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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: The Obamas are back

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	For the most part, you can't shut them down, and you can't shoot them down.
	They're going at levels of speed that nobody thought was possible.
	Do you know, that was our technology that was stolen by Russia.
	And Russia has them, and I started them very quickly.
	But somebody gave Russia, years ago, before me, all of our Plans and specs for hypersonic missiles, and they built them, and we didn't.
	He said, Bill Clinton.
	It could be.
	Might have been, in all fairness, might have been a little after Bill Clinton.
	I used to like Bill Clinton, can you believe it?
	It could have been Barack Hussein Obama, perhaps we should ask him.
	Now, he was very nasty last night.
	I try and be nice to people, you know?
	But it's a little tough when they get personal.
	Please, again, remember.
	Please, sir, don't get personal.
	Talk about policy.
	Let me ask you about that.
	We're going to do a free poll.
	Here are the two questions.
	Should I get personal?
	Should I not get personal?
	Ready?
	Should I get personal?
	Should I not get personal?
	I don't know, my advisors are fired.
	Oh my gosh, that's President Trump live now in Asheboro, North Carolina.
	Jeff, what we've been debating for two weeks now, I think we got the answer right.
	Is he going to get personal for the last 76 days?
	I think Corey's back too.
	Let Trump be Trump, is that what he said?
	Yes, let Trump be Trump.
	Corey Lewandowski back running the campaign for the president as he did back in 2016.
	Welcome dear friends.
	We wanted to pipe that in live for you.
	The president, let me just, he mentioned what Obama said last night.
	We'll talk about that from the convention and I just want to share this with you.
	As we were prepping for this show, as this came on live, first things first, I don't know if you're watching it or you can see the image, President Trump is giving his first open-air rally since being shot in Butler, Pennsylvania.
	And they have him standing, I mean it's crystal clear so you can't really tell until you see the edges, he's standing behind a sheet of bulletproof glass.
	Okay?
	So that's where we are today.
	The President of the United States, my former boss, the 45th, and God willing, if we do our part, the 47th President, has to stand behind a bulletproof shield to give a speech.
	Okay?
	And then, about 10 minutes ago, somebody becomes poorly, faints or has some kind of issue.
	What does President Trump do?
	Think about this.
	He walks out from behind the bulletproof shield, into the crowd, calls for a doctor, makes sure this lady has water, and then bends down to hug her with no protection.
	Okay?
	That's President Trump.
	Name me one Democrat.
	Name me a rhino who'd do that, who's been shot, and then says, hang on, hang on, I've got a supporter here who's in trouble.
	Do we have a doctor in the house?
	And then goes out, risking his own life again, from behind the bulletproof shields, to hug and give that woman reassurance.
	Only Donald Trump.
	Okay.
	Is that Franco, our truck-driving buddy, just called in?
	If it is, we've got to talk to him.
	But first, a little juxtaposition, if I may.
	So, yesterday, it was the turn of the Obamas.
	And they attacked President Trump.
	Of course they did, especially Michelle.
	And then afterwards, we had Obama himself say, oh, we've got to come together.
	Let's give you a little clip to describe the difference between what we just witnessed moments ago in Asheboro, North Carolina, and who ran the country for eight years.
	Listen to Michelle Obama first.
	Cut 14.
	My mom, in her steady, quiet way, lived out that striving sense of hope every single day of her life.
	She believed that all children, all people, have value.
	That anyone can succeed if given the opportunity.
	She and my father didn't aspire to be wealthy.
	In fact, they were suspicious of folks who took more than they needed.
	They understood that it wasn't enough for their kids to thrive if everyone else around us was drowning.
	So my mother volunteered at the local school.
	She always looked out for the other kids.
	So, uh, my mama told me that, uh, you should always be suspicious of people who take more than they need.
	Uh, more than they need.
	Jeff, um, do you know how much money the Obamas make?
	Um, I know they bought what was a $16 million house in Martha's Vineyard?
	Well, that's just one of the houses.
	The house they bought in D.C.
	because they've never left D.C.
	in Kalarama was $8 million.
	So that's $16 plus $8.1 million.
	Um, any idea how much he made from his book deal and then how much they made from their Netflix deals?
	I'm pretty sure the book deal was either $30 or $45 and it took them about four years to do it.
	Close, close.
	$65 million.
	Okay, and then there's one more.
	The Netflix deal.
	Do you know how much they got for the Netflix deal?
	The Netflix, it was at least 40, if not more.
	Yeah, 80.
	So, 80 plus 60... Do you think that... Do they have enough for what they need?
	Do you think?
	Yeah, and she also mentioned not to be drowning.
	Didn't someone drown at their house too?
	The chef?
	The cook did?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I think they've got enough now for their needs.
	No, come on.
	I mean, come on.
	80 plus 60 million, is that enough?
	It's for their needs.
	140 million, that's about right for their lifestyle, I think.
	But for this year, maybe they need more next year.
	Oh, I'm sure they'll get money next year.
	I mean just utter, the contempt, just the, they just, I'm sorry 80, 60, 40, 20 million.
	Oh, and my mommy said, be suspicious of people who take more than they need.
	Just utter contempt for America.
	Utter, complete contempt.
	All right.
	He phoned in.
	Should I take a call?
	Franco, Iowa, line one!
	Hey, Dr. G!
	Hey, buddy!
	It's been too long.
	How you doing?
	I'm doing well.
	It's beautiful here in Minnesota.
	Beautiful.
	All right, tell us why you called in.
	Well, I used to be a medical assistant back in the early 90s, and I don't know why it didn't occur to me sooner, but we have a new logo for the Democrat Party.
	Besides the word and or an ampersand, you know, like people will use an N, like cookies and cream.
	Yeah.
	Well, if you look up D.N.C.
	or D.AN.C., there's a number of procedures that are underneath that term, but a D.N.C.
	is an abortion.
	The acronym?
	One of the acronyms for an abortion is D.N.C.?
	Yeah, it's Dilation and Puritage.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	So we need to tie their name to the thing they most like doing.
	That's what you're saying, Franco, right?
	Oh, definitely.
	Get the taco truck like Ilana mentioned yesterday, which cracked me up.
	The taco truck slash abortion vehicle.
	This is genius.
	Let me play with the idea.
	We have to tie these These people to the culture of death that they promote every single day, free abortions outside the DNC convention, free vasectomies.
	I said on Newsmax this morning, I said, you know what?
	I will pay for any vasectomy for a Democrat.
	If you're a Democrat and you don't want to have babies, Sebastian Gorka will pay for your vasectomy.
	Franco, stay on the line.
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	Now let's go back.
	He's still talking.
	Let's listen to President Trump in Asheboro, North Carolina.
	They emptied their mental institutions into our country, largely.
	Now, they're continuing to do it.
	But if you look at many of these countries that we're talking about, frankly, who can blame them?
	They're dropping their prisoners into the United States of America.
	They're dropping all of these people into the United States, including their mental institution people.
	Any terrorists they have, they're dropping them into the United States.
	We're taking hundreds of thousands of people that were in jail for murder.
	You take a look at Venezuela, their jails are half.
	And I'm surprised half, because frankly, I would have worked faster than that if I were running it.
	I would have had all of them out of there by now.
	For more information, visit www.FEMA.gov For more information, visit www.FEMA.gov
	For more information, visit www.FEMA.gov Allow them to do it.
	Do Republicans do what they do with the stuffing, the boxes, with all of the different things they do?
	Sir, we're proud Americans.
	And that's really the right thing to say.
	But they have no bounds.
	We have to win this election.
	If we don't win this election, we are in such trouble as a country.
	We're in trouble right now, but you have the right guy to straighten it out.
	I'll get it straightened out.
	I'll get it straightened out.
	We're going to have peace through strength all over the world like we had just a short while ago.
	And I just want to say, closing, it's an honor to have served for four years I wish we didn't have this break.
	The only thing good about the break is it shows how bad it can get, because we've never had a country that's been in shape like this country is in right now.
	We have squalor in our streets.
	Our vets are disregarded, living on sidewalks in freezing cold and unbelievably hot cities.
	All over the country, and yet we have people coming in to our country that are living in luxury hotels.
	This is what we have.
	We're going to straighten out our country through common sense.
	We're going to straighten out our country with the United States of America.
	We're the greatest country in the world.
	We're not going to let this continue to go.
	We're going to straighten it out.
	We're going to make it bigger, better, stronger than ever before.
	We're going to bring in business.
	Like, come in with the president, then I'll do truth.
	You gotta run the 10 seconds of music first, though.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Okay, fine.
	Alex, do that.
	And I have the yellow card.
	Okay, fine.
	Alex, do that.
	Right now, China is building massive oil plants in Mexico.
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	They're unbelievable what they can do, and he makes a great product.
	But I told him, I said, you know, before you endorse, you have to understand, we have to have gasoline propelled cars.
	Again, we have more liquid gold than anybody, anywhere in the world, more than Saudi Arabia, more than Russia.
	We have more than anybody.
	We're going to quadruple that business.
	We're going to be much bigger than both of them put together.
	We're going to pay down debt.
	We're going to reduce your taxes.
	I gave you the largest tax cut in history, the largest regulatory cut in history that created all of the jobs.
	And when Biden talks about jobs, by the way, because they lie so much, the jobs he created, almost all of them.
	Biden lying about the economy.
	That could be the perfect segue for my next guest.
	Did we plan that?
	Of course we did.
	President Trump is holding his rally just for me and our next guest.
	No, seriously.
	We're going to talk economics with a former member of the House.
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	All right, the call board is blowing up, so Frank, Nancy, Steve, don't, Chris, don't go anywhere, but let's talk about that Biden economy!
	And the lies being told, especially when it comes to the unemployment rate in America, by a man who we trust for his analysis of the economy, Liberty University's Professor Dave Brat, now newly minted Senior Vice President.
	Dave, welcome back to America First.
	Hey, thanks Seb.
	Great to be on.
	So, do you feel like you're living through a nightmare for the last three days as you listen to the DNC out of Chicago?
	What they're saying about the economy?
	It's like there's an alternate universe out there.
	Yeah, well, and the problem is they do get better and better and better at it, right?
	So in order to offset, you know, four wars that we're in currently, a couple of them have the potential of blowing sky high, going nuclear even, the economy is in shambles.
	We're living through another super bubble from the Fed printing so much money.
	Everybody on Wall Street will tell you we're in a bubble, right?
	Well, yeah, but there are some voices who would counter that.
	I mean, there's this woman called Yelling or Yelling or Yeller or something.
	Let's listen to what she just said like two weeks ago.
	Yeah.
	I think we've got a good strong economy.
	We've got very strong domestic demand.
	Consumers are holding up, some low-income consumers are perhaps exhausting their buffers of saving that they built up during the pandemic.
	We're seeing a little bit more distress at the household level there, but generally households are in very good financial shape.
	Our financial system is generally quite strong.
	So, you know, it leaves me speechless when the Secretary of the Treasury says that, you know, most households are in good financial standing.
	You know, you don't have to have a PhD in economics.
	You don't have to be a senior vice president at an accredited university to know that more than half Yeah, well, they are just detached, right?
	afford a $500 cash emergency. So what do you say to these people who say
	don't worry about inflation? Yeah well they are just detached right we've lost
	you've lost 20% of your dollar in just the last four years 40% of your money
	you've lost over the past 50 years Another way of saying that is the government took 20 years of your life away from you out of the past 50, right?
	So if you're at retirement age, the government stripped you of 20 years of your wages.
	Just due to inflation, to the loss of the purchasing power of the dollar.
	Everybody at home knows what it means.
	When they hear that, it rings totally hollow.
	What she said is there's demand.
	Of course there's demand.
	The Federal Reserve just printed $9 trillion and we're running $2 trillion deficits.
	What there's not is supply, which is the business side.
	President Trump, you just heard him, he gave the biggest tax cuts.
	And he gave deregulation on the supply side that makes everything.
	That's the difference.
	That's the fundamental difference between the two votes you're going to cast.
	Coming up, one wants to enhance business, the other one wants to tear business down.
	And VP Harris, Kamala, the other day, she put in price controls, right?
	If you think the globalists are in charge now, price controls, there's only one thing.
	This is a little, you know, wonky, but there's one thing that made us rich, and it's the free market system.
	The whole world made $500 a year for all of human history.
	Go fact, check that one.
	And as soon as we introduced the market system in about 1700, wham!
	Just a hockey stick straight up into the air with economic growth and riches we couldn't imagine.
	Now Kamala, the real giveaway was when she said she wants to do price gauges.
	She wants to deal with price gauging.
	She read the teleprompter and stuttered on that.
	It's price gouging.
	She didn't know what she was saying.
	And her economic advisors, who are also Senator Warren economic advisors, for real.
	When I heard that, I couldn't believe that.
	One of the most left-wing senators, and it's her team advising Kamala Harris?
	Yep.
	And then it begs the bigger question, who's running the country?
	With Biden, everybody wants to know who's running the country.
	And now Kamala, I mean, she won't go in front of a microphone.
	She goofed up that you've run inflation clips.
	She doesn't know what it is.
	Seriously.
	I mean, she cannot say she says it's I think it has to do with rising bread prices.
	But this is the globalists, right?
	They own our government right now.
	And getting rid of the price system, right?
	Try and do command and control from the communist heights with prices.
	If you want to destroy this country in short, short run, that right there is the most damage you could do to the US of A, beyond anything imaginable in economics.
	And so that's your choice coming up.
	It's central planning from on high.
	You're living it out right now, right?
	You can't take the kids out to eat.
	You go out to eat now for a family of four, it's a hundred bucks, and you're just scratching your head.
	What has gone wrong?
	And you're working two to three jobs to pay the bills.
	All the new jobs over the past four years have gone to foreign-born workers.
	That's not a typo, that's just the facts.
	Go to Zero Hedge, look it up.
	All the jobs go to healthcare and government workers, where the productivity is zero.
	So, the long-term prognosis for your kids is a disaster.
	And all political views are my own always, but President Trump, we had peace and prosperity four years ago.
	Just common sense shows you how to vote.
	It's amazing what happens when you actually have a successful businessman as the President.
	We're talking to the Senior Vice President of Liberty University.
	The conversation will continue, but in the meantime, make sure you're following him on Getter at Prrrrat Economics, that's with one T, and liberty.edu.
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	Hello from yesterday Oh, it's from yesterday?
	Yeah.
	Okay, give me a second.
	Jeff, you there?
	Which one did you want?
	The shorter one?
	The shorter one.
	Her economic plan.
	The 31 second one.
	Second or something.
	Go ahead.
	Zucassio.
	Go ahead.
	So grandmothers... Hold on, what?
	Number two.
	All right.
	So grandmothers get put in prison for praying on January the 6th, but hashtag, but at Nick Fuentes, whatever his, his thing is, at Nick Fuentes, um, is caught on camera inciting violence and he's not even charged by the feds.
	Question mark.
	Next line.
	I guess he must be working for them.
	Four.
	One of the most repugnant people in politics, JB Pritzker, says he's a real billionaire, unlike President Trump.
	Do you know where he got his money from?
	hint he didn't earn it.
	The lamest um... line
	from the WACO DNC convention in Chicago question mark
	uh-uh.
	Bye.
	Barack Obama on President Trump and leaf blowers.
	2014, were you so touched by Michelle's story of her mother saying don't trust people who
	take more than they need?
	Thank you.
	Bye.
	question mark. I wonder if her husband's 65 million dollar book deal, comma, their...
	Let me check the number again.
	There's only two of us.
	Yeah, it's the shorter one.
	Yeah.
	Can I test real quick just to make sure this is the cover?
	Test it, go ahead.
	That's it.
	We know that there's a great return on investment.
	When we increase homeownership in America, what that means in terms of increasing the tax base, not to mention property tax base, what that does to fund schools.
	Again, return on investment.
	That's it, that's it.
	Stop it, stop it.
	Enough.
	Enough.
	You said you want to come in with it?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	Pillow at the top, right?
	Yeah.
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	He mentioned this strange economics philosophy and loaves of bread, but maybe you dear listeners are smarter than the Senior Vice President at Liberty U or me.
	I've only got a PhD in political science, but let's listen to the Democrat nominee and how she explains fixing the economy that I guess she helped to create.
	We know that there's a great return on investment.
	When we increase homeownership in America, what that means in terms of increasing the tax base, not to mention property tax base, what that does to fund schools, again, return on investment.
	I think it's a mistake for any person who talks about public policy to not critically evaluate how you measure the return on investment.
	When you are strengthening neighborhoods, strengthening communities, and in particular the economy of those communities, and investing in a broad-based economy, Everybody benefits and it pays for itself in that way.
	I don't know if we can do anything with that.
	Dave Brat, she said return of an investment three times.
	And then she said you build more homes.
	Who's going to build those?
	So you can tax people more.
	Is that what's going to fix the economy?
	I'm not sure that's how it works.
	Yeah, well, Zeb, this is why you had me on right here, because I have a triple bank shot for you that aligns everything in that universe right there.
	Let's go through this real slow.
	First of all, she says, when we do this, the we is the federal government, right?
	So whenever anyone promises the we, run for the hills.
	OK, so she says, we're going to invest in housing and the great rate of return on housing and all this kind of thing.
	And she has, here's the triple bank shot, huge ties to China.
	Her father was a Marxist economist.
	Her VP, Waltz, has gone to China 30 times, extensive ties.
	And of course, the Biden White House, this week in the Comer Committee, the Biden family has received over $30 million from China and several other countries in corruption.
	How do you connect all these dots?
	China is going bankrupt right now because we, the Communist Party, invested way too much in—wait for it—housing, and so they're going bankrupt.
	When individual agents don't do what's in their best interest, we've got plenty of demand, right?
	She's just going to give everybody more money.
	The supply curve for housing is vertical.
	It hasn't gone up, right?
	You need to invest in the supply side.
	So what she's going to do is going to lead us into the same predicament China is in right now.
	They're starting to have riots in China.
	The growth rate went from 10 to 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
	It could be going negative.
	If we pursue all of these government projects she's proposing and get rid of the price system where the people are in charge.
	We the people are in charge, not we the federal government.
	And if you go that route, it's guaranteed road to serfdom for you.
	Oh, I see what you did there, Road to Serfdom.
	That's a book you need to check out if you're not familiar with it.
	We only have a minute left.
	I have to ask you, how does this happen?
	I'm reading from the Postmillennial.
	How is it that the Bureau of Labor Statistics potentially got the unemployment and employment rate wrong under Biden by a million jobs, Dave?
	Yeah.
	Yep, same story.
	Central planning.
	Who owns your government?
	Who runs your government?
	When you got censored after COVID for mentioning COVID, right?
	And Twitter and DHS redefined tweets to be cyber events so that they would be covered legally under the DHS.
	And they could go after you.
	A hundred million of your tweets were censored.
	You've been censored, silenced.
	When you ask about elections like they did after 2016, the government comes after you.
	You just showed the nuns are getting in trouble.
	Every Communist Party, the first thing they go after, every revolution you can name—the French Revolution, Russian Revolution, Mao, China—they go after the church and religion first.
	What's the upshot?
	They're off by a million on the jobs?
	Of course they are.
	They're just making the news stories up for themselves so they can have a DNC platform and give a narrative they want to give.
	Half the American people don't pay any attention, and it sounds good, and they're going along with the theater and the cakes and the rhetoric Plato taught us 2,400 years ago.
	Beware of the rhetorician.
	Beware the poet.
	Use your head.
	Use reason.
	Zeb Gorka is the master.
	Oh, thank you kindly.
	And I think he has the Agora behind him and certain famous Greek philosophers on his wall.
	I recognize that from my years studying philosophy with the Jesuits.
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	14.
	Oh yeah, fourteen.
	Alright, I got the numbers now.
	Can you read what I told you?
	Were you so touched by Michelle Obama's story of her mother saying don't trust people who take more than they need?
	I wonder if her husband's $65 million book deal.
	By the way, wasn't that both their books?
	I don't know.
	uh... what one of the firm because there are sixty five million dollar book deal
	comma uh...
	sixty five million dollar net uh... and and netflix deal
	and twenty million dollar amazon uh... payout
	uh... are enough for uh... for that for for for that
	how much was the netflix Netflix was 20.
	Sorry, Netflix was 65 again.
	Okay.
	Amazon was 20.
	And then 17.
	Yep.
	I love it when at Don Lemon embarrasses himself by asking Trump voters,
	by asking black Americans who they're voting for.
	I mean you got a moment need titles for the monologue and for brat.
	Um, monologue.
	The true Donald Trump.
	Bye.
	Bratt.
	What's a good one for Bratt?
	Something about, like, Kamala's economy will pay for itself, question mark?
	Um.
	Maybe it's not hard enough.
	No, no.
	But that's a good start.
	Kamala... Kamala's utter economic ignorance.
	Alright, come in with something good.
	Um... Define good.
	Some more of the DNC.
	Like maybe, uh... Pritzker, maybe?
	Come in with 13.
	13.
	Or the I love her laugh's good.
	We'll do that with Jen.
	That's good.
	Preferences, Jeff?
	♪♪♪ I vote for Trump.
	I'll vote for Trump.
	I vote for Donald Trump.
	Me too!
	I vote for Trump.
	Who are you voting for in 2024?
	Trump too!
	And why is that, ma'am?
	He the best president ever.
	Has Barack Obama done anything for around here?
	No, he never did anything since he been in office.
	Yeah.
	And I'm glad he out.
	Trump the best.
	Barack Obama?
	I ain't got no message for him.
	I don't mess with Barack Obama.
	Nah, I'm a Trump supporter.
	Trump do more for black people and care more about black people.
	And Barack Obama ain't black.
	Just to let that be known.
	Barack Obama ain't black.
	I suppose if you're black, you're allowed to say that.
	His mother was white, though, I do recall.
	That was Benny Thompson?
	Johnson?
	Which is which one?
	Okay, Benny Johnson is the conservative content provider.
	Benny Thompson's the lunatic on Capitol Hill.
	I think that's in Chicago, interviewing black kids and adults as well.
	That's superb.
	Barack Obama isn't black.
	Well, let's listen to him.
	Trying to be funny.
	This is perhaps the weakest, most cringeworthy thing so far from the DNC in Chicago Cut 5.
	There's the childish nicknames, the crazy conspiracy theories, this weird obsession with crowd sizes.
	It just goes on and on and on.
	The other day I heard someone compare Trump to the neighbor who keeps running his leaf blower outside your window every minute of every day.
	Jeff, what does that even mean?
	That Donald Trump is the neighbor with the leaf blower that's running?
	What is that?
	I have no idea what he was talking about.
	Then he went a little bit longer on to it about it.
	It didn't make sense either.
	But I've added up the money, just those three deals.
	It's $180 million.
	You think you could get a good speechwriter for $180 million?
	You would think so, but he'd probably let the DNC pay for it, because that's his money.
	You know, that last night was all covered.
	Oh, okay, that's his money.
	Don't touch my money.
	All right, let's stay on this topic.
	Nancy, Philadelphia, line two.
	Oh, good afternoon, Dr. G. Hey.
	As an aside, the only thing Kamala really knows about ROI, which is return on investment, is that she's the ROI for her communist and terrorist investors.
	Okay, thank you.
	Is that your contribution?
	No, but in terms, I heard the clip of Michelle Obama's speech quoting her mother.
	So first, it's good to know that now they care about the old people, or they claim to, now that nobody on Social Security or fixed income who's getting crushed by inflation is going to vote for them.
	But primarily, when I heard Michelle say that her mother didn't trust those who take more than they need, I said to myself, well, since everything in Obama and the Democrats' world is about skin color, I took it to mean that her mother was referring to those horrible white people.
	I'm not sure you can extract that from what she said.
	I think she was just talking about money, but it doesn't really matter because this is a woman who's sitting on literally tens of millions of dollars, and she's a stinking hypocrite.
	Thank you, Nancy.
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	Staying on the topic of Michelle, Steve in California.
	Hey Sebastian.
	I got an idea for two ads.
	The first one, you run Michelle's speech, and on the front of it, you list all the wealth that they have, Biden has, and all the other high-polluting Democrats who think that they should give money to everybody, and we should give money to everybody, while they hoard it all.
	Bernie Sanders, all of them.
	And the second idea, and this kind of came from Charlie Kirk in the previous show, You know, their new banner is freedom.
	And he listed a whole bunch of freedoms that they want to take away.
	Yeah.
	We should just roll that banner on another one.
	I actually like that.
	We should run that in every battleground state.
	I actually like that.
	I like the first one especially because the figures really talk.
	Stay on the line, Eric.
	Let's give our friend Steve a signed copy of The War for America's Soul.
	That's actually excellent.
	I might work on a little ad or meme myself.
	Really good stuff.
	Waiting patiently in Philly.
	Line one.
	Frank!
	Hey, Sebastian.
	Hey, I just want to point out that, uh, uh, what is it?
	The DEI is basically, um, racism with a smile.
	I mean, they have never changed.
	The Democrats have always been what they are.
	It's just who they hate changes.
	They used to hate blacks.
	Now they hate white Christian men.
	Yeah.
	Or anybody who's not them.
	Right.
	Uh, and you know, um, what was the other one?
	Um, What's the book that was going around schools?
	The Mein Kampf, I call it, for black people.
	Oh, the Ibram X. Kendi, Don't Be a Racist, that one?
	Or White Fragility, 1619, which one?
	Oh, the one... I can't, you know, I've got a brain freeze, I'm so sorry.
	Or Ozin, The People's History of America.
	Which book?
	What kind of book are we talking about?
	The one that's been in classrooms, that they were teaching in schools, and it's basically from an African-American perspective, and basically blames everything on Whitey.
	Well, that's all of those.
	That's White Fragility, the 1619 Project, and Ibram X. Kendi's Don't Be a Racist.
	Yeah, yeah.
	What about them, Frank?
	Well, no, they're basically like the mind-cumper after America.
	No, that's good.
	No, that's absolutely great.
	Yeah, I love it.
	You, too, get a signed copy of The Wall from America's Soul.
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	you you
	.
	And if you wanted, uh, I also went ahead and got, uh, the cut I mentioned of Tucker talking, like, about Fuentes without naming him.
	Uh, you've got it?
	Uh, yeah, if you want to use it.
	Yeah, play it.
	Okay, let me grab it.
	We'll download it real quick.
	Call this cut 20.
	Go ahead.
	Can we just establish that anybody who screamed, let's storm the Capitol, I can think of two people who did, who was not arrested, didn't spend time in jail.
	Was defended by Democrats in the Congress.
	Yes.
	And he wasn't alone.
	There's another prominent person who did that as well, as I know you know.
	Didn't get arrested, didn't go to jail.
	I mean, what can we conclude from that?
	Trump supporters are the only people in this country that back the blue, but the blue does
	not back us, so we're done backing them!
	If the police...
	Instead of the MAGA movement, we're gonna start the MAMA movement.
	That is Make America Michigan and Minnesota Again.
	Eric, who was that and why does she think that's funny?
	That's Amy Klobuchar, the senator from Minnesota and one of the 500 Democrats who ran for president in 2020.
	Make America Minnesota?
	What, like have lots of jihadis running around?
	Is that her goal?
	Yeah, or make it as impoverished as, you know, some suburbs in Detroit, you know.
	They really are creepy.
	How did we get here?
	Katie's new book has all the receipts.
	Get it co-authored with Mike Gonzalez.
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	Let's go to Chris in Orlando.
	Hey, Dr. Gorka, former professional wrestler and Baptist minister now for 30 years and a big Trump fan and a huge Dr. Gorka fan.
	I appreciate it.
	I gotta get to some calls.
	What's your point, please, Chris?
	When they debate, you know Kamala is going to lie about her past and present.
	The media certainly isn't going to correct her or report correctly about her past.
	So when he says something and she says, I didn't say that or that's not true, he needs to be able to say, go to my website.
	I mean, he has nothing on his website to contradict the lies of Kamala.
	And I don't understand why he doesn't.
	I mean, there's so many clips.
	That low information voters have never seen.
	Yeah, it's an interesting idea, but low information voters are also lazy as well.
	And the idea that they're going to go to a website, I'm not sure that's the best way to deal with it.
	But thank you for the suggestion.
	Victor Silverspring.
	Sebastian, I'm in a much better mood today.
	Good, you sound much chirpier.
	One of my nurses asked me if I was a MAGA guy and I said yes and she said so am I. It's a relief to know there's somebody around here that thinks like me.
	And now the other nurses when they walk into the conservative zone in my room here at the rehab center, they're starting to ask me questions and I'm answering them.
	I think I got another two or three that I can turn over to the Trump camp.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	And what do you think is the common denominator?
	Is it the economy?
	Is it crime?
	Can you tell, Victor?
	One nurse told me she's afraid that Biden's going to take away her gas stove that she just bought.
	And another nurse said she does not want to be forced into an electric car.
	And another nurse asked me about why the incandescent light bulb was banned, and I told her that, and she says, well, my grandson has epilepsy, and looking at one of those curlicue light bulbs, or the LED light bulb, it flickered.
	It's awful, the fluorescent ones, yeah.
	It's one of the things that makes me the most angry, that we can't even buy The kind of light bulbs we want?
	Truly fascist.
	Glad you're in a better mood, Victor!
	All right, the old team, the OG team, is calling in.
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	you you
	It's pretty clear that the establishment doesn't like you, I would say.
	What do you think?
	Well, I think the people like me.
	Oh yeah, the people.
	We're leading now in all the polls.
	We're leading, and Rasmussen just came out a little while ago.
	Rasmussen's a very highly regarded poller.
	We're leading by five points.
	So we won in 2016, and then we did much better in 2020.
	Much better.
	Got millions and millions more votes.
	Why does the establishment keep trying to sink you?
	Like, what is it that they are so afraid of?
	They want to sell product that I'm not interested in.
	They want to have certain boats and certain ships and certain planes and certain everything bought.
	Pharma is another one that's, you know, interesting.
	Do they push back against you, you think?
	Yeah, I think it's pretty obvious that they do.
	In one way, that's a positive thing politically, because when you can show that they push back, the voters seem to like it.
	I recognize the host with the mullet.
	Not sure exactly who he is, but President Trump is giving fascinating interviews to new media outlets.
	Eric, who is that?
	Theo what?
	Theo Vaughn.
	V-O-N.
	He's a comedian and podcaster.
	Who used to do a lot of cocaine, right?
	Apparently that was brought up in the interview as well, as was a discussion on his struggles with alcoholism, which President Trump used to talk about.
	His own brother who passed away from alcoholism at a young age.
	Oh, there's a great cut of President Trump talking about his brother.
	You can find it on my social media account.
	But the policy of doing different kind of venues for interviews, what could it mean?
	Let's ask our resident expert in media and strategic communications.
	She keeps Los Angeles sane every morning.
	She's the co-host of something called the Happy Women podcast.
	Jennifer Horne, welcome back to America First.
	Thank you.
	So glad to be here.
	And I'm so glad that President Trump is doing all of those, I guess, non-traditional interviews.
	That's what he needs to be doing to get around this ridiculous news media.
	No, absolutely.
	And also when the ridiculous news media just puts their foot in it.
	It's a long cut, but I just got to play this because it just made my morning when I heard it.
	This is Don Lemon asking people about the cackler.
	Cut 17.
	How are you feeling about the election?
	I'm going for Trump.
	I feel like every time they don't want somebody who is good for us to win, they throw somebody black in our face, thinking that's gonna, like, make us vote for the black person.
	I voted for Obama because he was black.
	I don't want to vote for her because she's the first black woman to run for president or to win.
	I don't vote.
	Well, I want Donald Trump.
	I'm sorry, I want Donald Trump.
	Why do you apologize?
	Well, I know nobody likes him, but we had good times with Donald Trump.
	I'm running for Trump, so...
	You are?
	Yeah.
	Well, why?
	I don't know.
	I've just always been a fan of his.
	I used to be against Trump.
	I used to live in Virginia.
	I saw the bad side of it, but really moving to Cleveland, I saw the other side of it.
	I'm supporting Trump.
	You are?
	Because?
	Because it has to change.
	It has to change and now I vote more for what fits me better as a person rather than Voting for the black person, or voting for the first woman, so.
	What do you think about Kamala Harris?
	I'd like to say she phony and fake, you know what I'm saying?
	So, like, you know, I'm like Trump saying, you know, what are you, you know?
	So I just, I'm not feeling her.
	People get mad about her, I'm just not feeling her.
	I don't like her, her, her, the way she speaks, the giddiness, the laughing.
	Everything's a joke, and it's not a joke, we're in trouble.
	I'm going for Trump.
	Kamala was on Biden's team, and I don't like Biden.
	Gas wasn't this high when Trump was our president.
	Food wasn't this high.
	I'm going for Trump.
	I love that I'm not getting the vibes from Kamala.
	And I like that camouflage jumpsuit.
	I need a camouflage jumpsuit.
	Jen, the majority of the people Don Lamond was asking were black voters.
	Now, it's one thing that they're saying they're voting for Trump outside of identity politics, but tell me how significant you think it is that they're saying it publicly, on camera!
	I know.
	I think, I don't know if we talked about this last week or not, but I've been saying this for the last few weeks.
	Don't buy all the hype that the media is shoveling at you because they now have a candidate with the polls.
	I don't believe all of the polls that they're putting out there.
	And if you look at them, they're oversampling Democrats when they take the polls that have Kamala Harris up three or four or five points in some of the swing states and nationally.
	I think you have to look at the people and it's about turning those people that you just heard from out.
	What's going to get them out there?
	What's going to get them excited?
	It's going to take all of our hard work to do it.
	But I do think it's interesting when the media is talking about the polling now being in Kamala's favor.
	Do you know what they don't talk about?
	They don't talk about the identity polling that they used to love to love talking about.
	What's the identity polling?
	Like Latinos, like Latino voters.
	So they're looking at different voting blocs.
	So different people identity.
	Have you heard them give you a Latino poll lately?
	No.
	No.
	And that's because I looked it up and President Trump is still beating Kamala Harris with
	Latino voters.
	When it comes to black people, when it comes to black men particularly, but you heard from
	a lot of black women there, he's doing much better.
	He's up in the 20-25 percent range, which last time around I think he was at what, 10
	or 12 percent.
	You don't have to win the entire voting bloc.
	You just have to do better.
	And this is why the media isn't talking about it, because she hasn't caught on with the
	minority voters who are too smart to fall for these tricks.
	I heard a woman, and it might have been Don Lamond who was interviewing her, who said
	you can't trick us by putting Megan Thee Stallion on a stage.
	We still know the person who's been there for four years, who is not new, and we know
	what their policies bring.
	So you can't trick us with some of our favorite performers.
	We're not gonna just fall for that, and I think that's right.
	We need to break this down on my Newsmax show.
	Will you come on this week?
	Absolutely, let's do it!
	Alright, let's talk the truth about the polls and about who Kamala is.
	Let's talk about this news.
	This is from President Trump.
	I don't know if this is throwing the cat amongst the pigeons.
	A rather impromptu question from CNN concerning a certain Kennedy.
	This is Cut10.
	Play Cut.
	Can I ask you about RFK, because just moments ago his running mate said that they were considering endorsing you.
	Have you considered him for a role in the administration, and what role would that be?
	Well, we haven't, but I would love that endorsement, because I've always liked him.
	Would you also consider putting him in the administration?
	You're asking me a very unusual question.
	I haven't been asked that question yet.
	I like him a lot.
	I respect him a lot.
	I probably would, if something like that would happen.
	So you are a very seasoned political observer.
	Just moments ago, RFK Jr.
	announced he will be giving a special announcement on Friday on the... What was it, Eric?
	The path ahead?
	The road ahead, right?
	The path forward for his campaign.
	The path forward, okay, which means he's lost all his donors and he's going to close down the campaign.
	What do you think of this idea of who RFK endorses?
	Does it matter?
	Well, this morning, on The Morning Answer, we were chatting about it, and I said, look, Kennedy, I thought at the beginning of all this, when the media—and the media has done a lot to suppress his campaign and to really shut him down.
	The Democrats did it to him as well.
	I thought at the beginning he'd probably get about 9 percent of the vote.
	Now I think he'd be lucky to get 5 percent.
	So he knows he's not going to win, and he knows that he's probably now splitting more votes with Trump than he is with Kamala Harris.
	That 5%, if that's what we think he might get, is going to mean something to Trump.
	This race is going to be close.
	There's no way to try to fool yourself.
	This is always going to be close.
	We're in a hotly divided country.
	So this morning I said, wouldn't it be great?
	If Kennedy said that he was going to endorse Trump on Friday because Thursday evening is Kamala's speech, let's seal some headlines, right?
	Let's get these two out rallying together.
	Let's have Kennedy hit the trail for Trump and J.D.
	Vance.
	I think they should all be out there.
	We are in the final push now, less than 80 days away.
	We need to get everybody going.
	And look, find the commonality with Kennedy.
	Sure, when it comes to environmental stuff, way too liberal.
	When it comes to some of his other stuff, way too liberal.
	Obviously, it would be hysterical to put him in charge of health and human services.
	I doubt that will happen.
	But why not put him in charge of making him do something with free speech, oversee some of these big tech companies, make sure that we are getting a fair shake on all those social media platforms, and let Kennedy be in charge of that.
	I think that's where we can all find a commonality with the messaging.
	It's all about freedom of speech, and he's been an advocate for that.
	That's fascinating.
	What about somebody, a leader in the conservative movement said, President Trump has to deal with the whole vaccine thing.
	A lot of patriots are angry at him.
	Does bringing Kennedy on board, getting him to campaign for the president kind of defuse the whole vaccine butthurt?
	I think so.
	I mean, I think it can help anyway.
	And President Trump has never been in the mode for forced vaccinations.
	And that's the difference between President Trump and Joe Biden and the Democrats.
	The Democrats are still wearing their stupid masks.
	They're still bringing out the — they're still talking about vaccine and boosters.
	I just went to a doctor and they asked me if I wanted a booster.
	I said, absolutely not.
	There's nothing to boost.
	I didn't get a vaccine to begin with.
	I mean, they're still going down.
	This road.
	And I think what President Trump did was he tried in a chaotic time to get something that he thought would help.
	Now we know that it didn't, but he tried to give people a resource.
	It wasn't forced.
	That was the Democrats.
	That were the people in California that were trying to force that on us.
	That wasn't President Trump and it wasn't Republicans.
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	Who's that?
	RFK.
	He does such a lot.
	Oh, he sits back in his chair?
	He always does this.
	What's that about?
	I think because he's doing hot guy pose.
	Oh, hot?
	Oh, is that hot guy?
	Oh, I've got to practice my... Hang on, let me practice the hot guy.
	You know what I mean?
	Like a lean back swagger or something?
	Yeah.
	As he's manspreading, probably.
	Just like that.
	Exactly.
	You know what I'm talking about, Eric.
	The legs apart, the leaning back in the chair.
	How's he doing?
	I will say that photo of him really jacked at the gym, that did have some high energy to it.
	I'll say that.
	Yeah, because he's full of stinking steroids.
	You can't be 70 years old.
	That's a lot of testosterone.
	The memes write themselves, though.
	It's like he's got to drug this much of testosterone every morning.
	Oh, I forgot to say, I got a very good text from one of our listeners.
	I'll have to mention that live on air.
	I thought you were going to say Grant just called, so I'm just kidding.
	TMI!
	The mics are hot, by the way, Jen.
	I know, I would tell him that to his face.
	It's so funny, we laugh, actually.
	Around December, I think, last year, he went off his testosterone.
	He talks about this on the air.
	And I was like, oh my god, you have never been nicer.
	Like, this is great.
	And then back to it.
	It was very funny.
	Come in with 11 on testosterone.
	That's actually very good.
	Come in with 11.
	Very good.
	He swears by it.
	He loves it.
	The cordboard is full.
	What's going on?
	What happened to Adam Andrzejewski, by the way?
	Who?
	The guy from Open the Books.
	He died yesterday.
	No idea who you're talking about.
	Did you hear?
	Oh, you guys don't.
	I thought maybe you had him on.
	Well, I've heard of Open the Books, but I don't know.
	The guy that founded it, Adam Andrzejewski.
	Was he old?
	No.
	That's why I brought it up.
	He's like 54.
	How do you spell it?
	Oh, gosh.
	Hold on.
	It's not how it's... I've got it, Andrzejewski.
	I've got it.
	I've got it.
	Yeah.
	I thought he had been on here with you guys before.
	No, he looks young.
	He was great.
	He did... You know my little Newsome thing about following the money of Newsome?
	That was his work.
	Yeah, that was his thing.
	So do we know what happened?
	Don't know.
	His family didn't disclose anything yet.
	Wow.
	So sad.
	I don't think we've ever had him on.
	Alex says he was a guest on Jenna's show.
	On Jenna's show?
	Okay.
	Oh, there you go.
	Yeah, he was sad.
	It's just unusual because you didn't even hear that he was sick.
	One minute.
	Do we know?
	Oh, you said they haven't disclosed how he died yet, Jen.
	No one said anything.
	Alex is kind of mind blown over here.
	Why?
	He says he had him on Jenna's show a few weeks ago.
	Oh my gosh.
	55 years old.
	Alright, coming up 11.
	Gubernatorial candidate.
	He was?
	Oh, that I didn't know.
	Interesting.
	I'm not sure what that means.
	I'm not sure what that means.
	Yeah, look at the split screen, Nicole, between the Republican convention and this one so far.
	The Republican convention was a testosterone-laden grievance machine.
	You know, Trump coming out to the song, uh, Men Rule the World.
	And, you know, Hulk Hogan ripping off his shirt.
	And, you know, it was just ridiculous.
	It's like women don't have the right to vote.
	I wish you didn't have the right to vote, Claire McCaskill, honestly.
	Jen, why are Democrat women just... Why are conservative women hotter?
	I mean, just seriously, and actually have brains?
	I'm just going to tell you right now, I've been so insulted watching this convention, and I have.
	I think I told you, the DNC, I've watched the last two nights, and for extra insult to injury, I've been trying to watch some of it on MSNBC just to get the full experience.
	A couple of things I'm insulted by.
	First of all, to have vasectomies and abortions being done in front of the clinic and then handing out free food afterwards like it's some sort of celebratory thing.
	I won't even tell you.
	You can imagine what kind of free food they're handing out.
	I mean, it's just sick.
	It used to be like you get a tote bag when you went to a convention, not a life-changing, life-altering procedure.
	Life-taking.
	Life-taking procedure.
	So that's number one.
	That's fully insulting.
	Also, I'm insulted by all of these women who are coming out on stage and saying that I don't have any reproductive freedoms.
	First of all, what is reproductive freedom?
	Because I think that I do.
	I can have a baby.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	You live in California?
	Yeah.
	And the Republicans haven't taken away your reproductive rights, Jennifer Horne?
	It's amazing, right?
	I mean, I am so glad these Democrats are there fighting for it.
	But what does it mean?
	They're trying to package and brand air to people.
	They're making it seem like they're putting in mandatory chastity belts in red states around the country.
	I mean, this is not the case.
	We can still vote.
	We can still Let's say what we want.
	God knows, looking at the convention, we can wear what we want.
	Have you seen some of the get-ups around the Democrat convention?
	Holy smokes.
	So what are we doing?
	Why are we lying to women?
	Why aren't we focusing on real issues that are really important to people?
	And the answer is, they can't.
	Their policies are all over the place.
	They are totally not popular.
	They're tied to Joe Biden, who's also not popular.
	And so all they do is gin up this weird storyline about reproductive freedoms.
	And joy, by the way.
	That was the other big thing that you're seeing a lot of.
	That if you want to be joyful, you'll vote for Kamala Harris.
	Give me a break.
	Well, don't forget, don't forget, don't forget, you gotta love a cackle as well.
	This is Doug Emhoff on his wife's peculiar laugh.
	Cut it.
	But that's when she called me back.
	And we talked for an hour.
	And we laughed.
	Well, you know that laugh.
	I love that laugh!
	Yeah, and the seals clap.
	We love the cackle.
	We love the cackle.
	All right, let's talk about my former boss.
	Now, I apologize.
	Well, I don't apologize, because I asked people who were born in America, my colleagues here, and they had no idea either, and they had to look it up.
	Do you know what's the nasty fact about, what was it, Howell, the town of Howell?
	In what state was the president in, Eric?
	Where was he?
	I believe that is Michigan.
	Michigan.
	So did you know the dark history of Howell, Michigan?
	I have not heard about the dark history of Howell, Michigan.
	What happened?
	So President Trump is with these firefighters, these law enforcement people yesterday giving a speech.
	He gave one today in the town where your mom grew up in North Carolina.
	So he's in Howell yesterday.
	And you won't hear the question from the reporter because she's not on the mic, but oh my gosh, was this the consummate lesson in how to slap down the propaganda prostitutes of the mainstream media?
	So this woman Asks, are you ashamed?
	Do you have any problem with coming to a town that's associated with white supremacy?
	So what is this?
	I thought it was Charlottesville was that was the whatever.
	Turns out, Jen, so this is your lesson for the day.
	Howell, Michigan is considered the home of the KKK.
	Right?
	So, news, okay?
	Breaking news.
	Didn't know.
	So, you didn't know, but President Trump, oh my word, his slapdown was epic.
	This was yesterday.
	they cut twelve.
	Thank you.
	Never planned.
	Who was here in 2021?
	Nobody.
	Thank you.
	Thank you everybody.
	So the reporter, freeze it, freeze it, put it back up and freeze it as B-roll because
	the text is up on the screen for those who are watching us.
	So the reporter from the back of the fire station or whatever shouts, what is your response to the Kamala Harris campaign attacking you for being in Howell, Michigan because of its association with white supremacy?
	Trump walks back to the podium and says, Who was here in 2021?
	And the reporter actually fesses up, uh, uh, uh, Joe Biden.
	And then the president says with this massive grin, thank you!
	You know, point, shots fired, man down.
	This is the guy who they're trying to tell us, slurring, and isn't compass mentis.
	I don't even know what Howell, Michigan is famous for.
	And he knows that Joe Biden was there three years in and goes, He has to be, and he was so amazing, like gleefully with his arm up in the air when he's like, gotcha, you gave me the answer I wanted.
	This is, he must, first of all, we know that President Trump is extremely smart, and we know he knows how to handle the media.
	But how does he know that Biden was there three years ago?
	You know, maybe somebody said, hey, you know, who was here the last time we had a presidential visit?
	He got it.
	But you know what?
	He must be so tired of everybody coming at him.
	That was the other thing with the convention, is that they're talking about how he's there to just benefit himself and prop himself up and make himself a fortune.
	Give me a break.
	He's lost money.
	He's spent all of his time in court.
	He's had his home taken apart by the FBI and he's been shot in the face.
	You think this is somebody who is just doing this for their own benefit?
	No, this is someone who is deeply willing to sacrifice himself for this country and nobody on the Democrat side will respect it because they are frightened of him.
	They are scared.
	Yeah.
	Totally, beautifully done, beautifully done.
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	If three years ago...
	Boom.
	It's like... It was pretty amazing.
	What a good takedown.
	Oh my gosh.
	And the fact that she was such a cretin that she actually gave him the answer.
	It was Biden.
	Sorry.
	I'm liking that he's starting to ask the questions.
	He did it with Theo Vaughn.
	He's doing it with her.
	You know, he turns it around instead of just answering.
	It's so good.
	All right, you guys.
	Well, have a great rest of the day.
	I will talk to you tomorrow.
	Talk to you tomorrow.
	All right.
	Bye.
	Alrighty, title for that one?
	Um...
	...
	The ultimate media take...
	Trump's ultimate media take down.
	...
	Can you block the lines?
	Yeah, pillow at the top here.
	Pillow at the top.
	And we've got army, um... Footage, yeah.
	It's super short, so I'll just play it over and over again.
	Alright.
	I'll do, uh, Fuente... Oh no, I gotta do Coulter, I guess.
	This is C. Um... How long is Patriot at the top of A?
	You should take 5.
	So, what do you do, Alex?
	Did we do that Patriot at the top of A?
	We didn't.
	Alright.
	I'll do it here instead of my pillar.
	Okay.
	Uh, 5?
	On the air or in the break?
	Oh, good.
	Alright.
	Alright, I'll do Patriot Mobile here.
	Okay.
	Maybe save Fuentes for E?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Can you come in with?
	Come in with 4.
	And then I want Jeff to react to it.
	Alright.
	Oh yeah, 4 is great too.
	You meant, you said five, right, Jeff?
	Yeah, they're both good, but five is just- Yeah, four is exactly what I was thinking.
	There's no way they made- I was trying to- I know.
	There's no way they made money on that.
	Especially because of what they have to pay the retail store takes.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Unless they sell it to every high school library and everything, public library, that's what I was thinking.
	Well, the unions, right?
	They forced the unions to buy it.
	Have you got the cut from Jordan?
	That I texted you, Geoff?
	Yeah.
	Oh, the fan?
	Yeah, I have it.
	Yeah, that'll be cut 19, right?
	Yeah, okay Okay.
	Is it actually ready?
	Yeah, I have it.
	You wanna hear it real quick?
	Uh, no, I'll come in, I'll use it with Army.
	Oh, okay.
	Coming in with four.
	One minute.
	.
	During COVID, we supported small businesses and jobs.
	And Donald?
	Well, Donald told us to inject bleach.
	Donald Trump thinks that we should trust him on the economy, because he claims to be very rich.
	but take it from an actual billionaire.
	Trump is rich in only one thing.
	Stupidity!
	Jeff, who is that?
	That's, uh, billionaire J.B.
	Pritzker.
	He's rich in cholesterol, right?
	Yeah, he's kind of like the Democrat version of Chris Christie.
	But hang on, he...
	Isn't his name Hyatt?
	Because he built the empire, right?
	No, that was not only his, not his father, it was his grandfather that built it.
	Hang on, you mean he didn't make his money?
	No, not at all.
	So he's like a trust fund kid?
	No, he had a couple jobs.
	He was a staffer for a little bit out of college for the Democrats.
	Are you kidding me?
	Yeah, that's the one job he's had.
	So he's the self-made billionaire, but President Trump isn't?
	Yeah, he must have really invested that staff money well back in the 80s.
	Wow, just like Hillary and those cattle futures, right?
	Wow, wow, wow.
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	All right, let's go to George in California with a question.
	I was wondering myself after I gave you those figures.
	Good day, Dr. Gorka.
	Yes, hi.
	May I make a quick book recommendation?
	Book?
	Yeah, sure.
	It's called The Unvanquished by Patrick K. O'Donnell.
	OK.
	And it's a Civil War book.
	OK.
	And it pretty much points out that the Democrat strategy hasn't really changed since back then.
	It's very, very interesting.
	But my question was, J.K.
	Rowling She finally got her books published.
	Kids were reading it.
	Adults were reading it.
	They became very profitable movies.
	Who bought Obama's book?
	I didn't see anybody at work.
	I mean, I work with adults reading his book, but they were talking about The Harry Potter.
	I mean, these were adults reading Harry Potter books.
	No, no, but the point, the more explicit point is, how does the publisher who pays Obama $65 million actually recoup even the costs?
	How many books do you have to sell, George?
	It's a scam!
	It's just giving Obama money and an excuse because that's the way the left works.
	Superb question.
	Thank you, George.
	Let's go to line 5, Joe in L.A.
	Hello, how are you doing?
	Sebastian, there's an issue that the Democrats claim to be the masters of the environment, because if they spend a trillion dollars, they can lower the temperature one degree when it changes 100 degrees around here in California every year.
	But never mind that.
	The fact is, Trump is the real environmental president, and I'm going to tell you why.
	Two reasons.
	One, Whether you care about the so-called climate change or not, when Trump left office, our carbon output and our carbon footprint was down 2%, which is lower than any other industrial trade bloc.
	The European Union's output was up 4%, those hypocrites in Europe.
	Their carbon footprint is up 4%, too.
	Right now, we are using high, dirty, high-sulfur fuels from third-world countries.
	Or, shall we say, third-world countries that don't care about their labor laws.
	They don't have good labor laws.
	They don't care about who's doing the work.
	They don't care about the refinement.
	They don't care about the processing.
	And they're making a giant environmental mess.
	Yeah.
	and they're making our skies darker and dirtier trump never mentions this and i well i was hoping that you
	could get somebody on his team it is rallies
	to remind people that because there are democrats yeah there are people that are
	bleeding both ways that they are concerned about the environment and we need to
	remind them the trump's the only one who actually did something about that that's
	actually a good point i might have to uh...
	can you stay on the line joe and just give all those details again to jeff
	because I will forward them to the campaign because that is a good idea.
	And just one of the most trenchant, I remember from my time in the White House, I was so proud when President Trump pulled us out of the Paris Climate Accords.
	By the end of the administration, we were actually exceeding The requirements of the Paris Accords by ourselves but weren't tied into supporting the real emitters like China and Russia.
	So great point, Joe.
	I love it.
	Stay on the line and Jeff will take those main details that we need to remind people of.
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	Oh, that's bold.
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	Yeah, that's it.
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	Alright, Jordan, then I'll do Peachy, then I'll go to Ami.
	Yep.
	Alright, let's do that.
	Good morning, awesome and amazing patriots.
	So, Kamala finally answered a few questions from the press and we all know how that went.
	And now she's chickening out of the debate with President Trump.
	Weren't they previously calling him the coward?
	I think we know who's the true coward now.
	President Trump agreed to three debates and Kamala is now running scared.
	What are you afraid of, Kamala?
	President Trump 2024.
	I love and appreciate you all.
	High schooler Jordan listed to the show asking a very serious question.
	What are you hiding from Kamala?
	You said President Trump's the coward?
	Well, you're not going to debate President Trump.
	Why are you hiding?
	Are you going to be in Biden's basement?
	Follow that young lady.
	She's superb.
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	okay there I was waiting to go on Newsmax last night just scrolling on on Twitter
	and I see this footage posted by somebody I didn't know of a figure just taking it to the Palestinian
	pro-Hamas lunatics in Chicago and he was on fire and I thought, I recognize that guy.
	That's a buddy of mine.
	I reposted the video with his name.
	Army Horowitz, great American and a proud Jew, and he's on the line right now.
	Guerrilla journalist par excellence.
	Army, are you safe?
	What happened last night?
	Will you walk us through it?
	Yeah, I am totally fine.
	Thank you very much for asking.
	And look, there's always a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
	I think that was an example of crossing way over the line into stupidity.
	But that's for another time.
	For those who aren't watching, you've got police behind you, not protecting you.
	And then what happened?
	Who are the people in the masks wearing the keffiyehs?
	So every day at the DNC there was one huge pro-Hamas rally that was set up in advance.
	So for example, the day before they went to a place called Union Park, and then today it was called for 7 o'clock in front of the Israeli consulate.
	So everybody who's involved knows where to be, and this is the one main gathering for the pro-Hamas mix.
	So the initial idea for this video was to do, which will be coming out, but the initial premise was I'm going to ask them what they think of Kamala Harris, right?
	And you may or may not be surprised, but basically, not with that exception, Every single person said that she was a genocidaire, that she was abetting and supporting genocide, and that she was as bad as Hitler.
	So by the way, even though she's been kowtowing to the pro-Hamas, it has not helped her.
	They are not going to vote for Kamala.
	But okay, so the video was wrapping up.
	It was getting dark and I noticed that they were moving toward the police lines and things started to get pretty aggressive.
	And there was one leader who was chanting in front of them.
	And by the way, the chant he was chanting was, down with Kamala, burn down the DNC.
	So it was clear these guys are actually not aligned with democratic policy.
	And then I said to them, hmm, I think I may see an opportunity.
	So I walked up to the leader and I said, look, I'm a member of Hamas.
	He goes, you are?
	I said, yes.
	And I want to address the crowd.
	And he said, OK.
	And then he whispered to me as he handed him the mic, he knew he might be making a mistake.
	And he said to me, he whispered, don't F me on this.
	I said to myself, sorry, brother.
	That's exactly what I'm about to do.
	I didn't know exactly what to say, but what came out was this old There's an old Jewish chant about the Jewish nation and it's called, Am Yisrael Chai, My Nation Lives.
	I couldn't think of a more appropriate thing to say.
	So hang on, I need to just double down.
	So you walked into the pro-jihadi American haters, pretended to be one of them, took the microphone, and then did a pro-Israel chant on the microphone.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	Dude, you are epic.
	I didn't know what I was going to say.
	I didn't pre-plan it.
	It kind of happened on the moment, and it kind of flowed out of me.
	That's a god thing.
	Alright, what happened next, Armie Horowitz?
	So they were less than thrilled, and then he grabs the mic for me, this leader, grabs me by the lapel, two other guys came up to me, they all grabbed me, we scuffled for maybe 15-20 seconds until the cops realized what was going on, and the Chicago Police Department came in, grabbed me, and pulled me out.
	I will say this about the Chicago Police Department.
	Milwaukee and some other police departments during the riots, they were prepared for this, and they made sure these things did not get out of control, even though the pro-Hamasniks were trying to incite violence.
	No shock there.
	They were actually very, very good at trying to keep the temperature down.
	So my hat's off to the CPD.
	We're playing the footage right now.
	The fact that they had to have not only helmets on, but they had to have red visors inside the helmets to protect them from people using lasers to blind them tells you who you're dealing with.
	Army, we've only got a minute left.
	You've got to follow this guy.
	He's a guerrilla journalist.
	It's official.
	It says so on his Twitter bio.
	You've got to go to Army Horowitz right now and follow him.
	Is this just a bunch of, you know, just a handful of crazies?
	Is this significant?
	Is this a problem the Democrat Party and American Jews are going to have to deal with?
	Or is this just a handful of loud lunatics?
	Now, this is a growing part of the Democratic Party.
	It is here to stay.
	It's becoming more and more of a problem.
	Look, the Democratic Party is frankly... You want to see the future of the Democratic Party?
	Look at the Labour Party today in England.
	That is where the Democratic Party is headed to.
	They are becoming more radicalized.
	They're not a majority yet, let's be clear.
	But the majority of the Democratic Party is abetting this, allowing this, and you heard Joe Biden, the one cogent thing he actually said when he was up there at 3 o'clock in the morning, he said, these people, these animals, have a point.
	That is the direction the Democratic Party is going in, no question about it.
	He said it, he did say it, that they have a point.
	The pro-jihadi, anti-Americans have a point.
	That's the Democrat Party.
	Stay safe my friend!
	We salute the CPD who also looked after you last night.
	Follow this man at armyhorowitz right now.
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	Hey.
	Hey, that was superb.
	What other craziness have you got planned for tonight?
	No, I'm back in New York.
	That was enough excitement for me.
	I'm an old man now.
	Dude, you were jumping around like a jumping bean.
	You looked excited there.
	I'm pretty fit.
	I can tell.
	Are you going to have lots of cool videos to post?
	Yeah, I'm going to do that one video.
	I'm going to do the video on Kamala being a betting genocide.
	Love it.
	Alright.
	Send it to me.
	Text it to me as soon as you have it.
	I'll push it.
	All right, brother.
	Thanks.
	Love you.
	I will.
	Love you.
	All righty.
	All right.
	Got to do a Fuentes here.
	Yep.
	Where is the Tucker?
	How long is the Tucker count?
	It's 22 seconds.
	It's not on the cut sheet.
	22.
	All right.
	I might squeeze that in.
	Let's look at calls.
	It's good.
	It's good.
	Actually, come in with it.
	Come in with Tucker, and then I'll tee up the other one.
	Nice.
	All righty.
	Go with Tucker, and then you'll tee up two.
	And just need a title for Ami.
	And I'm probably going to want to post this segment as well.
	Oh, of course.
	Naturally.
	We should have to do that spot, too, after the show.
	Okay.
	What's a good title for that?
	The Democrats can't get rid of their jihadis.
	The Democrats can't get rid of their jihadis.
	you you
	You Can we just establish that anybody who screamed let's storm
	the Capitol I can think of two people who did Who was not arrested didn't spend time in jail?
	Was defended by Democrats in the Congress.
	Yes.
	But he wasn't alone.
	There's another prominent person who did that as well, as I know you know.
	Didn't get arrested, didn't go to jail.
	I mean, what can we conclude from that?
	Tucker, who are you talking about?
	Why did you use his name?
	It's so weird.
	Is somebody else, apart from Ray Epps, who incited violence on January the 6th and nothing happened to him?
	Say his name!
	Oh, you don't have to.
	We have the video.
	It's somebody, a diminutive little man, called Nick Fuentes.
	Here are the receipts.
	The only people in this country that back the blue, but the blue does not back us, so we're done backing them!
	If the police want to pepper spray and tear gas Trump supporters, then they can try their luck with Black Lives Matter and Antifa.
	I'm done supporting them!
	He's such a child.
	Bye, Capitol Police.
	the Capitol building.
	Say goodbye to the Capitol police.
	He's such a child by Capitol Police, Jeff. There's video of a
	little Nick Fuentes inciting violence on violence on January
	6. But but nobody arrested him like those praying Why would that be, Jeff?
	I know, and they could have said that he used his platform to incite it and everything.
	This was the guy that you think they'd go after.
	It's interesting.
	So what could be a possible explanation that the feds didn't go after Nick Fuentes?
	That he's working with them?
	Oh, that he's a fed!
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you sad little fed Nick Fuentes.
	We laugh at you because we know who you are.
	Pathetic inside job.
	You should be in prison.
	Let's go to John in San Diego.
	You've got a movie idea for us, John.
	Hey Sebastian, my movie is Tears of the Sun.
	Oh, that's a Monica Bellucci and Willis Bruce Willis, right?
	Yes.
	This movie shows you perfectly that the only thing toxic about masculinity is its absence in men and its presence in women.
	It shows that what good men are willing to do and risk to protect the weak.
	That is so true.
	I wrote that movie off when I saw the posters and I, you know Monica Bellucci absolutely beautiful but I thought this is just Bruce Willis you know paying the rent again and I caught it I caught it on cable or on a plane recently and it really is that is did you come up with that John that toxic masculine masculinity is only a problem when men don't have it and women do did you come up with that?
	Yeah I did.
	Bloody hell.
	That's absolutely superb.
	I'm going to quote you, John.
	But more importantly, I'm going to get you a signed copy of Katie's book.
	We have the best listeners.
	And the best guests!
	Next up, the truth about Project 2025.
	2025. Nicely done, John.
	Thanks for watching.
	you you
	you they may have a rather unconstitutional attitude to the
	first amendment but youtube is a place to find incredible talent analyses
	information that it's hard to find elsewhere and we are delighted whenever we
	discover somebody who's doing work no one else
	Has the skill set or the backbone to do.
	And I'm grateful to my son for introducing me to the Ryan Macbeth programming channel on YouTube, which has become the place to understand disinformation in whatever sphere it is.
	Firstly military, but now political.
	And we're delighted to have Ryan back in studio.
	Ryan Macbeth, welcome back.
	Yeah, thank you so much.
	You know, I just got back from Australia where I was at a conference and you know what I did there for the first time?
	I actually tried port wine.
	Wow!
	Did you like it?
	I enjoyed it and I wanted to give you some port wine that I tried.
	I don't know if it's good or bad.
	You know, I'm not a big wine guy, but port and dessert wines like Hungarian Tokaj, it's just pleasurable to drink, right?
	Absolutely, absolutely.
	I really enjoyed it.
	I hope you enjoy it too.
	So last time he's on the show, I only booked him with a proviso he's not allowed to bring any gifts.
	I forgot to do that this time.
	So I have some very well-traveled port.
	You are a gentleman and a scholar.
	All right, we'll put that in a place of honor right there.
	How did you enjoy the Antipodes?
	How was Australia?
	I really enjoyed it.
	I didn't feel unsafe once.
	Australia actually has more guns than I thought.
	Talking with a lot of emergency workers, they all seem to own guns.
	Which is understandable.
	Mainly for sport and hunting and stuff like that.
	But for pest control as well.
	And you know the other weird thing?
	I would say about a quarter of the people in Sydney were from China.
	Mainly Hong Kong.
	But visiting or living?
	Living.
	Wow.
	When China took over Hong Kong, a good portion of the population said, yeah, we'd prefer our freedom, and they went right over to Australia.
	And then you went there to talk about disinformation.
	I did.
	I spoke with the Ministry of Defense on DIP, Deceptive Imagery Persuasion, and something I call the Magic Disinformation Kill Chain, which is how our adversaries implement disinformation, how they fire it like a weapon system at America.
	We'll break this down later, but you are a military veteran and you have very trenchant views on how we should deal with the purveyors, the distributors of disinformation.
	We'll get to that.
	Hold that for a thought.
	But discuss first this fascinating acronym you gave us.
	MAGIC.
	What does MAGIC stand for?
	So it stands for make and a make, acquire, generate, implement and cascade.
	So this is this is the acronym to describe what the bad guys are doing with this information.
	Exactly.
	First of all, you need to say you need to make a target.
	And, you know, I know one of the reasons you called me in here was I debunked an infographic that was created was called an active measure, meaning a false campaign against Project 2025.
	We're going to break that down because that was an amazing video.
	And in a case like that, first you need to actually make the disinformation.
	All right, what is the end state?
	What is the goal that we're trying?
	What is the thing you're trying to convince people of which isn't true?
	And next you need to acquire the target.
	And in this case, acquiring the target was mainly people who were on the left wing who haven't read Very few people have read the 900 pages.
	I think I'm one of the few in America that actually has.
	Which is perfect for the disinformation provider, because if you're not going to read the 900 pages, my little summary tweet is going to potentially go viral with those who haven't read it.
	That's absolutely correct.
	Next you need to generate it.
	All right, so we're going to come up with some specific keywords, and some specific keywords are words like dangerous.
	It's very easy to understand.
	Dangerous, unconstitutional, or like trigger words, buzzwords.
	Buzzwords that can get people to go, oh my god, or a keyword like Trump, that tends to always trend.
	Trump, dangerous.
	Trump, unconstitutional.
	Threat to democracy, all of that stuff.
	You start to use those keywords, and then you actually implement it.
	So you need either a useful idiot or a sophist.
	A person who genuinely believes in the cause.
	In this case, it was a Democratic operative named Christopher Hahn.
	That person released this fake infographic no different than a weapons system.
	And finally, you cascade the implication.
	And that's where you get people who are on your side to amplify that by retweeting it.
	And usually they also add their own spin onto the document after they do that.
	All right.
	So that is the new acronym from our friend expert on disinformation magic.
	Make, acquire, generate, and then implement and cascade.
	I like that a lot.
	Well, you can tell he's a military man.
	He likes acronyms.
	Before we go into what you found with regards to this DIF's information on the Heritage Foundation's 2025 project, I want to get a little bit strategic for a moment because you mentioned this phrase active measures.
	Now I know that phrase very well because I studied something called the Active Measures
	Working Group that was created in the 80s under the Reagan administration with a fascinating
	cross-pollinated group of individuals who were intelligence community, congressional
	staffers, White House, State Department.
	And their job, which was such a different way of dealing with propaganda, if you will,
	is they shone the light on Soviet disinformation or what the Soviets call active measures,
	such as AIDS was created in Fort Dittrick by the Americans in the lab and on and on
	and on.
	I would say, and I think the success of your YouTube channel points in that direction, is that we've kind of forgotten about disinformation, how powerful it is, what to do about it.
	Is that perhaps the reason for your success on this?
	Because I don't see a lot of people doing what you're doing.
	Let me put it like that.
	Yeah, I think part of it is that people are looking for a non-partisan guy to kind of explain things to them, right?
	That's part of it.
	When you're in the intelligence community, you can't really pick a political side because then the other side is not going to trust what you're saying.
	Now, that being said, I also think that maybe people have been subject to disinformation for so long that they view it as news.
	They don't even understand what they're looking at necessarily.
	So someone might say something like, a good one, Ukraine is corrupt.
	Volodymyr Zelensky's wife bought a $4.5 million car.
	Right.
	This thing that goes around.
	She bought a Bugatti for millions.
	Bought a Bugatti for 4.5 million dollars.
	And then they construct a fake receipt.
	And it was Bugatti who said, our receipts don't look like that.
	Number one.
	Number two, in France, where this person supposedly bought it, the decimal is actually a comma.
	And then something about the description of the color of the paint was in the wrong language.
	So even the receipt wasn't well faked.
	Yeah.
	And usually Russia does better than that.
	A good example, Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
	And the Jews have suffered under this document that imply that the Jews control the world.
	And this was essentially a document that was faked by Russia under the Tsar.
	By the secret police of the Tsar.
	As a political weapon.
	As a political weapon.
	Absolutely.
	So where do you think, so this is fascinating because I hear this all the time from conservatives and not from, you know, independents or what have you that, oh you can't trust anything the media tells you.
	Have we gotten to a level of like uber cynicism?
	I think so.
	I think so.
	I think that you can trust what the media says to you if they show their sources.
	If most of the media is saying a similar thing, and they're showing the sources of where this information came from, then you might be able to trust things.
	At some point, I think alternative media was trusted more than conventional media, just because there was this assumption that they couldn't be bought.
	All right.
	Then I take a look at something like breaking points, which I debunked.
	You know, a couple of days ago, they said that American F-16s were being used during Ukraine's incursion into Russia.
	And I wish, like that would be great if we were doing that.
	But Ukraine is still cutting holes in the sky and Odessa trying to figure out how to use these things.
	When I saw that, I actually watched that video as well.
	I try and watch everything that pops up on my feed from you.
	When I thought, Sagar and JD, what the heck are you doing?
	I mean, I know you haven't served before, but just do a little bit of a fact check before you spout stuff like that.
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	All right, so let's talk about this latest video that I thought, why has nobody done this?
	Can we not just have a journalist or journalists, because I know this is a lot of work, debunk some of the insanity that is being told about the 2025, Project 2025 of the Heritage Foundation?
	Full disclosure.
	My muse, Katie, my wife, was a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation after she left DHS, Department of Homeland Security.
	I was an advisor to the former president of the Heritage Foundation.
	I'm proud to be that because it's a conservative think tank that specializes in policy.
	And every four years, they write something called Mandate for Leadership, which is a kind of laundry list of things conservatives would like the next president to do.
	It's like a smorgasbord.
	This year, they changed the name to Project 2025.
	And let's put up the first image.
	This image, Ryan, with the blood dripping off the Project 2025 banner, I think that tells us everything you want to know.
	And then this concerted disinformation campaign, let's go full screen on this, with this list of, you know, a couple of dozen things that are allegedly in Project 2025, like Cut social security, ban contraceptives!
	End of no-fault divorce.
	Yeah, classic disinformation.
	So walk us through what you did.
	Everybody needs to watch the 20-minute video.
	But why?
	Because I presume some people are a little annoyed that Ryan Macbeth debunked at least half of this infographic.
	Yeah, you know what is kind of funny is that I'll go after disinformation that's being put out by conservatives on the right and people on the left.
	You just did a big thing on who's behind the end-wokeness Twitter account, right?
	I did.
	Who was Jack Posobiec, right?
	It was Jack Posobiec.
	So this isn't just about a left wing or a right wing.
	Yeah, and you know one interesting thing is that a couple of days ago Jack Posobiec was doing a live stream from the DNC and Endwokeness didn't tweet once.
	That's interesting.
	Maybe he was a little busy.
	He was probably a little busy.
	Tell us about why you decided to do this.
	Well, this particular document was viewed over 5.3 million times.
	Just that infographic?
	Just that infographic.
	And this was put out by a Democratic operative named Chris Hahn, who obviously didn't read Project 2025.
	And it's 900 pages, so I kind of get it.
	But this person didn't read it, or maybe they did read it, and they're putting out this misinformation anyway.
	Or there's this feeling that it's okay to lie, as long as it benefits our side.
	The ends justify the means.
	Correct.
	And so in this particular document, you know, one of the first things I noticed was the things that ban no-fault divorce.
	And, yeah, I think I did a search of the document.
	There was only one term.
	Divorce only popped up once.
	In 900 pages.
	In 900 pages.
	And then I read the whole thing.
	I kind of paid special attention to the military portion because there were some ideas in that which were pretty good, although other people have been saying them as well, like we need a 355-ship Navy.
	Probably not a bad idea.
	We need to add 50,000 more men to the U.S.
	Army.
	Probably not a bad idea.
	Maybe have an armored division in Europe.
	In two armored divisions back in the US, probably not a bad idea.
	But there was a lot of misinformation in that infographic, and it didn't actually equate to anything in the actual document.
	Now, there are some things in Project 2025 which could hurt some people if you're in the alternative lifestyle space.
	I know one of the things they want to do is if you're serving as a transgender, you get kicked out.
	Right.
	Which is kind of the same thing that happened to people who refused to take vaccines.
	So in both of those cases, we're kicking out people who want to be there, right?
	And to me, there shouldn't be any barrier to service.
	If you want to serve... Well, as long as you're combat effective.
	As long as you're combat effective, correct.
	So, that tweet from Christopher Hahn just kind of rubbed me wrong.
	And I said, I'm going to dig into this.
	So you read all 900 pages.
	I read all of it.
	And if we go back to the graphic, John, of the original infographic, what you did in your video is you went one by one.
	To see whether it was false, whether it was true, or whether it was like half-substantiated.
	And I've got the final, the truth score here.
	You need to watch the whole video, because it's great.
	I mean, 900 pages analyzed in 20 minutes.
	How many accusations?
	Maybe two dozen, three dozen?
	I think there were 28 or 29 accusations.
	So here we have, oh yeah, correct, correct, 29.
	Of the 29, this is the final table, I did a screenshot from Ryan's video, of the 29 accusations, summary accusations of Project 2025, A grand total of 5 were true.
	5 out of 29.
	Then, partially true, 10.
	Outright lies, just like, no, no, enter, no fault, divorce, ban contraception.
	14 out of 29 were just outright lies.
	Now, you did the work that journalists weren't prepared to do.
	I've got to ask you, and this is subjective, But it seems to work, because they're still talking.
	I mean, the left-wing media and the Democrats, you saw it, the DNC, First Night, they're talking about Project 2025 as this unconstitutional threat to democracy.
	So, disinformation is a real problem.
	It is a real problem.
	And, like I said, there were some things in that document that were true.
	One of those was to defund, the one claim was to defund the FBI.
	And that wasn't entirely true.
	They want to get back to badges.
	A good portion of the FBI doesn't have, they're not law enforcement, they're just ancillary personnel.
	And let's get the FBI back to badges.
	And I believe you've espoused that view before.
	Let's get them back to an actual law enforcement role.
	So there were true items in there.
	But taking this and essentially scaring people with this document, when anybody who
	knows former President Trump understands that he isn't bought by anyone, whether it's corporations,
	whether it's foreign governments, or whether it's the Heritage Foundation.
	They're giving him 900 pages to say, do this.
	You might say, well, I like the judge's part, but everything else, you know, I'm going to do what... He is going to do what he feels he needs to do to run the country.
	Bingo.
	Right.
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	Now we don't rehearse any of our interviews even when President Trump comes on or senators you name it we don't clear the questions with anybody so I haven't prepped any of this with Ryan so maybe you'll have an answer maybe you won't but I just see a real paucity in The US government's ability to deal with disinformation.
	For example, we don't have an active, we don't have an inter-agency active measures working group like we did during the Cold War under Reagan.
	If you had your druthers, if you had, you know, how would we deal with this beyond excellent YouTube channels?
	Who would deal with this?
	Where would we do it?
	Is it an intelligence community thing?
	Because the Active Measures Working Group was fascinating because it was open source.
	It was unclassified.
	They take the story of America made AIDS and they break it down and they had a press conference on how A Soviet diplomat, who was an intelligence officer, planted the story with an African diplomat, and then that led to a story being published in an Indian newspaper that was a front for the KGB, and they showed the world, this is why it's a lie.
	Who should be doing this?
	Should it be high-side classified, low-side unclassified?
	What would be the perfect anti-disinformation system?
	That is an excellent question, and one of the things you have to weigh is you have to weigh Americans' right to freedom of speech with the right to, well, with the kind of thing that I want to do, which I've, just two weeks ago I was in Ohio speaking to some Judge Advocate Generals, or Judges Advocate General.
	Correct.
	Yes.
	Explaining to them what I think we need to do, and one of the things we need to do is we need to start killing people.
	And I use that language very specifically, that we are going to kill people.
	People who are consciously working to spread lies that are a threat to national security on behalf of Russia, China, North Korea.
	Now these have to be foreigners, they can't be Americans, of course.
	And one of the ways I rationalize this is that disinformation is a weapon system.
	That you can use a bomb to destroy a bridge, or you can use disinformation to tell a bunch of weak-minded college students, go shut down the bridge for Palestine.
	The end result is the same.
	You can't use the bridge.
	So... But your targeting isn't the sheep unthinking, you know, college students.
	Correct.
	It's the Iranian whatever propagator who generated the meme sitting in Tehran.
	It could be that person, it could be the server farm, it could be the building where they work.
	And the rationale here is that if you go to work at a munitions factory where you're making artillery shells, is that munitions factory a valid target?
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	So if you're working at a disinformation factory, is that a valid target?
	Absolutely.
	So what kind of response did you get from the judge's advocate general?
	So they're looking into it.
	They're looking into how to develop a legal framework to maybe do this.
	We might only be able to do this during time of war.
	Now the idea of a commission that takes a look at things and decides this is truth, this is not truth, that's a little scary for America.
	Right, but if they're not making that determination, if they're not the people saying that's false, that's true, but simply like the Active Measures Working Group holding press conferences where they, you know, connect the dots and let the viewer draw the conclusions, maybe something like that.
	Something like that could certainly work.
	I'll host it.
	You heard it here first.
	Look, Elon said he's going to work for President Trump.
	Ryan will host the Intergovernmental Counter Disinformation Working Group.
	So you're ready, right?
	Absolutely.
	I'm ready for the next administration.
	Alright, we are ready.
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	This is America First one-on-one with me, Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to the 45th, and God willing, if we do our part, the 47th President of the United States.
	Coming to you from just outside the insalubrious, fetid, rank, malodorous, noisome swamp that is Washington, D.C.
	I think I've asked you this once before, but I want, because everybody wants to be a content provider, everybody wants to be an influencer, I want you to give a little bit of a cold shower to those who think Oh, it's easy to do what Ryan Macbeth does.
	How many followers do you have now?
	Uh, nine hundred and fifty some thousand.
	Oh, you're close.
	Close to a million.
	And when did you start?
	Well, I started at zero, right?
	No, no, when?
	When?
	I started, uh, God, I guess about four or five years ago.
	And then when did you start doing the disinformation stuff?
	Because that's newer.
	Yeah, that was, I guess, about two years ago after the war started in Ukraine.
	So you've got close to a million in two years of doing the disinformation stuff.
	Walk us through how much work it is, because this is you.
	You don't have a massive production team.
	Sometimes you're doing it from, you know, your bed in a hotel room, filming it.
	Walk us through an average video.
	How much research, editing and everything you do?
	You know, I work between 13 and 16 hours a day.
	Average video is 20 minutes long, and the way I edit my videos, one minute of footage takes about an hour to edit.
	Wow.
	So a 20-minute video is 20 hours of work.
	20 hours of work.
	So it would be three days of work if I spread that out over several days doing an eight-hour day.
	And a lot of it, what I'm not counting, is the research.
	There's a lot of research I have to do to see whether something's true or not true.
	And when I actually make the video, if I'm doing a video about Air Force C-130 aircraft, C-130Js, I need to find pictures that are open source.
	And I need to make sure it's the J model.
	Because if it's a different model, people are going to go, hey, that's not the right model.
	Oh, yeah, that's right.
	So, a lot of it is an amazing amount of work.
	And it doesn't stop.
	Even when I'm in a hotel room, I travel a lot to go on podcasts.
	You're doing a lot of little shorts as you're walking through the airport.
	I am.
	Constantly.
	Because I have to use my time.
	Once in a while I have people ask me, oh Ryan, do you play video games?
	Do you want to be in our clan?
	Clan?
	It's a video game!
	I'll take time to go to a baseball game with my dad or something, and when NBA starts, I'll probably watch some Washington Wizards.
	You'll have some cigars now and again.
	I'll have some cigars now and again, yeah, watching the Wizards in my little studio.
	But it is an enormous amount of work.
	Given that you've exploded to almost a million, triggered or catalyzed in part by what you were seeing with regards to the war in Ukraine, are you shocked?
	Look, I'm not surprised that the Russians do what they do, whether it's bombing hospitals or, you know, lying about the bioweapons labs in Ukraine.
	That's just, that's what Russians do.
	That's what KGB colonels do, like Vladimir Putin.
	I'm disturbed by how many people who are Americans, either wittingly or unwittingly, feed this garbage, Ryan.
	That's true, and I think a lot of it might be because it feels good to be a contrarian.
	You might feel like, oh, well, I know the real truth, right?
	I mean, for a lot of people, they work all day, and they come home, they eat some dinner, and it feels good to think that, like, well, I know the real thing.
	It makes you feel like there's a secret world out there, like Harry Potter.
	I have the secret knowledge.
	I have the secret knowledge.
	Just like Harry Potter had the secret knowledge, now you have that secret knowledge too.
	And there are some people who genuinely support Russia.
	And that's kind of strange, but this is America, right?
	You can have all sorts of viewpoints, right?
	You just can't do any kind of material support, like what was her name?
	Dunbas Deveshina, who was this woman who was an internet addict who was funneling some money toward Russia but keeping a lot of it for herself as well.
	You kind of have to be careful of some of the scam artists.
	But it is kind of surprising.
	I think that, you know, if these people actually talk to people who fled Russia, like, what's this guy's name?
	Konstantin... Kissin!
	Yeah, from Trigonometry.
	Yeah, if that guy, if they actually talked with some of these guys, they would realize Russia is not a good place.
	And there are, right now fighting in Ukraine, there are two units, two battalions of Russians who are fighting for the Ukrainians.
	And these aren't people who were captured prisoners at the point of a gun.
	Some were captured and volunteered.
	Volunteers.
	They're not press ganged.
	These are Russians who want to fight for Ukraine.
	Absolutely.
	They want to fight for Ukraine.
	You know, right now Ukraine, they've had this incredible operation.
	When this is over, or after this, I'll show you the map, and I think I know what they're actually trying to do.
	If you throw up the map of the incursion, I'll show you what their plan might be.
	But one of the things that Ukraine did is they used Russians during these initial little raids.
	And now Ukraine went in with either two or four brigades.
	So we're talking a total of maybe 8,000, 10,000 people on the ground in the province of Kursk.
	And what I actually think they're doing is they're trying to get to a river.
	And they destroyed three bridges across this one river, the Seine, I believe.
	And now these Russian units are trapped behind that.
	So I think that might have been their goal, to actually cut off this river.
	This is why you've got to follow him.
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	This is a really exciting thing.
	So let's put up the images from the website.
	This is Aeromedlab, and it has to do with drones, which have clearly changed the way of warfare in Ukraine.
	But this isn't about targeting people with drones or using them for surveillance of the battlefield.
	What is Aeromedlab about?
	So Aramid Lab uses autonomous drones to deliver whole blood to wounded soldiers on the battlefield.
	Wow.
	And the whole idea is that in the next war, we're not going to be able to use medevac.
	The days of going out of patrol, coming back to your FOB, going and eating at the KBR chow hall and working out, those are over.
	We are constantly going to be targeted.
	whether you're a medical unit or not.
	And so what these drones can do is they deliver whole blood to a wounded soldier and they
	drop that blood off.
	They can actually pitch the blood in through a window, through a slit of a bunker, into
	a trench.
	Lay out a VF-17 panel, which is like an orange marker panel many soldiers carry.
	Lay out one of those panels, it knows where to drop that blood.
	And the fascinating thing here, especially because of denial of communications, is these
	things are autonomous.
	Autonomous.
	They will find the downed soldier.
	So they will find the medic that laid out the panel, or a combat lifesaver, yeah.
	So the whole idea here is that it used to be we can get a helicopter in, bring that guy out, we can't do that now.
	We need to get whole blood into these people until they can be Kazevac'd by a round ambulance, right?
	What's happening in Ukraine right now, people are dying right now because they can't get medevaced.
	And you are on the cusp of actually having your trials with pig's blood, right?
	Yeah, with pig's blood.
	Pig's blood is a lot cheaper than human blood, which costs about $300 per unit.
	Wow.
	But yes, we are near Cannon Air Force Base in New Mexico.
	We're headed out there on the 5th.
	And we are going to drop blood, about 300 units of blood, all over New Mexico into bunkers, into trenches.
	And first we have to measure the blood to make sure the cell walls are intact.
	And then we're going to drop the blood and we're going to test it again to make sure the cell walls survived the actual fall.
	And what's kind of neat is the whole thing is autonomous in the sense that you tell it where it needs to go.
	It doesn't use GPS.
	It doesn't use radio.
	That's incredible.
	So when this thing figures out where it needs to go by itself, flies very low to the ground, 1 to 3 meters below the ground, so it's hugging the terrain, so it's going to be very hard to engage with anti-drone weapons.
	It gets where it needs to go, drops the blood, and comes right back.
	How many years did you have in the Army? 20.
	20 years, heavy weapons, and then cyber stuff.
	I guess that wasn't enough service to the nation.
	Now in very natty suits, he's giving us the truth about disinformation on his YouTube channel.
	And, God willing, if everything goes well with that test, saving our troops and our allies and partners with the use of the AeroMedLab technology.
	We salute you, Ryan Macbeth, aeromedlab.com, at Ryan Macbeth Programming on YouTube.
	You've been listening to a very special one-on-one with me, Sebastian Gorka.

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