Sebastian Gorka LIVE: Lessons learned: Oct. 7, one year later
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Oh, I love that.
I love that chart.
I love that graph.
Isn't it a beautiful thing?
But also beautiful because look at the number.
That's the day I left office.
It was the lowest border patrol, the lowest it's ever been.
Illegal immigration.
Today it's out of control.
But I love it for other reasons, too.
You know that. As I was saying, that was Saturday evening in Butler, Pennsylvania.
I was honored to be there in the first robe right behind J.D. Vance and Elon Musk for the, well, the opportunity for President Trump to finish his speech.
Three months ago, he was shot in the head as he turned to look at the chart of illegal
migrations into the nation under his tenure and then the skyrocketing tens of millions
it has increased to under the Harris-Biden administration.
Eight shots rang out, one connected with him, and another left Chief Corey Compratore dead,
shielding his daughters and his wife.
I was honored to meet with his wife's sisters who were there at Butler, Pennsylvania on Saturday.
It was an absolutely unbelievable occasion, not simply for the fact that President Trump went back to the scene of the crime where he was shot, but for the atmosphere.
50, 60, 70, we don't know how many, finally.
The numbers stretched beyond the horizon.
If you go to my Twitter feed, my Truth Social feed, you will see the photographs from the event.
Me with President Trump, me with the crowds, the horizon stretching out.
The snipers, luckily there were snipers on every rooftop, this time at least.
Oh, and one thing nobody noted...
All the Secret Service agents in front of the podium, nary one of them was a short, overweight woman.
They were all impressive male agents of the Secret Service.
The other thing that was very impressive as well was the special guest.
Eric Trump gave a great speech with Laura Trump, who was joined on the stage by Scott Pressler, who's turning Pennsylvania Republican.
God bless you, Scott. Great to see you out there with Laura Trump and with Eric.
But then, he didn't just go to the rally, seated right next to J.D. Vance.
He made a speech.
Is he the richest man in the world?
Probably. And he wanted to send a message on the platform, along with the most famous man in the world.
You may have heard of him.
His name is Elon Musk.
This is Cut 9. You know, the true test of someone's character is how they behave under fire.
And we had one president who couldn't climb a flight of stairs, and another who was fist pumping after getting shot.
Fight! Fight!
Fight! Blood coming down the face!
Now, America is the home of the brave.
And there's no truer test than courage under fire.
So, who do you want representing America?
Yeah. Absolutely.
It doesn't make for good radio, but go to my social media platforms, you'll see him dancing around the stage, fist bumping all through the speech.
He was having a whale of a time.
In fact, he was wearing a black MAGA cap with black letters, and the first thing he said was, I'm MAGA. I'm dark MAGA. The guy's got a great sense of humor.
But then he got serious and he repeated the same refrain again and again.
And he said, I'm going to repeat this again and again because I want to make sure that everybody understands my message.
What was his message?
It's a dark one, but it's a truthful one.
Elon Musk from the stage, Butler, Pennsylvania at...
Cut 10. There's only two days left to register to vote in Georgia and Arizona.
48 hours. Like, text people now!
Now! And then make sure they actually do vote.
If they don't, this will be the last election.
If your friends don't vote for President Trump, Elon Musk says this will be the last election.
And he's right.
And he's right. As a result of his commitment to save the Republic, today he announced something rather significant.
I'm reading from Elon Musk's Twitter feed.
He's got a pack now to help the President.
And he says, sign our petition to support the Constitution.
And earn $47 for every person you refer to sign the petition in a swing state.
Our goal is to get 1 million voters in swing states to show support for free speech and the right to bear arms.
Almost 50 bucks for every person you help to sign the petition and every person who subsequently it becomes easier to what?
To register, to vote.
Because it's appalling.
In Pennsylvania until Scott got there, Scott Pressler, think of this, in one state.
There were 600,000 hunters who weren't registered to vote.
600,000!
If you're a hunter, you've got a gun.
And you're not voting?
That's insanity.
The website for Elon Musk's offer is theamericapac.org.
That's theamericapac.org.
What was the response from the left?
Quite predictable. Here's Joe Scarborough, Cut 12.
The level of un-American activity that you just saw is stunning.
That is un-American. They know they're lying.
Donald Trump knows that's a lie.
He will tell you that the Secret Service, he thought, did the best job they could do.
The fact that J.D. Vance and Trump's family would out and out say what they said takes the threat of violence Takes the threat beyond where it was even leading up to January the 6th.
This is an increasingly desperate person, an increasingly desperate family, who's preparing for civil war.
Jeff, you watched some of the rally in Butler, right, on Saturday or afterwards?
Yes, I did. What was the unpatriotic pro-Civil War thing they're talking about?
The fact that he came off good and sounded well.
Okay. Yeah, I think that's right.
You know how patriotic it was, Jeff?
I don't know if you could hear this on the mics.
Somebody fainted from heat exhaustion, right?
It was a pretty hot day.
And the president stopped the speech for about 10 minutes so the EMS and the doctors could get to this person.
Do you know what happened about five minutes in?
Did you catch that, what happened?
No. With no prompting, the bleachers behind the president—this happened in front of the president—the bleachers behind the president started singing the national anthem.
That's why MSNBC cut away, because I was watching it on that.
That's the unpatriotic stuff.
The audience, by themselves, starts to sing the national anthem as this person is being given medical assistance.
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America First They actually add the whole speech?
At least for what I saw for like 10 to 15 minutes.
And then they cut away when you're talking about it happened.
Then they had the reporter come on and say everything he's saying is lies and all this stuff.
Wow. But CNN also had it too.
I was shocked. I'm sending you some images, John.
Is this guest from Israel or here?
I presume from Israel, right?
I think he's from here. I'm not sure.
Oh, really? Okay. We had him on before.
Oh, we have? Yeah. How was he?
Not bad, okay Do you want to do Cassio?
Because he says he's losing internet at 4 o'clock.
Yeah, just give me a second.
I've got to send some pictures to John.
Select, boom. Boom.
Okay, I'll send you some more right now.
Okay, Casio.
For here...
Oh, no. Oh, he's not on until C. Oh, that's great.
All right. So...
7...
Nine, ten, and fifteen.
Seven. He took a bullet for you.
What are you going to do for him?
Question mark and then right under that put www.TrumpForce47.com 9 Elon Musk colon open quote
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I want a man who gets shot and fist bumps afterwards for my precedent.
End quote.
10 Elon colon
Open quote.
If you don't vote...
For Trump, it'll be your last election.
End quote.
And then 15.
Kamala walks into the lion's den.
And...
Thank you.
Thank you.
Watch her hardball interview.
For the blonde bimbette, B-I-M-B-E-T-T-E, let's spell it like that, bimbette, of the, and put it in quotes, Her Daddy Podcast.
Had you ever heard of Her Daddy Podcast before?
No. Okay, good. I got those images ready.
Perfect, thank you. No, never heard of it.
If Alex hasn't heard of it, it doesn't exist.
It was created yesterday.
You want to come in with anything? Yeah, come in with four.
Come in. It seems that Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening.
Well Bill, the work that we have done has resulted in a number of Excuse me?
What was that?
We will be analyzing the last 12 months, given that today is October the 7th.
It is the one year anniversary of the slaughter of the innocents in Israel by the jihadists of Hamas.
And that was allegedly the person who wants to be president, commander in chief, talking about the Middle East, Israel and America.
Alex, if I play that again, if John plays that for us again, as the most diplomatic analyst on our team, would you be so kind as to tell me what she just said?
So, John, would you please play that again for our listeners?
It seems that Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening.
Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted in a number of Movements in that region by Israel that were very much prompted by or a result of many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region.
Can you help me out, Alex?
What did she say? She didn't even answer the question.
Okay, but what did she say?
I don't know. Movements in the region?
Was it like bowel movements?
What is she talking about?
She wants to be president, Alex.
Come on, help me out. Yeah, that's not very inspiring.
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Hey Jeff, do you think we should share the video or the response from the crowd when I walked out to check my seat?
Is that too egotistical?
No, we can get that one.
Wasn't that funny? Because my friend of mine, I was walking around with a cigar trying to find my seat, and then the crowd said, Hey, it's Dr.
G! Was that funny or what?
I liked that they got to Dr.
G, so they really know you. It means they listen to the show.
It means the branding works, right?
Jeff, we have got the brand.
All right, we've got some photographs.
Not yet. I only have two.
We've got two, and it's a little bit squished, but everybody says...
You're so much taller than the President.
Relax, guys. I'm a little bit closer to the President.
The President is 6'2".
I'm 6'3".
And then we've got some photographs.
I love this. This is an Instagram post from Emma Mitchum.
I don't know how she did this.
She must have had her phone camera...
Plastered in front of her face as she's shaking Elon's hand.
I think it's one of the most epic photographs of the whole event because he stopped afterwards.
Before he left, he said to his bodyguard, relax.
He had this huge muscle-bound bodyguard and he just said hi to the people, took selfies with the people.
And he was having so much fun.
Sat right next to J.D. Vance for the whole duration of the speech.
I saw the Baron. The Baron that was there.
Our good friend, Boris Epstein.
Corey Lewandowski was there.
Members of the President's team from Mar-a-Lago on and on.
And as I mentioned before, Eric Trump, Lara Trump and Scott Pressler.
Well, let's talk about any topic because we've got some amazing guests coming up on the show today.
So let's squeeze in some calls.
Let's go to line one.
Dave from Arizona. Thanks Dr.
Gorka. Maga Dittos from Arizona.
I thought the best part of the Butler rally, before I get to my topic, was the picture that BrickSuit got of Elon with his dark MAGA hat on.
Because Elon changed it to his profile picture.
It's intense. I love it.
Hang on, hang on, hang on. Elon changed.
He used BrickSuit because BrickSuit was in the front row with us.
Hang on. I've got to verify our information from Dave right here.
Let's go in real time.
To Elon Musk.
Oh my gosh, you're right!
Whoa! He got the afternoon sun on his face, the dark MAGA. And you're telling me that's Brick Suits' photograph?
Sir, yes, sir. Yeah.
Brick Eye and Jesse know each other for years.
Yeah, he mentioned that to her in his Twix feed.
That's his photo of Dark Maga.
We love it. We love it.
We salute Brick Suit.
Anything else you want to mention from a butler or anything else, Dave?
Yeah, I do.
I need to mention something from State 48 because I know you have...
You've got to be quick, dude. You've got to be quick.
Go, go, go, go, go. The AZGOP lawyer just resigned, so we have nobody to battle for election integrity in State 48.
Why did they resign?
The election integrity lawyer, Langhofer, just resigned.
Why? Effective on Wednesday.
Why? When the ballot dropped.
Well, because he's a rhino.
Oh, good. Well, that's good news.
We'll get somebody from Arizona on the show and we'll have to replace him.
But thank you. Arizona GOP lawyer Rhino has resigned.
Thank you for the update. Let's go to Phil in Philly.
You got a minute, Phil. Hey, Dr.
G. Just your thoughts on this.
J. Edgar Hoover had a list of gangsters that were terrorizing this nation.
He went after them full force.
Now, Cash Patel wrote the book, and he's got a list of gangsters that are basically terrorizing this nation.
What about an American bureau with him at the head of it that can go to all these 17 bureaus that are corrupted and get these people out of there?
No jail time. What about just exile?
I don't think we have statutes for exile in America.
This isn't, you know, the Indian Raj.
But yeah, cash has to be somewhere that's key to draining the deep state and getting justice for all the political prisoners who've been targeted by the deep state.
But let's not talk about personnel.
We've got 29 days to go.
We don't have time for those discussions.
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Did you see what happened the other day with the teleprompter with her?
That was not a pretty sight.
Remember his number, 32.
Today we got 32 days until the election.
So 32 days.
32 days.
Okay, we got some business to do.
We got some business to do.
All right. 32 days.
And we know we will do it.
And And this is going to be a very tight race until the very end.
This is going to be a very tight race until the very end.
We are the underdog and we know we have some hard work ahead.
The teleprompter went off and she went off too.
She didn't know what the hell happened.
32 days! 32 days, we got some business to do.
Alex, if you can't function because your teleprompter goes off, can you be president?
Is that kind of like, is that doable?
I don't think she can.
32 days and she used to ride a school bus.
That's the other thing, right? Don't forget the Venn diagrams.
And the Venn diagrams. Venn diagrams.
However, the performance of Elon Musk, he didn't need a teleprompter.
He didn't even have a teleprompter.
He spoke extemporaneously on the stage for quite a while.
And then President Trump had something to say about the richest man in the world.
This was from Butler, Pennsylvania, Saturday.
We were there. Cut six.
Play cut. How good a guy is Elon Musk?
Right? Mr. Oblomov.
How could...
I mean that guy, I didn't know anything about it.
I get a call from a really good person in North Carolina.
They said, the people, there's no communication.
They said, do you know a man named Elon Musk?
I said, yeah, I do, actually.
He endorsed me very strongly, and we love him.
He's a smart cook.
He's a little different, too.
He's a little different. That is putting it mildly.
He's a smart guy. He's a little bit different.
And he's prepared to speak the truth.
I think it was a historic event, the likes of Elon Musk endorsing President Trump, telling the truth about the next election.
Let's see what you think.
Let's talk to our dear friends out there.
Let's talk to Judy in Brooklyn!
Hi! Hey!
Why are you laughing? What is going on?
What did I say that's so funny?
I'm trying to save the Republic and you just call up to laugh at me.
No, I'm laughing because I'm in a mood.
I'm in a good mood. I'm in a weird mood.
Yeah, I'm in a good mood.
I'm feeling... I don't know, I'm in a good mood.
I was telling Jeff.
Jeff cracks me up.
I want you to know he's very smart.
He's very smart.
And it's so funny how sometimes...
He says things that are so elementary and spot on.
Like, you know, sometimes we try to knock ourselves out to figure out all kinds of convoluted, deep things and blah, blah.
And then he always comes up with the most obvious elementary answer.
Very simple, Simon, and yet so spot on.
He is the king of common sense.
Mr. G is the king of common sense.
But you didn't ring in to just praise my team and give them even bigger egos than they already have, did you, Judy?
Yeah. I know.
You know what? When I heard that idiot over there, I thought to myself, you know what?
I am calling you, and I'm calling for two things, two t-shirts, but this one, like the contrast.
You can have a contrast t-shirt where you've got a picture of President Trump with a MAGA hat, and you've got Kamala with a dunce cap.
Oh, that's good.
That's good. That's good.
Yeah, the dunce cap for her would be perfect.
I love it. I love it.
Did you say one idea for a t-shirt or two images on a t-shirt?
I got it. No, that, like, contrasts them.
I love it. I love it.
I love it. I love it. Thank you, Judy.
Let's go to another J. Julie in California.
Hey, Dr. G. I have a quick question to you.
The Supreme Court is ruling on ghost guns this week.
And in the wake of, well, the anniversary of today, I just kind of wanted to know your opinion on it.
Because here in California, with California Rifle and Pistol Association, we're all about keeping our Second Amendment.
And I'm kind of curious what your angle is on that.
What is the connection between ghost guns and today's anniversary?
So in Israel, you're not allowed to have a firearm, and if you do, you're only allowed to have 50 rounds.
Ghost guns allow you to develop your own.
A lot of people order their parts and assemble.
Yeah, I know, but what's the connection to Israel?
I mean, this is a Supreme Court ruling in the United States regarding the no need to register a weapon that you make.
I don't follow the connection to Israel.
This would allow those people to be armed.
No, it wouldn't, because it's the Supreme Court of America, not Israel.
Sorry? It's our Supreme Court that's ruling.
It's not Israel's Supreme Court.
True. It has nothing to do with Israel.
I just find it interesting, the timing.
What? I don't understand.
What on earth has ghost gun regulation in America got to do with the anniversary of October 7th?
Because both of them are very political around guns.
But none of them affect each other.
Whatever the Supreme Court decides has nothing to do with Israel.
I'm confused. Stay on the line.
I'm confused. Stay on the line. I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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whether it's Facebook or Twitter X or Instagram or TikTok, whatever they are, if they don't moderate and monitor the content, we lose total control.
And it's not just the social and psychological effects, it's real harm.
Oh, that voice. Jeff, what does Hillary Clinton mean when she says, if they don't moderate Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter, that we lose total control?
What is she referring to there?
That they can control everything.
Who's the we, and what control are they losing?
I don't know, but it's very similar to what John Kerry said last week, too, about the First Amendment.
That the First Amendment is an obstacle, right?
Yes, yes. God, these people.
Incredible. Absolutely incredible.
But don't worry, Kamala is doing deep dive, incisive interviews in the lines that she gave an interview for Newsmax or Breitbart or Fox.
Or maybe it's just some blonde bimbo on a podcast called...
John, what's the name of the podcast in Cut 15 that Kamala did an incisive interview with?
What's the title? The Call Her Daddy podcast.
Call her daddy?
Wow, that sounds really tough.
Let's give an example to all our dear listeners of Kamala's deep dive, incisive geopolitical interview.
Cut 15! I'm curious, like, you don't do too many long-form interviews.
What made you want to do Call Her Daddy today?
Well, I think you and your listeners have really got this thing right, which is one of the best ways to communicate with people is to be real, you know, and to talk about the things that people really care about.
What I love about what you do is that your voice in your show is really about your listeners.
And I think especially now, this is a moment in the country and in life where people really want to know they're seen and heard and that they're part of a community, that they're not out there alone.
And so I'm really glad to be with you.
Jeff, I have no words.
That's not good for a radio host.
Keeping it real, Jeff.
Do we keep it real here?
Are we building a community on our little podcast, Jeff?
I think we're keeping it real, yeah.
Had you ever heard of that podcast, Jeff?
No, I've not. Call Her Daddy?
I've never heard of it.
I don't think anyone else on the team has it.
Do you think Kamala had any idea that that podcast existed before she sat down in that chair?
There's no way. No way at all.
But she's so proud of how they keep it real and build a community at Call Her Daddy podcast.
Yeah, and that's why she chose to do it.
There's a moment in time where you're going to think, have we arrived?
Is half of the stuff I'm being shown AI? Was it just generated by Jeff?
I don't know.
That time may come. He may be causing trouble for us.
At the moment, that one was real.
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Let's go to Jackie in Brooklyn, line one.
Jackie, you're up.
Good afternoon, Dr.
Gawker. What I want to say first is Kamala Harris, that clip that you played with her, with that baby talk, that gobbledygook, that Tower of Babel nonsense.
Yes. Doesn't surprise me.
But what I wanted to share, this evening at 6.30, I'm actually doing an online training as part of Protect the Vote for President Trump.
And there's another training session this Wednesday evening.
And I would strongly encourage those who are strongly supporting President Trump to engage in protecting this vote.
Yeah, absolutely. But who's running this training for you, Jackie?
It's through the Trump 47 apartment that you mentioned.
Good. Excellent. Is this the first thing you'll be doing with them?
Yeah, actively, yes.
I mean, I had attended the rally out in Nassau County, out at the Nassau Coliseum, and that was absolutely the best day of my life.
It was wonderful to be there, to feel the energy, to be part of that.
And to support him, you know, by physically attending the rally.
Well, God bless you.
What was it like? What was the energy like?
What were the other people like who participated?
It was amazing. It was absolutely amazing.
We got there at 9 o'clock in the morning.
We were right up front in front of the main entrance doors.
And it was the greatest experience that I've ever had.
The people to be around like-minded people, smart people who understand what's going on, who are such strong supporters of President Trump.
I met a lot of people that have traveled throughout the country to attend each and every one of his rallies.
And the experience was just so wonderful.
You could feel the energy. You could feel the love.
Everything was very positive.
Everything went very well.
And our great mayor of New York City, Rudolph Giuliani, he got almost the same type of standing ovation that President Trump got.
It was just wonderful, one after the other, absolutely wonderful.
It's like going to a rally.
It's just the atmosphere, the love, the patriotism.
As I said, when that person fainted from heat exhaustion, as the EMTs were responding spontaneously.
Hundreds and then thousands of Americans just started singing the national anthem.
I said to the person next to him, I said, you know what?
That would never happen at a Democrat rally.
The spontaneous singing of the national anthem, absolutely impossible.
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You gonna play the whole thing or you want to cut it out?
No, no. Play the whole thing. Governor Walz, you claimed you were in Hong Kong during the 1989 Tiananmen Square Massacre when you were home in Minnesota.
Can you explain that?
So I think what happened is I went to Epcot.
You can go around the whole world, and I had a couple in the Germany section, and I thought I went to China.
Anyway, I'm a knucklehead.
Okay, he's out there.
He's doing his thing, whatever that may be.
Come on, just relax.
You know, you haven't had a night off in three months.
Do you want to watch something less stressful like the Menendez Brothers show?
I don't know, Dougie. I kind of wish I had picked Josh right now.
Oh, Josh Shapiro? No, Josh.
Cabernet. Look, Tim will be fine.
It's not like he's going to say something crazy.
I've become friends with school shooters.
Yeah. Mamala, it's Joe Biden.
I can't talk right now. Tell him I'm not here.
No, no. Like, he's in the room.
Oh. Oh. You're not here.
I'll come back later. No, no, no, Joe.
Come in. Come in. Come in.
Have your seats. Nice and dry.
Ah. You've been watching this guy?
Come on, waltz. What's wrong with that guy?
He's crazy. Get your facts straight, Jack.
You gotta hit him with a, no joke, here's the deal.
Let me be clear.
Anyway. Jeff, I don't understand it.
That's SNL. A, how do they let Dana Carvey back on, who's a Trumpster?
How do they make fun of Kamala's laugh and that she's an alcoholic?
And then make fun of Dougie and Tim Walsh?
What's happening? We're a month out from the election!
It's because they're so bad that you have to make fun of them.
That's how it is. And what I believe is they know that they're going to lose, so they might as well make fun of them.
Don't count your chickens, dude.
That was SNL, guys.
I'm going to play that again in the next hour, but we're going to talk about the dark, dark anniversary this day today.
Alright, what would you like to share with us and our listeners across the nation?
Well, last week you asked Dinesh D'Souza the foundational question America needs the answer to.
You asked, from where does the sublime courage of President Trump come?
What makes him tick?
What does he risk his entire life for?
President Trump is too wise, righteous, and humble to tell us himself.
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Stay on this channel. So many Israeli casualties from the massacre at that music festival.
More than 260 bodies recovered from the scene.
We're hearing from witnesses. Ian Pannell is on the scene in Sderot, Israel.
Good morning, Ian. Yeah, good morning, George.
We're actually only a couple of miles away from the Gaza border.
And when that infiltration, that large-scale attack happened, Hamas militants came right into the center of this town.
We saw wild videos of them opening fire on civilians.
Dozens were killed.
And this was the police station.
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on this for the American Center for Law and Justice.
Can we do that or you don't want to do that?
I head to Jerusalem office for the ACLJ, American Center for Law and Justice.
My title there is Senior Counsel, American Center for Law and Justice, or it's too late for that.
Guys, my phone is off now, so I can't contact you that way.
We chat, maybe.
Um...
I'm going to go ahead and start the recording.
Okay.
… …
… …can ever happen again.
And on this solemn day, I will restate my pledge to always ensure that Israel has what it needs to defend itself.
And that I will always work to ensure the safety and security of the Jewish people here and around the world.
Enough, I've heard enough.
Currently speaking is the person who wants to be the Commander-in-Chief from the Vice President's podium outside the White House.
A woman who, in an interview this weekend...
Couldn't say the word ally when describing Benjamin Netanyahu.
No, seriously, our closest friend in the Middle East, and she couldn't even call him an ally.
This is Cut 5 Kamala Harris.
Do we have a real close ally in Prime Minister Netanyahu?
I think, with all due respect, the better question is do we have an important alliance between the American people and the Israeli people?
And the answer to that question is yes.
Why is that a better question?
Because you hate Bibi Netanyahu?
Or because he was directly democratically elected?
Is it the same reason that Josh Shapiro was thrown under the bus as your running mate because he's Jewish?
Is that why you can't call Bibi Netanyahu your ally?
Before we go to our first guest, here's a reminder of what happened.
12 months ago. There are hostage situations inside Israeli territory and now Hamas, and this has been partly confirmed by the Israeli Defense Forces, is claiming that it has taken hostages into Gaza, possibly dozens of them.
Are you saying that these men who infiltrated Israel proper have taken hostages?
According to what I know, yes, they did.
What we don't know about the possible hostages, how many, who exactly, is it civilians, is
it Israeli troops, who exactly has been taken back across the border into the Gaza Strip?
Back up, back up, back up, back up, back up.
Quite hard to believe that was 12 months ago.
Let's talk to the man who taught me why our nations are inextricably linked.
The greatest nation created by God, Israel.
The greatest nation created by man, America.
Senior counsel to the American Center for Law and Justice, our good friend Jeff Balabon.
Jeff, welcome back to America First.
Thank you, Sebastian, and thank you for having me on this very, very, very sad, difficult day.
I don't know where to start.
I think the most prosaic and shocking aspect of all this...
Why is...
Doug Emhoff.
Jeff, just monitor this.
Doug Emhoff is taking the podium.
Kamala Harris' husband.
Okay, we'll explain that later if there is any explanation.
The thing that I guess is the most shocking starting point, Jeff, is...
There are 97 human beings still being held captive by the jihadists of Hamas.
Sadly, I think probably most of them are already dead.
Where would you start in our remembrance of today and the grim future that may follow?
Well, October 7th changed everything, and there are many ways to approach that.
I'll start with one which maybe we'll come back to, which is, I think it's important for the entire West, for the entire civilization that we like to think of as Judeo-Christian civilization, to recognize that every day for us is October 6th.
That the people who did this on October 7th want to do this to all of our civilization.
And that unlike Kamala Harris, who can't bring herself to say that the leader of the State of Israel is an American ally, When he is sending his troops, and his troops are not just full-time military, but basically the entirety of the civilization, anybody in that country is of military age, more or less, is waging war on behalf of all of us throughout the West against jihadists who have said publicly over and over, they worship death, they love death more than we love life.
They want to rule over all of us, death to America, death to Christianity.
Of course, death to Judaism.
This was a blow they struck against the entire Western civilization, against America, and Israel stands alone in the breach, alone, because this administration has not stood with it.
What do we need to know about what's happening in Israel right now?
What are your friends, your family members telling you?
Because from a national security perspective, I look at the last two weeks and I see A willingness, a steely resolve, the likes of which is quite rare today in Western civilization, with the utterly sublime Pager operation that apparently took six years to prepare, the ground operations, the taking out of some of the most heinous of Iran's actors.
Is Israel Is it possible that they're even more steadfast than they were after October 7th?
Can you give us a little bit of an update, Jeff?
Absolutely. And that's very well said.
So, on behalf of the American Center for Law and Justice, I run the Jerusalem office.
There is an operation. And a lot of it does have to do with sort of translating between countries what's going on, because it's hard to understand the mindset there, and it's hard there to understand the mindset here.
It's a shock. It's a shock that anybody would question who's right and who's wrong in this conflict, that America would tell Israel not to go into Rafak, to not go after their hostages, to not try and dismantle and utterly destroy this evil that took place on October 7th and those who perpetrated it, to not defend their northern border, which essentially the entire north of the country has been vacant now for a year because Hezbollah has been launching rockets.
All Iranian proxies, again, all proxies of those who wish death to America, and they don't understand Why there's any hesitation, and yet this administration has been blackmailing it and withholding and extorting from it and threatening it.
And they literally now have taken this opportunity to issue sanctions on Jews just for a living, just for existing over where they want to have a new terror state that they want to call the state of Palestine.
It has never been, and it will never be.
Yes, Sebastian, the resolve for Jews all over the world, but especially in Israel, is stronger than ever.
And I will say this, whereas people around the world, people of goodwill, and Jews around the world certainly rejoiced over that pager operation and over the takedown of some of the leadership in the north in Lebanon.
The fact is what that read to everyone in Israel was fear and anxiety and pain, because recognize this is a society that lives in terrible trauma, ongoing trauma, because their husbands and fathers and sons and daughters are doing battle daily against the most brutal of enemies.
Is there any fatigue in the last 12 months or are they standing strong?
We saw the political division before October the 7th with regards to the Supreme Court reforms.
Is that a distant memory now in your analysis?
There are those who are trying to make it otherwise.
There are those who are the same people who are funding up from the United States, from the West, who are trying to topple the coalition that was governing Israel.
They're trying to do it again, but they're getting very little traction in the street.
If anything, it's made Israel stronger and stronger.
And yes, as you said, there is fatigue.
There is grief, there is pain, but everyone understands there's no way through it but through it, right?
The famous line, there's no way through hell but through it.
Yeah. I wish to put, we keep the families of those who lost loved ones, the survivors, those who are waiting for hostages to be God willing returned.
We keep them in our prayers every single day.
I pray for them every morning.
But we need to put it into the American context.
And this is the one of the two political parties candidate for the highest office in the land, the commander in chief's position.
And this is her explanation this weekend of...
Her policies for the Middle East or the Democrats' policies, and I want everyone to listen.
This is the choice between the man who gave us the Abraham Accords, recognized Jerusalem, moved the embassy, and Kamala Harris.
This is cut for play cut.
Seems that Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening.
Well Bill, the work that we have done has resulted in a number of movements in that
region by Israel that were very much prompted by or a result of many things including our
advocacy for what needs to happen in the region.
It only could have been worse with the mention of Venn diagrams and yellow buses.
Absolutely unbelievable.
This is the person who they wish to have as their commander-in-chief.
Our friend, he will stay on for another segment.
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The question was, how are you going to pay for it?
Well, one of the things I'm going to make sure that the richest among us who can afford it pay their fair share in taxes.
It is not right that teachers and nurses and firefighters are paying a higher tax rate than billionaires and the biggest corporations.
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But we're dealing with the real world here.
But the real world includes...
How are you going to get this through Congress?
You know, when you talk quietly with a lot of folks in Congress, they know exactly what I'm talking about because their constituents know exactly what I'm talking about.
Their constituents are those firefighters and teachers.
Can you find a B-roll of the demonstrations here in America, guys, the pro-Palestinian stuff?
And just play it in the background when I start talking.
I don't know where that stuff is.
Let me see if we get this last cut and then I'll see if I can work.
I want to make the point that you exemplify the America First idea and that there's no contradiction on the country.
To be America First now means to stand for Israel.
That's super important. I'll tee that up for you.
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Jeff, as a former deputy to the president, I still feel...
There's a misunderstanding with regards to my former boss's foreign policy and national security stance, and a lot of actual malicious intent in perverting what he means by America first, which for us never meant America alone.
And I want you to give your own take, but what people miss is the president's actions and his own words, not just the moving of the embassy and the recognition of Jerusalem, but this Little excerpt from the most important speech I think he ever gave after he came down from those escalators.
It's at the site of the Warsaw Uprising.
Steve Bannon and I helped to frame the speech.
We didn't write it. We just helped to frame it.
But this one sentence goes to why October the 7th is as important for every American as it is for every Israeli and every Jew.
Will you please play that cut, John?
We have to remember that our defense is not just a commitment of money.
It is a commitment of will.
Because as the Polish experience reminds us, the defense of the West ultimately rests not only on means, but also on the will of its people to prevail and be successful and get what you have to have.
The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive.
Do we have the confidence in our values to defend them at any cost?
Do we have enough respect for our citizens to protect our borders?
Do we have the desire and the courage to preserve our civilization in the face of those who would subvert and destroy it?
That was six years before October the 7th.
Isn't that the only question, whether we have the will in Judeo-Christian civilization to stop those who wish to destroy our civilization, Jeff?
Just so, Sebastian, and that's exactly right.
You know, people simplify Donald Trump's vision and his words and his actions and his policies, and people use words like isolationism, and they mischaracterize America first to mean America alone, as though America would ignore.
But America, its superiority is a superpower, its global reach and power, and the Pax Americana that it presided over for decades It's being chipped away at over and over by rivals, by enemies.
And that attack against Israel was directly attacked against our civilization.
And Israel is not asking America to wage its wars.
Israel has never asked that.
Israel is asking America to step back and stop stopping it from waging its own wars.
And Israel has benefited America.
Yes, Israel's... We've pulled off some amazing feats in this last year and very recently.
At the end of the day, America has always benefited from Israel standing on the barrier, standing in the breach for our civilization.
Donald Trump knew that. Donald Trump still knows that.
And the other side, well, they side with the enemy.
To be America first today means to stand behind Israel as it wages its war.
On its behalf and on ours.
Could you? I think ACLJ is a 501 and you're not partisan.
I know that the people there have worked for President Trump.
But without telling anyone who to vote for, what are the stakes in 29 days' time?
Because I look at President Trump as the most philo-Semitic president since the rebirth of Israel in 1948, and I see the Democrat Party as truly the hotbed of institutionalized Jew hatred in America.
Whether it's Elchan Omar Rashida Tlaib, whether it's the non-committed voters in Michigan and Minnesota, or, you know, Josh Shapiro being thrown under the bus of being Jewish.
What are the stakes on November the 5th for not just America, but for our closest friends in the Middle East, Jeff?
Well, for our closest friends in the Middle East and for those cultures who are struggling to survive in a West that's really no longer so Western.
The stakes are the same.
And yes, I'm not telling anybody how to vote.
And yes, I don't do pardons in anything.
But it's clear to me that there's a choice here between good and evil, between the continuations of our civilization, of Western civilization, of Judeo-Christian civilization, which was really the founding of our great nation, the founding of America.
You started with that quote.
That I like to say and that you've taken from me and you attribute to me, which is that America is the greatest nation ever devised by man, right?
Because it's modeled after, intentionally modeled after the Jewish nation as created by God as recounted in the Bible.
And for that to continue, there's a war on that.
Donald Trump stands on one side of that war.
Do secular Jews in America—because I keep hearing this from my Jewish friends—oh, October the 7th changed it all.
I'm not convinced, Jeff.
What are you seeing? I think that—we've talked about this before—the word Jew has two very distinct meanings.
It is an ethnicity, but it's also a religion.
Think—imagine Irish and Catholic.
And so the Irish-American vote isn't much of a political force anymore, but there's still a strong Catholic-American vote, and many of them are Irish.
So, too, with the Jews.
The problem is we use the same name for the ethnicity and for the religion.
Those who are traditional, those who are faithful, and those who are also recent immigrants from other countries, like you and I, Seb, whose families came over from other countries, we recognize the greatness of America.
It lies in being vigilant every generation.
And they will be voting, I believe, overwhelmingly for those who want to support our civilization.
Those who have already assimilated away, well, they're going to vote like anyone else has assimilated into their zip code and their income bracket.
And that's it. I've been to Israel many, many times.
I have numerous friends like Jeff who are of the Orthodox faith.
I've said with conviction that whatever happens, Israel will do what needs to be done to save and protect their people.
I would just like it if America were on her side again.
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Jen Psaki explains why.
This is Cut 14. We've already seen them announce this, which I think is a great thing.
Vice President Harris has a number of interviews she's doing over the next couple of weeks.
Tim Walls, who I think is a huge asset who hasn't been tapped into nearly enough for the last month, is going to be out there a great deal.
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And people may make mistakes.
It's worth it. Put them out there and have them doing a bunch of stuff.
But we've already seen them announce their plans to do exactly that.
So Jeff, Kamala's taking risks.
That's why she's going on female podcasters for liberal shows.
The same way President Trump takes that huge risk when he comes on my show.
Yeah, it's called she's trying to run a campaign because she's losing.
The basement strategy isn't working.
So now they're trying to catch up.
That's exactly what's going on.
You said something... Shockingly positive the last time we spoke on air.
You're usually very cautious.
Are you feeling good about the next 29 days?
I'm feeling extremely good.
Why? Because you don't usually let the cat out of the bag.
What's going on? I just feel very confident.
You look at all the different unions, just everybody.
I don't know what group is moving towards her.
And here's the other. Here's my poll.
Go look at any Kamala interview from the last three weeks where she does a speech, gets off the plane, talks to people, versus the prior six weeks.
She has lost her pep in the step.
She has lost everything.
She does not have that happiness that she thought she had it.
You can tell she's deflated. The cut I played about her plan...
Oh, cut 16.
Sorry, I'm going to play cut 16, John.
If you're watching us, Jeff...
Her eyes, when she gets challenged from a friendly interviewer, she looks like she's panicking, Jeff.
She has no idea what to do.
She's deflated. She's panicking.
Yes. Okay, that's one thing.
But what about the steal?
Are you not worried about the steal?
I definitely am. But I feel like you'd have to steal an awful lot this time.
So I drove four hours to Butler and four hours back.
You know how many Kamala signs I saw on Saturday?
How many? One.
I saw one in Pennsylvania.
One. I'm not kidding.
One. What does a Kamala hat look like?
All right. If you're not watching this, we're going to post it on social media.
But this is Cut16.
This is a friendly interview for Kamala.
Play Cut. My plan is about saying that when you invest in small businesses, you invest in the middle class and you strengthen America's economy.
Small businesses are part of the backbone of America's economy.
But pardon me, Madam Vice President.
The question was, how are you going to pay for it?
Well, one of the things I'm going to make sure that the richest among us who can afford it pay their fair share in taxes.
It is not right that teachers and nurses and firefighters are paying a higher tax rate than billionaires and the biggest corporations.
And I plan on making that fair.
But we're dealing with the real world here.
But the real world includes...
How are you going to get this through Congress?
You know, when you talk quietly with a lot of folks in Congress, they know exactly what I'm talking about because their constituents know exactly what I'm talking about.
Their constituents are those firefighters and teachers and nurses.
Jeff, that's CBS. CBS is pushing back.
I liked how he said the real world.
And she's got nothing. It's really bad.
I hope it gets worse and worse for her in the next 29 days.
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We're hearing from witnesses. Ian Pannell is on the scene in Sderot, Israel.
Good morning, Ian. Yeah, good morning, George.
We're actually only a couple of miles away from the Gaza border.
And when that infiltration, that large-scale attack happened, Hamas militants came right into the centre of this town.
We saw wild videos of them opening fire on civilians.
Dozens were killed.
And this was the police station.
It was overrun by militants.
The scene of a pitched battle.
Many people died.
But as you say, the single worst incident of this entire attack was at a party just a few miles away.
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No better guest to analyze the situation today, one year later, than the president of the Zionist Organization of America, our good friend Mort Klein.
Mort, welcome back to America First.
Great to be with you, and irrespective of the substance you offer people, you have one of the greatest radio personalities in America.
You're just interesting, excited, passionate, You make the right comments at the right time.
It's just great to listen to you irrespective of the substance.
Well, that's too kind. That's very kind.
There's so much we could discuss here.
I was honored to be on a teleconference call with ZOA this morning.
You were addressing the Heritage Foundation at the same time.
I'm sure that went superbly.
What is the thing that isn't discussed the most?
In the last 12 months, is it the insanity of American students chanting from the river to the sea, you know, outside the White House here?
Is it the fact that we have European nations that are not standing shoulder to shoulder with Israel right now?
We have Democrats demanding ceasefires.
There are 97 hostages still being held.
And we have a great graphic that one of our team members sent in.
Is it the fact that the power balance in the Middle East is so absurd?
You have this tiny nation, we have Israel, that has huge countries that wish to see it disappear or are working to destroy it, like Iran.
And dozens and dozens of organizations, here's just a small list, of organizations that are being paid for and funded and directed by the mullahs in Iran.
If there's one thing, as you as president of Zohar, Could say, is the thing that is not discussed enough, which would it be more?
I'd say two things.
One, the open border, which is intentional, not humanitarian concerns for these people.
They want to bring in people who will vote for their party.
I assure you, if they thought most of these people were going to be voting against their party, they would close that border immediately.
But in the last four years, this open border has brought in several million radical Muslims from the Middle East.
That's not discussed.
They come from Syria and Iran and Libya and Iraq.
Their own polls show 85 to 95 percent of the Muslims in the Middle East are anti-Semitic, hate Jews.
They're coming to this country.
These people have become a significant factor in the huge protests you see all over the country and on campuses.
You have many non-students at these protests.
They include the 2 million new Muslims, radical Muslims, Jew-hating Muslims, America-hating Muslims that the open border has brought in.
That's not discussed. And secondly, what's not discussed?
Is that one of the key factors in October 7th, why would this have happened?
Could this have happened? Because Joe Biden, my president, our president, Gave Iran in the last four years $26 billion in cash and ignored the sanctions, meaning Iran now sells huge amounts of oil to Iran, to China, which under the last administration wasn't permitted.
They've earned another $100 billion.
Their reserves have gone from $4 billion to $100 billion.
They've used this money to fund Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, To arm Hamas Hezbollah, the Houthis.
If they didn't have these funds given to them by this administration, they wouldn't have been able to fund and arm these terrible terrorist groups.
That is not discussed.
In addition, Biden pressured Israel to give 20,000 work permits to Gaza civilians to come and work in Israel.
We now know these Gaza civilians put together maps, routes, where the kindergartens are, where the schools are.
What residents are in each home?
So the Gaza-Hamas Arabs knew exactly what they had to do when they went into Gaza because of these Gaza civilians.
Not innocent civilians.
95% of the Gaza civilians support Hamas.
93% support 10-7.
So when we're talking about sympathy for the Gaza civilians, understand.
They're not lovely people.
They're people who have enormous hatred toward Jews and toward America, and I dare say toward Christians.
These are the things that are not discussed.
And I might say, this could have been stopped.
If in May 2021, when Hamas launched 4,500 missiles in a 10-day period, Israel responded, attacking Hamas, and Biden pressured Israel to limit the response.
Israel could have taken care of Hamas then, but Biden wouldn't allow it.
And now Biden, again, is pressuring Israel to limit the response.
Not to respond to 225 ballistic missiles from Iran.
He's telling them not to go after their oil.
Don't go after Iran's nukes and be proportionate.
Why is Biden defending and protecting the Islamic terrorist Nazi regime of Iran by telling Israel not to go after their oil or their nukes and to be proportionate?
When it comes to fighting Arab Nazis, Islamic Nazis, you don't worry about proportion.
You do everything you can to stop them.
I have to tell you, the evidence has shown That this is not appeasement by Biden toward Iran.
They know by giving all this money and aid to Iran, it won't change them.
This is intentionally strengthening Iran so they can harm Israel and ultimately harm the West.
Remember, they say death to America and then death to Israel.
America is the big Satan.
Israel is the little Satan. Iran is one of the biggest dangers to America and the world, as well as to Israel.
These are the things that are really not spoken about.
It's in the piece that I wrote today for AMAC and for the piece that will be on Substack later today.
I quote the jihadis, what Mort calls the Islamo-Nazis, which is what they are.
They say, first we come for and kill the Saturday people, meaning the Jews, and then we come for and kill the Sunday people, meaning the Christians.
This is a war of civilization, Judeo-Christian civilization versus barbarity.
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Kamala and Biden colon allies of Islamo-Nazis.
Allies of Islamo-Nazis.
Put a dash there.
Alright, can you play for me cut 13, John?
Yeah. It's just categorically full.
No, Biden did not take FEMA relief money to use on migrants.
FEMA regional administrators have been meeting with city officials on site to coordinate available federal support from FEMA and other federal agencies.
Funding is also available through FEMA's emergency food and shelter program to eligible local governments and not-for-profit organizations upon request.
To support humanitarian relief for migrants.
I'm going to use that cut, and cut 19, but first I'm going to mention, I'm going to use that photograph I sent you of her today, John.
Copy that, I got that ready. You want to put it up?
I'll tee it up.
I need Jeff to comment on it.
I'm going to be doing a lot of commentary.
Hey Jeff, you're pretty smart always in the office.
You know, got a collared shirt, you know, formal slacks.
You care about your presentation to the world, don't you?
I think I know where this is going.
I mean, I think in the last five years you've never rolled in, you know, unkempt or casual.
No. You take it seriously, right?
Except for COVID when the dry cleaning shut down for a couple weeks.
Well, that's different. Yes.
That's different. And by the way, are you having to buy new clothes because of...
It's tough for you because you lost weight on PhD, but then you went to the gym and you became like the Hulk.
Have you bulked up?
Have you replaced the fat with muscle?
Yes. I've ripped a few shirts lately.
Not because he's overweight, because he's looking pretty tough there.
Can you comment on this?
When I saw this on the TV screens today, this is the press secretary for the White House.
What is Corrine Jean-Pierre wearing?
She looks like she's from, what was that Dick Tracy cartoon?
She looks like a mobster from Dick Tracy.
Yeah, she's got a bright purple button-down shirt on.
It kind of looks like something the Joker would wear.
Then she's got a pinstripe suit on, on top of that.
Male suit. But the suit is like 14 times too big.
It's like she went on PhD.
It's like one of my jackets.
Yes, yes. What is that?
I have no idea.
Okay. She's looking like a clown more and more every single day.
Especially because she lies and then she forgets that she lied.
This is the cringe, as Chris Plant calls her, on FEMA money.
We're not giving it to illegals.
Or maybe we are.
The first cut is now. The other cut is her a little bit earlier.
Cut 13. It's just categorically full.
No, Biden did not take FEMA relief money to use on migrants.
FEMA regional administrators have been meeting with city officials on site to coordinate available federal support from FEMA and other federal agencies.
Funding is also available through FEMA's emergency food and shelter program to eligible local governments and non-for-profit organizations upon request.
Jeff, what did I just hear?
This month she said it's a lie.
FEMA isn't giving money to illegals.
And then in December of 2022, she said FEMA money is available to help illegals.
Yeah, so what's more shocking is that she's been the press secretary for over two years, that she's lasted that long.
That's what's the most impressive.
It's her wardrobe. Exactly.
It's her wardrobe. I mean, if you look like a mobster, who's going to try and get rid of you?
They will just lie straight to your face.
How did we get here?
It wasn't Obama. It started far, far earlier than Obama.
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Do you remember when conservatives were funny and we could actually make jokes about anything?
Let's go back in time to a clip that doesn't get enough airtime.
Let's listen to the great Bob Hope.
You live here? Yes.
Well, maybe you know what a zombie is.
When a person dies and is buried, it seems there are certain voodoo priests who have the power to bring him back to life.
How horrible. It's worse than horrible because a zombie has no will of his own.
You see them sometimes, walking around blindly with dead eyes, following orders, not knowing what they do, not caring.
You mean like Democrats? Why does that not get more airtime?
I mean, I just like... That's real!
That's not AI! That isn't my buddy, Mr.
Reagan, making something Elon Musk's gonna repost.
That's actually Bob Hope.
They're mindless?
They just follow orders?
You mean like Democrats?
Oh dear Lordy, we need more of that.
One organization that's been holding the flag up high for humor and for satire.
Probably the best in the business right now in terms of their footprint.
And they were very courageous recently and...
Mr. Musk helped them out.
We'll tell you that whole story.
It's the Babylon Bee, and we're delighted to have with us for the whole hour the CEO, Seth Dillon.
Seth, welcome back to America First.
Great to be here. Thanks for having me.
All right, we have so much to discuss.
Your recent speech to the Moms for Liberty Gala, which I attended with my wife, which was superb.
We've got a clip of that. Your upcoming movie on January 6th, the greatest apocalypse since, I don't know, the dinosaurs were wiped out.
But first things first, for those who aren't familiar with the backstory, I watched a video in prepping for the show with one of your colleagues explaining the etymological roots.
Where does the Babylon Bee come from?
How was it born?
What did you do before it?
And what's the objective, Seth?
Well, the Bee came from a recognition on the part of its founder, Adam Ford.
I'm not the founder. Some people think I'm the founder.
I'm just the current CEO. I took it over in 2018, but it was born in 2016, so eight years ago now.
It was born of this idea that there was a real gap, a real void on the right for comedy, you know, really specifically amongst conservative Christians.
Like, they were not being serviced by anybody that was out there doing entertainment, and they didn't have any real talent that was attempting to offer something of value to their own audience.
And so there was this big gap there, this big void.
SNL, The Onion, all the late night shows, they all came at the issues from one ideological standpoint perspective.
There's secular progressivism dominating all of entertainment and comedy.
And so the B was an answer to that.
So it's been described in the media over the years as the conservative version of The Onion, which is kind of an apt description because we do exactly what The Onion does.
We just do it from another worldview perspective.
And so... We're good to go.
And so it was this inside humor that spoke to me, and I was just like, man, this is good.
This isn't cheesy. It's like really legitimately funny.
It's also touching on political and cultural issues of great importance, and it's doing it in a very insightful and effective way.
I think humor is an incredibly effective way of pushing back on bad ideas and confronting them and speaking truth to a post-truth culture.
And so I just wanted to get involved any way that I could.
I ended up taking it over in 2018 when Adam was very concerned about censorship and You had Facebook being blamed for Trump getting elected, and they were starting to crack down on the spread of misinformation by fact-checking jokes, which is something I showed some examples of at that speech that you mentioned for the Moms for Liberty thing.
And we were facing all this opposition, and Adam was very concerned that the B was going to get shut down.
I think those concerns were well-founded.
But I welcomed the fight.
I came in the door, and I was like, look, if they want to bring this fight to us and try to censor comedy, bring it on.
We'll fight that fight. And why you say it's the conservative version of The Onion, but it has this particular genesis in the faith community, which is not what we usually associate with comedy.
So give us the extra spin of why this is a Christian satirical page.
Well, it was founded for Christians by Christians in the sense that, you know, the worldview that's being advanced and the worldview that's being defended with the comedy that The Bee is writing in its satirical articles is the biblical Christian worldview.
So there are certain truths, like sometimes we'll break character and report, you know, on Easter that he is risen, you know, we'll just say that and we'll break character and not be publishing satire this time, it's real news.
So we have a very distinct worldview that we're getting across there.
There is that religious element to it.
There's that theological element to it.
But the vast majority of the content that we're producing is a response to what's going on in the world today.
So we're reading the headlines every day, just like everyone else, and trying to come up with ways of parodying and satirizing what's going on in the world, which turns out to be a very challenging project when the world is as insane as it is right now.
Yeah, we'll talk about how difficult it is to be a satirical site when the actual real headlines are worse than anything you could actually imagine as a comic or as a satirist.
And then tell us a little bit about yourself because I can't believe it's just been less than a decade because you have had a meteoric success.
So you're a pastor's son.
How did you come to become the CEO of Babylon Bee?
Yeah, well... I had an interest in comedy and satire from an early age.
I was kind of dabbling in it when I was in college.
I was anonymously publishing satirical articles that I was sending to the entire school.
The university that I went to is Palm Beach Atlantic University from 2000 to 2004.
And I was publishing these articles anonymously, and I got in trouble for that.
They were actually threatening to kick me out of university because I was making fun of the school.
I was making some of the faculty and staff.
Where were you publishing them that you got in trouble for them?
Where were you publishing them anonymously?
I downloaded the entire email list for all the students and faculty and staff at the university, and so I was distributing it via email.
So you're one of those guys.
You're one of those troublemakers who hacks into the system and gets all the emails.
Exactly, exactly.
And that wasn't received too well.
I did convince them to let me finish and get my degree, which was great.
I wanted to be a writer.
I would have loved to have been a comedy writer.
I just didn't see any future in that.
There was no real way to make money in that, especially as a Christian conservative.
I wasn't going to go to Hollywood and try to make it there.
I started out in the business world.
I was doing internet marketing for several years.
I started my own agency doing internet marketing.
I worked for a variety of both marketing agencies and in-house at companies that had marketing departments doing that.
So that was really my world.
I got into that very early on when Google was first blowing up and companies were starting to spend a lot of money on that stuff.
Then I struck out as an entrepreneur.
And while I was kind of doing my own thing with my brother as my business partner, we came across the Bee as just an opportunity that we were looking at investing in.
I didn't want to own it.
I had no idea how I would run a satire site from a business standpoint.
I'd never run a media publication before.
But Adam wanted to get out, and so it was either buy it or miss the opportunity.
And now it's the most fun and impactful and rewarding thing that I do, and it's our primary business.
Wow, that's incredible. We've done something amazing with it.
We've got to continue to talk about other things for the rest of the hour.
But quickly, I've got to ask, what is this paucity for conservatives when it comes to humor?
What happened? Did it just fall out of our backsides because we were too busy making money?
What happened? You mean, why don't we do it enough?
Why was there nothing like the bee?
Yeah. I think there's a lot of gatekeepers involved in that.
The media and entertainment industry, like I said, it's been dominated by secular progressivism for a long time.
There's a certain ideology that's taken root there and is flourishing there, and there's a lot of resistance to alternative ideas.
Most of the conservatives in Hollywood are closeted conservatives that are writing for, you know, they're often writing for shows without really divulging what their worldview is and what they actually believe and what they value because it's toxic and it's considered, you know, dangerous and risky to come out that way.
And you see this, you know, Zachary Levi just recently came out in support of Trump and talked about how he could be potentially committing career suicide by doing that.
You know, it's very dangerous to be a conservative in that world.
And so they just don't have much of an opportunity to do comedy from their worldview perspective in that environment.
There's got to be something independent that pops up that does it.
And so the Bee was really the first to do that in the satirical space.
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I witnessed your delivery at the Moms for Liberty Gala recently in Washington DC. Full disclosure, my wife is a board member of Moms for Liberty.
And dude, I don't know whether you have some British genes in you or something, but your dry delivery was absolutely superlative and the examples you gave and also the courage that you and your colleagues refused To kowtow and to, you know, surrender to the woke mob when you said something truthful or funny on Twitter is inspiring.
So let's start with a little clip from your speech about the thing that got Elon Musk involved with the Babylon Bee.
So let's play that little clip, please, John.
What ended up happening, I'll just tell you the kind of course of events that happened from here, it was we got a message to our Twitter account from Elon asking us, hey, I heard you guys got suspended.
Is that true? And so I went into the account, you know, I got a notification of the message.
I tried to reply to it. I couldn't because I was locked out of the account.
I could view it, but I couldn't reply to it.
So I'm like, oh, Elon's trying to get in touch, and I can't even talk to him unless I delete this tweet.
So what was the tweet, Seth, that the pre-Musk Twitter suspended your account for and said you must delete?
Did you say white supremacy is good?
What was it? I don't know if I want to repeat it.
Do you want to get suspended right now?
Oh, I'm already...
I'm banned on YouTube, so go ahead.
Well, we did a joke.
We were trying to come up with a way to satirize a real-world event that was so insane, it was hard to believe that it wasn't satire.
And this was a situation where you had...
USA Today had named Rachel Levine, Admiral Rachel Levine, you know, this transgender health admiral in the Biden administration.
They named Rachel Levine their pick for Woman of the Year.
This is a man wearing a dress and lipstick and heels, and they're naming Rachel Levine Woman of the Year, which is— Let's just be clear.
We put it up on the screen for our viewers on Rumble.
This isn't The Onion.
This isn't satire.
This actually happened.
So the ugly man who wears a dress, who pretends to be...
I'm about to vomit.
The ugly man who pretends Who tends to be a woman who, quote-unquote, is a admiral in the federal health services, was named woman, not man, woman of the year by USA Today.
So that's the self-parody of the woke world.
And then what was your response at the Babylon Bee, Seth?
Well, the challenge is when you're doing satire, you've got to exaggerate this stuff.
You've got to caricature it.
And so we look at headlines.
Whenever we come across headlines like that, it feels like it's straight out of a South Park episode.
It feels like it's comedy already.
And so what are we supposed to do? So one of our writers pitched this idea.
He's like, well, what if we just name Rachel Levine our pick for Man of the Year?
Which is provocative because it's misgendering according to the hateful conduct standards on these social media platforms.
But it's not satire. It's like meta-uber-satire, right?
Yeah. Right. Exactly.
We didn't exaggerate the truth.
We actually just spoke the truth and put it in a satirical context that if we actually name people Man of the Year, we don't actually do that.
But if we did, our pick was Rachel Levine because this person's a man.
And so what we were trying to do there, what I mentioned a moment ago, you know, what the B's job is, is to communicate truth to a post-truth culture.
What more perfect example could there be than this?
The truth is this person is a man.
This is a male individual masquerading as a woman and winning awards as a woman.
This is insanity.
This is false and it needs to be joked about.
It needs to be mocked and we need to continue to speak the truth.
So we had a decision, though.
We had to decide whether we were going to actually post this because we knew very well
that we could get suspended if we did hit send on this tweet and put it out there.
For those who don't live in the political world, don't spend any time in the metropoli of wokedom, why would you get suspended for calling a man the man of the year?
Can we just get common sense for a second?
Why was that a dangerous move for you guys?
Well, it's a dangerous move because they have policies in place.
They've baked their radical ideology into the terms of service so that if you disagree with their ideology, it's an enforceable policy violation.
And so, you know, they have these dead naming policies and these misgendering policies,
where, you know, if you don't use someone's preferred pronouns or you label them the wrong
gender based on their identity, not on what they actually are, what God made them to be,
then, you know, you run afoul of the hateful conduct policy.
And so that's a suspension.
You get suspended for that. We knew that very well. We knew that these were in the terms of
service. And then if we publish this, we might get suspended for hateful conduct. So
we had to make the decision not to censor ourselves and post the joke anyway. And it's
my belief, and I think I mentioned this in my talk, the jokes they don't want you to tell.
the ones that they want to make off-limits because they find them so, you know, destructive and challenging to their narrative, those are the jokes that we need to be willing to tell.
We have to tell them, come what may.
How long did it take for you to say, take the pitch from your team member?
How long did it take for you to say, you know what?
We're going to do this. We're not standing down.
How long did that take and how hard was that decision?
It wasn't that hard.
I mean, we decided—we bantered back and forth a little bit with that conversation of, well, should we publish this because, you know, we might face a penalty for it.
And then we're like, yes, we should.
Kind of right away, just this is the joke that we need to tell.
It's really a policy of ours that we don't hold back with stuff like that because— We feel like we make the problem worse when we do the tyrant's work for him and censor ourselves.
We have to be willing to push back.
We have to be willing to speak freely.
We can't be doing their work for them by censoring ourselves.
And so let them censor us is our attitude about it.
So we put it right out there, and it immediately got flagged for hateful conduct.
We were told that we needed to delete it in order to get our account back.
And that was the much harder decision because then the onus was on us.
They didn't take it down themselves, which they could have.
They put it on us and said, you have to check a box admitting that you engaged in hateful
conduct, which by the way, goes beyond censorship.
That's subjugation.
They wanted us to check a box, say that it was hateful conduct, and delete this tweet
in order to get our account back.
order to get our account back.
And so, with the onus on us, that was a second decision that we had to make.
And so with the onus on us, that was a second decision that say that it was hateful conduct, and delete this tweet in
Now, at this stage, do we censor ourselves, or do we just remain locked out of Twitter indefinitely?
And that was when we had about a five-minute deliberation.
We discussed it internally, and we were like, can we live with ourselves if we take down this joke, which
needed to be told, just because we want to keep access to our audience?
Is that the right thing to do?
And we all agreed that it would be the wrong thing to do if we went ahead and deleted it.
And so even losing access to our account, we said, you know, we got to stand by this joke and leave it up.
All right. Hold it there.
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It's truly like uber Orwellian that the pre-Musk Twitter overlords don't delete your tweet, but they want you to bow and genuflect at the altar of wokedom and say, well, we're going to suspend your account.
And if you delete your tweet saying that Richard Levine is in fact a man, well, then we'll let you back on.
So, I mean, this is the ultimate.
The ultimate communism.
You can let yourself out of the gulag, but only if you plead obeisance to the system.
So you take the stance.
We're not going to do it.
How does the story proceed?
Well, part of the calculation where we decided that it was necessary for us to take the stance is because we didn't see anybody else doing that.
And there's a real shortage of people who are willing to go out there and say, I'm not going to delete this stuff when they get flagged.
Everybody deletes it because they want to retain access.
And so that's how they keep their control is because we keep playing along.
And it was our hope. Maybe it was naive.
It was our hope that maybe if we do this, we will embolden others to also take a stand.
Maybe we can start some kind of a pushback, some kind of a movement.
So that was part of the hope.
And then, of course, Twitter did not accept our appeal, and we were sitting there in Twitter jail next to Donald Trump, just waiting to see what happened next.
And Elon Musk started reaching out to us.
I mentioned in that clip that you showed that he DM'd us initially, and then he eventually called us when he couldn't reach us by DM because we couldn't respond when we were locked out.
And we had a conversation with him about, you know, this crazy censorship and how comedy is illegal now.
You can't tell jokes that you want to tell.
And there's all these bad ideas that are being pushed out there that we can't respond to and push back on without losing our access to these platforms, which are truly the public square of the modern age.
You know, the public square has shifted to be these privately owned digital platforms, which are run by tyrants.
And Elon was very sympathetic to us, and he did ask us what our reasoning was behind not deleting, because he thought that we should just delete it to get our account back.
And we explained it, and he saw our perspective on that too, and he said, man, I might just need to buy Twitter.
So, you know, we heard him say that.
Is this the comedian in Seth Dillon, or is this in fact true?
Come on, fess up. No, this is true.
This is true. We thought he was kidding.
We thought he was joking when he said, I might just need to buy Twitter.
But when I say that, he did say that on that call, but he has also explained himself, and we've been saying this since the beginning, too, that it wasn't just about the Babylon Bee.
Elon Musk sees the censorship apparatus that's being wielded by the left right now as a civilizational threat.
It is an authoritarian, despotic, tyrannical It's a threat to not just democracy, but just to individual liberty and freedom and our ability to push back on bad ideas and promote and preserve the truth.
And so he sees that as a dire situation.
And if comedy isn't even allowed, then it's just that much worse than he even thought.
And so maybe we were the straw that broke the camel's back in that decision for him to decide that he did need to go through with an acquisition of Twitter, but he was already pursuing that and was already seeing that as a serious issue.
And so, yeah, eight months later, he ended up walking into Twitter with a sink in his hands and said, let that sink in, and took over his CEO and busted us out of Twitter jail, which was pretty awesome.
We got to hand him an IOU for $44 billion when we saw him the next time.
Dude, that's hilarious.
Before we move on, I've got to ask, is it dangerous for those who believe in the truth or To put too much reliance on one billionaire?
Because it's one billionaire and it's one platform.
That's not going to save the truth, is it, Seth?
No, and I think it's...
Man, how crazy is it that we have to depend on a benevolent billionaire to remain on these platforms?
We got extremely lucky that Elon happened to have the resources that he has and the outlook, the philosophical outlook and concerns that he has.
Otherwise, we would still be sitting there in Twitter jail.
We'd still be locked up and unable to speak the way that you're prevented from doing your show on YouTube.
We're thankful for that, but we shouldn't have to depend on benevolent billionaires.
There should be laws in place that safeguard speech.
These platforms that run the public square shouldn't be allowed to engage in viewpoint discrimination.
You end up in this whole debate about what rights do they have, what speech rights do they have.
These are conduits for the speech of others.
That's how they defend themselves.
That's how they get their Section 230 immunity.
And so as conduits for this speech of others, I think that treating them as common carriers, there's precedent for that.
You could easily just say, look, you guys, we're not curbing your speech.
We're not compelling your speech.
We're just requiring you to respect the speech rights of those who are using your platform to speak in the public square.
I think we need something like that in place in this country because we're losing our freedom very quickly.
Nagasaki. The heat death of the universe.
These are some of the deadliest days in history.
But none of them compare to the most deadliest day.
January 6, 2021.
Coming soon in the most epic movie event since Robot Jocks, Left Behind, or maybe even Son of the Mask.
The Babylon Bee investigates the darkest day in the history of democracy.
Where were you on January 6th?
In January? I don't remember.
Form in the capital, baby!
Scary stuff like this happened.
I'm a big movie buff, and I didn't even know there was a Son of the Mask movie.
I'm going to have to look that up at my peril.
That is the new trailer, the new promo for a movie I can't wait to see.
Is it satire?
Is it the real world?
It's at BabylonB.com slash January 6th.
See the full version today.
That's babylon.b.com slash January 6th.
Seth, I gotta ask you, I mean, this looks like a big kind of failure to me, because
it can't be satire.
It's got to be a documentary, because the current Democrat nominee for the presidency
has said that January 6th was the greatest assault on our nation since the Civil War.
So this must be a documentary, right?
Well, we certainly do as much as we can to mock that perspective as possible.
The January 6th insurrection day has gone down on the left as being as bad as Pearl Harbor and 9-11 combined.
Right. And the narrative is just so over the top and absurd.
And when you go back and actually look at what happened, when you look at the cases of the people who are being persecuted by their own government for just simply being there that day, we have friends, our friend Siaka, who stars in a lot of our video content, is featured in this film.
We've come to his defense as the federal government's been coming after him.
And it's just the narrative is so overblown and ridiculous.
It's so important that we chip away at that bad narrative and mock it because it is very mockable.
And it couldn't come at a better time.
We're leading right up to the election right now, a very important election.
And this continues to be something that the left uses as a tool to try to bludgeon Trump with.
And so we're trying to blunt that a little bit and ward off that attack.
When can they see the full movie, Seth?
October 11th it releases to Babylon B subscribers, but you can check out the trailer there on that landing page you just mentioned, BabylonB.com slash January 6th.
We have the trailer there now, and then on October 11th you can watch the whole thing as a member.
Well, I can't wait. So it's BabylonB.com slash January 6th.
Your reaction to SNL last weekend before last making a joke skit about President Trump being shot?
Well, I don't like to say that jokes should be off limits.
I'm very reserved about what should not be joked about.
But depending on how you joke, you know, sometimes jokes can be very mean and malicious.
And they tell you a lot more about the person making the joke than they do about the person who's the object of the joke.
And I think that's what is happening in cases like that, is they're just really telling on themselves and exposing the kind of hatred and animosity they have in their hearts.
There are There's so many people.
There have been people who have been going around and polling Democrats and asking them if they think that it would have been better had Trump been killed by these assassination attempts.
And it's like 3 in 10 or 4 in 10 are saying yes.
It's absolutely wild.
And this is the party of tolerance and kindness and love.
Are you kidding me? Why do you do what you do?
I've always said I have an excuse.
My father was liberated from a life sentence in a political prison, in a communist dictatorship.
My friend Gordon Chang likewise has seen what communist China looks like.
I don't know what President Trump's excuse is.
He was born in America to a wealthy family.
He's a billionaire. The fact that he went back to Butler, Pennsylvania is kind of mind-blowing.
What's your excuse?
What is the source of your courage, Seth?
I don't know.
That's a very difficult question to answer.
I don't think anybody really likes to talk about how courageous they are.
I think I had a good upbringing.
I was raised by parents who...
Who believe in God, who believe that we're all made in God's image.
They value the truth.
They value, you know, standing up for what's right and being willing to pay a price for your convictions.
And so, you know, I was raised, I think, the right way.
I've read a lot of authors who have, you know, convinced me of the importance of defending objective truth and goodness and beauty.
I'm convinced by those arguments.
Largely because of my faith, which undergirds that reality.
And so I just see it as, you know, there are wars that happen.
There are physical wars that happen that are extremely important to be on the right side of.
And battles are often necessary to protect innocent life and whatever.
But there are always, in every age, at all times, spiritual wars going on behind the scenes.
The realer war, as the Screwtape Letters illustrates from C.S. Lewis in his satirical account of Of, you know, temptation and how the devil is at work behind the scenes.
There are these wars that are going on where, spiritually, the truth, the reality, goodness, and beauty are all under attack at all times.
And there have to be people who are willing to push back on that stuff, because minds and hearts really can be changed by persuasion, by comedy.
And so, you know, we need people who are willing to go out there and actually challenge this stuff head on and be willing to pay a price for freedom and for the truth.
I often ask my guests here on the Manhood Hour, what is the most important thing we have to teach young boys and young men?
If you were starting a curricula right now to bring back the values of yore that could help save our civilization, where would you begin?
What is the first thing young boys need to learn?
Well, one of the first things—well, they do need to learn that there is a God that we're all accountable to who created us in His image and who loves us, and that should color everything with how they look at the world and how they treat other people.
But beyond that, they also need to learn about objective truth.
There is real right and wrong, and it does actually matter, and it is worth defending and paying a price.
That's what's being eroded and torn away by what I've described as the post-truth culture.
Lewis, to mention him again, wrote about this in The Abolition of Man.
Our curriculum, our teaching is instructing young people to be super concerned with themselves, including their own subjective view of what's real and what matters and what's true.
And subjectivism is not the way.
There is objective moral truth and goodness, and we need to be willing to pay a price to defend it.
How did we get to a point that in our nation one of two of our political parties really hates what our civilization stands for?
They want open borders.
They believe men can become women.
They give billions of dollars to our enemies.
How did that happen? It didn't begin with Obama.
It's a much, much older story.
It begins 80 years ago, and the whole tale is explained with the receipts by Katie in her new book, Next Gen Marxism with Mike Gonzalez.
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Hopefully we'll be able to get you back maybe after the movie comes out.
But you're not just a businessman or a satirist or the CEO of the Babylon Bee.
You're a patriot. You're a conservative.
And I wanted to ask you, What is out there that we most need to fix in whether you call it the conservative movement, the patriotic movement, those who love America?
You're doing the comedy thing.
I have a real problem with isolationists, also the neo-Buchananite wing of the movement.
Is there something that scratches your itch that you'd like to see us grapple with more as patriots?
Yeah, I think there are some issues on the right that need to be resolved and addressed, and we could spend another hour going into all of that and digging into it.
I object to some of the same things that you do.
I'm really concerned about the rise of what I see as kind of, some are describing it as the woke right, which is sort of an equal but opposite reaction to the woke left, where we have some commentators and personalities who are I'm capitalizing on the trust that they have in their audiences to engage in this kind of, you know, critical consciousness thinking where the powers that be have been concealing the truth from us and they're going to expose the real truth about everything.
And there's like... There's always some truth to every one of these lies.
It is certainly the case that we're lied to about a lot of things.
It is certainly the case that we can't trust our government all of the time.
Obviously, that's true. We've seen countless examples of situations where they're trying to pull the wool over our eyes and misleading us or mistreating us.
But to act like everything, including all of history, everything that you've ever learned or been taught as a lie, The Zionist or somebody is pulling all the strings.
Hitler was the victim.
Churchill was the bad guy.
This insanity. Everything you've learned about World War II and everything else, it's all a lie.
Maybe Hitler wasn't so bad.
Maybe Churchill was really the worst who's ever lived.
This kind of recasting of things, and I'm going to give you the truth, the real truth that's been withheld from you by the oppressors, the people who have occupied our institutions and are controlling the narratives and everything.
It's the woke right.
It's the woke right answering the woke left.
Certainly, there's room for skepticism.
We shouldn't just trust everything that we're told.
I've never believed that.
But there is such a thing as irrational and unhealthy skepticism that colors everything through that lens and then tries to, simply because of the reaction that you get when you challenge some of these things, They then cite that reaction as obvious proof that they're onto something and they're saying something true.
I think that's really dangerous and it's really foolish.
And it's whether you want to call it a grift or what, I don't know what the motivations are behind it, but the right has some things to grapple with for sure.
And I think that we need to be reasonable.
So yes, be skeptical, sure, but be reasonable with your skepticism.
Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater with everything that you've encountered, including everything you've ever been taught in history class.
Let's be rational skeptics.
Yeah, it's the thin line between skepticism and cynicism, and a cynicism which actually turns you into a permanent victim, just like the woke left wants us to be.
Yes. All right, I think we can continue that at least for another hour.
We shall do so in the meantime.
Babylonbee.com.
He joined us from the road.
We're very grateful to Seth Dillon.
Babylonbee.com slash January 6th for the full promo of their upcoming movie.
I'm Sebastian Gorky. You've been listening to The Manhood Hour.