your calls here in just a second, but also, you know, what we've got going on here is this is a fight, and Tom is not kidding you with it.
You've got to keep vigilant.
You've got to stay on it.
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All right, we're back here in studio in the command and control room of Dr.
Gorka.
We're up here today, got the guys in the back playing the best bumper music we have going on.
And what's that smell?
It's the smell of Democrats being scared right now because they're watching Harris fall apart and get mad in the process.
It's pretty amazing to watch.
We're going to get to some more of this today, but I did promise that we'd get some phone calls.
So, Sandra, New Jersey, how are we doing?
Oh, good afternoon, Doug.
Welcome to the show.
I wanted to say that I'm very concerned about Kamala.
I believe what I saw with Brett there and also not showing up at the Al Smith dinner shows me that this woman Is not able to handle adversity.
I think what we saw on that interview with Brett Barr is an angry person, a smug person, an evasive person, an ill-at-ease person.
And I believe that that's the real Kamala.
The one we see smiling all over the place, that's not the real one.
And then I say, why did all the staff members quit?
And why do they all have to stand up when she walks into a room?
And you know what?
If she becomes president, They're gonna have to bow.
I mean, I'm so concerned about her.
I can't tell you.
She turns my stomach.
I don't trust her.
I think she's a fake, phony Floyd.
I really do.
And when I look at the difference between Donald Trump And her, it's like night and day.
And anyone who can't see it, I don't understand it, Doug.
Well, this is why we had to fight.
That's why you listen to this show.
That's why you've got to get out.
But also, Sandra, thanks for calling.
Folks, if you're listening to what Sandra said, this is a problem we've got to deal with.
If we don't, who will?
If you're not out there telling people what the truth is, showing them the actual facts of conservatives, talking about what we just talked about with Tom Homan about immigration, showing them these truths, then they're not going to know.
How will they know unless they hear?
It's the biblical abomination.
How will they know unless somebody tells them, folks, conservatives, I'm tired of conservatives talking to each other.
We need to listen and then go out.
Listen and then talk to others.
Listen and encourage each other.
Because if we don't do that, then all we get to do is have our gripe sessions and nothing changes.
You saw Harris as she truly is in that Brett Baer interview.
You've seen her as she's changed positions.
You've seen her when she can't do an interview with 60 Minutes and they have to freeze frame it and bring it back.
You've seen it when she actually went on soft interviews and said she wouldn't change anything.
These are the problems that we see coming along.
And we've got to be the ones to fix it.
And with that, let's go to Steve in Atlanta.
I think we may have a winner here.
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Steve.
Steve.
Hey, Doug, how are you doing today?
I'm good, buddy.
It's good to talk to you.
Good, good.
Yeah, Walter Bondale is correct, right?
That is it.
You get the book.
We'll be sending it to you.
Yay, thank you.
Okay.
Yeah, Tom Homan is spot on.
You can feel the frustration in that man's voice because he knows what's right, and he sees that things are wrong and evil.
I think the people that come across the board, I think we're being set up for something.
I really do.
I think it's in the works, and I think China has very much influence with too many politicians in this country.
And I do believe we're being set up for something.
Yeah, Steve, number one, thanks for calling in.
You got the right answer.
Walter Mondale was the last one, and he ended up losing the largest Electoral College vote ever to Ronald Reagan in 1984.
So that book is coming to you.
But, Steve, thanks for calling, and I want to just pick up on what you said.
I don't want to scare people.
I really – I'm not wanting to scare people, but you need to be – Vigilant.
You need to be aware of your surroundings.
It's about like walking at night in a big city, any big city, or being around your own property.
Being vigilant.
Knowing what's around you and knowing what is actually happening.
When you have these people, as Tom was talking about, and you heard the You know, not only anger in Tom's voice a little bit, but you heard the concern in his voice.
When you have these people coming here who are paying extra to get in, and we don't know where they are or what they're doing, they're living off the grid, they're living off false papers, they're doing and preparing for something.
They're not just here...
To come in, as he said, to get the benefits.
They're here for another purpose.
So we've got to have a government who is ready to do that as well.
We have an FBI. We have to have an intelligence community.
We have to have the people in place and a leader who actually understands it and not is just trying to placate the world as we go.
Brent, LA. Brent.
Great fighting Congressman Collins.
We're here ready to go today, Brent.
How we doing?
Well, I just finished watching the gut-wrenching, essential, inspirational, and motivational documentary about General Michael Flynn.
It's titled, Flynn, Deliver the Truth Whatever the Cost.
And it was screened by Justin Moon of Carr Firearms and Pastor Sean Moon at the Rod of Iron Freedom Festival in Pennsylvania.
And every patriot must watch and share it with friends and families who still demand to live free in our nation under God.
It clearly exposes and shows how Obama, Biden, Harris, the FBI, Department of Justice, Democrats, RINOs, and media have been waging a war on truth, justice, Brent, you got it.
That's what we've got to have.
You've got to be aware of what's going on.
Look, 833-334-6752.
Keep the calls up.
We'll be back in just a minute to continue this conversation.
You've got to be ready.
If you don't do it, who else will?
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All right, we're back here.
Doug Collins filling in for Seb Gorka today, who's at a retirement down in the great state of North Carolina at a military retirement out at Fort Bragg.
So congratulations on the retirement there for the gentleman that Seb is in there with.
But we're excited to fill in today.
We've got a lot of things going on.
We're going to get right back to our phone calls here.
We've got Stephen from Arizona.
Hey, Doug.
Thank you for taking my call.
No problem.
How are we doing?
How's Arizona looking?
Well, I'll tell you, I'm infuriated out here.
We're in a dogfight for Carrie Lake, and the thing that's really killing me, and you hit it spot on early in your show, people got to get off their butts and take action.
They can't just sit back and blame the Democrats, because we're seeing so much half-truth out here that people are buying into.
And they don't Google it.
They don't do any research.
I tell you, I'm just out there every day, everywhere I can.
I'm a disabled vet, and I'm just incensed.
You know, we're seeing the worst of all this illegal immigration here in Arizona and the economic impact.
And we see Gallego...
Lying through his teeth about how he is promising to take control of the border and fund police and all the very stuff that he voted against and is on record voting against.
It's insane that people are buying into this crap.
Stephen, before I let you go, are you seeing a difference in the Lake vote and the Trump vote?
I mean, I know I've seen the polls.
I'm just curious what you're seeing on the ground there.
You know what?
The same thing happened when she ran for governor last year.
Even with the Trump endorsement, people are just buying into the lies and the half-truths and the crap, and they're focused 100% on her stand on abortion.
And it's...
Everything that's coming out, they say she'll say anything to get elected.
Well, that's exactly what Kamala and Gallego and...
All these other people are doing is they're saying what people want to hear to get elected and people are buying it.
I mean, how stupid are they?
Yeah, well, you can't put a prize tag on that.
Steven, thanks for calling, buddy.
We appreciate you.
Keep it up there in Arizona.
Make sure people get out.
If you're listening in Arizona, you've got to get out and vote.
I mean, this is not even an issue.
Speaking of getting out and vote, we've got to turn to Pennsylvania.
Dave from Pittsburgh is on.
Dave, how are we doing?
I'm doing pretty good.
How are you, Doug?
Well, I'm feeling good, but I'm also, as I tell people, I'm a little bit edgy.
And for the next 18 days, I'm going to stay edgy.
Because I want people to not be comfortable and conservatives to get out and vote.
And especially in your state, just like in my home state, we've got a lot of work to do.
I'm worried as hell, Doug.
I am extremely worried.
The integrity of our elections last time around was a farce.
We're supposed to be a nation rule of law, and that does not exist where I live.
And a perfect example of that, state constitution here says that the legislature are the only people that have the authority to change state election law.
Well, we happen to have a certain...
State prosecutor decided on her own that she was going to rewrite state election law.
And she did so by telling the U.S. Postal Service to backdate thousands and thousands of mail-in ballots because they didn't get in on time.
And she used COVID as an excuse.
Do you think we're going to see anything?
Because I'm seeing that the mail-in ballots are up in Pennsylvania where they've actually been down in some other places.
Why do you see that is, just from your perspective on the ground?
I don't have an answer for that.
It's just I don't believe in mail-in ballots.
Here's the thing.
They have these drop boxes, right?
And another law states that any...
Ballots that are placed in those lockboxes have to be monitored 24-7 because of chain of custody.
Well, they threw that law right out the window.
There's nobody watching those lockboxes or those dropboxes.
That law.
Forget, you know, we are not a nation of laws.
We might write.
We write thousands of laws every year, man, but who follows them?
Nobody's following the law.
Well, and that goes back to the government.
If you've got a governor and you've got, you know, others in the legislature and attorney generals who are not following it, it's just going to be a problem.
Dave, thanks a bunch.
You keep fighting up there.
Don't grow disheartened.
You've got 18 days.
We're going to bring this thing home, okay?
All right.
Now, we're moving to another state that really used to be one that we always looked to.
Ohio, Ohio, Ohio is always going to be, which way is it going to go?
Well, it's going to go Trump, and it looks like hopefully it's going to go Marino as well.
But Liz from Columbus, welcome to the America First show.
Hi, Doug.
Hey, Liz.
How we doing?
We're doing well.
Listen, I want to address what you said about Getting out and talking to people.
I think you're absolutely spot on.
And it's not going to be done unless we do that and get out to talk to people.
But for the average conservative, we're too nice.
You know, we're not in their faces like they're in our faces all the time.
And I think, personally, it would be very helpful if there was some kind of training that we could get that would help us do this.
And it has to be done very, very carefully.
Yeah, I don't disagree.
I'm going to say something, and Liz, we're going to try this the rest of the show, okay?
I'm going to try and throw in some things on how to talk to people, and especially because you've got some out there that, you know, they don't like Trump, but they also don't like the economy.
They don't like the immigration border.
And we can talk about that a little bit, but Liz, you're exactly right.
And, you know, I appreciate you calling.
You've got to keep up the front.
Ohio has done a great job of that over the last few years, and we've got to pull it through and get Marino also in the Senate so we can get a good majority for Trump when he comes in.
But I want to, again, thank you for being a part.
Let me just hit something here real quick before we end toward the break here.
I believe that Republicans have got to get a new focus on something.
And that focus is that we tend to believe that elections happen every two years.
Conservatives and Republicans believe elections happen every two years, whereas Democrats believe they happen every day.
Okay, understand what I just said there.
Now, I want you to think about it.
I want you to ruminate on it.
And we're going to come back in a few minutes and we're going to talk about it.
But think about it.
We believe it happens every two years.
They believe it happens every day.
And that's a big difference in how we actually can communicate with people as we go forward.
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You don't want to miss it.
We'll be right back, though, to end this one.
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Disney looks glum.
Disney looks glum.
But look on the bright side, Chuck, considering how woke your party has become.
If Kamala loses, you still have a chance to become the first woman president.
Oh, folks, you've got to love it.
I mean, last night, if you've not—I don't know where you've been today, but if you have not picked up anything from the Al Smith dinner in New York yesterday, you've got to listen to it.
Trump was on, and we've talked about it in the first hour about—this hour about Harris not showing up.
Well, she shouldn't have showed up.
There's other clips we're going to have, you know, going on where—I mean, he just— Trump just put it in perspective.
He put this race in perspective.
He put all those—he even took pokes at himself.
He showed the kind of person that many of us know him to be.
It was very real.
It was very honest.
It was just—look, it was what those things were supposed to be.
Those are not the— The real serious down-to-earth.
You poke fun.
And it's satire.
It's the stuff that our country was based on.
And, I mean, you ought to say, if you look up the video there, Schumer's face was just priceless as it goes out.
If you want to hear another one, play cut three.
I'd like to thank our emcee this evening, Jim Gaffigan.
Most recently, Jim has been playing Tim Walsh on Saturday Night Live.
And that'll be a very short gig, I hope, Jim.
But it was fun while it lasted, wasn't it?
Let's see how that lasts.
It better be quick.
We don't want him, and I'm not going to stay anymore.
But unfortunately, Governor Walz is in here himself, but don't worry, he'll say that he was.
He's going to say he was.
Folks, you can't make this up.
I mean, look, those are just some of the good ones, and they get better.
So we're going to play you some more of these as we go through.
But again, this is the Trump that people need to know.
This is the one who's willing to take and make fun and have a good time, make jokes, but also take fun of himself.
One of his own comments last night from Trump himself was that he was glad to be in New York speaking under the order of a subpoena.
So, I mean, when he can take on shots like that at himself, these are the kind of things in a leader that you want to see, and Harris can't take it.
And I think that's the real key that we've got going on here.
Look, this is an important election.
We've got all kinds of things happening in the world.
Israel right now is basically fighting a battle for survival on their own.
The Harris administration and Biden administration, they say...
That, you know, Israel has every right to do, and now they're calling after Senwar has been killed, as he should have been.
Now they're saying that, oh, the war can be over now.
No, there are still hostages.
Do you realize, and I have not said this today, we're not talking about it, there are American hostages still in Gaza.
And this administration is doing nothing.
Nothing.
Nothing.
Except behind the scenes, telling Netanyahu one thing and publicly saying another.
That's where the problem has got to work out.
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Folks, this is what we're here for.
And I've got something I'm going to bring up later when John Lott's with us and we're going to talk about.
I've heard something that's very disturbing, and it comes from my home state and it's come from Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and other places.
There are people who own firearms, who have hunting license, who enjoy hunting like I do, who go out regularly.
And in the state of Georgia, over the past couple of elections, we've had 163,000 of you not vote.
Not vote.
You've got the threat of Kamala Harris being President of the United States, and those rights could be diminished or taken away, and you're not voting?
Folks, I mean, there's only so much we can do to help.
There's only so much that Dr.
Gorka and I can do and others can do to tell you the truth of what's going on.
And if you don't take it and you don't go vote, then you're not helping us.
You're hurting us as a country.
I just, I can't get over that fact, but that was a stunning statistic.
Stunning statistic.
And the numbers are just as high in Pennsylvania and in Wisconsin and in Michigan.
I mean, hunting, the day of deer season opening in Michigan and Pennsylvania, people are, you know, you close schools for that.
And yet you can't find time to go vote?
You know, this is where we get fired up.
We're 18 days away from making a change.
18 days away from getting rid of the Harris-Biden administration.
And I've got to have all hands on deck.
All hands on deck.
Bobby, Mississippi, glad you're on America First.
What's going on?
Well, all through this campaign, one of the biggest, well, two biggest things is threat to democracy and immigration.
I don't understand why people can't realize that the Democrats are bringing the immigration in to change the voting status of this country.
And if they're not, if people say they're not, Why are they putting them in certain places of the country instead of just letting the mail go where they want to?
They're trying to change the voting status of this country, and as many as come in, and the more years that we don't get it taken under control, pretty soon, so many millions that came in is going to actually turn into double what it is now.
And they're going to be able to just get rid of the Republican Party.
Oh, Bobby, you're exactly right.
And, you know, look, you're seeing it.
And here's the part that everybody, you know, doesn't want to talk about.
You know, it's not just the border states because they're being, as you just said, they're being, you know, shipped into other states away from the border.
All 48 contiguous states here in the U.S. are part of that.
And they're putting them in areas that, you know, even if you discount the voting aspect of it, they're going to be counted in the census aspect of it.
And when you're putting them in Democrat areas and growing those Democrat areas just by sheer numbers, whether it's an issue of voting or not, that is changing inherently the electoral status of where we are.
Look, New York could have almost lost a congressional seat or more this past cycle than they did.
But with the counting of those who have been put in there who are not there supposed to be there, they were able to keep it.
So, I mean, these are the kind of things that, you know, at least as reported, these are the kind of things we've got to look at.
Bobby, thanks for bringing that up.
We appreciate your call.
Again, folks, I can't emphasize this enough.
This is not an isolated incident of what they're doing.
They're going after your First Amendment rights.
And if you don't believe it, then look at how they worked with big tech, how they looked to censor your speech, to decide who they wanted out there with this disinformation.
It is amazing to me that as conservatives, we have been falling for this ploy That, you know, the government is not involved in this.
The government is involved.
The attorneys generals have shown that they are involved with, you know, suppression of speech, suppression of ideas.
And this is what makes us, you know, who we are.
Folks, you can be a Democrat.
And have every right in the world to go out on the public stage and say whatever you want to say.
You may be dead wrong, but you have every right to go say it.
Just as much as I have every right to stand and sit here behind this microphone and tell you what I believe, my rights are protected and the government is not to shut me down because they disagree with it.
It's inherently the problem we have.
And we have a Supreme Court that did not stand up for us in that.
Maybe this is something you go back on and remember.
The Supreme Court sided with the Biden administration over the disinformation cases.
This is scary.
But we've got to continue to fight.
Because if we don't fight, how are we ever going to change it?
If we don't continue to fight, how are we just going to lay down and let the left tell us what to do and how to do it?
I can't see that happening right now.
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Anywhere else.
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Oh, thank you so much.
Let her dinner.
I love that expression.
That is.
I'm glad to have you with us.
Oh, same here.
So, my thought was, there's schools for a reason.
They join together for mutual protection.
So we have millions of people have federal IDs now.
We included millions of them.
I guess two million of them already.
A lot of them have federal ID. A lot of them can get a ballot if they check off, I'm a citizen or I'm allowed to vote.
They know that they may face deportation if Trump gets elected.
But if Harris gets in, they know they're going to get off scot-free.
So how many people are willing to risk felonies to check it off because they know they're going to get their free lunch, the chicken and every pot?
Yeah, Russ, I mean, that's part of the problem.
Thanks for calling.
And this is the issue.
We've got to get away.
I was speaking with a group last night in Gilmer County, Georgia.
I love my Gilmer County folks.
I've known and represented that group before.
And there was legitimate questions coming up.
How do you argue against free?
Because you have the illegals who are here getting better treatment than our homeless military veterans.
In many ways, they're being taken care of.
And yet, how do you argue free?
Because you have young people today who say, well, why would I want to change?
I mean, I'm getting benefits from the state.
I'm getting...
Benefits from the national government.
I'm having these things and I can do what I want to do.
And there's no responsibility to it.
It's hard to argue against free.
But what we've got to convince them of and show them through history and show them through what is happening in other parts of the world, that that free is not free.
It's coming out of other people's pockets.
And believe me, if they can take it out of my pocket and give it to you, they can take it out of your pocket and give it to somebody else.
And these are just the blunt facts of what we have to set out there.
So, you know, you've got to get out and talk.
And I promised earlier we're going to talk about this.
So, you know, this is how you talk to people.
You've got to find common ground.
If they don't like Donald Trump, fine.
Say, do you like the economy?
Most of them are going to say no.
Then you say, well, that's what you vote on because I'll have you a question.
If you want to vote for Harris because you don't like Donald Trump, then you're going to get the same economy you've had for the last three and a half years.
Again, let's cut it and make it simple here.
We've got time for one quick one here.
Dave in Atlanta.
Thanks, Dave.
Yeah, hey, I was surprised Obama let Harris go on a Fox News interview.
Because if they really liked where they were at, no way she does that.
I agree with you completely on that one.
Thanks.
You've hit the nail right on the head.
Thanks for calling.
I started the show today, and for people to go back and listen, we started the show with Casey in Pennsylvania running an ad in which, number one, he never mentions he's a Democrat.
Number two, he never shows Joe Biden or Vice President Harris.
And number three, in the ad, he actually says he's an independent, and he shows a picture of Donald Trump signing a bill.
Hey, look, you don't do that if you're winning.
You don't – if you're winning by four or five touchdowns, you don't have to keep the first string in there and throw flea flickers and reverses.
You just run the ball and finish it out.
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I've been promising this.
We're here now.
Barry Loudermilk is joining me.
One of my former colleagues, not only from the U.S. Congress, but also from the Georgia days as well.
We go way back with our families.
But, Barry, one, it's good to have you here.
It's always good to be with you.
It was good to see you the other night, too.
We had a good time at the Trump rally, didn't we?
Yeah, we did.
Even though it's about an hour and a half late coming, but that's normal.
Well, you know, that's normal.
That's normal.
Hey, all right, let's get started.
Let's dig right into this.
Look, folks, for those who don't know, Barry serves on a committee that a lot of people don't know about.
It's the House Administration Committee.
They were actually known as the mayors of D.C. for a long time because they ruled the Hill.
It's changed a lot over time, but it actually deals with a lot of the internal administration of the House.
And all of us know what happened on the January 6th committee, the sham committee, That really began to be a very partisan committee.
And then Kevin McCarthy.
And it was one of the mistakes I think he made.
And it's just a personal opinion.
I think he should have put Republicans on that committee.
When he didn't, it allowed Pelosi to run wild.
Well, we didn't know how much it ran wild until Barry on the special subcommittee of the House Administration Committee began looking into that committee.
Barry, I'm going to open it up here because what you've told me and what's been shared now in some public reports...
Not only did they keep stuff, try and believe they destroyed stuff, things that they should have never done, they actually had some improper communication and it wasn't just the Democrats, was it?
No.
It's an interesting dynamic when you get into something like this because one of the two criteria I gave Kevin McCarthy when he asked me to lead this special subcommittee was, one, that I would get the resources needed to conduct a real investigation.
And two, that I was to get at the truth.
Good, bad, indifferent, ugly.
We were going to get to the truth and then we would report the truth to the American people and get the true real evidence out there.
And he said, He didn't expect any less out of me.
And that's what we've been focused on is just getting to the bottom of everything.
But to me, it's important because I think for freedom, you have to have transparency and accountability of government.
I mean, our founders were most afraid of the very government they were creating.
And so that's why there were guardrails put in and there was oversight and accountability.
And I just don't think that A lot of times we do a good job of oversight and accountability and Congress has become more of a political tool than actually doing oversight and I wanted to change that narrative.
Not everyone was pleased with it.
Look, every Democrat out there did not like what I was doing because we were ripping the band-aid off and the media hasn't liked it at all.
I mean, we're being blackballed right now by mainstream media and I'm hearing from the inside The reason they're not covering it is because they can't spin it because we're just producing the evidence.
We're letting the evidence speak for themselves.
I mean, when you've got a situation where their star witness, Cassidy Hutchinson, who made all these tremendous claims that Trump attacked a Secret Service agent on the 6th, tried to take control of the SUV he was in because they wouldn't take him to the Capitol.
They didn't corroborate any of those stories.
They just took them hook, line and sinker.
I think they knew that they were not real.
They were true.
But they sounded good and they fit the narrative of what the Select Committee was going to do, which was, this is all Trump's fault.
He is unhinged.
He's psychotic.
He's the one who caused all this.
The thing is, when she testified to these things, they could have called the Secret Service in and asked them about it.
But they waited until after the midterm elections to call in the Secret Service, who, by the way, testified that none of this happened.
But the American people never saw those testimonies because those were filed away and then sent to the White House and sent to Homeland Security, even though they're House documents.
We do know that they destroyed documents, the videotapes of all these depositions, which is a big issue right now because of the backchannel communications that we have just recently uncovered between Cassidy Hutchinson and Liz Cheney.
All of those depositions were videotaped.
There was over 1,100 of those videotapes, and even as Liz Cheney said in her book, That it was important that they preserve those videotapes because that would show the truth.
The problem is they got rid of them.
They're gone.
But you would think with all that, of course, the Democrats don't want us to get to all this truth.
There's been some pushback in other areas, too.
Now, I'll be clear.
Speaker McCarthy and Speaker Johnson have been 110% supportive of what we were doing.
In fact, Speaker Johnson has tripled our funding and my staff.
Once we really started uncovering information, we started finding some of these documents have been sent around.
But, you know, we've run into a lot of roadblocks.
There have been people that wanted to stop us and have kind of gotten in our way.
But we have persevered, and I And I give it to my staff.
They've held on, and they have just worked around it and worked through it.
All right.
Barry, you mentioned a lot there, and that's what I wanted you to do to get this all out.
Now we're going to pick it apart a little bit.
Cassidy Hutchinson, and what really got most of the American people was is that they've had these, unlike, if people thought these were real hearings on Capitol Hill, they were sadly mistaken.
They were not real hearings.
And the sense of what you and I both know as hearings.
Both sides getting to ask questions.
Both sides getting to do it.
These were made for production.
They brought in an NBC producer to make these.
Cassidy Hutchinson was one of the biggest that they had because of those salacious claims that you found out others.
But I do have a question here that I've heard from other members.
The documents destroyed.
The documents sent other places.
Benny Thompson was the chair of this committee.
Liz Cheney was the...
They say ranking member.
She was not ranking member.
She was vice chair.
She just went over to the other side on this one.
But in looking at that, they broke House rules.
They broke considerably records laws here.
Has there been any discussion about bringing the still current members of the House of Representatives who served on that committee before the Ethics Committee of the House?
We have had some discussions about that, none at the leadership level, and part of the reason is we keep uncovering stuff all the time.
And as an attorney, you know how to do this.
You need to have your strongest case available.
And just like the information we just released, You have Liz Cheney and Cassidy Hutchinson communicating, back channel communicating, which is a violation of standards that an attorney cannot discuss or have any communications directly or indirectly with anyone that is represented by another attorney without that attorney present or knowledgeable about it.
And she was She was violating that, and we have just uncovered all that.
Can I bop in there, too?
We want to make sure that we continue to uncover everything and then lay it all out.
Yeah, Barry, I just want to jump in there, too, because the attorney, it was not just that she seemingly now interfered with that attorney-client privilege, but the attorney that Cassidy had, they turned it as if he was a part of the problem, that he was doing stuff that was untawdry or unethical, which was wrong.
And so it's not only that they tamper with it, they actually went after the other attorney with this.
They had to create some type of scenario as to why Cassidy Hutchinson, after three transcribed interviews under oath, Barry, we're going to be right back.
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We're going to continue it now.
Let's jump back into this.
We've sort of noticed this, and I've sort of noticed it, and I've known Benny Thompson for a long time.
You have as well.
He was, quote, the chair of this committee.
But it became very obvious that Liz Cheney...
Took control of the committee in many ways.
And I've heard this not from just, you know, from what you've talked about.
I've heard it from others on the Hill as well.
To what extent do you think that was true, and mainly from her motivations behind it, but how much was she actually controlling?
She was engaged in every aspect of it, and we really didn't see Benny that much engaged.
When you sit down and you look at the transcribed interviews, Not only the ones that they preserve, but the ones we had to go find and recover.
She was actively involved directly with a lot of these interviews and depositions, even asking questions herself, which I've sat through these before, congressional depositions.
And generally, when I'm in there, it's mostly your staff, your counsel, your general counsel for the committee that's asking the questions.
A member is generally present.
But she was often directly engaged in asking the questions.
Occasionally, there were other members, but I never recall seeing Benny Thompson involved at all.
Liz was really the driving factor.
She was the one who took control, took the reins, and basically, I think she's the one who set the direction that this is the narrative.
I mean, it's clear to me and anybody else who looks at it, they had a predetermined narrative that they wanted to come out with.
They basically could have written the report at the beginning of the investigation.
All they did was need to fill in some boxes with enough information This is why so much documentation ended up missing, because any piece of evidence that didn't support that final narrative, it just disappeared.
In fact, when we started uncovering some of this, Liz Cheney tweeted at me and said, look, here is the final report, and if you click on it here, you can see all the supporting documentation.
My response was, Already had the supporting documentation.
What we're after is the non-supporting documentation, which outnumbered your supporting documentation three to one.
I think what you've hit on there is something that has been disturbing for those of us who are traditional believers in the constitutional system of government and the Congress actually having this power to investigate, to oversight, to do those things.
I was, of course, part of the impeachment process and everything.
We had to document our stuff.
We watched Adam Schiff hold stuff from us.
They have no regard for the rules.
They have a narrative, and they set the narrative.
But this is the problem as we move forward, and I think the realization here is you also have uncovered a lot of stuff that they should have been looking at, but were not looking at, or it didn't fit the narrative.
And so, just briefly, if you can, describe some of the stuff dealing with National Guard, dealing with Capitol Hill Police, stuff that should have had effect more than just get Trump.
Well, they would not go down any path that they didn't think just supported their narrative.
And there'll be some more stuff coming out next week that we've recently uncovered on that.
They'll just take anyone who says what fits their narrative, take it at face value without any corroboration.
One of the issues you brought up with the National Guard, there were significant delays in getting the National Guard there that day to help quell the violence.
The first delay was that there was not a formal request.
The president can't send the National Guard without an actual request from the legislative branch, from Congress.
Otherwise, Otherwise, it's unconstitutional, separation of powers.
Otherwise, the president could send the National Guard to take over Congress.
So even though the National Guard was readied and was ready to deploy that morning, it was several hours—there was actually shots fired in the Capitol before it was approved for the chief of police to actually call in the National Guard.
The second delay was about a three and a half hour delay is once the National Guard was given the order to deploy, it took three and a half hours before they were actually allowed to deploy.
The Select Committee never really looked into that.
They didn't go any further than taking what the Department of Defense IG reported, the Inspector General, when they investigated it.
We dug a little deeper because we started getting informants within the, I'm talking about general rank, members of the National Guard, commanders and executive officers that were coming to us saying, this isn't true.
We were purposefully held back by Pentagon staff.
And so we started pursuing that, and lo and behold, we came out with 44 transcribed interviews that the Department of Defense IG had that they conducted with senior officials in the Department of Defense, and it uncovered that they purposefully delayed the National Guard.
Yeah, I mean, we're running out of time.
This is the type of thing.
If it didn't fit the narrative, they didn't pursue it.
Exactly.
Well, look, you and I need to talk more about this.
Hopefully, people will be out there.
You're going to be out there.
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John, good to have you with us today on our Second Amendment Friday.
It's great to talk to you again.
Thanks for having me on.
It's been good.
All right, John, let's jump into some stuff that's made headlines, not only just in the news and debates and presidential stuff, but this crime stat issue.
We've been talking about this for a long time.
Give the people sort of the background of what happened on the debate and what's happened since the debate and now the revision up from the crime stats as we've gone forward.
All right.
People need to understand there's two measures that we have of crime.
There's the FBI data on reported crimes.
And then there's the National Crime Victimization Survey from the Bureau of Justice Statistics, which is a truly massive survey, about 240,000 people each year, in order to get a measure of total crime, both reported and unreported.
And the media has insisted on just using the FBI measure of reported crimes, even though most crimes, the vast majority of crimes, aren't reported to police.
And, you know, you have somebody like David Muir during the presidential debate go and do this fact check on Trump where he says the FBI shows that crime's going down.
And that's not what the FBI measures.
The FBI measures the number of crimes reported to police are going down.
And we can go into why the number of reported crimes is differing over the last few years from the changes in the total crime.
But there's a basic problem here, and that is, even if they wanted to use the FBI measure of reported crimes rather than total crimes, and they have refused to use the measure of total crimes in their news reports, it turns out that the data that they had was wrong.
The FBI comes out in the fall of each year with the crimes raped for the previous year.
And so, in the fall of 2023, October 2023, they came out with their numbers for 2022, and they claimed that violent crime had fallen by 2.1 percent.
And so, for the last year, we've had headline after headline in the news media saying, crime is down, but people misleadingly think that it's increased.
Well, it turns out the FBI this last month did a revision that they kind of hid.
It's not in their press release.
They have one footnote in their report that says, oh, by the way, we updated the data for 2022.
But they don't tell you how it changed.
You have to download the data files and look through it.
And it turns out, rather than a drop, in 2022, it actually, violent crime increased by 4.5%.
And to kind of put that in real terms, we're talking about a difference of 80,000 violent crimes.
We're talking about a difference of 1,699 murders, 7,000 rapes, 33,000 robberies, 38,000 Agved assaults, and 198,000 property crimes, including 54,000 car thefts.
And, you know, that's real differences there in just one year.
And so all these headlines that we've had over the last year were wrong.
And the thing is, the media hasn't corrected it.
In the mainstream media, there's no news article saying, whoops, all those headlines were wrong.
Look, I can forgive the media to some extent because I know they're lazy.
You know, 95% of reporters are just going to look at the press release.
And since the FBI didn't mention anything at all about these changes in their press release, I can understand they missed it.
And even if the few percent that actually read the report, you know, you got this one footnote, which vaguely says we've updated the data for 2022 with no information about what the change was or why they did it or anything else, I can understand why they do it.
But even now, when it's become clear, I mean, I've been trying to point this out for a few weeks.
But even after it's gotten publicity this week, the mainstream legacy media from The New York Times, The Washington Post, CNN to ABC, whatever.
There's no mention of it.
Yeah.
Again, it goes back to what I've been saying for a long time, and this is almost in-kind contributions to the Harris campaign.
Remember, they were responsible for the coup.
So they got rid of Biden.
They've got to stick with Harris.
Whether they like it or not, they've got to stick with her.
But you brought up something that's really interesting, and I want you to take a little bit more and dig into this.
The difference between reported crimes and actual crime, the reported crimes and those who actually experience it.
Because wouldn't this also, and I was just sitting here thinking as you were talking about it, this would also hit our migrant crime issue because many times this illegal immigrant crime is a crime on crime and they're not going to report that crime.
That's exactly right.
It's crimes against other illegal immigrants that are there, and they're not going to mention that.
So, look, if you look during the Biden administration, the measure of total crime has shown a 55% increase in violent crime.
And that breaks down into a 42% increase in rapes, a 63% increase in robberies, a 55% increase in aggravated assaults.
In the 55 years that we have the Bureau of Justice Statistics data, there has never been anything even remotely close to that large of a percentage increase.
The 55% increase, the largest previous increase, it was in 2006, over three years, of 27%.
So the increase under the Biden administration is slightly more than twice as large as the largest previous three-year increase.
You know, that's phenomenal.
And yet the media, you know, we just had these reports come out a month ago.
You will search in vain.
I mean, the New York Post covers it.
Fox covered it.
The Washington Times covered it.
But outside of kind of conservative media bubble there, there's no coverage of it at all.
And look, there are reasons why.
To drill down on your point, there are reasons why these two numbers, the reported and the total, are differing.
So, for example, if you call up 911, they'll ask you if the criminal's there.
If the criminal's not there right now, they'll tell you, well, you can come down to the police station, wait in line, and fill out a police report.
John, hold that thought.
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But I want to take something that you were talking about getting into the weeds on the statistics.
John, what we're seeing in this election is the American people are being sold on a story about economics, and they can look around and understand that they're not buying as much, the job market is soft, and the interest rates are going up higher and costing them more.
The same is true with crime.
The crime statistics that are being given don't match the eye test of what they're seeing in their own communities as we go forward.
How would that affect, and how should that affect, especially when you're concerned about the Second Amendment, And you're concerned about, you know, those rights that you have, that you could trust the Harris administration to protect those very rights that we're talking about.
Well, look, you know, people go to CVS's or Walgreens in Los Angeles or Chicago or Washington, D.C. or New York.
And they see that everything's behind plexiglass.
You want to go and get something, you have to have a clerk come over and unlock it and stand next to you while you read the packages.
People know that wasn't true a few years ago.
And that's just property crime.
We've seen the same type of changes across crime rates across the board.
But, you know, the crime issue, this huge percentage increase that we've seen during the Biden administration, which is unprecedented, isn't rocket science.
You know, we've had cuts in police budgets.
We've had retirements of police officers.
Even if they go and hire a few new people recently, somebody with six months or years of experience can't replace somebody who has had 15 years who retired.
We've had district attorneys refusing to prosecute violent criminals.
We've had liberal judges release large numbers of inmates from prison.
We've had bail reform.
If an officer arrests somebody and he's immediately released and maybe not charged at all, the officer has to ask himself, what's the point of risking his safety to go and arrest somebody if they're not going to be held?
It's not rocket science.
If you make it less risky for criminals to commit crime, you're going to see more crime occurring.
You can make it risky for criminals to commit crime through law enforcement, but you can also do it through allowing private individuals to be able to go and defend themselves.
You know, people having guns make it risky for criminals to go and commit crimes.
The Biden administration, and Kamala Harris has been the gun control czar in the administration, has been the most anti-self-defense administration in our lifetime, ever.
You know, they've put thousands of gun dealers out of business for just one typo on a form transposing two letters in a word 18 years ago.
You have Operation Chokepoint from Obama has been revived.
It was ended under Trump, where they go and put pressure on financial institutions not to go and do business with companies that they don't approve of.
Try running a business handling credit cards for customers or checks.
Are there workarounds?
Yeah, but it's a lot more costly and difficult.
It is.
You know, she's been for gun bans for 20 years, enthusiastically.
Yep, it's not going to get any better, John.
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Guys, we have been a packed two hours today.
Doug Collins filling in for the great Sebastian Gorka.
Here today, we've talked about a lot of stuff going on on the Hill.
We've talked about immigration.
We've talked about the election.
And one of the things I've been talking about all day is the swing states.
And especially one that could be no more in the forefront than this one that is going to basically help determine the next president of the United States is Pennsylvania.
Could not think of a better guest to have with us today.
I've watched this young man and this guy who's become a phenomenal congressman from the state of Pennsylvania.
He's came up.
I've watched him since he first came in, went out there when he first got elected.
I've watched him.
Served on my committee in judiciary when I was there and he's done nothing but grow and represent the state exceedingly well and America First all the way.
Guy Reschenthaler is with us.
Guy, welcome to the America First show and welcome just to talk to you again to give us a lowdown on what's going on in Pennsylvania.
Absolutely, Doug.
Well, first off, thanks for those very kind words, and it all comes down to mentorships.
You were my early mentor, so you got me on the right path in Congress, that's for sure.
And thanks for having me on the show.
Really appreciate it.
But Doug, getting back to Pennsylvania, I am ecstatic about where we are in Pennsylvania.
If you look at President Trump's numbers, let's just talk about Trump, and then we can talk about Senate and Congress.
But if you look at Trump's numbers, he's up right now in internal polling by about 2%.
Okay, Guy, Guy, let me stop you right there.
Guy, talk about internal polling because this is a conversation we've had off air and some people are getting confused by the mainstream media's Quiniac and all these others.
Talk about the two differences there.
Yeah, I'd love to.
So if you look at public polling or polling that's being conducted, for example, by a news organization, they have incentive to get those polls done very fast, and they're also not willing to have as many crosstabs and as many issues or get the sample size right.
They just want a quick snapshot, and they want to do it on the cheap, because for them, they're just trying to drive eyeballs to their paper, their network, whatever.
If you look at an internal polling, so an internal poll is going to be the candidate's own poll, or like a poll from the NRCC, which is the organization helping run these races.
They're going to spend more money on a poll and do a more thorough job because they want to know how they can drive a message.
And they want to know what demographics they're hitting, what ones they're not.
So they're going to look at much more of what we call the crosstabs, deeper issues, and they're going to say, okay, We're not doing well with this demographic.
We need to put more weight behind an ad to target this.
For example, if you're lagging in women, for example, you might want to go to a certain network.
If you're lagging behind men, you might want to hit ESPN and History Channel or something.
They're going to spend a lot more money because they want to know where they should put TV ads before they do monster media buys.
You're not going to see that from public polling.
And if I can just close this out, public polling is not going to take the time to sample correctly.
So one of the things we're seeing in a lot of the polls now, they're undersampling Republicans.
Two reasons for that.
Number one, if you look at Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania has greatly outpaced registration for Republicans versus Democrats.
But the polling sample size hasn't reflected that change.
Then when you look at Democrats, for example, it's much harder to get working-class Democrats than affluent suburban Democrats, for example.
There's a problem because that blue-collar Democrat will more than likely be likely to vote for Trump.
Where if you get somebody that's working in an HR department and they're a registered Democrat in a suburban seat, they're probably voting for Harris.
So the demographic of Democrat that's more likely to vote for Republicans or Trump is much more hard to poll because they're at work or they're on a construction site.
They don't have the luxury of taking that call, where if somebody's working from home or working at a white-collar job, they can take 20 minutes to answer a pollster.
So you've got to just look at the internal polling because that's the accurate polling.
Yep.
Guy, let's dig into Pennsylvania now.
One of the things that's coming out, and I want to get it straight from someone who's there on the ground doing it every day, we're seeing a lot of the early mail-in voting.
And most states have actually seemingly went backwards and cut down.
There's not as much mail-in voting.
Pennsylvania seems to be up.
And some of the early numbers, and I'm just curious as to your take on this, Comparing to voter rolls, Democrats seem to be up.
Is that normal in Pennsylvania?
Is the Republican number higher than we've seen in the past?
Is that a good thing?
I mean, all these are early numbers, so where should we take that?
Well, I think if we look at mail-in voting as a whole, we have done a good job as Republicans in Pennsylvania making sure that our people know to go out and vote early by mail because you lock in that vote.
I just did an event with our former judiciary colleague, Jim Jordan, and I can't tell you, like half the people there said they had already voted by mail, which is good.
And if you look at the trend lines of mail-in voting, overall it's down like 70% of where it was in 2020.
But if you—which I would argue is a good thing.
I think we should vote in person if you can.
But if you look at where the Republicans are, our mail-in votes are up like 83 percent relative of where we were in 2020.
The Democrats are not at the levels they were before.
So that mail-in vote— We're good to go.
In polling, the internal polling has Trump up by two.
That's really important because relative to 2020, Trump was down like 7% leading it.
This is internal polling.
He was down 7% and of course he won Pennsylvania.
There's a lot of reasons for that.
Trump voters are much more hesitant to say they're voting for Trump because they think there's a stigma attached to it.
like I was talking about the blue-collar workers that are voting for Trump, much harder to get them to answer.
And then our number one demographic is probably high school-educated men between 35 and 55.
Those are notoriously the hardest people to get to answer polling questions or even answer polls.
So if Trump's up by two right now, it means he's probably up by like four or five, which I think he's going to win Pennsylvania.
But that also means that McCormick, who's in the margin of error right now against Casey, McCormick's probably actually up against Casey.
I think McCormick's going to win as well.
And if you look at our down-bound congressional races, we've got three pickup opportunities in Pennsylvania.
I'd be willing to bet money that Cartwright loses to a great candidate we have, Bresnahan, who's right in Joe Biden's fake hometown, which is Scranton, Pennsylvania.
It's going to be awesome if this election cycle we take out an incumbent Democrat in Scranton, Pennsylvania, which was historically the home of the Democratic Party.
Yeah, that would be great.
Huge.
Guy, let's hit on the races there as you see this going forward and looking at it.
We've seen in Georgia, we've seen in some other places, what I'll call the change in the Republican base a little bit.
We're seeing more African American male that are going to be voted for Donald Trump.
We see more Hispanic voting for Donald Trump.
We see more Asian American voting for Trump.
In your city areas, your more urban areas in Pennsylvania, are you seeing a little bit of that trend there as well?
We are seeing it, Doug.
And I don't want to get too super parochial here, but if you look at southwestern Pennsylvania, where my area is, it's super red.
But before 2016, all four of my original counties were in Democrat control.
Now they're all not only Republican-controlled, but this is like the MAGA of the MAGA area of Pennsylvania.
And what you're seeing is you're seeing those affluent suburbs that used to be solidly Republican going solidly for Harris.
But in the working-class areas, the blue-collar areas, they're now firmly for President Trump and Republicans.
And that's a broader trend.
It's because we are doing a much better job reaching out to basically working Americans.
And the Democrats have really become the party of coastal elites and super affluent voters.
70% of the wealth in this country is behind Joe Biden.
Only 30% of it is behind Trump.
It shows you the Democratic shift.
And then that carries out to the populations that Democrats used to rely on heavily.
The black vote, for example.
Right now, in some areas, we're pulling like 20, 22% of the black vote.
Historically, We're at about 8% of the vote.
So that's a huge gain.
The Hispanic vote, last cycle there was an organization called 45 for 45.
They were trying to get 45% of the vote for the 45th president.
I thought that was a very lofty goal.
They exceeded that, Doug, in 2020.
They got nearly 50% of the Hispanic vote.
Now we're pulling 55% of the Hispanic vote for Trump and Republicans.
So this demographic shift is...
It needed to happen because our party was on the way to extinction before President Trump, but certainly we need to do it because there's a lot more people out there that we can reach who aren't our historical base, but they're going to be the new base in the Republican Party.
Right, I agree.
Hey, we've got about 30 seconds left.
You mentioned internal polling earlier, and you talked about how that affects messaging.
You have heard the new Casey ad, haven't you?
The new Casey ad that he's put out?
No, I actually have not heard it.
Okay.
Look, let me just say this.
Here's some things you need to know about.
Number one, he never says he's a Democrat.
Number two, he says he's an Independent.
And number three, there's no pictures of Biden or Harris.
There is, though, however, number four, a picture of Donald Trump signing a bill.
That should tell you everything you need to know about what Casey thinks this election is looking like.
Well, exactly.
It's not just about internal polling, but you can look at a candidate behavior.
There's a reason why Harris went on Fox News with Brett Baer because they're hemorrhaging votes.
There's a reason why Casey is running from Biden and Harris.
So, of course, they're seeing the same numbers that we're seeing, and they're running scared.
Exactly.
Hey, folks, you want to follow an up-and-comer in Congress, follow Guy Reschenthaler.
Thanks, Guy, for the update in Pennsylvania.
We look forward to talking to you again.
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We got 18 days to get out and people get out to vote.
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Been talking a lot about polling.
But I have to tell you one thing.
There is a, in the background here we have with the TV camera on and the 5 is on.
After such a tremendously bad night for Kamala Harris at the Al Smith, for skipping the Al Smith Center, it is amazing to me that they decided to bring in, that most of the Democrats seem to have avoided the conversation today over here looking at that.
It is funny.
They don't want to deal with it as we go.
But one of the things we've been dealing with here is polling and how the turnout's coming.
I can't think of a better person to do that.
Someone who has polled all over the world for folks like Netanyahu and also right here for our own President Trump.
John McLaughlin is with us right now.
John is also...
He did some polling for an unknown guy in Georgia named Doug Collins as well.
So, you know, he's worked on that.
But McLaughlin& Associates.
John, we want to talk about polling today, what we're seeing.
And we had a good conversation with Guy Resenthaler about Pennsylvania and internal polling as opposed to public polling.
And this is the thing that I think is getting a lot of people confused.
What should people be listening for right now?
I think, by the way, that Congressman in Georgia, yourself, you made your pollster look real good.
We're still very grateful and you proved the polls right.
But as far as what people should be looking for in the polling right now, I mean, most people don't, you know, they hear the headlines from the media polls, and that's all they know.
And they don't know the composition of the poll, like how many Republicans and Democrats are in it.
They don't know the race or the model of the voters.
They don't know the gender.
They don't know the age.
You know, but some of the more sophisticated polls publish that information.
And what a key bellwether is to compare is that in 2020 you had exit polls from CNN. Now, they weren't initially right, but after the election was over, they waited it to be right.
So, you know, there was 160 million people who showed up in 2020, either early voting during absentee or early in person or on election day.
And that's a pretty high turnout.
And polls are not good predictors of turnout.
But we might have that kind of turnout again.
Because even still, when you have 260 million people coming out and vote, there's probably 100 million people that are eligible that didn't either register or didn't bother to vote.
And they're still out there.
And they're making decisions now if they're going to vote or not.
And some of them are making decisions who they're going to vote.
And I think you're seeing a high level of early in-person voting because Trump voters are going to vote, particularly in the battleground states.
Yep.
So they're coming out early as soon as the early person voting allows them to.
John, would it be safe to say that in states like Georgia where we're seeing an unprecedented, I mean, record-breaking early vote coupled with absentee ballots, which, by the way, interesting for those who are concerned about it, the early vote is what's overwhelming.
The absentee vote is counted in this, but it is an insignificant portion of this million votes.
You know, first-week vote in Georgia, if you're looking at those numbers down there.
Is it safe to say, John, that this million, because I think we're going to hit a million in Georgia by the end of the day, are the decided voters?
These are people who are ready to get this thing over with, ready to go to the polls, they're ready to be taken off the text message list, the call list, and everything else, aren't they?
Yes, and what makes it difficult for pollsters is they might stop answering poll questions, so...
But does that also now, and the reason I ask that, and I frame it the way I did, is now I have people who think that after they vote, their job is done.
And that I voted, but yet, in a race that's going to be decided by three or four points, it's those folks who haven't voted yet.
Those day of voters that are going to decide in the next 18 days who they vote for.
Is it...
More important now that we double down efforts to make sure people come or persuade those to the, you know, from the conservatives to vote for Donald Trump?
Sure.
I mean, because when you look at the polls, they're all very close.
I mean, the Trump voters were not used to this.
On October 18th in 2016, we were losing in the national polls 48 to 41 with Hillary Clinton.
They were talking about a Hillary lock.
Even on November 6th, NBC had Hillary up seven points in the national polls, and they gave her a 71% chance of winning.
In 2020, it got worse.
Those polls on October 18th, the national average had Biden up 51 to 42.
On Halloween, you had an NBC poll.
Biden was up 10, 52, 42.
And on November 2nd, YouGov economist Paul had us down 10, 53, 43.
They were talking about a Biden blue wave.
And it turned out to be decided, out of 160 million votes, the election was decided by 44,000 votes in three states.
12,000 in Arizona, 12,000 in Georgia, and 20,000 in Wisconsin.
We're headed for another close race, because when you look at the real clear politics average, I mean, granted, you know, when they force no toss-up, if somebody's leading by a tenth of a point, they push that state to that candidate.
And Trump now has 312 electoral votes in their average.
We need 270 to win.
But, you know, when you take out the When you put in the margin of error states, etc., there's 108 toss-up electoral votes.
So they're just leaning right now.
And things can change.
So, you know, Trump put out our campaign internal polls a week ago today, and we don't usually do that, but you had four states, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan, we were plus one.
Plus one, by polling, if I take the same poll the next day, it could be minus one.
Right.
Pennsylvania, they had us up.
Take it back.
Arizona, we were up three.
And Nevada, up three.
And Georgia, we were up five.
And that was...
You know, but it's close.
It's real close.
All margin of error kind of stuff.
That brings up a question, John, on polling and looking at, you know, sort of horse racing this.
I tell people all the time, forget the national polls.
What you know of national polls doesn't matter.
And I said, so just go out and tell your friends.
But one interesting, when you get into the states and you get into these, you know, supposed swing states, one sticks to mind for me, not by who's turning out, but who possibly might not turn out, and that's Michigan.
Are you seeing Michigan and especially the Muslim vote, the others there that have traditionally been more Biden-Harris but have fallen out with them over the past year, this pro-Hamas stuff that's been going on?
Are we seeing it now in polling?
Are we seeing it in early voting?
Are we seeing this staying away?
Is there still that problem for the Harris team in Michigan?
There is still that problem for her, because months ago, she was telling Israel, don't go into Rafa.
Right.
And their magic word is ceasefire.
And, you know, you already said I work for Netanyahu.
I worked for Netanyahu from 03 to the last election in 22.
And Netanyahu's there to protect Israel.
And, you know, he's in a position where if Harris wins— He's doing things.
He basically took the head off Hezbollah in the North because they were threatening and killed Nasrallah.
And he tracked down Sinwar, who was the head of Hamas.
And they still have hostages, but they've not given up the hostages or the bodies.
It's unbelievable.
But Harris, like yesterday, she was kind of claiming credit.
But in the pitch, she said, don't point for Rafa.
All right, John.
Yeah, Michigan's going to be interesting.
John, thanks for the update on the polling.
We appreciate it.
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Alright, we're finishing up strong here on the last half hour.
Can you believe it?
It's Friday.
We have blown through two and a half hours.
Y'all have been wonderful.
We've had some great guests.
I hope you have learned this has been a master's level course in what's going on in our country right now and especially into our election cycle.
But we're going to hit some calls now of people who have been patiently, patiently waiting.
Dan in Minnesota.
Yes, hi Doug.
I have an election integrity issue I want to mention.
Because as far as I know, none of the ballot counters used in the states void out the ballots after they pass through the counter.
And there's no time or date stamp on them.
So in lieu of that, I think we need to be very careful to guard all the ballots and watch the chain of custody.
As best we can to avoid any shenanigans.
Yep.
That's my biggest fear right now with the absentee ballots.
You don't want them passing through the ballot counters multiple times.
Right.
I agree.
Everything just needs to be up front.
We've got to trust our poll workers, trust our election officials to do what they're supposed to be doing.
You've got to make sure that the person who has the absentee ballot is the person who's supposed to have that absentee ballot.
That's why in Georgia we put on the photo ID requirement to receive an absentee ballot.
But all across the country, these are the things we're going to have to look at.
And, Dan, you're doing the yeoman's work up there in Minnesota.
Y'all keep it up.
Hey, we just talked to John McLaughlin.
You heard him.
Minnesota is one that could possibly be in play.
So, you know, if it is, y'all get out there and turn that boat up.
Dan, we appreciate you calling in today and waiting so patiently.
We do appreciate it.
Marcia in California, another one who is long-suffering on the phone and waiting today.
Thank you so much for waiting.
It's Doug.
What's going on?
Yes, Doug.
It's so nice to get to know you.
We've appreciated it so much.
You know, we've been watching all these criminal actions by the left, these hidden facts and magic tricks of the last four years.
How can we say this election Is too big to rig.
Well, by getting out and voting.
And I think that's the number one.
Thanks, Marcia, for your call, because let me just talk about this for a second.
The concern that I have right now is that we have a lot of people rightfully concerned about what they saw and what they heard and what they felt happened in 2020.
But I cannot emphasize this enough.
Do not let anything keep you from voting.
Do not let anything keep you from voting.
The only guaranteed way to know your vote does not count is not to vote.
And we can't have that happen.
Too many states have done a lot of good work in the last four years to make sure that the election in their states are safe, secure, and for those who are supposed to vote.
Georgia's been one of them, and Georgia had issues.
There was a lot of them publicized, and Georgia's legislature has done a lot to solve people's concerns about that.
Are there always things you can do to make sure that things are better?
Yes.
Absolutely.
And the left is going to fight us every step of the way.
But really, the one thing that I have to say, Marshall, and I'm glad you stood on the line to say that, is that people have to go vote.
The only way you can overwhelm the vote, the only way you can make it too big to rig is you've got to vote.
Okay?
And not worry about that.
Let the RNC, let the state Republican parties who are now, you know, have been looking at it to making sure, working with our poll workers and our poll watchers who are doing such vigilant, good jobs, make sure they get their job done, and we just got to show up and make sure people are voting.
And I think that's the biggest issue that we have facing us right now is we can't get apathetic.
We can't get and let others.
Look, the left is wanting you to believe every narrative in the world that they're inevitably going to win.
You can't let that happen.
The left is not inevitable to win here.
It is not the left narrative.
Although the New York Times may say it, the Los Angeles Times may say it, the Washington Post may say it, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, all of these others may say it.
It doesn't mean it's true.
In fact, we're seeing the fact opposite.
We've talked about it on this show today.
Crime statistics, economic numbers, everything that they're telling you has another side to it that they're not telling you because they don't want you to find out that the last three and a half years, almost four years, of Biden-Harris has been an absolute disaster for this country.
They want you to be depressed.
They want you not to go out and vote.
You've got to take the initiative and get out to vote.
It's the only way we can do it.
All right, we've got a few more minutes left here on the America First.
Sebastian Gorka, Doug Collins, filling in for Sebastian.
And we will be back here in just a moment.
Thank you.
You're listening to America First with special guest host, former Congressman Doug Collins.
All right, everybody.
Welcome back.
Glad to have you riding along with us.
Some of you are picking us up live now.
Some of you have been already home.
Some of you are on your way home.
But either way, it's the weekend and we're 18 days away from turning 45 into 47.
And I think that's the biggest thing that we've got to look at right here.
Because we just, frankly, as a country, cannot continue down the road that we're on.
I mean, it's not sustainable.
You cannot keep an open border.
You cannot keep the economic going.
You can't keep giving away everything to everybody.
You know, for all their talk about the, you know, challenging democracy and the Constitution and their supposed love of it, every time we turn around, the Biden administration, Harris administration is actually doing something that the courts have ruled they can't do.
The loan forgiveness program for college debt.
They've been told they couldn't.
They keep going back and doing it again.
I mean, it's just sickening.
So we've got to get out and vote, folks.
You've got 18 days.
If you're early voting now in your states, please get out and vote.
I mean, if you're going to wait until Election Day and you can guarantee you can make it there on Election Day, then God bless you.
Go vote.
But I don't care.
Anywhere you can get there between the next 18 days and you're a Trump voter, go vote.
If you're a Harris voter, that's your problem.
I'm not encouraging that at all, because, again, we've got too much at stake here that we've got to land.
All right, we've got more calls coming up here.
Suzanne in Canada.
Suzanne, how are we doing?
Okay, hi.
I'm calling from Canada.
I just wanted to tell you that this election impacts us as well.
So many ways.
For instance, when we get our fruit in the winter, it comes from places like California.
So whatever happens there happens here, and in so many other ways.
And just to let you know, colleagues of mine who a few years ago would not admit to admiring Trump are now admiring him.
But the other thing I really, really wanted to say is, as a professional female, I deplore Kamala.
I deplore Hillary.
They are running on their gender, even if they can't define it.
And just a cautionary warning, I think Kamala is smarter than all of us.
She's playing dumb.
She laughs and giggles like, oh, I'm just a woman.
Yep.
Okay?
But she is smarter than us.
Yep.
She's doing what she needs to do to get elected.
Pardon me?
She's just doing what she needs to do or things she needs to do to get elected.
She'll tell you whatever you want to hear.
Well, I think it's more sinister than that.
Yep.
You know, I really do.
You know, I keep thinking of...
The Garden of Eden and the snakes.
And did God really say?
And she twists everything around just like that.
Yeah.
Suzanne, I appreciate it.
One of the things, too, is I agree with you.
What flows down here, especially from California and New York, seems to flow toward Canada because there's some crazy things going on there as well.
So we've got to all keep fighting this fight and be a part of it.
But I appreciate you calling in.
You keep listening and keep the fight up there, even from across the border to our friends to the north, okay?
Alright, next up, Russ from Phoenix.
Russ, how are we doing out there in swing state of Arizona?
Before you get to your question, how's it looking in Arizona?
Pretty good.
It finally cooled down.
We don't have 100 now.
We have 77 degrees out here.
There you go.
Alright, we got it up.
What's your question?
We have so many things going on.
You look at the movies, 2,000 mules and how they change all the ground rules to make The left to benefit the left from the elimination of 24-hour verification for people bringing in kids across the border.
Like, what was wrong with that?
I don't see anything in preventing legal parents from an event.
Now we have no videos of drop boxes in Arizona.
I mean, That's incredible.
You know, when you look at the videos and you see a guy stuffing all these ballots illegally, taking off his gloves, taking a picture, and then going to Democratic headquarters to get his money.
I mean, that's nuts.
We have people now monitoring these drop-off boxes 24-7 in Arizona.
Yep.
Well, and I think that was, you know, some of the stuff that came out is making sure that the votes are classified.
I'm not, you know, again, you know, everybody has their own personal preference.
I think that you ought to be able to drop, you know, if you're going to have a ballot, you're going to drop it off at a polling place where people are there during the times when people are there.
And don't tell me that you can't get there.
They can.
There's plenty of times that we can.
Russ, thanks for calling.
These are the very issues that we've got to deal with here.
But the basic issue is this.
If we don't turn out our vote, we lose.
If we don't get people on our side, conservatives, off of the couch, off of the places, and go to spend an hour, ten minutes, whatever it is in your area, to go vote, then we will lose.
And I can't emphasize this enough, and I don't want to hear any excuses, and I don't want to hear anybody that says they're not going to vote.
Because if you don't want to go vote, then I don't want you to talk politics for two years.
You're in time out.
For two years, you're in timeout.
No calling the show, no Facebook posts, no Twitter posts, no of these other things.
No, you're in timeout.
Just shut up.
Because if you're not going to take the time to go vote, I can't help you.
There's been a lot done to make sure our elections are fair and free as best we can, and there's more to be done.
But if you use that as an excuse, then you're a Harris voter.
You might as well be, because you're staying at home.
And we need every vote we can get.
And if you're out there and you don't like Donald Trump, we talked about this earlier in the show, how do we talk to people?
You may not like Donald Trump.
You may not like his tweets.
You may not like his attitude.
You may not like his hair.
Whatever.
I don't care.
But my question to you is, if you're not happy with the economy, who's going to give you a better economy?
Donald Trump, who did it for four years, or Vice President Harris, who's had three and a half years to put you in the economy you've got right now?
I mean, you've got only one way to vote.
Otherwise, you're going to continue to get the same thing that you've had for the last three and a half years, four years now, and you have a chance to change that.
If you have an issue of the border and you want to see the border closed, you only have one choice.
There's only one candidate who will attempt to close the border, and that's Donald Trump.
You may not like him.
You may not want to be around him.
You may not want to have dinner with him.
It doesn't matter.
I don't want you to do that.
I want you to just vote for the candidate who's going to close the border.
Harris is not going to do it.
Find your reasons here and, again, get over what's going on in your own personality and make sure that we're looking out for our country.
It's America first.
That's what we've got to have.
Coming into the last part of the show here, we're coming back in.
We're going to have a few clips.
We'll have a wrap-up.
Glad to have you along with us.
This is Doug Collins filling in for Sebastian Gorka on America First.
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In fact, they were so concerned of this threat, they staged a coup, ousted their democratically elected incumbent, and installed Kamala Harris.
In other words, all her dreams have come true.
Really?
It really makes you consider the power of prayer, right, Cardinal?
Sometimes prayers take three and a half years and a George Clooney op-ed.
Look, I've always liked Gaffigan.
I mean, he's a funny guy, but I mean, historically here, the Democrats have been sort of off-limits for comedians for the last eight years.
Almost.
You didn't see it.
I mean, if they made fun of him, it was very little, mainly Hillary.
And now, Saturday Night Live is just roasting Harris and Walls.
And they're still after Trump.
I mean, they're back to sort of being equal opportunity offenders here.
But, I mean, last night, Gafkin, that was not the only one.
I'm not going to play the video for Kamala Harris' video last night, but Gafkin also had a reaction to it.
Hit cut eight.
I don't know.
As I watched that, I couldn't help but think of now I know how my kids felt when I FaceTimed into a piano recital they were at.
It has just got better.
Folks, if you've not, I mean, you owe it to yourself.
We're into the weekend.
We're running up on a weekend here.
It's time to have a great weekend, be with your family, get out, help people go vote, do whatever you need to do, watch football.
Georgia is going.
My Bulldogs are going to be in Austin, Texas.
Go Dawgs.
So we've got a lot of things going on.
But I also need to laugh a little bit.
And last night, again, we're just going to spend some time here with some of these clips because they were just, again, good.
And it shows by showing up sometimes, and this is something you got to understand, by showing up, you're able to show that you can be a leader.
You can take your jokes, you can take the sort of off-the-cuff comments, and it shows you don't have a thin skin, which Harris showed she couldn't.
More thoughts on last night.
Let's go to cut four.
I used to think the Democrats were crazy for saying that men have periods, but then I met Tim Walz.
And if you've not seen this video, you've got to go see it because Chuck Schumer is sitting literally right next to the podium when Trump is talking.
And to see his face here is just a little bit just on the amazing side at this point.
When we look at what's going on, folks, we've got just a few seconds here left.
Let me just say this.
We've got 18 days.
It's time to go vote.
It's time to get out.
It's time to put everything away.
It's now game time.
It's time for choosing.
We've got to decide do we want this country to change directions and get back on track, not only here in the U.S. and the world.
But we've got to make sure that we get out and vote.
So folks, it's always an honor to sit here in the command seat for Dr.
Gorka.
He will be back soon.
He was at a retirement today down in North Carolina at Fort Bragg.
This is Doug Collins saying, have a great weekend.
Get out and vote.
Take people to vote.
And if it's legal, get them out there.
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