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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Who won the debate last night?

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	the and innocent people were murdered.
	My husband of 30 years was one of them.
	It is outrageous that our government would ever entertain the thought of granting the terrorists a plea deal.
	If not for the outcry of the 9-11 community, who knows what might have transpired.
	It has been 23 years and the families deserve justice and accountability.
	The elected officials here today show their respect and reverence to the families on September 11th.
	Or in our president's words, June 9-11, quite a flippant remark.
	But please remember that the September 11th families live it every day, not just on the anniversary.
	That was Joanne Barbera this morning on the 23rd anniversary of the horrific September
	11th attacks, during which her husband Gerard A. Barbera, fire chief of the FDNY, was killed
	when the South Tower of the World Trade Center collapsed at 9.59.
	She sent a very powerful message to the political leaders who have been rather flippant about
	that event.
	And especially those who, like Kamala Harris yesterday, said that the January 6th insurrection was the greatest threat to America since the Civil War.
	Really, Kamala?
	Really.
	Greater than Pearl Harbor or September the 11th.
	We have a challenge today.
	We have to do our duty to pay our respects to those who we lost.
	3,977 lost in the World Trade Center attack at the Pentagon and at the field in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
	and lost in the World Trade Center attack at the Pentagon and at the field in Shanksville,
	Pennsylvania that was the flight 93 where the passengers realized that they were the
	next aircraft and that they also would be flown into a building in Washington, D.C.
	and they said, we're going to save lives by sacrificing ours.
	The ultimate Christ-like mission.
	They fought the terrorists.
	They gained access to the cockpit.
	And they fought for the controls of that cockpit and that plane, eventually driving it into the ground of that field, a field where President Trump was less than 30 minutes ago.
	Afterwards, he went to the nearest fire station in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, to pay his respects.
	I don't want to get too rose-tinted about it, but to see To see in New York this morning both sides of the political divide standing in a line next to each other.
	We had Biden.
	We had Kamala.
	And President Trump and J.D.
	Vance.
	I don't excuse those Democrats for what they've done to President Trump and to my colleagues Peter Navarro, Steve Bannon, the J6s, 73-year-old grandmothers praying in abortion clinics who get custodial sentences.
	But at least on this day, at least on this day, they stood together to respect our dead.
	Firefighters, amongst them, who ran into the World Trade Center, can we just stop and internalize that for a second?
	What kind of man does that?
	You have no idea what the structural integrity of that building is, whether it's going to collapse, when it's going to collapse.
	Well, that one firefighter after whom the Tunnel to Towers Foundation was created, who couldn't get through the tunnel to New York, And got his fire gear on and carried it, ran through the tunnel to get to his colleagues, to get to the Twin Towers, to see if he could be of service to his fellow man and try and save those lives.
	A man who of course died on that day.
	Well the firefighter I met Last year, on the anniversary of 9-11, when I took a film crew to one of the firehouses in New York as part of a new TV series I was filming, where I interviewed those who survived that day, especially one firefighter who was still in uniform.
	Who lost two of his brothers that day.
	Both firefighters.
	Who didn't think of themselves.
	Just realized they had a job to do that was greater than themselves.
	And they ran to the fire.
	They ran to the explosion.
	We salute all of them.
	Because it's happening every single day.
	9-11 kind of gives us focus, lets us think about what those jihadi hijackers did, reminds us of the threat to our civilization, which is still there.
	You think of all the attacks since then.
	The Pulse nightclub, San Bernardino, on and on and on.
	You think of October the 7th.
	Americans as well as Israelis Slaughtered, raped, taken hostage.
	Because the war between barbarity and civilization will never be settled.
	I mean, until our Lord and Savior returns to this earth.
	Until that moment in time, until the final judgment day.
	The barbarians will forever be a threat to those who are civilized.
	Judeo-Christian civilization will always have enemies who wish to kill us or to enslave us.
	And right now, as we prepare 54 days to go, some of those enemies are our fellow Americans.
	Who don't hate America's enemies, they hate America itself.
	So, we have to do double duty.
	We have to run to the fire.
	We have to save our fellow Americans.
	We have to save the country in which we live with them.
	We salute all of those lost that day.
	We salute all those who died as a result of 9-11.
	From the carcinogenic materials they inhaled, they ingested at the site of that catastrophe.
	We say a prayer for those who have had to live without their loved ones on that day lost 23 years ago, the firefighter who lost two of his brothers, the mothers, the sisters, the wives, the fathers, the brothers.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, this is America First, coming to you from just outside the insalubrious fetid swamp that is Washington, D.C.
	We'll take some of your calls on what you think happened last night.
	We had a rather unusual conversation in the pre-production meeting, a lack of agreement on who won.
	Let's listen to you, 83333 Gawker, that's 8333346752.
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	Thank you.
	January the 6th versus 9-11.
	The debates don't really matter.
	All right.
	Nancy Pelosi was responsible.
	She didn't do her job.
	The question was about you as president, not about former Speaker Pelosi, but I do want Vice President Harris to respond here.
	I was at the Capitol on January 6th.
	I was the vice president-elect.
	I was also an acting senator.
	I was there.
	And on that day, the President of the United States incited a violent mob to attack our nation's Capitol.
	To desecrate our nation's capital.
	On that day, 140 law enforcement officers were injured.
	And some died.
	And understand, the former president has been indicted and impeached for exactly that reason.
	But this is not an isolated situation.
	Let's remember Charlottesville, where there was a mob of people carrying tiki torches, spewing anti-Semitic hate.
	And what did the president then at the time say?
	There were fine people on each side.
	Let's remember that when it came to the Proud Boys, a militia, the president said, the former president said, stand back and stand by.
	Incredible.
	Even Snopes isn't pushing that garbage anymore about the fine people on both sides.
	But hey, Kamala never fact-checked last night.
	President Trump fact-checked on multiple occasions.
	Rather differing opinion here on who won.
	We'll get to that in a moment.
	We have a poll on our website I'd like for you to sound off on.
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	We'll get your calls in a moment, but first, a special opera from my former boss, President Trump.
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	All right, Eric, I think the President didn't do very well yesterday.
	What do you think?
	I came away from that thinking that this is 2016 Trump all over again in all his glory
	and that was his best debate performance since the second Hillary debate, the famous you'd
	be in jail debate.
	You agreed, Jeff, right?
	That's the second best performance President Trump has ever had?
	Uh, no.
	I saw it a little bit differently.
	I think that was his worst debate that he's had.
	I think that's right.
	I think that's the worst debate that he's had because, and maybe you agree with me on the reasons, he let Kamala's lies get under his skin.
	That's exactly what happened.
	It was Kamala and then the two moderators going after him.
	It let him get angry and it took him off his game.
	It just didn't work.
	And the most important thing I didn't hear enough of, he talked a lot about the border, is just what we've been saying here for the last year.
	It's the economy, stupid.
	Are you better off than you were four years ago?
	Isn't this about winning over the middle?
	Exactly.
	I didn't see enough of that and it just seemed like he completely overestimated what Kamala was going to do with the way that she is when she's kind of talking off the cuff.
	He didn't expect her to have all the memorized lines that she had, and he never got her just talking off the cuff.
	Yeah.
	That was the only goal last night.
	She was spewing her talking points, and she always gets rattled when she speaks off the cuff, and he didn't get her to do that.
	All right, let's listen to what you think.
	Let's go to Peter, California, line one.
	Hi, Dr. G. How's it going?
	Ah, could be better.
	I'm a little annoyed.
	Little annoyed.
	Well, President Trump did great on attacking Vice President Harris and President Biden for their bad handling of the Afghanistan withdrawal, and good for him for rightfully staying, but the government erred with inaccurately reporting Andrew 18,000 extra jobs, and that illegal aliens are stealing jobs from Black and Hispanic people.
	He's speaking for the average American who was fed up, and shame on the anchors at ABC News for relentlessly fact-checking President Trump while not fact-checking Vice President Harris' false statements about the Charlottesville hoax, the bloodbath hoax, tying Project 425 to Trump, Trump's position on IVF and falsely claiming the January 6th Capitol breach was the greatest attack on democracy since Pearl Harbor.
	Because of this bias, I will watch another ABC News hosted debate again.
	NewsNation or SalemNewsChannel should host the debate instead.
	Who do you want to host it?
	NewsNation or SalemNewsChannel.
	Yeah, yeah, no.
	SalemNewsChannel, thank you very much.
	Or Newsmax.
	None of this NewsNation stuff.
	Thank you, Peter.
	Let's go to Robert, line two.
	Well, thank you, Dr. Gorka.
	I'm just going to, in a little bit, polish the apple here.
	I'm a Navy veteran.
	My brother actually served on the Intrepid.
	I served in DP-47 in Goldman Sachs when they were chasing after Russian subs.
	And my father was the Senior Chief Petty Officer during World War II.
	And I also served, got elected to the Central Committee of Okay, enough on the credentials please.
	What's your comment?
	What's your question?
	Okay, enough on the credentials, please.
	What's your comment?
	What's your question?
	My comment was, I think Trump missed one factor when she said about building factories in
	America and around the world.
	Now what about all the places in the United States that need factories, need jobs?
	So why are they building them around the world?
	Because she's a globalist.
	Well, I understand that, but I mean, he should have jumped on that and said, why are you
	taking jobs across the ocean and not building them here?
	Yeah, there's lots of things you should jump on, but yeah, the number one is the state of the economy.
	Absolutely right.
	And the fact that, you know, we have millions of illegals taking American jobs.
	Thank you, Robert.
	Violet, San Jose.
	Hello there.
	I have one thing to say, and that is, Jesus called the Pharisees children of the great liar, Satan, and that is my label for Kamala Harris.
	She won the debate because she won for lying and nothing else, and she rehearsed her lies very well.
	Correct.
	It was a tissue of lies.
	And the fact is, look, it wasn't a debate, Violet.
	It was, you know, three against one, that sort of debate.
	It was the two moderators, Kamala, against President Trump.
	John, San Diego.
	Hey, Sebastian.
	Since ABC refused to fact-check Kamala, here's a couple.
	OK, you know, opportunity economy?
	No, you kick out 30 million illegal aliens, there is no housing shortage.
	Second... Could you imagine the kind of opportunity economy we'd have if we got rid of 30 million illegals, John?
	That's incredible.
	Oh my god, yes.
	Tax cuts have never increased the deficit, and as long as you have unemployment, tax cuts cannot increase the deficit.
	It all evens out, all you've done is increase discretionary spending, and you've created jobs.
	Then she said she cleaned up the economy.
	No.
	Trump restored 20 million jobs in the last three quarters of 2020.
	And the most important point he made was that any job that they quote-unquote created wasn't created.
	Those were bounce-back jobs, people being allowed to go back to work after COVID.
	Great points.
	Thank you, John.
	More of your cause in a second.
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	Bye!
	Yeah.
	All right.
	All right.
	Good.
	That's a million times better.
	All right.
	So, uh, you saw the thing I just sent you?
	Um, yes.
	Okay.
	I'm going to use that.
	The actual tweet.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Um, and then I'll watch my call it Australia people.
	They said, um, God, now it's screwed up again.
	I just moved my head.
	Keep talking.
	Testing, testing.
	Yeah.
	Keep going.
	Keep talking.
	2024.
	Yeah.
	What about the Australians?
	Oh, I'm just saying that, uh, They also confirmed, like, a former Biden staffer who will be on to be interviewed at the same time, but it won't be a debate.
	They'll just ask you questions and that's it.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	And then, um, oh, just now, a request, uh, for a David Harris Jr.
	show at 8 p.m.
	to react to the debate.
	Sorry?
	A request for a David Harris Jr.
	show tonight at 8 to react to the debate.
	No, no, no.
	I'm at that event with Katie.
	Okay.
	What have we played so far?
	We played three.
	We played, uh, the 18, the 9-11 cup cut.
	Um, and that's it.
	Well, and then with Jim we played, uh, 2, 3, and 4.
	and four.
	That's a really short ones.
	coming with the...
	14, alright.
	I'll do my pillow.
	40 seconds.
	30 seconds.
	30 seconds.
	You You
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	We're playing with World War III, and we have a president that we don't even know if he's... Where is our president?
	We don't even know if he's a president.
	And just to clarify here... They threw him out of a campaign like a dog.
	We don't even know.
	Is he our president?
	But we have a president... Mr. President... ...that doesn't know he's alive.
	There were a few zingers and that was one of them.
	We have a president who doesn't even know he's alive.
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	Jeff, I'm going to send you something right now.
	I need this verified.
	Apparently, Biden was also at a fire station today, and the firefighters convinced him to put on a MAGA hat.
	And he actually did it.
	And there's a video of this.
	I need you to find out for me if this is a deep fake, or a cheap fake, or if it's real.
	Because if it's real, it's flipping hilarious.
	God bless our firefighters.
	Let's go to line one, Nick Philly.
	Dr. Gorka, great show.
	I want to ask you one question.
	Why was Kamala Harris allowed to bring two emotional support animals to the debate?
	This is a good question.
	Yes, two vicious, vicious attack dog emotional support animals.
	I mean, you know what's really shocking, Nick?
	CNN treated President Trump better than ABC did.
	Well, I don't think he did that bad.
	In fact, I think he did rather good.
	I don't know why everybody's down in the dumps.
	He defined Kamala Harris for who she was.
	He had to fight the other two.
	I just think he lost.
	There were some missed opportunities.
	I think like you said, today was a solemn day.
	They made a plea deal with terrorists to get them out.
	Look, here's my technique.
	This is what I tweeted out last night, and it went pretty viral.
	I think half a million interactions in just the first hour.
	So here's my analysis.
	Let's put the tweet up, please, so I can actually read it.
	Thank you.
	Harris performed better than I expected.
	No word salads, and she memorized the New York Times talking points from The People on Both Sides to Police Were Killed on January 6.
	President Trump wasn't as specific as he could have been, and missed opportunities to damage her credibility irrevocably.
	That's the point you made, John, yes.
	For example, he could have crushed her for attacking him and the Gold Star families for going to Arlington two weeks ago.
	Bottom line, it's a wash for both sides because neither moved the needle where it matters.
	The undecided middle.
	That was my take.
	Thank you, thank you, thank you.
	Alright, Brian Sacramento.
	I'm from Iran.
	I came here when I was 17.
	I'm over 60.
	I still remember how the dictatorship of the Shah allowed the media to be exclusively on his side.
	After seeing what happened yesterday with ABC moderators, I saw the same thing here, that fascism now exists in the U.S., where the moderators were exclusively on Kamala Harris' side.
	Kamala Harris' performance and all her unchecked and unleashed lies exposed her to Marxism—exposed her Marxism and evil character.
	And she has no plans but to further transform this country to Venezuela.
	Her performance should have opened up the eyes of libertarians, independent people,
	what kind of evil we're looking at, and vote for President Trump.
	As far as President Trump, he should be more factual.
	He should have left the cat alone, instead went after the women.
	One of them was Rachel, I believe that was a mother of five that was brutally murdered
	by a Venezuelan person.
	He should have focused on that.
	He should have focused on the inflation reduction actors.
	ramification where she passed it, he should have focused on the money she wants to give
	away, the $25,000, which is all bring inflation.
	So he should be more factual next time.
	I think we won, in a way, because she was exposed for her Marxism.
	ABC was exposed.
	This should allow the— No, but you're—no, no, but that's for you.
	They were exposed for you.
	But for the average person who doesn't have your experiences or your political savvy, I'm not sure that's the case.
	And for me, the biggest issue was he didn't get a few zingers in, but for the most part, he was on the defensive.
	And it's never, never a good look when you're on the defensive.
	Thank you, Brian.
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	Is it possible?
	And the fact that he puts it on top of his other hat.
	And the fact that he puts it on top of his other hat.
	Oh.
	Okay, pH to the top here.
	Thank you.
	If he's, um, not up... Okay.
	Five's a little too long, it's two minutes.
	Mr. Solomon, are you there?
	If he's not up, come in with nine and I'll go to Coles after PhD and just tell him if he's up.
	Okay.
	Bye.
	Was anyone there?
	I'm not sure.
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	national abortion ban Understand, in his Project 2025, there would be a national abortion monitor that would be monitoring your pregnancies, your miscarriages.
	That's incredible.
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	President Trump sends abortion back to the States, but now we're going to have federal monitors of pregnant women?
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	Do we have Mr. Sullivan?
	We're not connecting yet?
	Okay, let us go to Joe in Philly, line 2.
	Hi, Sebastian.
	What boggles my mind is when they try to bait Trump with that abortion stuff.
	It goes right down the rabbit hole.
	Instead of just keep insisting, it's out of the federal government's hands, it's in the state's hands, and just keep repeating that line.
	Instead, you start taking the bait and you start saying about, you know, this many months, that many months.
	Please.
	Yeah, I thought this one would be the easiest one to deal with because, you know, his success.
	He did mention his Supreme Court justices.
	The only argument you need to make here is we sent it back to the states and the states can decide.
	End of story.
	And then you flip it and you talk about their extremism.
	Thank you, Joe.
	We have made the connection.
	Earth calling Houston.
	Are you there, John Solomon?
	I am indeed.
	All right, good to have you.
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	John, I feel a little guilty today.
	I don't know about you, but I know it's a presidential election year.
	I know we had the debate yesterday.
	The anniversary of 9-11 shouldn't really just creep up on us, should it?
	It shouldn't.
	It shouldn't.
	And I also think not in this world that we're in right now, where the terror threats are as high as they were before 9-11, thanks to the Biden-Harris policies.
	You have the FBI director saying the world.
	Are you shocked?
	I mean, I don't want to get all kumbaya here, but I don't know, for a millisecond I felt a little bit better that we had Biden, Kamala, Trump and Vance standing next to each other in New York.
	That was quite something, no?
	Yeah, I'm not sure it makes up for the fact that ABC didn't ask a single terrorism question last night at the debate on the eve when terrorism is such a large threat right now according to our intelligence agencies.
	Well, how about the other thing they didn't mention?
	I mean, John, you're a real journalist.
	You're the head of a media empire.
	How can you have a debate for more than 90 minutes and one of the people there is a former president who's the leader of the opposition who was shot in the head nine weeks ago and you don't mention it?
	Yeah, I know.
	He had to mention it the one time because the moderators didn't bring up.
	Listen, the biggest loser of the debate last night was the traditional media and specifically ABC News.
	They fact-checked factually inaccurately when they claimed that there were no evidence that there are babies who are born alive and then left to die in the state of Minnesota.
	Governor Walz's state, vice presidential nominee for the Democrats, they let eight children die in the last five years, according to state records.
	After they were born, a portion of the children were left on the table without life-saving care until they died.
	That is according to Minnesota records.
	ABC had an obligation, if they could fact-check President Trump, to mention that they didn't.
	They owe the country a correction today.
	Maybe you have some... I haven't discussed this with the campaign, but I'm just curious.
	Why would a Republican candidate...
	agree to a debate with ABC.
	Why not say, no, I'm not going to do that.
	You can do that, but then I get to go on Newsmax or RAV or have an independent like Joe Rogan come in.
	Why this desire to say yes to the establishment that clearly don't have an unbiased agenda?
	I think Donald Trump has always made a promise that he was going to be accessible even if the people he was accessing were going to be hostile to him.
	And I think sometimes he lives to that promise even though it's detrimental to him because he's put in unfair circumstances.
	Why does he talk to the New York Times?
	He does.
	I don't know.
	They're never going to treat him fairly.
	But I think at the end of the day, Donald Trump subscribes a little bit to the P.T.
	Barnum concept of publicity, which is there's no such thing as bad publicity.
	You can use your skill set to change the dialogue.
	He did that last night after a really very difficult debate.
	At the very last minute, he gets the last word.
	And what's the one thing he leaves voters with?
	Kamala Harris, she's going to do all these things.
	Why didn't she do it for the last four years?
	A very powerful closing to a debate that wasn't particularly helpful to her up to that point.
	Yeah, we're going to play that whole two-minute closing from the President, because that was the best part of the debate, along with the, you've stolen so many of my policies, I'm thinking of sending you a MAGA hat.
	John, you've got the best connections in Capitol Hill, in the swamp.
	What are you hearing?
	Is there going to be a government shutdown?
	Is there going to be a compromise?
	What's your expectation?
	My guess is it'll end up with a clean CR where conservatives once again get nothing out of the negotiation except taking the spending levels forward the way the Democrats set them three years ago.
	I don't think Mike Johnson has figured out how to navigate his caucus, and until he figures that out, the Democrats have the upper hand in all of these negotiations, and that's unfortunate.
	There's a lot of things Mike Johnson has gotten through the House, deserves credit.
	But on these hard negotiations, where there's a chance for Republicans to hold the line and make a difference, he hasn't been able to find a coalition that gets him over the finish line.
	It's time to learn how to navigate your caucus, Mr. Speaker.
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	Have we forgotten 9-11?
	Mm-hmm.
	Uh, Daily Mail says it's real.
	Wow.
	The White House said it was a move to show bipartisan unity.
	Yeah, I bet.
	KD's book and cigars.
	Yep So
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	In Springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people that came in.
	They're eating the cats.
	They're eating... They're eating the pets of the people that live there.
	And this is what's happening in our country, and it's a shame.
	Not what I would have used on the debate stage, even though as soon as the moderators denied it, I posted the police report that confirmed that that's actually happening in America.
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	Let's go to John waiting patiently in Ohio.
	Dr. Gorka, thank you for taking my call.
	I have Two quick questions, and then I'll hang up and listen.
	First of all, President Trump has your ear.
	Thank God.
	First of all, why didn't he use the same type of tactics he used in the 2016 debates, the 2020 debates, which he won, and as well as what he did against Joe Biden?
	He could have destroyed those moderators.
	He could have out-talked them and destroyed them.
	He didn't have control of the mics.
	I still think he could have gone after him.
	And then the second thing of all is that, I know you know this, why didn't he also talk about he had that direct phone line for the veterans if they had issues?
	And the third thing, I think he ought to get a knighthood from England.
	God bless you, Dr. Gorka.
	I think he could get a knighthood, but first let's win the election.
	Thank you, buddy.
	Mike, Pennsylvania, line five.
	Yeah, Dr. Gorka.
	That'd be so cool.
	It could be Sir Trump.
	Wouldn't that be cool, Sir Trump?
	Sorry, carry on.
	No, no, thank you for taking my call.
	I love the show and appreciate everything you do and your staff does, actually.
	I wanted to bring up a couple of points.
	Again, you know, a little disappointing what we saw last night.
	I really wish that President Trump had brought up 9-11 and how, you know, on 9-11 19 people killed 3,000 Americans, and to this point, we've let in close to 10 plus million people, and what kind of damage could those 10 plus million people do?
	Yeah.
	Which is a very big concern for me.
	I mean, I hear stories about people looking at water supplies and all sorts of other stuff.
	It is not a good thing.
	No.
	And I do, by the way, I live right outside Bucks County.
	We've had Friends whose friends didn't come home that day.
	You know, he also, in my opinion, should have brought up the details of the border bill, which showed what a disaster it was.
	And then he also should have pointed out, in my opinion, again, the fact that he was the only one that got the votes to be on that stage.
	Oh, that's a keeper.
	Oh, I love that.
	Mike, stay on the line.
	You get one of our butler Pennsylvania hats.
	Fight, fight, fight.
	That is superb.
	Yeah.
	I'm the only one who actually got votes in a primary to be on this stage.
	That's why we have the best listeners and the best callers.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	Well, well, well.
	A million subscribers for my favorite conservative adjacent podcasters on the wrong side of the Atlantic.
	Oh my gosh.
	Francis KK.
	It was inevitable because you're doing great stuff, but you know what else is inevitable?
	That you declare who you really are politically, you jump the pond, you come over here, and you become Americans, just like other people with very cool accents.
	We salute you!
	Keep crushing it, my friends!
	Bravo.
	Yeah, the.
	Yeah.
	And I'm going to go ahead and close it out.
	And I'm going to be back in a minute.
	And dangerous plan called Project 2025 that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected again.
	I believe very strongly that the American people want a president who understands the importance of bringing us together, knowing we have so much more in common than what separates us.
	And I pledge to you to be a president for all Americans.
	President Trump will give you a minute here to respond.
	Number one, I have nothing to do.
	As you know, and as she knows better than anyone, I have nothing to do with Project 2025.
	That's out there.
	I haven't read it.
	I don't want to read it, purposely.
	I'm not going to read it.
	This was a group of people that got together.
	They came up with some ideas.
	I guess some good, some bad.
	But it makes no difference.
	I have nothing to do.
	Everybody knows I'm an open book.
	Everybody knows what I'm going to do.
	Cut taxes very substantially and create a great economy like I did before.
	I'm here for you, unless you're Steve Bannon, I guess, or Peter Navarro, or the women getting raped and murdered by illegals.
	Then Kamala's not there for you.
	Okay.
	She dialed in just a moment ago, which is good, because I didn't want to know in advance what she thought of last night, because I'm going fresh into this discussion.
	I don't know what she's going to say.
	Is she going to agree with me?
	We'll see.
	She's the co-host of the superb podcast, the Happy Women podcast, with my muse Kate Higalka.
	Jennifer Horne, did you hear about this thing last night at 6 o'clock your time?
	I did.
	I was actually working it, just like you, actually.
	Working the debate, watching the whole thing with our listeners on AM 870 and AM 590.
	Verdict?
	Wow.
	Verdict?
	Verdict?
	Okay, I have a mixed verdict, actually.
	So, I think the clear verdict is that ABC News became the story.
	I think that, obviously, especially David Muir was so heavy-handed, he let her lie even about her location on January 6th.
	I mean, here's what's ridiculous.
	She was at the DNC.
	She was not at the Capitol.
	And she even lied about that.
	Forget her policies.
	I mean, really basic things about her whereabouts were not corrected, yet President Trump was.
	I do think that President Trump should have been better prepared.
	I think they underestimated Kamala Harris.
	I think they thought she was going to be a layup.
	She is not smart, but she can memorize things, and that's what she did for the last five days.
	She memorized traps.
	She memorized the information that she needed.
	And I think it frustrated him when he felt like it was a three-on-one on him, and that frustration showed.
	And I get it.
	I understand why he was frustrated.
	But you have to show a little bit of optimism and a few smiles here and there, I think, to the American people.
	And I think he could have had a few more moments that he could have created.
	But on the positive side, Seb, I do think he had some big lines that maybe just didn't resonate with people, because they're all busy talking about how great Kamala was, telling her he was going to send her a MAGA hat, telling her, asking her if he was going to prosecute the people who burned down Minneapolis.
	You know, these are all really great moments, saying that she was stealing all of his policies and, you know, using her line back on her.
	I think these were good moments for him.
	I really think that she probably won, just objectively, in the debate, but I don't know that this moved the needle for anybody because this debate had no substance.
	Are you reading my tweets?
	Is that what you said?
	Are you?
	She's stealing.
	Plagiarism from my Salem colleague.
	I'm not moving the needle.
	Eric, she's reading my tweets, isn't she?
	Is that what you said?
	She's using cheat sheets.
	Now she's admitted to not reading my tweets!
	I see some of them.
	You can't win.
	Either you're plagiarizing me or you're not reading my viral tweets.
	This is what I wrote last night about the debate.
	Let's just reprise it.
	Harris performed better than I expected.
	No word salads.
	And she mentioned the New York Times talking points from the people on both sides to police were killed on January the 6th.
	President Trump wasn't as specific as he could have been and missed opportunities to damage her credibility irrevocably.
	For example by Crushing Kamala for attacking him and the Goldstar families for going to Arlington Cemetery two weeks ago.
	Bottom line, it's a wash for both sides because neither moved the needle where it mattered, the undecided middle.
	This was great for MAGA.
	I was in a brewery with a bunch of MAGA people who were like, whoop, whoop.
	I mean, they were screaming every time you got a zinger in.
	It was like, Okay guys, I think you'd be happy if President Trump was just standing there breathing.
	And I'm sure in Democrat strongholds across the planet, the same thing was happening.
	Oh wow, she's such a brat.
	She's so cool.
	But if you're an independent, if you're in the middle, I don't think it moved anybody in the middle.
	And I think that also neither one of them came off very likable for those people who were undecided.
	So I really think that if they do another debate, obviously back to the drawing board, I think definitely a different type of prep needs to be done when it comes to Kamala Harris.
	But you know I have to share something with you, and I've been dying to talk to you all day.
	I almost sent you a text and then I thought, nope, we're going to do this on the air.
	You know how I like to feed you little things that maybe will feed little things maybe to the right people in the Trump campaign?
	It has been known to happen.
	So I hate to exploit this relationship, but I have one for you.
	This morning, I was listening to local L.A.
	reaction of this debate, and you hear every white woman screaming about how great Kamala is and about their top issue is abortion, abortion, abortion.
	But they talked to two people.
	A black man and a black woman who both said they have done their research and they are voting for Donald Trump.
	Unexpected, right?
	So I would say today we are in the process of moving past this debate, maybe look towards another debate perhaps.
	I've also got thoughts on that.
	But I think today the Trump campaign needs to call Charlemagne and I think he needs to sit for an interview with Charlemagne the God.
	And I think it needs to be an hour long and I think he needs to do it absolutely right now.
	Because, here's the thing, you're never going to move white women.
	Can I wait until the break to send that to the campaign?
	Yes, but please do.
	I was dying to tell you this because I think, look, white women are going to love what happened with Kamala Harris last night.
	I think it's pathetic because here she is leaning on a man again.
	She had to lean on Tim Walz in her first interview.
	She leans on David Meir to save her during this debate.
	As a strong woman, Hillary Clinton wouldn't do that.
	I want her to stand up there and actually act like someone who wants to be president.
	That is my personal point of view.
	But these women are going to love what she does because she's taken on the big bad Donald Trump.
	He needs now to tap into the people who are willing to hear from him.
	And that is minority voters, particularly black men, and I think black women.
	And Charlemagne is the place that's non-political, where you can reach the urban audience and tell them why they need to support Donald Trump for something different.
	All right, I will do that only if you tweet out what you just said so I can retweet it.
	I love the idea that she had to lean on a white man again first in the interview on Tampon Tim and now on David Muir tonight.
	That's excellent.
	I will send that to the campaign.
	I mean, look, we know it's up to Barron.
	Barron has been getting President Trump onto these huge platforms, these new audiences like Lex Friedman and others.
	I roasted Joe Rogan literally five minutes ago because our buddy Jim Hansen had an idea.
	The next debate, I doubt there will be one, but if there is one, it should be Megyn Kelly and Joe Rogan hosting.
	And at least Joe Rogan can prove that he believes in the First Amendment instead of saying, I won't have President Trump on my show!
	Man up, Joe Rogan!
	Come on.
	And be the next moderator.
	All right, let's talk about some of the zingers.
	Here's one that didn't make him look good with women in the middle, but it was a zinger.
	Do you remember this from another debate?
	Cut 15.
	In Minnesota, she went out.
	Wait a minute, I'm talking now.
	If you don't mind, please.
	Does that sound familiar?
	Don't lie.
	She went out.
	She's gone.
	Walking now. Does that sound familiar?
	And then this one, of course, because she's stealing his platform, Cut 16.
	I don't say her because she has no policy.
	Everything that she believed three years ago and four years ago is out the window.
	She's going to my philosophy now.
	In fact, I was going to send her a MAGA hat.
	She's gone to my philosophy.
	But if she ever got elected, she'd change it.
	Just her body language.
	What, me?
	Me copying you?
	What?
	Me?
	Me?
	And you understand body language.
	I posted this.
	I mean, if you understand body language, this is the biggest tell in the world.
	If you don't have confidence or if you've been caught lying, you do the head-on-hand pose.
	And whenever she was telling whoppers and he called her out, she was doing exactly that tell, Jen.
	Yeah, and actually I think the body language on this debate was bad for both of them because President Trump just looked annoyed throughout the whole thing.
	We need a few more smiles, but at least he just looks in the camera and talks to people.
	Kamala Harris, she was with her hands all over the place.
	She was flapping around like one of those ducks in Ohio that's getting stolen by a Haitian immigrant.
	I do think.
	Just to jump onto your thoughts about the next debate, if there is one.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Let's do a tease.
	We're going to talk about the next debate, if there is one, in a moment.
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	I can hear that too. Ha ha.
	Oh.
	Oh boy, sorry I was rushing in here like a mad woman.
	Holy smokes.
	What's going on?
	Well, you know what?
	I actually was here and I lost track of time.
	My friend has been very, very sick.
	Like, transplant sick.
	Ooh.
	And, um, so her husband had just called because they talked to the doctor and he was giving me an update and then I went, oh gosh, I gotta go.
	But here I am.
	They just had the transplant or they're getting ready for it?
	No, they were thinking they needed one.
	The doctor just said they don't.
	And that's great, great, great, great, great news.
	Wow.
	So, that's what they were just telling me.
	me they had the doctor's appointment.
	you No, where was that?
	Why am I so behind?
	Because you're a busy lass.
	Oy yi yi!
	Let's see, when did that happen?
	This morning at a fire station for 9-11.
	I'll send it to you.
	And he put on a MAGA hat?
	Yeah, I'll send it to you.
	It's fun.
	Alright, I'm going to put up my tweet, your requested tweet.
	Here we go.
	Alright, alright, alright.
	Sad to see.
	Do we like another white man or just another man?
	Uh...
	Um... Another white man.
	Okay.
	Ninety.
	Yeah, yeah.
	All right.
	Dinner here?
	Dinner here, yeah.
	Okay.
	You want to talk about the other earring thing here?
	Yes.
	All righty.
	Oh, the earring.
	Twelve, and then dinner.
	Twelve, and then dinner.
	All right.
	70.
	Okay.
	Tweeted.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	You should ask.
	Will she allow abortion in the 8th month, 9th month, 7th month?
	Come on.
	Okay, would you do that?
	Why don't you ask her that question?
	That's the problem.
	Because under Roe v. Wade, you could do abortions in the 7th month, the 8th month, the 9th month, and probably after birth.
	Just look at the governor, former governor of Virginia.
	The governor of Virginia said we put the baby aside and then we determine what we want to do with the baby.
	President Trump, thank you.
	Now that, that was good.
	Forcing her into a corner and she didn't have an answer.
	And the great John Solomon telling us, in Tim Walz's state of Minnesota, eight children were born alive as a result of botched abortions and left to die.
	So when Muir said, Oh, that never happened when the co-host said, that's never... Well, yeah, it's happened in her running mate's state whilst he was governor.
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	Alright, so this is the thing that had me steaming today, especially since it came from Laura Loomer, who posted a photograph of a pair of earrings and said, oh my gosh, those look like Kamala's and those are headphone buds.
	She was being communicated with during the debate.
	Here was my response.
	And it just, I don't, I think these people are trolls or they're being paid by the Russians or something.
	Anyone who posts about this, This whole earbud-earing thing is either a cretin who doesn't understand politics or a clickbait prostitute.
	Even if it were true, which I doubt, given that she clearly didn't pause to listen to instruction, it is utterly and completely irrelevant.
	No one will choose a candidate on election day based upon whether or not they had an earpiece in their ear during a debate.
	My suggestions?
	Unfollow anyone spreading this diversionary garbage and instead go and do something by volunteering at Trump Force 47.
	Alright, I haven't rehearsed this either.
	Your response to this?
	She had earbuds in.
	Lunacy.
	They were Tiffany earrings, actually.
	So you're asking the right person because I am, you know, I like fashion.
	I like some pretty things.
	And those earrings that she was wearing were actually from Tiffany.
	I think that this is not helpful.
	I think that we need to operate in fact.
	And by the way, there are enough conspiracies out there that people have uncovered is true.
	So let's not push things that we don't know are true.
	And I think I was kind of actually disappointed that Laura Loomer got off of the plane with Trump after when he arrived at the debate.
	I was a little disappointed about that because sometimes she gets it right.
	But something like this, again, is not helpful.
	We had a call into the morning answer.
	Both Grant and I agreed that this is not it's it's clickbait.
	First of all, We're in radio, so we have people talking into our ear occasionally to remind us to do things.
	And I'm telling you, when someone goes into my ear and says, Midas Gold Group.
	That's hard enough for me to hear, and I do this for a living.
	I can't imagine- It makes me stumble.
	If I'm in the midst of talking and somebody talks in my ear here or on my TV show, you want to listen, so you stop talking.
	It's not like- Correct.
	The idea that this woman was being fed lines is just garbage.
	My point is, even if it were true, so what?
	I know.
	Is that going to make President Trump win the election?
	I think it's very possible Kamala could have had the questions beforehand.
	We just don't know.
	But it doesn't matter.
	What matters is that we get out there, as you said, and you're so right, and do the work.
	I think it was you that said President Trump is not going to win this himself.
	You've got to help him.
	And that is absolutely right.
	I've been filling out postcards.
	I'm really busy.
	I've been making phone calls for people.
	I am very busy.
	I still do it.
	Everybody needs to do it.
	We all need to set goals for ourselves to help this president get over the finish line, because the truth is Debates aside, earpieces aside, whatever thing you want to believe, fine.
	It is going to come down to a few thousand votes in a few states in even fewer counties.
	And so we need to make this matter in the places that really need us and we need to help all hands on deck.
	Stay focused on the mission.
	This is funny.
	I want to read this to you because both of us might be wrong here.
	And we need to just take a chill pill.
	This is from David Limbaugh, Rush's brother, who was actually, I was on the phone with yesterday, and it just literally popped up on my feed five minutes ago.
	These post-debate polls I'm seeing in which Trump was deemed the clear winner are accurate.
	If they're accurate, it might say something about those of us who follow politics more closely than the average voter.
	We may just simply be overanalyzing based on our expectations.
	Think about this.
	President Trump was not a jerk last night.
	Kamala was.
	That alone may be all Trump needs for the undecided.
	Is there a danger that you, me, and all of our listeners who are just complete addicts to this stuff, we're like overthinking it a bit?
	Because I said this earlier, she didn't come over very well.
	Forget, you know, the lies and the lack of fact-checking and being ganged up upon by the moderators.
	She came over like a school mom, like, you know, peanuts and then...
	I think, well, and you and I kind of both agreed that it didn't move the needle.
	I just found that out.
	So I think the reason for that is we have high expectations for President Trump because
	we know what he's capable of, and we know how good he is.
	And so we want the rest of the world to see that.
	And so when he has a few moments where he falls into traps, I think we all go, oh, he
	could have done better there.
	But the truth is, I don't know that either of them increased their margin with anybody.
	And so I don't think that David's wrong, and I actually don't think that we're wrong.
	I think that, yes, he could have done better, but I don't know that it's going to be a huge
	difference maker.
	And if you look at the polling, Trafalgar did one already today that's out.
	And they were tied 47-47 before the debate, and now they're tied 48-48, even though people thought that Kamala won.
	But in all of the other polls that I'm seeing online, and yes, some conservative media polls, Trump wins.
	And if you go look at David Meir's Instagram, you want to have a little fun?
	Go look at his pictures and see how many Trump supporters are trolling that guy today.
	It's pretty delightful to see.
	And I did a poll, admittedly I think a large proportion of my 1.5 million followers are probably MAGA, but I did a poll on who won last night and as of earlier today.
	With 11,000 respondents, 91% said President Trump won, so let's not overanalyze it, guys.
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	No.
	It's not over.
	But Charlemagne, Charlemagne, Charlemagne.
	Yes.
	That's a good one.
	It's excellent.
	All right, you guys.
	Have a great rest of the week.
	You too, my dear.
	You too.
	Say hi to Radar and everybody and Grom.
	I will.
	We have town hall on Sunday, so we're all running around like crazy people.
	What's that?
	We're gonna miss you.
	Your big event.
	Oh, who's that?
	Who's coming for that?
	Charlie.
	Larry.
	Yeah, we got Larry and we have Dennis.
	And then Charlie's doing an interview from one of the Swing States.
	And then we've got Louie Gohmert and we've got Mike Garcia and Steve Hilton.
	Will you say hi to Louie?
	I will.
	You should actually talk to him.
	He's a hoot.
	Oh my gosh.
	I love Louie.
	He's great.
	He's very fun.
	I'll send you his info if you need it.
	No, I got it.
	I got it.
	Oh, you got it.
	OK, good.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Thanks, my dear.
	All right, you guys.
	Have a good one.
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	We've got the cut.
	And we're good.
	He's on Skype.
	I'm going to try and get him to come up to me.
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	Recently, causing much furore amongst conservatives, an individual called Daryl Cooper, who has no credentials as a historian, was interviewed for more than two hours on Tucker Carlson's new platform on X.
	Well, let's just say it was a rather peculiar interaction.
	Here's a little clip.
	The reason I resent Churchill so much for it is that he kept this war going when he had no way, he had no way to go back and fight this war.
	All he had were bombers.
	He was literally by 1940 sending firebomb fleets, sending bomber fleets to go firebomb the Black Forest just to burn down sections of the Black Forest.
	Just, just rank terrorism, you know.
	That individual celebrated, well he said Hitler was the victim of World War II and Churchill was the villain and Tucker just nodded along.
	I'm indebted to our next guest who gave us a whole hour of his time and after we'd finished the interview he mentioned this happening and then his article on it and he has graciously decided to join us again it's victor davis hansen on the truth about world war two welcome back professor
	Thank you for having me, Seth.
	So, Victor, you're a fan of Tucker Carlson's.
	He's been very influential.
	Apparently, he was a key player in getting JD Vance nominated to the vice presidential slot.
	Those things, putting those aside, how problematic is it To normalize views of this ilk, you're a real historian.
	You've written The Two World Wars, a seminal work on the subject, amongst a whole library of others.
	To say Churchill was the villain and Hitler was the victim, this is insanity, is it not?
	It is, and that little clip you played, Seb, every single statement was false.
	The Black Force, as you know, is near the border of France, and in the latter part of the invasion of France, it was used as a supply depot and arms depot for the Wehrmacht that had invaded France.
	And the idea was to go in and disrupt it with incendiaries, and it didn't work.
	Operation Razzle was a complete failure.
	So the idea that it was just mindless terrorism, it was a military target, and it was ineffective.
	And the people who started terror bombing, of course, from the very first day of the war, September 1st, were the Germans.
	They inaugurated it and bombed for over three weeks Warsaw.
	Then they went right in six months later and bombed out the civilian center of Rotterdam.
	And the British didn't retaliate until they had attacked Coventry and London with that so-called area bombing.
	And so it was just It was, and the idea, it was the greatest terror in history.
	Does he have any idea the career of Tamerlane or Attila the Hun or any of the bad people of history who butchered civilians in the number of millions?
	So everything, I don't want to be, you know, too self-righteous, but almost every single thing in that interview was historically and demonstrably so false.
	I have a theory on why this is happening because it isn't just this one person who is an autodidact and does peculiar things like 32-hour podcasts on the Jonestown cult.
	This isn't one person acting alone.
	There seems to be this What Constantine Kissin out of the UK has deemed the wokeness on the right, this idea that now the right has to celebrate our victims instead of actually taking on wokeness per se.
	I'd like to unpack that.
	We'll keep you on for one more segment if you can.
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	Thank you.
	Have you heard that before?
	Yeah, I saw his 12 minute video on it.
	What do you think?
	I think also, I think there's a lot of truth to it.
	I think what happens is though, it's kind of like World War One after You know, the Great War didn't turn out as it's supposed to end all wars.
	So they go back in World War II and they say, well, we ended up helping the Soviets and therefore the whole war was flawed.
	And the reason we helped the Soviets was because of the Uniparty bi-coastal people.
	So we just kind of adjust the facts a little bit.
	And there's a trajectory from helping Stalin to the sellout and, you know, Afghanistan, Iraq, we shouldn't have been there, we shouldn't have been in World War II.
	So they use World War II, I think, for contemporary purposes, and they take a truth that we all agree on, that there is a uniparty, and that it does bad things, and they make it into an all-encompassing truth.
	And how much of it is just a reheating of, you know, a neo-buchananism that's used to veil antisemitism?
	Much of it.
	I think that's the problem.
	The thing that, and I think at a time right now when Jews are being attacked on the street, it's the height of irresponsibility.
	Good.
	All right, let's talk about that.
	That's perfect.
	You mentioned that about the Jewish vote.
	Have you got the tweet from Daryl I sent?
	Yes.
	Perfect.
	All right.
	I'll use that.
	I'll tee that up and then we'll go to the professor.
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	We're discussing the Tucker Carlson interview with this pseudo-historian Daryl Cooper.
	How much of this, we discussed this in the break, so how much of this is well described under what Constance Kissin says is those on the right looking for victimhood status and giving in to cynicism.
	They lied to us about Iraq, they lied to us about Covid, therefore they lied to us about World War II.
	Is this just the depths of cynicism and wokery?
	For conservatives?
	In some way it is, but they chart World War II as kind of the genesis of this because they feel that, you know, we helped Stalin win and then we fought for nothing and we tried to save the British Empire and communism and we got nothing out of it without any knowledge that whether we liked it or not we defeated the greatest industrial mass murdering project in history with the Holocaust and we've liberated all of Europe and it was a wonderful noble thing that the United
	States and its allies did
	but it has... you're absolutely right it has contemporary contemporary usefulness or utility in the promulgators of
	these things and and how about this take that I've been convinced of for
	at least a year now that this isn't novel, this isn't new, this isn't just a
	function of newly found cynicism
	This is a repackaging and a reheating of, you know, a neo-Buchananism.
	This is Pat Buchanan's, we shouldn't have been involved in the war.
	And also, really, it's a kind of faint, it's a dodge, it's a way to veil antisemitism.
	I look at this tweet from Daryl Cooper from his Martyr Maid Twitter account where he has a photograph of the Olympic Games with this transvestite celebration and you know parody of the Last Supper next to Hitler in Paris and he says This may be putting it too crudely for some, but the picture on the left of Hitler was infinitely preferable in virtually every way than the one on the right.
	Isn't this just a, as the Germans say, Salonfähig version of antisemitism?
	It's antisemitism fit for public consumption.
	Yeah, if it is even fit, because, I mean, he's taking a photograph of the architects of the Holocaust and who had just killed 120,000 French civilians and combatants, and they're in this triumphal visitation of the Eiffel Tower, and he's comparing them to a few kind of mentally suspect people who were, in relative terms, harmless compared to these mass murderers.
	And so, it's pretty incriminating, and I think what happens is that they look at our borders are open, and they say, why are we fighting in Ukraine, and therefore somebody's behind it all, and it's got to be the Jews.
	And that's exactly what they did in World War II.
	They made us go to war against a German country that was preferable to Stalin, and the Jews did it then, and they're doing it now.
	And in the context of October 7th, and this recrudescence of anti-Semitism, it's really kind of sick and sad.
	And dangerous.
	And it requires all of us, according to our station, to professionally and politely, but firmly, speak out against it at every occasion.
	I have done so, and I'm sure, like me, you have been attacked roundly by those who share the views of Tucker and Cooper.
	I have a dream.
	Tell me if it's a pipe dream, Professor, that people like this have no place In a conservative movement that believes in moral content guiding our politics, not just ideology, that these people really must be somehow excised from a patriotic Judeo-Christian fundament that is modern conservatism.
	Well, I think they have to be explained, too.
	I think there are elements of conservatism that are worried about globalization, the lack of borders, but you don't take that truth of shared worry and then you make it into an all-encompassing truth that distorts the historical record to advance other agendas that are not conservative, such as maybe anti-Semitism or historical revisionism or even admiration for A very lethal sort of fascism as embodied in Hitler.
	And when you do that, whether you knowingly do it and some do it, or you're inadvertently, or you're just naively, or whatever, it doesn't matter about the causation.
	You're destroying, in an election year, the chances of a conservative restoration under Trump.
	And it's very dangerous to To promulgate these views and then pass them off as conservative because it only feeds the ambitions of the left and the opportunities of the left.
	It has to be called out.
	It has to be called out by conservatives.
	It won't do any good for liberals to do it, but it has to be conservatives.
	The only way it gets fixed is if we conservatives do it.
	I want to salute you for what you've said in the last two weeks.
	Please follow the Professor at VictorHansen.com.
	If Tucker Carlson were in this chair, what would you say to him right now, Professor?
	Well, I've known him a long time.
	I like him.
	I've always liked Tucker.
	I think that he needs to use this very huge platform that he created through his own work and imagination and talent, but he's got to be very careful because it's a force multiplier of positions, and when he allows people like Daryl Cooper to come in there and be unfiltered or even, you know, not cross-examine or agree with him, he doesn't understand Maybe he doesn't.
	The huge influence he has.
	And it means that millions of people will listen to that without any knowledge of World War II.
	But they will see that impromptu tour on it, and they will take this guy seriously.
	And as I said earlier, just from that 10-second clip, he managed to be completely wrong or distorted on every single statement he said.
	Maybe the and and too.
	I don't know.
	But everything.
	And the whole interview As it pertained, World War II was completely factually wrong.
	There was no doubt.
	Everything about it was.
	And it was unfortunate.
	And there were elements of anti-Semitism, not elements, glaring themes of anti-Semitism, like that photograph you showed.
	Well, God bless you for telling the truth always.
	If you want the truth about World War II, the second World Wars is the book by Victor Davis Hanson.
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	I think since we first ever met that was perhaps the most important 15 minutes we've had and I'm very grateful to you.
	Thank you.
	I think so.
	I hope that Tucker comes to his senses.
	I think, I don't know, but I think I told, maybe I didn't tell you this, I've listened to some of his longer interviews when he talks for two or three hours and there's this theme where he clearly has this visceral hatred for America today and he's pining for some halcyon version of America in the 50s that never ever really existed and it's coloring everything he's saying about politics today.
	No, I know it.
	I used to have communications from his people.
	I've been on his Twitter show a couple times.
	They've been asking me to do things, but I haven't heard a word since I said on a podcast, I think it was to Megyn Kelly, I said, when he interviewed the mayor of Bethlehem, the Christian Arab Palestinian... Yes, the Hamas front man.
	Yes, and he claimed that Christians were being ethnically cleansed by Jews, when anybody who goes to Israel say it's the only refuge in the Middle East that allows Christians to live in peace.
	And that was a complete lie and distortion.
	It was just crazy.
	Anybody who goes to Bethlehem says, wow, they've kicked out all of the Christians and they're fleeing to Israel for the tolerance and freedom of the Jewish state.
	And he just, why would he do that?
	And there was no interviewer there.
	It was just Tucker and this guy.
	So strange.
	But Tucker, yeah, I don't know where it comes from, but I have a feeling that I don't.
	Got to jump.
	Thank you, Professor.
	God bless.
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	I was talking to Victor Davis Hanson in the break and I didn't want to stop.
	Wow, what a great man.
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	And it's so important.
	You know, I get these twinges now and again.
	Do I let you see behind the curtain?
	Alex, do I let them see behind the curtain of my thought processes?
	Do I do that?
	Yes.
	Open the kimono, Dr. G. Open the kimono.
	Relax, ladies.
	Calm down.
	It can be hard.
	When you have a platform.
	And look, I'm not Rush Limbaugh, okay?
	Sleep.
	This isn't, you know, but it's four million people on social media, three and a half million listeners, all the people who repurpose your stuff, retweet you, all my friends and allies.
	And then you see something and you know that's wrong.
	But it's somebody who is meant to be on our side and is big, really big.
	And I'm not afraid.
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	But everybody wants to be loved a little bit.
	Although I remember when I was maybe 38, 39 There's that moment in every adult's life when you have that Damascene moment, that revelation where you realize, I don't need anyone's approval except to please my wife, my parents in heaven, and my Lord and Creator.
	Everybody else Not so much.
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	All right, wow.
	Next up, Green Beret Jim Hanson.
	happened last night and what do we have to remember about what happened 23 years ago at 9am.
	Thanks for watching.
	you you
	Air Force enlisted senior enlisted man that he was outside when it occurred
	you said that he saw a helicopter circle the building he said that it appeared to be a US military helicopter and
	that it disappeared behind the building where the helicopter landing zone is excuse me
	you then saw a fireball go into the sky I'm attempting to make my way around to that side of the building in my car
	right now to see if I can get a better visual perspective on the scene on that side of the building but I can tell
	you that security has certainly clamped down there The U.S.
	Park Police and other federal law enforcement department has arrived in force on the scene.
	There's a Park Police helicopter overhead.
	Every car that arrives at the gate where I was located was being stopped by officers at gunpoint.
	Everyone is being forced out of their vehicles as they arrive at the Pentagon.
	It's a very tense situation, obviously, but initial reports from witnesses indicate that there was, in fact, a helicopter circling the building, contrary to what the AP reported, according to the witnesses I've spoken to anyway, and that this helicopter disappeared behind the building and that there was then an explosion.
	That's about all I have from here.
	Okay, let's do this, Chris.
	Why don't you continue reporting, and we'll pass along a couple of other things that we're picking up along the way.
	Twenty-three years ago today, our good friend, my Newsmax colleague Chris Plant, who was at the time the national security producer for CNN inside the Pentagon, calling from his cell phone, from his car, on the way to work in the Pentagon on that horrific day.
	We have to remember it, as we have been doing all day, despite all the breaking news, the fact that we're in an election campaign, we had a presidential debate yesterday, and I can't think of anyone better to discuss it than our good friend, former Green Beret, it is of course Jim Hansen in studio with us one-on-one.
	Jim, I don't want to say this kind of out loud because it makes me Feel bad and maybe even me look bad because that was my job for about two and a half decades, counter-terrorism.
	And this anniversary of the greatest terrorist attack in the modern age, it kind of snuck up on me and I think it snuck up on all of us.
	Are we in a danger of forgetting what happened that day?
	Without a doubt.
	I think that's the problem.
	The short attention span theater that we live in baffles us with so much BS that it's easy to miss important things unless it's a historic number, you know.
	And I think the dangerous thing right now is you look at all the brethren of Al Qaeda still operating.
	Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, ISIS.
	Al Qaeda is operating in Afghanistan again.
	You know, thanks, Biden and Harris.
	All of those things are extant right now, and we're kind of whistling past the graveyard.
	You know me.
	I'm not a kumbaya kind of guy.
	But for a moment, despite yesterday's debate and the fact that some of them there in New York today want to put my former boss in prison, or worse, There was something quite remarkable about having the current president, the vice president, President Trump and Rudy Giuliani all together there today.
	Was that something good?
	I think that was a moment of clarity, you know, among the leaders of our nation that say some things are more important than us.
	You know, where we play a role and we need to play that role for the rest of the people we represent.
	And I applaud them all for it.
	You know, I think the interesting thing was I heard a lot of cheers for Trump.
	I didn't hear cheers for Biden or Harris or anybody else involved with that.
	I think they know.
	Last year they avoided it.
	I mean, they didn't go to New York because I think they felt that they would not be welcome.
	They technically are not, but I think at some level, you know, the people understand that we have a Commander-in-Chief, kinda.
	We need a better one.
	But those people, all of them, I think at least for today, managed to act like adults.
	You wrote a book on getting based.
	You understand the left, you understand Information Operations.
	You're the chief editor of the Middle East Forum today, meforum.org.
	I've got to share with you what I did today.
	I was interviewed for quite a lengthy interview with a Middle Eastern news outlet, but by a British host, because they do that.
	They kind of steal, you know, the BBC people, pay them a lot of money.
	And this woman wouldn't drop the issue.
	We discussed the debate, but then she kept going on about the question of national security, wars in Europe, wars in the Middle East.
	And she did this again and again and again.
	She said, but why are you associating the lack of wars during the period of the Trump administration with President Trump?
	And it's like, this is a grown-up.
	And I kept saying, hang on a second.
	This isn't my opinion.
	This is empirical data.
	Obama, President, Crimea invaded.
	We come in.
	No wars for four years.
	We leave.
	Oh, Putin invades the rest of Ukraine.
	Jews slaughtered by the bushel in the Middle East.
	And she asked me again, but what has that got to do with President Trump?
	At that point, you think like...
	Are these people just zombies?
	They are purposely dense.
	Three words.
	Peace through strength.
	I mean, it's Reagan's thing.
	Trump adopted it because he projected strength.
	And you knew, you just knew something bad was going to happen if you stepped over the line.
	So they didn't step over the lines.
	They were not habitual line steppers.
	And I think that's an important difference.
	And the other thing that gets me so annoyed and even riled up with this is even on our side, people fall into this... Well, you know why they didn't do anything.
	It's because he's so unpredictable.
	He's a wild man.
	And I work for the guy, but it's the opposite.
	He's utterly predictable.
	You plan a chemical weapons launch out of a Syrian airbase and we brief him on it.
	He turns into a sheet of glass with 52 cruise missiles.
	You send 300 Russians to run around the Middle East, destabilizing the whole region, and you brief the President on it, and he says to, you know, Jim Mattis, kill them, kill them now, four hours later, Battle of Kashan, they turn into red mist.
	That's not random craziness, that's not helter-skelter Charles Manson, that's a guy who says, you mess around, I may not invade your country, But the hammers of hell will come down on you very quickly for a short amount of time.
	This whole, you know, unpredictable berserker thing, where does that come from?
	They fundamentally misunderstand how Trump operates.
	Trump's game is he walks in, kicks over the conference room table, Right.
	And then starts watching people's reactions to look for openings.
	He creates chaos to exploit it.
	It's the OODA loop concept.
	If you can get inside, you know, and get inside someone's OODA loop and act faster than they can react.
	Fancy terms.
	Observe, orient, decide, act.
	Okay.
	It's an old fighter pilot.
	Colonel Boyd.
	Exactly.
	And Trump uses that and he does it instinctively so people don't see it.
	He is a natural predator and his method for doing that is he freaks people out.
	He does something to cause some form of chaos.
	He creates a disturbance in the force.
	And then he exploits that when other people react poorly.
	It would be remiss of me if I didn't do this two weeks ago.
	I'm the one who broke the news because I was told that my former boss was in Arlington National Cemetery.
	The idea that Gold Star Fathers and Mothers request his presence, request the White House send somebody.
	They don't.
	The National Cemetery tries to stop him coming.
	Speaker Johnson has to intervene.
	And then, within 48 hours, not only the White House, but the Office of the U.S.
	Army Attacks President Trump for being with the parents on the anniversary of the death of our 13 war fighters.
	How does that happen Jim?
	We no longer have anyone in the government and executive agencies who is not co-opted by the left.
	They've had power and created the permanent bureaucracy to the point that those people see Trump as a threat to that and they're willing to undermine him even if it involves That was Kamala's line last night.
	I vow to fight for you.
	But I guess if you're a gold star mother or father, not so much.
	More if you're an illegal immigrant.
	retaining their power and their move to fundamentally transform this country.
	That was Kamala's line last night, I vow to fight for you, but I guess if you're a
	gold star mother or father, not so much. More if you're an illegal immigrant,
	she will fight to the death for them.
	MEforum.org, chief editor for the Middle East Forum.
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	Of course, it is the 23rd anniversary of September 11th, and according to Kamala Harris, that wasn't a big deal, at least not as much as, what is it, the MAGA shaman of January the 6th?
	No, she actually said that last night.
	Donald Trump left us the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War.
	And what we have done is clean up Donald Trump's mess.
	So Jim, worst attack on America.
	January 6th was worse.
	The worst attack on America since 600,000 people were killed.
	So I guess that's worse than Pearl Harbor and 9-11 and the first World Trade Center attack.
	Not big things.
	I don't understand how that made it through her lie creation matrix that they did wherever she did her debate prep, but I guess she knew that she wasn't going to be challenged on it, but she should have assumed he was going to come back, and he did.
	That's absurd.
	2,997 on September 11th, and you're just going to throw that out there?
	The only person killed on January 6th was an Air Force veteran, Trump supporter, who was murdered.
	I've got to give President Trump kudos.
	He didn't mention her name yesterday.
	Good.
	The nice thing about Kamala is she is shameless.
	And I think even with her allies helping and failing to check her, America watches.
	People speak English, some of the illegals don't, but everybody else is looking at that and watching what a garbage human she is, with no solutions and everything, and she says stuff like that, and they're like, they did what all of us did!
	Every sentient being who heard her say that, who's not a Democrat operative, went, Yeah, except for Matt Drudge.
	This is the cover of his website as we went to the show today.
	He called last night, incredibly, Trump's 9-11.
	Worst performance of his career.
	How stunning is it that we had a 90-minute debate And the moderators didn't mention that President Trump had been shot in the head by a Democrat donor.
	And they interrupted him when he mentioned it.
	I mean, they made sure that that was not—no, you will get no credit for surviving an assassination attempt and standing up and showing the country that you were not going to be beaten down or, you know, take this as something they get away with.
	I think the moderators, to the extent they can be called that, did the opposite of what the ones for CNN did.
	The CNN debate, Trump-Biden was designed to take Joe Biden out of the race, so the CNN people assisted with that.
	This time the goal was to support Kamala Harris and take Trump down a notch, and the ABC moderators did their job there.
	So I think you can give credit to the moderators, they did good jobs, they just didn't do the job they were supposed to do.
	I was listening to my friend Dennis Prager as I was driving in today, and he made this great point about it's not the job of a moderator to fact-check anything.
	If President Trump had said, the earth is flat, it's not the moderator's job to say, but no, it's round.
	It's their job to ask questions and to police the time.
	And people then make up their minds.
	That's why you have a debate in public, so the people can make up their minds, not the media.
	But that's not the media we have, nor the political system we have, and fortunately we'll get a chance to change that.
	It's up to us, 54 days to go.
	This was my take, I've discussed it.
	This was a tweet of mine that went viral last night.
	My original tweet from last night was, Kamala Harris did much better than expected.
	No word salads.
	But she lied for 90 minutes.
	President Trump did not perform as well as he should have because he allowed the moderators and Harris to get under his skin.
	And at the end of the day, this is my big take home and I'm curious if you concur.
	It didn't move the needle for either one because his... I was at a watch party with, you know,
	MAGA people in Northern Virginia and they just like, whenever he got a home run, the whole place,
	this brewery, you know, exploded. So it didn't make any difference to those who are locked in
	for President Trump. Likewise, I don't think Kamala won anybody in the middle because she
	sounded like a scold, like a school mom.
	She was unsympathetic and that grin staring at President Trump.
	These debates have a political impact if they appeal to the undecideds.
	What do you think?
	I agree with your analysis completely.
	Trump was in campaign speech mode, not in debate point mode.
	And okay, that's where he's happiest, and I understand it.
	Kamala exceeded expectations, which were below subterranean, and so she was on the ground level.
	And she had a script that she just prepared and read.
	And I think the, I mean, you've met my wife, you know her.
	She's the one who always reality checks all us political junkies.
	We did it in the back channel with Jane Curt.
	She said, you know, other than you political junkies, nobody else was paying attention and this didn't change anything.
	No.
	And she's right.
	Although, you know, what is it, Bongino says, uh, campaigns are snapshots and sound bites.
	You've got to give it to the President.
	He had some zingers.
	Like, I was thinking of sending you a MAGA hat because you've stolen all my policies.
	Those things can go viral.
	Yeah, and they're fun and they're reusable.
	Yes.
	So there's an element of that that this will continue.
	But the idea that, as you said, nobody who was undecided broke any direction except for those 10 people the Reuters talked to.
	They had 10 undecided voters watching the debate.
	Six of ten said after the debate they're voting for Trump.
	So obviously the normals who were watching did not buy Kamala's stuff.
	And you made a point.
	She seemed like that ex-girlfriend you don't like who's just giving you the side eye and all this stuff.
	And maybe that works with her wine mom friends and childless cat ladies.
	But she's losing men by the bushel.
	He said normals.
	I think normies is much worse.
	Normies, the normies.
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	Mr. Muir was supposed to be a moderator last night.
	I hope he got his check from the Kamala campaign, because he wasn't moderating.
	Here is an example.
	Play cut three.
	Play cut two, please.
	Nancy Pelosi was responsible.
	She didn't do her job.
	The question was about you as president, not about former Speaker Pelosi, but I do want Vice President Harris to respond here.
	I was at the Capitol on January 6th.
	I was the vice president-elect.
	I was also an acting senator.
	I was there.
	And on that day, the President of the United States incited a violent mob to attack our nation's Capitol.
	To desecrate our nation's capital.
	On that day, 140 law enforcement officers were injured.
	And some died.
	And understand, the former president has been indicted and impeached for exactly that reason.
	But this is not an isolated situation.
	Let's remember Charlottesville.
	Where there was a mob of people carrying tiki torches, spewing anti-semitic hate.
	And what did the president then at the time say?
	There were fine people on each side.
	Let's remember that when it came to the Proud Boys, a militia, the president said, the former president said, stand back and stand by.
	Oh dear, he said stand back and stand by.
	I mean, oh scary.
	The fact that Snopes has already debunked it a few months ago and she still uses it.
	Is that a sign of desperation or are they just living in their own little world?
	That's a sign of the comfort level they have that she will not be fact-checked and that they're willing to lie, cheat and steal to win this election.
	So I think it was comically bad because everyone else knows.
	And the rest of the stuff she's saying, you know, I mean, come on, we're going to talk about the Proud Boys.
	We're going to talk about how many people died.
	She's trying to imply on January 6th.
	No, none of that's true.
	And she was going to get away with it because, as you said, Muir was in on the game.
	You know, and the idea that we can trust.
	Republicans have been doing it as long as I can remember.
	You say it every time, too.
	Why do we do debates with these people?
	Why do we even allow them?
	Just refuse.
	I don't think the next time it's offered, don't do it.
	Well, the scuttlebutt this morning was, as President Trump was in New York before he went to Shanksville,
	is that he says he doesn't want to do another debate.
	The Kamala campaign signaled, yes, we're ready for it.
	I think that's a lie because I think they know it's never going to be better for her than her spewing her talking points and not being fact-checked while President Trump is fact-checked, you know, badly into the ground.
	As a result, I think this is it.
	We're not going to get another debate, Jim.
	No, I was smack-talked from them, taking advantage of it.
	They wanted to seem proud.
	What I think Trump should do is go, OK, let's do it.
	You want to do it?
	Let's do it.
	We'll do it live-streamed on X, and we're going to have Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly moderate.
	Make them say no.
	Yeah.
	You know, I mean, put him on the line.
	That's a great idea.
	Yeah, but I mean, give him, because that is less biased.
	Tucker and Megan would be more professional than those clowns from ABC ever could be.
	Yeah, although... And they'll still turn it down.
	Yeah, Tucker's not the right choice because even J.D.
	Vance had to distance himself from Tucker.
	He went a little crazy, but pick, alright, pick the big... Joe Rogan.
	Put Joe Rogan.
	Joe Rogan and Megan Kelly.
	I'm fine with that.
	I like that.
	Joe Rogan, Megan Kelly.
	I might have to send that idea to the campaign.
	Do you mind?
	I tweeted it already, so it's out there.
	You did?
	Yep.
	Tell them.
	Did you send that to me?
	Ah, probably not.
	Jim, he usually sends me all the good stuff.
	Well, if it's good enough, he sends it to me and Kurt Schlichter.
	We have this little text thread going for all the good stuff, but you've got to follow him at jimhansondc right now.
	So for everyone watching who remembers what January 6th was, I say, we don't have to go back.
	Let's not go back.
	We're not going back.
	It's time to turn the page.
	And if that was a bridge too far for you, well there is a place in our campaign for you.
	To stand for country.
	To stand for our democracy.
	To stand for rule of law.
	And to end the chaos.
	And to end the approach that is about attacking the foundations of our democracy because you don't like the outcome.
	And be clear on that point.
	Donald Trump, the candidate, has said in this election there will be a bloodbath if this and the outcome of this election is not to his liking.
	Let's turn the page on this.
	Let's not go back.
	Let's chart a course for the future and not go backwards to the past.
	You don't like the political outcome?
	Well, yes, maybe she should familiarize herself with the political targeting of individuals like my former colleagues Stephen Bannon and Peter Navarro and the fact that the person she's quote-unquote debating with the support of the two moderators is facing over seven centuries in prison.
	That's the real threat to democracy.
	Jim, I railed about this this morning and then earlier on the show today.
	We don't rehearse this stuff.
	I haven't cleared any questions with you, so maybe you're on the wrong side of this issue, but I doubt it because you live in the real world.
	They've done this with Biden.
	They've done this with Obama.
	I can't stand it.
	I believe these people work for the Russians or the Democrats, this thing.
	Did you see her earrings?
	Those were, those were earbuds.
	She was getting instructions last night.
	Here's my tweet.
	Here was my response because I get this stuff just drives me nuts, Jim.
	Anyone who posts about Kamala's earpiece earrings is either a cretin or doesn't get politics or is a clickbait whore.
	My point is, even if it were real, It doesn't matter.
	What if she had like headphones on for an hour and a half?
	It doesn't matter.
	That's irrelevant to the election.
	If you're not out helping President Trump knocking on doors, I don't want to hear about this.
	And at the bottom I said, you want to do something?
	Go to TrumpForce47.com and actually volunteer to actually help the president.
	So your take on this stuff that always pops up, Lara Loomer and all these people.
	You are wearing an earpiece right now and your producers talk to you.
	It's almost... I've worn it when I guest host for you.
	You wear it on TV.
	As soon as somebody... If you're talking and some... I tell my guys, look, if you want to tell me something and I screwed up live on air, you've got to say it quietly because you can't talk and listen at the same time.
	And the idea that somebody was coaching her in her ear as she's speaking, it's just stupid!
	Especially a super smart person might be able to pull it off.
	Kamala Harris is not.
	So there's no chance she was doing that.
	Nah, I mean, be smart.
	What is the motivation?
	Makes us look stupid.
	That's what I think.
	Yeah, it makes us look dumb.
	Are these people doing it on purpose?
	Are these like provocateurs or just idiots?
	It always feels like it.
	I think there's an element of some people want to have an excuse rather than to face reality.
	You know how I like him?
	But Tim Pool actually retweeted my tweet.
	Yeah?
	And he actually said the whole earpiece thing is cope.
	Because Trump didn't do well.
	And I think that's fair.
	That's fair.
	You want a reason.
	Right.
	You want an excuse.
	Yep.
	All right.
	So, you've got 54 days left.
	I'm going to tell everybody who it was.
	Rich Mineta had this amazing idea.
	President Trump, the rallies are fine, the rallies are fun, but they're for us, they don't bring new votes.
	Every time he does a rally, which he does just all the time, which is incredible, before he goes to the rally, he should go to a grocery store near to the rally and talk to the women who can't afford the groceries on camera.
	I mean, you know Info Ops, I think that's bloody genius.
	What would you like to see for the next 54 days?
	Like you said, the rallies are preaching to the faithful.
	Everybody who's at a rally is already going to vote for him, and he doesn't need the acclaim, you know.
	He likes it, but he doesn't need it.
	Anything he does like that, you know what I think is the best thing he's done this campaign is the podcast shows.
	And you said, that's Barron.
	Barron told him to.
	Those are new voters.
	Those are people who don't know.
	A lot of them, you know, they're the 18 to 25.
	Huge, huge subscriber base.
	The only one who's a I won't call you a coward, Joe Rogan, but the fact that you have said you refuse to have him on your show and your platform lunatics like Alex Jones, isn't it about time that Joe Rogan committed himself to free speech, Jim?
	We just offered him a chance to moderate a debate.
	I think he needs to go ahead and accept whichever presidential candidates will come on his show.
	I mean, do it.
	He would get massive ratings.
	It would be good.
	He's a great questioner.
	He's a bit of a kook.
	He wouldn't be a hack.
	And he might ask President Trump about Bigfoot.
	I know he'd ask him about the UFOs.
	Don't you know Rogan would ask him about declassifying the UFOs?
	I want to hear Trump's response to that.
	That was the thing about the podcast he's done.
	They were so humanizing.
	Because he was having a conversation with someone, he was listening to them, he responded to their emotions.
	It was a conversation.
	Yeah, it was a conversation and he came across so much better than he does.
	Granted, the rallies are what they are, but that was a kitchen table conversation, which is like you said, the grocery store is another place to do it.
	Those one-on-ones are going to be more humanizing than anything he can do in a speech.
	And biggest issue for you in the last 54 days, is it immigration or the economy?
	What do you think is going to tip the balance?
	It's still going to be economy.
	I mean, it trumps everything, every election.
	And this time it's working in his favor.
	He could say, he should go back to the, do you remember the good old days?
	You know, that's all you got to do.
	Bring back the good old days.
	Yeah, we want to go back.
	We don't want to go forward with you because we're going downhill.
	Thelma and Louise off a cliff, Kamala.
	You know, that's not good for anybody.
	We want to go back to when we had money.
	My 4-OK was, hey, I could buy gas.
	My 4-OK looked good.
	Groceries were affordable.
	All that.
	Yeah, Alina Hubbard made it even easier when she was on the show last time.
	She said, you don't even have to use as many words as Reagan did.
	Are you better off than you were four years ago?
	Just ask your friends, your neighbors, your colleagues.
	How you doing?
	It's that question.
	How you doing?
	Because if they're not doing well, you may want to ask a second question.
	Do you wonder why you're not doing well?
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	Jim, What do you say to those who are praetorates, on our side, believed in President Trump, and whether it's, you know, 2020 or the court cases and everything else, they say, oh, it's just, it's just rigged.
	It's not worth it.
	I'm not voting.
	What do you say to them?
	Are you going to sit on the sidelines and let Kamala win, let them pack the Supreme Court, let them decide that the First Amendment doesn't apply to hate speech, which is speech they hate, let them start grabbing guns, ban assault, ban anything semi-automatic.
	You can have a revolver or a musket.
	And then go ahead and start putting people in internment camps.
	You really gonna risk that?
	Because the first two things they would do, there's no question they'll pack the Supreme Court, and then they will begin erasing the Bill of Rights.
	I am not willing to risk that.
	I will vote against Kamala.
	In this case, I'm voting for Trump because I got things I want him to do.
	And that's why I haven't voted for anybody as much as I voted against.
	So I like the first time, I wasn't that on board with Trump in 2016.
	You know, but I voted against the Democrats and then I grew to love what he was doing.
	Now, I'm voting for him to dismantle the deep state, shut down the permanent bureaucracy, and save the republic.
	It's very simple.
	They've already told us what they're going to do.
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	It's not Jim.
	If they only do half of what they have said, naturalizing illegal immigrants, the filibuster, packing the Supreme Court, lowering the voting age to 16, if they do just half of those things, there is no republic left.
	So it's a wonderful Opportunity to be in, as Jim says, one of these rare occasions where you're not voting against somebody, you're actually voting for someone to bring back what we had for four years.
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