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you So in your discussions of the nuclear freeze proposals, I urge you to beware the temptation of pride, the temptation of blithely declaring yourselves above it all, and label both sides equally at fault, to ignore the facts of history and the aggressive impulses of an evil empire, to simply call the arms race a giant misunderstanding, and thereby remove yourself from the struggle between right and wrong, and good and evil.
A speech that changed history, calling out in front of an audience of evangelical Americans the Soviet Union that wished to destroy us, the evil empire.
Then he would give his speech at the Brandenburg Gate.
To Gorbachev, demanding that he tear down this wall.
And less than 18 months later, the people, the captive peoples on the other side of that wall did exactly that.
Finally, it's taken long enough for us to pay tribute to one of the greatest presidents the world has known.
With a movie about his life.
It's simply called Reagan, and we are honored to have one of the stars with us, an absolute legend in Hollywood, who at the same time, and this is an unusual characteristic, is also one of our greatest patriots.
We're delighted to have with us, no monologue from me, we're opening the show with the one and only Jon Voight.
Well, that's quite an introduction.
I'm very humble in the presence of that one.
But anyway, it's wonderful to be with you again, Sebastian.
You are one of the unusual voices and one of the greatest of patriots at this time.
And we certainly need you and all of the other heroes that are out there trying to re-establish our country's greatness.
Not at all, that's so kind.
I'm a legal immigrant to the United States and I just realized that this is the greatest nation on God's green earth and you have been doing a legendary work standing up for the principles of the founding.
We'll talk a little bit about that in the next segment, but we're delighted to have you here to celebrate the movie which is out now, Reagan.movie.
Theaters across America.
The story of a man who Like my former boss, President Trump started out as a Democrat and then understood the threat of communism and became the greatest anti-communist in modern history.
This was a troubled film thanks to COVID and the actor strike delayed, but the timing of the release just two months before the election could not be better.
Tell us a little bit about your role as Victor in this movie and the experience of working on such a historic story.
Well, yes, it is a historic story, and the way you introduced it was proper.
You know, we've needed a portrait of this great fellow.
And his fight against communism serves as a very good example of what we have to come to again in the history of this country.
And this is hopefully the final battle, and hopefully we'll win it.
The character I play in the movie is a KGB spy who was given the assignment of watching out for potential dangers from personalities across the globe and especially America.
And they see this young actor coming forth and speaking out quite clearly against the Soviet system.
And then he gets into politics a little bit, so he becomes someone that they want to keep track of.
And I looked for the various examples of people who have been spies in the Soviet Union, and we had a dissident here named Yuri Bezmenov, who was an extraordinary fellow, who was a KGB spy.
saw what he was participating in was really something he couldn't stomach any longer,
and he left. And then he wound his way to the United States and then took the responsibility,
probably felt that he needed to express the dangers to this country that he fell in love
with, and he exposed it by talking about the system whereby they were going to attack and
turn over America to a communist regime. And in that, I learned an awful lot, an awful
lot about what's going on and the things that we're seeing daily in our concerns about our
country right now. So it gave me a good education. And all the things that we see, that I see
in Hollywood and I see all across the country, the, let's say, dumbing down or let's say
the programming that people have been getting in their movies, in their daily life, in their
Daily television experience in their schools, especially Has all this has all been preparation to take down this country So we don't teach, you know, the greatness of our country and we don't teach the founding fathers.
We don't teach D-Day We don't teach many many things to our kids.
So obviously they grow up schooled in An affection for socialism, which is a bridge to communism.
And that's why we're having the difficulties we're having right now.
And it's come to a head with this election.
So it was a great journey that I went on making this film.
And I went to the Soviet Union The very last breath of the Soviet Union in 1991 to make a film.
The first time they had allowed people in to film from the United States.
And I saw how the misery of the people that were under the yoke of communism.
And it was a terrible thing to watch the despair of these people.
And I said to this person who was my My guide at that time, I said, you know, this is going to change here.
And she said to me, no, it'll never change, John.
I mean, they had no hope whatsoever, but things are changing there.
But we are now burdened with it, with the seeds that they brought to us from the 50s on.
Well, we'll talk about where we are today politically, but in the last minute we have with you in this segment, Mr. Voight, do you think finally this movie could be the beginning of the setting the record straight about Ronald Reagan?
Because there is still this conventional wisdom, oh he didn't know what he was doing, he was a cowboy, he was a dullard.
Is this the beginning of setting the record straight?
Well, maybe it is.
It's a very good film.
It's a love story of Nancy and Ronald Reagan.
It has many aspects, but it does set the record straight.
I, of course, I think that people even across the world view Ronald Reagan as an extraordinary figure in history and on the positive side.
And he was a graceful, very clear-headed, very strong man who brought down the Soviet Union.
Indeed, it wasn't Gorbachev.
It was Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, and blessed Saint John Paul II.
That triumvirate that liberated hundreds of millions of people on the wrong side of the Iron Curtain, some of whom I was related to.
We're talking to Academy Award-winning legendary actor John Voight, one of the stars of the new movie Reagan, Reagan.movie.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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Oklahoma, and they just, yeah, and it accommodated everything.
It had the small town thing that he grew up in, that surrounding, and very Americana, and then we had a huge building there that resembled the scenes in the In the Soviet, in Moscow, and you know, all of that.
So, we had everything there in Oklahoma.
I was just looking at the footage.
And of course, great people, great people to support it.
It was fun.
I looked at the footage where they recreated the Brandenburg Gate speech, and it's perfect.
The background, the setting, I mean, it's exactly as it was.
Right, exactly right.
Well, you know, we have all of this technology today where we can do quite a lot of things.
But you have to be very clever.
We have a wonderful director, Sean McNamara.
And the use of all of this technology was able to recreate quite a lot of things.
And I had to play a character that was somewhat older than me.
And about 35 years younger than me as well.
Two characters, myself younger.
And that technology allowed for us to improve that.
Although the makeup was terrific.
I'm so impressed with Quaid's portrayal as well.
The voice acting and everything else.
It was troubled though, right?
Because of COVID and the actor's strike.
It should have come out a little bit earlier.
Yes, it was.
It was supposed to come out probably a year and a half earlier.
Wow.
But with all of that that interfered, but it seems like it was meant to be that it come out a little later because it certainly is, you know, it makes a lot of sense right now with all the concerns that we have and with what we're looking at and toward this new election to take a look at one of our great presidents and see what the office should be.
I'm so glad you mentioned Yuri Bezmenov.
His interviews are seminal.
Yes.
Extraordinary.
And it's interesting because in 1958 there was a FBI agent named Sklauson who came out with a book, The Naked Communist, and he listed in that book all of the menu of the KGB for taking down the United States.
And it was things like, you know, take God out of the schools, take over the universities, take over the press, create Yeah.
between people based on sex, on age, on race, and all these techniques and the
propaganda that they were to put into the universities, which is the
reason why we have so many people who have been totally propagandized.
And they know not where, you know, they know not anything about the founding of this country or the great things... Or why America is the best nation.
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Yes, and I have the picture as well.
He has captivated audiences for more than half a century.
And half a century starring in dozens of Hollywood blockbusters, including Midnight
Cowboy, Coming Home, Mission Impossible, and National Treasure.
And another one, I think it's, frankly, the greatest boxing movie of all time, The Champ.
And that was some great movie.
Everyone was crying at that movie.
I tried not to, John, but...
John captures the imagination of the audiences and dominates almost every single scene he's in.
He's a special person.
Very special person, indeed, and we're honored to have him with us.
That was the ceremony for the National Medal of Awards given to the Oscar winner, President Trump.
Always, when I've seen him talk about you, we were at Mar-a-Lago together recently, he mentions his favorite movie of yours.
Oh, that's great.
That's a great thing, to see that picture of you and I. And again there at Mar-a-Lago, that private party, President Trump mentioned the champ.
I'm just going to say something before we get back to the issue of saving the nation and the new movie Reagan, which is part of that.
I don't hang around a lot with Hollywood stars, but I have to say, I couldn't believe you were at that party.
Because I saw you standing there for hours around the pool with no entourage, engaging with anyone who came up to you, taking selfies with them.
That's not what I expected, Mr. Voight.
Well, first of all, I felt at home because I was with people who were like-minded and people who I admired, yourself included.
So I felt very honored to be there.
And I also realized that I came at a certain time The president had been in New York in some kind of early morning thing with the trial that he was dealing with.
Then he flew across the country and he made a speech in Georgia.
Yeah.
And then he did something else.
And then we were waiting for him there at this event, which was about Truth Social and all of the people involved in that.
Great people, you know, like Devin and all of the folks there.
It went on and on, and he was flying in from somewhere.
And so I felt it was actually, we had some fun.
We took some pictures.
We had a few laughs and entertained ourselves.
And I certainly was really enjoying myself.
And I met you.
This was a big deal for me.
And then he shows up at 11 o'clock and gives an hour and a half speech.
With no notes.
Unlike Kamala Harris, no notes, Mr. Voight.
Yes, he's quite amazing.
Well, you know, you and I know, and you know him very intimately in the workspace, you know, the real stuff.
And we admire him.
We are in awe of this energy, the energy he has, and his instincts, and his love for country.
So it's an honor to be near He has, and I say this as a child of those who escaped communism.
My father was liberated from a political prison.
He's called the current challenger, Kamala, a communist.
And I never thought I would hear that being used.
For American politics.
But given what we've witnessed in the last three and a half years, your mention of Yuri Bezmenov, this is the threat we face, is it not?
That's what we're dealing with here.
You know, both of these people, the presidential nomination from the Democrats and the Vice President, they both have real deep connections to communism.
So, you know, we're dealing with that.
This is from that line, the line of the Soviet Union and their plan to take down America.
I have met some from your industry, Mr. Voight, who share our views, but only behind closed doors, and who aren't prepared to say anything publicly.
Is Hollywood redeemable, or does it have to be rebuilt from the outside by people who love this country and don't wish to denigrate it and propagandize with their products?
Well, I think people are slowly learning.
Propaganda works.
It's a scientific, you know, exploration to use it as a technique to take down this country.
And they've gotten awfully good at it with their experiences with other countries.
So when they came to us, they were fully informed of how to work it out.
And people who pay attention to the mainstream news, let's say, And people in Hollywood who see the trend toward the denigration of the themes in movies and yearn for the days when the movies had something to say and were, you know, were moral and were uplifting.
I think people can make some comparisons and figure out some of it now, but just me talking about The fact that this menu was in our records, in the congressional records, since 1963, and no one paid too much attention to it, or not serious attention to it, and people were able to send their kids to school, and one thing after another happens, they take
Pledge of Allegiance away to take our father away.
They take the the The teaching of the Revolutionary Times and the Founding Fathers and the Constitution and all of that, they take that away and fill it with all negativities, all the negativity that they've been ingesting about our country.
Well, that's why we're here as we stand.
But I think things are starting to, people are starting to get some idea of it, especially with a person like Kamala Harris, who has really When you look at her record, she exposes her inabilities, let's say.
I'm trying to be as careful as I can not to be just to say something out of line that will come back at me, but But she's obviously incompetent.
You're being very diplomatic, and we will be demonstrating her lack of capability.
Yes, her record is there.
Her record speaks for itself.
In a few days, they try to put a little makeup on her and change her portrait, but it's impossible to do that, really, I think.
We will be demonstrating all of her incompetence with the various cuts of the interview.
It wasn't a real interview, it was a puff piece that occurred yesterday on CNN with her babysitter and her cue cards on the table.
In the meantime, we will thank you for being so gracious, for giving so much of your time.
Academy Award-winning actor Jon Voight.
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Also, his latest performance is the Reagan movie.
That's also ReaganMovie, one word, on Twitter.
And you can check out where to see it.
It's out now at Reagan.Movie.
God bless you, Jon Voight.
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That's my whole name, one word, sebastiangawker.substack.com Your role as Jim Phelps, that was that was such a shock
moment when you became the baddie.
Yeah, can you imagine that?
They presented me with that script.
What was your reaction when Jim Phelps was the baddie in the script?
What did you say?
Yeah, well, it was my heart.
It broke me because I was a fan of the... Of course!
Yeah, we all are.
And it was so iconic that Jim felt, you know.
So, but I knew it was... Tom Cruise is very clever and I think that you doing it in that way made the The film is very extraordinary, very powerful.
It's a fabulous twist.
I can always see that moment where you're looking down at your hands with the fake blood on your hands as you drop off the bridge.
I mean, that just gets fried into your brain, that imagery.
Yeah.
Well, listen, you have this wonderful You have a tremendous memory.
You must have a photographic memory.
I'm a big film buff.
Just a big film buff.
And you're a tremendous film buff.
So you're carrying so much with you of the history of the film world and have great taste in it.
And you present it in such a way, the deliciousness of the moments in film that we all treasure in our lives.
You know, the moment when Dustin Hoffman hits the cab and says, you know, I'm walking here and all of the all of those moments.
Yes.
So phenomenal.
And you seem to carry all of them with you.
No, just wait.
If you ever come to my studio here, you will see a corridor that has about 40 movie posters.
I arrived here.
It was a gray wall.
And I said, we're changing that.
We're having all of my favorite movies.
But I hope we get to meet again, either in California or back in the swamp or in Mar-a-Lago.
It's been an absolute honor.
Me as well.
Me as well.
God bless.
Thanks very much, Sebastian.
God bless.
Thank you, Mr. Boyd.
Good.
That's good.
Thank you.
Thank you for watching.
If you have any questions, please post them in the comments.
Thank you for watching.
You You
The only good thing that she's... It's flip-flopping.
She's the greatest flip-flopper.
Things that she never even thought of.
She probably goes back to her room and gets sick to her stomach when she says what she has to say.
Because she's a Marxist, she's a fascist, and she never believed.
I mean, now she's saying, oh, we want to build a strong border.
Where has she been for three and a half years?
As we took in 20 million people, many of them horrible criminals.
There you go.
What were we talking about with Jon Voight?
She's a commie!
And that was President Trump yesterday.
I'm just gonna geek out there.
How often do you get...
Without any prior planning, I called up John Foy about an hour ago and said, uh, can we get you on the show to talk about your new movie?
And he said, uh, yeah, I think we could do that.
And then we dial in to check the connection early.
And Jeff says, well, should we just open the show with Mr. Foy?
Yeah, let's do it!
Let's open the show with him.
Who needs a monologue?
You don't want to hear me.
You want to hear him.
And then what did Jeff say?
I said to Jeff, how often do you get to interview a Hollywood legend?
And then what did you say, Mr. G?
I said how many Hollywood stars did you actually want to interview?
How many would you actually want to talk to?
That is a bloody short list.
Who else?
Who else would we like to talk to?
Denzel Washington.
Definitely.
Alex.
Who else would we like to have on the show?
Let's make a little short list of people who are famous but we'd actually like to talk to.
Samwise Gamgee, so we can call him out on that terrible clip yesterday.
So we can call him out for being a twit about Kamala being, you know, Gandalf.
Superb.
Eric, what's your druthers?
Who would you like to have?
Give me one or two.
These days, considering he seems to be the last great movie star who actually loves his audiences, Tom Cruise.
Yeah, he's not a conservative, but yeah, I was going to think... Tom Cruise, because he doesn't give a crap about, you know, the Chinese and the censors.
So we've got Denzel, we've got Tom Cruise.
Hey, what about Guy?
Who would you like to have on?
Yes, sir.
I prefer to talk to... I mean, if you'll be kind enough to interview a filmmaker.
One of my... As long as you don't say Tarantino.
No, sir.
One of my favorite filmmakers is Riley Scott.
Oh my gosh!
I would give my left Testicle to interview Ridley Scott.
Ridley Scott, absolutely superb.
Okay, we can have actors and directors and then... Oh, I dread this.
Mr. G, who would you like us to interview?
Uh, I can't believe Guy skipped over Keanu Reeves.
He saw John Wick in the theater six times.
Oh my gosh, Keanu Reeves!
Guy, what is wrong with you?
You worship at the altar of Keanu Reeves.
Okay, that's indefinite.
Okay.
Now I got one.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
That's super important.
I'm going to add that to the list of the movies we're going to review because I'm going to start a list of actors or directors we want to get on the show.
So I think Keanu is actually doable because I have connections to him.
So Keanu Reeves, Ridders maybe, Then we put Denzel.
Denzel would be such a coo.
Alex, give me a real one.
Not a snowflake to have fun with.
Oh man.
Give me a minute.
I'll get back to you on that.
Take a minute and then let's go to Mr. G.
I think Sylvester Stallone leans to that side, too.
Sly!
I've had dinner with Sly, so that's doable.
We might be able to get Sly on.
Alright, Alex is furiously going to IMDB trying to think of a name of an actor right now.
He's actually on IMDB as we speak.
We have the drones watching him in the meantime.
He'll text me when he's ready.
Let's talk about the... I only caught bits of it, Jeff, and of course I'm going to think it was garbage, but how bad was Kamala's interview?
No, it was horrible.
No, honestly, it was so bad.
Just think about the way she doesn't even look in the eye.
I mean, 50% of the time she's looking down at her nose.
She's terrible.
And away from the person interviewing her.
And then the physical setup.
I mean, she's at the back on this little kid- it looks like she's at the kiddie table, you know, Pizza Hut, and then Walls is close to the camera so he looks like seven foot tall.
Were anybody on the left saying it was bad, Jeff?
A couple, but not really.
But it was comparable, just the optics.
You know, sometimes there's a story and it's some random person, was a witness or something, their mother, someone that's never done TV before, and they're awkward in media because they should be?
That's what it was comparable to.
How did she get to be a senator, Jeff?
looking, her eyes are closed 10% of the time because she's trying to think of what to say next.
It was horrible and I was actually before this mildly concerned about the debate and I have no concerns anymore.
How did she get to be a senator, Jeff?
Um, she ran in California.
Okay. How did she get to be vice president?
Oh, Clyburn, right?
I think it was more Biden boxed himself into a hole.
He was asked a question, would you appoint a female?
And he said yes.
I don't think he was prepared to say that.
But wasn't it that deal with Clyburn?
I'll get you the black vote if we get a woman, female, who's black, blah, blah, blah.
So yeah.
So he picked an Indian.
Oh, that's going to sting.
It's going to leave a mark.
All right.
Have you checked IMDB?
Alex, who's your choice?
Who do we add to the list?
Director, actor, or not Snowflake?
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They could be superstars.
Glenn is rather cool.
I'm going to go with Keanu Reeves.
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♪ Chat is going off on suggestions as well.
Oh, I bet my aunt just texted me as well.
Clint Eastwood, Dennis Quaid.
Oh, how could we not forget the blooming Clint?
Mel Gibson.
The Gibson.
Hang on.
Gibson.
The whole, they're going off.
Oh, man.
Clint.
Good.
Mel Gibson, Dennis Quaid, Jim Caviezel.
Caviezel.
A couple people said Bruce Willis, unfortunately.
I don't think that's possible anymore.
Schwarzenegger.
I mean, yeah.
Um, Harrison Ford, yes.
Oh, Harry's such a dick.
Probably, but he's an icon.
Have you ever seen an interview with him?
He does come across as... He is so stinking boring.
He is the most boring person in the world.
These days he just seems like a tired old man who just doesn't want to do this anymore.
No, but he was like that 30 years ago.
His interviews were like... He doesn't care.
Is Hulk Hogan considered an actor?
No.
Well, hang on, he was in Predator, right?
And wrestling is basically acting.
Is wrestling fake?
Of course it is.
Wait, hold on, what?
Should we get him on?
Should we get Hulk Hogan on?
That would be amazing.
That would be a good idea.
Let's do that.
I'll get his number.
Also, from the chat just now, Russell Crowe.
Russell!
You're missing Clint Eastwood, too.
We put it in, he's the first one.
I saw The Critical Drinker interviewed Russell Crowe a while ago.
He did.
It was a crappy interview, though.
It was like fanboy.
Should we try Sean Astin?
Say we're doing a White Dudes for... That's what Alex said.
Yeah, so White Dudes for Camelot Hour.
Coming with nine.
Hobbits for Kamala.
And then I'll do PhD, then we'll go to Kool.
I just need titles, by the way, for Friedman and for Mr. Voigt.
boy yes too good the communists are inside the wire
Bye.
And then... The only solution for Israel.
Yep.
Coming in with nine.
So what are they doing here in that video from Aurora?
Was it a shakedown or what?
Apparently, Fox was just reporting on it today, apparently they've taken over the building and now they're collecting rents from the tenants.
So, basically complete.
And apparently other buildings have been taken as well, but that hasn't been caught on camera yet.
That's Aurora, that's a suburb city.
It's a suburb of death.
And he was very clear that he was gonna support me.
So when he called to tell you, he said, I'm pulling out of the race and I'm gonna support you.
Well, my first thought was not about me, to be honest with you.
My first thought was about him.
To be honest, I think history is going to show a number of things about Joe Biden's presidency.
I think history is going to show that in so many ways it was transformative.
Yeah, as in transforming our nation into a crap hole, that kind of transformative.
We were listening to that live with my wife in the car with Katie and when she said, well, my first thoughts were for him, not me.
Katie said, really?
Oh, get me a bucket.
I mean, seriously, what a pathetic, fake interview.
So much more to discuss, but The call board has lit up with our question of actors or directors to interview and and so have our comments and of course we've got to get Clint Eastwood, Mel Gibson, Russell Crowe, Hulk Hogan.
Mr. G is that an actor?
Close enough.
Are you saying wrestling isn't real?
Yeah, and he was in a couple of movies.
I guess you'd call him that.
I think we can get his number.
I think we can get Hulk Hogan's number.
That might be a great idea.
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All right, Alex.
I thought you liked movies.
Give me one name.
Can I say Mel Gibson?
No!
I knew you were gonna do that!
I knew you were gonna cheat and take a name we already have on the list.
All right, back to the drawing board.
I will give- Christian Bale.
Christian Bale.
No, he's a dick.
Okay, how about film directors?
Yeah, okay.
Christopher Nolan.
Yes!
Ooh, good one.
Nice.
Nice.
Have you not heard Christopher Bale, uh, Christian Bale ranting to his mother and swearing at his mother?
I have not heard that.
Oh.
He phoned his dear mother up and effing and blinded at her.
It was disgusting.
He did the same thing on set during COVID.
The guy has, what is it, American Psycho?
That was typecast, okay?
American Psycho was Christian Bale in real life.
All right, let's check out some more names.
James Louisville, who do you want us to interview?
Well, on the film side, Kevin Costner for sure.
Oh my God!
I just watched an interview with that guy.
He, I think he's clearly a conservative, but Kevin Costner is an educated, smart guy.
Yes, he is and he's very cool.
I met him in person here in Louisville during the Derby time.
You did?
But on TV... How was he in person?
Oh, he was with a wife or a wife-to-be.
Very nice.
Very, I mean, that's a guy you can sit down and have a beer and a hot dog with and watch a ballgame.
Love it.
Great, great suggestion.
What else did you want to say?
On the film, or I mean on TV, I would say David, I think it's Barans, the Bones star, and he starred on Seal.
And of course, Mark Harmon.
Isn't he a lib though?
The guy from Bones?
You know who's a fan of mine?
I don't know.
Do I burn him now?
Okay, I'm not gonna burn him.
One of the Wahlbergs DM'd me on Twitter and he's a fan.
I will not release, but Mr. Wahlberg, if you want to come on the show, just DM me again.
You know where to find me.
So, the Wahlbergs are pretty cool.
Alright, thank you James!
Great idea, Kevin Costner.
Let's go to the long grass!
Ray Livermore.
I didn't call with a name, but I feel obligated to give one.
I have an idea for the show.
I called with an idea for the show.
Go ahead.
But my name is a Second Amendment advocate.
And a very much MAGA guy, Kurt Russell.
Oh my gosh!
Has he come out of the closet as a conservative or what?
Okay, added to the list.
Although I have to say, two friends of mine, who I love dearly, who have been guests on my show many times, they said, you've got to see this movie of his from a few years ago, Bone Tomahawk.
It was awful.
I mean, it was just violence upon violence.
I'm not a big Western guy, but seeing a guy get cut in half, it's just not entertainment for me.
Have you seen it, Ray?
He was torn in half, literally torn in half.
I didn't want to get into live radio, into the details, but it was not exactly my idea of fun with popcorn.
No, no, indeed.
You had a Second Amendment idea.
Yes, well as a senior caller at large, a self-promoted ombudsman, I feel I have the rank to make the case.
You are a senior caller without portfolio, how's that?
Without portfolio, at large.
I'm just roaming around and a self-promoted ombudsman.
That means I can criticize the show without suffering.
You had a caller call in last week and before he gave his topic, he talked about his His identifying calibers.
And I think that's a great idea.
They like to use he, she, she, shim by the seashore, whatever it is, we can identify ourselves by our calibers.
And I'll start with mine.
The Stephen Arms 1887 22 long rifle.
The 223 Remington introduced in 1957.
The 308 Winchester introduced in 1952.
The 223 Remington introduced in 1957, the 308 Winchester introduced in 1952, and of
course the great John Moses Browning 45 ACP.
Those are my identifying calibers, Dr. G.
Otherwise, they're known as your pronouns, right?
Those are my adverbs.
Those are your preferred calibers and pronouns.
This is funny you mention that.
I don't know if you've been tracking what I've been watching on YouTube, but I thought I knew a lot about guns, and especially my favorite caliber, the 10mm.
And on my feed, up popped this like 30-40 minute video on the history of the 10mm, which as far as I'm concerned is the greatest caliber known to man and the best one for a personal carry.
And it was stunning.
It's from this, we've got to get him on the show, The Lucky Gunner on YouTube.
Why 10mm auto was a total disaster for the FBI, but my gosh did they do some homework there.
All right, I love it.
My pronouns are 10mm and .308, my two favorite calibers, and we can sneak in there at the weekends a little bit of .300 blackout.
What do you think of that, Ray?
I love it.
I love it.
And there's many more to choose from, everybody.
Pick your favorite caliber, identify yourself, and come on board.
Such a smorgasbord of calibers from the .22 long rifle up to the .50 cal and beyond.
Nice call.
Stay on the line.
If he hasn't got one already, let's give him the butler hat.
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Is it lit?
It's still going and I'll be ready to take more names.
A few who have been on the show already.
Kevin Sorbo and Lawrence Fox.
Yep.
James Woods.
Kelsey Grammer.
Oh my gosh, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
James Woods is a great choice.
Oh yeah.
Kelsey Grammer.
Woods.
Yep.
Tim Allen.
Ooh, Tim Allen.
Yeah.
A little further down, Gary Sinise.
Gary Sinise.
Sinise, sorry.
Sinise, yes.
Clive Owen, interesting suggestion.
Greatest James Bond who never was.
Indeed.
And then a little further down, oh yeah, someone did say, what about the Wahlbergs?
The Wahlbergs.
Just said, the Wahlbergs.
Robert Duvall.
Oh, he's a bit old.
I don't think he does interviews anymore.
Vin Diesel.
No.
Also, someone said Tom Selleck.
Oh my gosh, totally.
Totally.
Yeah, someone said Kurt Russell.
Yeah, goodness.
Have any of you guys seen Bone Tomahawk?
I have not.
The worst Kurt Russell movie.
Worse than Death Proof?
No, it's not.
Look, it's a genre.
It's like, you know, uber-violent movies.
And uber-violent movies don't do it.
The only one, and I won't watch it again, but it was a good movie, and it's the only good Tarantino movie, is Reservoir Dogs.
I like Reservoir Dogs.
And it's a genre.
It's like the uber-violent stuff.
It's like, after a while, okay, dude, it's like, enough.
Yeah, I get it.
How is he doing this?
I'm supposed to be seeing President Trump tonight at 7.30 in D.C.
And he's starting a thing in Pennsylvania at 4.30.
Ten seconds.
Katie, put the podcast here.
Hi, this is President Trump and Sebastian is really a friend of mine.
He's a great guy.
He's been with me from the beginning.
Listen to him.
We all learn.
Thank you kindly, Mr. President.
Looking forward to seeing you this evening, I hope, at the amazing Moms for Liberty Summit in D.C., although he's about to take the stage in Georgetown, Pennsylvania.
So, man, he is an individual in motion.
Let's get back to your calls for suggestions as to who to interview from Hollywood.
Let's go to Ed in California.
Yes, Mr. Gorka.
Yep.
This is from People's Republic.
Just wanted to touch bases with you because of your breath of fresh air.
Thank you.
I wanted to suggest A man that played pro football back in the 60s with the Los Angeles Rounds by the name of Fred Dreyer.
Oh, I know Fred well.
I think he's been on the show a few years ago or I've been on his show in LA because he's very good friends and studio buddies with Jennifer Horne and that's a great idea.
Fred Dreyer.
Superb.
And guys, I'm not a He was teamed up with another actor.
His name escapes me right now.
But when I interviewed him, I did interview him on this show, I watched some of the footage,
Ed, of him playing football.
Man was he graceful.
He was teamed up with another actor.
His name escapes me right now.
He was in the movie Predator.
And they were called the Gruesome Twosomes.
They were both defensive linemen.
Oh my gosh, that's fascinating.
All right, we'll look that up.
Great suggestion.
Let's go to Tad in Ohio.
He's got another one for us.
Dr. Gorka.
Yep.
It's an honor to speak with you, sir.
Most kind.
Who would you like us to interview?
I think a great interview would be Steve Buscemi.
I don't know if he's conservative or not.
Well, look, he was a firefighter, so he's got to live in the real world, right?
Exactly.
I mean, when 9-11 hit, he grabbed his gear and just went to work.
Yeah.
I mean, a guy who actually had a real job before he went into Hollywood.
Absolutely great idea.
He's on the list.
Let's squeeze in one more call.
Dave, Arizona.
Thanks, Dr. Gorker.
An homage to Ray and Livermore.
My EDC is a Sig Sauer 239 9mm.
239!
That's an unusual choice.
Interesting.
I like it.
I like it.
It was actually the last gun at my Alamo store in Surprise, Arizona in the middle of June.
It was the only semi-automatic they had left.
Why?
They'd sold out of everything else?
Yes, sir.
I had a 239.
My only issue is it's a bit heavy for the number of rounds it holds.
Yeah, I exchange clips pretty fast.
Alright, you've got 40 seconds.
Hit me.
What's your topic?
Well, I'm still waiting on a replacement shirt, because I retired my LGBTQ shirt.
I'm going to get you to sign at the Talkers Tour, but I need a replacement shirt, because that one's off the market.
Alright, alright.
I think you wanted to talk about what's happening in Aurora.
We'll discuss it the next hour of the show, but...
He's so sneaky, isn't he, old Dave?
Stay on the line.
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My policy perspective and decision-making is that we are going to have to make a decision.
perspective and decisions is my values have not changed.
You mentioned the Green New Deal.
I have always believed, and I have worked on it, that the climate crisis is real, that it is an urgent matter to which we should apply metrics that include holding ourselves to deadlines around time.
We did that with the Inflation Reduction Act.
We have set goals for the United States of America and by extension the globe around when we should meet certain standards for reduction of greenhouse gas emissions as an example.
That value has not changed.
My value around what we need to do to secure our border.
That value has not changed.
I spent two terms as the Attorney General of California prosecuting transnational criminal organizations, violations of American laws regarding the passage, illegal passage, of guns, drugs, and human beings across our border.
My values have not changed.
That's a bit weird, because you let 20 million illegals into the country in the last three and a half years.
Jeff, help me out.
So the question from Dana Bash, who's married to Obama's CIA Chief of Staff, for the record, asks Kamala, why have you flip-flopped on policies?
And her answer is, my values haven't changed.
That's such a typical liberal let-me-get-out-of-it response.
But if your values haven't changed, neither can your policies.
I hope she brings it up in the debate because it's such a fake politician answer.
Well, maybe we just don't understand politics.
Oh my gosh, look at that.
I'm on Salem.
I'm watching myself now on Salem.
Yes, you can listen to us on radio, you can watch us on the Salem channel on Pluto!
I'm so excited.
That's really cool.
I hadn't done that before.
Let's get back to the topic at hand, the not-live interview with the babysitter and the cue cards.
Maybe the I-haven't-changed-and-neither-have-my-values comment can be explained by the political expert, the senior advisor, the attorney to the most famous man in the world.
He's called Boris Epstein, but we call him the Baron.
Welcome back, Baron!
It's so great to be with you.
It's so great to be with America First audience.
Shabbat Shalom to everybody and wishing everyone a good long weekend of domination.
I forgot it's a long weekend, isn't it?
Oh my gosh.
I think I'm going to have to smoke some cigars.
Are you going to smoke some cigars, my friend?
I'm planning on it.
I'm planning on smoking a nice long one tonight, as a matter of fact.
All right.
I think I'm going to have to join you.
We have this habit, the Baron and I, whenever we're smoking a cigar, we send photographs of the cigar we're smoking to each other.
It's like a race thing.
All right, let's get back to business.
Look, I'm biased.
I work for the president.
You still work for the president.
I'm going to see him tonight in DC.
I can't wait to catch up with him.
I thought last night was a disaster.
Just the visuals of Kamala, like, at the kiddie table with Waltz closer to the camera, looking giant.
The fact that she looked down all the time at her cue cards.
The bookies!
Boris, the bookies in the UK have bumped up presidents' chances of winning after her interview.
Well, the interview was a complete and total disaster.
There's no doubt about it.
Kamala Harris showed exactly why she was, whatever, 23rd, 25th, 30th out of 30 candidates in the 2020 Democrat election.
She's a horrible politician.
She obviously knows nothing about anything.
And by the way, you have to give some credit to Dana Bash.
There were some tough questions asked there.
Hang on, I'll give her credit for some reasonable questions, but zero follow-up.
Never follow-up.
Yes, obviously, but the bar is so low, right?
So, you know, if they're asking anything but Well, how wonderful are you and your husband and his nanny?
Everything, you know, everything beyond that, you're shocked at.
It was actually kind of shocking to see Dan and Bash.
What about you flip-flopping on fracking?
What about the border?
Kamala Harris had no answers whatsoever.
And then just really, I mean, straight out of Orwellian 1984, we need major change.
We don't want to go back.
Hello?
Kamala Harris and crooked Joe Biden have been in office for three and a half years.
And they said, well, we've had this Decade of malaise.
Or whatever she said.
Decade?
Okay.
So that goes back to 2014.
I hate to break it to her.
Maybe she doesn't know.
Maybe she's, you know, kind of out of it a little bit.
Who knows?
But for a decade, from 2014 to early 2017, Barack Obama was the president.
Okay?
Don't you understand Biden math, Barron?
That's Biden math.
You know what?
That's why you're so smart.
And that's why you have such a successful show.
Because you understand that when she says decade, she just means the full year.
She means seven years minus three and a half.
That's Biden math.
Right.
And during the Trump administration, when America was powerful, rich, respected by our adversaries and our allies alike, we don't want to go back.
If you think that impasse goes, who doesn't want to go back?
The liberals who don't want to go back are the radical liberals who are weaponizing our system of justice, weaponizing law enforcement, and are so completely deluded, they think that the country, or at least they pretend to think, The country's better off now than it was under President Trump, which is a complete and total fallacy.
All right, let's play the reference, the question on fracking last night.
The not live, I can't believe every commercial break they said coming to you live from Georgia.
No, you weren't.
It was pre-recorded and the whole thing was 26 minutes long.
This is cut 10.
And in 2019, you said, quote, there is no question I'm in favor of banning fracking.
Fracking, as you know, is a pretty big issue, particularly in your must-win state of Pennsylvania.
Do you still want to ban fracking?
No, and I made that clear on the debate stage in 2020, that I would not ban fracking.
As vice president, I did not ban fracking.
As president, I will not ban fracking.
In 2019, I believe, at a town hall, you said, you were asked, would you commit to implementing a federal ban on fracking on your first day in office?
And you said, there's no question I'm in favor of banning fracking.
So yes.
So it changed in that campaign?
In 2020, I made very clear where I stand.
We are in 2024, and I've not changed that position, nor will I going forward.
I kept my word, and I will keep my word.
Well, what was her word?
We have that cut as well.
Let's go back to the OG Kamala on fracking.
Eric, would you play that cut?
There's no question I'm in favor of banning fracking.
And starting with what we can do on day one around public lands, right?
I'm going to ask the naive question.
You are the political expert.
Are there no consequences to just blatant lying like that, Boris?
There should be consequences, and it's clear that she's blatantly lying.
There's absolutely no doubt about it.
She's just totally trying to gaslight the American people.
Oh, this is different.
Don't worry about it.
I've only been lying about it for four years, and I'm not going to lie about it anymore.
Again, this is why Kamala Harris is so deeply and completely and totally unpopular.
She is not a serious person.
She is not a serious politician.
And that guy sitting next to her yesterday, Tim Walz, whatever his name is, he's a total disaster.
Governor Walz, why did you lie about your service?
Oh, well, English and grammar and my wife.
Hello?
What?
He answered, well we're going to play the cut later with our good friend Colonel Kirchlichter.
He's asked about lying about carrying a weapon of war in a war.
And his response, Baron, is about school shootings.
It was about everything under the sun.
Yeah.
And grammar.
And my wife says I don't speak good.
And the dog.
And the cat ate my homework.
And I can't get a collar stay to keep my collar under my jacket.
And I'm a total mess.
This is...
You know, frankly, and I really try to be as objective as I can be.
This is the most So what's going to happen on the debate stage?
I just realized what you said.
We're just playing the footage of the background.
What is it?
Why can't he have his shirt collar under his jacket?
How did he look in uniform?
crooked Joe Biden in that debate. That's why Biden is not the nominee.
I just realized what you said. We're just playing the footage in the background.
Why can't he have his shirt collar under his jacket?
How did he look in uniform? I dread to think.
Well, it's Crash Course.
Just imagine this one thing.
Imagine those two having a conversation.
I mean, this is a question of Tweedledee and Tweedledum.
Uh, so how was, uh, how was your service?
Oh, when I was in Afghanistan.
Oh, and how was McDonald's?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I was slinging a French fry.
Did you like it?
Do they lie to each other?
And by the way, notice every single picture or every single shot of the two of them, how uncomfortable Tim Walz looks.
He wants to be anywhere but there.
He maybe want to be back, you know, in Minnesota during the 2020 election.
And that strange thing he does with his leg, that strange leg flip, it's just so weird.
All right, I can't believe we're out of time.
He's got to start going to his humidor right now to prepare for the long weekend.
Have a blessed one, my dear friend.
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You said you were with Kurt. Who are you?
You wanted to use, uh...
Waltz.
Yeah, I'm going to use Waltz, both the Town Hall one and yesterday's one.
I'm going to do Car 15, and then... Oh, I'm going to do Cut 6 first.
Or maybe... Maybe come in with it because it's short?
No, I'm gonna actually discuss that with Kurt.
Got a couple of superchats, by the way.
Come in with nine, come in with nine.
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If her values haven't changed, then either in the past or now, she's promoting policies that don't align with her values.
She's admitting she will compromise her values for political expediency.
Well said.
Did we agree to this interview to be 9am somewhere in DC?
Is that what they requested?
Um, yeah.
Do you want me to push back?
Yeah, yeah.
Try and ask them if they can do it in the studio.
11ish?
No, like 12.30.
12.30.
Okay, I'll ask them.
No, like 1230.
1230, okay, I'll ask them.
Tell them they can use the green room.
I'm excited.
This studio here. Yeah, yeah, they don't have a place yet.
So, okay. Oh, alrighty. I will let them know two minutes and he's on
They let him out of court they took the leg shackles off him. All right good
Nice Do we need to talk about Sydney sometime
Anytime you want to call me we can Alright, good.
We're gonna have fun with the cackler and with wolves, alright?
Roger.
Maybe you should interview me like CNN would interview Kamala.
Kurt, you're handsome and brilliant.
How do you balance handsomeness and brilliance?
There's this moment when they said, and next we're going to talk about that photograph in your home and your little nieces and how that photograph is such an amazing part of your life.
And I'm thinking, What analog to that question was there that CNN asked President Trump over the last eight years about amazing photographs in his home?
There's so many instances, Kurt.
So many instances.
There's so many.
It's just, you know, they are unburdened by what has been.
They are unburdened by truth.
That's what they're unburdened by.
They talked about a lot of photos in his home.
The one that the FBI staged, remember?
Right, exactly.
And we're going to talk about Arlington, okay?
Oh, absolutely.
All right, and use the taps and everything else as b-roll, Eric, okay, when we get to that.
Okay.
Now, you know I represent, briefly, the families of Lance Corporal, well, one of the Marines, I don't want to... Yeah, now that you mention it, now that you mention it.
All right, Car 15.
It was brief, but, you know, they're real people.
Yep, we had several of them on.
He was very clear that he was going to support it.
So when he called to tell you, he said, I'm pulling out of the race and I'm going to support you.
Well, my first thought was not about me, to be honest with you.
My first thought was about him, to be honest.
I think history is going to show a number of things about Joe Biden's presidency.
I think history is going to show that in so many ways it was transformative.
I just want to ask a Democrat, did they believe anything they heard in the last 40 seconds?
I mean, just honestly, my first thought wasn't about me.
No, no, it was, it was about Joe.
It was about poor old Joe.
Yeah, right.
Of course, we believe you.
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Happy Friday!
Happy Friday, Dr. Corker.
Glad to be here.
So much to discuss.
We have to discuss AWOLs.
We have to discuss Arlington Cemetery.
But first, you are a man who, you know, you've led men in uniform and women.
You understand body language.
You understand truth and probity.
What does the response to this question mean to you?
Or rather, The lack of response.
Kamala Harris in the canned fluff piece yesterday cut six play cuts.
He suggested that you happened to turn black recently for political purposes.
Questioning a core part of your identity.
Any same old tired playbook.
Next question, please.
That's it?
That's it.
Okay.
Next question, giggle giggle.
It's just weird.
I depose people for a living when they react like that.
It's just weird.
I'm not supposed to say weird.
Only Republicans are weird.
Sorry.
But if this was such a seminal thing, if this was a slight and a slur on her identity, I'd expect anger or at minimum I'd expect a response but not a pause,
a giggle, old playbook, next question I don't know what to do with that Kurt.
It's like she's some sort of weird robot and running her program saying what would a human
do in this situation.
And my gosh can you think of a softer softball.
It's like, it's like t-ball.
It's not even softball.
Yeah.
With a Nerf ball.
It's ridiculous.
Did you feel bad when Donald Trump pointed out that sometimes you emphasize being black and other times you emphasize being Indian and that this means, you know, kind of shows you're inauthentic?
Did this destroy you utterly to the core of your being?
Giggle, giggle.
Weird, serious look.
Next question.
All right, let's get to the other man, the other person in the interview.
Just the optics, the optics were awful.
You've got Kamala looking like she's at the kid at the adult table, and then Waltz is right next to the camera looking like he's six foot tall.
And then they actually ask him a question about stating that he carried a weapon of war in war.
And his answer, Well, it's not an answer.
Cut 11.
You said that you carried weapons in war, but you have never deployed actually in a war zone.
A campaign official said that you misspoke.
Did you?
Well, first of all, I'm incredibly proud.
I've done 24 years of wearing the uniform of this country.
Equally proud of my service in a public school classroom, whether it's Congress or the governor.
My record speaks for itself, but I think people are coming to get to know me.
I speak like they do.
I speak candidly.
I wear my emotions on my sleeves.
I speak especially passionately about our children being shot in schools and around guns.
So I think people know me.
They know who I am.
They know where my heart is.
And again, my record has been out there for over 40 years, to speak for itself.
The idea that you said that you were in war.
Did you misspeak as the campaign has said?
Yeah, I said we were talking about, in this case this was after a school shooting, the ideas of carrying these weapons of war.
And my wife, the English you're telling my grammar is not always correct.
So I got two questions for you.
First, you're asked about lying about carrying a weapon of war in war and your response is school shootings.
I think we know what you said and that you're lying.
And then secondly, can I drill down on this?
I consider you a dear friend of mine and it's kind of bugged me for a long time.
He said repeatedly, I am proud of my 24 years in uniform.
Kurt, you know me.
I was in the equivalent of the National Guard in the UK.
It's called the Territorial Army.
I did it for three years.
Never, ever in my life, in my 54 years on the planet, have I said, I wore the uniform for three years.
I wore it at weekends, and when I was in basic training, and for my two-week mandatory every year.
He didn't wear a uniform for 24 years.
Am I nitpicking there?
Look, Of all the things he said, I find it at the least.
I spent probably five years active duty and then about 22 guard, but I was always on call.
Right, but I don't think there's any video of you saying, I wore the uniform for 27 years.
Everything he does is shaded to increase the prestige that comes from what he did.
I find that...
To demonstrate a lack of character.
I want everybody to know I commanded a heavily armed car wash.
I'm not ashamed of it, but I'm not freaking Rambo.
I went, I did my job, and I think I did it well.
I took care of my guys, and I served honorably, and that's it.
And I don't understand guys who try and make more of it.
If he had just, you know, been straight up with everybody, hey, I got sent to Italy to guard Air Force bases for a while.
Everybody's gonna go, oh, okay, all right.
Somebody's gotta go shovel stuff in Louisiana while other guys are coming ashore at Normandy.
It happens, okay?
But I think your point is the point.
If there was ever an option to obfuscate in a way that made him look better, he took that option.
We supported OEF.
What does that mean?
It means you were drinking cappuccinos in the piazza in Italy.
That's what it means.
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Pratt.
Oh, not Eric Pratt, the president talking about Gun Owners of America.
Oh, that one that we... I'll shorten it down.
The one that we had, but you can cut it in half.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was like 50 seconds.
No, it was like two minutes.
I'll cut it to, like, 50.
Cut it to, like, 40 seconds or something.
Do you want him to mention Gun Owners of America, though?
Yes, if you can.
If you can, yeah.
That was recent, yeah.
Yeah.
Or his address, yeah.
It was last Friday.
It was his address to them, yeah.
Yeah.
And when you got a moment, need a title for Boris.
Uh, for Boris...
I don't know, help me out.
Um, hmm.
Needs to be on video.
Um... What did he say about the interview?
It was, um... Uh... What did he say?
Uh, just said Kamala just killed her odds.
Kamala... Oh, that's right.
He said, yeah, it shows that she's losing.
Yeah, yeah.
Alright.
Kamala just killed her odds.
Alright.
So how often do you have to be in court?
Rarely, right?
Very rarely.
I mean, I've got two people out of my office right now.
For various unavoidable reasons.
So I find myself having to actually do things, which I'm usually against.
You have to work?
What?
What?
I know, right?
My name's on the door.
I should be sitting there holding court, rather than negotiating.
I mean, I negotiated a great deal today.
I think it was a good, fair deal.
And you're only doing civil stuff, right?
Yeah, I only do civil.
Sue or get sued.
And then I advise people on contracts and things.
People you've heard of.
I am sure.
I am sure.
Under the surface conservative litigator guy.
All my good stories are confidential.
That's my problem.
That's no fun.
On the plus side, I drive a pretty nice car.
How's your bride?
She is wonderful.
She just got back from a little trip, and she is actually asleep, trying to get back on the Pacific time zone.
Oh, actually, come in with wolves, carrying a weapon of war, 15.
Yes.
And then I'll tee up Bolton after car.
After car, okay.
Okay.
70 seconds.
One minute.
Shhh.
Karl, they're going to have to cancel his meeting with us tonight.
He's like half an hour late, right?
Aww.
I'm sorry.
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You need to stop what's happening with this.
I'll take my kick in the butt for the NRA.
I spent 25 years in the Army, and I hunt.
And I gave the money back, and I'll tell you what I have been doing.
I've been voting for common-sense legislation that protects the Second Amendment, but we can do background checks.
We can do CDC research.
We can make sure we don't have reciprocal carry among states, and we can make sure that those weapons of war that I carried in war is the only place where those weapons are at.
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Alright, we have to swift shift azimuth to what happened on Monday in Arlington Cemetery, but first, every time I hear that clip, of course he lied about carrying a weapon of war in a war, but the weird thing, did you catch that?
Every time he gets me, and of course I blocked legislation for reciprocity of concealed carry, and I'm going, So I've got a permit to carry in DC, one of the toughest in the planet, Virginia and Maryland, which means I can basically carry anywhere right now.
Why would a governor want to block reciprocity of people who've already met the standard?
What could the motivation be, Kurt?
It really doesn't add up.
It's almost like he's not a Not telling the truth about his support for the Second Amendment.
Frankly, first of all, I think the entire country should have constitutional carry.
Yes.
And my adopted state of Texas does, and unfortunately California doesn't.
I love how as a guy who was a battalion commander with over a thousand guys with machine guns on the street of L.A.
during a mobilization for a disaster, M-16s, He has to go ask some clerk whether he meets the standard to carry the same gun he carried, you know, as a soldier.
Yeah, there's something wrong with that.
There's something wrong with that.
Yeah, it seems weird.
All right, so an amazingly solemn ceremony.
The parents, the Goldstar families, requested President Trump be there on Monday.
No political statements made, no political advertisements came out of it.
And then the scum at NPR, the scum at the Secretary of the Army's office, and the scum who worked for President Trump in the White House like John Bolton have this to say.
Cut 13.
Well, obviously they think it will help them, but it simply proves the point.
They're using the whole thing for political purposes.
That's expressly what Congress was trying to prevent, and in the regulations that make it clear that that's not what Arlington National Cemetery is for.
I can't predict what the political outcome will be, but I just think it's shameful behavior.
I have multiple members of the families on my show this week.
I had Mike Waltz on, who said there was no altercation.
It didn't happen.
Where are we, Kurt?
The Army lambasts a ceremony respecting the 13 killed at Abbey Gate?
Well, first of all, I think it's appropriate to have John Bolton weigh in, since he has a vested interest in Arlington, considering his incompetence has helped fill it.
You know, I love the Trump exception where things that were not a problem until Trump did it and embarrassed the current regime, then suddenly it becomes the worst thing.
Well, of course you can't honor the people that we got killed for our gross incompetence and negligence.
Well, of course you can't possibly do it.
It's ridiculous.
And the right answer is to tell them to, well, it's to tell them something not SEC compliant.
Look, I had the honor of representing the family of one of the Marines killed in Kabul through the gross incompetence of the Biden administration.
It brings two points up.
The first point is these are real people who have suffered real loss.
And they should be honored.
The second is, and this is important, those young Americans were unbelievable heroes.
I know what they did because I had access to what they did.
And, you know, I look at them and I'm in awe.
And they deserve all the respect we can give them.
If the current alleged president's too busy sunning himself on the beach, and the current presidential candidate for the Democrat Party prepping for an 18-minute interview, well, that's one thing.
But we have a former and future president who honors our troops.
And, dammit, I'm proud of him.
And anybody who doesn't like it, well, they know what they can go do.
And let me just reiterate, because Kurt knows the details, the average age of the 13 warfighters killed on that day three years ago on Monday was 20 years old.
And they needn't have died.
And the only reason President Trump couldn't pay respects to them is because the current administration got them killed.
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You have these moments where you like cut through it and it's that comment about all
the rules don't apply because it's him and it's because we got them killed.
That's the point.
That's the point.
Yeah, I gotta say, I think I got some in my eye talking about those young troops.
You know, they say we don't hate journalists enough and we don't.
We don't.
We don't respect our troops enough.
I know what they did.
And sometime when we're alone.
By the way, I may be coming into town next month.
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All right?
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I'll give you a call.
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We'll get you in studio.
All right.
I'll try and put that together.
I got a tight schedule, but I think there's a I think I can make it happen.
Thanks for having me.
And thanks for letting me talk about those troops.
Yeah.
What was the reason you were helping them?
Were you helping them with DoD?
I was asked to be a representative, a legal representative, when they were briefed by the Marine Corps on what happened there.
They briefed all the families the same day about exactly what happened.
I grabbed another buddy who's a lawyer and also a former battalion commander, and we both went.
And you've never seen a Marine Corps colonel less happy to see two lawyers there and then to find out their former battalion commander.
Wow, where did that happen?
In California, or did you have to do it here?
Yeah, they came to the house of the family, and we were there, and we asked questions, and they had some good answers.
I asked why were no officers killed, and they were able to tell me where the platoon leader, company commander, and the town commander were, and all of them were close enough to be wounded.
Which is the right answer.
Yeah.
I'm glad, I'm glad you were there, Kurt.
I'll talk to you soon.
I'll give you a call.
Okay.
Thanks, buddy.
All right.
Mm-hmm.
Um... Tuttle for that.
Hang on.
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The President recently did a shockingly long video on Truth Social about the Second Amendment for an organization you may or may not be familiar with, and it's quite the shout-out.
Hello, gun owners of America.
I'm so proud of your work defending our constitutional rights, especially our always under siege Second Amendment.
That's what it is.
It's an under siege Second Amendment, but we're going to keep it strong.
We're now running against the most radical gun grabber that has ever been nominated for president of the United States by far.
Kamala Harris has supported gun confiscation schemes throughout her career, and she does it constantly, and that's what she wants, and she's looking for mandatory buybacks.
We're not going to let that happen.
But let's call it what it is, really.
It is gun confiscation, and it's a violation of your constitutional rights.
I've been fighting this for years.
I'm a bit annoyed at Gun Owners of America.
They invited me to their recent big annual shindig.
I had to be traveling for a charity and they didn't even ask me to make that video happen.
They could have said, hey Seb, you know the president, you got his phone number.
They got it by themselves.
I'm a little hard done by, but it tells you Just how serious they are.
And that they are the gun rights organization!
And we're delighted to have with us their Senior Vice President, Eric Pratt!
Congratulations on that rather sterling shout-out from my former boss!
Oh, well thank you.
Sebastian, we missed you.
We wished you could have been there.
We're doing it again next year in the same place, Knoxville, so make plans to be there.
We look forward to having you.
But yeah, we were really excited by the message that he gave.
I think that's the longest statement he's given on, I only played a clip of it, that's the longest statement he's done on just the Second Amendment.
Oh, it was huge, because he said three really key things.
I mean, you played the part where he said he's proud of GOA's work in defending Second Amendment rights.
That was really awesome.
And he also mentioned that Kamala Harris has supported mandatory gun buybacks, and he correctly identified that's gun confiscation.
But the other huge thing that he said is that when he's in office, he's going to listen to GOA.
And I tell you, Sebastian, that's huge because there's a lot of gun owners who are not registered to vote.
There's about 10 million and Trump actually mentions that in this video.
But look, our own polling of more than 22,000 gun owners shows that 68% A lot of gun owners are single-issue voters on the Second Amendment.
That's ginormous.
If they don't think that their voice matters in a national election, if they don't think that there's a principled, really a Second Amendment choice for them, then they're not going to vote.
So Trump telling us that he's going to listen to GOA, I mean, that's a huge positive step.
That could very well energize a lot of gun owners to vote in this November.
All right, well, I look forward to seeing you in Knoxville next year.
Congratulations.
Everybody needs to join gunowners.org.
That's gunowners.org.
I'm a member.
The fact is we have, we have, it's down thanks to Scott Pressler, but we had 600,000 hunters in Pennsylvania alone who weren't registered to vote.
And I think you're insane.
You hunt with a gun and you don't think that voting matters and Kamala Harris isn't a threat to your hunting license or your ownership of guns.
Get organized and understand that you've got to register and you've got to be involved politically if the Second Amendment matters to you.
Let's say, God willing, President Trump wins and that vision that he gave for you and your members for your event can be implemented.
What's reasonable?
What's realistic?
I, for one, I've got lots of NFA items.
I'd like to see the NFA struck down.
I'd like to see suppressors, short-barreled rifles being legal for all Americans, constitutional carry supported by the Supreme Court.
Everyone can do that in any state.
I think that's doable.
What else do we have to achieve in America so that that civil right really is a civil right?
Well, we want to radically defund the ATF.
We managed to get work with some congressmen Earlier this year, to cut their funding by $122 million, it set the anti-gun left off.
Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois was whining, oh, this is going to make it difficult for the ATF to enforce gun control.
And of course, we're applauding saying that's exactly what we're after.
Who are you working with?
Who are you working with to get that done?
Well, members of the Appropriations Committee.
And that was really key.
So, you know, $122 million, that's just a start.
We want to go further.
I think another thing is reciprocity.
We really need reciprocity.
Right now, Gun Owners of America has won two cases In New York and California where now out-of-state residents can get carry permits.
You just won that, the one in New York with my buddy from Newsmax, Carl Higby, right?
Yes, sir.
That's right.
We were really excited about that.
Yeah, New York City put up the white flag and they said, okay, we'll start issuing out-of-state permits.
So Carl Higby is going to be able to get one.
That means that now you can start in Florida, drive all the way up the East Coast, and you're not going to have to stick your gun in the trunk and unload it.
keep the ammunition separate.
You're gonna have concealed carry.
I mean, you're gonna have to get a New York City permit, and it's still onerous, but what I'm telling you is,
we've cracked the door open, and we're moving towards freedom.
So that's an exciting thing.
But that's why we really need reciprocity.
Reciprocity would just take care of all that, where every state just has to recognize
every other state's permit in the same way that we do with driver's licenses or marriage licenses.
Wow, what a crazy idea!
Recognize a marriage license across America.
I think you're being far too modest and unambitious.
I think the goal is to dismantle the ATF and I nominate Dan Bongino as the director of the ATF who will actually dismantle it.
What do you think about that, Eric?
I second the nomination and so ordered.
Alright.
Well, that's ultimately the goal, Sebastian.
Absolutely.
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I don't have a...
We don't know.
The timing, it takes a couple minutes to do.
We can't just do the Fox audio?
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We can do the audio, yeah.
Do the Fox audio.
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What happened to my feed?
I can't hear anything in my ear.
That's so weird.
I did hear it and then it went.
Technology.
Is it because it's a Friday?
What cuts have we failed to play from the disastrous Kamala interview?
Oh!
Immigration.
Borders Arena or not Borders Arena.
Cut eight!
During the Biden-Harris administration, there were record numbers of illegal border crossings.
Why did the Biden-Harris administration wait three and a half years to implement sweeping asylum restrictions?
Well, first of all, the root causes work that I did as vice president, that I was asked to do by the president, has actually resulted in a number of benefits, including historic investments by American businesses in that region.
The number of immigrants coming from that region has actually reduced since we began that work.
So she was in charge of the border or not?
Handling the root causes of immigration?
That sounds to me like she was in charge.
I'm so confused.
Somebody who's never confused, one of the smartest political minds in the nation, former Speaker of the House, he had to suffer through the 26 minutes as well.
And this is what Newt Gingrich decided about it.
Cut 12.
In the case of Harris, the big message out of last night is she claims that she was really aggressive as the Attorney General of California taking on the various international gangs.
Well, how come there's a Venezuelan gang terrorizing Aurora, Colorado?
How come under her watch as the czar for the border, We now have eight or nine million illegal immigrants.
We have gangs from El Salvador, gangs from Mexico, gangs from Venezuela.
You know, it doesn't ring true.
And I think in that sense, last night showed us the Kamala Harris who's going to lose the election.
So may it be from your lips new to God's ears.
We haven't discussed it.
Eric, what's the story about Aurora and the Venezuelan gangs?
The videos they've shown, they're like those ring doorbell cameras that have captured it, several instances.
It's literally something out of the third world.
There's these groups of illegals with guns, just brandishing their guns, rifles, handguns, going door to door and knocking.
And as soon as the residents open the door, they just instantly start flooding into the apartment.
And in other cases, when the residents don't open the doors, they take out hammers and they just start whacking away at the locks until they break the doors open.
The latest, I saw this on the Fox Report earlier today, is these illegals who have seized an entire apartment building in Aurora, Colorado, are now collecting rent from the people living in the building.
I think that could be the next Trump ad.
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Is he always typecast as a captain of a vessel, whether it's a spaceship or a nuclear carrier?
Maybe.
We don't see enough of Tom Skerritt.
He is, of course, the commander for the Tears of the Sun mission led by Bruce Willis to rescue that famous missionary Monica Bellucci in a fictionalized version of the Biafran Civil War in Nigeria.
And it's a listener's choice.
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And we're gonna analyze it.
We're gonna make movies great again.
It's perhaps the newest movie we've ever done.
It's only 21 years old.
Chris Coles, were you familiar with Tears of the Sun?
No, you know, I had never seen the film.
There was some talk of the reason it was chosen was because it was a prime example of masculinity.
And I think that to some degree that is actually true.
I think that the main theme that I got from it was a line very early in the film where Bruce Willis' character said, Look, I didn't, I wasn't trying to save your life.
I'm just trying to complete the mission.
And sometimes, you know, you just have to get the job done.
I often talk about this, analogizing it with taking out the trash.
Nobody really likes taking out the trash.
It's an annoying little job that has to be done.
But if you don't do it, you eventually you get maggots.
The maggots crawl out of the trash bin and they crawl all over the carpet.
I have actually had this happen to me a couple of times in my youth when I was living alone because I don't like taking out the trash.
But you know what?
If you don't do it, it's a mess.
So you got to do it every single day, whether you like it or not.
And sometimes Taking out the trash means going and extracting somebody from a hostile country, something like that, and that's exactly what this movie is all about.
I still don't quite know why it was called Tears of the Sun, maybe you could illuminate that for me.
I will try, since my first degree was Philosophy and Theology, but let's start with your superb analysis.
Sometimes the trash you have to take out is two-legged, and who better than Bruce Willis?
Yippee-ki-yay.
To have the two-legged trash taken out, he is the commander.
LT!
It's a bit bloody old for a lieutenant, but he is the commander of the SEAL team that goes into Nigeria to save Monica Bellucci.
I can't believe this.
Some people are just so sad.
I was reading all the comments on IMDB and everything else, and somebody said, this is so wrong.
It's such a blooper.
They say in the beginning briefing, she's an American by marriage.
You can't be an American by marriage.
I'm an American by marriage.
It's called being a green card holder who's naturalized.
Guys, you got to check your facts.
Not everything on IMDB is correct.
However, not just IMDB, but several places talked about the tension.
We'll talk about the big themes of taking out the trash and what that really means in practice and the horrors of What is depicted in the movie, which is based on real life, I mean, things like the rape, the murder, the... I won't go into the details, but that's happening right now in numerous parts of the world.
But there's an interesting aspect to the story, how it was finally birthed.
Because apparently, numerous reports that Anton Fuqua, the director who's responsible for the great series of Equalizer movies with Denzel Washington, He had a vision of a film about the tragedy of what happened in Nigeria, brought up to the modern age, and to make it really focused on that, the human story.
And then Bruce Willis, because he is Bruce Willis, Chris, he wanted to do an action movie!
And the constant tension, they hated each other on set.
I don't know about you, Chris, it's not Casablanca, but at the end of the day, I think that tension actually resulted in a movie which is neither the emotional, you know, tragedy porn or the action movie.
And it's, uh, I liked, at the end of the day, it talked about some deeply important issues that are about, what, brutality, vice, civilization.
No, absolutely.
I mean, if you're going to try to get a message across, I think that a film like this is a good vessel to express that message.
I'm not sure I took anything away from this film that was particularly poignant, but I will say that it felt like a very powerful film.
Just the way that it was produced.
It was produced in an almost epic way.
The cinematography was perfect.
The effects were perfect.
The costume was perfect.
The acting was perfect.
I mean, I would say that every aspect of production was perfect.
I think the score, although a beautiful score, a haunting score, was maybe a little bit too dramatic for this film.
I feel like this was something that was being done in the 2000s, the late 90s.
Although you are criticizing the great Hans Zimmer, you know that, right?
Well, you know, this almost didn't seem Hans Zimmer-esque.
There's a composer, I think his name is Michael Nyman or something like that, who did like Gattaca.
And he created these very sort of beautiful, dramatic scores.
And this kind of sounded to me more like him, even.
I mean, it's definitely a Hans Zimmer score.
It was too, to me, it was too dramatic.
And it created something that was almost like from the beginning to the end, it was like the emotional pull was at a 10.
And that gets exhausting before you reach the end of the film.
I felt like there were things about this film that could have been better, but it is a very haunting film.
It is a very powerful film.
I think the biggest criticism I have is actually of the Africans that they were trying to rescue.
I felt like from the very beginning, they're trying to get this woman out.
And you get a bit of an idea of the SEAL team.
You get an idea about Bruce Willis.
Obviously, we recognize him.
Monica Belushi, we've seen her in films before, so we recognize her.
And so we instantly have this thought, like, these are human beings that we care about.
But none of the Africans that were at the hospital Did we get an idea about them in any way?
We didn't get their character.
We didn't get their charisma.
We didn't get their playfulness.
We didn't get their jokes.
We don't understand why this woman loves these people so much that she's willing to die for them.
And I think that that would have been really helpful in order to care about these people more as we're going through the film.
You could sort of dismiss it as, well, it was a callous director or writer who didn't care about these Africans and so they didn't depict them.
But it's Anton Foucault who obviously cares about black people and Africans and all this sort of thing.
So I don't really know why he didn't do that.
He focused more on the white characters who were saving them.
I'm surprised this wasn't criticized by the left as like a white savior complex type film.
Yes.
Yeah, I don't think about it like that, but I do think about it in terms of story, and I do think we should have got a little bit more story of the black Africans that they were trying to save.
And I'll say something about them in a moment.
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Oh, I'm a little bit drunk.
God already left Africa.
Yeah.
Go with God, the priest who stays with two of the nurses.
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A couple of things, just nitpicking.
They don't have sergeants in the SEALs, so Bruce Willis wouldn't be addressing anyone as sergeant.
It's the U.S.
Navy.
On top of that, you don't shout FRAG.
You don't shout grenade when you're throwing a grenade.
You shout grenade when a grenade is being thrown at you.
And to be honest, Chris, you might have picked this up.
Nobody says ASAP in the military, okay?
Nobody says ASAP and you don't make phone calls from the deck of the carrier.
Sorry, Captain Skerritt.
It's a little bit noisy to make phone calls from the deck of the carrier as planes are landing.
And the last point, which I think you may have noticed since you are an honorary citizen of Hawaii.
This wasn't filmed in Africa, Chris.
It was filmed in...
I did notice that it was Hawaii.
There's those four waterfalls off a mountain in Hawaii, which are in every movie, every TV show from Magnum P.I.
to the present day to Jurassic Park.
Don't show those four waterfalls if you're meant to be in Africa, right, Chris?
Because everybody knows that's Hawaii.
Don't shatter the illusion for everybody.
Look, it looks fantastic.
As I was watching, I was thinking like, well, is it is it Hawaii or maybe they have a place in Africa that looks like that?
I was trying to be nice in my head, you know, OK, maybe it was.
But no, I think it was pretty obviously Hawaii.
But, you know, it looks beautiful.
I never really understood whilst I was watching the film.
It just seems so irrational to me that the priest and the nuns stayed there.
Like, why are you staying there?
You are going to die.
Go with them!
What is your problem?
Just, like, go!
I didn't understand it.
Of course they're slaughtered.
You know, spoiler alert, they're slaughtered, obviously.
It didn't make any sense.
It seemed like a waste to me.
I didn't understand that, like, plot-wise.
I guess, you know, you want to...
You want to do it just to show the brutality of the African warlords or military folk.
I mean, these are like brutal, brutal savages.
And if you watch any kind of documentary about the wars that occur in Africa, it is absolutely sickening.
And this film, I mean, if you want to know what it's really like, I feel like this film probably gives you a good idea, except for yelling ASAP and grenade.
I mean, I mean, that's just, you know, Hollywood, right?
That's Hollywood.
You have to do that for the shot.
It just looks better.
I mean, if you just got him in his cabin, it's not, you know, like on the bridge or something, it's just not gonna look right.
It's just gonna look a little bit boring.
So yeah, it looked better on the deck there.
You made a very interesting comment about the refugees who they're saving.
So they're supposed to take out only Monica Bellucci and the foreign nationals.
And she says, I refuse.
We've got people who are ambulatory and who we have to rescue as well,
who are the victims of the civil war.
And so Bruce Willis says, okay, well, we're gonna walk to Cameroon.
We're gonna save all these people.
And the fascinating thing about this story, and this is where Fuqua's kind of focus
on the human interest, is that.
Almost all of those refugees, the Africans from the mission, they're actually real refugees who were brought to Hawaii, Fuqua brought to Hawaii.
I mean, you've got people who are amputees and so forth, the accents are real, they're from Africa.
And then, Chris, if you're bringing real refugees You should have a little bit of the story based around their story, not just the beautiful Bellucci and the action hero Quintessence, who is Bruce Willis.
Yeah, I don't know why he didn't do that.
I mean, just at the beginning, you know, it's possible just because he was bringing in people that weren't actors.
And so maybe it's difficult to get the performance you need out of them.
But you just have to hire one or two actors to intermingle with the rest of them.
And then you get their story, you get their expression, you get an idea of who they are, and then you can kind of parlay that idea onto some of the others, you know, expand it to the others in your mind, and then you think, these are good people, right?
And that's what you want to believe.
You want to believe that these are very good people, that these are in fact the good guys, the victims, the people that need to be saved, and so you want to feel like what the hero's doing is a valuable thing to do.
And you know, you kind of get that sense.
You kind of get the sense of their victims, that they're good people, but you don't know because you haven't been given any details about their life.
You can't, you've never heard any of them tell a joke.
You don't really know about them.
You learn a little bit as the story goes.
there's one guy that betrays them.
And the reason he says he betrays them is because they're holding his family,
which is kind of like a cliche thing that you hear in movies sometimes
with somebody who feels like he has to do something bad.
Well, they've got my family, they've got my family.
That's kind of a typical thing.
And so you can kind of assign value to these people, but it would just, would have been nice
to set that up a little bit earlier in the film so that we do think that, yeah,
what they're doing is really important.
And you don't really get that sense until a little bit later when there's a reveal about, you know, somebody who they're taking along that's more important than they realized.
And that sort of thing, but I don't know.
It was a really well-made film.
It was a powerful film.
I wish it had had maybe a more significant message, like a more coherent and significant message, and I wish that we would have gotten to know these refugees a little bit better.
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Alright, another clip from the movie Tears of the Sun.
So, um, this is what they do.
How can they do this?
This is what they do.
They cut off the breasts of nursing mothers so that they'll never again feed their own babies.
This is what they do.
One of the most horrific scenes in the movie as a nursing mother is found by the SEAL team.
Chris, I think if only for this moment, and for this reason alone,
films like this, or even documentaries about what really happened in Africa, in Rwanda, in the Balkans,
these are really important, because we forget the fact.
We think, oh, the Holocaust was awful, but that was ancient history.
World War I was a hundred years ago.
These kinds of things are happening right now.
If you go, I have a friend who goes to Rwanda frequently to help there, and I asked her, so do you still see people with one arm because of the Tutsi and the Hutu method of removing your arm with a machete if you're a wrong member
of the wrong tribe and she says oh yeah it may be 20 years later but you
see them everywhere Chris don't we need reminders of just how fragile
civilization is?
Oh absolutely You know, I actually don't really like to be reminded of this kind of stuff because, you know, as somebody who cares about justice in the world and cares to see bad people punished and good people saved, watching something like this is very frustrating because you just want to immediately fly to Africa and save all the decent people and take out all the bad people.
And it's a bit satisfying to watch Bruce Willis do it, but it's frustrating to know that this is a fiction and there are real people that are being brutalized in this way.
Horrifying that this sort of thing happens, but you're absolutely right.
It is very important to remember that this stuff does happen and open your eyes every once in a while.
So films like this are necessary.
You know, I've given this film a lot of flack for the things that I felt like it was missing, but let's talk a second about the great things about this because there are really great things.
And I think the best thing is that it is such a simple story.
This is something that I talk about with the 80s films quite a lot.
And this film does that really well.
It's such a good, simple story.
It's just this team that has to get these people out of a violent situation.
And they're really good at what they do.
And they encounter a few problems along the way.
But you know, what happens in the end, they do manage to save as many of them as they
They lose some of their own, but they make that sacrifice because it's the right thing to do.
And, you know, I was thinking a little bit about masculinity as I was watching this film.
And when they came up with this term toxic masculinity, they could have actually had something that resonated with people.
Because there is a kind of toxicity that occurs with some men sometimes when they get into groups.
And what is that?
That's that if you don't have some values, if you don't have some parameters within which you operate, The worst member of your group could easily end up taking over.
Yeah.
And he can say, you know what?
Let's do some kind of crappy things to people.
And the rest of the group kind of go along with it.
And before you know it, you're a bunch of, you know, real a-holes doing some really messed up stuff.
Right?
So you can get that within masculinity.
But you know what solves that?
Christianity.
Specifically Christianity.
Oh, hold that thought.
Hold that thought right here.
I want to focus on that.
Absolutely.
So glad.
Are you reading my notes again?
So glad you brought that up.
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guarantees or helps us to not become the bad person if we are strong, if we're masculine, that's our value system.
That moment, it's so quiet, but when they go into the village, That has been ransacked, the villagers, the women, the pregnant women murdered, and it's Doc, it's the medic I think, Chris, and you don't see this in movies anymore, who gives the last rites.
He's not a priest, but any Christian can give last rites, and he gives the last rites to that mother who he tried to save but is dying.
I think that's important as well.
Yeah, I mean, just the fact that they're willing to put God in a movie at all, any kind of spirituality that is not something exotic.
I mean, for some reason, Hollywood's fine with Islam.
They're fine with, you know, Buddhism or Hinduism or any other kind of, you know, ancestor worship, any kind of like exotic Religion that's not the European faith, you know, European Christianity, the religion of our ancestors.
That's verbose.
And you can't talk about that.
You can't bring that into cinema at all.
But in this film, they do it.
And I think it gives this film a little bit of a soul, which is something I think has been lacking since the 80s, maybe the early 90s.
Films used to be something that felt like You know, part of humanity.
And they don't really anymore.
But this film does have a little bit of that.
I think they specifically set the soldiers up, the seals, to be very cold and heartless at the beginning.
Yes.
And then after Bruce Willis decides, I'm going to try to do the right thing, then they start to flip and you start to see the humanity in these characters.
And I think that was kind of a smart thing to do.
I was going to mention before that You know, feminists like to paint everything masculine with the brush of toxic masculinity.
I think it ruins their message.
Because, like I say, they could have something there with that, but they've destroyed it by saying everything masculine is toxic.
And I look at the left and I look at feminism as essentially an anti-Christian movement.
And what is the one thing that can stop a man from becoming truly toxically masculine?
It's Christianity.
So if you really want to make the world less toxic, you want to... And I don't even like the term toxic masculinity at all.
Even if you're going to use it to talk about the evils that men do, why not just call it what it is?
Evil.
Evil.
And how do you stop evil?
You bring in good.
And what's the best way to bring in good?
In my view, it's Christianity.
So maybe stop fighting Christianity in America.
You want to stop bad men?
Then talk about evil, not bad men.
And to the broader point, you know, I was watching this movie with my muse, with Katie, and she doesn't do this, all right?
And she got on her phone halfway through the movie, and she doesn't do that.
And I asked her, what's going on?
And she said, it's too hard to watch.
Yeah.
And that's really important.
Why?
Because it may be fictional, but the things it portrays are very real, because they're happening right now.
And I just want to ask any feminist, and I challenge any feminist, if you want to stop people being massacred, women being raped and murdered, children being cut into small pieces, then who's going to do it?
Is it going to be you?
Is it going to be a fictional Demi Moore as the first female SEAL?
No, it's going to be rough men.
Rough men who have a Christian value system and who apply violence when it is needed to neutralize evil.
And again, I think that's important when it comes to analyzing movies of this sort.
It's a wake-up call, and we forget the modern age civilization It's so new, Chris.
The nature rent, you know, red in tooth and claw.
That's the history of humankind, Chris.
And we need to be remembered of it again, and again, and again.
And of the rough men who are prepared to go into harm's way to protect the walls of civilization.
Yeah, exactly right.
And I think this film depicts those men correctly.
Because they're not necessarily polite.
No.
You know, he lies to her to get her on this helicopter, right?
He does, he's not necessarily doing the quote-unquote right thing all the time because you're not, you're in a situation where you can't.
Right.
You have to do just what needs to be done and that may not seem to a civilized society to be Ethical, but it really is ethical because he's trying to do the right thing and he does end up doing the right thing.
You know, even if he loses some of his men, that's what he feels like is the right thing to do.
And the thing is, like I say, you can have groups of men like this who do the wrong thing.
So in order to get groups of men like this who will do the right thing, you have to have, I believe, A faith-based society, a Christian society, and I think we're losing that in America.
But if you want to bring that back, you've got to bring back the church-going Christians, and then you will get men like this who do the right thing when they have to.
The history of mankind is a history of warfare.
The right application of violence only occurs if you have a Christian value system.
It is the North Star.
And that's why I think this is a movie everyone should watch.
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The closing scenes of the movie Tears of the Sun with Bruce Willis and Monica Bellucci.
I want to go back to a topic you said, or a comment you made, Chris, that it's not a convoluted story.
It's a simple story.
It's a rescue mission.
Nothing more, nothing less.
But if you go back to the stories that work, the hero's journey, Joseph Campbell, the greatest stories are the stories of the simple, undeniable truth of humanity.
And I just want to compare this.
Last night, it took us three nights to actually finish it because it was so challenging.
We saw Russell Crowe's new movie, Sleeping Dogs.
Have you seen this new movie?
No, no.
Don't bother.
A. Russell Crowe.
Russell Crowe who could have played me in the movie of my life if he'd gone on PHD.
He's like 400 pounds now.
This movie, he's huge.
He's got this belly that like walks in front of him.
It's like his entourage is his belly.
And this movie was so So convoluted.
I couldn't tell you at the end who was the bad guy, who wasn't.
You know, there was this reveal at the end that should have shocked you but didn't.
Chris, why do they overthink things so much?
You're a scriptwriter, you're an actor.
Isn't it the simple... I mean, look at Casablanca, look at the great stories.
It's love, it's sacrifice, it's saving the other, it's the rites of passage.
Why do they always go for these over-complicated stories?
Well, you know, I have a tendency to over-complicate my own stories sometimes, or I used to when I was younger.
And I think that this is an impulse to kind of explore, you know, these You know, explore your own intelligence, right?
If you're an intelligent writer, you want to complicate it so that you can kind of explore this cobweb of a narrative.
I also think sometimes people feel like, well, if I make it complicated, people will think that it's interesting, you know?
You're trying to show off is what you're saying.
Exactly.
Exactly.
You're trying to show off your IQ and you're trying to have fun while you're writing it.
And, you know, at the end of the day, sometimes you just need to calm down, take a breath.
Uh, I don't know if you, have you ever heard, if you ever like really listens to Elon Musk speak, the guy's IQ is so high that he stumbles over his own words, trying to express an idea that he has because his brain is working faster than his mouth can talk.
Uh, and I think that there's a, like a time when this happens to all of us, right?
Like in college or something when, you know, you're thinking about a lot of stuff and, and this happens and you have to tell yourself, okay, Speak more slowly.
Speak more clearly.
Communicate with this person.
Don't just get so excited that you're stumbling over yourself.
And, you know, that's part of maturing.
That's part of getting older.
And you learn to slow down and calm down and relax and be, you know, less weird socially, you know.
Not everybody does that.
But the same thing can happen, I think, with art.
The same thing can happen with any kind of job.
Sometimes you've just got to slow down, simplify, and do it right.
And I think they did it right in this film, with some exceptions, some things I would fix.
But you're right.
In a lot of the modern pictures, they're overcomplicating things these days.
What did Robert Ebert think about the movie when it came out?
Just a short quote.
He gave it three stars out of four and said, quote, Tears of the Sun is a film constructed out of rain, Cinematography and the face of Bruce Willis.
These materials are sufficient to build a film almost as good as if there had been a better screenplay.
Damning with fake praise, damning with fake praise.
Maybe that's the reason that it cost a hundred million dollars and only grossed 86 million.
So it actually lost money in the box office as it was released.
I have to say, for everything we've criticized of this movie, I I like it beyond the philosophical for the fact that it just made me love the U.S.
military all the more.
Just the idea that there are men today, as we speak, there are men today who are prepared to do missions like this, to go in harm's way to rescue strangers.
It's actually based on a real mission.
By the Canadians in Colombia.
So the fact that these men exist, we salute them.
And just at the end, it might have been on the nose for some, but to end the movie on the famous Edmund Burke quote, that all that is required for evil to win is that good men do nothing.
God bless Anton Fuqua, the beautiful Monica Bellucci, the great Bruce Willis, who is in our prayers because of his suffering today.
All that is left for us to do is to rate it for a modern audience, for the canon of all movies.
We have to, as always, pick a unit of measure out of ten.
Since it was not filmed in Nigeria, since it was filmed in Hawaii, you have the choice as an honorary Hawaiian.
We will rate it out of fruit.
Which fruit shall we use from Hawaii?
The papaya, the guava, the banana, or the pineapple?
Which is your favorite, Chris Coles?
Oh, I think I like the guava, but let's do the coconut.
I like to take the coconuts and ripping them open with my bare hands.
Wow.
I do that every time I go to Hawaii.
I find one, I crack it open.
Is that why you like Kamala so much?
Because of the coconut tree comments?
The coconut tree.
I love Kamala.
She's amazing.
You've got to see his latest Kamala parodies.
He's going to have one with Liz Warren.
It's all on Mr. Reagan.
OK, we're going to do coconuts out of 10.
Tears of the Sun.
What do you rate it for a modern audience, Chris?
I rate these for a modern audience.
Now, this is a modern film, so I think it won't be difficult for a modern audience to watch it.
But I will say it is a difficult film to watch.
I mean, it's a hard film to watch.
It's a powerful movie, but it's a difficult one to watch.
Look, I do think everyone should see this film.
As brutal as it is, maybe not children, of course, but, you know, if you're of drinking age, you should watch this film.
You should see the brutality that exists in the world and you should see men stop that brutality and do the right thing.
I think it's an excellent film.
I do think it's a film a lot of people will have difficulty watching, but I don't know.
It's a tough one.
I would say I'm going to give it a, it's kind of a brutal rating, but I think it's gonna be tough for a lot of people to watch.
I'm gonna give it a seven out of 10.
All right, all right.
That's more than I thought.
The themes of the movie are important.
Not the most amazing movie in the canon, but the themes make him important.
I'm gonna give it...
I'm going to give it a six.
I'm going to give it a six.
In the canon of movies, seven for the modern audience, six for the canon of movies.
But we do recommend you see it.
Yes.
Yeah, it's not easy.
Maybe your wife, your girlfriend will have trouble with it, but it is a film that we can wholeheartedly recommend.
Okay, so we're going to do something a little bit different for the next program, because we're opening the aperture.
We've done some classics, but we have a good friend of the show, one of the smartest human beings I know, the great Rich Mineta, who said, there's some great movies that have been forgotten from an earlier age, and I'd like to review them with you.
So we're going to have Rich in studio.
Next week, you get to keep your choice for the week after, Chris.
We're not going to gazump you.
We're not going to get in front of your choice.
But he says the original Tyrone Power, Mark of Zorro from the 1940s, has a lot to teach us for the modern era.
And Chris, I think we just have to review the Mark of Zorro, because is there an actor with a cooler name than Tyrone Power?
No.
And there's an old man once that came up to me on like a park bench.
I don't remember exactly.
And he goes, you know, you look exactly like Tyrone Power.
Do we believe that story?
I'll take it.
We will rate that out of 10 for credibility next week.
The Mark of Zorro is... But there's so many Zorro movies out there.
It's The Mark of Zorro, Tyrone Powers.
Prepare for next week.
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